--- Log opened Tue Sep 30 00:00:02 2008 00:09 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@77.20.73.176] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:50 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 01:17 -!- Jason2gs [n=Jason2gs@71.238.211.166] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 -!- Jason2gs [n=Jason2gs@71.238.211.166] has left #ipodlinux ["BURN IT WITH FIRE!"] 01:20 -!- Jason2gs [n=Jason2gs@71.238.211.166] has joined #ipodlinux 01:21 < Jason2gs> So. Am I misunderstanding something, or will this uClinux thingy make iPod Linux (or at least something like it?) available to the 2nd and 3rd gen iPod nanos? 01:23 < BleuLlama> uClinux is the flavor of linux kernel that iPodLinux uses 01:23 < BleuLlama> it does not work on any Nano other than the first gen nano 01:24 < Jason2gs> Does it look like the third gen nano will ever be supported by iPL? 01:25 < BleuLlama> check back in a few years. it's unlikely to happen soon 01:25 < Jason2gs> :p 01:25 < BleuLlama> just being honest 01:25 < Jason2gs> Meh. Kk. What confused me was this line: Currently the project is focused on porting the uClinux kernel to the iPod. Ideally the kernel will support all the hardware features available on the iPod. 01:27 < BleuLlama> what confuses you about that statement? 01:28 < Jason2gs> As in, there won't be any more hardware problems. I also read something before about how it was being ported to other handhelds... 01:29 < BleuLlama> as in, that's the mission statement. 01:30 < BleuLlama> someone has in fact got it running on another piece of hardware; i don't remember whiich hardware or who it was, but it was basically the same hardware. what does that have to do with it though? 01:33 < Jason2gs> I hadn't heard anything before about uClinux, so I figured it was new. I also figured that with the arrival of uClinux, there would be no more hardware problems, and the third gen would be supported finally. But you said that it's unlikely to happen soon, so... 01:34 < BleuLlama> uClinux has been around for years. It has always been the kernel used for iPodLinux 01:34 < BleuLlama> http://www.uclinux.org/ 01:34 < BleuLlama> read through the page 01:36 -!- andrus [n=mark@68-186-201-157.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 < Keripo> Jason2gs: Basically all pre-iPod classic-and-nano-2G models are supported by iPodLinux at the moment 01:40 < Keripo> some of the models have better hardware support/optimizations, but generally its all the same 01:41 < Keripo> the only new "target" so far is the Sansa e200 V1 01:41 < Keripo> which, unfortunately, only has one person working on it (i.e. myself) with that one person also being extremely busy (i.e. schoolwork) 01:42 < BleuLlama> which is unfortunate, since you're one of the most capable people in the project. heh 01:42 < Keripo> capability != ability - people like you, fxb and courtc are far more knowledgeable than myself 01:42 < andrus> Despite ipodlinux.org being down, where can i get information on developing podzilla2 modules? 01:43 < BleuLlama> google cache 01:43 < BleuLlama> the site will be back up in the next few days 01:43 < Keripo> waybackmachine too 01:43 < Keripo> or just looking at the samples in SVN 01:43 < Keripo> theres only a few things that PZ2 offers that isn't in some module in SVN 01:43 < andrus> Great, thank you. 01:43 < Keripo> or doesn't have a clear example of I mean 01:44 -!- Jason2gs [n=Jason2gs@71.238.211.166] has left #ipodlinux [" "] 01:45 < Keripo> BleuLlama: until I can settle things down nicely in my freshman year, I'd prefer to spend more time on my real life studies over side/hobby projects like iPL (unfortunately?) 01:45 < BleuLlama> good. 01:45 < Keripo> thus, very little activity from me for the time being (till the breaks of course ; P) 01:46 < BleuLlama> you should really focus on your studies. no one holds any grudge against you (or anyone else) for that 01:47 < BleuLlama> My comment was meant as a compliment 01:48 < Keripo> heh, thanks. I just mean it in the sense of "don't expect to much and people should lax a bit on the 'plz updat zeroslackr's" ; P 01:49 < BleuLlama> of course. 01:50 < BleuLlama> if anyone has issues with any participant in the project not respecting that actual contributors are not spending enough time on the project, they can come through me 01:50 < BleuLlama> Grrr. 01:50 < BleuLlama> ;) 01:50 < Keripo> ^ needs better grammar ; P 01:50 < BleuLlama> yeah. my mind was wandering as i wrote that, and I'm watching Heroes. hehe 02:05 -!- andrus [n=mark@68-186-201-157.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:07 -!- TheSeven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-152-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:25 -!