--- Log opened Sun Mar 30 00:00:02 2008
00:00 < andy__> lol
00:00  * Keripo hears his name and the word "secret"
00:03 < andy__> yeah i have been trying to get this right for the last 2 days
00:05  * DerPapst was talking about that thing that starts with z and ends with r for a fast success :-P
00:06 < scorche> zipper?
00:06 < andy__> sounds like zipper
00:06 < andy__> lol
00:06 < GPT> zapper > zipper, IMO
00:06 < DerPapst> not quiet ;-)
00:06 < andy__> zapper
00:06 < andy__> interesting
00:06  * GPT is not quiet... GPT is LOUD. :P
00:11 < Keripo> andy__: want clues? ; )
00:12 < andy__> sure sure :) please
00:13 < Keripo> if a person is lazy, what can you call them?
00:13 < andy__> a bum
00:13 < andy__> couch potato
00:14 < Keripo> "bum" - hehe, didn't expect that ; )
00:14 < Keripo> (e.g. a *-er)
00:14 < andy__> hmm...er
00:14 < Keripo> e.g. if you are not doing your homework, its because you're a ____er
00:14 < andy__> procrastinatOR
00:14 < Keripo> "stop ___ing off!"
00:15 < andy__> Fu*ker?
00:15 < Keripo> here: _____er is the full number of letters
00:15 < Keripo> starts with an 's'
00:15 < andy__> slacker
00:15 < andy__> lol
00:15 < Keripo> yay!
00:16 < Keripo> now suppose you're _really_ lazy
00:16 < Keripo> what letter can you drop while keeping it sounding the same?
00:16 < andy__> l
00:16 < Keripo> (hint: what _vowel_ can you drop but still make the word sound the same)
00:16 < andy__> e?
00:16 < andy__> lol
00:17 < Keripo> hehe, "sacker" - not football here ; )
00:17 < Keripo> yay!
00:17 < Keripo> so now we have the "word" "slackr"
00:17 < andy__> ok
00:17 < Keripo> now if you are a slacker, how much effort will you put into things?
00:17 < andy__> none
00:17 < Keripo> now translate "none" into a number
00:17 < andy__> 0
00:17 < andy__> slak0r
00:18 < DerPapst> not that lazy
00:18 < Keripo> now that number as a word
00:18 < andy__> zero
00:18 < Keripo> yay
00:18 < DerPapst> combine
00:18 < Keripo> now add that to the first word you got
00:18 < Keripo> the lazy first word
00:18 < DerPapst> from the z to the r
00:18 < andy__> slackrzero
00:18 < Keripo> and because you're really lazy, ommit the space in between
00:18 < Keripo> (flip)
00:18 < andy__> zeroslackr
00:18 < Keripo> yay!
00:18 < Keripo> you deserve an easy install now ; )
00:19 < andy__> haha
00:19 < andy__> you're the man
00:19 < Keripo> go to the "Recent Announcements" subforum and look at the stickies
00:19 < Keripo> wow, that was quite a pleasant amusement ; )
00:19 < andy__> lol
00:19 < andy__> interesting
00:20 < andy__> now this has to be restored to a winpod
00:20 < andy__> before installing this
00:20 < Keripo> yeah - the kernel expects a winpod ; /
00:20 < andy__> ok
00:21 < andy__> awesome thank you soo much
00:21 < Keripo> ironicly, while iPodLinux first started on a MacPod and Apple = Mac, iPodLinux works better on Winpods than Macpods
00:21 < andy__> it should work
00:21 < andy__> if not, ill come back you can quiz me again :)
00:21 < Keripo> hehe, naw, don't worry, that was suffice ; )
00:21 < andy__> hehe
00:23 < Keripo> courtc: argh, now my kernel doesn't compile nicely >_<
00:23 < Keripo> fb.c:378: error: conflicting types for 'lcd_cmd_data'
00:23 < Keripo> fb.c:318: error: previous implicit declaration of 'lcd_cmd_data' was here
00:23  * Keripo investigates
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00:27 < Keripo> courtc: move "static void init_lcd(void)" down a few functions and then things compile fine
00:29 < Keripo> courtc: specifically, move the function right after "lcd_cmd_data" (or move "lcd_cmd_data", "lcd_send_hi", and "lcd_send_lo" up)
00:30 < Keripo> or, to be lazy, just add "static void lcd_cmd_data(int cmd, int data);" right above "static void init_lcd(void)"
00:32 < DerPapst> yay for prototyping
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00:33 < Keripo> (and thus begins the long journey of "make clean; make boot")
00:33 < DerPapst> can't you continue with make?
00:34 < Keripo> I did, but I'm making sure this time ; )
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00:35 < Keripo> ooow, right. I should upload my slax cd that has everything needed to compile iPL stuff all in one .iso
00:36 < Keripo> yup, just sticking in "static void lcd_cmd_data(int cmd, int data);" works fine.  You still have a bunch of "implicit declaration" warnings, but who cares - kernel building has more than enough warnings already anyway
00:37 < andy__> keripo how do i run the patch on my ipod?
00:37 < Keripo> oh no, you run it on your computer
00:37 < andy__> ooh
00:38 < Keripo> I guess I should make that clear ; /
00:38 < Keripo> hm, instructions seem clear enough with "Windows", etc.
00:38 < andy__> yeah 
00:38 < andy__> just wasnt sure if it was on the ipod
00:39 < andy__> so i would enter sudo ./patch
00:39 < Keripo> I think so
00:40 < Keripo> or patch.sh
00:40  * Keripo needs to create a ZeroSlackr wiki page, but first, flite and SBaGen!
00:40 < andy__> lol
00:41  * Keripo just keeps on getting sidetracked with small ports no-one cares about, like tar, etc.
00:41 < andy__> sudo ./patch.sh
00:41 < andy__> [: 7: ==: unexpected operator
00:41 < andy__> ./patch.sh: 7: ./ipodpatcher: Permission denied
00:41 < andy__> Press any key to exit . . .read: 11: arg count
00:42 < andy__> nm got it
00:43 < andy__> cool cool it works
00:43 < DerPapst> Keripo: iirc both got already ported and SBaGen by courtc
00:43 < andy__> nice background ;)
00:43 < Keripo> courtc: whoops, nevermind. I kept the old 2.4.32 patches and it changed
00:43 < andy__> kind of slow but works
00:43 < Keripo> DerPapst: yeah, I know. I'm just porting them myself so that I can add them to ZeroSlackr ; )
00:44 < Keripo> andy: 5G?
00:44 < andy__> 5.5
00:44 < Keripo> and yes, the background is awesome: it was an artwork I commissioned a long time ago and the full size version is just awesome ; )
00:45 < Keripo> yeah, I'd expect 5Gs and 5.5Gs to be slower
00:45 < andy__> like really slow
00:45 < Keripo> since they're hard-drive iPods and I've got a nano
00:45 < Keripo> is it unbearably slow?
00:45 < andy__> its like when the menu runs it will take a few seconds to flip
00:45 < andy__> the scrolling is a bit clunky
00:45 < Keripo> can you try switching to the "blackglass.cs" scheme and seeing if its significantly, significantly faster?
00:46 < Keripo> i.e. willing to give up such an awesome scheme for speed?
00:46 < andy__> lol
00:46 < DerPapst> settings > appearance > transitions
00:46 < DerPapst> switch them off.
00:46 < Keripo> DerPapst: but no transition is boring ; P
00:47 < Keripo> but yeah, try that and tell me what you think is the best blend
00:47 < DerPapst> but they're sloooooooow as hell on videos
00:47 < andy__> thats faster
00:47  * Keripo has a nano so Keripo doesn't care ; P
00:47  * DerPapst waits for someone to implement a cube transition
00:47 < Keripo> but if switching to blackglass really makes it faster, then I shall do so for the scheme defaults
00:48 < andy__> yeah it does make it quicker
00:48 < Keripo> but which is preferred: use no transition or use blackglass scheme?
00:48 < courtc> That seems improbable.
00:48 < andy__> no transition and blackglass works the fastest
00:48 < DerPapst> my vote goes for no transition on videos
00:48 < Keripo> yeah, but I want to keep one ; P
00:49 < Keripo> so no transitions rather than a scheme change?
