--- Log opened Sat Apr 11 00:00:01 2009 00:39 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 00:46 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 01:10 < HellDragon> hi 01:21 -!- TroN-0074 [n=chavez@adsl-76-252-74-89.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:21 < TroN-0074> anyone at home? 01:21 < TroN-0074> hello 01:23 < TroN-0074> has anyone have a good experience doing linux in iPod? 02:18 -!- Xyberai [n=xyberai@adsl-226-132-91.int.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:21 -!- Xyberai [n=xyberai@adsl-226-132-91.int.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:25 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:25 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost] has joined #ipodlinux 02:33 < TroN-0074> need help installing linux in iPod 02:41 -!- linuxlover [n=linuxlov@24-113-154-54.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 -!- linuxlover [n=linuxlov@24-113-154-54.wavecable.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:41 < BHSPitLappy> Wilduck, hmm? Why is m4a useless? 03:43 < BHSPitLappy> Your iPod can play it, your computer can play it, so what's the issue? 03:43 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, if you need help, why haven't you asked a question 03:44 < TroN-0074> I thought everyone was gone 03:44 < TroN-0074> thanks anyway 03:44 < BHSPitLappy> it does more good to state the problem you're having than to just ask if anyone has "good experience" 04:10 < TroN-0074> I need to install linux in my ipod do you have any suggestion? 04:13 < BHSPitLappy> yeah, follow the good instructions people worked hard to create on the site 04:15 < TroN-0074> it is quite hard to follow though 04:15 < TroN-0074> can you help me in the part that you figure out the partitions please? 04:16 < TroN-0074> see I ran this command # fdisk /dev/sdX 04:17 < BHSPitLappy> what kind of ipod 04:17 < TroN-0074> I have a 5 generation 04:18 < TroN-0074> photo and videos 04:18 < BHSPitLappy> what OS? 04:18 < TroN-0074> I was running iTunes in windows 95 04:18 < BHSPitLappy> (If you had read the channel topic when you entered, I wouldn't be asking these questions) 04:18 < BHSPitLappy> okay, now I know you're kidding 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> bye 04:19 < TroN-0074> what are you talking about man? 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> there's no way you're using Windows 95. 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> Win95 doesn't even have USB support. 04:20 < TroN-0074> so I guess it was a newest windows then 04:20 < TroN-0074> the xp stuff 04:21 < TroN-0074> I said 95 because that is what came out after I did the ./ipodpatcher --scan 04:21 < TroN-0074> and I do really need help 04:22 < BHSPitLappy> Before going any further, are you sure you even want linux on your iPod? It doesn't sound like you're familiar with Linux at all. 04:23 < TroN-0074> well I dont have windows in my computer anymore 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> If you're just trying to get some games and better music support, you might just want to get Rockbox instead. 04:23 < TroN-0074> no much into games neither 04:24 < BHSPitLappy> What operating system are you using on your computer, then 04:24 < BHSPitLappy> Ubuntu? 04:24 < TroN-0074> I am still unfamiliar with linux because I just did the switch couple of weeks ago 04:24 < TroN-0074> yes I have ubuntu 04:24 < BHSPitLappy> Are you just trying to get iPodLinux so you can transfer songs? 04:26 < TroN-0074> yes 04:26 < TroN-0074> I use my ipod with my home computer and I dont have windows anymore 04:27 < BHSPitLappy> Rhythmbox/Banshee/Gtkpod/Amarok should all support your 5G... 04:27 < TroN-0074> I try Rhythmbox and Gtkpod and they didnt work 04:27 < TroN-0074> tried* 04:28 < TroN-0074> it will be a good learning experience if I can install a different OS in my ipod I though 04:28 < TroN-0074> if you dont want to help it is o,k. 04:31 < BHSPitLappy> well, your iPod SHOULD be supported by those libgpod-based applications. Anyway. 04:31 < TroN-0074> thanks man 04:31 < BHSPitLappy> if you're on Ubuntu, you need to find out the device name of your iPod 04:32 < BHSPitLappy> which will be /dev/sd + some letter 04:32 < TroN-0074> yeah it is sdd 04:32 < BHSPitLappy> then run: sudo fdisk /dev/sdd 04:32 < TroN-0074> I did that 04:33 < BHSPitLappy> then you probably want to type "p" so it shows you your partitions 04:33 < TroN-0074> bash: p: command not found 04:33 < TroN-0074> that is what I got 04:33 < BHSPitLappy> erm 04:33 < BHSPitLappy> then obviously fdisk didn't work :P 04:34 < BHSPitLappy> p is a command once you're IN fdisk 04:34 < TroN-0074> let me try it again 04:35 < TroN-0074> I got this 04:35 < TroN-0074> usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v 04:35 < TroN-0074> usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value] 04:35 < TroN-0074> {-i | -s | } 04:35 < TroN-0074> usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file .. 