--- Log opened Fri Jan 04 00:00:07 2008 00:02 -!- redH [n=grumpy@83-70-68-242.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:14 < redH> Hello. Does anybody know the disklabel for iPods? I kinda zerofilled my ipod and now I dare not reboot until I have the partitions right and the bios will read em. 00:20 -!- redH [n=grumpy@83-70-68-242.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:22 -!- redH [n=grumpy@83-70-68-242.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:33 -!- zacaj [n=chatzill@209.23.28.34] has joined #ipodlinux 00:52 -!- syamajala2 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:34 -!- gremau [n=greg@c-24-10-241-143.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:37 -!- gremau [n=greg@c-24-10-241-143.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:03 -!- syamajala2 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:24 -!- bholland [n=bholland@64.114.6.245] has joined #ipodlinux 02:24 -!- sliverqueen [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-36-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:26 -!- bholland [n=bholland@64.114.6.245] has quit [Client Quit] 02:27 -!- zacaj [n=chatzill@209.23.28.34] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]"] 02:39 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:39 < Keripo> ... someone _really_ needs to delete the Xzilla page 02:51 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:51 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 02:52 -!- fxb_ipod [n=felixbru@p548F46DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 -!- fxb_ipod [n=felixbru@p548F46DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:53 -!- fxb_ipod [n=felixbru@p548F46DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 -!- fxb_ipod [n=felixbru@p548F46DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:53 < Keripo> wondering, since DSLinux is a port of uClinux and the console uses an ARM processor, would some of the DSLinux ports also be able to be ported to the iPod? 03:01 -!- sliverqueen [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-36-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 03:23 < courtc> Keripo: sure. 03:23 < courtc> Keripo: Thanks for that patch btw. 03:24 < courtc> If you are interested in porting some enhancements, I would look at the linux blackfin project as well. 03:25 < Keripo> well, I was trying the bsdgames and I get tons of blah.d: No such file or directory 03:25 < Keripo> what exactly is a .d file? 03:25 < Keripo> dependencies/ 03:26 < Keripo> *? 03:35 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 03:37 < courtc> Yea, it's used by some makefile setups to keep track of dependancies. 03:38 < courtc> The setups usually depend on `makedepend` 03:38 < courtc> Alternatively, the could be D code files. 03:39 < courtc> http://make.paulandlesley.org/autodep.html has some examples. 03:43 < rvvs89> Source for Xzilla is unavailable it seems 03:44 < courtc> svn co https://ipodlinux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ipodlinux/apps/ipod/podzilla2 # ;) 03:45 < courtc> or -> svn co https://ipodlinux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ipodlinux/apps/ipod/podzilla2 xzilla 03:46 < Keripo> I remember them setting up an svn a while back 03:47 < Keripo> but when I looked at it and diff'd it with the corresponding svn revision, I only found a few lines changed 03:47 < Keripo> in other words, no changes really 03:51 * rvvs89 sighs 03:52 * courtc wasn't joking really 03:55 < rvvs89> xzilla SVN, revision number: 6 03:56 < rvvs89> Oh, revision 6 is when they uploaded the contents of the old SVN :/ 03:56 < rvvs89> The entire tools directory 03:59 < Keripo> really just delete the wiki page 03:59 < Keripo> the only "progress" i remember reading about was megabyte or someone asking for testers for his hotdog circle-based menu demo 04:00 < Keripo> I also need to remember to tell AriX to delete the forums (or at least parts of it) since spambots took control of it 04:03 < Keripo> hehe, just look at their development forums: http://www.winxblog.com/xzilla/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=6fdec98afaea49cf141c79c37340750d 04:03 < Keripo> (note: topic headings not work safe) 04:04 < courtc> Keripo: where did you get the bsdgames source? 04:04 < Keripo> debian 04:04 < AriX_> hey 04:04 < Keripo> sec 04:04 < Keripo> hey ari 04:04 < Keripo> kill the XZilla forums please 04:04 < AriX_> whats up heard my name ;) 04:05 < Keripo> its been swamped by pr0n spambots ; ) 04:05 < AriX_> ah, finally dead? 04:05 < AriX_> oh lol 04:05 < Keripo> never started ; P 04:05 < AriX_> im actually vncing from my iphone at the moment 04:05 < Keripo> nice ; ) 04:06 < AriX_> cant really do it right now 04:07 < AriX_> anyone know anything about iphuc 04:07 < AriX_> man this is way off tipic sorry 04:07 < Keripo> on the xzilla forums all I've seen is CoverView requests, CoverView "tests", many "ideas" threads, ideas of "multi-user login", failures to even get MPD working, and pr0n spams ; ) 04:07 < Keripo> all I know is that its pretty nifty 04:08 < AriX_> it sure is 04:08 < AriX_> im trying to get it to display an image while in recovery 04:08 < Keripo> courtc: packages.debian.org/stable/games/bsdgames 04:09 < courtc> yup, got it. 04:09 < Keripo> ^ the source files are on the side 04:09 < Keripo> my cygwin installation is too minimal (just enough to compile iPL stuff) and incomplete so I'll need to install lots of packages ; P 04:09 < AriX_> i upload the apple logo, setpicture 0, and bgcolor 0 0 0 but it wont work 04:10 < AriX_> although grestore is able to do it just fine :X 04:10 < AriX_> anywAy i should go to bed 04:10 < Keripo> sorry Ari, don't have an iPhone/touch yet and the two people in my school who have it are noobs 04:11 < AriX_> good luck getting one ;) 04:11 < Keripo> might get one in a march, but I'll probably choose to get a ps3 instead (if I get into mit/caltech that is) 04:11 < AriX_> theyre awesome 04:11 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:11 < Keripo> [/offtopic] 04:11 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 04:12 < AriX_> heh, night 04:12 < Keripo> nighty 04:14 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:14 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:14 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 04:20 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:20 -!