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01:01 < HalotoLink> hey, i need some help
01:05 < HalotoLink> hello?
01:06 < DataGhost> Yes, I need help as well!
01:06 < DataGhost> Although, unless I tell you what I need help with, you can't help me, can you?
01:06 < HalotoLink> Whats your problem, since they won't answer?
01:06 < HalotoLink> probably not
01:06 < DataGhost> Ah, you figured as much! Nice!
01:06 < HalotoLink> yeah, but whats wrong?
01:07 < DataGhost> Well, someone is asking for help, but he won't tell me what he needs help with. I don't know what I should tell him.
01:07 < HalotoLink> lol oh well, my only problem is that the installer wont recognize my ipod
01:08 < DataGhost> Ok, so what is 'the installer' and what is 'your iPod'?
01:08 < DataGhost> Several different combinations of those exist
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01:08 < MAA> whats up
01:09 < MAA> you guys heard anything about the new games
01:09 < MAA> for ipod'
01:09 < HalotoLink> hi just problems, its a 5th gen ipod and the installer for ipodlinux
01:09 < DataGhost> MAA: http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Recentchanges possibly
01:09 < HalotoLink> http://ipodlinux.org/Installer_2
01:09 < HalotoLink> that one
01:10 < DataGhost> you're sure it's a 5th gen?
01:10 < DataGhost> http://ipodlinux.org/Generations#Fifth_Generation_.285G.29_.2F_Fifth_Generation_Enhanced_.285.5G.29 read the green bit
01:12 < DataGhost> (oh, and Installer 2 tends to fail often, judging by the amount of questions about it on the forums. If you actually have a 5G which does meet the Installer2 requirements, I don't know if I can help you except point to you alternative installers)
01:12 < HalotoLink> crap... well...
01:12 < DataGhost> well, what is it... 5G or 5.5G?
01:13 < HalotoLink> its a 5g
01:14 < DataGhost> oh. hm, well, I don't know then. heh. I guess your best bet is interpreting the error message and/or searching for it on the forums.
01:14 < HalotoLink> ok thanks
01:14 < DataGhost> or you could use one of the alternatives http://ipodlinux.org/Installation (or do a manual install of course)
01:14 < HalotoLink> manual?
01:14 < DataGhost> yes
01:15 < HalotoLink> and how would i do that?
01:15 < DataGhost> hm. if you're on Linux, it's relatively easy (just by following the manual installation instructions from that page on)
01:16 < HalotoLink> i wish i was but im on dumbass windows xp
01:16 < DataGhost> it's a bit harder for Windows, but manageable. I do think having some commandline and troubleshooting experience is a good thing before attempting it
01:16 < HalotoLink> .... ill try this other installer first than manual if it dont work
01:16 < DataGhost> sure
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01:28 < HalotoLink> ok im back and i tried everything but a manual install, and this is what i got > http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m175/JackSnake001/untitled.png
01:30 < HalotoLink> hello?
01:30 < HalotoLink> .....................
01:33 < HalotoLink> i need some help!!
01:37 < MAA> just try to start from the top bro
01:37 < MAA> everything is there on how to do it
01:37 < MAA> just gotta follow the process more closely
01:37 < HalotoLink> oh ok
01:37 < HalotoLink> wait.. what do you mean?
01:37 < HalotoLink> ooh i think you have to re-format it huh?
01:38 < MAA> what you trying to do
01:38 < MAA> just install linux
01:38 < MAA> right
01:38 < HalotoLink> install ipodlinux onto a 5g ipod
01:38 < MAA> yeah
01:38 < MAA> and you are following some kind of instructions right
01:38 < HalotoLink> crap, but ok thanks
01:38 < MAA> just redo everything
01:38 < MAA> from the start
01:38 < MAA> i already installed it on mines
01:38 < HalotoLink> nope, just download the installer and "install"
01:38 < MAA> oh
01:39 < MAA> hm
01:39 < MAA> i didn't do mines like that
01:39 < MAA> but should work the same
01:39 < HalotoLink> didnt work
01:39 < MAA> try this link
01:39 < HalotoLink> but what didi you do?