04:36 < TroN-0074> then I tried p again 04:36 < TroN-0074> bash: p: command not found 04:36 < BHSPitLappy> the first messages are letting you know you used the "sudo" command incorrectly 04:37 < BHSPitLappy> so fdisk never even got opened. 04:37 < BHSPitLappy> your exact command should have looked like "sudo fdisk /dev/sdd", without the quotes 04:38 < TroN-0074> thanks it did work 04:39 < TroN-0074> this is what the wiki guide shows 04:39 < TroN-0074> Command (m for help): p 04:39 < TroN-0074> Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 19073 cylinders 04:39 < TroN-0074> Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes 04:39 < TroN-0074> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 04:39 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdX1 * 1 33 [#] 22544 0 Empty 04:39 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdX2 * 34 19073 19496960 b Win95 FAT32 04:40 < TroN-0074> this is what I got 04:40 < TroN-0074> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 04:40 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdd1 1 11 80293+ 0 Empty 04:40 < TroN-0074> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. 04:40 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdd2 11 3707 29222234+ b W95 FAT32 04:40 < TroN-0074> Command (m for help): 04:40 < TroN-0074> as you see on the guide after 33 it should be a [#] 04:40 < TroN-0074> on my stuff there is nothing 04:41 < BHSPitLappy> please use an online pastebin to show large sections of output like that 04:42 < BHSPitLappy> anything more than about 3 lines is too much for IRC 04:42 < TroN-0074> sorry 04:43 < TroN-0074> my question is how do I figure out the linux partition size 04:43 < BHSPitLappy> and there isn't really supposed to be a [#] there, that's part of the tutorial 04:44 < BHSPitLappy> your linux partition doesn't need to be very big. 64MB is plenty, though you can always go larger 04:45 < BHSPitLappy> by the way, have you backed up anything that's on the iPod? (are you prepared to wipe out everything?) 04:45 < TroN-0074> yeah I did the back up step from the guide 04:48 < TroN-0074> when typing the Last cylinder do you just type 64? 04:48 < TroN-0074> or something like 64000 04:48 < TroN-0074> I mean you said 64mb is good enough 05:33 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:33 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 05:35 -!- danielsan [n=kvirc@p5B2FD5D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:39 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, the Units part of your partition table tells you how many bytes each of those units are 05:40 < TroN-0074> thanks 05:41 < BHSPitLappy> the example partition table has approximately 1MB per unit, yours shows something different (but you didn't reveal it here) 05:47 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng396.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 05:48 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng396.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:50 -!- Xyberai [n=xyberai@74.167.146.111] has joined #ipodlinux 05:51 < TroN-0074> do you know how can I install the loader2 application using ipodpatcher? 05:51 < TroN-0074> I got confuse 05:51 < BHSPitLappy> I think so 05:52 < TroN-0074> I should be able to do it just by typing a terminal like ./ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin 05:53 < TroN-0074> I believe this is the name of the file Ipodloader2-2.6 05:54 < TroN-0074> do I need to re name it? 05:54 < BHSPitLappy> that, or change your ./ipodpatcher command accordingly 05:55 < TroN-0074> this is what I got 05:55 < TroN-0074> [INFO] Scanning disk devices... 05:55 < TroN-0074> [ERR] Firmware partition doesn't contain Apple copyright, aborting. 05:55 < TroN-0074> [ERR] No ipods found, aborting 05:55 < TroN-0074> [ERR] Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode 05:55 < TroN-0074> [ERR] Please refer to the Rockbox manual if you continue to have problems. 