--- Log opened Wed Dec 17 00:00:01 2008 00:23 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-43-61.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:23 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng430.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 00:24 -!- BOFH [n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:40 -!- logan [n=mint@187.166-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:40 -!- logan is now known as Guest5124 00:43 < BleuLlama> ALoGeNo: head to the iphone linux sites and chat to find out about that project 00:43 < BleuLlama> this is for using linux on "classic" ipods, not the phone or touch 00:43 < ALoGeNo> ooohh.. :( 00:44 < ALoGeNo> thank you in any case 00:44 < Guest5124> quick question 00:44 < Guest5124> if i was to reboot while firmware was booting first time 00:44 < Guest5124> there is no way to fix the logic board, other than replacement? 00:45 < BleuLlama> booting or installing? 00:45 -!- ALoGeNo [n=QUAKEIII@unaffiliated/alogeno] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:45 < BleuLlama> and no, you can't brick while doing any step of the ipodlinux installation process 00:45 < Guest5124> i installed new firmware then restarted it on first boot 00:45 < Guest5124> i was putting apple firmware back on 00:45 < BleuLlama> i think the fault was during the "install" not the reboot 00:46 < BHSPitLappy> Guest5124, did you reboot it while there was an Apple and a progress bar? 00:46 < BleuLlama> good point. 00:46 < Guest5124> yeah :( 00:46 < Guest5124> from everything i've heard 00:46 < BleuLlama> why did you do that? 00:46 < Guest5124> thats really bad 00:46 < BHSPitLappy> That's bad. And stupid. 00:46 < BleuLlama> yeah. 00:46 < BleuLlama> bring it to an apple store. 00:46 < BleuLlama> they'll fix it for you 00:46 < BHSPitLappy> Basically, yeah. 00:46 < Guest5124> i was stumbling around cause i messed up my first install for the linux firmware 00:46 < BHSPitLappy> They'll probably call you stupid too. 00:46 < Guest5124> yea i bet 00:47 < BHSPitLappy> "Hmm, I think I'll reboot the device at NOW OF ALL TIMES" 00:47 < Guest5124> lol 00:47 < BleuLlama> although, will disk/firmware mode work, since that's in the lower level firmware, not disk-based firmware 00:47 < BleuLlama> BHSPitLappy: do you know? 00:47 < Guest5124> nothing works 00:47 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, dunno 00:47 < BHSPitLappy> I don't expect anything to work 00:47 < BleuLlama> Guest5124: try booting to disk mode. 00:47 < BleuLlama> yeah. but try it. nothing to lose 00:47 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, he nabbed it while it was /flashing/ 00:47 < Guest5124> the only activity i get is an annoying high pitch noise when the battery is somewhat charged, and the noise is the only way to tell 00:47 < Guest5124> its quiet too 00:48 < Guest5124> have to have my ear by the wheel 00:48 < BleuLlama> yeah. you screwed it up. bring it to an apple store. they might be able to fix it. 00:48 < BleuLlama> sorry dude. 00:48 < BHSPitLappy> s/fix/replace/ 00:48 < BleuLlama> maybe 00:48 < BHSPitLappy> Make sure to be in tears. 00:48 < Guest5124> apple wont touch it 00:49 < BleuLlama> they might just offer you 5% trade in 00:49 < Guest5124> ive had it for 4 years and never had a warranty 00:49 < BleuLlama> then ebay. sorry. 00:49 < Guest5124> lol 00:49 < BleuLlama> good luck with it. 00:49 * BleuLlama done. 00:49 < Guest5124> i'm getting the logic board replaced 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> Guest5124, if you got 4 years out of it, then you're not really at a huge loss 00:49 < Guest5124> i know lol 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> Yeah, you can find one on ebay with a broken LCD or something. 00:49 < Guest5124> and the fact that it was free to begin with XD 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> well then stop whining 00:50 < Guest5124> im not 00:50 < Guest5124> just trying to find out if theres any way to fix it 00:50 < Guest5124> other than the way im going to attempt 00:51 < BleuLlama> yeah. mix-n-match with the same model 00:51 < BleuLlama> and generally the way people usually think they're being "clever" and try to "fix it themselves" will break it. 00:52 < BleuLlama> ie; it's a misguided attempt that truly has no other result than it destroying the unit completely 00:52 < BHSPitLappy> Huh? 00:52 < Guest5124> i'm just going to replace the logic board 00:52 < BleuLlama> that should wrok okay, Guest5124 00:52 < Guest5124> nothing fancy i dont plan on removing units or stuff lol 00:52 < BleuLlama> just be VERY careful, and VERY slow 00:52 < Guest5124> ok good thanks 00:52 < Guest5124> i will 00:52 < BleuLlama> and rememnber, NOTHING in there requires lots of force to remove or install 00:53 < BleuLlama> if it seems hard to remove a ribbon, for example, there's probably a latch you're not seeing 00:53 < BHSPitLappy> And whatever you do, let your parts soak in DRAIN-O overnight before attempting to turn them on 00:53 < BleuLlama> and puilling it *will* break it 00:53 < Guest5124> its an ipod video 00:53 < BleuLlama> look around for videos of disassembly and repair of it. 00:53 < BleuLlama> yep, there are vids of that out there 00:53 < Guest5124> the cables inside are thick 00:53 < BleuLlama> no 00:54 < Guest5124> i mean as thick in the middle as it is on the end 00:54 < BleuLlama> the ribbon cables to the screen and front controls are VERY thin and VERY delicate. 