--- Log opened Fri Sep 26 00:00:01 2008 00:10 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:10 < stephen__> good morning! 00:13 < Keripo> good morning (ohayou!) 00:18 < stephen__> i'm incredibly late to the party 00:18 < stephen__> i've just installed ipod linux on my iPod video 00:18 < Keripo> through what method 00:19 < stephen__> iPodLinuxManager for windows 00:19 < stephen__> I was having trouble doing it through OSX 00:19 < Keripo> Recommended - >http://sourceforge.net/projects/zeroslackr/ 00:19 < Keripo> iPLManager is unsupported now with AriX no longer working on iPL 00:20 < stephen__> ahh i wasn't aware of that 00:20 < Keripo> I'v basically officially superseeded iPL Manager 00:20 < stephen__> would the zeroslackr project require a linux machine? 00:20 < Keripo> yeah, unfortunately its not that well known as it isn't really linked much anywhere 00:20 < Keripo> linux, mac or windows 00:20 < Keripo> as long as the iPod is a fat32 winpod 00:21 < stephen__> does using zeroslackr now provide any benefit? 00:21 < stephen__> is it the same kernel? 00:21 < Keripo> yes - much more content, newer kernel 00:21 < Keripo> https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/Features.txt 00:22 < Keripo> er, wrong link 00:22 < Keripo> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=206123&release_id=615747 00:22 < stephen__> i'm sold 00:22 < stephen__> downloading just now 00:23 < stephen__> with the ipodlinux.org website being down, it's quite hard to find any new information on the proect 00:23 < stephen__> project* 00:23 < Keripo> yeah 00:23 < Keripo> even when the wiki gets back up, lots of things need major updating 00:24 < stephen__> i can imagine 00:24 < Keripo> ZeroSlackr is pretty much the most updated you'll get (sans a few things like ScummVM and Insune) 00:24 < stephen__> i have no idea what they are:D 00:25 < Keripo> just more content to add to a project full of content ; ) 00:25 < stephen__> hah true:D 00:25 < stephen__> is there any messaging system like dBus in iPL? 00:26 < Keripo> no afaik 00:27 < Keripo> none needed probably - iPl is pretty simple 00:27 < stephen__> cool :) 00:29 < stephen__> ZeroSlackr appears to have extracted successfully :) 00:29 < stephen__> now to find instructions on how to put it onto the iPod 00:39 < stephen__> Keripo: when copying over the contents of the archive, do I replace the dev folder (and any others) with the ones from the ZeroSlackr archive? 00:39 < Keripo> yes 00:39 < Keripo> replace everything 00:43 < stephen__> [INFO] Volume IPOD on disk1s2 failed to unmount 00:43 < stephen__> Unmount failed: No such file or directory 00:43 < stephen__> - ipodpatcher failed! 00:43 < stephen__> - Make sure you have root privileges, 00:43 < stephen__> then try running this script again. 00:43 < stephen__> ===================================================== 00:43 < stephen__> Press any key to finish . . . 00:43 < stephen__> ah sorry, that didn't come out well at all 00:44 < stephen__> that's after a sudo sh patch.sh 00:44 < Keripo> on macs? 00:44 < stephen__> yeah 00:45 < Keripo> hm, I guess things are different on macs then 00:45 < Keripo> sec 00:45 < stephen__> k 00:45 < Keripo> well first unmount your iPod and see if it reboots into a newer Loader2 00:45 < Keripo> the title should say something different I think 00:46 < Keripo> with an r2### 00:46 < stephen__> it's visually different: iPL Loader 2.5d6 SVN1409 00:47 < stephen__> and i can boot into ZeroSlackr 00:48 < Keripo> thats iPodLinuxManager's old bootloader then 00:48 < Keripo> can you open up terminal in your iPod? 00:48 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:48 < Keripo> In Mac OS X I mean 00:48 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:48 < stephen> pesky internet 00:48 < stephen> so the patch was unsuccessful? 00:48 < Keripo> yeah 00:49 < Keripo> I've never tried it on a Mac so I assumed the Linux script would also run on Macs 00:49 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:50 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:50 < stephen> fgs 00:50 < Keripo> can you edit the script so there's a "sudo" infront of "./patch-files/ipodpatcher-mac -ab patch-files/loader.bin " 00:50 < stephen> ok will do 00:50 < Keripo> and a sudo infront of all the other commands that require sudo 00:50 < Keripo> I'm not familiar with Macs so I dont know what needs to be sudo'd 00:51 < stephen> i could just run the patch.sh from inside a root shell 00:51 < Keripo> oh, would that mean all lines in the script runs as root? 00:51 < stephen> i think so 00:51 < Keripo> that would work I guess 00:51 * Keripo makes a mental note of that, if it works 00:52 < stephen> that didn't work unfortunately 00:53 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:54 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:54 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:54 < Keripo> run "sudo ./patch-files/ipodpatcher-mac -ab patch-files/loader.bin" manually then I suppose? 