05:56 < TroN-0074> ipod is connected though 05:56 < scorche> which ipod? 05:57 < TroN-0074> the one I am trying to reformat 05:57 < scorche> yes..which ipod? 05:57 < TroN-0074> mine ipod I guess 05:58 < scorche> ....version 05:58 < TroN-0074> is a 5 generation 05:58 < scorche> are you sure? 05:58 < TroN-0074> yes 05:59 < scorche> oh...did you already format it? 06:00 < TroN-0074> yeah I am trying to install the loader2 so it can work dualboot 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, what does your partition table look like now 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> fdisk, p, pastebin 06:00 < TroN-0074> I'll show you 06:01 < TroN-0074> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 06:01 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdd1 * 1 9 71114 0 Empty 06:01 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdd2 11 3707 29222234+ b W95 FAT32 06:01 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdd3 10 10 7905 83 Linux 06:01 < scorche> TroN-0074: you are going to want to follow this page... 06:01 < scorche> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> err, why did you screw with sdd1? 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> that was your apple firmware. 06:01 < TroN-0074> yeah but that is what the guide said 06:01 < scorche> emphasis on "was" ;) 06:02 < TroN-0074> see the table in the example looks that way too 06:02 < TroN-0074> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 06:02 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdX1 * 1 14 112423+ 0 Empty 06:02 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdX2 * 15 7000 56115045 b W95 FAT32 06:02 < TroN-0074> /dev/sdX3 7001 7296 2377620 83 Linux 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, you broke it 06:02 < TroN-0074> that is the example 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> go ahead and pastebin the contents of the terminal session you've been working in 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> from when I was helping you with fdisk initially until now 06:04 < BHSPitLappy> (do not paste it directly in here) 06:04 * scorche doubts he understands "pastebin" 06:04 < BHSPitLappy> pastebin.com, etc. 06:08 < TroN-0074> I just did 06:09 -!- Xyberai [n=xyberai@74.167.146.111] has quit [] 06:09 -!- rvvs89 [n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:15 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, you DO have to actually paste the LINK to your pastebin entry, though... 06:15 < BHSPitLappy> :) 06:15 < TroN-0074> http://pastebin.com/d5de236c6 06:15 < TroN-0074> sorry about that 06:16 < scorche> [23:01:05] TroN-0074: you are going to want to follow this page... 06:16 < scorche> [23:01:06] http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore 06:16 < BHSPitLappy> wow, pretty much every possible aspect went wrong there. 06:17 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, listen to scorche, you need to restore at this point 06:17 < TroN-0074> why? 06:17 < BHSPitLappy> scorche, actually, it appears none of his mkfs attempts were successful, either 06:17 < TroN-0074> thanks scorche 06:17 < BHSPitLappy> he could get away with reconstructing his initial partition table 06:18 < TroN-0074> it is that posible? 06:18 < BHSPitLappy> get back into fdisk, and make the partitions again 06:19 < TroN-0074> yes mkfs didnt work I tried each suggestion from the guide 06:19 < BHSPitLappy> this time making partition 1 go from 1-11 (like it originally did) 06:19 < TroN-0074> o.k 06:20 < BHSPitLappy> then make #2 go from 12-3680 06:21 < BHSPitLappy> and then make #3 go from 3681 to 3707 06:21 < BHSPitLappy> savvy? 06:21 -!- Minthe [n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 06:21 < BHSPitLappy> pretty much everything you did the first time was wrong 06:21 < TroN-0074> I wanted to umount /dev/sdd first 06:22 < TroN-0074> doesnt work 06:22 < TroN-0074> itsays ipod is busy 06:22 < BHSPitLappy> there's probably an ipod icon on your desktop 06:22 < BHSPitLappy> right-click it and select unmount volume 06:22 < BHSPitLappy> and yes, you DO need to unmount any mounted iPod partitions before doing this sort of work 06:23 < BHSPitLappy> that's one of the reasons your mkfs attempts failed 06:23 < TroN-0074> it says it cant be unmounted because an application is working with it 06:23 < BHSPitLappy> well, do you have fdisk going? 06:23 < TroN-0074> in a second 06:23 < BHSPitLappy> (don't) 06:24 < BHSPitLappy> close out anything that might be using the ipod 06:30 < TroN-0074> nothing is open that might keep ipod being used 06:34 < TroN-0074> I tried 10 and it said value out of range 06:36 < BHSPitLappy> what? 06:36 < Minthe> Cannot unmount? Umm, I usually umount /dev/sda2, not /dev/sda 06:36 < BHSPitLappy> Minthe, sda is probably your computer's hard drive. 