--- Log opened Mon Oct 13 00:00:03 2008 00:07 -!- jebussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng146.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 00:14 -!- Keripo1 [n=Keripo@dhcp0820.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:18 < Keripo> rvvs89: Do you by any lucky chance still have a copy of the patch file for Installer 2? 00:40 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 01:15 < courtc> aarcane: yes. 01:15 < aarcane> courtc, kk 01:38 < CIA-10> keripo * r2437 /libs/ttk/src/ (hotdog.c sdl.c): Treat 'Power' button as 'Menu' and 'Record' as 'Action' for Sansas in TTK. 01:39 < Keripo> Henceforth, the Sansa e200 shall be held sideways with its screen rotated, the power button mapped as 'p', the record button mapped as 'e', and have a hardware version of 0x0 ^_^ 01:40 < Keripo> any objections/alternative suggestions? 01:44 < courtc> From this day forward, this day -- the day of this proclimation -- Sunday the 12th of October, shall 'p' be known as 'Power' and 'e' known as record. This day, the day that Keripo made this proclamation, shall forever be remembered as the day which those keys were mapped and given names. Names unlike any other. Names which will resound through the ages. All, turning back to this very point in history for the truth about those buttons. 01:46 < courtc> One small thing though... Bleullama likes 'e' for an 'l' shortcut on the desktop... 01:47 < BleuLlama> this is true 01:47 < courtc> Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. 01:48 < BleuLlama> makes it easy to actually "use" a desktop build 01:48 < BleuLlama> i'd be fine moving that to 't' though 01:48 * courtc likes the mouse wheeling kick-assness. 01:48 < BleuLlama> or 'f' 01:48 < BleuLlama> actually 'f' makes more sense 01:48 < courtc> 'f' is ffwd idiot. ;D 01:49 < BleuLlama> agreed, courtc, but i always forget that :P 01:49 < BleuLlama> oh yeah. hahaha 01:49 < Keripo> c for "reCord"? 01:50 < BleuLlama> I decree that the 'e' mapping of 'l' shall henceforth be removed, and replaced with '4' or 't' perhaps 01:50 < courtc> c... was what I was going to say too. 01:50 < BleuLlama> '4' makes sense... then you have 4 for up, r for down 01:50 < Keripo> 'c makes more sense than e for record 01:50 < courtc> and 'd' for play... ... 01:51 < courtc> Maybe bern's iPod was upside down... 01:52 < CIA-10> keripo * r2438 /libs/ttk/src/sdl.c: Use 'c' for the 'Record' button instead of 'e' because BleuLlama is picky 01:52 < Keripo> I actually dont remember why I chose 'e' since i remember agreeing on 'c' (or at least I use 'c' in my ports...) 01:52 < BleuLlama> maybe 'c' for clockwise, 'C" for counterclockwise, 'm' for menu, 'M' for record 01:52 < BleuLlama> '#' for fast forward, and 'd' for rewind 01:52 < BleuLlama> makes total sense 01:53 < courtc> ok, maybe 'd' for yald isn't so bad. 01:53 < Keripo> Needs (ALT+227) 01:54 < courtc> SOH,STX,ETX,EOT,ENQ for play,rewind,ffwd,left,right 01:55 < BleuLlama> bbiaf 01:55 < courtc> good free flowcharting app? 01:56 < courtc> and omnigraffle is !free bleu 02:05 -!- TheSeven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-170-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:05 -!- The_Seven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-162-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 -!- The_Seven is now known as TheSeven 02:06 < Keripo> courtc: commit -> https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/packs/Media/Hotdog-Demos/src/patches/hotdog-ex-all.patch 02:06 * Keripo cleaning the ZS SVN of patches 02:07 < courtc> do you not have svn access? 02:07 < Keripo> thats your svn: http://svn.so2.sytes.net/repos/ipod/hotdog-ex/ 02:08 < Keripo> and I probably wont commit to it much anyway as I dont know anything about anything else there 02:09 < Keripo> cept Insune maybe later 02:11 < BleuLlama> courtc: i read "free" so i didn't say that. ;) 02:11 < BleuLlama> courtc: xfig is always a good fallback 02:11 < BleuLlama> its a little odd to use, but works well 02:11 < BleuLlama> more of a graphing app than a flowchart though 02:12 * courtc shrugs. 02:15 < courtc> Keripo: HD_LCD_* are ipod/sansa only functions 02:15 < courtc> Keripo: see Engine::~Engine() 02:15 < Keripo> ohh, I thought they just did nothing on desktop 02:16 < Keripo> enclose in #ifdef IPOD s then I guess 02:16 < courtc> Engine::~Engine() 02:18 < Keripo> iPod freezes though 02:18 < courtc> I know. It probably isn't getting executed. Which is odd. 02:19 < courtc> I'd rather fix that than submit a hack. 02:20 < Keripo> the path changes make more sense though given how the files are laid out 02:21 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 02:21 -!- jebussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:22 < courtc> Yea, I don't mind changing the path stuff, but it's all kindof experimental stuff. osx and cair weren't really meant to run directly on the ipod. 02:22 < courtc> Then, suddenly someone wanted to run osx... 02:23 < Keripo> osx does (kinda), though not cair. You did forget to remove them for make clean though. 02:24 < courtc> cair is much to slow to be practical. 02:24 < Keripo> I only build bolly, bouncy, imagebits and spinner for the iPod 02:24 < courtc> Yea, those were intended for the ipod. 02:25 < courtc> But more as examples of c++ on the ipod, using hotdog. 02:26 < Keripo> heh, TinyGL needs more use ^_^ 02:26 < courtc> Yep. 02:27 < Keripo> then again, the mech demo changes frames ever half minute... ; ) 02:27 < Keripo> *every 02:27 < courtc> Well, it's kinda slow on the desktop too. 02:27 < courtc> My version of osx used tinygl. 02:28 < aarcane> oh man, you guys remember that day when p became p ? 02:30 < courtc> Today? 02:30 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng146.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:37 < aarcane> yeah, that day was awesome, the way keripo made that proclamation, and then courtc made that heraldic announcement about it 02:37 < aarcane> oh man, looking back.. what an age, what an age. 02:38 < courtc> If only it was like that today. 02:38 < aarcane> yeah, I know 02:38 < aarcane> may I query you, courtc ? 02:38 < courtc> I think you just did. 02:39 < aarcane> I meant query the irc command, not query ask you a question. I should ahve clarified with a / 02:39 < courtc> certainly. 02:39 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:41 -!- Keripo_SLAX [i=a57b87c0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b90db9589b4d8d0] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < Keripo_SLAX> I should really standardize how I nick myself when not on Pidgin on Windows 02:43 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, I think you should standardize which client you use regardless of operating system. 02:45 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, is svn in a buildable state right now ? 02:47 < Keripo_SLAX> On Windows, I use Pidgin, but on SLAX, I just use the web-based Mibbit cause the Pidgin modules crashes often and I'm too lazy to compile the app ; ) 02:48 < Keripo_SLAX> and if you're referring to the ZS SVN, maybe - going to be testing the changes now 02:48 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, kk 02:48 < Keripo_SLAX> once the 300 MB checkout finishes ; P 02:48 < aarcane> holy accidental goat sodomy courtc 02:49 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, how do you have 300MB of checkout ? 02:49 < aarcane> how do you make that much data between a handful of revisions 02:50 < Keripo_SLAX> a large majority of it is data files that should really be moved to a different part of SVN - only maybe 50 MB of it is actual code 02:50 < aarcane> yeah, but how do you have so much data, even if it's not all code, between now and the last time you checked out 02:51 < Keripo_SLAX> just the vanilla kernel source code (archived) and patches already amount to around 100 MB 02:51 < Keripo_SLAX> oh, no, I just screwed up and accidentally deleted a few .svn folders, so I'm just doing a full re-checkout 02:51 < aarcane> oh! 02:51 < aarcane> you scared the sod out of me, lol 02:51 < Keripo_SLAX> heh 02:53 < aarcane> ./lump.sh seems to do svn checkouts.. is that right ? 02:53 < Keripo_SLAX> nope, but it does delete .svn folders from the finished _lump folder 02:54 < Keripo_SLAX> and while I was messing around with things, I accidentally removed the "_lump" part of that remove command >_> 02:56 < aarcane> lol 03:06 < Keripo_SLAX> Sr 03:06 < Keripo_SLAX> *Starting the recompiling process 03:07 < aarcane> o,.,0 03:07 < aarcane> interesting shorthand. 03:08 * Keripo_SLAX blames keyboard 03:08 < Keripo_SLAX> *keyboard layout 03:10 < Keripo_SLAX> uhoh, SDL screwup 03:11 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, does your lump script halt on errors ? 03:14 < Keripo_SLAX> nope, but I do notice when ugly error messages pop up amidst the nicely formatted echo lines 03:14 < Keripo_SLAX> except for the libraries, I dont check for compiling failures as usually come commands fail when something fails to compile (i.e. the file copying commands) 03:15 < Keripo_SLAX> *some 03:15 < aarcane> hrrm, I'm seeing a few errors, most of which mention asm/whatever.h 03:16 < aarcane> but locate only shows a single copy of each of these headers in my include path.. so I'm wondering what the issue might be. 03:16 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 < jerl92> somme body here 03:17 < aarcane> nope. 03:17 < jerl92> yeh 03:17 < jerl92> lol 03:18 < jerl92> waht kind of ipod dou you have 03:18 < aarcane> custom. 