00:49 < Keripo> i.e. does no transitions + moonlight scheme feel comfortable still?
00:49 < andy__> hmm i would say keep the transitions
00:49 < andy__> eh it was running real slow when i got it up
00:50 < Keripo> hm. DerPapst says kill transitions while andy says kill scheme... which do I chose?
00:50 < andy__> lol
00:50  * DerPapst pulls out his evil glance
00:51 < courtc> me says transitions.
00:51 < DerPapst> s/glance/eye rather :-P
00:52 < Keripo> andy: is no transitions but with the moonlight scheme comfortable?
00:52 < andy__> yeah seems to work well
00:52 < Keripo> hehe, sure then
00:52 < courtc> moonlight?
00:52 < andy__> yeah 
00:52 < andy__> that was a good one
00:52 < Keripo> nono, not "moonlight" courtc,
00:53 < Keripo> "awesome"
00:53 < Keripo> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29714
00:53 < courtc> oh.
00:53 < Keripo> courtc: why not just change the default in svn to no transitions?
00:53 < courtc> because.
00:54 < Keripo> thats a good reason - I'm satisfied ; )
00:54 < andy__> now i can use gtkpod to add my music and videos
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00:57  * andy__ is going to a night club tonight so thank you all for the ipod help ill be back soon
00:57 < Keripo> have fun
00:57 < andy__> will do
00:59 < DerPapst> pah... 2am is waaaay to early for a night club for me
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02:28 < CIA-47> courtc * r2408 /linux/2.4/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/audio.c: Fix sound level reading on the 5g. corresponds with r857. (#43)
02:29 < DerPapst> :-)
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03:53 < asm-> hey.. anyone laive
03:53  * GPT waves
03:53 < asm-> L)
03:53 < asm-> hi
03:53 < jerl92> hi
03:53 < jerl92> me a alwais here
03:53 < asm-> can anyone help me, im basically trying to use install some modules and schemes, im SICK of these start files that the website says to use if you're using Windows
03:54 < asm-> so i figured i need to load up my ipod on linux
03:54 < jerl92> for me no
03:54 < asm-> i booted from a knoppix CD and threw on my ipod - but i dont see any difference in the file system
03:54 < jerl92> me im using ltolls
03:54 < asm-> i dont see bin or usr folders
03:55 < asm-> on the ipod
03:55 < asm-> (modules go into usr folder, etc)
03:55 < jerl92> for a grat linux live cd use slax
03:55 < asm-> hmm
03:55 < asm-> so you think its knoppix problem?
03:55 < asm-> ipod is basically showing up the same as it would in windows
03:55 < DerPapst> how did you install iPL?
03:56 < asm-> on windows
03:56 < jerl92> installer 2
03:56 < asm-> nope
03:56 < asm-> installer 2 wouldnt recognize my ipod on windows
03:56 < DerPapst> how.. not what os :-P
03:56 < asm-> 5.5G
03:56 < asm-> the manager
03:56 < DerPapst> k.
03:56 < jerl92> 5.5g do not work with installer 2
03:56 < asm-> exactly
03:56 < asm-> i used the manager
03:56 < DerPapst> then you have to loop mount the linux.ext3 image
03:57 < DerPapst> in /ect on your ipod.
03:57 < asm-> right now im running knoppix on my laptop in my lap
03:57 < asm-> with ipod plugged in
03:57 < GPT> in /etc even
03:57 < asm-> wanting to install the modules and scehems directly into usr and bin folders
03:57 < asm-> but i dont even see them.
03:58 < DerPapst> yes.
03:58 < DerPapst> because you haven't mounted the linux filesystem
03:58 < jerl92> yes
03:58 < asm-> okay, can i do it from knoppix?
03:58 < DerPapst> give me a few seconds... i try to look up how to do that.
03:58 < asm-> a live cd, rather
03:58 < DerPapst> yes
03:59 < asm-> alright.
03:59 < jerl92> http://www.slax.org/
03:59 < asm-> yeah if you could please, cuz i dont know what you just said =)
03:59 < DerPapst> he already has knoppix
03:59 < asm-> jer: im already on knoppix, i dont wanna d/l and burn slax
03:59 < DerPapst> one live cd is enough :-P
03:59 < asm-> im a total linux newb
03:59 < asm-> so if you could guide me.. appreacite it
03:59 < jerl92> derpast: ok!
03:59 < DerPapst> try to figure out how to open the terminal meanwhile
04:01 < DerPapst> and type in:
04:01 < DerPapst> mkdir /mnt/ipod
04:01 < asm-> root terminal is asking me for a pw
04:01 < asm-> hm
04:01 < asm-> but it did open root shell
04:01 < DerPapst> isn't there a "normal" shell?
04:02 < DerPapst> i.e. not the root one
04:02 < asm-> okay i opened root shell
04:02 < asm-> and konsole terminal
04:02 < asm-> konsole terminal opened
04:02 < DerPapst> just stick to the konsole one
04:02 < asm-> k
04:02 < DerPapst> and do:
04:02 < DerPapst> mkdir /mnt/ipod
04:03 < asm-> lol..
04:03 < asm-> permission denied
04:03 < asm-> man live cds suck
04:03 < DerPapst> sudo mkdir /mnt/ipod then ;-)
04:04 < asm-> ok
04:04 < asm-> i guess that worked
04:04 < asm-> didnt affirm or deny anything
04:04 < DerPapst> good
04:04 < DerPapst> btw my linux knowledge is poor too.
04:04 < DerPapst> :-P
04:04 < DerPapst> do:
04:05 < DerPapst> sudo chmod /mnt/ipod 777
04:05 < asm-> chmod: invalid mode : '/mnt/ipod'
04:06 < DerPapst> cdn you do "cd /mnt/ipod"?
04:06 < DerPapst> *can
04:06 < asm-> man, u know, is there like a linux version of the manager
04:06 < asm-> ?
04:06 < asm-> yeah that worked
04:06 < DerPapst> ah well... 
04:06 < DerPapst> do "cd /"
04:07 < DerPapst> now, do you know where your ipod is located?
04:07 < asm-> i did cd / and typed dir
04:07 < asm-> it seems to be the knoppix cdrom
04:07 < asm-> yes the ipod is sdb2
04:07 < DerPapst> doesn't matter
04:07 < DerPapst> the former one
04:07 < asm-> /media/sdb2
04:07 < asm-> is ipod
04:07 < DerPapst> ah good :-)
04:08 < DerPapst> wait a sec.
04:08 < asm-> k
04:08 < DerPapst> try:
04:08 < DerPapst> mount -t ext3 -o loop,rw /media/sdb2/etc/linux.ext3 /mnt/ipod
04:08  * DerPapst crosses fingers
04:08 < asm-> nice lol
04:08 < asm-> k
04:09 < asm-> mount: only root can do that.
04:09 < DerPapst> bleh...
04:09 < DerPapst> add a sudo infront of it.
04:10 < asm-> wrong fs type
04:10 < asm-> bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
04:10 < asm-> blah blah blah
04:10 < asm-> im sure theres an easier way around this whole thing man
04:10 < asm-> lol
04:10 < asm-> ill dl slax if neccessar
04:11 < DerPapst> skip the -t ext3 part...
04:11 < DerPapst> sudo mount -o loop,rw /media/sdb2/etc/linux.ext3 /mnt/ipod
04:11 < DerPapst> only startfiles are easier. ;-)
04:11 < asm-> same error
04:11 < asm-> well if u want
04:12 < asm-> i can put it back on my pc and we can figure out why my start files arent working
04:12 < asm-> cuz i got podzilla2 up and running
04:12 < asm-> but
04:12  * DerPapst doesn't understand this
04:12 < asm-> i was trying to use iconUI
04:12 < asm-> and it didnt show up 
04:13 < DerPapst> i wonder if iconui still works with newer builds of pz2...
04:13 < DerPapst> and even if you have to enable it somewhere in settings
04:17 < asm-> hmm
04:17 < asm-> i dunno, i mean, its on the screenshots page
04:17 < asm-> i dont see why it wouldnt wokr
04:17 < asm-> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Podzillamenu.jpg
04:17 < DerPapst> because some menu related stuff changed in podzilla 
04:18 < asm-> my menu looks old and boring
04:18 < DerPapst> i'm not to sure either how to install modules using this installation method.