06:36 < Minthe> in your case sdd2 06:36 < BHSPitLappy> and you usually pass umount the mountpoint 06:36 < BHSPitLappy> e.g. "sudo umount /media/ipod/" 06:36 < Minthe> #my root is /dev/hda 06:37 < BHSPitLappy> I guess you can use either syntax 06:44 < TroN-0074> everything is gone now 06:45 < BHSPitLappy> ? 06:49 < TroN-0074> Partition number (1-4): 1 06:49 < TroN-0074> First cylinder (1-3706, default 1): 1 06:49 < TroN-0074> Last cylinder, +cylinders or +size{K,M,G} (1-9, default 9): 06:49 < TroN-0074> I wish to change that to 1-11 06:49 < TroN-0074> is that possible? 06:50 < TroN-0074> just like you said here -->BHSPitLappy> this time making partition 1 go from 1-11 (like it originally did) 06:53 < BHSPitLappy> TroN-0074, delete all 3 partitions first 06:53 < BHSPitLappy> then recreate them 06:53 < TroN-0074> how can I delete them? 06:53 < BHSPitLappy> it's not letting you go past 9 because you have a partition sitting at 10 06:54 < BHSPitLappy> d 06:54 < BHSPitLappy> you can type "m" for help while using fdisk 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> "d" to delete a partition, "n" to make a new one, "t" to change one's type, "w" to write your new table to the disk 06:55 < TroN-0074> so to delete these 3 I already have how can I do that? 06:56 < BHSPitLappy> for the third time now, "d" 06:56 < BHSPitLappy> if it's still asking you for a Last Cylinder, hit enter 06:57 < BHSPitLappy> then type d and hit ENTER, and it will ask you which one you want to delete 06:57 < BHSPitLappy> do this for 1, and 2, and 3 06:57 < TroN-0074> done 06:57 < TroN-0074> now to create them again? 06:57 < BHSPitLappy> now you can make new partitions... n 06:58 < BHSPitLappy> make partition #1 going from cylinder 1 to cylinder 11, etc. 06:58 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 06:59 < TroN-0074> step 6 on the guide suggest to set partition as empty command "t" 07:01 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:01 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> yes, you'll have to do that. 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> you'll create all three partitions, and set their types. 07:02 < BHSPitLappy> using the cylinder boundaries I gave you earlier, and using 0, b, and 83 for the types (in that order) 07:05 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4EA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:08 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:20 -!- TroN-0074 [n=chavez@adsl-76-252-74-89.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:24 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 07:37 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 07:49 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 08:40 -!- rvvs89 [n=ivo@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:51 -!- rvvs89 [n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:23 -!- BOFH [n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:23 -!- rvvs89 [n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 -!- Minthe [n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 10:43 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 11:29 -!- Guest474 [n=Guest474@p4FCA8E88.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:30 -!- Guest474 [n=Guest474@p4FCA8E88.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 11:34 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4EA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:14 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:14 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 12:14 -!- danielsan [n=kvirc@p5B2FD5D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:15 -!- danisahne [n=kvirc@p5B2FD5D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4EA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:09 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4EA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:23 -!- _danielsan_ [n=kvirc@p5B2FEFAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:24 -!- danisahne [n=kvirc@p5B2FD5D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:40 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4EA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:49 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:49 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:52 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #iPodLinux 16:31 -!- hans [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:34 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:47 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:54 -!- ninfomane [n=ninfoman@137.248.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 < ninfomane> Hi all 16:55 < ninfomane> I experience difficulties to install iPodLinux on my 5th generation iPod. 16:55 < ninfomane> I format all partition to only install iPodLinux on it. But ipodpatcher doesn't find the device. 