03:19 < aarcane> it's based on the mini 1804 board. 03:19 < jerl92> ha me i got i nano 1G 4GB :D 03:19 < jerl92> and im working on somting 03:20 < jerl92> :O 03:20 < aarcane> okay, let me know when you're done working on it. I'm going to go back to listening to my 32GB of music on my custom ipod. 03:20 < jerl92> lol :P ok 03:22 < jerl92> do you want a preweiwe of my work 03:23 < aarcane> not really. someone else might though. 03:23 < jerl92> crote :( 03:26 < jerl92> i make someting with mpd and when you are lisenting somting with and after you want to start somting like mv-player or igpsp or idarnes or iboy .... or somting eles mpd are closin automacli and podzilla sarting the aplication you want 03:26 < jerl92> :D 03:26 < jerl92> im proud of it :D 03:27 < aarcane> does it kill mpd to free the ram, or does it just stop mpd's playback ? 03:27 < jerl92> kill it 03:27 < jerl92> for free ram 03:27 < aarcane> okay, debug it and submit a patch. I look forward to having it in a future version of ipl. 03:28 < jerl92> void check_mpd(){ 03:28 < jerl92> if ((mpdz = mpd_init_connection()) == NULL){ 03:28 < jerl92> sleep(4); 03:28 < jerl92> init_mpd(); 03:28 < jerl92> sleep(3); 03:28 < jerl92> init_mpdc(); 03:28 < jerl92> }else{ 03:28 < jerl92> cleanup_mpdc(); 03:28 < jerl92> send_command("kill"); 03:28 < jerl92> sleep(5); 03:28 < BleuLlama> STOP 03:28 < jerl92> } 03:28 -!- jerl92 was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 03:28 < BleuLlama> no flooding in here. use pastebin to paste code. 03:29 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:29 < jerl92> sory :( 03:29 < BleuLlama> no flooding in here. use pastebin to paste code. 03:29 < jerl92> ok 03:29 < jerl92> dou you want to see my code 03:31 < Keripo_SLAX> jerl92: A better version of that is already implemented in ZeroSlackr's MPD/MPDc modules 03:31 < jerl92> yes i know 03:31 < Keripo_SLAX> if you abruptly kill MPD, the PZ2 menu will freeze 03:32 < Keripo_SLAX> due to the "Now Playing" 03:32 < jerl92> not if you colse mpdc with podzilla will not frezze 03:32 < jerl92> ... 03:33 < jerl92> if you colse mpd and mpdc in the same time podzilla will not freeze 03:33 < Keripo_SLAX> so you'll have to close MPDc first 03:33 < jerl92> yes 03:34 < Keripo_SLAX> you might as well just tell PZ2 to close all the modules before launching the app, then restart PZ2 once the app exits 03:34 < Keripo_SLAX> thus allowing max memory for the app 03:34 < Keripo_SLAX> which is how ZeroLauncher launches apps for the most part ; ) 03:35 < jerl92> haha:)< 03:35 < Keripo_SLAX> though for apps not requiring much memory, I just kill MPD, stop MPDc, then restart both once the app quits, thus not requiring ZeroLauncher to be restarted 03:35 < jerl92> im make my prope version of podzilla !!! 03:35 < Keripo_SLAX> either way, I still prefer Rockbox for music ; ) 03:36 < jerl92> for music yes but for apps not :/ 03:36 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, out of curiosity, why do you have emulators and such running as modules and consuming memory at boot ? 03:37 * BleuLlama prefers appleos for music, not including Mod playback (MikModule FTW) 03:37 < jerl92> yes i got your veersion of igpsp 03:38 * aarcane likes that the appleos ignores files marked with "don't play this file in shuffle mode" when in shuffle mode, and hates that everything else plays them. he understands why, and wishes there was some way to consolidate that feature... 03:38 < jerl92> so when i lisent misic and after i want to play a game boy game i dot have to reboot 03:39 < jerl92> mpd colse automacly :) 03:39 < jerl92> i make a poste on the olther forums for that when i have no kologen with c 03:40 < jerl92> pepole tel me that was not posible 03:42 < aarcane> hehe 03:42 < aarcane> w00t, a few things didn't effectively compile, but after copying _lump to my ipod, it still works :D 03:42 < aarcane> that tells me that I have a working toolchain :D 03:43 < jerl92> yes 03:43 < jerl92> that this http://ipodlinux.org/oldforums/viewtopic.php?t=27947 03:43 < Keripo_SLAX> aarcane: I'm fixing a few stuff in the ZeroSlackr SVN right now 03:43 < Keripo_SLAX> as for the module thing, the emus, etc aren't being loaded - its their launching modules that get loaded 03:43 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, cool. are you by chance getting errors about asm/whatever.h ? 