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00:13 < Keripo> I see complaints about Installer 2 again ; /
00:14 < Keripo> Should I compile some SVN versions or would it not be worth bothering? (not sure if the SVN versions have fixed any issues other than the Sysinfo skip)
00:22 < Keripo> rvvs89, are your nightlies packaged in the same way as the old nightlies (ie. tar'd or gunzipped such that they'll work with Installer 2)?
00:23 < Keripo> (might as well just build a working networked installer 2 that uses up-to-date nightlies and other things)
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00:47 < Ranbee> hi, does ipodlinux work with linux? i installed mine with ipodwizard, but i only have linux computers and i want to install some themes, i extracted them in the schemes directory but i can see them when i run it! do i need ipodwizard to install a theme?
00:48 < Ranbee> *can't see them
00:50 < Ranbee> !themes
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01:06 < Ranbee> actually, maybe i installed some games on the ipod using ipodwizard and install ipodlinux using linux, i used some script i found. i know you're glad i told you that.
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02:13 < Keripo> anyone know the differences from the kernel on the wiki (http://www.ipodlinux.org/images/7/79/Linux-2.4.32-ipod2-cc.bin.gz) and the SVN patches?
02:18 < fxb> uclinux-2.4.32 + CVS as of 2007-08-29
02:20 < Keripo> I'll assume then that it has both the nano ide and 5g sound level fixes then ; )
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03:02 < Keripo> http://www.mediafire.com/?a99dtngymn3 <- Installer 2 (networked) from SVN for Windows, uses Rufus' SVN builds
03:02 < Keripo> anyone capable of trying it? (I don't have an iPod to test it with ; / )
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15:36 < quaal> does ipod linux make the ipod just like a regular removable device
15:37 < quaal> so that i can drag and drop music onto it
15:37 < terry7495> anyone know how to mount ipod touch on linux??
15:37 < rvvs89> terry7495: Wrong channel
15:37 < terry7495> ipodlinux?
15:37 < quaal> no but i'm pretty sure i remember reading they did something to new ipods to make them usable with itunes
15:37 < terry7495> what channel should i go to then
15:38 < quaal> terry7495, this channel is for the ipod firmware ipodlinux 
15:38 < quaal> not necessarily for connecting ipods in linux
15:38 < rvvs89> terry7495: This is about running Linux on your iPod, not for using your iPod with a Linux desktop machine
15:39 < rvvs89> quaal: iPodLinux does not have a USB driver
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15:39 < rvvs89> So, you have to use the emergency Apple diskmode or the Apple firmware for transferring files
15:39 < quaal> rvvs89, oh.
15:39 < quaal> so i guess it will be the same mess of having to deal with an app like itunes 
15:39 < quaal> to get files on it
15:40 < rvvs89> No... You can drag and drop files to it
15:40 < quaal> oh.
15:40 < quaal> awesome then
15:40 < rvvs89> Which OS are you running?
15:40 < quaal> ubuntu
15:41 < rvvs89> Oh, you mean for transferring music that you can listen to using the Apple firmware?
15:41 < rvvs89> Yeah, in that case you'll have to use an iTunes-like-app
15:41 < quaal> oh.
15:41 < rvvs89> Or an alternative firmware
15:41 < quaal> weak
15:41 < rvvs89> Like Rockbox
15:41 < quaal> know of a firmware that allows drag and drop? 
15:41 < quaal> ah
15:41 < rvvs89> Or you can install MPD in iPL
15:42 < quaal> music player daemon ?
15:42 < quaal> i run that 
15:42 < rvvs89> Yes, and you can use the MPD client in podzilla to interact with it
15:42 < quaal> hmm
15:42 < rvvs89> However, rockbox is generally easier for just listening to music
15:43 < quaal> so you can install mpd on an ipod ?