- amiconn_ [n=jens@p54BD709D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:21 -!- hhehw [n=xboxhheh@pool-162-84-181-19.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:27 -!- Rhoruns_ [n=Rhoruns@ip68-228-199-27.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:27 -!- hhhew [n=xboxhheh@162.84.181.19] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 04:28 -!- hhhew [n=xboxhheh@pool-162-84-181-19.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:30 -!- conorkirk [n=conorkir@c-76-115-163-151.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 -!- Rhoruns_ [n=Rhoruns@ip68-228-199-27.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["NOOOOOOOOB"] 04:36 -!- hdevalence [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177700936.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 04:38 < hdevalence> the ipodpatcher --scan command doesn't find my ipod 04:39 -!- amiconn_ [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:40 -!- hhehw [n=xboxhheh@pool-162-84-181-19.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:47 -!- hhhew [n=xboxhheh@pool-162-84-181-19.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:12 < rvvs89> hdevalence: Have you previously done anything to the firmware partition of the iPod? 05:32 -!- abbyz [n=abbyz@cosspar.cs.indiana.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:44 < hdevalence> rvvs89: Yes 05:44 < hdevalence> rvvs89: sorry for the delay, i was getting a snack 06:09 -!- conorkirk [n=conorkir@c-76-115-163-151.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit ["Ciao!"] 06:19 -!- hdevalence [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177700936.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [""going to bed""] 06:20 -!- hdevalence [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177700936.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 07:12 < rvvs89> hdevalence: Ah, well, you may have to restore your iPod in order to get ipodpatcher to recognise it again 07:13 < rvvs89> Also, (just in case) if you have an unsupported iPod (2g-3g nano, iPod classic, iPod touch) then it won't detect it 07:40 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:40 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 07:48 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 07:48 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:50 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:50 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 07:56 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew."] 07:58 -!- baudchan [n=peer@75-170-46-220.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:25 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@73-190.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 08:28 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 08:36 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:36 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 08:41 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:42 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 08:48 < baudchan> lol 08:54 -!- GodEater [n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater] has quit ["IRC is just multiplayer notepad"] 08:56 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:56 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 09:20 -!- GodEater [n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater] has joined #ipodlinux 10:10 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 10:10 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@73-190.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:21 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Yuuw!"] 10:21 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:27 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@88-140.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 11:01 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:03 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:08 -!- sliverqueen [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-36-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:08 -!- davina_ [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:10 -!- baudchan [n=peer@75-170-46-220.eugn.qwest.net] has quit ["fuck"] 11:12 -!- davina_ [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:14 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:15 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:50 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-82-3-229-44.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:53 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@88-140.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 12:07 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@vpnf045.ugent.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:09 -!- sliverqueen [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-36-4.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:39 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 13:10 -!- dave__ [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:11 -!- dave__ [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:11 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:17 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p5B23CB4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 < DerPapst> morning :-P (well, not really) 14:00 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" reboot"] 14:04 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 -!- Gimp__ [n=malcolm@S010600c049ed94ef.