- TheSeven|Zzz [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-179-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:29 -!- SETH_HIKARU [n=SETH_HIK@host-158-176-3-96.midco.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 < BleuLlama> why are you PM'ing me. stop it. 02:30 < SETH_HIKARU> oh sorry 02:30 < SETH_HIKARU> just wanted 2 see if ur there 02:31 < BleuLlama> read the topic 02:31 < BleuLlama> 1) don't PM without asking 02:31 < BleuLlama> 2) spell out your words 02:31 < SETH_HIKARU> i have checked the website awhile ago and its address changed 02:32 < SETH_HIKARU> well id love to check the server status but i dont have access to a computer 02:32 < SETH_HIKARU> im using my nintendo ds 02:32 < BleuLlama> bummer. make note of the url then and check it later. 02:33 < BleuLlama> or just launch Opera on your DS and check it there. 02:33 < BleuLlama> the page loads on a DS 02:33 < BleuLlama> thanks. 02:33 < SETH_HIKARU> and i ha 02:33 < SETH_HIKARU> cant 02:33 < SETH_HIKARU> using homebrew 02:33 < BleuLlama> this isn't my problem. 02:33 < SETH_HIKARU> and i havent got a browser to work yet 02:33 < SETH_HIKARU> i know 02:34 < BleuLlama> figure it out on your own. 02:34 * BleuLlama afk 02:34 < SETH_HIKARU> i am 02:43 < Keripo> SETH_HIKARU: Just dish out ~$30 for an R4DS and get FlashMe on it 02:43 < SETH_HIKARU> no 02:43 < SETH_HIKARU> i have max media dock 02:44 < SETH_HIKARU> interestingly sometimes renaming files will let me see them on the mmd browser 02:45 < SETH_HIKARU> and then i can launch them 02:45 < Keripo> or more fun, install DSLinux and use links ^_^ 02:49 < SETH_HIKARU> ya 02:49 < SETH_HIKARU> if i can get it to work 02:49 -!- SETH_HIKARU [n=SETH_HIK@host-158-176-3-96.midco.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:53 < Keripo> -sigh- too much off-topic-ness >_< 02:55 < BleuLlama> he's always been annoying. he always will be 02:55 < BleuLlama> i just try to walk away but give him a bit of "meta"-based "you're doing it wrong" 02:57 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng031.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:57 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng031.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 -!- jebussell [n=jbussell@114-30-109-97.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng031.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:33 < BHSPitMonkey> I know what you mean 03:34 < BHSPitMonkey> tell him he should not have accidentally the whole bottle 03:36 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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?!) is it possible to install ipod linux on my ipod right now? 14:03 -!- Metallsoldat [n=dasgrimm@pool-96-239-66-66.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:05 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc767418-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 14:05 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc767418-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:05 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 14:06 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 14:07 < BleuLlama> server is going to be back up today/tomorrow 14:16 < teuf> BleuLlama: great news :) 14:18 < BleuLlama> The new machine is in the server room. The admins are getting a new wire dropped to it 14:19 < BleuLlama> Many thanks to the Department and System Administrators at the Department Of Computer Science at the Rochester Institute of Technology. :D 14:20 < BleuLlama> they are providing free power, network, and basic support (and access for me to get in there and fix things as need be) 14:20 < BleuLlama> (the machine itself was given to me personally by the Color Science group in the Center For Imaging Science at RIT as well. 14:20 < BleuLlama> but that was a "we don't want this, do you?" kind of thing, about 3 years ago. ;) 14:21 < BleuLlama> but the CS people are actively supporting this. which is awesome 14:22 < BleuLlama> (and for what it's worth, the machine only has 100megabit network, but it's sitting essentially on the internet backbone, and on an Internet-2 campus. So bandwidth isn't an issue anymore at all. 14:22 < BleuLlama> yes.. "only" 100 megabit. If we saturate that, we'll have other problems. ;) 14:33 -!- Woolly-Work [n=Woolly@ip246-108-v193.static.x-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 < Woolly-Work> afternoon 14:37 < fxb> hey 14:38 < Woolly-Work> how goes? 14:41 < BleuLlama> oh, and I also added a "status" bit to my website, link in the topic 14:43 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:43 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 14:56 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@drl126.wlan.sas.