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#ipodlinux 13:16 < rconan> hello people 13:17 < rconan> is the segmentation fault installing from linux amd64 to a 3g a known issue? 13:19 < rconan> the only unusual message before it says "Device didn't send expected data" 13:44 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:57 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 14:11 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:21 -!- YAemptyMind [n=chatzill@ppp-210-82.31-151.libero.it] has joined #ipodlinux 14:31 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-82-24.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:41 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-82-24.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 14:41 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-82-24.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined 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finished 15:19 < rvvs89> That sentence was redundant 15:20 < DerPapst> heh 15:20 < DerPapst> but cool though 15:20 < rvvs89> Anyway, as the version of a particular module isn't necessarily packaged anywhere in the source, I've had to manually go through and set the version of each module that was not from SVN 15:21 < DerPapst> could you exclude mdp, mpdc, libstdcxx and pthreadstubs from the SVN package? 15:21 < rvvs89> I'm not quite finished doing that, so modules that do not have an associated version file will default to version "1.0" 15:21 < DerPapst> then we could use that for installer 2 15:22 < rvvs89> I don't think I will, I'll probably create another archive for the installer that excludes those 15:22 < rvvs89> It is "SVN Modules" after all 15:23 < rvvs89> Meh, I'm sorry to hold this up, but I'm incredibly tired tonight 15:23 < DerPapst> heh 15:23 < DerPapst> no worries 15:24 < DerPapst> installer 2 is broken for almost half a year. 15:24 < rvvs89> Yeah, true :< 15:24 < DerPapst> 2 days more or less doesn'T change anything :-P 15:25 < DerPapst> rvvs89: infact, if you do make install libstdcxx and pthreadstubs are excluded. 15:25 < DerPapst> iirc 15:26 < rvvs89> DerPapst: Yeah, I'll probably make a hidden .installer2mods.tar.gz or something 15:26 < fxb> rvvs89: could you please check http://rvvs89.ucc.asn.au/ipl/nightly/podzilla2.tar.gz 15:26 < fxb> it's just 45 bytes 15:27 < Drgb> dude, that's what they mean with _light kernel_ 15:29 < rvvs89> fxb: Yeah, crond caught me off-guard :P, I'll run an old copy of the build script to fix that up, should have the rest of it working within ~24 hours 15:32 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:35 < rvvs89> fxb: Builds are sane again, I've removed the script from my crontab for the moment 15:36 < rvvs89> Right, need to sleep, laters 15:40 * DerPapst waves 15:40 < DerPapst> night rvvs89 15:58 -!- Mathiasdm 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I was lazy and i didn't use it much anyways, so I put it in a box. I took it out the other day and I'm trying to install linux on it again. Only problem is, when I do ipodpatcher --scan, i get 18:23 < hdevalence> [INFO] Scanning disk devices... 18:23 < hdevalence> [ERR] No ipods found. 18:27 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:27 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 18:31 -!- Noisey [n=Noisey@host86-134-75-205.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:32 -!- Noisey [n=Noisey@host86-134-75-205.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:32 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@ANantes-154-1-82-24.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ipodlinux ["Ex-Chat"] 18:33 < DerPapst> hdevalence: are you running ipodpatcher as root? 18:33 < DerPapst> and have you modified your iPods firmware or partition layout in any ways? 18:34 < hdevalence> DerPapst: No, and Yes. I think 18:34 < rconan> fxb, sorry... i was away for a while. it's a 3g ipod and the installer segfaults just after making the backup 18:34 < hdevalence> DerPapst: between the time i first installed and now I started using linux and i learned a lot - but at the time i really had no idea what i was doing 18:34 < DerPapst> hdevalence: so you changed the partitionlayout? 18:36 < hdevalence> DerPapst: yeah 18:36 < DerPapst> have you touched the firmware partition in any way? e.g. resizing it? 18:36 < hdevalence> DerPapst: yes 18:37 < fxb> rconan: That "Device didn't send expected data" is not related to that. 18:37 < DerPapst> that might be the problem since ipodpatcher checks for some magic in the firmware partition 18:37 < fxb> I also get segfaults when doing or restoring a backup. 