01:39 < MAA> http://ipodstuff.org/?page_id=12
01:39 < MAA> i did everything on that site
01:40 < MAA> exactly how it said
01:40 < MAA> and it worked fine
01:40 < HalotoLink> ok thnaks dude ill try again lol
01:40 < MAA> yeah
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01:45 < MAA> ghostdata taht site you gave me
01:45 < MAA> it does not tell me if the game is hacked
01:45 < MAA> yet
01:53 < MAA> does your linux run at full speed
01:53 < MAA> mines is slow
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02:14 < Keripo> I've mirrored Josh's old iPod toolchain: http://ipodlinux.org/Ipod_toolchain
02:14 < Keripo> anyone with an iPod and iPL installed willing to try it?
02:14 < Keripo> (I don't get my iPod back til mid Jan so I'm stuck for the moment being ; /)
02:25 < MAA> nah
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02:29 < MAA> yo if i wanna add more games
02:29 < MAA> do i have to do the whole firmware thing
02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> no
02:30 < MAA> hmm
02:30 < MAA> i just tried to add mahjong
02:30 < MAA> i got a few other games
02:30 < MAA> but mahjong won't show up
02:30 < Keripo> probably because you didn't buy it
02:30 < Keripo> buy it and itunes will make it show up
02:30 < MAA> i see
02:30 < BHSPitMonkey> ... you were talking about iTunes games?
02:31 < MAA> yeah
02:31 < MAA> ipod games
02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, we don't do piracy here.  kthx
02:31 < Keripo> we don't talk of piracy here, specially when an itues game is only $5
02:31 < MAA> ahh
02:31 < MAA> alright
02:32 < MAA> i'll just try that then
02:41 < BleuLlama> incidently, Apple released 4 more games today. i've yet to buy them though; Sonic the hedgehog, Bomberman, a puzzle game, and a memory game.
02:42 < Keripo> wow, so the Sonic wasn't a hoax
02:42 < Keripo> is Bomberman the original?
02:43 < BleuLlama> looks like.  just go to "games" on itunes store, and you can see the demo videos
02:43 < BleuLlama> well, "original" as in, the same game, but not emulated
02:44 < Keripo> well, didn't expect an emulation after pacman (can't check since I don't have iTunes installed though)
02:46 < MAA> yeah
02:46 < MAA> 4 new games
02:46 < MAA> thats nice
02:50 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, that's crazy
02:51 < BHSPitMonkey> wtf "The Sims Bowling" "The Sims Pool"
02:51 < BHSPitMonkey> friggin EA and their product placement
02:52 < BleuLlama> pac-man isn't emulated on the ipod game
02:54 < BleuLlama> it's simulated
02:54 < BleuLlama> poorly
02:54 < BleuLlama> and i'm sure that one of the things that got EA to develop those for the ipod was Apple asking for a SIMS-based game
02:55 < BleuLlama> those are huge franchises, guaranteed to pull cash
02:55 < BHSPitMonkey> I am way behind on this games situation
02:55 < BHSPitMonkey> I just remember them launching the games store, I guess I dropped out after that
02:56 < MAA> yeah
02:56 < MAA> game has nothing to do with sims
02:56 < MAA> but the label makes it more appealing
02:58 < BHSPitMonkey> no it doesn't
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03:02 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, I'm really scratching my head now... are there two "Vortex"es?
03:02 < MAA> just 1
03:03 < BHSPitMonkey> MAA, so BleuLlama's "Vortex" and the "Vortex" in the iTunes Games are one and the same?
03:04 < BHSPitMonkey> weird... so it's a breakout 360 clone
03:05 < BleuLlama> no
03:05 < zacaj> No.  One circular breakou and he ohers a shooer
03:05 < BleuLlama> my Vortex is based on Tempest, which was originally named Vortex when it was in development in the late 70s
03:06 < BHSPitMonkey> (by the time I made that comment, I had figured it out.)
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03:06 < BleuLlama> http://klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=10065
03:07 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, what is the menu entry for yours?
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03:12 < BleuLlama> menu entry?
03:12 < BleuLlama> games/Vortex in pz2?
03:26 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, mmk, I had thought it was Vortex Demo or something
03:27 < BHSPitMonkey> which is what I saw on a video of AppleOS, which had me confused
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03:47 < MAA> does the ipodlinux always runs slow?
03:49 < courtc> What generation iPod?