04:18 < DerPapst> *too
04:19 < asm-> do u use windows?
04:19 < DerPapst> iirc you have to drop them somwhere and add a line to a modules_enable.txt thing somewhere
04:19 < DerPapst> yes.
04:20 < asm-> u know what, maybe the start files are just out of date
04:20  * DerPapst notices that it is already 6:20am o.O
04:20 < asm-> cuz look at this file system setup
04:20 < asm-> the folder is userland
04:20 < asm-> not usr
04:20 < asm-> and inside there is modules/schemes/etc
04:20 < asm-> my knoppix is saying /usr/ doesnt even exist
04:20 < DerPapst> a bit different layout.
04:20 < asm-> maybe i wrote the start files wrong
04:21 < DerPapst> you wrote them for another "system setup"
04:21 < DerPapst> for the classic one with a seperate ext partition
04:23 < asm-> okay well
04:23 < asm-> im back in good old windows
04:23 < asm-> lets try to get a scheme or module runnin =)
04:23 < jerl92> ha windows use ltools
04:24 < DerPapst> jerl92: two reasons ltools won't work for him:
04:24 < jerl92> ha! ok ltools  wokrs grate for me
04:24 < DerPapst> 1. It's a 5.5G iPod and ltools doesn't like any other sector sizs then 512bytes.
04:25 < jerl92> hhaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
04:25 < DerPapst> 2. The ext filesystem is stored in a file (image) and ltools can't access that.
04:26 < DerPapst> and besides that i don't trust ltools. it messed up my filesystems several times.
04:26 < jerl92> ok! ist because me i have a nano
04:26 < DerPapst> evne then it wouldn'T work if you have used the same installation method :-P
04:27 < asm-> okay well
04:27 < asm-> i just ran ipodlinuxmanager again
04:27 < asm-> it looks like it creates that ext3 filesystem - who knows
04:27 < asm-> i wanted to start fresh
04:28 < DerPapst> drop the iconui module and all the pngs into /userland/modules/
04:28 < DerPapst> the pngs go into the iconui dir iirc
04:28 < asm-> lol what the bloody hell man
04:28 < asm-> windows isnt even recognizing my damn ipod now
04:28 < asm-> its saying its DVD Drive
04:29 < jerl92> >_<
04:29 < DerPapst> then open /iplconfig/modules_enable.txt and write iconui without a tailing space or newline
04:29 < asm-> im gonna restore it real quick.
04:29 < asm-> with itunes
04:29 < DerPapst> save and it should work
04:29 < DerPapst> if it doesn't i'm out of ideas.
04:29 < asm-> oh wait i know why, 
04:29 < asm-> hold up
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04:40 < asm-> derpapst: still alive?
04:40 < DerPapst> almost...
04:41 < asm-> okay
04:41  * DerPapst is somewhat tired
04:41 < asm-> im in windows now
04:41 < asm-> got everything freshly installed
04:41 < asm-> L:\userland
04:41 < DerPapst> k.
04:41 < asm-> is where my modules/schemes is at..
04:41 < asm-> now what do i wanna do.. ummmmm
04:41 < DerPapst> have you read what i wrote above?
04:41 < asm-> install some modules and schemes.
04:41 < asm-> yeah
04:41 < asm-> let me scroll up
04:41 < DerPapst> shemes are easy.
04:42 < DerPapst> just drag and drop them into /userland/schemes
04:42 < asm-> <DerPapst> drop the iconui module and all the pngs into /userland/modules/
04:42 < DerPapst> yes...
04:42 < asm-> so make /userland/modules/iconui
04:42 < asm-> then all the files in there?
04:42 < DerPapst> yes.
04:42 < asm-> or all the files within /modules
04:42 < asm-> l
04:42 < DerPapst> the Module file the .o files
04:42 < asm-> k
04:42 < DerPapst> and all pngs
04:43 < asm-> i have 53 folders already in /modules
04:43 < asm-> i dont see most of them though
04:43 < asm-> when i turn on ipod
04:43  * DerPapst has a setup with just :-P
04:43 < DerPapst> 8
04:43 < DerPapst> you have to enable them
04:44 < asm-> really
04:44 < DerPapst> this is the second part i wrote when you scoll up.
04:44 < asm-> i have to tpye each one
04:44 < asm-> in enable.txt?
04:44 < asm-> oh i can copy and paste them all
04:44 < DerPapst> yes and no
04:44 < asm-> what is the format
04:44 < asm-> like 
04:44 < asm-> module1
04:44 < asm-> module2
04:44 < asm-> in the text
04:44 < asm-> ?
04:44 < DerPapst> you'll probably make a mistake
04:44 < DerPapst> this file _absolutely REQUIRES_ unix newlines.
04:45 < DerPapst> otherwise you'll mess up your iPL installation
04:45 < DerPapst> so if you want to enable more then one module at a time you have to get a decent plain text editor befre.
04:46 < asm-> hmm
04:46 < DerPapst> e.g. notepad++ or notepad2 or proton
04:46 < asm-> i downloaded a custom ipodlinuxManager
04:46 < asm-> with like 50 modules in it
04:46 < asm-> but i was focused on iconui
04:46 < DerPapst> all those editors are free
04:46 < DerPapst> well then just focus on iconui
04:47 < DerPapst> but only enable one module at a time if you don't have a better text editor yet.
04:47 < asm-> ok
04:47 < DerPapst> sooo...
04:47 < asm-> how about schemes
04:47 < asm-> before i reset the ipod
04:47 < asm-> L:\userland\schemes
04:47 < DerPapst> you have /userland/modules/iconui now?
04:47 < asm-> yeah.
04:48 < DerPapst> and in there is what?
04:48 < DerPapst> just list a few files.
04:49 < asm-> i have nothing in schemes
04:49 < asm-> not a damn thing.
04:49 < DerPapst> i'm still asking about iconui
04:49 < DerPapst> schemes come after that
04:49 < asm-> oh okay
04:49 < asm-> iconui is set.
04:49 < asm-> should i try
04:49 < asm-> it?
04:49 < asm-> Alternatively if you have PZ2 already installed, drop the files (.cs file and any addons) in a folder with the name scheme
04:50 < DerPapst> in iconui should be several pngs a "Module" file and some others.
04:50 < DerPapst> correct?
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05:00 < asm-> well
05:00 < asm-> theres not several bro
05:00 < asm-> theres only 1 png
05:00 < asm-> 3 files only
05:00 < asm-> 1 png
05:00 < DerPapst> then you sould get the others.
05:00 < asm-> okay ill look for another one
05:00 < DerPapst> what'S the filename of the others?
05:01 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/images/4/48/Iconui-icons-standard.tgz
05:01 < asm-> can i use a tgz on windows?
05:01 < asm-> iconui.mod.o
05:02 < asm-> Module
05:02 < asm-> are other 2
05:02 < DerPapst> k, good
05:02 < DerPapst> yes. winrar can handle tgz
05:02 < asm-> whered u find that
05:03 < DerPapst> extract all pngs in the iconui dir.
05:03 < DerPapst> on the iconui module page.
05:03 < asm-> hmm
05:03 < asm-> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Special:Module?mode=get&module=iconui&version=1.4.1
05:03 < asm-> thats on modules page
05:03 < asm-> Icon UI Rebecca Bettencourt  Icon-based replacement UI. Please read wiki page.  (3 votes) 1.4.1 zip 
05:04 < DerPapst> then please read the wiki page, as she wrote :-P
05:04 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/iconui
05:04 < asm-> oh i see
05:04 < asm-> Standard Icon Set
05:04 < asm-> Manu's Icon Set 
05:05 < DerPapst> done extracting them?
05:08 < asm-> okay
05:08 < asm-> yep
05:08 < asm-> restarting now
05:08 < DerPapst> and you only had one single line int he modules_enable.txt?
05:09 < DerPapst> without tailing spaces?
