--- Log opened Sat Nov 15 00:00:02 2008 00:02 -!- hollanbm [n=hollanbm@137.112.136.219] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:08 -!- Slack__ [n=brett@12-218-63-169.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:08 -!- Slack_ [n=brett@12-218-63-169.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Operation timed out] 00:35 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng327.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 01:10 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has joined #ipodlinux 01:27 -!- bmxr [n=Terry@d64-180-241-68.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:34 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 -!- bmxr_laptop [n=chatzill@d64-180-241-68.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:39 -!- bmxr [n=Terry@d64-180-241-68.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:00 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng327.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:08 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 02:42 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 02:43 -!- plus_M_ is now known as notplus_M 02:45 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 03:38 -!- Kom0dor [n=god@146.7.220.102] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:08 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:16 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:34 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #iPodLinux 05:41 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng144.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 < Keripo> why is the website so slow? >_> 06:00 < BleuLlama> because the stupid python stuff is still running on it 06:00 < BleuLlama> 01:02 1:02 up 34 days, 13:12, 4 users, load averages: 10.76 11.03 10.72 06:00 * BleuLlama sleep now 06:54 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng144.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 07:50 -!- scorche [i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:50 -!- scorche [i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has joined #ipodlinux 08:10 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:10 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:14 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:14 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 09:22 < rvvs89> That's pretty high 12:00 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 13:18 -!- nelek [n=nope@213.219.139.175.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:18 < nelek> hi peeps 13:36 < nelek> anybody know if/when booting from hfs+ is supported again? 14:04 -!- wallison [n=wallison@pool-71-179-228-128.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:47 -!- Guest620 [n=Guest620@adsl-99-149-60-114.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 < Guest620> Will my JVC ipod controller in my car still control my ipod installing purely ipodlinux or do I need to dual boot? 15:32 < BleuLlama> Guest620: dual boot 15:32 < BleuLlama> nelek: it still does. works here. 15:34 -!- Guest620 [n=Guest620@adsl-99-149-60-114.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["iPodLinux rocks!"] 15:34 < nelek> there was a bug on my 4g in the bootloader that prevented it to boot 15:34 < nelek> like a month ago 15:34 < nelek> it had something to do with an itunes update? 15:37 < BleuLlama> HFS ipods have always booted fine. there was an issue with the partition sometimes, but there are patches/versions of software out there, and on the Manual_installation page, there is a workaround listed that has been there for about 9 months now 15:37 < BleuLlama> that problem shouldn't affect ipods other thn 5G ipods though 15:38 < nelek> bizarre 15:38 < nelek> it didn't work on my 4g ipod and i remember talking to you about it and debugging it with another person 15:40 < nelek> we tracked it down to some kind of variation of the HFS+ format only present on iPods 15:43 < BleuLlama> huh 15:43 < BleuLlama> i don't remember... but then i barely remember where i live 15:44 < nelek> haha 15:44 < nelek> when it boots it gives the following error "detected macpod partition" "error: not a valid hfs+ partition" 15:52 -!- wallison [n=wallison@pool-71-179-228-128.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:54 < nelek> i'm afraid to reformat it since when a colleauge of mine tried it with the same model he bricked it and they couldn't bring it back to life 16:25 < bmxr_laptop> nelek: iPods can pretty much always be "brought back to life" unless they are physically damaged 16:27 < nelek> i know, should be that 16:27 < nelek> i tried his as well 16:27 < nelek> it just wouldn't boot anymore 16:28 < nelek> i think for the formatting of this ipod apple used some special version of their file system 16:29 < bmxr_laptop> there is an HP tool that can fix basically anything 16:33 < bmxr_laptop> http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197 pretty sure that is the one 16:35 < nelek> oh 16:35 < nelek> but thats windows 16:35 < nelek> i'm using a mac 16:36 < bmxr_laptop> :S 16:37 < nelek> hence the reason i'm asking about hfs+ :) 16:51 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 17:27 -!