--- Log opened Tue Dec 04 00:00:04 2007 00:26 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:26 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 00:27 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:47 -!- WhiteNNerdy [n=123@pool-72-71-168-121.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #iPodLinux 01:11 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 01:27 -!- dranfi [n=dranfi@ANice-152-1-50-124.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 01:28 < dranfi> Hi 01:29 < tomd123> hi 01:30 < WhiteNNerdy> Hey 01:36 -!- scorche [n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:37 -!- scorche [n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has joined #ipodlinux 01:37 < dranfi> I've installed Ipodlinux on my 5.5G (80GB) following the installations instructions from my Ubuntu. Everything is OK : the kernel loads, Podzilla2 loads but I've got a message which say 'unable to connect to MPD', so I installed the MDP module=> same problem; Since I couldn't find any binary files for MDP (thanks to broken links unupdated since two month) I copy the binary 'mdp' to /bin and I removed my MDP module, I had to 01:37 < dranfi> (else MPD ask for the mpd;conf) copy my mdp.conf from /etc/podzilla/modules/mpd/mpd.conf to /etc/mpd.conf and I still get this error mesage. Can anyone help me please? 01:39 < dranfi> Are you developpers? Users? 01:41 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 01:43 < dranfi> Is there anybody here? 01:48 < dranfi> so bye 01:48 -!- dranfi [n=dranfi@ANice-152-1-50-124.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 01:52 -!- dranfi [n=dranfi@ANice-152-1-50-124.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 01:55 < WhiteNNerdy> i got to go 01:55 < WhiteNNerdy> peace 01:55 -!- WhiteNNerdy [n=123@pool-72-71-168-121.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 02:16 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 02:20 -!- AriX_ [n=arix@c-76-99-119-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:20 -!- dranfi [n=dranfi@ANice-152-1-50-124.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 02:21 -!- scorche [n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:26 -!- scorche [n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has joined #ipodlinux 02:43 -!- tomd123 [n=tom@isr5514.urh.uiuc.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:46 -!- animeloe 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19:48 < BleuLlama> we're working on a new server. 19:49 -!- perror [n=fleury@mazurek.labri.fr] has quit ["I'll be back !"] 19:49 < dranfi> So the server should be back soon? 19:49 < BleuLlama> soon? sure. 19:51 < dranfi> Thanks 19:51 -!- DJF4 [n=irc@84-105-201-37.cable.quicknet.nl] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:56 < DataGhost> whatever that means. I can stretch 'soon' into a year 19:56 < dranfi> Does you Know the way to format the Fat32 partition (Winpod) with no bugs (I want to try Rockbox an of course it can't load)? 19:57 -!- travisslack [n=travissl@216.249.50.123] has joined #ipodlinux 19:57 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-i@91.108.210.220] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:57 < DataGhost> I have no idea what you mean. it should be formatted with 'no bugs' by default.. and I guess you're better off asking rockbox people if you have problems with their software 19:57 < DataGhost> I don't really see the relation to iPodLinux for this one 19:58 < travisslack> ok. i have a 5.5g and run mac os x. followed the manual installation to a tee. It works, however loader2 only shows Apple OS, Diskmode and Sleep. I have put a loader.cfg in /Volumes/ipod/ and it still only shows the three 19:58 < travisslack> any ideas? 19:59 < DataGhost> known problem, I'm not sure where you can find a patched loader (although that still doesn't fix the problem in some cases), but if it's only on the iPL server, you'll have to wait a bit 19:59 < travisslack> ah rats. 19:59 < DataGhost> s/still doesn't fix/delays to iPL/ 20:00 < travisslack> oh well. i guess i'll continue the wait. 20:05 < travisslack> is there anything alpha/experimental i can give a whirl besides nightlies? 