05:09 < asm-> yeah
05:09 < asm-> iconui
05:09 < asm-> thats it
05:09 < DerPapst> mkay
05:09 < asm-> u know theres also a text with 
05:09 < asm-> modules_current.txt
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05:09 < asm-> they are all listed like i said in a big column
05:09 < DerPapst> yepps.
05:09 < asm-> module1
05:09 < asm-> module2
05:09 < asm-> etc
05:09 < DerPapst> ignore that file for now
05:11 < DerPapst> it should be one row though
05:11 < DerPapst> ;-)
05:11 < asm-> umm
05:11 < asm-> didnt work
05:11 < asm-> ERGHH IM GETTING MAD !
05:11 < asm-> i clicked on file browser
05:11 < asm-> guess what i see
05:11 < DerPapst> have you checked the settings menu?
05:11 < asm-> bin
05:11 < asm-> usr
05:11 < asm-> etc
05:11 < asm-> :(
05:11 < DerPapst> i know...
05:12 < DerPapst> check settings and settings > appearance
05:13 < asm-> no luck.. therse a handfull of color schemes
05:13 < asm-> but no iconui or anything
05:13 < asm-> hey let me umm
05:13 < asm-> try another module?
05:13 < DerPapst> then check the filebrowser.
05:13 < asm-> see if its a problem with iconui itself
05:14 < DerPapst> in there go to usr/lib/
05:14 < asm-> dude but why did it not show up in linux
05:14 < asm-> the usr and bin dirs
05:14 < asm-> on knoppix
05:14 < DerPapst> because you weren't able to loopmount linux.ext3
05:14 < asm-> oh ok.
05:16 < DerPapst> are you in iPLs file browser now?
05:16 < asm-> no, im back in windows.
05:16 < asm-> LTools (http://www.it.fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/software/ltools.html) - Get the .net application because its GUI is easier to use. It can access and copy the files from the iPod but has problems with directories. 
05:16 < asm-> Note 1: LTools doesn't work with 5.5G iPods. 
05:16 < asm-> damn.
05:16 < DerPapst> i said that.
05:16 < asm-> yeah i remember.
05:17 < asm-> Total Commander (http://ghisler.com/) has ext2 support (you have to install the Ext2+Reiser plugin (http://ghisler.com/plugins.htm#filesys) separately), Linux partitions can then be accessed from the Network Neighborhood. But it is read-only (due to security reasons), i.e. it does not let you modify files on the ext2 partition (and the tool does not even tell you when you try). 
05:17 < DerPapst> and i also said even it it wont work for you.
05:17 < asm-> wow what a fucking worthless 
05:17 < asm-> comment
05:17 < asm-> lol
05:17 < asm-> VMware workstation also works - You have to install a Linux distribution, then access the iPod from Linux. 
05:17 < asm-> Note: This doesn't work with VMware 4.5, but it works with VMware 5.5. 
05:17 < asm-> i tried that with VirtualBox - but FUCKING Ubuntu wouldnt install for the life of me
05:17 < asm-> it froze at 83 % every time
05:17 < DerPapst> don't quote me all the time
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05:17 < DerPapst> this is scary
05:18 < DerPapst> so are you in iPLs filebrowser now?
05:18 < asm-> no
05:18 < asm-> ill go there
05:18 < asm-> hold
05:18 < DerPapst> meh...
05:20 < asm-> VMware Workstation 6.0.2 for Windows
05:20 < asm-> eh?
05:20 < asm-> im in filebrowser
05:20 < DerPapst> k
05:20 < DerPapst> got to /urs/lib
05:20 < DerPapst> *usr
05:21 < asm-> yes iconui is there.
05:21 < asm-> and a buncha other crap.
05:21 < DerPapst> are the other 2 files there too?
05:21 < DerPapst> in the iconui dir
05:23 < DerPapst> you're there?
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05:23 < asm`> sorry
05:23 < asm`> yeah so
05:23 < asm`> the folder i transffered
05:23 < asm`> the only non .png is .DS_Store
05:23  * DerPapst considers going to bed soonish. it's arelady 7:23am here
05:24 < DerPapst> eh?
05:24 < DerPapst> no Module or .o file?
05:24 < asm`> no:(
05:24 < DerPapst> k...
05:24 < DerPapst> go one up
05:24 < asm`> they werent in the zip.
05:24 < DerPapst> select the iconui dir
05:24 < DerPapst> huh?
05:25 < DerPapst> you said that there was a Module and .o file already in there.
05:25 < asm`> no dude, the zip u told me to download
05:25 < asm`> looks like they didnt come with them.
05:25 < DerPapst> that were jsut some pngs
05:25 < DerPapst> not the module itsself
05:25 < asm`> those other 2 files, i deleted
05:25 < asm`> oh ok
05:25 < DerPapst> doh 
05:25 < DerPapst> ^^
05:25 < asm`> okay well u can go to bed
05:26 < asm`> tell me where to put the other 2 files
05:26 < asm`> the .0
05:26 < DerPapst> nope..
05:26 < asm`> and Module
05:26 < asm`> ill re-download what i deleted
05:26 < DerPapst> conect your ipod to your pc
05:26 < asm`> k
05:26 < DerPapst> and put the .o and the Module file in /userland/modules/iconui again
05:27 < asm`> 1.4 Dock UI uses menu font; icon caching enables speedups.   Aug 12 2006 
05:27 < asm`> i think i need this
05:27 < asm`> cuz look what 1.4.1 says
05:27 < asm`>  1.4.1 Very minor release; only necessary if 1.4 crashes podzilla.   Aug 13 2006 
05:27 < asm`> *for the other 2 files
05:27 < DerPapst> you need whatever is the lastest one
05:27 < DerPapst> so 1.4.1
05:28 < asm`> okay.
05:28 < asm`> is this only for this module
05:28 < DerPapst> then add iconui to modules_enable.txt again. (and again without tailing spaces and no newlines)
05:28 < asm`> that the png's and files are separate
05:28 < asm`> ?
05:28 < DerPapst> no, pu them all in the same dir
05:28 < asm`> i know
05:28 < asm`> i mean other modules..
05:28 < DerPapst> and leave the already donloaded pngs there
05:28 < asm`> they seem to have the neccesary pngos
05:28 < asm`> and .0 etc
05:28 < asm`> in 1 zip
05:28 < asm`> lol
05:28 < asm`> iconui is wierd
05:28 < DerPapst> huh?
05:28 < asm`> like
05:28 < DerPapst> you're confusing
05:29 < asm`> before i had those 2 files
05:29 < asm`> but was missing all the png's
05:29 < asm`> why are they in 2 separate downloads
05:29 < asm`> why cant there just be iconui.zip
05:29 < asm`> with everything u need
05:29 < DerPapst> becase... if rebecca makes a new release she doesn't want to put the same pngs into the arcive again.
05:30 < asm`> oh ok.
05:30 < DerPapst> that would waste bandwith and server storage
05:30 < asm`> okay. done and done.
05:30 < DerPapst> coolio
05:30 < asm`> hey.. my current.txt looks diff now
05:30 < asm`> aboutrnanimated_decornbluecubernbrowserrn
05:30 < asm`> calcrncalendarrnclocksrncub
05:30 < DerPapst> as i said.. ignore for now.
05:31 < asm`> kk
05:31 < DerPapst> reboot your ipdo
05:31 < asm`> k.
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05:34 < asm`> k   i think it worked.
05:34 < asm`> i see
05:34 < asm`> 'icon style
05:34 < asm`> 'icon cache'
05:34 < DerPapst> nice
05:34 < asm`> in appearance 
05:34 < asm`> but i dont know how to make it work now
05:34 < asm`> lol
05:35 < asm`> options are like
05:35 < asm`> small dock, magnifiny dock, etc
05:35 < asm`> maybe i have to set one
05:35 < asm`> and restart?
05:35 < DerPapst> well, play with the settings.
05:35 < DerPapst> iirc you don't have to restart
05:35 < DerPapst> this isn't windows :-P
05:37 < asm`> hmm
05:37 < asm`> well thanks for ur help, i dont see big icons yet, but im sure ill figre it out
05:37 < DerPapst> do you see any icons at all yet?
05:38 < DerPapst> just a quick note: to install schemes just extract the scheme into l:/userland/schemes
05:38 < DerPapst> they sould be gone the next time you look for them.