16:56 < ninfomane> Is there a way to tell ipodpatcher which device file use to ? 17:05 < ninfomane> I get these output : 17:05 < ninfomane> [INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/sdb 17:05 < ninfomane> [INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes 17:05 < ninfomane> [ERR] Partition layout is not an ipod 17:09 -!- hans [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 17:22 < ninfomane> no one ?! oO 17:53 -!- ninfomane [n=ninfoman@137.248.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:49 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:49 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:42 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 20:44 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 20:46 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:49 -!- _danielsan_ [n=kvirc@p5B2FEFAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/"] 21:11 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:12 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:18 -!- froggyman108 [n=froggyma@pool-71-186-64-226.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 < froggyman108> is this project coming close to an end, or is it starting to come back? 21:21 < froggyman108> anyone? 21:22 < BHSPitLappy> huh 21:23 < froggyman108> I mean is iPod Linux still in active devolpment or is it coming to an end? 21:27 < BHSPitLappy> it gets maintained, but there's not much to do anymore 21:28 < BHSPitLappy> at least until someone comes along and graces us with a way to beat the security on all the newer firmwares 21:29 * amiconn thinks there are several fixes/ enhancements that still didn't make it into the kernel 21:30 < BHSPitLappy> amiconn, then hurry up and do them ;P 21:31 < froggyman108> idk, mybe better support with the installer, such as getting it to work 5.5G, would be something that should get done 21:33 < BHSPitLappy> probably, but most of the long-time devs have moved on (and nobody's come in to replace them) 21:34 < froggyman108> yeah 21:35 < froggyman108> i guess i dont get why i would want IPL over rockbox: what are some reasons for it 21:36 < BHSPitLappy> ease of developing/porting code already written for linux? 21:36 < BHSPitLappy> novelty, hacking, etc 21:38 < froggyman108> others? cuz there is next to no support for music and the games always lag horribly 21:42 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 < BHSPitLappy> did you just come to whine? 21:42 < BHSPitLappy> nobody here wants to "sell" iPL to you 21:42 < BHSPitLappy> it's there, use it if you wish. Same with all software. 21:42 < taylor_> what happened? :) 21:42 < BHSPitLappy> taylor_, a rockbox vs. iPL troll 21:43 < taylor_> oh in that case, iPL is better (in my opinion) but I'm a geek, so, w/e :) 21:44 < froggyman108> well, i am not a troll, i just wanted to see if there were some things on iPL that i was missing, before i took it off my DAP 21:46 < froggyman108> and to see if it was worthwhile for me to have, i am right with people that use it, its just that it appears that rockbox meets MY needs better 21:46 < taylor_> so then go to #rockbox :P 21:47 < BHSPitLappy> what you see (on the wiki/forum) is what you get with us 21:47 < froggyman108> that was my plan, i just wanted to ask some people to see what features they though made iPL good and see if I would need them or if i could stop my triple boot and just boot rockbo 21:48 < BHSPitLappy> we're not keeping any secrets, there aren't any hidden features you should be aware of 21:48 < taylor_> yeah everything is on the wiki 21:48 < taylor_> forums, etc 21:49 < taylor_> and then come back if you still have *iPL* related questions ;) 21:54 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 22:04 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@ool-182d0a7f.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:14 -!- froggyman108 [n=froggyma@pool-71-186-64-226.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["iPodLinux rocks!"] 22:56 -!- taylor___ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:16 -!- g4p [n=jp@p4FCE4EA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://nukular.mybrute.com"] 23:19 -!- taylor___ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:47 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:47 -!- amiconn_ [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 23:47 -!- amiconn_ is now known as amiconn 23:51 * courtc keeps secrets. 23:54 -!- taylor_ [n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:57 < BHSPitLappy> :O --- Log closed Sun Apr 12 00:00:00 2009