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:41 < redH> Hey. Does anybody know the disklabel for a 3G iPod? 14:41 < DerPapst> uum... IPOD? i don't know. but what do you need it for? 14:42 < redH> I wiped mine.. 14:42 < redH> And I don't want to chance anything in case I can't get it back into disk mode 14:42 < DerPapst> the disklabel isn't that important though. 14:43 < DerPapst> you can always get it back to diskmode. 14:43 < DerPapst> even if the harddrive is completely broken 14:43 < redH> Really? I thought it might be a wierd one because gparted can't see it. 14:43 < redH> ooo cool 14:43 < redH> thanks 14:43 < DerPapst> you can even get into diskmode if there isn'T a harddrive in the ipod anymore. 14:44 < redH> I thought it was dependant on the firmware partition 14:44 < DerPapst> no 14:44 < DerPapst> the apple bootloader and diskmode are stored in a flash rom chip on the iPods mobo 14:44 < redH> Thanks. So will it boot on any disklabel? 14:46 < DerPapst> if you have forced into diskmode you can access the HD with your computer. 14:46 < redH> Ok yeah I get you. But was wondering the bios recognise an msdos disklabel and boot it 14:49 < rvvs89> redH: Possibly, but I think you would have to nuke the firmware to achieve that 14:50 < redH> I did. The fw partition that is. 14:50 < rvvs89> Which means the iPod wouldn't boot properly 14:51 -!- Gimp_ [n=malcolm@growl/gimp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:51 < rvvs89> Ok, there is apparently a bug with my Module file parser which ignores the last line 14:52 < rvvs89> So for now every module shall depend on podzilla2 and nothing else 15:07 < DerPapst> is that a bash script? 15:08 < rvvs89> C program 15:08 < DerPapst> ah. 15:08 < rvvs89> Should have done it in a language with better support for strings :< 15:09 < DerPapst> if it would be php i guess fxb or any other one with access to the server could have give you the php source for the module repository. 15:09 < DerPapst> which creates the list too. 15:09 < courtc> c has great support for strings ;) 15:10 < rvvs89> Pfft, of course it does, but it takes longer to do anything with strings in C than virtually any scripting language 15:10 < DerPapst> rvvs89: maybe pastebin the source? http://paste.felixbruns.de/ 15:11 < rvvs89> There's not much point really, I need to rewrite it completely 15:11 < DerPapst> heh 15:12 < rvvs89> I based it on some code I had found for reading entries in /proc/[number]/status 15:12 < rvvs89> For ksysguard 15:13 < courtc> rvvs89: but you can do more with strings in c than virtually any scripting language. ;) 15:14 < rvvs89> courtc: I never said you couldn't :P 15:14 < DerPapst> courtc: if you have a little time could you help out this chap a litte? http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=240348&highlight=#240348 15:15 < DerPapst> It's about MPD and i'm not smart enough to help him. 15:19 < courtc> Doesn't look like there's much I can do to help. The first bug is known, the second bug I haven't seen. 15:19 < DerPapst> hmh... 15:20 < DerPapst> can you tell him the same? or shall i quote you? 15:21 < courtc> Feel free to quote, I don't have any desire to become a support jockey for inane MPD questions. 15:21 < DerPapst> heh 15:22 < courtc> http://ipl.nonb.org/wiki/Hotdog <-- need help, if anyone has extra time. 15:23 -!- Gebruiker [n=chatzill@82-170-147-44-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 15:26 -!- Gebruiker [n=chatzill@82-170-147-44-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:53 -!- ashe613 [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:55 -!- ashe613 is now known as ashe613_is_sleep 15:59 < ashe613_is_sleep> courtc: what is the status of mpd? 15:59 < fxb> courtc: I can help. I have nothing to do. 16:00 < ashe613_is_sleep> courtc: i'm wanting to put it on a podzilla(legacy) ipod. does it work? (3G, Mac) 16:00 < rvvs89> ashe613_is_sleep: It will work, but you need a client for it 16:01 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: thanks, know where i can download one? 16:01 < rvvs89> The only existing graphical mpd client on the iPod is mpdc for podzilla2 16:02 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok, but i thought that podzilla2 had no music player - is this the whole music player? 16:02 < rvvs89> Yes 16:02 < rvvs89> MPD + MPDC = Music player 16:03 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok... back to podzilla2.. 16:03 < ashe613_is_sleep> btw, the links are broken on http://ipodlinux.org/MPD 16:04 < ashe613_is_sleep> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/mpd : 404 error msg 16:04 < rvvs89> Indeed, page needs updating, courtc should have a recent build, and if not, I should in about 15 minutes or so 16:04 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok... 16:04 < rvvs89> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpd-modules-0.4.tar.gz 16:04 < rvvs89> Thar 16:05 < ashe613_is_sleep> thanks. is that all i need? any edited podzilla2's? 16:05 < rvvs89> I don't believe so 16:05 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok thanks for the help... 16:05 < ashe613_is_sleep> send: Cookies 16:05 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@vpnf045.ugent.be] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:06 < ashe613_is_sleep> he's allergic... 16:06 < rvvs89> Heh, you will probably have memory issues if you are using a lot of modules 16:06 < ashe613_is_sleep> that's fine. i can cope 16:06 < rvvs89> Yeah, the chocolate chips got to him 16:07 < rvvs89> Oh, also, the module usually freezes on first run while initialising the database 16:08 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok...reset works (or do i have to go in and dislocate the batt, which i've had to do in the past) 16:09 < ashe613_is_sleep> as in does reset work? 16:09 < rvvs89> Reset should always work 16:09 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok...unless severe kernel panic... 