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01:05 < lnf> Can you use ipodlinux in a virtual ipod??
01:06 < lnf> I don't like messing up my 6th gen iPod
01:07 < lnf> hello?
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01:45 < Keripo> "O Canada!" PZ2 scheme added to ZS SVN
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02:02 < Prow> <Keripo> another trick is to make the COP do the screen updating <-- what did you mean by this? what is COP?
02:03 < GPT> Coprocessor
02:05 < Keripo> you may or may not want to do that though depending on the current speed of things
02:06 < Prow> ah, well it's certainly faster, I noticed there was way too much copying of frame buffers, so all I did is convert the 8 bit mame screen directly to the hotdog 16 bit framebuffer
02:06 < Keripo> If the emulator, for example, is running near/at full speed already, it might send another "update screen" signal before the first screen update is complete
02:07 < Keripo> I did that with my hDoom port and it caused the screen blitting to be really glitchy as hDoom was already running at full speed
02:08 < Prow> yeah, I could see that potentially being a problem with mame too...
02:08 < Keripo> but for something like igpSP, its very benefitial. Without using the COP for blitting stuff, graphics were perfectly smooth. With the COP, things were much, much faster (about 1/3 faster) but there were occassional random glitches in graphics
02:09 < Prow> also I made the screen rendering obey the visible area, which is nice when scaling down to smaller screens
02:09 < Keripo> thats why I said boost the CPU speed to see if any speed increases can be noticed. If nothing significant is, its already probably running at/near full speed
02:10 < Keripo> Prow: Sounds neat. Just remember to diff in the end so that the changes are easily distinguishable
02:11 < Keripo> MAM shouldn't have any speed problems with the older games but maybe with the higher up processors
02:11 < Keripo> *MAME
02:12 < Prow> I think it is close to full speed, but yeah, more testing to really be sure... the better test would be to see how video ipods work since the games don't need to scale down
02:13 < Keripo> MAME's screen is 320x240 and 16 bit?
02:13 < Prow> I'm not sure I have any desire to try getting a later version working, there is a good number of games in v.18 considering were talking about playing on an ipod :)
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02:14 < Prow> I think all the games are a bit less than 320x240
02:14 < BleuLlama> do you have sound working in MAME?
02:15 < Prow> haven't done any sound work, was first trying to just make it faster :)
02:15 < BleuLlama> :)
02:17 < Prow> is there an example for using the COP?  I could play around with that see if it runs any faster
02:18 < Keripo> Prow: https://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zeroslackr/packs/Emulators/igpSP/src/mod/ipod/
02:18 < Keripo> ipod_cop.c is what you want
02:19 < Keripo> call ipod_init_cop(); somewhere when you start hotdog's lcd stuff
02:19 < Keripo> replace "ipod_update_screen(); " in "ipod_cop_sync_screen()" with whatever updating function you use
02:20 < Keripo> and replace your previous screen updating function call with a call to "ipod_cop_update_screen() "
02:20 < Keripo> in igpSP, I have a function called "ipod_update_screen()" which does the scaling and then blitting
02:21 < Keripo> I just replace that with "ipod_cop_update_screen()" which envokes the COP to call "ipod_update_screen()"
02:21 < Keripo> the "ipod_exit_cop()" function has caused a few freezes on exit before so I just commented it out
02:22 < Keripo> my code is based off iBoy's COP code which was not used in the end
02:24 < Keripo> my igpSP port is the "has it all" example ; ) (cept I haven't written a pure-hotdog menu yet and I have no idea how to implement a screenshot function)
02:40 < Prow> so this is faster than just calling HD_LCD_Update()?
02:44 < Keripo> COP does the  calculations and its not in sync
02:45 < Keripo> so the main processor continues calculations while screen updates (no waiting for screen update to finish)
02:45 < Keripo> but the un-sync-ness can cause graphics to go screwy if the speed is too fast
02:45  * Keripo -> sleep. Night all.
