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00:41 < daniel_washere> Ok, compiled 2.6 for iPod successfully. It even says "Kernel: linux.bin is ready", However i can't find the.... file (arch/armnommu/boot) doesnt have it either. i only found the file "vmlinux" in the main directory.
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00:44 < DerPapst> i guess that is what you want
00:45 < DerPapst> put it on you ipod and see what happens ;)
00:45 < daniel_washere> haha oh i cant wait for FS corruption :D
00:45 < DerPapst> besides fs corruption
00:45 < daniel_washere> hmm found the file in the same directory (i really should look harder :/)
00:45 < daniel_washere> but its just the 2.4 kernel building page that threw me off
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00:46 < daniel_washere> "Caution: The kernel image file you need is NOT the "linux" file in the main folder! It is: arch/armnommu/boot/Image"
00:48 < daniel_washere> It working :D
00:48 < BleuLlama> can you make a note on the 2.4 kernel building page about where that one ended up?
00:49 < daniel_washere> The green bar went across now its frozen :/.
00:49 < daniel_washere> Yep, for sure :P
00:49 < BleuLlama> that just means that loader2 shoved it into memory, then it hung
00:49 < BleuLlama> er.
00:49 < BleuLlama> loader2 shoved it into memory, then tried to run it, but it hung
00:49 < daniel_washere> So something went wrong with the file :(..?
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00:52 < BleuLlama> guess so.
00:52 < BleuLlama> i'd suggest building the 2.4 kernel and making sure that works
00:52 < BleuLlama> perhaps the 2.6 kernel hasn't been updated to work with your ipod?
00:53 < daniel_washere> just trying on my little brothers mini now
00:53 < daniel_washere> but it froze on loader 2 again.
00:53 < daniel_washere> I have compiled 2.4 before im sure of it
00:54 < daniel_washere> But l`ll try it again soon.
00:56 < daniel_washere> (unless the kernel hates ZeroSlackr)
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00:57 < daniel_washere> haha actually nevermind, if it froze at loader 2.. then it shouldnt be an issue :/
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00:58 < DerPapst> you have to tell the kernel that it should take hda2 as its root (because of zeroslakr thing)
00:59 < BleuLlama> you misunderstood me.
00:59 < BleuLlama> if you saw the green bar go all the way across, that was loader
00:59 < DerPapst> if the loading bar reached the end maybe the kernel has a bug either
01:00 < BleuLlama> it got to the end, transferred control over to your kernel, which did whatever it did - crashed, hung, whatever
01:00 < daniel_washere> Ah ok, well just to be sure im trying on my brothers 4G :P
01:00 < DerPapst> ccos didn't refresh the screen on my iPod. so it stayed at the loader screen with the bar
01:00 < DerPapst> though ccos loaded. i could control the backlight with it.
01:00 < BleuLlama> gotcha
01:01 < BleuLlama> but the linux kernel should display stuff to the screen... right?
01:01 < DerPapst> maybe something similar... i'm not sure the kernel has any drivers for iPod video
01:01 < DerPapst> for the display i mean.
01:01 < DerPapst> thus it seems like it's doing nothing.
01:01 < BleuLlama> right, but he's seeing the same results on other ipods
01:02 < BleuLlama> but yeah, no video support
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01:02 < DerPapst> i don't know how old the attemp is to port the 2.6 kernel
01:03 < DerPapst> maybe it doesn't even have any drivers for color LCDs
01:03 < BleuLlama> hmm. good point
01:03 < BleuLlama> does the 1g still need extra kernel modules to work?
01:03 < BleuLlama> it's been so long since i got my 1G working
01:04 < DerPapst> i think a good target to test is a 1G, 2G or 3G. and no. i'm not going to try this on my 3Gs :P
01:04 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: no they're all in the current userland
01:04 < daniel_washere> ...
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01:04 < daniel_washere> hahah
01:04 < BleuLlama> oh yeah... this is pre 4g - so it won't work on 4g, mini, nano, etc...