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 15:31 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:49 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@drl126.wlan.sas.upenn.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:59 -!- setkeh [n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:05 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 16:09 -!- funky [n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky] has joined #ipodlinux 16:09 < funky> 'lo 16:10 -!- setkeh [n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:11 < eight> lo 16:20 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@drl126.wlan.sas.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 16:23 < Woolly-Work> lo 16:51 -!- setkeh [n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 17:00 -!- setkeh [n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:08 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@drl126.wlan.sas.upenn.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:21 -!- Woolly-Work [n=Woolly@ip246-108-v193.static.x-ip.net] has quit [] 17:33 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.cs.rit.edu/ 17:34 < TheSeven> "Coming back soon..." sounds good ;) 17:40 < eight> so it was down for like 3 weeks? 17:41 < BleuLlama> 3 months 17:41 < BleuLlama> probably more 17:41 < BleuLlama> was flaky for the year before that 17:41 < eight> I have good timing, I see 17:41 < eight> why so? 17:42 < eight> it's pretty easy to get web hosting 17:42 < BleuLlama> not for free with high bandwidth 17:43 < BleuLlama> not to mention that we want full control over the server 17:43 < BleuLlama> not just running linux on your home network served over a cable modem, or paying for hosting at an ISP 17:43 < BleuLlama> regardless, that's behind us now 17:43 < BleuLlama> i have complete physical access to this machine, am very good friends with the sysadmins there 17:43 < eight> but you could use something temporary till then 17:44 < eight> great :) 17:45 < BleuLlama> i had a machine almost ready to go, but was having boot issues with it, then i had various personal obligations crop up on me, so i had to backburner it, with thoughts that I'd be able to work on it more than I did 17:45 < BleuLlama> last week, i just dug down, got it installed, stable, and dropped it off yesterday 18:12 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=fiftyfou@cpe-74-73-158-167.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:13 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=fiftyfou@cpe-74-73-158-167.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:51 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:05 -!- dvrk [i=rancor@unaffiliated/dvrk] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:09 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 19:28 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng196.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:28 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng196.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:34 < BleuLlama> for any of you who might be interested, http://twitter.com/ipodlinux 19:34 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng196.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:35 < BleuLlama> that's the new iPodLinux twitter account 19:35 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng196.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:38 -!- BleuLlama changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: Linux on your iPod || Server status at http://absynth.com/ipl/ || @ipodlinux on twitter.com || No progress for 2nd Gen nanos yet || Up thru 5.5G work || When asking for help, state your OS and iPod Model || Ask to PM || Spell out your words || Development discussion in #ipodlinux-dev 19:40 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng196.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng196.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:40 -!- TheSeven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-195-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]"] 19:42 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 19:57 -!- TheSeven [n=theseven@dslb-084-056-195-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:20 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 20:47 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 -!- Drgb is now known as BOFH 20:58 -!- ipl2 [n=sdl@ipodlinux.cs.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 -!- ipl2 [n=sdl@ipodlinux.cs.rit.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 22:21 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < Woolly> a 22:50 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@kin-eng310.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 22:59 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] --- Log closed Wed Oct 01 00:00:00 2008