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03:49 < HalotoLink> ok, i need help again
03:50 < MAA> 5th
03:50 < HalotoLink> yep
03:50 < HalotoLink> ok, i did everything i was told to do
03:50 < HalotoLink> 5g
03:50 < MAA> yeah
03:51 < HalotoLink>  everything is apparently on the ipod
03:51 < MAA> yeah
03:51 < HalotoLink> but when i reset my ipod it dosnt show the ipodlinux option to boot off of
03:51 < MAA> what does it show
03:51 < MAA> you have to set your bootloader
03:51 < HalotoLink> it just shoes Apple OS disk mode and sleep
03:52 < HalotoLink> and how do i do that?
03:52 < MAA> you didn't do it right
03:52 < courtc> MAA: The 5th generation iPod uses a broadcom video chip, which we don't have full access to due to it's closed documentation. The access method we have access to is quite slow.
03:52 < MAA> ahh
03:52 < MAA> i see
03:52 < MAA> but the gameboy games run fine
03:52 < HalotoLink> nothing runs
03:53 < HalotoLink> except for those 3 things
03:53 < MAA> bro you did it wrong
03:53 < MAA> start allover
03:53 < MAA> from the top
03:53 < HalotoLink> what did i do this time?
03:53 < MAA> follow the instructions EXAclty
03:53 < HalotoLink> ok, ok
03:53 < MAA> hmm not sure
03:53 < MAA> but i got it working first try
03:53 < MAA> i followed everyting exactly
03:53 < MAA> it sounds like you didn't get the bootloader
03:53 < HalotoLink> but, how do you configure the botloader?
03:53 < MAA> installed correctly
03:53 < courtc> The gameboy games have very little abstraction to use the lcd, therefore any GUI using abstraction will be slow.
03:53 < MAA> its in the link i gave you
03:54 < MAA> ahh
03:54 < MAA> yeah
03:54 < HalotoLink> ooh ok that thing calle "loader?"
03:54 < MAA> yeah
03:54 < HalotoLink> what do i do?
03:55 < HalotoLink> ok the loader looks like this
03:55 < HalotoLink> #iPodLoader 2.5 config File
03:55 < HalotoLink> backlight = 1
03:55 < HalotoLink> timeout = 30
03:55 < HalotoLink> default = 1
03:55 < HalotoLink> Apple OS @ osos
03:55 < HalotoLink> iPodLinux @ (hd0,1)/linux.bin
03:55 < HalotoLink> Rockbox @ (hd0,1)/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod
03:55 < HalotoLink> Sleep @ Standby
03:55 < HalotoLink> Disk Mode @ diskmode
03:55 < HalotoLink> bg_color = (255,0,0)
03:55 < HalotoLink> bg_gradient = 1
03:55 < HalotoLink> hilight_color = (0,0,0)
03:55 < MAA> hmm
03:55 < MAA> thats correct
03:55 < courtc> please don't paste to this channel. Either use a pastebin or #ipodlinux.flood
03:55 < MAA> all the files are in your ipod?
03:56 < HalotoLink> all of then, and sorry courtc
03:56 < HalotoLink> they all are
03:56 < MAA> hmm
03:57 < HalotoLink> brb
03:57 < MAA> k
04:01 < HalotoLink> ok im back
04:01 < MAA> ok
04:01 < HalotoLink> what do you think the prob is?
04:01 < MAA> you ran the .bat file?
04:01 < HalotoLink> yes and it went 100% and worked
04:01 < MAA> ok
04:01 < MAA> did you get the second file?
04:02 < HalotoLink> 2nd one? whats it called?
04:02 < MAA> yeah
04:02 < MAA> tahts the loader
04:02 < MAA> i think yuou got it
04:02 < HalotoLink> yeah i got it
04:02 < MAA> that should be it
04:02 < MAA> makes no sense why it don't work
04:03 < MAA> not much to it
04:03 < HalotoLink> yeah i know...
04:03 < MAA> which firmware
04:03 < MAA> you have
04:03 < MAA> the hacked
04:03 < HalotoLink> im not sure
04:03 < MAA> oh
04:03 < MAA> try this one
04:03 < MAA> 1 sex
04:03 < MAA> sec*
04:03 < HalotoLink> ok
04:04 < MAA> you have any games on your ipod
04:04 < MAA> you might loose them i think
04:04 < MAA> http://ipodstuff.org/?page_id=21
04:05 < HalotoLink> nope
04:05 < MAA> scroll down and try taht firmware
04:06 < HalotoLink> so, all that i do is run the bin and it should work?
