--- Log opened Sat Jan 05 00:00:06 2008
00:00 < ashe613> error, saying unknown file type for linux.bin
00:03 < ashe613> DerPapst: ok, iPod Linux now appears, but doesn't load, because it can't identify filetype of linux.bin
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00:13 < DerPapst> hm
00:13 < DerPapst> maybe the download of the kernel is broken?
00:13 < ashe613> mac can't identify th
00:13 < ashe613> e .bin file either
00:13 < DerPapst> redownload it and extract it
00:13 < ashe613> ok
00:13 < DerPapst> it's compressed with gz
00:15 < ashe613> still unknown...
00:16 < ashe613> shuld i try the experimental kernel?
00:17 < DerPapst> umm... this one should work
00:18 < ashe613> i'll try the exp kernel
00:18 < DerPapst> what size does the loader report?
00:19 < ashe613> the exp one kind of works...perhaps nt - kernel panic
00:20 < DerPapst> where did you download the official kernel?
00:20  * DerPapst has a suspicion
00:21 < ashe613> here: http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Linux-2.4.32-ipod2-cc.bin.gz
00:21 < DerPapst> on some macpods the kernel doesn'T work due to a bug.
00:21 < DerPapst> Loader 2 suffers from this bug too.
00:21 < DerPapst> however there is a patch for loader 2. the version i gave you has the patch.
00:21 < ashe613> size=10053
00:21 < DerPapst> but there is no patch for the kernel.
00:22 < ashe613> uh oh...
00:22 < DerPapst> that sounds too small though
00:22 < DerPapst> it has to be around 1.6MB
00:22 < ashe613> is 12KB
00:22 < DerPapst> a little less.
00:22 < ashe613> uh oh
00:22 < DerPapst> seems like the download is corrupt :-S
00:23 < DerPapst> however... even if you can download the kernel... it has the bug too.
00:23 < DerPapst> your only chance to install iPL is to convert your macpod to a winpod.
00:23 < DerPapst> sorry
00:23 < ashe613> oh well, time for a restore
00:24 < DerPapst> fxb: can you svn ci #55? yet another prove that it works.
00:24 < DerPapst> ashe613: can you restore it from windows?
00:25 < ashe613> don't want to...i'll just restore it, and buy a ipod photo...
00:25 < DerPapst> heh.. ok
00:31 < ashe613> sorted, good as new, kind of
00:32 < DerPapst> :-)
00:32 < ashe613> i presume ur working on a fix for the bug
00:32 < DerPapst> heh. i would but i'm not smart enough for kernel hacking.
00:32 < ashe613> know of anyone who is working on a fix?
00:33 < ashe613> thanks for all your help btw
00:34 < DerPapst> at least there is a bug report in the tracker. but someone with enough knowledge and a MacPod, that suffers from this porblem has to do the dirty work.
00:34 < ashe613> that's good...that there is a bug report, not anything else
00:34 < ashe613> it may be something to do with me opening my ipod?
00:35 < ashe613> (new screen
00:35 < ashe613> thanks again
00:35 < ashe613> bye
00:35 < DerPapst> ok.
00:35 < DerPapst> bye
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00:35 < DerPapst> fxb... that was a nano. i wonder why these problems pop up now.
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01:23 < Keripo> http://ipl.nonb.org/ticket/29 <-what exactly happens here since I was still able to playback music after installing with Installer2
01:23 < DerPapst> in the apple OS?
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01:29 < Keripo> well I had iTunes setup with the song files, then installed iPodLinux, then boot into Apple OS, then put music back on
01:29 < Keripo> and I was able to play the music files just fine in the Apple OS
01:29 < Keripo> I'm just wondering exactly what things are being prevented since I don't seem to notice any issues (but I haven't tried everything)
01:36 < DerPapst> Installer 2 doesn't handle the rsrc image in the nanos firmware corretly. It just forgets about it.