- aarcane [n=aarcane@c-67-187-242-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:28 < BleuLlama> you can always do a restore from iTunes. that will repartition the disk. (set the ipod in disk mode if necessary) 17:29 < BleuLlama> also, if you find the old ipod updater application, that should work better than iTunes (for use with ipl) since it sets up the older layout of the partitions, which fixes 5.xG ipods 17:29 < BleuLlama> but for your issue, nelek, i highly recommend posting something to the forum, since that's now back up 17:33 < nelek> ok good to hear 17:33 < nelek> do you have enough people to test ipodlinux on hfs+ / mac? 17:33 < nelek> i'm not a coder but technical enough to test functionality if need be 17:33 < nelek> i have a 4G iPod Color 17:40 < nelek> is ipodlinux under new management or something? :) 17:46 * BleuLlama is HFS+ Mac 17:46 < BleuLlama> nope. same people 17:46 < BleuLlama> just new server hosting 17:47 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 17:47 < BleuLlama> thanks to the Computer Science department at the Rochester Institute of Technology. :D 17:47 < nelek> oh ok 17:47 < nelek> wow :) 17:47 < BleuLlama> well, they're giving us power and network. I had a spare machine we're using as the hosting server 17:47 < nelek> neat 17:47 < BleuLlama> (which is not very "new", so it's a bit slow at times) 17:48 < nelek> its linux? 17:48 < BleuLlama> nope. 17:48 < nelek> dont say its windows :)) 17:48 < BleuLlama> OS X. for added irony 17:48 < nelek> neat! 17:48 < nelek> client or server? 17:48 < BleuLlama> client. i didn't have a server license that would work on it 17:49 < nelek> ok 17:49 < BleuLlama> os x 10.4, 1gb ram, 17:49 < nelek> well, for apache and third party services, it shouldn't matter much 17:49 < BleuLlama> exactly. 17:50 < BleuLlama> and BSD/OSX is secure. 17:50 < BleuLlama> especially being PPC, it's even more niche 17:50 < BleuLlama> sure, it's secure on its own, but it's got the added "obscurity security" aspect being PPC/OS X. 17:51 < BleuLlama> ;) 17:52 < nelek> uhu 17:52 < nelek> i still have several ppc machines as well 17:53 < nelek> a powermac G5, several G3/500Mhz mainboards of wallstreet laptops i use as headless machines, 2 G4s, a 4400/603ev 17:54 < nelek> i even have a scitex dual PPC 601 132mhz with UNIX lying around somewhere :) 17:54 < nelek> it weighs a ton :) 18:07 < BleuLlama> :) 18:07 < BleuLlama> the "server" is a G4 Sawtooth 450mhz hehe 18:07 < BleuLlama> nice solid hardware 18:08 < BleuLlama> i have a few of the Pismo laptops and a Lombard. great machines. 18:08 < BleuLlama> and my main machine now is a new (late 2008) MBP 19:14 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe_@dslb-088-064-080-247.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:43 -!- Omoikane [n=nickolau@adsl-176-46-55.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:44 -!- Omoikane [n=nickolau@adsl-176-46-55.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 19:45 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe_@dslb-088-064-083-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 -!- Omoikane [n=nickolau@adsl-176-46-55.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:51 -!- Omoikane [n=nickolau@adsl-176-46-55.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:59 -!- notplus_M [n=plus@li26-205.members.linode.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:15 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng144.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng144.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 20:32 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #iPodLinux 20:37 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit ["I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- A. Eins] 20:41 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 21:07 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng144.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 -!- pulle [n=pulle@83-103-73-162.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 < pulle> ciaoooooo 21:19 < pulle> siete italiani?????????? 21:20 < pulle> can you speak italian???????????????' 21:26 < pulle> do you know how to put a theme on dwarf ipod with ipod wizard?? 21:26 -!- pulle [n=pulle@83-103-73-162.ip.fastwebnet.it] has quit ["iPodLinux rocks!"] 21:44 < BleuLlama> I should get a dwarf ipod 22:36 -!- Paltsu [n=hautamak@dsl-jklbrasgw1-ffc1c000-47.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["TŠŠllŠ Seppo FrŠnti, Washington."] 22:40 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" /me would prefer updates not requiring reboots...."] 22:43 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-46-201.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:44 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 22:56 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng144.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:55 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has quit [Client Quit] 23:56 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Sun Nov 16 00:00:00 2008