16:10 < rvvs89> Well, even then. It should work even if the flashrom is corrupted 16:11 < rvvs89> By reset you mean holding a couple of keys? 16:11 < ashe613_is_sleep> yep 16:13 < rvvs89> Yeah, although I've never used a 3G, I have no reason to think the hard reset function is different 16:17 -!- ashe613_is_sleep [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:18 -!- ashe613 [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:19 < ashe613> rvvs89: problem, it said it couldn't load mpd, but i can't remember why 16:19 < ashe613> i'll reboot 16:20 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:22 -!- ashe613 is now known as ashe613_is_sleep 16:22 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok, hung trying to initialise mpd 16:22 < ashe613_is_sleep> reboot 16:25 < rvvs89> DerPapst: Installer sources file is http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/nightly/.installer2-sources 16:26 < ashe613_is_sleep> crashed again...removing and putting back 16:26 < rvvs89> ashe613_is_sleep: Have a look at the error log 16:27 < rvvs89> Should be in /etc/mpd/ or /etc/podzilla/mpd/ 16:27 < rvvs89> Or similar 16:29 < ashe613_is_sleep> thanks 16:31 < rvvs89> courtc, fxb: Which modules do you want in the "pzmodules" package? 16:31 < ashe613_is_sleep> contents of error.log: ÖŸäÿ≥ 04 22:40 OOM: malloc 16:31 -!- hdevalence [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177700936.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ipodlinux ["Konversation terminated!"] 16:32 < DerPapst> rvvs89: nice :-) 16:32 < rvvs89> Well, there you go, it ran out of memory :/ 16:32 < DerPapst> thanks 16:32 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: thanks 16:32 < DerPapst> ashe613_is_sleep: delete modules you don't need. esp. libstdcxx and pthreadstubs. 16:32 < rvvs89> Yeah, no problems 16:32 < DerPapst> rvvs89: do you think it's save enough to point installer 2 to that list? 16:33 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: still good to have the following in the rc file: 16:33 < ashe613_is_sleep> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 16:35 -!- matrix [n=matrix@213.254.58.118] has joined #ipodlinux 16:35 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: is it still good to have "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1" in the "rc" file 16:35 < DerPapst> the modules don'T require that anymore. a clean rc file will work just fine. 16:35 < ashe613_is_sleep> ok 16:35 < ashe613_is_sleep> thanks 16:37 < rvvs89> DerPapst: Unless it doesn't like the line breaks, I don't see any reason why not, alhough I'll have a closer look to make sure 16:37 < ashe613_is_sleep> DerPapst: any other modules needing removed?, whilst it's still attached to the mac... 16:37 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: thanks 16:39 < ashe613_is_sleep> may as well update itunes whilst i'm here 16:40 < ashe613_is_sleep> DerPapst: never mind... 16:40 < rvvs89> Had any success? 16:44 -!- ashe613_is_sleep [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:48 -!- Gimp__ is now known as Gimp_ 16:52 < rvvs89> DerPapst: Can't see anything obviously wrong with it 16:54 * rvvs89 -> sleep 16:55 < DerPapst> mkay. 16:55 < DerPapst> i'll add it and wait for complains ;-) 16:56 < rvvs89> :P 16:58 < rvvs89> If you give me a list of useful/stable modules like those in the pzmodules package then I'll tar then I could tar them separetely too 16:59 < rvvs89> s/separetely/separately/ 17:00 < DerPapst> i'd say all svn modules except mpd, modc, llibstdcxx and pthreadstubs. 17:01 < DerPapst> ages ago there was a discussion for a minimal module set. 17:01 < DerPapst> they have been posted on fxb's pastebin 17:01 < DerPapst> dunno if it's still there. 17:02 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 17:03 < DerPapst> nope.. seems like all posts below 43 are gone 17:07 -!- ashe613_is_sleep [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:08 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: nope: error msg="unable to connect to mpc" 17:08 < ashe613_is_sleep> i mean "mpd" 17:08 < ashe613_is_sleep> s/mpc/mpd/ 17:09 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: 17:09 < ashe613_is_sleep> woops. 17:13 < rvvs89> DerPapst: http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/nightly/pzmodules.tar.gz 17:13 < DerPapst> whee,, 17:13 < DerPapst> i thought you're already asleep ;-) 17:14 < rvvs89> Yeah, I was just getting changed, but had a build going at the same time 17:14 < rvvs89> ashe613_is_sleep: Sorry I've got to go 17:14 < rvvs89> I am also sleep :P 17:14 * rvvs89 zzz 17:14 < DerPapst> rvvs89: night :-) 17:17 -!- courtc [n=court@unaffiliated/courtc] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:18 < ashe613_is_sleep> rvvs89: ok thanks for the help. i'll be back, cos it's not working 17:18 < ashe613_is_sleep> DerPapst: can u help 17:19 < ashe613_is_sleep> actually, never mind, i'm going back to podzilla(legacy) 17:19 < ashe613_is_sleep> it's easier 17:21 < DerPapst> heh 17:22 < ashe613_is_sleep> yes 17:24 -!- ashe613_is_sleep [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:32 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Yuuw!"] 17:35 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:35 < Keripo> courtc, would you like to to play around with mpd a bit? 17:36 < Keripo> I got it working out-of-the-box with ZeroSlackr a long while ago but I can't exactly remember how I did it 17:37 < fxb> [18:17] * courtc has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) 17:38 < Keripo> whoops, a bit late ; / I'll play around with it anyway 17:39 -!- courtc [n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:39 < fxb> there he is :) 17:39 < Keripo> courtc: "(12:35:51 PM) Keripo: courtc, would you like to to play around with mpd a bit? 17:39 < Keripo> (12:36:21 PM) Keripo: I got it working out-of-the-box with ZeroSlackr a long while ago but I can't exactly remember how I did it" 17:39 < fxb> courtc: I added all HD_SRF_* macros. 