01:36 < DerPapst> if it's missing (or corrupt) the AppleOS normally refuses to read the iTunesDB
01:36 < DerPapst> so no music should appear in the OF
01:37 < Keripo> hm, thats odd then and not what I've got
01:38 < Keripo> I'll try tomorrow then and I'll add more songs to my empty iTunes library
01:38 < Keripo> *near empty (for testing)
01:39 < Keripo> also, do you know if rockbox fonts will work with podzilla2 (they both have .fnt extensions)
01:39 < DerPapst> hm... it shouldn't even work for a single song ^^
01:45  * DerPapst should go to bet.
01:53 < Keripo> hm, have to go to work
01:53 < Keripo> *get to
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01:55 < DerPapst> night all.
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03:52 < s0nix> hi
03:52 < s0nix> ho... so ipodlinux doesnt support ipod nano 3g :|
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10:43 < CIA-42> courtc * r2389 /apps/desktop/installer2/installer.cc: change the default bootloader to loader2 (#66)(Thanks Keripo)
10:57 < CIA-42> courtc * r2390 /libs/rawpod/ (imoo.cc partition.h): fixes for big endian linux
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11:42 < CIA-42> courtc * r2391 /apps/desktop/installer2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): minor warning fixes
11:42 < rvvs89> Curses, I broke my working copy of SVN :/
11:43 < CIA-42> courtc * r2392 /libs/rawpod/ (7 files in 2 dirs): more minor warning fixes
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18:03 < mrkiko> shift: hi!
18:03 < mrkiko> shift: :)
18:04 < shift> mrkiko, hey =).... I am not about to ask what I was going to ask in rb..... something else though...
18:04 < mrkiko> shift: good :)
18:04 < mrkiko> shift: I joined this channel only to confirm myself it exists
18:04 < mrkiko> bye!
18:04 < shift> 'night
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18:05 < shift> So anyway...I haven't had anything to do with ipl in ages.... so I was wondering if there's a way to connect to an ipod through ssh or anything like that?
18:05 < shift> or is that just crazy talk?
18:09 < fxb> get an iPod touch :)
18:11 < shift> nuh, I am too broke.... infact I am only asking 'cause my ipod doesn't have a screen 'cause it broke so I was wondering if there's any way to connect to ipl from the comp.
18:13 < shift> guess not... it was a long shot anyway =(
18:14 < fxb> what's your iPods generation?
18:15 < shift> Ipod mini 2gen
18:16 < shift> think I found what I was looking for
18:16 < shift> and found it is not supported on my ipod.
18:16 < shift> but is on others
18:16 < fxb> yeah, 1G-3G
18:18 < shift> and that's just firewire, right? I only have a USB port anyway... but it's pretty cool anyway.
18:19 < shift> so would it be possible to use an ipod as a server or as a torrent mule if the needed software was ported?
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19:41 < mrwii> Hai.
19:42 < connor_> hey
19:42 < mrwii> let;s wait for fxb.
19:44 < mrwii> Hey, connor, let's play a game. /kick and /quit are on a boat, /kick fell in the water. Who's left?
19:44 < connor_> haha fail
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19:46  * Your has been disconnected. please reconnect
19:46 < Your> FAIL
19:46  * Your client has been disconnected. please reconnect
19:46  * Your client has been disconnected. Please reconnect
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19:47 < connor_> stop spamming irc
19:48 < mrwii> Okey.
19:49 < mrwii> Join #MrWii , BTW
19:49 < fxb> mrwii: yes?
19:49 < mrwii> Hi!
19:49 < mrwii> Well...
19:49 < mrwii> Have you been reading the iPL mod forum lately?
19:49 < fxb> yes
19:50 < mrwii> have you read connor's proposition?
19:50 < mrwii> AFAIK, he posted one.
19:50 < connor_> heh, that was your idea
19:50 < fxb> yes
19:51 < mrwii> What do you think of it?