01:04 < BleuLlama> right. cool
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01:05 < daniel_washere> no use reinstalling linux on my bros 4G then? :P unless i go through hell adding the differences between 2.4 Drivers/CPU and 2.6? (2.6 are so old :P)
01:06 < BleuLlama> correct
01:06 < DerPapst> dunno... maybe the kernel already has some 4G specific code
01:06 < BleuLlama> you'll need to migrate over the video driver and 4g+ support/drivers code
01:06 < DerPapst> check the drivers if you see something about pp5020 ;)
01:07 < daniel_washere> Alright, thank's :).
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01:33 < daniel_washere> ok my tests have ended..
01:33 < daniel_washere> fails on 4G :/
01:33 < daniel_washere> horrah my first manual install... Why do newbies complain so much :P? That was easy :D
01:34 < BleuLlama> exactly. the difference is that you're competant
01:39 < daniel_washere> Am i? never considered myself to be :s
01:39 < daniel_washere> But anyhow.. my compiled 2.4 kernel works fine
01:39 < daniel_washere> Im going to have fun copying and pasting random bits of code later ;)
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01:41 < DerPapst> heh
01:41 < DerPapst> good luck with that
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02:10 < daniel_washere> Yep, hardware.c only had 1-3G defined :P
02:10 < daniel_washere> and 2.6 doesnt have a framebuffer file :s
02:13 < rvvs89> I do believe DerPapst said it best when he said "good luck with that" :P
02:14 < daniel_washere> Hahahaha, yep :P
02:16 < rvvs89> Well, I improved that nightly build script so it now uses icons from IconUI, and displays the Display-name and Description tags from the Module file
02:17 < rvvs89> And it also says whether a module is from SVN or is an external module
02:17 < daniel_washere> For podzilla2? (sorry, missed out on a lot)
02:18 < rvvs89> http://rvvs89.ucc.asn.au/ipl/nightly/
02:18 < daniel_washere> Nice :D
02:18 < rvvs89> Yeah, builds podzilla2 and modules, then makes a script so apache displays extra information about them
02:18 < rvvs89> Thankyou :P
02:18 < daniel_washere> Hahaha thats sweet as !
02:19 < daniel_washere> *bookmarks*
02:19 < rvvs89> I'm flattered :D
02:20 < rvvs89> Anyway I'll probably add all the modules from the module repo by tonight
02:20 < daniel_washere> Hahahaha, but it looks so mad with the icons and the description. The modules page should redirect to it.
02:20 < daniel_washere> Fair enough.
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03:01 < Johnb554> hola
03:01 < Johnb554> i need help...
03:01 < Johnb554> lol
03:02 < Johnb554> hello?
03:02 < Johnb554> anyone here?
03:04 < Johnb554> hello?
03:05 < daniel_washere> When asking for help, state your OS and iPod generation
03:06 < daniel_washere> "When asking for help, state your OS and iPod generation"*
03:06 < Johnb554> ok
03:07 < Johnb554> Hello, my name is john, I am running Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate, My ipod is a 30 Gigabyte 5th generation (earlier model). i also have access to an XP laptop if vista is a problem
03:07 < Johnb554> better?
03:07 < Johnb554> lol
03:08 < daniel_washere> Yes, what is the issue?
03:10 < BleuLlama> wow. okay then.
03:10 < Johnb554> ok.. first off, i was running the installer on vista, and the installe just crashed right after the OS backup. so i figured it might have been vista and i jumped on my laptop with XP and tried it on there also, it went a bit further but about 30% of the way in, a lil window popped up saying directory does not exist and the only option was quit installation... so i hit that, now im restoring on itunes so i can give it another shot b
03:10 < Johnb554> to come in here and ask around to see if theres somthing im missing
03:11 < daniel_washere> Installer 2, right?