02:45 < Keripo> Happy Canada Day to all other Canadians out there!
02:46 < Prow> ah, yeah, that may not be ideal for mame
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04:17 < billenium> Good job tyler_
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04:18 < tyler_> i need help
04:20 < tyler_> any 1 in here
04:21 < tyler_> damn
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04:46 < Dangalario> hi does ipodlinux support trackerformats?
04:47 < Dangalario> xm/mod/it/s3m etc?
04:47 < GPT> Not that I know of.
04:47 < Dangalario> hmm why not?
04:47 < Dangalario> considering linux supports them
04:48 < GPT> Linux doesn't support them... programs written for some distrobutions--not including iPodLinux--support them.
04:49 < Dangalario> oh i see
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04:50 < Dangalario> in other words neither rockbox år ipodlinux do have tracker support yet
04:50 < Dangalario> or even
04:50 < GPT> Don't think so.
04:50 < Dangalario> well didn't hurt to ask i'll be on my way now.
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07:12 < fiftysixer> hey
07:12 < fiftysixer> anyone know if I can install a linux kernel on my 1st gen ipod nano (I'm a winxp user, mainly)
07:12 < fiftysixer> or any *nix kernel tbh
07:20  * fiftysixer realized he should have googled more thoroughly first >.>
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09:05 < yangvnc> Do you have a problem with your ISP, becouse your website is down?
09:05 < GPT> The server is down, not the ISP
09:05 < yangvnc> do you have a substitute server?
09:06 < GPT> The website is currently being migrated to the new one.
09:06 < fiftysixer> is there a place i can download podzilla from?
09:06 < GPT> SVN
09:06 < fiftysixer> ok thanks
09:06 < yangvnc> ok, I could give access to a free webhosting if you need it
09:09 < yangvnc> GPT: do you know the ETA, when the website is going to be ready ? 
09:09 < GPT> I think someone may have said next week? But I'm not sure.
09:09 < yangvnc> ok, i wonder why it takes so long
09:10 < yangvnc> The usual mediawiki backup can be done within few hours
09:10  * GPT notes that there's also phpBB forums, although that's probably irrelevant
09:11 < fiftysixer> how long has the site been down?
09:11 < yangvnc> topic was last modified Tue Jun 17 17:05:04 2008
09:11 < yangvnc> so since then
09:11 < GPT> Before then
09:11 < GPT> Someone asked why the site being down wasn't in the topic, so BleuLlama broke our one year+ without changing it. D:
09:14 < fiftysixer> lol
09:14 < fiftysixer> and another question...
09:14 < fiftysixer> i'm looking for 'installer2', all SVN has is the source...do you know where i can download a win32 binary?
09:14 < GPT> Nope. :(
09:14 < fiftysixer> :(
09:14  * fiftysixer is too lazy to compile :p
09:15 < GPT> I can understand that. :P
09:15 < yangvnc> A website can be navigated through www.archive.org page, maybe you could place that in the topic
09:16 < fiftysixer> well, for now i'm trying http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/easily-install-ipodlinux-298345.php
09:16 < fiftysixer> if that doesnt work i'll start digging in svn
09:16 < yangvnc> http://web.archive.org/web/20070706003356rn_1/ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
09:17 < fiftysixer> oh nice...
09:18 < fiftysixer> http://web.archive.org/web/20070703084934/http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/installer/ipodlinux-installer-2.3w.zip
09:18 < fiftysixer> :)
09:19 < fiftysixer> i take that back.... http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/installer/ipodlinux-installer-2.3w-netless-20070107.zip  seems to be what i'm looking for
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12:51 < rvvs89> Win32 binary?
12:52 < rvvs89> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/installers/
12:52 < rvvs89> The top two are apparently working
12:52 < rvvs89> As they depend on ucc.asn.au rather than ipodlinux.org
12:54 < rvvs89> They are also a lot more up to date than the ones available from josh.sys-techs.com
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13:40 < Keripo> For the record, tracker format playback can be done eitther through MikMod or the XMP port
13:40 < Keripo> with the XMP port going to be updated as Claudio Matsuoka told me he'll be updating XMP soon ; )
13:40  * GPT makes note of that
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15:25 < BleuLlama> Keripo: a podzilla2 module?
