--- Log opened Fri Aug 01 00:00:02 2008 00:03 < Keripo1> Cady: Thats a bit offtopic here 00:05 -!- jrsharp [n=jrsharp@c-98-193-244-253.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 00:05 < Keripo1> the iPhone/iPod Touch IRC is somewhere on OSx86 net/area/section/group/whatever-you-call-it 00:10 -!- BOFH__ [n=berserk@host229-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 00:15 -!- Cady [n=Cady@190.43.150.7] has quit ["Communicate! It canīt make things any worse."] 00:24 < BHSPitLappy> iphun.osx86.hu #itouch 00:24 < BHSPitLappy> Keripo1, it's called an IRC network... 00:24 < BleuLlama> hehe 00:24 -!- Drgb_ [n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:26 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, port vortex 00:26 < BHSPitLappy> except make it free 00:26 < BHSPitLappy> it'll draw customers to your paid apps 00:28 < BleuLlama> i was actually gonna port wumpus 00:28 < BleuLlama> redo it so you swipe up/down/left/right to move 00:28 < BleuLlama> but yeah. Vortex (which will have to have a different name) could have rotation support, with autofire 00:28 < BleuLlama> tis a good idea though 00:28 < BleuLlama> :) 00:35 -!- Keripo1 [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:54 -!- Apsu [n=yana@host-69-59-82-91.nctv.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < Apsu> Hello. Anyone here? 01:16 < BHSPitLappy> no 01:16 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, I hate that stinking wumpus! 01:16 < Apsu> Interesting way to lack presence. With the talking and all ;P 01:16 < BleuLlama> heh 01:21 < Apsu> So... is there a mirror up to grab your latest installer? (5G 30GB black, if it's relevant) 01:21 < jerl92> hi 01:21 < Apsu> 'lo 01:22 < jerl92> apsu: you want a installer 01:23 < Apsu> I would imagine so, yes. Did some digging around before I came here, most of what I found was 4+ years old. 01:25 < jerl92> try http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/installers/installer2-win-network-patched-svn-r2394.zip 01:25 < Apsu> Is the "win" in that indicative of it being a Windows based PE installer? 01:25 < Apsu> I'm on Linux at the moment. I could Wine it, if that's all there is 01:25 < jerl92> ha! ok 01:26 < Apsu> :D 01:26 < jerl92> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/installers/ipodlinux-installer-2.31l-r2394.tar.gz 01:26 < jerl92> for x86 01:27 < Apsu> Awesome. 01:27 < Apsu> I think this iPod was completely wiped and just used for data storage. It's got a single FAT32 on it. Will your installer rebuild the partitions as it needs, or should I be doing it by hand...? 01:28 < Apsu> I presume the Apple firmware isn't required 01:29 < jerl92> i dont no ist it will work but i nerver test o instal linux without apple f/w 01:30 < BleuLlama> correct, the apple firmware is not required 01:30 < jerl92> yes but the boot loder 01:30 < BleuLlama> just be aware though - the built-in usb driver (needed to put files onto it -- disk mode) runs at USB 1 speeds. if you leave apple firmware on there, you can boot to it, and use it at USB 2.0 speeds 01:31 < Apsu> Interesting. 01:32 < Apsu> So it would behoove me to... "restore" it with iTunes and then install ipodlinux 01:33 < jerl92> yes 01:33 < Apsu> In order to retain the Apple firmware and boot-loader. 01:33 < Apsu> Cool 01:34 < BleuLlama> i'd suggest that, yes 01:34 < BleuLlama> even if you only use appleos to copy files. 01:35 < Apsu> Yeah 01:44 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:16 < Apsu> Still around, jerl92? 02:16 < BHSPitLappy> Apsu, you seem to be comfortable with using linux 02:16 < Apsu> BHSPitLappy, quite. 02:16 < BHSPitLappy> might I suggest foregoing the Installer and installing manually 02:16 < Apsu> Would love to. Especially since it's telling me that my type is unsupported. 02:17 < BleuLlama> which ipod do you have? 02:17 < BHSPitLappy> it isn't difficult, and you'll get familiar with iPL faster that way 02:17 < Apsu> 5g video, 30GB, black 02:17 < BleuLlama> yeah. you're good to go with that. :) 02:17 < Apsu> Good deal. Give me the rundown, BHS? 02:18 < Apsu> I looked into RhythmBox but it feels a little too inscrutable. Much like a BSD. I prefer the Linux approach 02:18 < BHSPitLappy> Apsu, basically, partition the thing, extract the userland in your ext partition, and write your bootloader of choice to the device 02:18 < BHSPitLappy> you mean Rockbox? 02:19 < Apsu> Pardon, yes, lol 02:19 < Apsu> RhythmBox, lulz. 02:19 < BHSPitLappy> rockbox is pretty nice. Once you've installed your bootloader, trying it out would be a drop-in procedure. But I digress. 02:19 < Apsu> Mm. Worth exploring. 02:20 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 02:20 < BHSPitLappy> (When I say drop-in, I literally mean just extracting its directory to your FAT partition) 02:20 < Apsu> So, the userland archive is floating around somewhere, I presume. My first question is the partition layout. 02:20 < Apsu> (Ah. Handy.) 02:21 < BHSPitLappy> There's a guide to the entire manual install process on the wiki, but in light of the current hosting situation I'll just hook you up with the Google cache. 02:21 < BHSPitLappy> http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:1WIZV2hdMhQJ:ipodlinux.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DManual_Installation%26redirect%3Dno+ipodlinux.org/Manual_Installation&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a 02:22 < jerl92> ho i mist somting 02:22 < BHSPitLappy> Apsu, basically, you're good just by shrinking your FAT partition down a bit and tossing an ext parttion at the end. 02:22 < BHSPitLappy> s/parttion/partition/ 02:23 < Apsu> Interesting. 02:24 < BHSPitLappy> jerl92, is English not your native language? It's like you just bang at the keyboard 02:24 < BHSPitLappy> I seem to recall Quebec being one of the french-speaking ones 02:24 < jerl92> BHSPitLappy, ha ha ha yes im french 02:25 < jerl92> and i come from quebec 02:25 < Apsu> These links are going to be mildly useless, though. 