17:40 < fxb> I'll do the image loading functions after dinner. 17:40 < fxb> And then maybe the remaining primitives... 17:40 < DerPapst> fxb: commit #55? ;-) 17:44 < fxb> well, looks like he know what he's doing. 17:44 < fxb> if the other devs are ok with that patch i can commit it. 17:45 < fxb> was it tested on multiple iPods? 17:45 < fxb> 80GB and non-80GB ones? 17:49 < DerPapst> yes. 17:50 < Keripo> fxb: odd, your Windows svn builds now need libeay32.dll 17:50 < DerPapst> it seems to be a problem for 5.5G MacPods 17:50 < DerPapst> don't know if there are problems with 5G MacPods too. 17:52 < fxb> Keripo: Maybe because it supports https. 17:55 -!- matrix [n=matrix@213.254.58.118] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:56 < Keripo> nope, its probably your Qt environment cause I just compiled from svn and I only needed the original dlls : mingwm10.dll, QtCore4.dll, QtGui4.dll, and QtNetwork4.dll 17:57 -!- courtc [n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:01 < Keripo> Hm, the modules sources are off - they create "Error fetching /ipl/nightly/about.tar.gz for package about: Not Found" and so on 18:01 -!- courtc [n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:01 < Keripo> 95 error pop-ups latter and the installer crashes ; ) 18:02 < Keripo> files are downloaded though 18:04 < DerPapst> eh 18:04 < DerPapst> odd. 18:05 < DerPapst> i've updated the installation sources about 15 minutes before you joned IRC 18:05 < DerPapst> maybe they are broken? 18:08 < Keripo> ah, thing I've got it 18:09 < Keripo> parsing for the modules list is probably hardcoded as *location*/*module*/*module*-##.tar.gz 18:09 < Keripo> I'll look at the sourc 18:13 < Keripo> hehe, nevermind - not even that 18:13 < Keripo> rufus must have made a mistake in his script 18:13 < Keripo> he points at http://rvvs89.ucc.asn.au/ instead of http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ 18:14 < Keripo> wait, nevermind, I'm an idiot 18:14 < Keripo> his file format is "*module*-*version.tar.gz" 18:15 < Keripo> but his files are still in "xpod-*modulename*.tar.gz" 18:15 < Keripo> so I'll just wait til he changes that part of his script for now 18:16 < Keripo> er, scratch that. he just needs to remove the "xpods-" part 18:16 < Keripo> wow, I'm really confusing myself 18:20 < Keripo> final verdict: rufus needs to either add "xpod-" to the beginning of all the modules in the sources file or remove it from the archive file names. also, I'm confusing myself and should really go eat lunch 18:30 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:33 -!- redH [n=grumpy@83-70-68-242.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:40 < DerPapst> heh 18:40 < DerPapst> but yeah. that needs to be fixed. 18:42 < Keripo> hm, installed iPL with my pz0 build and it works 18:43 < Keripo> oddly it seems I built with MPDC=1 though since its using MPD instead of the old iTunes thing 18:43 < DerPapst> good good :-) 18:43 < DerPapst> oh 18:43 < Keripo> letme see if I can rebuild it 18:43 < DerPapst> maybe that should be fixed though 18:44 -!- fxb_ipod [n=felixbru@p548F6F78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 -!- fxb_ipod [n=felixbru@p548F6F78.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:50 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-82-3-229-44.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:51 < rconan> does ipodloader2 still support loading rockbox? I'm getting an error saying "Undefined instruction at 00046494 (0)" but I don't know wether it's ipodloader2 or rockbox which is going wrong 18:51 < DataGhost> and exactly when do you get that error? 18:52 < rconan> when i select rockbox from the menu in loader2 18:52 < rconan> after it has done the loading bar 18:52 < DataGhost> that means after it's loaded rockbox 18:52 < DataGhost> I suspect the error is from rockbox itself 18:52 < DataGhost> but I don't know how it would relate to the loader, though apparently the loader can influence rockbox 18:52 < DataGhost> are you 100% sure your rockbox download is not corrupt? 18:53 < rconan> DataGhost, i couldn't be certain 18:53 < DataGhost> because it looks like something more or less related to a plugin of some sort, I don't generally see those error messages happen outside a virtual machine (in main code) 18:54 < DataGhost> but I don't know enough about rockbox to be sure 18:54 < DataGhost> can't you do an md5sum for your download? 18:54 < courtc> OSs can catch und(efined) interrupts and produce an error message. 18:55 < DataGhost> yes, that's why I don't see it happen in main code :) 18:55 < DataGhost> in the OS itself :p since it would crash 18:55 < DataGhost> eh. interrupts. his error said 'instruction' 18:56 < courtc> An undefined instruction on an arm processor causes an und interrrupt ;) 18:56 < DataGhost> oh 18:56 < DataGhost> didn't know that, sorry. 18:57 < courtc> It's sort of irrelevant, but certainly caused by rockbox. 18:58 < courtc> The thing is, I doubt you'll get help from over there; they don't hold loader2 in high regard. 19:00 < courtc> Oh, you get the same with the RB bootloader. That's a good sign on our end. Not so great for you... I would verify that the rockbox build is complete and not corrupt. 19:04 < Keripo> DerPapst: I recompiled podzilla0 with libitunes but it doesn't read the iTunesDB file at all (the Apple OS still does read the files though). Maybe libitunes doesn't work with the newer firmware updates? (I'll try an older pz0 build to see) 19:06 < courtc> Keripo: libitunes is quite out-of-date. 19:06 < Keripo> ah, alright 19:07 < Keripo> I had built and uploaded pz0 for installer 2 but realized I had built with mpd instead of libitunes 19:08 < courtc> also, the pz0 MPDc probably won't interface with any 0.12.0+ mpd build. 