18:37 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-86-27-236-133.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:38 < DerPapst> always those remotes... 18:38 < hdevalence> DerPapst: right now I have /dev/sd[a-e] but only sda gives me any output using fdisk -l 18:39 < DerPapst> and you're sure it's your ipod? 18:39 < hdevalence> DerPapst: No, sda is my laptop hard drive 18:39 < DerPapst> heh 18:39 < DerPapst> but the ipod is connected (preferably in diskmode)? 18:40 < hdevalence> DerPapst: The ipod is connected, but it's not being recognized 18:40 < DerPapst> and it's in diskmode? 18:41 < hdevalence> DerPapst: I'm not sure. At the time, I think I had it in diskmode, but I messed up the install. at any rate, right now it won't boot. I think that's the problem. 18:41 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-86-27-236-133.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 < hdevalence> DerPapst: well, I get the apple logo, and then nothing. I tried doing the 'restore' thing from a windows pc, but windows doesn't recognize it as anything. 18:42 < DerPapst> try to force it into diskmode http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations 18:42 < rconan> fxb, i take it there is no fix as of yet then... iirc i had a little trouble with it last time i tried to install using hte installer which was a good few months ago 18:43 < DerPapst> then you can access the hdd and restore or do whatever... 18:43 < fxb> rconan: try manually installing iPodLinux. 18:43 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 18:43 < rconan> fxb is there any up to date documentation about doing that? 18:44 < fxb> http://ipodlinux.org/Manual_Installation 18:47 < hdevalence> DerPapst: I got it to reboot, and now I get a screen with a battery low / charging icon. 18:48 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:49 < DerPapst> heh 18:49 < DerPapst> can you charge it for a while with a wallcharger? best would be a firewire one. 18:49 < DerPapst> or a firewire connection to a PC 18:50 < Keripo> hehe, I'm on on a roll ; P Compiled an uploaded a clean podzilla0 build for Installer 2 sources 18:50 < Keripo> http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Podzilla0-cvs-09-28-2005.gz 18:50 < Keripo> DerPapst, you can update the installer sources page again 18:50 < hdevalence> DerPapst: I don't think I have a firewire cable. (I *had* one, but I have no idea where it is...) 18:50 < DerPapst> jub. will do. 18:51 < DerPapst> hdevalence: firewire charges way faster then USB. 18:51 < DerPapst> if you cannot find the cable you have to try to charge the ipod for a while using USB 18:52 < Keripo> hdevalence: make sure you don't sync or do file transfer while you're charging though 18:52 < DerPapst> Keripo: i wonder... iirc pz0 is still in SVN. 18:53 < Keripo> nope, pz0 isn't in svn as far as I know. I retrieved it from the old CVS 18:53 < Keripo> unless its somewhere I didn't notice 18:53 < DerPapst> i guess so 18:53 < DerPapst> legacy stuff. 18:53 < Keripo> whoops, nevermind, seems it is in svn 18:54 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ipodlinux/legacy/podzilla/ 18:54 < DerPapst> :-P 18:54 < Keripo> exact same as the CVS one though 18:54 < hdevalence> seeing as how I can't find the ipod and neither can the kde mounthelper, I don't think it'll be a problem. 18:54 < Keripo> the last item in both changelos is leachbj's fixs 18:55 < Keripo> discounting courtc's "Great Befuddlement" ; P 18:55 < DerPapst> hdevalence: well the battery might be "broken" since you didn't used the ipod for almost 2 years. Maybe it discharged too much. 18:57 < hdevalence> hope not 18:58 < DerPapst> Keripo: i don't think we need Image:Podzilla0-cvs-09-28-2005-src.tar.gz then anymore do we? 18:59 < Keripo> nope, don't suppose so 19:00 < Keripo> are all the compiling libraries also in svn? 19:00 < DerPapst> umm... i guess not. 19:00 < DerPapst> are they in your tar.gz? 19:00 < DerPapst> if so maybe we should leave it then 19:01 < Keripo> whoops, no they aren't 19:02 < Keripo> they were all taken from external sources 19:02 < Keripo> so they were never part of cvs 19:02 < DerPapst> Keripo: btw do you know how this part has to look now with the *.gz you uploaded? "[file] podzilla CVS-YYYYMMDD:" 19:02 < DerPapst> no 19:02 < Keripo> the same 19:02 < DerPapst> ok. 19:02 < Keripo> since I just .gzed the compiled binary 19:03 < Keripo> which is actually named podzilla0-cvs-09-28-2005 19:03 < Keripo> though instead of [file] podzilla CVS-YYYYMMDD: 19:03 < Keripo> it should be [file] podzilla CVS-2005-09-28:" 19:04 < DerPapst> heh... mkay. 19:06 < DerPapst> hmm.. the old style of naming the pz0 gzs was a bit different i guess... 