04:07 < MAA> yea
04:07 < MAA> noo
04:07 < MAA> to install the firmware
04:07 < MAA> you need the ipodwizard
04:07 < HalotoLink> i think i got that...
04:07 < HalotoLink> it looks like a red wizard hat?
04:08 < MAA> blue
04:08 < MAA> on my color monitor
04:09 < HalotoLink> ....ok hang on
04:09 < MAA> actually
04:09 < MAA> i dont' think its the firmware
04:09 < HalotoLink> what do you think it is
04:09 < MAA> probably just messed up
04:09 < MAA> try to delete all the files
04:09 < MAA> since you used that
04:10 < MAA> other linux installer
04:10 < MAA> might of caused problems
04:10 < MAA> with this method
04:10 < MAA> try to remove all traces of hte old installer
04:10 < MAA> i mean other installer
04:10 < MAA> and delete all the linux files from that the .bat created
04:10 < MAA> and start from scratch
04:10 < HalotoLink> everything?
04:10 < HalotoLink> crap
04:11 < HalotoLink> ok its deleted
04:11 < MAA> ok
04:11 < MAA> try it again now
04:12 < HalotoLink> so, go to the bat file or whatever then...?
04:12 < MAA> yeah
04:12 < HalotoLink> iPodLinux Manager, right?
04:13 < HalotoLink> isnt that whats it called?
04:13 < MAA> just follow the insturctions
04:13 < MAA> on that site
04:13 < MAA> if the site said that then it is it
04:13 < HalotoLink> ok
04:14 < MAA> i didn't do anything different
04:14 < MAA> i just followed those same steps
04:14 < HalotoLink> ok
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04:24 < HalotoLink> ok i did it and now im restarting it
04:24 < HalotoLink> didnt do it...
04:25 < MAA> hmm
04:25 < HalotoLink> now im mad
04:25 < HalotoLink> ...........
04:25 < MAA> you add the new firmware/
04:25 < HalotoLink> no
04:25 < MAA> try that
04:25 < MAA> add the firmware
04:26 < HalotoLink> ok, im a bit confused on how to use the wizard....
04:26 < MAA> ok
04:26 < MAA> just connect your ipod
04:26 < HalotoLink> ok
04:26 < MAA> then in teh wizard
04:27 < MAA> it says
04:27 < MAA> edit mode:
04:27 < MAA> select firmware file
04:27 < MAA> then click Firmware, find your firmware, then click Write to Ipod
04:27 < HalotoLink> i dont see edit mode..
04:28 < MAA> its there
04:28 < MAA> look at top left
04:28 < MAA> its not a button
04:28 < MAA> its wording
04:28 < HalotoLink> ah ok i found it
04:29 < MAA> ok
04:29 < HalotoLink> ill brb
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04:31 < HalotoLink> ok im back it says there was an error
04:32 < MAA> which one
04:32 < HalotoLink> it was -1, 22, 13836800
04:33 < HalotoLink> in updating it
04:33 < MAA> weird
04:33 < HalotoLink> yeah... wtf
04:33 < MAA> does your ipod have
04:33 < MAA> Search
04:33 < MAA> feature in it
04:33 < HalotoLink> what do you mean?
04:33 < MAA> in your ipod
04:33 < MAA> it says
04:34 < MAA> music, settings
04:34 < MAA> all that crap
04:34 < HalotoLink> let me see...
04:34 < MAA> check it says search
04:34 < HalotoLink> it does 
04:35 < MAA> you have version 5.5
04:35 < MAA> thats why
04:35 < MAA> you probably downloaded the 5.0 firmware
04:35 < HalotoLink> wtf.......
04:35 < HalotoLink> i did lol
04:35 < MAA> yah
04:35 < MAA> get the 5.5
04:35 < MAA> then do all that shit again
04:35 < HalotoLink> *sigh* ok
04:36 < MAA> ok
04:36 < HalotoLink> the whole thing or just thr firmware?
04:36 < HalotoLink> the*
04:36 < BleuLlama> watch your language in here, thanks.