20:08 < tomd123> what is the stat on getting the ipl server up and running, I want to start experimenting more 20:08 < tomd123> right now, I'm just limited to broken links 20:09 < BleuLlama> hopefully 1 week or so before it's online 20:09 < tomd123> oh wow, finally :P 20:09 < travisslack> ill just assume there is no alpha patch or anything :P 20:10 < tomd123> although I found it fairly easy to do a manual install, w/o the server being down, I would still be clueless 20:21 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit ["Cant sleep..... 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Since the 5.5G iPod has a sectorsize of 2048bytes you cannot use mkfs.vfat!. 21:04 < dranfi> If you still whish to try it out yourself, the command would be: 21:04 < dranfi> # mkfs.vfat -S 2048 -F 32 /dev/sdX2 21:04 < dranfi> However the linux kernel, the Apple Firmware, MacOSX, Linux and Windows aren't complaining about the filesystem being broken. The only issues you'll get is that recording in the Apple Firmare is broken and RockBox cannot handle the filesystem at all. 21:04 < dranfi> If you intend to use the recording feature of the Apple Firmware or want to install RockBox alongside with iPodLinux, then you have two choices on how to format the FAT32 partition instead of mksfs.vfat. 21:05 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:05 < dranfi> You can use mformat, which is part of the mtools (http://mtools.linux.lu/mtools-3.9.10.tar.gz) package (how to compile (http://mtools.linux.lu/faq.html#newbie)). To make mformat work, you have to add the following line in /etc/mtools.conf 21:06 < dranfi> That's the information I was looking for 21:06 < dranfi> thank 21:06 < amiconn> In what way is the filesystem broken? f it's not too much extra work, I might make rockbox able to handle such a broken layout 21:10 < DataGhost> dranfi or you could just not touch the partition at all, as I told you twice 21:10 < DataGhost> if you're just using rockbox 21:12 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:17 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p5B23EFF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:17 * DerPapst waves 21:18 < DerPapst> travisslack: http://felixbruns.de/tmp/loader_ticket_55_57.bin.gz 21:18 < DerPapst> there you go 21:20 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-136-236.tbwil.ch] has quit ["An error? Impossible! My modem is error correcting."] 21:21 < DerPapst> amiconn: i can't tell for sure. it has also been reported on the rockbox forums before the 5.5G 80GB iPod was even supported. But rockbox refuses to read the harddrive completely and it complains about an incomplete installation if launched with loader 2. 21:22 < amiconn> Yeah sure 21:22 < DerPapst> since i doubt that the rb loader can read the hdd either then 21:22 < amiconn> Rockbox' fat driver does a number of sanity checks before it mounts a volume 21:22 < DerPapst> but in can't tell you what exactly is wrong though 21:22 < amiconn> So it doesn't mount, which makes it complain about incomplete installation 21:22 < DerPapst> s/in/i 21:23 < DerPapst> yep 21:23 < amiconn> The rockbox bootloader uses the exact same fat driver, so a fix would apply to both 21:23 < DerPapst> yes. 21:24 < travisslack> DerPapst: thanks man. i appreciate it 21:24 < DerPapst> what would you need to figure out what is broken on the filesystem? a dump of the first 1MB of the fatpartition or so? 21:24 < amiconn> That should be sufficient, yes 21:25 * DerPapst pings dranfi 21:26 < DataGhost> but eh 21:26 < DataGhost> is it really broken? 