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05:38 < asm`> god DAMNIT
05:38 < asm`> nope, no icons
05:38 < asm`> but yo, go to sleep man
05:38 < asm`> its 8am
05:39 < DerPapst> not yet.
05:39 < DerPapst> :-P
05:39 < asm`> Dock is centered; Icon Size renamed to Icon Style; Large Table renamed to Large Array; Small Array, Small Dock, Magnifying Dock styles added. Finally one that compiles in the repository. 
05:39 < asm`> i see all these though.
05:40 < asm`> umm
05:40 < asm`> hey derpapst.
05:40 < DerPapst> well.. as i mentioned hours before.. there might be a possibillity that iconui doesn't work anymore with mre recent versions of pz2.
05:40 < asm`> the iconUI page says this
05:40 < asm`> IMPORTANT: Icons are maintained separately from Icon UI. You need to download one of the icon sets below and install them in /usr/share/ (or the root of your iPod if you're using Windows).
05:40 < asm`> we didnt put them there.
05:40 < DerPapst> uh.
05:40 < DerPapst> true
05:40 < asm`> back to windows =)
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05:41 < DerPapst> throw all the pngs (NOT the Module and .o file) into userland/schemes
05:41 < DerPapst> no wait
05:41 < DerPapst> don't do that :-P
05:41 < asm`> nah
05:42 < asm`> the pngs are fine
05:42 < asm`> in modules
05:42 < asm`> errrr
05:42 < asm`> !
05:42 < asm`> those files are fine
05:42 < asm`> in modules
05:42 < asm`> the pngos
05:42 < asm`> need to go in share
05:42 < asm`> iconUI = weird
05:42 < DerPapst> the pngs have to be somewhere else
05:42 < DerPapst> well, you can try to put them into the root of your fat32 partition
05:46 < asm`> IMPORTANT: Icons are maintained separately from Icon UI. You need to download one of the icon sets below and install them in /usr/share/ (or the root of your iPod if you're using Windows).
05:46 < asm`> FUCK
05:46 < asm`> i dont have a /usr
05:46 < asm`> dmanit
05:46 < asm`> lol
05:46 < asm`> do i have to make a start file
05:46 < DerPapst> but you have a root.
05:46 < asm`> or if i dump them in root, ipod will move them automatically?
05:46 < DerPapst> no, they will stay there
05:46 < asm`> oh.
05:47 < asm`> how will iconui know to look there?
05:47 < DerPapst> becuase rebecca told iconui to look there.
05:47 < asm`> hm
05:47 < asm`> k.
05:48 < DerPapst> iconui will check for /usr/share or the fat32 root.
05:48 < asm`> k, 
05:48 < asm`> trying ONCE AGAIN
05:48 < asm`> wow
05:49 < asm`> module_current.txt is blank again
05:49 < asm`> am i gonna have to do this every goddamn time
05:49 < asm`> lol
05:49 < DerPapst> eh?
05:49 < DerPapst> you shouldn't touch this file at all
05:49 < asm`> err
05:49 < asm`> no
05:49 < asm`> i meant
05:49 < asm`> module_enable
05:49 < asm`> was empty
05:49 < asm`> again
05:49 < DerPapst> nope
05:50 < DerPapst> it is supposed to be empty
05:50 < DerPapst> and you don't have to enter iconui anymore
05:50 < asm`> ok
05:50 < DerPapst> since it is already installed.
05:51 < asm`> so keep it or erase it
05:51 < asm`> im sick of rs the ipod im just gonna keep it in there.
05:51 < asm`> in the txt
05:51 < DerPapst> just leave the txt file empty.
05:51 < DerPapst> iconui is already installed.
05:51 < DerPapst> you don'T have to install it again
05:52 < DerPapst> once a module is installed it gets removed from modules_enable
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05:58 < asm`> well
05:58 < asm`> no luck yet..
05:59 < asm`> i mean the options are there
05:59 < asm`> but its not changing how the menu looks.
05:59 < DerPapst> that is odd.
05:59 < asm`> we said to leave the other 2 .0 and Module files in /modules/iconui
05:59 < asm`> right?
05:59 < DerPapst> it should at least show a cross next to each option incase the pngs are missing
05:59 < DerPapst> yes
06:01 < asm`> ). After changing this setting, you will need to restart podzilla for changes to fully take effect. 
06:01 < asm`> Icons can be located in four locations: 
06:01 < asm`> /mnt/icons/
06:01 < asm`> /hp/icons/
06:01 < asm`> /usr/share/icons/
06:01 < asm`> /usr/lib/iconui/icons/
06:02 < DerPapst> ahhhh
06:02  * DerPapst should read the wiki too.
06:02 < asm`> but i dont have any of those folders.
06:03 < asm`> is /mnt/ equal to the root
06:03 < DerPapst> put all pngs into a icons folder and place that either in userland/modules/iconui or l:/
06:03 < DerPapst> yes.
06:03 < asm`> right
06:03 < asm`> so root/icons
06:03 < asm`> : )
06:03 < asm`> i knew dumping a buncha pngs in root isnt pretty :)
06:03 < DerPapst> if you put them in the modules folder do the modules_enable.txt dance again
06:04 < DerPapst> if not you don't have to touch this file
06:05 < asm`> yeah k
06:06 < asm`> well u cant sleep yet, the excitement is hitting its peak : )
06:07 < DerPapst> it's too bright outside now anyways :-/
06:07 < asm`> where u from man?
06:07 < DerPapst> germany
06:07 < asm`> nice
06:08 < asm`> < US
06:08 < asm`> im paki though  : p
06:08 < DerPapst> guessed so ;-)
06:08 < asm`> lol
06:08 < DerPapst> the us part only though ^^
06:09 < asm`> wow
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06:09 < asm`> fucking thing keeps freezing
06:09 < asm`> going to red screen
06:09 < asm`> im trying to reboot
06:09 < asm`> lol
06:10 < DerPapst> just to make sure... you're choosing "reboot ipod" right?
06:10 < DerPapst> not just quit podzilla
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06:11 < asm`> another technical difficulty
06:11 < asm`> hitting Power is freezing the ipod
06:11 < asm`> or going to red screen
06:11 < asm`> i dont even have option
06:11 < asm`> to 
06:11 < asm`> go into power >
06:11 < asm`> and have those 4-5 options
06:11 < asm`> i think im gonna reinstall linux
06:11 < asm`> and do the iconui thing the right way from the start
06:11 < asm`> [12:09] <asm`> fucking thing keeps freezing
06:11 < asm`> [12:09] <asm`> going to red screen
06:12 < DerPapst> ah well... :-)
06:12 < asm`> well
06:12 < asm`> do power > options differ if its not plugged into usb?
06:12  * DerPapst should make a small not so heavily modded winpod only userland once the time allows that.
06:13 < DerPapst> not sure.
06:13 < asm`> it does.
06:13 < DerPapst> with some simple update instructions and stuff.
06:13 < asm`> my power button freezes ipod
06:14 < asm`> if usb inst plugged in
06:14 < asm`> after i plugged in usb
06:14 < asm`> i got power > menue
06:14 < asm`> to reboot ipod
06:14 < asm`> umm, thats frozen though.
06:14 < asm`> no more tasks for init -- sleeping forever.
06:14 < asm`> i have to menu + middle button
06:14 < asm`> maybe i have a bad linux install
06:14 < asm`> cuz i downloaded a homebrew ipodlinux manager
06:15 < DerPapst> where did you get that from?
06:15 < asm`> forums
06:15 < asm`> ipodlinux forums
06:16 < asm`> honestly it should be fine, but i did notice it freezes a lot, it could be something else though 
06:16 < DerPapst> i guess it just has lots of outdated components.
06:17 < asm`> oh my Lord.
06:17 < asm`> i think iconUI isnt compatible or something.
06:17 < asm`> after loading bar
06:17 < asm`> everything is blank
06:17 < asm`> all white
06:17 < asm`> just says podzilla
06:17 < DerPapst> heh
06:18 < DerPapst> i really have no idea if iconui works with current podzilla versions
06:18 < asm`> u dont use it?