19:06 < Keripo> hm, should I upload the compiled library files that I used to compile pz0? I remember them being pretty hasslesome to compile in the past (especially microwindows which I think I got from someone else) 19:07 < DerPapst> hmm.. no it wasn't. 19:07 < DerPapst> odd odd... 19:07 < Keripo> I'm pretty sure the old style was right though; / 19:08 < DerPapst> i'm looking at the netless windows installer for an example... 19:08 < Keripo> but CVS-YYYYMMDD needs to be changed to just CVS or SVN or CVS-20050928 19:08 < DerPapst> jost even didn't bother changing YYYYMMDD in the filename either... 19:09 < Keripo> oh, the YYYYMMDD is processed by installer2 - installer 2 has a thing where it checks the versions of the builds or something 19:09 < DerPapst> ... at podzilla-CVS-YYYYMMDD.gz to ... 19:09 < rconan> wierd 19:09 < rconan> i have a 42 cylinder firmware partition 19:09 < DerPapst> meh.. installer 2s installation sources are somewhat complicated :-) 19:09 < Keripo> [file] podzilla CVS-20050928: "The main graphical interface for iPodLinux, old version." at http://ipodlinux.org/images/e/ea/Podzilla0-cvs-09-28-2005.gz to /bin/podzilla provides zilla default yes supports ~B 19:10 * DerPapst tries something and waits for complains. 19:10 < rconan> might be because i installed the loader for rockbox on there? 19:10 < Keripo> use that line since using YYYYMMDD might cause wierdness 19:10 < hdevalence> DerPapst: about how long should I let it charge? 19:11 < DerPapst> hdevalence: if you only can use usb i think a few hours maybe around 4 or more. with firewire one is enough. 19:13 < DerPapst> Keripo: updated. any blame goes to you ;-) 19:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 19:13 < Keripo> 10-4 19:14 -!- Keripo [n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:16 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-86-27-236-133.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:16 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:17 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < DerPapst> = 6... though i dunno what keripo wanted to say with that :-P 19:20 < fxb> "I understand your transmission" 19:20 * DerPapst bets josh slaps him for messing with the installation sources once he comes back ^^ 19:22 * fxb hopes josh fixes the whole Installer 2 issues once he comes back ^^ :P 19:22 < DerPapst> heh 19:23 < fxb> I can fix some things, but there are bugs I can't find and understand. 19:23 < DerPapst> e.g.? 19:23 < fxb> error 10 19:23 < fxb> It'd be easier for me to write a new installer :P 19:24 < DerPapst> go go go! 19:24 < DerPapst> i have the feling it's because of other programs still accessing the ipod. 19:25 < DerPapst> to bad that there is only something similar to eject on windows and no umount 19:25 < fxb> yeah, I added code to kill iPodService.exe (but you need special right for that) 19:25 < DerPapst> which is OK, since the installer has to be run as root anyways. 19:25 < fxb> and it still crashed while restoring the backup 19:26 < fxb> root on windows :P 19:26 < DerPapst> well... 19:26 < fxb> I am admininstrator on my pc. 19:26 < DerPapst> there are some people who only log in as guest ;-) 19:26 < fxb> But it still says "Access denied" 19:26 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:27 < DerPapst> bummer 19:27 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 19:27 < DerPapst> i hate it when windowsa tells me to ask the admin to fix my problems... 19:27 < hdevalence> DerPapst: "But I AM the system administrator!!!" 19:28 < DerPapst> hehehe... exactly :-) 19:28 < fxb> And the installer copies the loader to the iPods ext2 partition and then loads it from there to insert it into the firmware partition and then loads everything back to the iPod. 19:28 < fxb> I don't understand why josh did it like that. 19:29 < DerPapst> heh. back then when temple improved loader 2 i though i just have to replace the loader binary on the ext partition 19:29 < DerPapst> ^^ 19:29 < DerPapst> because of that 19:29 < fxb> I wanted a built-in ipodpatcher to do all that, but then I'd need to resturcture the whole installer. 19:29 < DerPapst> *tempel 19:31 < DerPapst> i doN't like the fact that ipodpatcher fails to detect the ipod if someone touched the firmware partition with fdisk... 