21:26 < DerPapst> the apple firmware doesn'T like the filesystem either 21:27 < DataGhost> I'm not completely sure how the rockbox driver handles disk reads but I guess it'll do 512b-block reads if that's the written sectorsize 21:27 < DataGhost> and the *harddrive* doesn't like that 21:27 < DerPapst> it can read it but it can'T write anything sane to the hdd 21:27 < DataGhost> oh, never mind me then 21:27 < amiconn> Rockbox uses whatever sector size the hdd specifies 21:27 < DerPapst> the broken configfiles if you remember 21:28 < DerPapst> and it gets even more impressive if you try to record with the applefirmware 21:28 < amiconn> It's just slow on writing because it dissects the large disk sectors on read, and reassembles them on write 21:31 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-i@91.108.210.220] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 < travisslack> hey DerPapst, thanks a lot, it worked fine 21:33 < DerPapst> cool :) 21:35 < travisslack> hah except for the fact i get a kernel panic. ill try to google this shit out before bothering you guys haha 21:35 < DerPapst> heh 21:36 < DerPapst> you've installed the userland and stuff? 21:36 < travisslack> yeah 21:36 < DerPapst> hmmm... 21:36 < DerPapst> lots of MacPod users seem to get problems these days :-/ 21:38 < travisslack> hah. we're a pain. it doesent matter that its linux.bin in /Volumes/ipod right 21:38 < travisslack> ? 21:38 < travisslack> it doesent need to be kernel.bin 21:39 < DataGhost> yeah, Apple found out about the bug in the loader and quickly released new firmware to make us look bad 21:42 < travisslack> cannot find reiserfs on ide0(3,3) is the other error i get 21:44 < travisslack> correct me if im wrong but i think it has to do with the kernel not reading the different sector sizes? 21:46 < DataGhost> *something* with the kernel but I haven't had time to look into it yet (as I also need to restore my iPod, movies and music afterwards) 21:47 < DataGhost> and nobody else has looked into it yet either 21:47 < travisslack> ah, thats cool. I was just trying to give as much info has possible heh. anyway, ill just lurk in hopes someone has an answer sometime. 21:49 < dranfi> so I have Ipodlinux working on my WinPod 5.5g (80GB) using this method : mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdX2 from http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:uPfv1IFbvckJ:ipodlinux.org/Manual_installation+site:ipodlinux.org+manual+installation&hl=fr&client=firefox-a&gl=fr&strip=1 (google cache for manual installation page) except that mpdc can't connect to MPD, but that not the problem. I can access my music partition from Ipodlinux (for instance 21:51 < DerPapst> dranfi: so you didn't use mtools to format your fat32 partition? 21:51 < DataGhost> dranfi you either need to summarize your problem (as a lot of it fell off) or wait until the forums are back online so you can type your big text 21:52 < travisslack> or use pastebin.com .... 21:52 < DataGhost> and we're done with the waiting, woohoo 21:52 < dranfi> But when I installed Rockbox (by dropping files in my Music partition, I have a new entry in the Loader for rockbox(that says a good thing, I can see rockbox loading say 'nothing to do' or something like that. 21:52 < DerPapst> wheee,, the server is back up :D 21:53 < BleuLlama> you can thank me later. 21:53 < DerPapst> heh.. you did that? 21:53 < BleuLlama> i just had to reboot it and type something on the console. it's all good now. 21:54 < DerPapst> dranfi: could you please answer my question? you didn't used mtools to formart your iPod 21:54 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: thanks :) 21:54 < travisslack> with the server up, would i be able to use installer2 and possibly bypass the problems im having? 21:54 * BleuLlama wishes we had that kind of access to the server. 21:55 < DerPapst> travisslack: no. since installer 2 is incompartible with macpods and doesn't run at all on macosx 21:55 < travisslack> hah, balls. oh well. 21:55 < dranfi> I didn't use Mtool because when I partionned my disk because I was a Newbee at Linux. I'll tell you if that works better with Mtools 21:56 < DerPapst> dranfi: wait a bit with mtools 21:56 < DerPapst> can you do me a favour? 