06:18 < asm`> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Iconui-main.png
06:18 < asm`> this pic just looks sexy to me.
06:18 < DerPapst> http://rvvs89.ucc.asn.au/ipl/nightly/xpod-iconui.tar.gz
06:18 < DerPapst> try this one
06:19 < DerPapst> if that doesn't work either forget about iconui for now :-P
06:19 < asm`> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=236008&sid=80bdb4d8d94c22a6ed207103c7d623d3
06:19 < asm`> same problem
06:20 < DerPapst> well try that build i gave you the link to
06:20 < asm`> hm
06:20 < asm`> ok.
06:20 < asm`> why u think itll work
06:20 < DerPapst> if that doesn't work get a book about C and try to help fixing iconui ;-)
06:21 < asm`> lol
06:21 < asm`> <3
06:21 < DerPapst> too lzy to explain... basically the pz api is newer.
06:22 < asm`> hmm
06:22 < asm`> Default.png
06:22 < asm`> in modules/iconui
06:22 < asm`> or mnt/icons
06:22 < asm`> ?
06:22 < asm`> it didnt work with
06:22 < asm`> err
06:22 < asm`> right now = no png in modules
06:23 < DerPapst> just keep everything where it is.
06:23 < asm`> kl
06:23 < asm`> im guessing i have to enable
06:23 < asm`> the txt
06:23 < asm`> ?
06:23 < asm`> since i played with the modules folder
06:23 < DerPapst> if Default.png is in iconui/ leave it there
06:24 < asm`> it wasnt..
06:24 < DerPapst> yes.
06:24 < DerPapst> add it again
06:24 < asm`> hmm
06:24  * DerPapst slaps DataGhost for this enable/disable stuff
06:24 < asm`> default.png was already with all the rest of the icons.
06:25 < asm`> so
06:25 < asm`> i didnt put it in modules/iconui
06:25 < asm`> and i restarted 
06:27 < asm`> well
06:27 < asm`> now ipod wont boot
06:27 < asm`> frozen at 'finishing up'
06:28 < DerPapst> meh
06:28 < asm`> okay man well im gonna run the ipodlinuxmanager thats on the website..
06:28  * DerPapst gives up.
06:28 < asm`> this homebrew version includes like 90 modules
06:28 < asm`> u know?
06:28 < DerPapst> i have to test that myself.
06:28 < asm`> nah its all good thx for the hel
06:28 < asm`> help
06:28 < asm`> ill let u know
06:28 < asm`> the results
06:28 < asm`> u stay with thsi nick?
06:28 < DerPapst> but my ipod is in a semi-broken state
06:28 < DerPapst> and it would take too mucht time and dispace (i don't have) to fix it.
06:29 < DerPapst> yes.
06:29 < DerPapst> *diskspace
06:30  * DerPapst shouldn't type while half asleep :-P
06:30 < asm`> Miche's iPod Linux Installer features: 
06:30 < asm`> * Is crap 
06:30 < asm`> * Installs invalid data onto your iPod 
06:30 < asm`> * May cause unwanted/unexpected data loss 
06:30 < asm`> * Linux will typically stop functioning within two weeks. 
06:30 < asm`> lol.. thats the one i have.
06:31 < DerPapst> no, not really.
06:31 < DerPapst> you have used the iPodLinux Manager
06:31 < DerPapst> i thought i have removed all links to it already.
06:31 < DerPapst> the miche installers
06:31 < DerPapst> can you show me a link?
06:32 < asm`> i dont remember where i got the link form.
06:32 < asm`> no bro, i didnt use the manager from the wiki.
06:32 < DerPapst> well you just copy/pasted something here
06:32 < asm`> Miche's iPod Linux Installer for 5.5G [http://miche.aqua-gero.com/5.5g/] 
06:32 < DerPapst> where do you copy that from?
06:33 < asm`> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28495&highlight=
06:35 < DerPapst> fixed :-P
06:36  * DerPapst removed the link
06:37 < DerPapst> and i'm pretty sure you used the iPL manager and not miches crap
06:37 < asm`> why do you think so?
06:38 < DerPapst> because the userland folder and iplconfig aren't installed with miches installer
06:38 < asm`> oh.
06:38 < asm`> shieeet.
06:38 < asm`> well then its full of bugs like a mofo
06:39 < asm`> here, q for you
06:39 < asm`> if i install ubuntu on my computer
06:39 < asm`> will i have to do that crazy mount shit
06:39 < asm`> or will i able to just acess the ipod regularly
06:39 < asm`> (not liveCD like knoppix)
06:40 < DerPapst> you'll be able to access the fatpartition regularly but not the ext3 image
06:40 < DerPapst> you need to mount that.
06:40 < asm`> bleh
06:40 < asm`> how comes theres not good documentation on mounting it
06:40 < DerPapst> not sure what ent wrong though
06:40 < asm`> Then mount your iPod's data partition and root partition (not the boot partition): 
06:40 < asm`> # mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod
06:40 < asm`> # mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /mnt/ipod_root
06:41 < DerPapst> users wanting to mount it are "smart" enough to do so without needing lots of docs ;-P
06:41 < DerPapst> this is about mounting *real* partitions
06:41 < DerPapst> you have to mount an image.
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06:42 < DerPapst> comparable to a cd iso on windows with deamon #tools
06:47 < asm`> well
06:47 < asm`> whatever i was using
06:47 < asm`> it wasnt the one on the wiki bro
06:47 < asm`> u know why?
06:47 < asm`> i just installed the one on the wiki.. and i got error of 'unable to connect to mpd'
06:47 < asm`> i never got that b4
06:47 < DerPapst> hm.
06:48 < DerPapst> you can disable that within modules_disable.txt
06:48 < asm`> it works bro.
06:48 < asm`> the icons work.
06:48 < DerPapst> add "mpdc" (without the quotes) to the disable txt
06:48 < DerPapst> woot
06:50 < asm`> but dont i need mpdc to play mp3s
06:50 < DerPapst> yes :-)
06:50 < asm`> okay then =)
06:51 < DerPapst> but i'd use the apple firmware or rockbox for music playback. MPD is a memory hog and doesn't play nice with other modules (e.g. icon ui)
06:51 < asm`> u mean go to Apple OS
06:51 < asm`> from bootloader
06:51 < asm`> ?
06:51 < DerPapst> yes.
06:51 < asm`> oh ok.
06:51 < asm`> question..
06:52 < asm`> now how do i enable the other modules
06:52  * DerPapst hides
06:52 < asm`> now that i got iconui set
06:52 < DerPapst> you add them to the enable txt
06:52 < asm`> oh ok
06:52 < asm`> just once?
06:52 < DerPapst> but you have to use a better editor inorder to enable more then one
06:52 < DerPapst> at a time
06:52 < DerPapst> yes, only once
06:52 < asm`> wordpad
06:53 < DerPapst> no
06:53 < DerPapst> not good enough
06:53 < DerPapst> you need notepad++, notepad2 or proton
06:53 < asm`> wtf does it matter
06:53 < DerPapst> all 3 are free
06:53 < asm`> im confused
06:53 < DerPapst> it does
06:53 < asm`> how do i know whats the right way to compile it
06:53 < asm`> can u do it 4 me
06:54 < DerPapst> if you don't use better editors you'll mess up the linux installation
06:54 < DerPapst> it doesn't like windows' newlines
06:54 < asm`> okay so if im in notepad++
06:54 < asm`> same thing just paste from modules_Current
06:54 < asm`> ?
06:54 < DerPapst> what?
06:54 < DerPapst> compile?
06:54 < asm`> like
06:54 < asm`> i just have to paste
06:54 < DerPapst> no... you nver have to touch the current.tx
06:54 < asm`> from current.txt to enable.txt
06:54 < asm`> but
06:55 < asm`> just in notepad2
06:55 < asm`> or ++
06:55 < DerPapst> download the better notepad, open the enable.txt and add every module seperated with newlines you want to have.
06:56 < DerPapst> and make sure you save the text in  UNIX format.
06:57 < asm`> every module separated with newlines..
06:57 < asm`> thats not how it is in current though
06:57 < DerPapst> it is.