03:11 < Johnb554> yup
03:11 < Johnb554> i jsut want to be able to hack this thing to do new tricks and play flac
03:11 < Johnb554> lol
03:12 < daniel_washere> I highly recommend you do NOT use that right now, its filled with bugs. If you wish to start using iPodLinux as soon as possible, i recommend Zero Slakr Installer :).
03:12 < daniel_washere> Fair enough
03:12 < Johnb554> i want to have it up and running like... tonight.. lol
03:12 < Johnb554> where can i find this zero slakr
03:12 < Johnb554> ?
03:12 < daniel_washere> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27935&start=0
03:12 < daniel_washere> Yes, this install only takes like less then a minute (well for me)
03:13 < daniel_washere> Do it after restoring your iPod
03:13 < Johnb554> ok, ill try that, is it ok if i hang around in channel to ask for anything further if shit comes up?
03:13 < daniel_washere> Sure, just remember your iPod isnt supported.
03:14 < Johnb554> aah!
03:14 < Johnb554> its not?
03:14 < daniel_washere> It works with iPodlinux.
03:14 < Johnb554> oo but not with the other one
03:14 < daniel_washere> Hmm?
03:14 < daniel_washere> No it isnt supported by the development team
03:14 < Johnb554> ooo ok
03:15 < Johnb554> heh ill give it a shot anyways, if it works it works
03:15 < daniel_washere> If your iPod screws up with any iPod above 3rd Generation, no help or support is provided.
03:15 < Johnb554> if it doesnt, well screw it
03:15 < daniel_washere> It should.
03:15 < Johnb554> well i dont use ipod anyways, im just tryin to find a use for it
03:15 < Johnb554> wich would be to play flac
03:16 < daniel_washere> ah fair enough
03:16 < Johnb554> great now ipod is telling me to unplug the cord
03:16 < Johnb554> and it wont boot
03:16 < Johnb554> lol
03:16 < Johnb554> too bad it aint plugged in
03:17 < Johnb554> dumbass
03:17 < Johnb554> lol
03:17 < Johnb554> oo wait... getting somewhere
03:18 < Johnb554> oh woot. it works.. back to square one
03:18 < Johnb554> lol
03:18 < Johnb554> so this other installer u linked me to.. will that install the same shit?
03:18 < daniel_washere> Yes
03:19 < Johnb554> k and do u think im safe doing it on vista?
03:19 < daniel_washere> And other shiney stuff.
03:19 < Johnb554> :)
03:19 < BleuLlama> 1) watch your language in here. keep it family friendly
03:19 < daniel_washere> Yes
03:19 < BleuLlama> 2) spell out your words in here
03:19 < BleuLlama> 3) stop with the "lol".
03:19 < daniel_washere> I just used the installer yesterday on my iPod Nano, it went PERFECTLY fine.
03:19 < Johnb554> Wow. Okay, thought it was an IRC channel.
03:20 < Johnb554> thanks daniel_washere
03:21 < daniel_washere> No problem.
03:21 < Johnb554> I will hang around until it works. im just paranoid. haha
03:22 < Johnb554> oh. looks like it installed already! that was super quick
03:24 < Johnb554> Oh and i just tripped over my sync cable and ripped the usb plug out.. grand!
03:25 < Johnb554> but ty daniel looks like it booted in just fine
03:26 < daniel_washere> eh.. no problems.
03:26 < Johnb554> now to find a new usb cord
03:26 < Johnb554> lol
03:27 < Johnb554> and somthing that will play flac
03:27 < daniel_washere> Bye, thanks for the help BlueLlama.
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03:28 < Johnb554> Anyone else around with any recomendations for playing Flac?
03:28 < BleuLlama> install the mpdc/mpd modules
03:29 < Johnb554> where can I find those?