03:44 < Keripo_SLAX> the launching modules are simple modules that add shortcuts to the menu, provide file handlers for the file browser, allow changeable options, etc 03:44 < Keripo_SLAX> nope, I'm getting SDL to compile properly 03:44 < aarcane> oh, hrrm 03:45 < Keripo_SLAX> apparently the SDL changes in the iPL SVN screws things up for me 03:45 < aarcane> I got a handful of asm/whatever.h header issues, but locate finds them all, so I'm not sure what's wrong... 03:45 < jerl92> so keripo what do you ting of waht i done 03:46 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, another feature I'd like to request.. if you're installing to the ipod music partiton, can you put all of zeroslackr in a .zeroslackr folder instead of in / ? I'll help set that up if you'd like~ 03:48 < jerl92> sory for my bad english 03:49 < jerl92> im french and im not too old :( 03:49 < jerl92> wahtever 03:51 < jerl92> goood nithe see tomorow 03:51 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has quit [] 03:53 < Keripo_SLAX> aarcane: hiding the files defeats the purpose of putting it on the Windows partition (i.e. making the files easily accessible) 03:54 < Keripo_SLAX> afaik, iPLGotta uses a .linux folder, though xs does quite a few things differently 03:54 * Keripo_SLAX smacks self for forgetting a #define in SDL_ipodvideo.c 03:55 < aarcane> Keripo_SLAX, xs ? what about not hiding it, but still putting it inside a single folder? 03:56 -!- Keripo_SLAX [i=a57b87c0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b90db9589b4d8d0] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 03:58 < courtc> He seriously needs some sort of persistant irc set up. 03:58 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng152.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 03:58 < aarcane> Keripo, you seriously need to set up a bnc somewhere. 03:58 < courtc> Look at the pretty pictures: http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/?insune No, nothing new. 03:58 < BleuLlama> Keripo: get a shell account somewhere and irssi in screen. 03:59 < BleuLlama> then just reconnect when your network drops out 03:59 < aarcane> ooh wow, that's cool courtc. can you make it look like that on a black-and-white screen ? 03:59 < Keripo> oh, no, that was me rebooting my computer 03:59 < courtc> nope. We've moved out of the middle ages. 04:00 < aarcane> :( 04:00 < aarcane> I'm the only person I know with a black-and-white ipod, but it's still better than everyone elses :P 04:00 < courtc> Seriously though, it's all on hotdog, so it will *work* you'd just have to make a good looking theme. 04:00 < Keripo> I can't seem to get both the 2.95.3 and 3.4.3 toolchains working together on Cygwin on Vista ; / 04:01 < aarcane> Keripo, vista would be the problem there. try using [.*]linux 04:02 < Keripo> courtc: have you actually tried it on a real monochrome? From what I've heard, none of the hotdog demos work on 4Gs at least 04:02 < courtc> Keripo: nope. I would if I really cared enough. 04:02 < Keripo> aarcane: I use Vista for school homework. Besides, there's no TortoiseSVN equivalent for Linux ; / 04:02 < courtc> I have a working mini around here somewhere. 04:02 < aarcane> Keripo, there's svn. 04:03 < aarcane> svn up; svn co; svn ci 04:03 < Keripo> heh, but TortoiseSVN makes things look nice ^_^ 04:03 < CIA-10> keripo * r2439 /libs/SDL/src/video/ipod/SDL_ipodvideo.c: Whoops, forgot to include the #define >_> 04:04 < aarcane> o,.,0 04:04 < BleuLlama> Vista really isn't that bad, if you've actually used it, aarcane. 04:04 -!- TheSeven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-162-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:04 < aarcane> who runs CIA-* bots? 04:04 -!- The_Seven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-137-179.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:04 -!- The_Seven is now known as TheSeven 04:04 < aarcane> BleuLlama, I have vista on my laptop. I only use it for games, it really sucks, and I've spent hours de-sucking it. 04:04 < Keripo> BleuLlama: As a once XP power user, I beg to differ ; ) 04:05 < courtc> I dislike Vista more than XP, which is saying a bit, and I have used it. 04:06 < aarcane> sure vista's pretty and all, but the bad outweighs the good with prolonged exposure. 04:07 < courtc> Keripo: rapidsvn, smartsvn, qsvn, kdesvn, fsvs, esvn 04:11 < courtc> Keripo: also, ksvn does similar integration as tortoise svn on a kde desktop 04:11 < BleuLlama> i meant in comparison to poking your eyes out with a fork 04:12 < Keripo> yay, theres kdesvn and esvn packages for Slackware - will try them 04:12 < courtc> I have poked my eyes out with a fork before, and that's not all it's cracked up to be. 04:12 < aarcane> Keripo, why slackware? 