19:51 < connor_> i said i'd post it
19:51 < mrwii> YOu did? Kewl.
19:52 < fxb> I like it. It will make everything easier for new users.
19:52 < fxb> Now they don't really know where to look.
19:52 < connor_> btw
19:53 < connor_> actually, just make it the front page
19:54 < mrwii> The flowchart-system? I don;t think this is a good idea.
19:54 < mrwii> It's up to the mods, but I think it hsould be link by an "Installation" link.
19:54 < connor_> nothing else, regular users know to put wiki. and /forum on the URL! :D
19:54 < connor_> i was jesting, serge :roll
19:56 < connor_> brb
19:56 < mrwii> So...
19:56 < mrwii> Will it be implemented? If so, when?
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19:58 < billenium> why is it easier to get help in #rockbox than in #ipodlinux?
19:59 < mrwii> I suppose because rockbox is easier to install.
20:00 < billenium> erm
20:00 < billenium> wouldnt that make help in there less bountiful?
20:01 < billenium> since less questions
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20:02 < mrwii> I don;t know
20:02 < connor_> back
20:02 < connor_> what has fxb said while I was away?
20:02 < billenium> is there a list somewhere of what iPL can do?
20:03 < mrwii> Nope.
20:03 < mrwii> @connor: he said nothing.
20:03 < connor_> ok
20:03 < billenium> ROFLCTOPER, than why would people want iPL if they didnt know if it was good or not?
20:03 < mrwii> God dammit.
20:03 < mrwii> You're a little pest, aren;t you?
20:04 < billenium> hell yes!
20:04 < connor_> billenium: http://internetisserriousbusiness.com
20:04 < billenium> www.rockbox.org
20:05 < mrwii> Billenium, if you hate us so much, why are you even here?
20:05 < billenium> i don't hate anyone... I just don't get that great of support... and struggle with the installation...
20:05 < connor_>  /kick billenium
20:05 < mrwii> So why are you even here, dammit?!
20:05 < billenium> because i want iPL =P
20:05 < billenium> and i want help =P
20:05 < mrwii> Ask nicely.
20:06 < mrwii> Because ATM you;re just messing with us.
20:06 < connor_> it can play lots of games and nifty apps
20:06 < fxb> billenium: iPodLinux is no replacement for the Apple firmware. It's just "You CAN install Linux on your iPod".
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20:06 < billenium> fxb: i know
20:06 < billenium> but the installer is being mean to me
20:06 < billenium> =P
20:06 < mrwii> Well, too bad.
20:06 < mrwii> YOu can install manually.
20:07 < fxb> Then install manually.
20:07 < billenium> been there
20:07 < billenium> tried that
20:07 < mrwii> Well, sorry then.
20:07 < billenium> can i play videos on iPL if im using a nano?
20:07 < mrwii> If I could do it, why couldn;t you?
20:07 < mrwii> Yes, but it's not pretty.
20:07 < connor_> depends on the generation
20:07  * billenium coughs...
20:08 < billenium> okay
20:08 < billenium> nvm
20:08 < mrwii> What generation is yuour nano?
20:08 < mrwii> *your
20:10 < connor_> he,a gone
20:10 < connor_> he's*
20:10 < mrwii> Apparently.
20:11 < mrwii> <*)))><
20:11 < connor_> anyway we're planning lots of stuff, new frontpage, complete revamp of the wiki, wiped forums etc
20:12 < mrwii> COuld I do the interactive flowchart help syste,?
20:12 < mrwii> *help
20:12 < connor_> whether it materializes or not is another thing
20:12 < mrwii> Oh, it will.
20:12 < mrwii> I'm sure it will.
20:13 < connor_> I'll get back to you about it
20:13 < mrwii> k.
20:13  * mrwii slaps connor_ around a bit with a large trout
20:14  * mrwii slaps connor_ around a bit with a large trout
20:14 < connor_> brb
20:16 < connor_> /me loves IRC on his iPod touch
20:17  * mrwii loves my PC.