21:56 < dranfi> What favor? 21:57 < DerPapst> you formated your ipod with mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdX2 or with mkdosfs -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/sdX2? 22:00 < dranfi> I don't really remember (did that on september) but I must have tried the first thing in the list : mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdX2 and I don't remember having any error message. 22:00 < DerPapst> amiconn: out of couriosity... do you have linux installed on any of your PCs? 22:00 < DerPapst> dranfi: do you have any important stuff on your fat32 partition or could you reformat it? 22:02 < dranfi> I have Ubuntu 7.10 on my mybook(Bought in october) and Ubuntu 7.10 too in an other laptop (Sony VAIO VGN-BX197P) 22:02 < dranfi> Don't worry about my data it's in my external hard drive 22:02 < DerPapst> dranfi: mkay good :-) 22:03 < DerPapst> dranfi: can you format your iPods fat32 partition with mkdosfs -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/sdX2 and tell me when you're done? 22:04 < dranfi> Firstly I reboot my macbook in Ubuntu (I'm using OSX now) and after i'll do that 22:05 < DerPapst> do you have an irc client on ubuntu too? 22:05 < dranfi> You want me to try the differents formatting way? 22:05 < DerPapst> so you ca join #ipodlinux again 22:05 < dranfi> I have IRC client too 22:05 < DerPapst> no, i want a small dump of your iPods fat32 partition 22:06 < dranfi> ? 22:06 < DerPapst> to see whats faulty with the filesystem 22:06 < DerPapst> so maybe amiconn can make rockbox handle this filesystem then 22:07 < dranfi> ok 22:07 -!- dranfi [n=bdopju@ANice-152-1-50-124.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quit"] 22:07 < DerPapst> i'll give you the commands you need 22:07 < DerPapst> meh. 22:07 < DerPapst> too slow :P 22:08 < DerPapst> amiconn: do you have linux installed on any of your PCs? 22:08 -!- RedDak [n=dak@87.6.86.131] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:11 < DerPapst> amiconn: nvm 22:12 -!- dranfi [n=dranfi@ANice-152-1-50-124.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 < dranfi> I'm back 22:12 < DerPapst> :) 22:13 < DerPapst> now format your iPods fat32 partition with mkdosfs -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/sdX2 and tell me when you're done, please 22:15 < dranfi> Don't you want to see first the result of fdisk/sfdisk? 22:18 < dranfi> This is fdisk Disque /dev/sdb: 80.0 Go, 80026361856 octets 22:18 < dranfi> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2432 cylinders 22:18 < dranfi> Units = cylindres of 16065 * 2048 = 32901120 bytes 22:18 < dranfi> Disk identifier: 0x20202020 22:18 < dranfi> Périphérique Amorce Début Fin Blocs Id Système 22:18 < dranfi> /dev/sdb1 1 4 128394 0 Vide 22:18 < dranfi> /dev/sdb2 21 2432 77497560 b W95 FAT32 22:18 < dranfi> /dev/sdb3 5 20 514080 83 Linux 22:18 < dranfi> Les entrées de la table de partitions ne sont pas dans l'ordre du disque 22:18 < dranfi> Commande (m pour l'aide): 22:18 < DerPapst> seems fine 22:19 < DerPapst> now format it with mkdosfs -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/sdb2 22:19 < dranfi> and this is sfdisk Disque /dev/sdb: 9729 cylindres, 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste 22:19 < dranfi> Vieille situation: 22:19 < dranfi> Unités= cylindres de 8225280 octets, blocs de 1024 octets, décompte à partir de 0 22:19 < dranfi> Périph Amor Début Fin #cyls #blocs Id Système 22:19 < dranfi> /dev/sdb1 0+ 3 4- 32098+ 0 Vide 22:19 < dranfi> /dev/sdb2 20 2431 2412 19374390 b W95 FAT32 22:19 < dranfi> /dev/sdb3 4 19 16 128520 83 Linux 22:19 < dranfi> /dev/sdb4 0 - 0 0 0 Vide 22:19 < dranfi> L'entrée utiliser un des formats suivants; les champs absents prennent 22:19 < dranfi> la valeur par défaut: 22:20 < dranfi> 22:20 < dranfi> Habituellement vous n'avez besoin que de spécifier: 22:20 < dranfi> et (et parfois ). 