00:54 < Guest5124> so no matter where you pull it i'd have to pull carefully 00:55 < BleuLlama> but remember that all of thos have latches at the ends to secure them. removal of the cables without properly unsecuring will cause it to break the cable 00:55 < Guest5124> yeah 00:55 < BleuLlama> then you're replacing a $30 display along with the mainboard, etc. 00:55 < BleuLlama> so. slow. careful. it may take an hour 00:55 < BleuLlama> let it. 00:55 < BleuLlama> :) 00:55 < BleuLlama> now i eat dinner. 00:55 < BleuLlama> good luck. 00:55 < Guest5124> ok 00:55 < BleuLlama> :) 00:55 < Guest5124> thanks 00:56 < Guest5124> im out 00:56 -!- Guest5124 [n=mint@187.166-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 01:00 -!- sprecker is now known as sprx 01:10 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng430.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:16 -!- billygalbreath [n=billygal@c-76-31-102-106.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:16 < billygalbreath> hello hello 01:24 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 01:53 < jerl92> helo 01:56 < billygalbreath> i stumbled across the project website in search for how to sync my music to my ipod from linux. i do have some concerns though 01:57 < billygalbreath> mainly, is it a possibility to accidentally brick an ipod attempting to install linux onto it? 01:58 < jerl92> can you be more specifique? 01:59 < BleuLlama> as long as you dont unplug it while the [===== ] progres bar is updating during the first reboot, it's impossible to brick 01:59 < BleuLlama> (if it shows it) 02:00 < BleuLlama> but i don't even think that comes up. it's been a long time since i've installed ipl 02:00 < billygalbreath> ok cool - now, once linux is on it, is it ever possible to go back to the original firmware? 02:00 < jerl92> yes 02:01 < billygalbreath> nice - now, what about ipod specific hardware (eg: a pioneer car audio head unit with ipod jack) - will the ipod still work with those? 02:02 < BleuLlama> if you boot to appleos, yes. 02:02 < billygalbreath> what do you mean? dualboot linux/appleos? appleos being the original firmware? 02:02 < jerl92> yes 02:03 < billygalbreath> wicked cool - how do I know which generation ipod I have? 02:04 < jerl92> http://ipodlinux.org/wiki/Generations 02:04 < BleuLlama> you look at it and compare it with the pretty pictures on our Generations page 02:05 < billygalbreath> lol 02:14 < billygalbreath> ok - i have a nano 4th gen 02:15 < jerl92> 2bad :( 02:15 < billygalbreath> yeah - major bummer 02:16 < billygalbreath> any idea on when something will be available to me? 02:16 < BleuLlama> as soon as you buy an older, supported ipod 02:16 < BleuLlama> they're cheap on ebay. 02:16 < BleuLlama> have fun! 02:16 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng430.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 02:18 < billygalbreath> i meant like, are there any plans on supportting it in the future? ie, any research going into the chipset/etc still, or is it just a dead end piece of hardware? 02:18 < jerl92> http://home.gna.org/linux4nano/ 02:22 < Keripo> hm, on a side note I'd like to say that I completely disassembled a friend's iPod video last week (broken LCD) and it wasn't too hard at all nor required too much delicate work (as long as you have something like a small flathead screwdriver to pop up the latches holding the ribbons) 02:48 < BleuLlama> yep. many people don't know how those latches work, and will just PULL the cables out, which invariably damages or tears them 03:05 -!- rvvs89 [n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:06 -!- rvvs89 [n=ivo@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:16 -!- billygalbreath [n=billygal@c-76-31-102-106.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:18 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 04:20 -!- NeonFloss [n=wait@rdsl-0551.tor.pathcom.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:20 < NeonFloss> does ipod linux provide support for more video formats? 04:55 < Keripo> not really - the iPod just isn't powerful enough for most standard formats 04:56 < NeonFloss> ok 04:56 < NeonFloss> and still no progress on 6 gen? 04:59 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:59 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 05:01 < BleuLlama> still. 05:06 < NeonFloss> :( 05:06 < NeonFloss> stupid apple 05:07 < NeonFloss> and stupid me for buying 6 gen 05:20 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-43-61.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has quit [] 05:32 -!- sprx is now known as sprecker 05:35 -!- NeonF|oss [n=wait@rdsl-0551.tor.pathcom.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:35 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng430.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:36 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng430.