19:09 < Keripo> yeah, the older pz0 builds dont work at all with the new itunes dbs 19:09 < Keripo> in that case, better to just remove pz0 completely from the installation sources 19:10 < Keripo> is the old loader (0.3.3) still functioning with current things? 19:10 < courtc> No idea. 19:10 < Keripo> lets try ; ) 19:14 < Keripo> I wonder how long my nano will last hardware-wise with so many reformat/restores/reboots and constant use as a flash drive... 19:20 < DerPapst> i'd say it will work. 19:20 < DerPapst> on all ipods except 5.5G 19:23 < DerPapst> rconan: wgat is your iPod generation and the version of your loader 2 binary? 19:26 < Keripo> yup, the old loader works just fine as it always had. 19:26 < Keripo> still, I don't see much point keeping it though as loader2 is pretty much stable 19:27 < Keripo> same with podzilla0 (from the installation sources) 19:30 < DerPapst> podzilla 0 is still wanted. not sure about loader1 but why not keep it? doesn't hurt things. maybe make it clear in the descriptions that both are depreached. 19:34 < Keripo> sure, though the installer 2 defaults should probably be changed to the newer versions of both 19:36 < Keripo> also, should I upload a non-mpdc build of pz0 or keep the currently uploaded mpdc version? 19:36 < DerPapst> yes. 19:36 < Keripo> both of them don't work as far as music playback goes though 19:37 < rconan> DerPapst, i worked out the problem lies in rockbox... why do you ask? 19:38 < DerPapst> because i wanted to be helpful? 19:39 < DerPapst> and maybe because i know a few things about Loader 2 and rockbox? 19:39 < rconan> DerPapst, turns out there is a problem with some of the recent rockbox builds running on PP5002s 19:39 < Keripo> cause DerPapst was slow and was willing to help if you hadn't solved your problem yet ; ) 19:40 < Keripo> http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Podzilla0-itunes-cvs-09-28-2005.gz 19:40 < Keripo> there, uploaded, but I don't see any reason to delete the mpdc build though 19:40 < DerPapst> Keripo: ok i'll update once again. do you by chance know hot to make pz2 and loader 2 default? 19:40 < Keripo> might as well leave it up there so I can link to it on the podzilla legacy page in case people want it (if you install an old mpd manually, it'll still work) 19:41 < DerPapst> Keripo: i think we can keep it. 19:41 < Keripo> for that I'll have to patch the installer 2 source 19:41 < rconan> speaking of mpd how well does it work these days? 19:41 < Keripo> I did it a while ago with an build (for zeronet I think) but I deleted that source long ago, so I'll look into it 19:41 < DerPapst> Keripo: maybe you can add links to the prebuild ones on the pz0 wiki page. and maybe update the build instructions to use SVN. 19:42 < DerPapst> rconan: so you have a 1G or 3G iPod... :-P 19:42 < Keripo> derpapst: I've added the svn link already but theres no need to really update the page since the instructions are the same and the old cvs still works 19:42 < DerPapst> or 2G... 19:42 < rconan> DerPapst, 3G 19:42 < DerPapst> aha. 19:42 < DerPapst> and loader 2.5 SVN-blabla? 19:42 < Keripo> rconan - it works fine but involves some tricky setup 19:43 < rconan> Keripo, any guides as to how to set up? 19:43 < DerPapst> i just want to rule out that is is a problem with our bootloader 19:43 < Keripo> the "nightly builds" that rvv89 makes uses old mpd code though so it probably wont work with him mpdc builds, but I gave him a link to courtc's latest mpd source yesterday or the day before 19:44 < rconan> DerPapst, bootloader from svn 2388 19:45 < DerPapst> rconan: ok. i'm running a way older build on my 3Gs so i don't suffer from those rockbox quirks :-) 19:45 -!- Hobz [n=Hobbes@unaffiliated/hobz] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 < Keripo> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpd-modules-0.4.tar.gz <- latest mpd module 19:46 < Keripo> though the "latest" mpdc build is still rufus' 19:46 < DerPapst> Keripo: iirc rvvs89 had those links before. maybe he hasn't updated because he wants to ask courtc for permission first, since he hasn't published this release officially. 19:46 < rconan> DerPapst, what rockbox builds are you running? 19:47 < calamari> anyone heard from slowcoder recently? 19:47 < DerPapst> hmm.. good question.. i belive they are from oktomer 07 19:47 < DerPapst> *october 19:47 < Keripo> DerPapst: ah, probably. either that or he forgot. he told me he was using 0.2 source or something 19:48 < DerPapst> Keripo: and iirc this archive from courtc doesn't contain the source. 19:48 < Keripo> yeah, the source is in another archive also on courtc's page 19:48 < rconan> DerPapst, ah... it's only the last month or so which had these issues 19:49 < Keripo> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdmodule-src-0.4.tar.gz 19:49 < DerPapst> umm.. heh 19:50 < Keripo> rconan: I suppose you can try checking the rockbox's svn activities to see what changes broke things? (not sure how often they make commits though) 19:50 < rconan> Keripo, so do i just extract the mpdmodule archive into /usr or does the mpd binary need to go in /bin ? 19:50 < Keripo> you can try compiling rockboxes from random past revisions and see which work ; P 19:51 < Keripo> er, just install as a normal module; the module handles tthe mpd starting and stopping 19:51 < rconan> Keripo, i found a build which works now. apparently it bears no relation to what was added or changed 19:51 < Keripo> it will freeze on its first time though 19:51 < rconan> Keripo, something to do with positioning in memory is assumed 19:52 < Keripo> mk, good to hear its resolved then 19:52 < DerPapst> Keripo: if you've figured out how to make oz2 and iploader2 default, let me know. i think it's ok if i unprotect the page so you can update it too. 19:52 < Keripo> no, its not a installation sources issue 19:53 < Keripo> I'll need to look at the installation source and patch it 19:53 < DerPapst> it's coded into installer 2? 