06:57 < asm`> aboutrnanimated_decornbluecubernbrowserrncalcrn
06:57 < asm`> thats current
06:57 < DerPapst> but windows' text tools are to stoopid to show linux newlines.
06:58 < DerPapst> trust me, there are newlines.
06:58 < asm`> i just opened it with notepad++
06:58 < asm`> its all on 1 line
06:58 < DerPapst> hum.. that shouldn't happen. though it's not a problem
07:00 < asm`> hold on.
07:01 < asm`> sweet.
07:01 < asm`> it didnt work
07:01 < asm`> i posted it all on 1 line
07:01 < asm`> in enable.txt lol
07:01 < DerPapst> doh....
07:01 < asm`> also the disable for mpdc didnt work
07:01 < asm`> i think its just mpd.
07:01 < DerPapst> i told you that his doesn't work
07:01 < DerPapst> mpdc is giving that error message
07:05 < asm`> so, how will enable them my nazi friend
07:05 < asm`> ?
07:05 < DerPapst> pffffffft
07:06 < DerPapst> read the README.txt in /iplconig
07:06 < DerPapst> it tells you how to deal with the 3 txt files.
07:06 < asm`> alright
07:07 < DerPapst> basically you add every modulename separated with a UNIX newline to the enable txt.
07:07 < asm`> last thing
07:07 < asm`> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Loader2-5g.JPG
07:07 < asm`> how do u do that
07:07 < asm`> arent those apps
07:07 < asm`> why are they in the bootloader
07:09 < DerPapst> you can start apps via arguments passed to a binary called getLoader2Args
07:09 < asm`> ic.
07:09 < DerPapst> do you don't have to wait for pz2 to finish loading.
07:09 < asm`> id rather do that.
07:09 < asm`> is there any documeentation it?
07:09 < asm`> god it sucks being anoob
07:09 < DerPapst> the most important links are on the page containing this image
07:12 < asm`> so when im done listing each thing on 1 line
07:12 < asm`> i just select all, go to format > format to unix
07:12 < asm`> and save it?
07:13 < DerPapst> you are not putting everything on the same line
07:13 < DerPapst> every item has its own line
07:14 < DerPapst> and then you change it to unix and save it.
07:14 < asm`> .. the readme doesnt say nayhting about unix format
07:14 < asm`> :)
07:14 < DerPapst> it assumes it :-P
07:14 < asm`> oh ok
07:14 < asm`> : )
07:14 < asm`> so, do u do comp sci
07:16 < asm`> uh oh.
07:16 < asm`> is there a way to install schemes
07:16 < asm`> without a stupid start file?
07:17 < DerPapst> i told you that already 2 times now.
07:17 < asm`> well my L:\userland\schemes is EMPTY
07:18 < asm`> and theres a lot of schemes on my ipodlinux
07:18 < asm`> so
07:18 < DerPapst> check http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ipodlinux.log about 5:08am
07:19 < DerPapst> sorry 5:38am
07:21 < asm`> 04:42 < DerPapst> just drag and drop them into /userland/schemes
07:21 < DerPapst> yes :-)
07:22 < DerPapst> 05:38 < DerPapst> they sould be gone the next time you look for them.
07:22 < asm`> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9615
07:22 < asm`> :)
07:24 < asm`> okay question
07:24 < asm`> for Pacman
07:24 < asm`> it says
07:24 < asm`> To install the full compiled module - Download THE SOURCE, extract it, then extract the file "Compiled_Module_Folder.zip." Place all of its contents (22 files) to /usr/lib/pacman/ on your iPod. 
07:24 < asm`> will I treat it like other modules?
07:24 < asm`> or was iconUI built specially for us who cant acess linux partition of the pod
07:25 < asm`> in other wrods.. can i treat all the models from here on
07:25 < asm`> like i did iconui
07:25 < DerPapst> yes.
07:26 < DerPapst> notice that big parts of the loader 2.4 tut are outdated.
07:26 < DerPapst> and might even break your installation if you follow these instructions blindly.
07:30 < asm`> umm
07:30 < asm`> pacman showe dup
07:30 < asm`> but when i hit play pacman
07:30 < asm`> it just ists there for an hr
07:31 < DerPapst> never tried pacman myself.
07:31 < asm`> oh oops nm i isntalle dit wrong.
07:31 < asm`> To install the full compiled module - Download THE SOURCE, extract it, then extract the file "Compiled_Module_Folder.zip." Place all of its contents (22 files) to /usr/lib/pacman/ on your iPod. 
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07:34 < asm`> neway
07:34 < asm`> i hope i juist find someone who has a good current.txt
07:34 < asm`> cuz i dnt wanna type 70 single lines
07:34 < tbr281> anyone successfully install ipodlinux through linux OS
07:34 < tbr281> ?
07:35 < asm`> nope.
07:35 < asm`> not me.
07:36 < tbr281> :(
07:39 < asm`> wow
07:39 < asm`> derp
07:39 < asm`> these apps are fucking terrible
07:39 < asm`> pacman runs at like 2fps
07:40 < asm`> i hit the left button an hour ago
07:40 < asm`> and he just went
07:40 < asm`> left
07:48 < asm`> aight bro der
07:48 < asm`> thx for ur help man
07:48 < asm`> im out
07:48 < asm`> ttyl
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08:13 < snow_white> yo
08:13 < snow_white> anyone alive, me needs the help
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08:59 < snow_white> i have ipod nano 3rd generation and i got this amazing issue; when i plug it on the computer i can load it with gtkpod and write on it, i see all files when browing its directory but when i unplug it and  browse with the ipod itself, theres nothing it says "no music".. i tried restoring and formating it but its not working, any idea 
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09:42 < BHSPitLappy> snow_white, gtkpod has a channel
09:43 < BHSPitLappy> this channel pertains to iPodLinux, a linux distribution FOR iPods.
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14:05 < Brent> Hi guys - I'm trying to install linux on my ipod... I'm running Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn.  I'm stuck on the ipodpatcher chmod step
14:06 < Brent> ipodpatcher wont pick up my ipod in disk mode
14:07 < Brent> ipod generation 5th gen - 80gig video ipod (black)
14:07 < Brent> it says "ask to pm" up above.... so... can i ask to pm?
14:07 < Brent> lol
14:08 < Brent> I'm a linux newb by the way...
14:11 < rvvs89> Well, the output of a cli program is typically very useful in determining why it isn't working
14:11 < Brent> cli program?
14:11 < rvvs89> command line
14:12 < Brent> ok, one sec
14:12 < Brent> well, this is what it tells me
14:12 < Brent> ipodpatcher v2.0 with v2.0 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
14:12 < Brent> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
14:12 < Brent> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
14:12 < Brent> [INFO] Scanning disk devices...
14:12 < Brent> [ERR]  No ipods found.
14:13 < Brent> although my ipod is connected and in disk mode.. or whatever its called
14:13 < Brent> im following the steps here: http://ipodlinux.org/Manual_Installation
14:13 < Brent> im up to 'locating your ipod' 
14:13 < rvvs89> Are you certain that your iPod is a fifth generation iPod?
14:13 < Brent> its an 80gig video ipod, and I read that an 80gig video is a 5th gen
14:14 < Brent> so that could be wrong
14:14 < rvvs89> 80 GB could be 5.5G or 6G
14:14 < Brent> oh.. ok
14:14 < rvvs89> http://ipodlinux.org/Generations
14:15 < Brent> "80GB iPod: This is a 5.5G (Fifth Generation Enhanced) iPod only."
14:15 < Brent> so i guess its a 5.5G?
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14:16 < rvvs89> Well, read the distinguish section of the 6G section to determine that
14:18 < Brent> ok, well on my ipod's box is has the 6G image, with nelly furtado on the ipod.. so i guess its a 6G... which means its not supported
14:18 < rvvs89> Right
14:18 < Brent> bugger
14:18 < Brent> well. thanks anyway
14:18 < Brent> so there's nothing much I can do?
14:19 < rvvs89> Nope
14:19 < rvvs89> Short of buying another iPod
14:19 < Brent> I thought installing linux on it might help the problem i was having - I've been using gtkpod to sync my ipod.  When I unmount my ipod though, it says that there are 0 songs on the ipod
14:20 < Brent> but when i plug it back in and it reads it, all the stores songs come up again...