20:17 < mrwii> FUCK
20:17 < mrwii> FAIL
20:17  * mrwii loves his PC.
20:17 < mrwii> Now, much better.
20:20 < fxb> watch your language.
20:20 < mrwii> Sorry.
20:20 < mrwii> It's just that me failing at something is pitiful.
20:21 < connor_> is I'll out for the 2G nano yet?
20:21 < connor_> *ipl
20:21 < connor_> ;)
20:22 < mrwii> *sigh*
20:22 < mrwii> fxb, have you ever used the Python C Api before?
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20:23 < fxb> mrwii: nope.
20:23 < mrwii> Aww, too bad.
20:23 < mrwii> I'm having troubles with some code, but anyway, toob ad.
20:23 < connor> do 5.5Gs work?
20:23 < fxb> yes
20:24 < connor> fxb
20:24 < mrwii> Connor, stop messing around.
20:24 < connor> i'm just joking :D
20:24 < connor> ok i'll stop.
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20:24 < mrwii> Preapare fo rthe kickage.
20:24 < mrwii> *for the
20:24 < fxb> or i'll make you stop :P
20:25 < mrwii> That '@' sign doesn't look so funny when it's next to an angry;s mod name.
20:27 < connor>  /mode connor +o
20:27 < connor> heh
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20:49 < mrwii> Hai again.
20:49 < mrwii> This time from my Jornada.
20:55 < mrwii> sigh...
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21:37 < striker1915> can someone help me with my friends ipodtouch
21:37 < striker1915> were having some problems
21:39 < striker1915> .
21:39 < striker1915> none....
21:40 < striker1915> cmon!!!
21:41 < striker1915> fu guys
21:41 < striker1915> fucking help us
21:41 < striker1915> dicks
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21:41 < DataGhost> Hello, how can I help you
21:41 < DataGhost> oooooooooh.. they're gone...awwwwww
21:41 < courtc> Oh, wait... you were asking for support in the wrong channel in the first place...
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22:17 < Keripo> haha, success!
22:17 < Keripo> courtc, I've managed to make a perfect, out-of-the-box, clean mpd module
22:18 < Keripo> no first-boot issues, etc ; )
22:19 < Keripo> kinda rewrote it cleanly based on your 0.4 source but it does what its expected to do and works nicely without issues ; )
22:21 < Keripo> is there any way to change the module initialization message so it says something like "Updating MPD" or some other indicater (lest some people just believe the module is frozen and reboot)
22:23 < Keripo> (the closest I can find in the pz2 api file is pz_message, but that still has an "ok" button and causes the screen to go white)
22:26 < BHSPitLappy> Hmm, I've never seen a module use that customizes that message.
22:26 < BHSPitLappy> Then again, I haven't used iPL in over a year;  there's probably a lot I haven't seen
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22:30 < EdgeHM> [OS:Windows 2000]
22:30 < EdgeHM> [iPod: 15GB 3G]
22:30 < EdgeHM> Okay, now that that's out of the way, I can't get the video to work with pz0. It's not the format, the files are already encoded properly.
22:31 < BHSPitLappy> woo, someone read the topic
22:31 < Keripo> yup, good job Edge
22:31 < BHSPitLappy> someone get out that champagne we've been saving for a special occasion
22:31 < Keripo> where did you get your podzilla0 build from?
22:31 < Keripo> and how did you encode it?
22:32 < EdgeHM> Sad to say, the only way I could install it was using the installer from SourceForge
22:32 < Keripo> oooh, don't do that
22:32 < BHSPitLappy> EdgeHM, why is that?
22:32 < BHSPitLappy> (That would be your problem)
22:32 < Keripo> try installer 2
22:32 < Keripo> I'll give you a good link
22:32 < Keripo> (dont use the one on the wiki for now)
22:32 < EdgeHM> Tried it. Bad experience all around
22:33 < BHSPitLappy> EdgeHM, any linux experience?