04:12 < Keripo> SLAX is based off Slackware, so I just convert the Slackware packages to SLAX modules 04:13 < Keripo> easier than rebuilding it from source 04:14 < courtc> 'Cause slackware is hip. By "hip" I mean, the hipbone of any linux distro. Also, I mean mother's hipbone. If you get my drift. 04:15 < aarcane> Keripo, unlike courtc, I've got nothing against slackware. I'm just curious. also, why slax ? 04:16 < courtc> You obviously didn't get my drift. 04:16 < Keripo> cause its a nice, small live distro which I first used to set up the iPodLinux compiling enviro 04:17 < Keripo> while I do have Ubuntu installed and could install other stuff, I just use Slax for iPL compiling since thats what people following my "Introduction to Compiling for iPodLinux" tutorial will also be using 04:18 < Keripo> though I've found that I actually dont use Ubuntu or any other Linux distro much as Vista's served all my needs (abeit poorly) 04:19 < BleuLlama> didn't slackware used to be the only distro? (like in the mid-90s?) 04:19 < courtc> Doesn't anyone have Dev-C++ setup instructions for Window cross compiling? 04:19 < BleuLlama> i seen to remember that from college 04:19 < courtc> BleuLlama: That was my drift. 04:19 < BleuLlama> I LIKE POPSICLES! 04:20 < aarcane> Keripo, I want to set up an archlinux package for each fo the toolchains, but noone seems to know what command line arguments need to be passed and to what to make the toolchains.. 04:20 < courtc> Me too, but only in the summer. 04:20 < aarcane> ooh, popsicles. 04:20 * aarcane noms a popsicle, and offers one to BleuLlama, courtc, and Keripo 04:20 < courtc> I made all the toolchains, and gave you the script used to compile them. 04:20 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #iPodLinux 04:21 < BleuLlama> aarcane: stop with the cutsey IRC stuff. 04:21 < BleuLlama> heya BHSPitMonkey 04:21 < BleuLlama> good to see ya! 04:21 < BHSPitMonkey> hi 04:21 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, do you run that twitter account? 04:21 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: indeed i do. i think FXB has the password for it as well 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> ah, was wondering 04:22 < BleuLlama> that would be http://twitter.com/ipodlinux 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> hi to you too 04:22 < BleuLlama> also appears on the front page of ipodlinux.org as the "news" 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, I'm following 04:22 < BleuLlama> made more sense than using a news blog like we used to have 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> I noticed that as well 04:22 * Keripo waves to BHSPitMonkey, then reboots computer 04:22 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng152.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> you or felix started following me as well, though it seems kind of odd for an organization account like that one to be following anyone 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> maybe it's just a status thing :P 04:23 < BleuLlama> if someone follows, i follow back. 04:24 < BleuLlama> (for that account) 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> ah 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> test 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> much better 04:28 < BleuLlama> pass 04:28 < BHSPitMonkey> interception? 04:29 < courtc> Touchdown! 04:29 < BHSPitMonkey> that is not how football works 04:29 < courtc> Football? 04:29 < courtc> I was talking about dinner. 04:30 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm in! 04:30 < BHSPitMonkey> zomg someone port Madden 2008 to iPL 04:30 < courtc> In any case, I still don't get this twitter thing. 04:30 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc, it's a web site, you see 04:30 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: Madden 2008 is so 1999 04:30 < BHSPitMonkey> on the 2.0 internet 04:30 < BHSPitMonkey> have you upgraded your browser to "web 2.0"? 04:31 < courtc> Wait, they came out with internet2 publically? 04:31 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, snag it from Windows Update 04:31 < BHSPitMonkey> it's under Recommended Updates in case you don't see it right away 04:31 < courtc> Firefox says windows update is trying to run a virus. 04:32 < BHSPitMonkey> oh, you want to remove firefox 04:32 < BHSPitMonkey> it's crapware and gayware 04:32 < courtc> I don't want to catch the gay. 04:32 < BHSPitMonkey> stick to IE and you won't have to. 04:32 < BleuLlama> topic. people. 04:32 < courtc> Thanks. 04:33 < courtc> Insune is really awesome! 04:33 < courtc> You guys should contribute code. 04:33 < BHSPitMonkey> I have three iPods! 