15:25 < Keripo> ?
15:26 < BleuLlama> you mentioned XMP port
15:26 < Keripo> oh, I never ended up porting it to podzilla2
15:26 < Keripo> I suppose I could try
15:27 < BleuLlama> well, i just figured that for something like that it made sense to be in a podzilla module rather than a stadalone application
15:27 < BleuLlama> (integrated into the menu system like the way MikModule is
15:28 < BleuLlama> otherwise people are putting it into loader2 (which is fine for things like MAME) or launching the player app every time from pz2, which will fragment the hell out of memory
15:32 < skrapasor> hey are you close to finishing the website?
15:32 < skrapasor> i cant wait
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15:37 < BleuLlama> Something came up, and it's delayed a few days
15:49 < rvvs89> skrapasor: Anything in particular that you're looking for?
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16:26 < skrapasor> oh
16:26 < skrapasor> not really
16:26 < skrapasor> idk, it will just be better than looking at the web archive
16:45 < skrapasor> what is the best tutorial to install ipl manually?
16:45 < skrapasor> because you guys say a lot of the stuff on there is outdated
17:27 < fiftysixer> hey
17:27 < fiftysixer> http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-install-ipodlinux-on-your-ipod.html
17:27 < fiftysixer> ^i've seen similar instructions on a couple websites
17:27 < fiftysixer> but ever time i try it the ipod says 'cannot mount root fs'
17:27 < fiftysixer> anyone know why its doing that?
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17:30 < BleuLlama> you on a mac?
17:30 < fiftysixer> nope
17:31 < fiftysixer> i was trying that on a debian pc
17:31 < fiftysixer> and it's a windows-formatted ipod, if that helps any
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17:38  * riekal waves!
17:38  * Keripo wonders who the wave is directed to but waves back anyway ; )
17:38  * GPT waves also:
17:38 < GPT> \o
17:38 < GPT> |o
17:38 < GPT> \o
17:38  * GPT is done waving
17:39 < Keripo> after playing around with SBaGen's code all morning, I _finally_ managed to add in exit and volume control features
17:39  * fiftysixer suddenly found out why mkfs is a bad idea on a nano >.>
17:40 < Keripo> dumb SBaGen's main loop doesn't loop frequently enough so sometimes there's a 1-10 second delay (which kept throwing me off and making me think that it was my code that screwed up)
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18:22 < fiftysixer> hrmm
18:22 < fiftysixer> well i just completely broke this ipod >.>
18:29 < BleuLlama> pop it open or something?
18:29 < fiftysixer> thank god for itunes' restore thingy
18:29 < fiftysixer> since the install.sh script floating around for ipl seems to be useless
18:29 < fiftysixer> and running mkfs on the mess only made it worse :p
18:30 < BleuLlama> i don't know of an install.sh must 've been made by someone who was expecting things in a certain way without doing error checking
18:31 < fiftysixer> it says it installed ipl, but when i try to boot i get 'can not mount root fs'
18:31 < BleuLlama> right... it assumed things passed, when they did not
18:31 < fiftysixer> right
18:31 < BleuLlama> without seeing the install script you're talking about , nor knowing who made it or where you got it from, i can't really guide you at all.
18:32 < BleuLlama> not that i really have time to do so right now. :/
18:32 < fiftysixer> and then the IPL installer (windows) doesnt work, says 'something wrong with...SysInfo file'
18:32 < fiftysixer> no matter what i do
18:32 < fiftysixer> http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-install-ipodlinux-on-your-ipod.html
18:32 < fiftysixer> ^that install script
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21:59 < xsc0rchx> where can I download the latest version of ipodlinux?
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