19:32 < DerPapst> already 2 reports about that. and shrinking the fw partition is still the recommended on "older" ipods that aloow this 19:32 < DerPapst> but i don't want to bug linuxstb always because of that. :-/ 19:33 -!- syamajala2 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:33 -!- Mathiasdm [n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Yuuw!"] 19:33 < fxb> what's the error message for ipodpatcher? 19:36 < DerPapst> it simply didn't detect the ipods anymore 19:36 < DerPapst> fxb: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29051 19:36 < DerPapst> a nice example. 19:37 < DerPapst> and hdevalence seems to have the same problem. 19:37 < DerPapst> as far as i can tell... 19:39 -!- abbyz [n=abbyz@cosspar.cs.indiana.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 < fxb> you could change silent to 0 in ipod_scan 19:40 < abbyz> hello, i just installed IPL on a 10GB 2G ipod. I am able to boot to ipodLinux but the screen is not bright enough to let me read the menu (and the selections) 19:40 < fxb> ipod_open and ipod_partinfo. second arguments 19:41 < fxb> then it would give more information where it failed. 19:42 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:42 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 < fxb> probably somewhere in read_partinfo 19:42 < DerPapst> haven't looked to closely into ipodpatcher yet. maybe one could use the scsi inq...dings in ipodpatcher too. 19:43 < DerPapst> not sure how much work it would be though 19:43 < DerPapst> also some had the idea to use somekind of --fore option. 19:43 < DerPapst> *--force 19:43 < fxb> yeah, i linked linuxstb to my code, but he said detecting iPod would work without it :P 19:46 < fxb> oh, and there is no implementation for OS X 19:46 < DerPapst> i remeber... but he didn't want to implement any more stuff since ipodpatcher is intentinally meant for installing the rockbox loader. 19:46 < DerPapst> meh... typos :-P 19:48 < DerPapst> however as long as we provide patches and/or source we could also make a fork of ipodpatcher. but maybe that would be too much. 19:54 -!- hhhew [n=xboxhheh@162.84.181.19] has joined #ipodlinux 20:01 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 -!- hhehw [n=xboxhheh@pool-71-247-232-116.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Network is unreachable] 20:11 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-82-3-229-44.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:13 < rconan> any recommendations on what to do with a 42 cylinder firmware partition? 20:13 < rconan> p 20:15 < DerPapst> hm? i don't understand... 20:16 < rconan> DerPapst, was that directed at me? 20:19 < DerPapst> yep 20:20 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 20:20 < rconan> DerPapst, i was wondering how much I can take off my 42 cylinder firmware partition to make the linux partition 20:20 < DerPapst> i don't quiet get what you're actually asking. ;-) 20:20 < DerPapst> depends on your ipods generation 20:20 < rconan> DerPapst, 3G 20:21 < DerPapst> iirc the fw partition is 64MB so it would be ok to shrink it ~31MB... 20:22 < DerPapst> "If your firmware partition is neither 33 nor 5 cylinders, try splitting it roughly in half; ask us if you have questions." 20:22 < DerPapst> this is what i wrote on the Manual Installation page. 20:22 < rconan> DerPapst, asking you is what I am doing 20:23 < DerPapst> so maybe try to shrink the fw partition to ~22 Cylinder 20:23 < rconan> DerPapst, how large is the firmware? the partition is currently 41330688 bytes 20:23 < DerPapst> but make the backups first incase it doesn't work. 20:23 < rconan> DerPapst, that's alright I just restored it anyway 20:24 < DerPapst> uh... i guess with all images not larger than 13MB 20:25 < rconan> so I could drop it to 15 ok 20:25 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@139-156.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 < DerPapst> well i'm not too sure. maybe add some cylinders for safety. ;-) 20:28 < fxb> 3G firmware: 4,3 MB 20:28 < fxb> At least the one downloaded from apple. 20:28 < rconan> fxb, that's tiny 20:29 < fxb> version 2.2.3 20:31 < rconan> fxb, I thought mine was 2.3 20:31 < rconan> is there a way i can generate the stuff that will be written on the partition to see the size without writing it 20:31 < fxb> rconan: yeah, i meant that. 2.3 20:32 < fxb> the 2 in front of that indicates it's a 3G firmware 20:32 -!- hdevalence- [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177701291.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 < rconan> fxb, ah... ok 20:32 < DerPapst> the first 2 referes to the generation... 