14:20 < Brent> stored songs*
14:20 < rvvs89> I would ask in #gtkpod
14:21 < Brent> ok, thank you for the help, i appreciate it.
14:21 < rvvs89> No worries
14:21 < Brent> cya
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14:54 < LinuxPoser> hmmm, ephpod says my ipod is locked and to shut down itunes... and i dont even have itunes installed on my computer
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16:27 < asm> is there any module file browser that will allow me to delete a file
16:27 < asm> ?
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16:50 < courtc> asm: in file browser, hold action down on a item you want to delete.
16:50 < courtc> There should be a delete option.
16:53 < asm> ok
16:53 < asm> court: can you help me with a start file?
16:54 < asm> mv /mnt/scheme/* /usr/share/schemes
16:54 < asm> rm /mnt/scheme
16:54 < asm> somethin wrong there?
16:54 < asm> its not working
16:54 < asm> is it mvdir 
16:55 < asm> or rmdir ??
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17:00 < courtc> rm -rf /mnt/scheme
17:00 < asm> but i dont think the mv one worked either
17:00 < asm> what is -rf
17:01 < courtc> recursive, force
17:01 < asm> okay, its also not removing the start file
17:01 < asm> with rm /mnt/start
17:01 < asm> can i just addon -rf to everything
17:01 < asm> ?
17:01 < courtc> nope
17:02 < asm> just for directiroeis?
17:02 < asm> dirs
17:02 < courtc> if nothing is working, it's likely that your start file isn't getting executed.
17:02 < asm> why is that
17:02  * courtc shrugs
17:03 < asm> kk
17:06 < asm> without linux this shit is hell
17:07 < asm> i should just try to install damn small linux
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18:01 < Keripo> for the record, if you want loop-mount instructions, you can find them here:
18:01 < Keripo> http://zeroslackr.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zeroslackr/base/Userland/src/images/Loop-mount%20Instructions.txt?view=markup
18:01 < Keripo> particularly the "To mount and edit the image:" section
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18:23 < Keripo> hm, I'm trying SBaGen and it just seems to be skippy noise
18:23 < Keripo> is that how its suppose to be? ; /
18:25 < courtc> not skippy, but noise.
18:26 < Keripo> hm, seems to just play a bit of noise, pause for a split second, then resume the noise
18:26 < Keripo> maybe PZ2 is slowing it down or something ; /
18:31 < Keripo> hm, nope - guess its the .sbg file I'm testing - any recommended ones?
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18:51 < Keripo> bah, why does courtc's port work properly but mine doesn't >_<
18:51 < Keripo> (rather, why is my binary 400kb while his 150kb???)
18:52 < Keripo> courtc: do you remember what your compiling line was and which toolchain you used?
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18:56 < andy__> hey keripo
18:58 < andy__> do you use ogg vorbis rather than mp3?
18:58 < Keripo> courtc: bah, I'll just use your port >_<
18:59 < Keripo> andy: I use flac ; )
18:59 < andy__> whats that
18:59 < Keripo> google it ; )
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18:59 < andy__> k
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19:01 < andy__> interesting
19:01  * Keripo unfortunately only has a 2GB nano ; /
19:03  * andy__ has an 80 gig video
19:04 < andy__> can it play flac?
19:05 < Keripo> if you have rockbox
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19:06 < andy__> not with zeroslacke
19:06 < andy__> r
19:06 < Keripo> mpd
19:08 < Keripo> courtc: what was it that made your port work fine and not mine? >_<
19:08 < Keripo> I'm compiling with "arm-elf-gcc -DT_LINUX -elf2flt -o sbagen sbagen.c -lm -lpthread"
19:08 < Keripo> 2.95 toolchain
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19:25 < Keripo> gagh, got it
19:25 < Keripo> "arm-elf-gcc sbagen.c -o sbagen -DT_LINUX -Wall -O3 -s -lm -lpthread -elf2flt"
19:25 < Keripo> what does the "-lc" line do?
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19:38 < Gimp_> Keripo: considering thehre is no -lc in that... I'd say it doesn't do anything
19:40 < Keripo> hehe. iSquid's compiling line has an extra "-lc" in it and the effect seemed to be a smaller but working binary. I'm assuming "-lc" has something to do with compressing the binary, but I'm just wondering if you can do that to everything
19:45  * Keripo done SBaGen, time for flite
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21:10 < darkslategrey> hey i have a question
21:11 < darkslategrey> umm i installed ipodlinux and got some modules
21:11 < darkslategrey> and two of them, clocks and clocks7seg give error messages when loading them.
21:11 < darkslategrey> apparently there are colons missing on  some lines of code
21:12 < darkslategrey> so i uninstalled them
21:12 < darkslategrey> but it still gives me the error messages
21:12 < darkslategrey> also, when it comes time to init MPD, it just locks up
21:13 < darkslategrey> any help?
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21:41 < darkslategrey> :(
21:42 < Keripo> http://cia.vc/stats/project/zeroslackr/.message/2ced8
21:42 < Keripo> sorry andy, but no slide transitions is driving me crazy >_<
21:43 < fxb> Keripo: -lc => libc
21:43 < Keripo> fxb: ah, thanks
21:44  * fxb needs a broken nano 2g
21:44 < Keripo> I dont suppose that'll help make smaller binaries though, no?
21:45 < fxb> shouldn't
21:46 < fxb> just missed a broken nano 2g on ebay
21:47 < Keripo> fxb: do you live in a country with a TD bank?
21:47 < Keripo> wait, crap, nevermind. Forgot TD is Canada-only
21:47 < darkslategrey> hey um does anyone have nay idea why my ipod keeps giving me error messages for modules i've uninstalled
21:48 < darkslategrey> *any
21:48 < Keripo> darkslategray: what types of errors?
21:48 < darkslategrey> missing colons
21:48 < darkslategrey> it says it's missing colons in some lines of code for clocks
21:48 < darkslategrey> which was annoying
21:48 < darkslategrey> so i tried to uninstall it
21:48 < darkslategrey> apparently it didn't work
21:49 < Keripo> huh. never seen that before. have you tried using nightly builds of podzilla2 and modules?
21:49 < darkslategrey> sorry i'm a bit new to this sort of thing. what, exactly, is a nightly build?
21:50 < darkslategrey> by the way (this is the really weird part) these modules worked before and have just now for no apparent reason begun to do this sort of thing
21:50 < darkslategrey> there have been no updates for them since i've installed them
21:51 < Keripo> see the Downloads wiki page for the nightlies
21:51 < darkslategrey> kthx
21:51 < Keripo> fxb: http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPod-Nano-2GB-Silver-2-GB-500-Songs-MP3-Pl_W0QQitemZ250229680761QQihZ015QQcategoryZ125478QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <- that one is working, at $51, and with around 16 minutes left
21:52 < Keripo> theres another down the list at $60 with 18 minutes left
21:52 < darkslategrey> the installer build i have is experimental though (it's the only one that would work) would that cause any sort of problems
21:53 < Keripo> hehe, nevermind; searching "broken ipod nano" gives a lot more cheaper broken nanos ; )
21:54 < darkslategrey> umm ok so i've got the builds for those modules
21:54 < darkslategrey> how do i install them manually
21:54 < darkslategrey> ?
21:54 < Keripo> oh, you installed using Installer2, the SVn builds?
21:56 < darkslategrey> yep
21:57 < fxb> Keripo: shipping costs are high from the US...
21:58 < darkslategrey> might there have been some sort of files left over from the modules that installer didn't remove? i can get myself a linux live .iso pretty quickly and use it to access the correct partition
22:02 < Keripo> dsg: I cant see that being the cause but go ahead
22:02 < Keripo> though I'd suggest you try re-installing the modules and pz2 again using Installer 2 if you haven't already
22:03 < darkslategrey> ok
22:03 < darkslategrey> that was my first idea but since uninstalling didn't seem to remove the errors i didn't think reinstalling would help much
22:03 < darkslategrey> but i'll try
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22:06 < darkslategrey> .............................................................
22:06 < darkslategrey> wellthatsucks because that didn't work
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