22:20 < dranfi> /dev/sdb1 : 22:20 < DerPapst> use pastebin.ca please 22:20 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 22:21 < DerPapst> but as i said. the partitions look good. 22:21 < DerPapst> just format it with mkdosfs -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/sdb2 22:21 < travisslack> haha holy balls 22:21 < dranfi> Done, I've got : ' mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)' 22:21 < DerPapst> now do the following: 22:21 < DerPapst> dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=fat32_dump_5.5G.bin bs=2048 count=512 22:22 < dranfi> yes 22:23 < dranfi> I pload the file? 22:23 < dranfi> upload 22:23 < travisslack> www.pastebin.com 22:23 < DerPapst> zip it frist 22:23 -!- travisslack [n=travissl@216.249.50.123] has quit [] 22:24 < DerPapst> then upload it :) 22:27 < dranfi> Are you sure we can upload a file in pastebin.com (because I can't see any upload form)? 22:27 < DerPapst> http://papsti.dyndns.org/upload.php 22:27 < DerPapst> what is the file extension btw? 22:27 < DerPapst> just to make sure it gets accepted before you upload 22:28 < dranfi> http://papsti.dyndns.org/upload/fat32_dump_5.5G.bin.zip 22:28 < DerPapst> thanks :) 22:31 < dranfi> Let see if rockbox can handle this filesystem 22:32 < DerPapst> probably not. 22:32 < DerPapst> i'll give amiconn your dump and he might be able to make rockbox work with this filesystem 22:32 < DerPapst> but it would probably take a while 22:32 < dranfi> So 'no .rockbox directory' and 'installation incomplete 22:33 < dranfi> Now I'm going to try with mtools 22:34 < DerPapst> ok :) 22:36 < dranfi> Interesting : this time rockbox starts (on my empty partition) and looks usable (even if I got error messages) : the difference is that the menu are usable. 22:36 < dranfi> But it cannot record so ... 22:41 < dranfi> I have this : dranfi@dranfimacubuntu:~/mtools-3.9.11$ sfdisk -l /dev/sdb 22:41 < dranfi> Disque /dev/sdb: 9729 cylindres, 255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste 22:41 < dranfi> Unités= cylindres de 8225280 octets, blocs de 1024 octets, décompte à partir de 0 22:41 < dranfi> Périph Amor Début Fin #cyls #blocs Id Système 22:41 < dranfi> /dev/sdb1 0+ 3 4- 32098+ 0 Vide 22:41 < dranfi> /dev/sdb2 20 2431 2412 19374390 b W95 FAT32 22:41 < dranfi> /dev/sdb3 4 19 16 128520 83 Linux 22:41 < dranfi> /dev/sdb4 0 - 0 0 0 Vide 22:41 < dranfi> I should use the cyls or blocs value? 22:42 < DataGhost> hey 22:42 < DataGhost> can you stop pasting large chunks of text in this channel? 22:42 < DataGhost> you've been told to use pastebin already 22:45 < dranfi> In my case the cylinder value is 2431-20 =2411 ? 22:48 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@79.18.82.24] has quit ["bbs"] 22:49 < dranfi> I got errors messages : http://pastebin.com/d79ac638d 22:50 < DerPapst> yes... 2411 is correct 22:52 < dranfi> The error I've got with mformat is 'argssize must be less than 6' 22:53 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host24-82-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:54 < dranfi> do you have any idea of the problem? 22:55 < DerPapst> wait a sec.. 22:55 < dranfi> ok 22:56 < dranfi> I forget to say that I had this error while compiling (sudo make install step) make: makeinfo : commande introuvable 22:56 < dranfi> make: *** [mtools.info] Erreur 127 22:56 < DerPapst> hmm.. the command looks ok... 22:57 < dranfi> commande introuvable in french means unfindable/unknown command 23:00 < dranfi> this is my log compiling (if the error come from here) : http://pastebin.com/d24cc7bb5 23:02 < DerPapst> and if you just do make install? without being su 23:04 < dranfi> Permission non accordée = Must be root (don't really know how to translate it) 23:05 < dranfi> What does error 127 means? 23:05 < DerPapst> probably because you build it being root? 23:05 < DerPapst> can you chown and chmod it? 23:07 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:07 < dranfi> but I use as root mformat. And if I don't use as root, I have exactely the same error 23:09 < DerPapst> hmm.. well you command looked of. i don't kno why it doesn't like yours... 