--- Log opened Fri Aug 01 00:00:02 2008
00:03 < Keripo1> Cady: Thats a bit offtopic here
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00:05 < Keripo1> the iPhone/iPod Touch IRC is somewhere on OSx86 net/area/section/group/whatever-you-call-it
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00:24 < BHSPitLappy> iphun.osx86.hu #itouch
00:24 < BHSPitLappy> Keripo1, it's called an IRC network...
00:24 < BleuLlama> hehe
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00:26 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, port vortex
00:26 < BHSPitLappy> except make it free
00:26 < BHSPitLappy> it'll draw customers to your paid apps
00:28 < BleuLlama> i was actually gonna port wumpus
00:28 < BleuLlama> redo it so you swipe up/down/left/right to move
00:28 < BleuLlama> but yeah. Vortex (which will have to have a different name) could have rotation support, with autofire
00:28 < BleuLlama> tis a good idea though
00:28 < BleuLlama> :)
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01:12 < Apsu> Hello. Anyone here?
01:16 < BHSPitLappy> no
01:16 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, I hate that stinking wumpus!
01:16 < Apsu> Interesting way to lack presence. With the talking and all ;P
01:16 < BleuLlama> heh
01:21 < Apsu> So... is there a mirror up to grab your latest installer? (5G 30GB black, if it's relevant)
01:21 < jerl92> hi 
01:21 < Apsu> 'lo
01:22 < jerl92> apsu: you want a installer
01:23 < Apsu> I would imagine so, yes. Did some digging around before I came here, most of what I found was 4+ years old.
01:25 < jerl92> try http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/installers/installer2-win-network-patched-svn-r2394.zip
01:25 < Apsu> Is the "win" in that indicative of it being a Windows based PE installer?
01:25 < Apsu> I'm on Linux at the moment. I could Wine it, if that's all there is
01:25 < jerl92> ha! ok
01:26 < Apsu> :D
01:26 < jerl92> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/installers/ipodlinux-installer-2.31l-r2394.tar.gz
01:26 < jerl92> for x86
01:27 < Apsu> Awesome.
01:27 < Apsu> I think this iPod was completely wiped and just used for data storage. It's got a single FAT32 on it. Will your installer rebuild the partitions as it needs, or should I be doing it by hand...?
01:28 < Apsu> I presume the Apple firmware isn't required
01:29 < jerl92> i dont no ist it will work but i nerver test o instal linux without apple f/w
01:30 < BleuLlama> correct, the apple firmware is not required
01:30 < jerl92> yes but the boot loder 
01:30 < BleuLlama> just be aware though - the built-in usb driver (needed to put files onto it -- disk mode) runs at USB 1 speeds.  if you leave apple firmware on there, you can boot to it, and use it at USB 2.0 speeds
01:31 < Apsu> Interesting.
01:32 < Apsu> So it would behoove me to... "restore" it with iTunes and then install ipodlinux
01:33 < jerl92> yes
01:33 < Apsu> In order to retain the Apple firmware and boot-loader.
01:33 < Apsu> Cool
01:34 < BleuLlama> i'd suggest that, yes
01:34 < BleuLlama> even if you only use appleos to copy files.
01:35 < Apsu> Yeah
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02:16 < Apsu> Still around, jerl92?
02:16 < BHSPitLappy> Apsu, you seem to be comfortable with using linux
02:16 < Apsu> BHSPitLappy, quite.
02:16 < BHSPitLappy> might I suggest foregoing the Installer and installing manually
02:16 < Apsu> Would love to. Especially since it's telling me that my type is unsupported.
02:17 < BleuLlama> which ipod do you have?
02:17 < BHSPitLappy> it isn't difficult, and you'll get familiar with iPL faster that way
02:17 < Apsu> 5g video, 30GB, black
02:17 < BleuLlama> yeah. you're good to go with that. :)
02:17 < Apsu> Good deal. Give me the rundown, BHS?
02:18 < Apsu> I looked into RhythmBox but it feels a little too inscrutable. Much like a BSD. I prefer the Linux approach
02:18 < BHSPitLappy> Apsu, basically, partition the thing, extract the userland in your ext partition, and write your bootloader of choice to the device
02:18 < BHSPitLappy> you mean Rockbox?
02:19 < Apsu> Pardon, yes, lol
02:19 < Apsu> RhythmBox, lulz.
02:19 < BHSPitLappy> rockbox is pretty nice.  Once you've installed your bootloader, trying it out would be a drop-in procedure.  But I digress.
02:19 < Apsu> Mm. Worth exploring.
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02:20 < BHSPitLappy> (When I say drop-in, I literally mean just extracting its directory to your FAT partition)
02:20 < Apsu> So, the userland archive is floating around somewhere, I presume. My first question is the partition layout.
02:20 < Apsu> (Ah. Handy.)
02:21 < BHSPitLappy> There's a guide to the entire manual install process on the wiki, but in light of the current hosting situation I'll just hook you up with the Google cache.
02:21 < BHSPitLappy> http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:1WIZV2hdMhQJ:ipodlinux.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DManual_Installation%26redirect%3Dno+ipodlinux.org/Manual_Installation&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
02:22 < jerl92> ho i mist somting
02:22 < BHSPitLappy> Apsu, basically, you're good just by shrinking your FAT partition down a bit and tossing an ext parttion at the end.
02:22 < BHSPitLappy> s/parttion/partition/
02:23 < Apsu> Interesting.
02:24 < BHSPitLappy> jerl92, is English not your native language?  It's like you just bang at the keyboard
02:24 < BHSPitLappy> I seem to recall Quebec being one of the french-speaking ones
02:24 < jerl92> BHSPitLappy, ha ha ha yes im french
02:25 < jerl92> and i come from quebec
02:25 < Apsu> These links are going to be mildly useless, though.