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 05:51 -!- NeonFloss [n=wait@rdsl-0551.tor.pathcom.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:30 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 06:32 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:32 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 06:33 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng430.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:52 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 07:33 -!- sprecker is now known as sprx 07:58 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 08:20 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:25 -!- perror [n=fleury@aldebaran.labri.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 10:59 -!- sprx [n=nnscript@d39-113-161.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )"] 10:59 -!- sprecker [n=nnscript@d39-113-161.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:03 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 11:34 -!- Ma-gi-er [n=ma-gi-er@adsl-89-217-68-85.adslplus.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 11:55 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 12:10 -!- scorche|1h [n=scorche@squisch.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:12 -!- scorche|sh [n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:14 -!- scorche|1h is now known as scorche|sh 12:19 -!- Ma-gi-er [n=ma-gi-er@adsl-89-217-68-85.adslplus.ch] has quit ["Bin nun Offline"] 13:17 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:17 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost] has joined #ipodlinux 13:44 -!- BHSPitCSP [n=BHSPitMo@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:11 -!- BHSPitCSP [n=BHSPitMo@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 16:02 -!- BOFH [n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh] has joined #ipodlinux 16:38 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-35-246.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 -!- uwe__ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-046-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:36 -!- uwe2 [n=uwe@dslb-088-064-074-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:37 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 17:46 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe_@dslb-088-064-074-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:12 -!- Guest218 [n=Guest218@206.212.230.130] has joined #ipodlinux 18:13 -!- Guest218 [n=Guest218@206.212.230.130] has quit [Client Quit] 18:25 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe_@dslb-084-056-046-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 -!- perror [n=fleury@aldebaran.labri.fr] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:18 -!- Bi-noix [n=Binoix@2002:52e2:2583:dead:20d:93ff:fe39:5f90] has quit ["Coyote finally caught me"] 19:26 -!- Bi-noix [n=Binoix@2002:52e2:2583:dead:20d:93ff:fe39:5f90] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 -!- flynux [n=flynux@2a01:38:0:0:0:0:0:0] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:40 -!- flynux [n=flynux@2a01:38:0:0:0:0:0:0] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-35-246.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has quit [] 20:49 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 20:50 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 20:50 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:32 -!- Guest720 [n=Guest720@adsl-146-97-93.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 < Guest720> is this for podzilla? 21:34 < Guest720> hello? 21:48 < Guest720> hello 21:48 -!- Guest720 [n=Guest720@adsl-146-97-93.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit ["iPodLinux rocks!"] 22:23 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:24 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:40 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 < n00b81> msg 22:47 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:48 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["iPodLinux rocks!"] 22:49 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 -!- sprecker [n=nnscript@d39-113-161.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )"] 22:59 -!- sprecker [n=nnscript@d39-113-161.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:15 -!- hd [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has joined #ipodlinux 23:15 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:15 -!- hd [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:16 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has joined #ipodlinux 23:17 -!- NeonF|oss [n=wait@rdsl-0551.tor.pathcom.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Going!"] 23:30 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S0106000ea691d979.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:30 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:47 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:47 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:59 -!- n00b81 [n=n00b81@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Thu Dec 18 00:00:00 2008