04:37 < HalotoLink> oh sorry man
04:39 < MAA> firmware part
04:39 < MAA> for now
04:40 < HalotoLink> ok one more time...
04:40 < HalotoLink> didnt work............................................. :((((((((((((((((((
04:41 < MAA> dang
04:41 < MAA> you gotta be doing something wrong
04:41 < MAA> makes no sense
04:41 < HalotoLink> i know, and i have been doing the exace same thing the site says
04:41 < MAA> yeah
04:42 < MAA> which error you get
04:42 < MAA> this time
04:42 < MAA> you have ipod video right
04:42 < HalotoLink> none iut just dont show the ipotlinux on the boot screen thing
04:42 < MAA> so the firmware worked?
04:42 < HalotoLink> yes ipod video 30GB 5.5g
04:42 < HalotoLink> it worked
04:42 < MAA> ahh
04:42 < MAA> alright
04:42 < HalotoLink> it sayed it worked
04:42 < MAA> do that ipod linux
04:42 < MAA> thing again
04:43 < HalotoLink> the dos pacher thing?
04:43 < MAA> yeah
04:43 < HalotoLink> :(
04:43 < HalotoLink> ok
04:49 < HalotoLink> it didnt work again
04:49 < HalotoLink> :O
04:49 < MAA> no idea bro
04:50 < MAA> you probably missing hte bootloader
04:50 < HalotoLink> i gots it i thing
04:50 < HalotoLink> think*
04:50 < HalotoLink> it just says loader.cfg
04:50 < HalotoLink> right?
04:51 < HalotoLink> but when it says iPodLinux @ (hd0,1)/linux.bin shouldnt the hd0 be hda or something?
04:51 < MAA> nah
04:52 < HalotoLink> i dunno! :(
04:52 < MAA> its correcto
04:52 < MAA> let me cehck my ipod
04:52 < HalotoLink> ok
04:52 < MAA> i started from scratch
04:53 < MAA> dang it worked
04:53 < HalotoLink> what happened?
04:54 < MAA> flawless
04:54 < MAA> itw orked fine
04:54 < MAA> you gotta be doing something wrong man
04:54 < HalotoLink> it boots up, and then it asks for apple os ipodlinux disk mode and sleep right?
04:54 < MAA> i just did exactly what it said
04:54 < MAA> yeah
04:54 < HalotoLink> yeah...
04:54 < HalotoLink> but mine dont show that
04:54 < MAA> its red background?
04:54 < MAA> the background menu color is red?
04:55 < HalotoLink> it shows on the OS choises menu its blue-ish
04:55 < HalotoLink> firts its black then goes into blue
04:55 < MAA> yeah
04:55 < HalotoLink> first
04:55 < MAA> something wrong with your bootloader
04:55 < HalotoLink> dumb thing...
04:55 < MAA> iPodLinux @ (hd0,1)/linux.bin
04:55 < MAA> should say exactly this
04:56 < HalotoLink> and it sayd that exactly
04:56 < HalotoLink> says
04:57 < MAA> it makes no sense
04:57 < HalotoLink> i know, i know...
04:57 < MAA> do this
04:57 < MAA> do a full restore
04:57 < MAA> using Itunes
04:57 < HalotoLink> but wont it wipe it?
04:58 < MAA> yah
04:58 < MAA> you might have to i guess
04:58 < HalotoLink> dang..
04:58 < MAA> something is not being
04:58 < MAA> writting
04:58 < HalotoLink> i guess ill back it all up tonite
04:59 < HalotoLink> well i gotta go to sleep, i gots finals tomorrow so ill be back tomorrow afternoon, ok?
04:59 < MAA> sure
04:59 < MAA> i might not be here
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17:27 < DerPapst> lo
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19:52 < HalotoLink> hello
20:00 < HalotoLink> ok what is loader.bin?
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20:02 < DerPapst> it's the bootloader
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20:05 < DerPapst> no problem... glad i could help :-P
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21:01 < HalotoLink> is there anywhere to download ipodlinux schemes?
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23:25 < Darkrai_Pwns_U> Hey I need help. When I run the installer it freezes and has to close when It gets to 2 %.
23:26 < Darkrai_Pwns_U> I use a nano 1gig 1st gen
23:27 < Darkrai_Pwns_U> Any one here?
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