19:53 < Keripo> which I should be doing now if I weren't typing ; p 19:53 < Keripo> yeah, installer 2 at least; not sure about podzilla 19:53 < rconan> Keripo, it might be better to make a patch which tells it to find the defaults on the sources page 19:54 < Keripo> rconan I suppose it'd also be a better patch that way, but I don't think theres many plans on maintaining installer 2 though 19:55 < Keripo> josh is gone (he told me he probably wont return though) and it's probably better if a new one was rewritten from scratch 19:55 < rconan> hmm... fair points 19:59 < rconan> Keripo, will the ipod be able to build the mpd database? it used to fail did it not? 20:00 < Keripo> I can't really remember unfortunately but I do know that it does screw up 20:00 < Keripo> it does create the database, but freezes afterwards ; / 20:03 < rconan> Keripo, how do i know when it has finished creating it? 20:03 < Keripo> you won't; thats the problem >_> 20:04 < Keripo> I forgot exactly how to make it work but those are basically the most up-to-date modukes 20:04 < rconan> Keripo, i could probably change the beginnings of the paths in the desktop mpd database and copy that 20:04 < rconan> or even just symlink /var/lib/mpd/music to the right place on the ipod 20:06 < Keripo> no, its nothing to do with the binary or such; its an issue with the startup process of the mpd module 20:06 < rconan> Keripo, i mean to avoid having to make the database at all 20:07 < Keripo> oh, no idea; I've never used mpd on linux before 20:08 -!- Hobz [n=Hobbes@unaffiliated/hobz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:10 -!- ashe613_is_sleep [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:10 < ashe613_is_sleep> i'm back 20:10 < ashe613_is_sleep> with renewed binary clock ability 20:11 -!- ashe613_is_sleep is now known as ashe613 20:35 -!- ashe613 [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:10 < Keripo> Wow, _finally_ found what to change to make loader2 the default and now I feel like an idiot 21:11 < Keripo> "loader1apple->setChecked (true);" -> "loader2->setChecked (true);" 21:11 < Keripo> test a bit more then patch 21:14 < DerPapst> heh 21:14 < DerPapst> nice work 21:14 < Keripo> I don't think I can change the default to podzilla 2 though; podzilla 0 is selected by default since its higher up on the list (alphabetically) 21:15 < Keripo> solution would either be to change the names so that podzilla2 comes before podzilla0, or just remove podzilla0 completely 21:17 < Keripo> or actually, just removing "default yes" from podzilla0 should work 21:17 < Keripo> not sure why both zillae say "default yes" >_> 21:19 < rconan> if i buy a 20GB 4G and switch the drives with my 40GB 3G will they both still work? 21:20 < Keripo> rconan: you'll probably have to do something with the firmware maybe since it probably wont recognize the extra space, but no idea 21:21 < rconan> Keripo, i was wondering about that... the 4G comes in larger models so if i restored the firmware using itunes surely it would just think it was a large one? 21:21 < Keripo> yup, now the installer selects loader 2 by default but the installation sources have to be changed to remove the "default yes" on podzilla 0 21:21 < Keripo> rconan: not sure but I remember reading somewhere back that your iPod's model was also determined by your serial number, but I'm not sure if that applies to sizes 21:21 < DerPapst> rconan: i think it will work without issues. 21:22 < Keripo> go ahead if you want to try, but make sure you have a steady hand I suppose 21:22 < DerPapst> however the 40GB drive is physically larger. 21:22 < DerPapst> so it might not fit. 21:22 < rconan> Keripo, I've had the hard drive out of this one a few times when i've had no hard drives to build computers with 21:23 < Keripo> thats good then; hack away 21:23 < Keripo> right, I remember reading about a 120 toshiba harddrive hack a while ago, so it should be possible 21:24 < DerPapst> Keripo: i'll update once again ;-) 21:24 < rconan> Keripo, i'll just have to wait until i have some money to buy the 4G... 21:24 < Keripo> sure, I'll let my iPod restore one more time then... 21:24 < DerPapst> the newer hardrives use the ZIF connector. 21:24 < rconan> ZIF connector? 21:24 < DerPapst> so they only work in the iPod Video 21:25 < DerPapst> here is a nice chart http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 21:25 < DerPapst> also for iPods. 21:28 < Keripo> http://ipl.nonb.org/attachment/ticket/66/installer.cc.patch 21:28 < Keripo> http://ipl.nonb.org/attachment/ticket/66 21:28 < Keripo> whoops 21:28 < Keripo> http://ipl.nonb.org/ticket/66 21:28 < DerPapst> Keripo: how that works ;-) http://ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=iPodLinux%3AInstallation_sources&diff=0&oldid=19089 21:29 < Keripo> I'm pretty sure the loader that appears is determined by the installer, but I'll try 21:29 < DerPapst> heh 21:30 < Keripo> but need to restore using iTunes again first ; P 21:30 < DerPapst> i should have updated the explanation too :-/ 21:30 < Keripo> yeah, you need to add that its depreciated or something like that 21:30 < DerPapst> well.. look ok though :-) 21:31 < DerPapst> i'll address that with the next edit. i have that feeling it wasn't the last. 21:32 < Keripo> yup ; ) 21:35 < Keripo> hm, for one, the old ipodloader still needs a "default yes" since if the user chooses to use an older version, no loader is selected (the installer auto-chooses which loader depending on the user choice) 21:35 < Keripo> but podzilla is still selected by default ; / 21:36 < Keripo> maybe move the podzilla line to after podzilla 2? 21:36 < Keripo> wait, I'll test something 21:36 < DerPapst> k 21:37 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:38 -!