02:40 < Apsu> I'm off for now. Thanks for the assistance. Got an early flight out of town, etc. I'll probably be back in a few days if I need more guidance.
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02:42 < jerl92>  BHSPitLappy; -_-
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13:15 < Prow> great, was listening to Howard Stern on my ipod photo, it locked up and now I got the frownyface ipod icon when it tries to boot
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13:44 < BleuLlama> That'll teach ya for listening to Howard Stern
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18:39 < Keripo> wow, I rewrote the iAtari800 SDL port using hotdog and touch-based input and now its much faster
18:39 < Keripo> and I havent even added in COP code ^_^
19:01 < Prow> darn, anyone know of any tips for opening an ipod?
19:02 < BleuLlama> Prow: yes
19:02 < BleuLlama> one sec
19:02 < BleuLlama> you mean, physically cracking it open?
19:03 < Prow> yes, I have an ipod photo with I hope a dead battery... problem is the replacement battery didn't come with nice plastic ipod opening tool :/
19:03 < BleuLlama> http://newertech.com/support
19:03 < BleuLlama> under iPod Batteries, there are pdfs there
19:03 < BleuLlama> you can use a credit card or plastic thing like that instead
19:04 < Prow> cool, I was having a go with a credit card but no luck yet, thanks for the link
19:05 < Prow> I just hope it is the battery that is dead, otherwise I'll be out of ipodlinux dev as I'd be inclined to buy a new ipod
19:07 < Keripo> BleuLlama: You should commit Prow's changes to iPodMAME by the way
19:08 < Keripo> greater game compatibility + speed ups + fixed hold switch thingy = win
19:15 < Prow> argh!
19:17 < BleuLlama> wha? I thought it was an entire new port
19:17 < BleuLlama> Prow: which version of MAME did yo ustart with?
19:17 < BleuLlama> Keripo: and yes, Prow's version is FAR superior to the one that I and Imphasing did a few years back
19:18 < Prow> no, I just revised the existing ipodmame source, added scaling and added all the games (that exist for v.18) into the build
19:18 < BleuLlama> aaah.  cool
19:18 < BleuLlama> i should just add you on as a developer for the existing project, and then you can just check in the changes
19:19 < BleuLlama> if i could remember where the heck i had it hosted
19:19 < Prow> if only i could get my ipod open :/
19:19 < BleuLlama> heh
19:19 < Keripo> BleuLlama: Here's all of Prow's changes batched up as one patch scripts and cleaned up a bit: https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/packs/Emulators/iPodMAME/src/patches/iPodMAME-Prow-All.patch
19:20  * BleuLlama notes it
19:21 < Keripo> theres two or three sections where lines are accidentally resorted/reordered without actually changing anything but I don't feel like recreating the patch file ;P
19:22 < Keripo> either way, the patch script should apply cleanly with what you have in SVN
19:23 < Keripo> The modified ini file I use is here: https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/packs/Emulators/iPodMAME/src/release/ZeroSlackr/opt/Emulators/iPodMAME/Conf/ipodmame.ini
19:23 < Prow> Keripo: last I saw I thought your build wasn't scaling? you got it working now?
19:24 < Keripo> oh, yeah, I had accidentally miscopied a section of your original patch files
19:24 < BleuLlama> i've switched machines a few times and seem to not have that source tree anymore.  i don't even rememner where it was hosted from at this point
19:24 < BleuLlama> i'm a mess
19:24 < Keripo> http://opensvn.csie.org/ipodmame
19:25 < Keripo> the patch also has a single ZeroSlackr-specific line (looks for config file in "/opt/Emulators/iPodMAME/Conf") but if you don't mind overlooking that, that'll be a great help (as I wont have to apply patches over SVN) ; )
19:26 < BleuLlama> oh, no that's great.
19:26 < BleuLlama> i'll peek at it tonight
19:27 < Prow> actually I think in the ini I think you could just setup a screen mode to AUTO SCALE_ASPECT FAST, and with input INTERNAL I think all upright games will be upright - no special sections needed
19:34 < Prow> I don't know if any games actually need rotated on video, so using AUTO would be better for a universal default ini :)
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19:41 < BleuLlama> yeah. i went a little batty when i worked on it last, adding lots of things that just confused everything and didn't really help anyone
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20:51 < Prow> sweet, new ipod battery is installed and my photo is back to life :D
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21:06 < BleuLlama> Prow: yay!
21:14 < Prow> wow, I could get a 1200mAh battery, the one I bought today is only 750, but then I got it for $4 (clearance sale)
21:23 < Keripo> BleuLlama: When you said "batty", were you also referring to the input settings in the ini file? Cause just trying to understand that makes my head hurt (I really can't follow how to customize that at all)
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22:27 < Keripo> added in scaling and blending code to iAtari800 - now I just need to add in COP and the emulator should be perfect and full-speed
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22:29 < Keripo> probably wont go about modifying the menu though - too many things on there I'm unsure about keeping/removing
22:30 < Keripo> it would have helped a lot though if I had ever even seen an Atari before ; )
22:30 < Keripo> but I suppose emulators are part of what keeps the old stuff alive ; P
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22:51 < BleuLlama> Keripo: correct.
22:51 < BleuLlama> i thought i was designing something smart, but it was really stupid
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22:57 < Sir-Taco> Hi, I've been around ipl since the first nano builds began, ummmm, what happened to the site, i know they were moving it, but has anyone heard any activity in the past month?
23:21 < Prow> Keripo: see http://pastebin.ca/1090266 for perhaps a better ipodmame.ini that uses AUTO by default, since input is INTERNAL this will work well and won't force rotation to video owners if the game will fit upright :)
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