02:40 < Apsu> I'm off for now. Thanks for the assistance. Got an early flight out of town, etc. I'll probably be back in a few days if I need more guidance. 02:42 -!- Apsu [n=yana@host-69-59-82-91.nctv.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:42 < jerl92> BHSPitLappy; -_- 03:18 -!- fdinel [n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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I thought it was an entire new port 19:17 < BleuLlama> Prow: which version of MAME did yo ustart with? 19:17 < BleuLlama> Keripo: and yes, Prow's version is FAR superior to the one that I and Imphasing did a few years back 19:18 < Prow> no, I just revised the existing ipodmame source, added scaling and added all the games (that exist for v.18) into the build 19:18 < BleuLlama> aaah. cool 19:18 < BleuLlama> i should just add you on as a developer for the existing project, and then you can just check in the changes 19:19 < BleuLlama> if i could remember where the heck i had it hosted 19:19 < Prow> if only i could get my ipod open :/ 19:19 < BleuLlama> heh 19:19 < Keripo> BleuLlama: Here's all of Prow's changes batched up as one patch scripts and cleaned up a bit: https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/packs/Emulators/iPodMAME/src/patches/iPodMAME-Prow-All.patch 19:20 * BleuLlama notes it 19:21 < Keripo> theres two or three sections where lines are accidentally resorted/reordered without actually changing anything but I don't feel like recreating the patch file ;P 19:22 < Keripo> either way, the patch script should apply cleanly with what you have in SVN 19:23 < Keripo> The modified ini file I use is here: https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/packs/Emulators/iPodMAME/src/release/ZeroSlackr/opt/Emulators/iPodMAME/Conf/ipodmame.ini 19:23 < Prow> Keripo: last I saw I thought your build wasn't scaling? you got it working now? 19:24 < Keripo> oh, yeah, I had accidentally miscopied a section of your original patch files 19:24 < BleuLlama> i've switched machines a few times and seem to not have that source tree anymore. i don't even rememner where it was hosted from at this point 19:24 < BleuLlama> i'm a mess 19:24 < Keripo> http://opensvn.csie.org/ipodmame 19:25 < Keripo> the patch also has a single ZeroSlackr-specific line (looks for config file in "/opt/Emulators/iPodMAME/Conf") but if you don't mind overlooking that, that'll be a great help (as I wont have to apply patches over SVN) ; ) 19:26 < BleuLlama> oh, no that's great. 19:26 < BleuLlama> i'll peek at it tonight 19:27 < Prow> actually I think in the ini I think you could just setup a screen mode to AUTO SCALE_ASPECT FAST, and with input INTERNAL I think all upright games will be upright - no special sections needed 19:34 < Prow> I don't know if any games actually need rotated on video, so using AUTO would be better for a universal default ini :) 19:39 -!- rvvs89 [n=rvvs89@pdpc/supporter/active/rvvs89] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:41 -!- rvvs89 [n=rvvs89@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au] has joined #ipodlinux 19:41 < BleuLlama> yeah. i went a little batty when i worked on it last, adding lots of things that just confused everything and didn't really help anyone 19:49 -!- snoh [n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:26 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host95-85-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 20:51 < Prow> sweet, new ipod battery is installed and my photo is back to life :D 21:01 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@cs181213202.pp.htv.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 21:01 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@cs181213202.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 21:01 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.204.142] has joined #ipodlinux 21:02 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.204.142] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:06 < BleuLlama> Prow: yay! 21:14 < Prow> wow, I could get a 1200mAh battery, the one I bought today is only 750, but then I got it for $4 (clearance sale) 21:23 < Keripo> BleuLlama: When you said "batty", were you also referring to the input settings in the ini file? Cause just trying to understand that makes my head hurt (I really can't follow how to customize that at all) 21:37 -!- snoh [n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:27 < Keripo> added in scaling and blending code to iAtari800 - now I just need to add in COP and the emulator should be perfect and full-speed 22:28 -!- CaptainKewl [n=jason@207-237-173-165.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < Keripo> probably wont go about modifying the menu though - too many things on there I'm unsure about keeping/removing 22:30 < Keripo> it would have helped a lot though if I had ever even seen an Atari before ; ) 22:30 < Keripo> but I suppose emulators are part of what keeps the old stuff alive ; P 22:43 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host95-85-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:51 < BleuLlama> Keripo: correct. 22:51 < BleuLlama> i thought i was designing something smart, but it was really stupid 22:56 -!- Sir-Taco [n=Miranda@76-14-118-116.rk.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 < Sir-Taco> Hi, I've been around ipl since the first nano builds began, ummmm, what happened to the site, i know they were moving it, but has anyone heard any activity in the past month? 23:21 < Prow> Keripo: see http://pastebin.ca/1090266 for perhaps a better ipodmame.ini that uses AUTO by default, since input is INTERNAL this will work well and won't force rotation to video owners if the game will fit upright :) 23:47 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-136-004.tbwil.ch] has quit ["Say What?"] --- Log closed Sat Aug 02 00:00:00 2008