04:33 < courtc> Do it now! 04:33 * BHSPitMonkey contributes Hello World 04:37 -!- Keripo_SLAX [i=a57b87c0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-24f038071948dbfc] has joined #ipodlinux 04:37 < Keripo_SLAX> Yay, eSVN shows things nicely 04:38 < courtc> maybe now you'll submit patches that are in unix mode ;) 04:46 < BHSPitMonkey> has keripo been experiencing some newline fail 04:53 < courtc> Keripo_SLAX: damnit. Now I want a pandora. 04:56 < courtc> Way overpriced though. 04:58 < aarcane> courtc, you should port ipl to the pandora 05:02 < courtc> no point. 05:02 < BleuLlama> pandora already runs linux 05:02 < BleuLlama> we're getting one at work to play with. :) 05:02 * BleuLlama looking forward to that. 05:14 -!- Keripo [i=a57b87c0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bf65f9eee212923a] has joined #ipodlinux 05:16 -!- Keripo_SLAX [i=a57b87c0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-24f038071948dbfc] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 05:19 -!- raseel [n=raseel@220.225.32.138] has joined #ipodlinux 05:21 -!- TheSeven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-137-179.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 06:32 -!- Keripo [i=a57b87c0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bf65f9eee212923a] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 06:41 -!- yhuang [n=Yifu@nat01-ccc-ext.rutgers.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:29 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:30 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:37 -!- perror [n=fleury@aldebaran.labri.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 07:44 -!- DismalArcadia [n=DismalAr@dsl5402DD6C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ipodlinux 09:15 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 09:16 -!- jebussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- jbussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:39 -!- jebussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:49 -!- raseel [n=raseel@220.225.32.138] has left #ipodlinux [] 11:15 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 11:16 -!- jbussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:38 -!- jebussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:56 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 12:18 -!- jebussell [n=jebussel@219-90-157-173.ip.adam.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:09 < rvvs89> Keripo: Perhaps, I'll look for it in a little while 13:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 13:30 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-088-064-065-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:44 -!- uwe___ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-024-118.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:45 < rvvs89> Keripo: I'm afraid not 14:24 -!- Omoikane__ [n=nickolau@97-81-79-123.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:55 -!- iLauncher [n=iLaunche@59.183.167.156] has joined #ipodlinux 14:55 < iLauncher> is anyone around? 14:56 < iLauncher> it looks like ipl is back up and running again? 14:57 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:58 -!- iLauncher [n=iLaunche@59.183.167.156] has quit [Client Quit] 15:17 < BleuLlama> the project has always been hre. 15:40 -!- aarcane [n=aarcane@c-24-7-144-248.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["screw you guys I'm going home. talking johntramp is where I draw the line."] 15:54 -!- Omoikane__ [n=nickolau@97-81-79-123.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 16:41 -!- guru3 [n=guru3@81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:41 < guru3> ive just done an install on my 3g... but how do i play music? 16:41 < guru3> (followed the manual installation directions) 16:42 < rvvs89> Try the MPD module for podzilla2 16:42 < guru3> something i need to do seperately? 16:43 < rvvs89> Yes, music playback is not there by default 16:43 < rvvs89> Because it uses up a lot of memory 16:43 < guru3> ok 16:43 < guru3> does it sync in with the itunes db 16:43 < guru3> or just scan the drive? 16:43 < rvvs89> It will scan the drive 16:43 < guru3> ok 16:44 < rvvs89> podzilla0 used to use the iTunes db, but that's quite deprecated now 16:44 < rvvs89> I also don't know if it still works with the current itunesdb format 16:44 < fxb> If anyone is bored. Get your iPod(s), and tell me the name, generation, color, capacity, model #, product family # and the last 3 chars of the serial # :-D 16:45 < guru3> are there directions for the mpd installation? 