15:44 < rvvs89> Indeed, but it's a bit rough around the edges
15:44 < quaal> interesting
15:44 < quaal> just downloaded rockbox
15:45 < quaal> i imagine i'll lose all my music on the ipod when i install
15:45 < rvvs89> No, it'll stay there
15:45 < quaal> oh
15:45 < rvvs89> Rockbox installation is drag and drop + run ipodpatcher
15:45 < quaal> i see
15:45 < rvvs89> iPL installation usually involves partitioning, which will make you lose all music
15:45 < quaal> and this will somehow make the ipod like any usb hard drive, just drag and drop music to it, then i can listen to it on the ipod
15:46 < rvvs89> Rockbox is #rockbox by the way
15:46 < quaal> ok
15:46 < rvvs89> It's an alternative firmware
15:46 < quaal> thanks bud
15:46 < rvvs89> So yes
15:46 < quaal> appreciate it
15:46 < rvvs89> No worries
15:47 < quaal> the other major annoyance i have (well, there are several) is that i cant put something under "Audiobooks" unless it is in .aac format
15:47 < quaal> worst ever
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21:34 < davidc__> Oi. Can anyone draw? The devs need an icon for an open source project we're working on [only sorta iPod related]
21:38 < zacaj> Barely
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21:57 < KB3POF> Is there currently an iPod Linux installer for the iPod Nano 2nd Generation?
21:59 < KB3POF> nevermind
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23:26 < Keripo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixo
23:27 < Keripo> Does that mean what we often refer to as the iPod's "Apple OS" is actually "Pixo Interface" ?
23:27 < Keripo> or "Pixo OS"?
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23:40 < Keripo> oh, and to davidc, I can draw pretty decently (by hand or computer). Could I be of any help?
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23:47 < Cannoli> what install guide do you reccomend for a 5.5g winpod?
23:47 < Cannoli> i tried the manual install but came up with errors at the end
23:47 < davidc__> Keripo: we're working on a replacement for a program called IDA. Our program is named dismember - its an interactive disassembler used for "ripping apart" binaries ;)
23:47 < davidc__> Keripo: I'm looking for some icons :)
23:48 < davidc__> Keripo: so if you're bored, that'd be great!
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23:49 < billeniumXP> hey
23:49 < billeniumXP> i get an error when trying to install it
23:49 < billeniumXP> Error Code: 0
23:49 < Keripo> any shapes/figures in particular?
23:50 < Keripo> (I'm picturing hammer and iPod at the moment >_>)
23:50 < Keripo> or chainsaw
23:50 < billeniumXP> rock
23:51 < billeniumXP> great support
23:51 < Cannoli> anyone?
23:51 < Keripo> billenium, you haven't given much info; what is your iPod model?
23:52 < Keripo> to Cannoli, you can search for an try my ZeroSlackr - it's unsupported by the official dev team but works
23:52 < davidc__> Keripo: its not iPod specific
23:52 < Cannoli> ~ Keripo ~ can u help me with install of ipl on 5.5g winpod?
23:53 < davidc__> Keripo: I used it on a bunch of iPhone things. Its multiplatform.. I like the chainsaw metaphor.. but maybe chainsaw on a file, or on code, ro something
23:53 < Cannoli> i would try that but i feel going through linux and partitioning everything myself makes it more customizable
23:53 < Keripo> @cannoli - try an older networkess installer 2 then
23:54 < billeniumXP> Keripo: iPod nano 1st GEneration. I opened the installer. then it gave me error code 0
23:54 < Keripo> @ cannoli - I've also posted a link to an SVN build of Installer 2 that uses recent nightlies on the Installer2 talk page, but I haven't tested it myself yet
23:54 < Cannoli> sorry what i mean to say is, i dont want an installer
23:55 < Cannoli> i want to do it myself
23:55 < Keripo> oh, then manual install is your best guide
23:55 < billeniumXP> =(
23:55 < Cannoli> i tried that but my ipod doesnt let me write on to it afterwards
23:55 < Keripo> @ bill: make sure everything is right. Is your iPod plugged in? is itunes killed? etc
23:57 < Keripo> @ davidc - I'll look around the open clipart library and think of something; I'm leaning towards a chainsaw/hammer ripping through an executable icon
23:58 < Keripo> or I'll just vector my own
23:59 < davidc__> Keripo: vector might be good, it should look nice as a high-rez mac icon
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