22:33 < Keripo> no, installer 2 has been cleaned up more recently and should work with pz0 at least
22:33 < EdgeHM> Only when necessary. Subverting passwords.
22:33 < Keripo> or at least the svn builds are good
22:33 < EdgeHM> Like the ones my parents used to keep me off the computer.
22:34 < Keripo> http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/svnbuilds/?C=M;O=D
22:34 < Keripo> use the one with "2386" in the name
22:34 < Keripo> the only thing I'd say be careful with is to choose loader2 for your loader since this is before my loader2-default patch was submitted
22:35 < Keripo> I'd rebuild and upload fresh installer builds but I can only compile for the windows target 
22:35 < BHSPitLappy> he's using windows
22:37 < EdgeHM> I'll try it, but I really don't like working in a command line. I can do it, I just don't like doing it. And I'm covered in case anything goes wrong. There's one thing that the build from source forge is fairly good for: restoring firmware backups, since its fairly stable
22:37 < Keripo> yeah, but I still need to wait til rvv89 gets his script corrected
22:37 < Keripo> Edge - its fully gui, not command lined
22:38 < BHSPitLappy> well, he's already got the hard parts out of the way (partitioning)
22:38 < EdgeHM> Really? I was afraid I'd have to build it myself. That's a relief.
22:38 < Keripo> the pre-compiled builds I linked you to, that is
22:39 < Keripo> oh, sorry, I was just commenting on my lack-of-a-harddrive-installed-Linux-distro
22:39 < Keripo> carry on ; )
22:39 < EdgeHM> Hahaha... I've been there. On a laptop that didn't have a hard drive.
22:40 < EdgeHM> Wouldn't boot to a CD, so I had to use a floppy disk to make it boot from a CD.
22:41 < Keripo> O_o actually my reason is because I didn't think ahead of time and only left 3 GB unpartitioned when I did my initial partitioning. Now I just boot Slax from my harddrive, but it still runs as a LiveCD so I can't really do all that much with it.
22:43 < EdgeHM> Well, my laptop didn't have a hard drive. I was running Slax from a live CD and storing everything on flash drives. It was an old POS laptop too. Ran on a 500MHz PIII.
22:44 < EdgeHM> Eventually it wouldn't even boot from the floppy drive.
22:44 < EdgeHM> Which probably happened when I crashed my bike with it in my backpack.
22:44 < Keripo> hehe, well, accidents happen ; )
22:45 < EdgeHM> Yeah, I tried to fix it, and then it was swallowed up by my house. Haven't seen it since.
22:46 < EdgeHM> By the way, the installer's asking for a libeay32.dll. Should I just download it from the internet or is it part of a set I need?
22:49 < Keripo> yeah, get it from the internet
22:49 < Keripo> installer2 from svn with the latest qt libraries doesn't need libeay32.dll but for some reason fxb's qt version (older I presume) does
22:50 < Keripo> just download the library and stick it in the same folder
22:50 < EdgeHM> Already done. Restoring the Firmware backup with Installer v1.2.1
22:51 < EdgeHM> (The one I got from source forge)
22:54 < fxb> Keripo: I'll look into that.
22:55 < Keripo> fxb: my Qt installation is fresh from their website so I'm assuming mine is the most recent
22:55 < fxb> yeah, I think I have an old one
22:56 < fxb> that's also why I dind't have that disabled checkboxes bug
23:03 < Keripo> I wonder if iPL's sourceforge page will ever get updated... ; )
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23:13 < Keripo> is there anyone here with pz2 installed that can try out an mpd module?
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23:37 < Keripo> http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Pz2mods-mpd-n-mpdc-n-src.tar.gz
23:37 < Keripo> upped them to the wiki; anyone able to test them?
23:38 < Keripo> (I should also probably make a patch for adding groups to the mpdc menu items, but only if courtc's fine with it)
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