00:55 < Keripo> or maybe an extra "./" is needed infront of "patch-files/loader.bin" 00:55 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 < Keripo> run "sudo ./patch-files/ipodpatcher-mac -ab patch-files/loader.bin" manually then I suppose? or maybe an extra "./" is needed infront of "patch-files/loader.bin" 00:57 < stephen__> unmount failed 00:57 < stephen__> no such file or directory 00:57 < stephen__> Volume IPOD on disk1s2 failed to unmount 00:57 < Keripo> huh, I wonder then if thats an ipodpatcher issue... 00:58 < stephen__> hmm 00:58 < Keripo> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPatcher 00:58 < Keripo> if you have gcc, etc, try compiling it from source 01:00 < stephen__> is the "rockbox bootloader" what i'm looking to get? 01:00 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #iPodLinux 01:00 < stephen__> ahh no i get it 01:01 < stephen__> the -ab option in your .sh file specifies the binary 01:01 < stephen__> i've just had the strangest notion 01:01 < stephen__> one sec 01:02 < BHSPitMonkey> hi stephen. 01:02 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:02 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:04 < BHSPitMonkey> hi again, stephen 01:04 < stephen__> hey 01:04 < stephen__> apologies for this 01:04 < stephen__> my internets is going wrong! 01:04 < BHSPitMonkey> hey, don't you hate "Steven"s? 01:04 * Keripo needs someone to help compile tthe mac os x and linux-64 versions of ipodpatcher for him 01:05 < BHSPitMonkey> Keripo, I might be able to oblige if it's straightforward 01:05 < Keripo> lets see 01:05 < BHSPitMonkey> I don't have any kind of environment set up on my 64-bit machine 01:05 < BHSPitMonkey> iPL related 01:05 < BHSPitMonkey> note that VirtualBox can virtualize 64bit OS's now 01:06 < stephen__> bingo! 01:06 < Keripo> if you have linux with gcc installed, thats good enough 01:06 < Keripo> gcc and svn 01:06 < stephen__> i was being a div 01:06 < BHSPitMonkey> when you should have been a span 01:06 < stephen__> indeed! 01:06 < stephen__> i had copied the entire archive onto the iPod 01:06 < stephen__> and was running the patch.sh from the iPod itself 01:07 < stephen__> so it couldn't unmount itself 01:07 < stephen__> if you see what I mean? 01:07 < stephen__> i just had to copy the patch-files directory off the device, and run patch.sh from my home directory 01:08 < Keripo> oh, thats interesting 01:08 < Keripo> I usually run the script from on the iPod both on Linux and Windows and theres never any issue 01:08 < stephen__> iPL Loader 2.5 rxported :) 01:08 < stephen__> that's what I'm looking for isn't it? 01:08 < Keripo> but neither the linux nor windows versions unmount the iPod... 01:08 < Keripo> yup, thats good then ; ) 01:08 < stephen__> genius! 01:09 < Keripo> so the script does actually work, just not when ran on the iPod? 01:09 < stephen__> exactly 01:09 < Keripo> nice - I'll add a note on that then 01:09 < stephen__> glad I could be of service:D 01:10 < stephen__> the ZeroSlackr version appears ALOT more stable than the one I had on here an hour ago 01:10 < Keripo> heh 01:10 < Keripo> I do try my best 01:10 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:11 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:11 < stephen__> *sigh* 01:12 < Keripo> stephen: By the way, do you have gcc installed on your mac? 01:12 < stephen__> yep 01:12 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:12 < stephen__> i686 apple darwin9 gcc version 4.0.1 to be precise 01:12 < Keripo> have some free time on the side to help me compile something? 01:12 < stephen__> sure 01:12 < Keripo> you'll need subversion as well 01:12 < Keripo> (svn) 01:13 < stephen__> that i also have already 01:13 < stephen__> do you mean right now? 01:13 < Keripo> do you have the free time? 01:13 < stephen__> i have the free time 01:13 < stephen__> just its 2am, and i need to sleep 01:13 < stephen__> :P 01:13 < Keripo> ohh, lol 01:13 < Keripo> go to sleep then 01:13 < Keripo> I'm not in any rush 01:14 < stephen__> whats the time difference? 