23:12 < dranfi> ? 23:14 < DerPapst> i really don't see why mtools is complaining 23:14 < dranfi> ok 23:14 < DerPapst> your command is correct 23:14 < DerPapst> maybe you can install a binary version of mtools with ubuntus package manager? 23:14 < dranfi> Is the last version of Parted recognising Ipod 5.5g? 23:14 < DerPapst> dunno if that would work 23:17 < amiconn> This partition dump is from an 80GB G5.5? 23:18 < DerPapst> yes 23:18 < dranfi> Lol, the package mtools was already installed! I uninstalled the package : same error 23:18 < DerPapst> eh... 23:18 < DerPapst> i don't get it then :-/ 23:19 < dranfi> maybe I should uninstall my compiled mtools and use the mtool from the package manager? 23:19 < DerPapst> yap.. try this out 23:19 < DerPapst> as a last resort 23:20 < amiconn> Ah, hmm 23:20 * amiconn wondered why there is a size difference of ~500MB 23:20 -!- Delvien [n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:20 < amiconn> But that's the size of the linux partition 23:20 < DerPapst> hehe 23:21 < dranfi> But I don't know how to uninstall a compiled program. 23:21 < dranfi> Yes my linux partition is 500 MB 23:21 < DerPapst> dranfi: maybe make uninstall 23:21 < dranfi> thanks 23:21 < DerPapst> dunno if that works like that for mtools 23:22 -!- Delvien [n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:22 < dranfi> Uninstallation succeded 23:22 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-i@91.108.210.220] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:23 < amiconn> It looks like mkdosfs does something that clearly violates the fat specs 23:23 < dranfi> That looks to work 23:23 < amiconn> It sets secperclus to 32, which yields a cluster size of 64KB given the 2048 bytes per logical sector 23:24 < amiconn> The working dump for comparison has secperclus == 8 23:25 < amiconn> In fact 64KB clusters are allowed, but discouraged even by microsoft 23:25 -!- Delvien is now known as DM| 23:28 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 23:29 * DerPapst wonders if that is a bug or done with intension 23:32 < dranfi> Rockbox look to be working now 23:33 < DerPapst> so you got mtools to work? 23:34 < amiconn> I can't find anything in the rockbox fat driver that would stop it from working with such a partition though 23:35 < DerPapst> hmm.. odd. however i'm 100% sure rockbox worked for nobody with a fat32 partition formatted by mkfs.vfat 23:36 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:36 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:37 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:37 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:37 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:37 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:38 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:38 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:40 < dranfi> Yes Rockbox is fully working (could read my MP3) 23:41 < dranfi> Do you want me to upload my firsts sectors? 23:47 < dranfi> Parted 1.8.7 still not recognize the Ipod 80GB (still not support sectors with a size of 1048) 23:47 < DerPapst> no 23:47 < DerPapst> since rockbox works fine now 23:49 < dranfi> Maybe you can suggest to check if mtools is installed/aviable in the package manager of the disto to avoid this kind of conflict. 23:50 < DerPapst> yes. 23:50 < DerPapst> i'll add that to the page :) 23:50 < DerPapst> thanks for your feedback 23:51 < dranfi> You don't need t compare the 'good' and the 'wrong' firsts sectors partitions? 23:53 < dranfi> To make a soft/ script which automatically create a bugfree fat32 partition. 23:55 < dranfi> As I am curious, Why the installation of Ipodlinux from a FAT32 partition is not the default way of installing Ipodlinux? 23:59 < DerPapst> what do you mean? 23:59 < DerPapst> why you have to create an aditional ext partition to install iPodlInux? --- Log closed Wed Dec 05 00:00:00 2007