20:32 < DerPapst> but in a not "logical" way though. 20:32 < rconan> fxb, just ran the ipodpatcher thing and it's only writing 3487744 bytes so I can take loads for the linux part 20:33 < fxb> 5G firmwares are about 13 MB 20:33 < fxb> Nano firmwares even bigger, because of Nike + iPod 20:33 < DerPapst> i wan't sure with the aupd image... but that is tiny i guess.. 512kb or similar ;-) 20:33 -!- hdevalence [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1128700781.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:34 < fxb> 21,8 MB exactly 20:34 < fxb> aupd should be 1 MB 20:34 < rconan> fxb, my calculations show i can leave only 4 cylinders for the firmware and take 38 for the linux part 20:34 < DerPapst> but then 512 zero padding. IIRC the aupd image only contains 512kb worth of executable data 20:35 < DerPapst> but whatever. 20:35 < DerPapst> the flash rom is 1MB in size 20:35 < fxb> aupd = flash 20:36 < DerPapst> umm yes. the image itsself is 1MB too. but contains 512KB zero padding iirc. that is waht i wanted to say. 20:37 < fxb> the aupd image is encrypted and gets written to the flash rom when the iPod updates. 20:37 < DerPapst> it's not encrypted on 1G to 3G iPods. 20:37 < DerPapst> and i know that :-P 20:37 < hdevalence-> DerPapst: I can't get it to reboot using menu+select 20:38 < DerPapst> hdevalence-: maybe you have to charge it longer. USB charging is sloooow. 20:38 < fxb> DerPapst: the flashs i have here have about 512 bytes padding but now kB :P 20:38 < hdevalence-> DerPapst: I got it to reboot on almost no battery before... 20:38 < DerPapst> meh... fxb 1:0 DerPapst 20:39 < DerPapst> hdevalence-: have you tried to flip hold on and off again? 20:39 < hdevalence-> DerPapst: yeah 20:39 < hdevalence-> DerPapst: and I held it fairly log, up to 30s 20:39 < DerPapst> hdevalence-: i've heared from cases where they had to charge it almost one day via USB. 20:40 < DerPapst> and also i heared that it can take up to 1 minute in some wired cases. 20:40 -!- hdevalence_ [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177700936.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 -!- hdevalence_ [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177700936.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ipodlinux [""thanks for the help""] 20:41 -!- hdevalence- [n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177701291.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:42 < fxb> DerPapst: mmh, but there is a lot of 0xFF padding in there... 20:44 < DerPapst> heh.. i haven't looked too closely on aupd images yet. It's just something i heared :-P 20:50 -!- syamajala2 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:52 < rconan> fxb, i appear to have messed up my firmware partition now 20:53 < rconan> fxb, is there a way to make the thing that should be on there and write it by hand? 20:53 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 20:54 < fxb> rconan: make_fw can generate patched firmware images 20:54 < rconan> cool 21:01 < rconan> sorted 21:01 < rconan> must have messed up from doing the ipodpatcher before the partition editting 21:05 -!- rager [n=rager@72.54.14.130] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:09 -!- Rhoruns_ [n=Rhoruns@ip68-228-199-27.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:11 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 -!- syamajala2 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:31 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:31 -!- Rhoruns_ [n=Rhoruns@ip68-228-199-27.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["NOOOOOOOOB"] 21:39 -!- syamajala2 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:05 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-008-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:18 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 22:19 -!- uwe__ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-062-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:32 -!- BeckieRGB [n=beckie@adsl-75-61-91-40.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host9-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:05 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:12 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p5B23C3EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:12 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 23:15 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:28 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@139-156.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Fri Jan 04 00:00:00 2008