01:14 < Keripo> 9:15 pm here 01:14 < stephen__> east coast? 01:14 < Keripo> GMT -5hr 01:15 < stephen__> i'm not too good with my time zones 01:15 < Keripo> Eastern Time 01:15 < stephen__> US somewhere?:P 01:15 < Keripo> yeah 01:15 < stephen__> that's no problem, I'll be about tomorrow :) 01:16 < stephen__> sleep beckons! thanks for the help! 01:16 < stephen__> had I not spoken to you, I probably would have been tearing my hair out at the old version :P 01:17 < Keripo> heh, no prob 01:20 -!- Omoikane_ [n=nickolau@97-81-79-123.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:20 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 01:23 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:24 -!- HellDragon [n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon] has joined #ipodlinux 01:25 < Keripo> holy @#$% 01:25 < Keripo> the ZS SVN is 410 MB O_o 01:32 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.240.80] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:59 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 02:49 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.216] has joined #ipodlinux 02:50 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.216] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:51 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.216] has joined #ipodlinux 02:52 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.216] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:14 -!- BleuLlama [n=yorgle@banstyle.nuxx.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:14 < BleuLlama> server should be up and running on Monday 03:18 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.101] has joined #ipodlinux 03:22 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.101] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:42 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:46 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@dhcp0820.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 05:52 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@dhcp0820.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:05 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 06:05 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost] has joined #ipodlinux 06:59 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:49 -!- jebussell [n=jbussell@219-90-251-137.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-145-074.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 08:05 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:19 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:21 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-145-074.tbwil.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:21 -!- stephen [n=stephen@cpc1-broo2-0-0-cust718.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:38 -!- perror [n=fleury@aldebaran.labri.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:54 -!- stephen__ [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 08:56 -!- Woolly [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:58 -!- Woolly is now known as Woolly-Work 09:01 -!- Woolly-Work is now known as Woolly 09:02 -!- Woolly [n=stephen@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 09:03 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:32 -!- jebussell [n=jbussell@219-90-251-137.ip.adam.com.au] has quit ["I quit, see you soon!"] 09:36 -!- jebussell [n=jbussell@219-90-251-137.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:03 -!- Woolly-Work [n=Woolly@ip246-108-v193.static.x-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:03 -!- Woolly-Work [n=Woolly@ip246-108-v193.static.x-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:03 -!- Woolly-Work [n=Woolly@ip246-108-v193.static.x-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:03 < Woolly-Work> good morning 10:12 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 10:23 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 10:31 -!- jebussell [n=jbussell@219-90-251-137.ip.adam.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:57 < Woolly-Work> is it possible to attach a USB device to an iPod running iPod linux, such as an external hard drive? 