16:45 < guru3> i'm not quite sure what the wiki is saying 16:45 < guru3> because the links are broken 16:46 < rvvs89> Well, you need mpd and mpdc 16:46 < rvvs89> The server and client 16:46 < guru3> ok 16:46 < rvvs89> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/nightly/xpod-mpd.tar.gz 16:46 < rvvs89> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/nightly/xpod-mpdc.tar.gz 16:48 < guru3> where should i extract them to? 16:48 < guru3> /usr/lib/ ? 16:48 < rvvs89> Yar 16:49 < guru3> that be done 16:49 < rvvs89> If all goes well, it should crash on start up no more than once :S 16:49 < guru3> joy 16:50 < guru3> my poor 3g 16:50 < guru3> it was bad enough replacing the disk drive with a CF 16:50 < guru3> although i have a nice flashing red light to indicate disk access 16:51 < guru3> of which it's doing none while stuck at 'initializing module: mpd' 16:51 < guru3> resetting 16:53 < guru3> ooo disk access this time 16:53 < guru3> wooo boot 16:54 < guru3> tried to play... crash... 16:54 < guru3> -_- 16:58 < guru3> just kidding 16:58 < guru3> it lags in a way that takes me back 16:58 < guru3> the good old days 16:58 < guru3> viva P1 17:02 -!- Mowk [n=chatzill@d39-133-198.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:02 < guru3> pausing and then removing smoothes it out for a bit Oo 17:02 < guru3> removing = resuming 17:04 < rvvs89> Ah 17:04 < Mowk> Hey guys, i was an idiot and patched my 5th generation ipod with the ipodpatcher, then i went ahead and undid my ipod and turned it on without doing anything else. Now i turned it on and i get a Rockbox boot loader error. cannot find rockbox.ipod. i cannot restore the ipod because it wont go into disk mode and it doesnt even come up on my computer anymore, anyone know anything about this? 17:05 < rvvs89> See http://ipodlinux.org/wiki/Key_Combinations 17:05 < guru3> time to install some apps and then wrap it all up 17:06 < rvvs89> guru3: http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/nightly/xpod-taskman.tar.gz 17:06 < guru3> essential 17:06 < guru3> thanks 17:06 < Mowk> :D 17:06 < Mowk> thanks dude 17:06 < rvvs89> That's a leaky module I wrote that will let you renice mpd 17:06 < rvvs89> And by leaky I mean memory leaky 17:06 < rvvs89> Mowk: No worries 17:07 < guru3> that sounds a bit 'uh oh' 17:07 < guru3> but as long as it's not open it's not leaky right? 17:07 < rvvs89> I'm not sure, let me check the source 17:08 < rvvs89> (Haven't looked at it in a while) 17:08 -!- Mowk [n=chatzill@d39-133-198.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 17:08 < guru3> could it theoretically be done with a shell script? 17:10 < rvvs89> Yes, and it won't leak until you open the menu item 17:10 < guru3> so it wont leak once closed 17:10 < rvvs89> Right 17:11 < rvvs89> You'll probably lose about 50k of memory 17:11 < rvvs89> I need to fix that 17:11 < guru3> lost memory stays lost then? 17:11 < rvvs89> Until you restart podzilla2 17:11 < guru3> ok 17:11 < rvvs89> Modules are all the same process, unless they fork 17:12 < rvvs89> (like the MPD module) 17:12 < guru3> ok 17:12 < BleuLlama> the proper answer is to put the niceing code into the mpd-launching module itself, imop 17:13 < rvvs89> Yes, but that would be the intelligent solution 17:14 < guru3> well 17:14 < guru3> i'm happy 17:14 < guru3> ive got an ipod running linux with only one moving part- the hold switch 17:14 < rvvs89> :D 17:15 < guru3> hurrah for flash 17:15 < BleuLlama> then perhaps add a "preference setting" for the nice level, to be used the next time it's launched 17:15 < guru3> now to just close it up 17:16 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has quit [] 17:20 < guru3> why are there 4 mpds -_- 17:21 < rvvs89> Oh, one of them is the parent 17:21 < rvvs89> Hmm 17:21 < rvvs89> Did you start audio playback already? 17:23 < guru3> uhh well 17:23 < guru3> i don't remember 17:23 < guru3> possibly 17:24 < guru3> none of them are showing cpu usage 17:27 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < rvvs89> I should have added a parent pid entry 17:30 < rvvs89> I don't think I even added an entry to show the pid anyway 17:30 < rvvs89> I should sleep, good luck o/ 17:31 < guru3> cheers 17:31 < guru3> thanks for the help 17:31 < guru3> it's making me feel my ipod is a computer 17:31 < guru3> such a freaky feeling 17:31 < jerl92> :P 17:31 < guru3> it's LAGS 17:31 < guru3> it's AWESOME 17:32 < guru3> and about 3 people i know can appreciate it 17:32 < guru3> and that's it -_- 17:32 < guru3> on the bright side 17:32 < guru3> since i put a flash drive in 17:32 < guru3> the battery should last long enough in linux to take me to school and back 18:02 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng433.