- GodEater [n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:39 < Keripo> nope, that wont change it ; / 21:39 < DerPapst> heh 21:40 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:41 < Keripo> yup, just move the podzilla2 line above the podzilla0 line 21:42 < Keripo> and podzilla2 gets selected by default 21:42 < Keripo> no magic there 21:42 < DerPapst> odd. 21:42 < DerPapst> but i'll do so ;-) 21:43 < Keripo> keep the "default yes" for pz0 removed though 21:43 < Keripo> not sure if it'll affect anything but it shouldn't be defaulted yes anyways 21:44 < Keripo> if rufus fixes his script tomorrow then installer 2 should be pretty much fixed 21:45 * DerPapst serches a nicer word for outdated. Obsolete? 21:45 < Keripo> I can only build for Windows though (haven't tried building on Slax) so we'll need to wait for the devs to commit the patch and build new versions for all the targets (fxb can only build for win and linux-86) 21:45 < Keripo> er, "Depreciated" is more proper 21:46 < Keripo> also remove "main" from the description if you're keeping the old one 21:47 < Keripo> also dont forget to put "default yes" back for the old loader 21:47 < Keripo> otherwise someone might purposely select the old loader but end up with no loader 21:47 < Keripo> or a crash (didn't try) 21:48 < Keripo> once you've updated I'll try one last time (need to leave the house for a moment) 21:49 < DerPapst> ok 21:49 < DerPapst> i'll click submit now ;-) 21:50 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=iPodLinux:Installation_sources&curid=2299&diff=0&oldid=19090&rcid=24905 21:55 < Keripo> what the - podzilla0 is still the default >_< 21:55 < Keripo> need to test more >_< 21:56 < DerPapst> bummer -.-' 21:57 < DerPapst> installer 2 is a miracle. 21:57 < DerPapst> ;-) 21:57 < Keripo> ghaaahh, when I download the sources and save it as packages.ipl for an offline install, it has podzilla2 as default >_< 21:58 < DerPapst> heh 21:58 < Keripo> josh really made it all so confusing >_< 21:58 < DerPapst> maybe it's cashed? have you checked the describtions? 21:58 < DerPapst> bah 21:58 < DerPapst> spelling 21:59 < Keripo> no, both cases its the new descripts 21:59 < DerPapst> hm.. 21:59 < DerPapst> that's odd. 21:59 < Keripo> maybe its the url... 21:59 < Keripo> I think I'll play around with my unofficial_sources page and try it 22:00 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:05 -!- uwe__ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-028-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-008-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:40 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:47 -!- ashe613 [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:47 < ashe613> ok, i'm getting stuck trying to put linux on a nano, i know it's not officially supported, but can anyone help? 22:49 < ashe613> is it ok to use the iPod Linux Installer for mac? 22:50 < ashe613> i presume not, as it doesn't work... 22:53 < DerPapst> use http://ipodlinux.org/Manual_Installation 22:53 < DerPapst> don't use installers for macpods 22:53 < BHSPitLappy> ashe613, is it a first-generation nano? If not, then you're out of luck. 22:53 < DerPapst> they are all outdated and/or broken 22:53 < DerPapst> the manual installation for macpods is fairly easy. 22:54 < BHSPitLappy> (If it's a colorful aluminum nano, no linux.) 22:54 < ashe613> BHSPitLappy: it's 1st gen black 22:54 < BHSPitLappy> is it a winpod or a macpod? 22:55 < ashe613> macpod 22:55 < ashe613> using this: 22:55 < ashe613> http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 22:55 < DerPapst> it's outdated 22:55 < ashe613> ok 22:55 < ashe613> thanks 22:55 < ashe613> everyone 22:58 * DerPapst adds a warning. 23:04 < ashe613> ok 23:04 < ashe613> bye 23:04 -!- ashe613 [n=same@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["ashe613 fell asleep, cos the conversation is soo boring"] 23:16 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:29 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:41 -!- ashe613 [n=mac35@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:42 < ashe613> HELP 23:42 < ashe613> 1G Nano, confused at this line in tutorial: 23:42 < ashe613> Rename the kernel to linux.bin and place it in the root of your HFS+ partition. 23:42 < ashe613> where is the root? 23:43 < ashe613> of the hfs+ partition 23:43 < ashe613> 'pod is mounted at /dev/disk2 23:45 < ashe613> i know it's unsupported but, please, it;s the last thing as it didn't work when i put it into /Volumes/The\ pPod/linux.bin 23:45 < ashe613> anyone? 23:46 < ashe613> it's a macpod 23:47 < DerPapst> you said that 23:47 < DerPapst> and you have to be patient. 23:47 < DerPapst> people don't spend all the time in irc just waiting for someone to ask a question. 23:47 < ashe613> ok 23:47 < ashe613> can u help? 23:47 < ashe613> please? 23:47 < DerPapst> btw.. have you noticed that most references to root are a link? 23:49 < DerPapst> even in the quote from you root is a link 23:49 < ashe613> yes, but why i ask is that linus doesn't show up in the bootlaoder, despite the fact that i dragged it into the root folder... 23:49 < DerPapst> click on it 23:49 < ashe613> i have 23:49 < DerPapst> and you'll get a explanation. 23:50 < ashe613> yes, but it hasn't worked. if it had, i wouldn't be here 23:50 < DerPapst> what? are you saying the link is broken? 23:51 < ashe613> no, the thing isn't working on my ipod 23:52 < ashe613> in the bootloader, only mac, disk, or sleep comesup... 23:52 < DerPapst> ok. 23:52 < DerPapst> wait a sec. 23:52 < DerPapst> could you try this loader? http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/iPL/loader.zip 23:53 < ashe613> just replace it? 23:53 < ashe613> or do the whole long precess 23:53 < ashe613> process 23:53 < DerPapst> yes update it with ipodpatcher 23:53 < DerPapst> only reinstall the bootloader 23:53 < ashe613> ok, brb 23:57 -!- rager [n=rager@rrcs-24-153-182-94.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:58 < ashe613> getting "resource busy" error every time, even with unmount 23:58 < ashe613> will try gui unmount 23:59 < ashe613> no error 23:59 < ashe613> ok, done, restart 23:59 < ashe613> ? --- Log closed Sat Jan 05 00:00:00 2008