11:29 < fxb> no. 12:00 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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What do you mean? 14:38 < BleuLlama> the early iPods, I personally thought it was only first and second gen, but I could be wrong, could support TCP/IP over Firewire 14:38 < BleuLlama> there was a driver for that 14:38 < Woolly-Work> awesome!:) 14:38 < BleuLlama> but it did require a modified TCP/IP-FW stack on the Linux box you connected to. I don't remember the specifics, and I've never tried it 14:39 < BleuLlama> (obviosuly, since it's TCP/IP over Firewire, it requires that it be tethered to a host desktop machine 14:39 < Woolly-Work> yeah 14:39 < BleuLlama> as far as i can remember, no one has done anything with this more than just academic tests. There was never any web browser or anything even remotely that advanced developed for iPodLinux 14:39 < Woolly-Work> feasible? 14:40 < BleuLlama> so there's little to no sample code of it... if you can find any at all 14:40 < Woolly-Work> yeah 14:40 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:40 < BleuLlama> sure. it works. packets had been sent over TCP/IP from iPodLinux to the intarwebs 14:40 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 14:46 < Woolly-Work> it'd be good to have a proper keyboard to use with iPL 14:46 < Woolly-Work> that probably wouldn't be possible without the USB drivers though 14:50 * BleuLlama nods. correct. 14:50 < BleuLlama> and firewire keyboards don't exist. 14:50 < BleuLlama> however. 14:51 < BleuLlama> serial works on the 1g, 2g, 3g ipods. 14:51 < BleuLlama> RS232 14:51 < BleuLlama> (it needs a level shifter, but that's $10 in parts) 14:51 < BleuLlama> with some work, a serial driver could be made for the other ipods as well, although it requires mroe technical know-how than I posess 14:52 < Woolly-Work> me also i think 14:52 < BleuLlama> (nor do i desire or have time to work on such a thing) 14:52 < BleuLlama> right now, for me, iPodLinux is a backburner project. I've created all of the things I'm probably going to make for it... But I still love it and want to help it to exist. ;) 14:53 < BleuLlama> all of my efforts are put into other projects currently, especially those that can help me buy myself a new laptop. ;) 14:53 < Woolly-Work> a Mac? 14:53 < BleuLlama> Free software is awesome. Don't get me wrong. But free software can't pay for a MacBook 14:53 < BleuLlama> yep 14:53 < Woolly-Work> good stuff 14:54 < Woolly-Work> is iPod Linux dying out? 14:54 < BleuLlama> two $1 apps in the iPhone App store for 7 weeks are buying me a top -end MacBook Pro 14:54 < BleuLlama> nah. 14:54 < BleuLlama> it can never die out 14:54 < BleuLlama> it'll always be around 14:54 < BleuLlama> as long as the old ipod hardware exists, iPodLinux will exist 14:54 < Woolly-Work> true 14:54 < Woolly-Work> i suppose there's a difference in it being around, and people using it and developing for it though 14:55 < Woolly-Work> the latter was more what i was getting at 14:55 < BleuLlama> in fact, IMO, it becomes more viable of an option at this point, since the old ipods are cheaper than they've ever been, and with new replacement battery technologies, will last longer on battery than they ever have before. 14:55 < BleuLlama> sure. 14:55 < BleuLlama> people are fickle. 14:55 < BleuLlama> look at me. 14:55 < BleuLlama> ;) 14:56 < BleuLlama> people will move on and use other things. imo, the G1 will probably be immensely successful in the same sort of arena 14:56 < BleuLlama> Rockbox is still going strong for the older iPod hardware as well. 14:56 < BleuLlama> if you haven't looked into Rockbox, I recommend it. 14:57 < Woolly-Work> i looked into rockbox, but I'm looking for specific functionality, which i thought might be easier to achieve using iPL 14:57 < BleuLlama> understood 14:57 < BleuLlama> I would just hate to see someone *not* try Rockbox only because it's "not linux" ;) 14:57 < Woolly-Work> i need to create a media player app which records the songs the user listens to 14:57 < Woolly-Work> that's true 14:57 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 14:58 < Woolly-Work> would you say that sounds possible? 14:59 < BleuLlama> what exactly do you want it to do? 14:59 < Woolly-Work> it's basically a standard media player, but there's a small program running in the background which makes note of every song played 14:59 < Woolly-Work> and how long it was played for etc 15:00 < BleuLlama> oh, you want it to log the music played, not record the audio from it 15:00 < BleuLlama> sure. sounds perfectly feasable 15:00 < Woolly-Work> yes, sorry I was going to clarify that earlier, but must've deleted it 15:00 < BleuLlama> in fact, you could probably hook into MPD or make a modified MPD client, and that's 80% of your work done already 15:00 < Woolly-Work> that's what I was looking at doing 15:00 < BleuLlama> the music player engine for podzilla2 (the current ipodlinux gui) is MPD based 15:00 < BleuLlama> yeah. sure. 15:01 < Woolly-Work> I'm pretty sure it's possible to do it in C, but being versed in Python, I was hoping to use that 15:01 < Woolly-Work> I haven't investigated whether there is an python MPD API though 15:01 < BleuLlama> Well, there is no python interpreter with ipodlinux, as far as i know 15:02 < Woolly-Work> ahh, that is unfortunate! 