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 18:18 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng433.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:47 -!- perror [n=fleury@aldebaran.labri.fr] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20:03 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [] 20:09 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng424.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- DismalArcadia_ [n=DismalAr@dsl5402DD6C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 < Keripo> Does anyone know how in the world the libSDL.a in the TTK SVN was compiled??? 20:13 < BleuLlama> i cannot answer that with anything useful. 20:21 -!- ghgfhfgs [n=ghgfhfgs@ip-87-247-96-209.davgita.lt] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 < ghgfhfgs> helloall 20:22 < guru3> hi 20:22 < ghgfhfgs> can anyone help me? 20:22 < guru3> the silliest question is the one you don't ask 20:22 < ghgfhfgs> i have the ipod nano 3gen 8 gigs, i want to play games in it, can you help me? ;/ 20:23 < Keripo> oh, idea! 20:23 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng424.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:23 < guru3> i don't believe that ipod linux supports the 3rd gen nano 20:23 < ghgfhfgs> :( 20:23 < guru3> and anygames i know about only work through ipodlinux 20:24 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@209.131.113.150] has joined #ipodlinux 20:24 -!- ghgfhfgs [n=ghgfhfgs@ip-87-247-96-209.davgita.lt] has quit [Client Quit] 20:25 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@209.131.113.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:26 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@209.131.113.150] has joined #ipodlinux 20:26 -!- DismalArcadia [n=DismalAr@dsl5402DD6C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:52 < fxb> Keripo: ./configure --enable-ipod && make 20:52 < fxb> or something like that 20:53 < fxb> http://ipodlinux.org/wiki/Building_SDL 20:55 < BleuLlama> one of the things i'm glad we did last year was that we unified a lot of the command line params and makefile flags across the project 20:55 < BleuLlama> --NOIPOD=1, -g photo etc. 20:55 < BleuLlama> just sayin. 20:57 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng304.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 < fxb> Keripo: read the logs. 21:01 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@209.131.113.150] has quit [] 21:02 < BleuLlama> fxb: eat a cheese log 21:06 < jerl92> yey :) 21:10 < Keripo> fxb: yeah, I followed the tutorial and managed to build SDL 1.2.8 properly 21:10 < Keripo> it works on the iPod, but not the Sansa 21:11 < Keripo> meaning I screwed up in the Sansa port somehow (or Sebastian did some crazy things with his SDL port) 21:38 -!- DismalArcadia_ [n=DismalAr@dsl5402DD6C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:45 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng304.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:00 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:30 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@dhcp0820.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 -!- jerl92 [n=jer_l_@ip-66-254-34-17.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has quit [] 22:37 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@dhcp0820.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:40 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng354.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@eng354.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 23:23 -!- calgary [n=calgary@adsl-71-138-137-214.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:23 < calgary> hello 23:23 < calgary> can someone help me 23:23 < Woolly> sup? 23:23 < calgary> I just installed ipod linux on my 5G 23:23 < calgary> and now i cant boot into it 23:23 < calgary> it will only boot back into regular Apple OS 23:24 < Woolly> what bootloader are you using? 23:25 < calgary> sorry, im a serious newbie here, i dont know what you mean by boot loader 23:25 < calgary> ok 23:25 < calgary> i see now 23:25 < calgary> oh 23:25 < calgary> i just solved the problem 23:25 < Woolly> :D 23:25 < calgary> i had it set to the Ipod Os default 23:26 < Woolly> ahh 23:26 < Woolly> always helps :P 23:28 < calgary> does it need to be in disk mode? 23:35 < Woolly> for what? 23:38 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 23:44 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 23:48 -!- calgary [n=calgary@adsl-71-138-137-214.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:51 -!- _hc [n=hanschri@209.131.113.150] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Tue Oct 14 00:00:00 2008