15:02 < fxb> there is. 15:02 < BleuLlama> and remember; it's a pretty restrictive environment - interpreted code might not work so well 15:02 < BleuLlama> fxb: oh? my bad. 15:02 < fxb> http://ciberjacobo.com/python-ipod 15:02 < fxb> and someone posted on the forums about python... 15:02 < Woolly-Work> C is probably my best bet then 15:03 < BleuLlama> okay, well, how's this - most of the cpu power, if not all of it, will be dedicated to simply playing the music. an interpreted language runnign on top of that might not work 15:03 < Woolly-Work> yeah, I suppose you're right 15:03 < BleuLlama> Woolly-Work: i highly recommend C. the additions necessary would be pretty straightforward to add to the existing MPDC module 15:03 < fxb> it should be very easy to do this in C 15:04 < BleuLlama> in fact, you could just record any user activity to a log file. User pressed play, song "Don't Fear The Reaper" started. 15:04 < fxb> and i guess it'd also be easy to add that functionality to rockbox 15:04 < BleuLlama> etc 15:04 < Woolly-Work> fxb: really? 15:04 < BleuLlama> with timestamps 15:09 < fxb> Woolly-Work: i'd look at apps/playback.c 15:10 < Woolly-Work> in Rockbox 15:10 < Woolly-Work> ? 15:11 < fxb> yep 15:11 < Woolly-Work> I'll take a look when I get my hands on the iPod 15:28 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@SEASNet-92-66.seas.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 < Woolly-Work> hi keripo, its stephen 15:46 * Keripo waves to Woolly-Work/stephen 15:46 < Woolly-Work> i'm just about to leave work for a drink, but i should be about later on this evening if you're wanting to do that os x stuff 15:47 < Keripo> sure, thats fine (/me -> class at the moment) 15:47 < Woolly-Work> cool 15:48 -!- Woolly-Work [n=Woolly@ip246-108-v193.static.x-ip.net] has quit [] 15:53 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@SEASNet-92-66.seas.upenn.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:38 -!- BOFH [n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:48 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:49 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:00 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@drl011.wlan.sas.upenn.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- drc [i=drclaw@yakko.cs.wmich.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 17:22 < drc> I run windows on my ipodz, Muahahah 17:22 -!- drc [i=drclaw@yakko.cs.wmich.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 18:20 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 18:42 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@drl011.wlan.sas.upenn.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:58 -!- Woolly_ [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:58 -!- perror [n=fleury@aldebaran.labri.fr] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:15 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37 -!- Woolly_ is now known as Woolly 20:44 -!- Woolly [n=Woolly@cpc2-broo2-0-0-cust702.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 21:33 -!- jrsharp [n=jrsharp@c-98-193-244-253.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:55 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 22:06 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.151] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.241.151] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:13 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@130.91.240.85] has joined #ipodlinux 23:51 -!- Jekotia [n=chatzill@d141-59-250.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:52 < Jekotia> Can anyone help me? I can't find a download for Podzilla anywhere D: 23:53 < Keripo> Google for ZeroSlackr 23:54 < Jekotia> Slax 6 Dev Enviro for iPL? 23:54 < Keripo> when you click on it, you'll go to the normal download screen 23:55 < Keripo> I hate the new SF layout where the latest uploaded file gets stuck on the main page >_< 23:55 < Jekotia> I'm confused now :S --- Log closed Sat Sep 27 00:00:00 2008