03:29 < Johnb554> sry im such a noob
03:29 < Johnb554> sorry*
03:29 < BleuLlama> go to the website, click modules
03:31 < Johnb554> ok it is downloaded on my hard drive
03:32 < Johnb554> Be right back. I am going to see if i can solder this cable back to the plug
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03:51 < Johnb554> OK i am back and with a new homebrew ipod cord!
03:51 < Johnb554> BleuLlama are you still around?
03:59 < Johnb554> Is anyone around that can help me install some modules onto ipodlinux to play FLAC with?
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04:17 < Johnb554> Anyone around?
04:17 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I am
04:17 < Johnb554> Hey, im new to this, can you help me get up and running with installing the MPD module to play FLAC?
04:17 < Johnb554> running on windows
04:18 < Johnb554> already have ipodlinux installed
04:19 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> So you want to be able to play FLAC files?
04:19 < Johnb554> Yep, thats all i want this thing for
04:19 < Johnb554> just experimenting
04:19 < Johnb554> Going to see if its any good
04:20 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> From what I know MDP can only play mp3 files and I think aac
04:20 < Johnb554> Hmm.. are you sure? i just read online that it plays FLAC also. want to try it out and see for myself, but i have no clue on where to start with installing the module
04:21 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> hmm...
04:21 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Can you upload a .flac file?
04:21 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> And send it to me.
04:21 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Ill test it
04:22 < Johnb554> OK. just a sec
04:22 < Johnb554> does your DCC work?
04:23 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Yep
04:23 < Johnb554> there ya go
04:24 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Send again sorry
04:24 < Johnb554> k
04:24 < Johnb554> hmm
04:24 < Johnb554> doesnt want to work
04:25 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Status: accepting send
04:25 < Johnb554> gave me an error
04:25 < Johnb554> —› error: DCC send of (12 Don't Matter.flac) to (MeTrOiD014|Kevin)/(99.226.187.95) failed! Uploaded (0/34.5MB)/(0%) in (34s) at an average of (0B/s).
04:26 < BleuLlama> flac works with MPD
04:27 < BleuLlama> look at the Project Status page
04:27 < Johnb554> yea thats where i got my info.
04:27 < Johnb554> thought they did
04:28 < Johnb554> Now i just need to get it on the ipod. :/
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04:33 < Johnb554> ok i give up
04:33 < Johnb554> whatever
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04:35 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Get the file on your ipod
04:44 < courtc> Any kernel savvy user with a 2bpp ipod available to test a kernel?
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05:34 < BleuLlama> aegray?
05:34 < aegray> hi!
05:34 < BleuLlama> how's it going, little georgie?
05:34 < BleuLlama> ;)
05:34 < aegray> haha good
05:34 < aegray> being 12 is always fun
05:34 < BleuLlama> seriously though... how are ya? been a while
05:34 < BleuLlama> heh
05:34 < aegray> yea i've been working - aot
05:34 < aegray> alot*
05:35 * BleuLlama nods
05:35 < aegray> how have you been?
05:35 < BleuLlama> busy as hell
05:35 < BleuLlama> about to go into crunch mode at work too
05:35 < aegray> always fun
05:37 < davidc__> hey aegray... long time no see man
05:37 < aegray> hey davidc__ - how are you?
05:37 < davidc__> pretty good.. finally got back to BC
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05:38 < aegray> cool - you get a new job?
05:38 < aegray> or same one
05:38 < davidc__> hmm? which one.. the SparkFun one?
05:38 < aegray> yea
05:38 < BleuLlama> davidc__ got a cool job at sparkfun.com
05:38 < davidc__> I've been working at SparkFun for the last year
05:38 < davidc__> just got back to BC now
05:38 < davidc__> [visa ran out]
05:38 * BleuLlama got a new job in april
05:38 < davidc__> currently just doing contract work
05:39 < aegray> what kind of contract work? anything fun?
05:40 < davidc__> nothing terribly fun at the moment
05:40 < davidc__> mostly just adjusting to life back home... seeing friends / etc
05:40 < davidc__> what you been up to man?
05:40 < aegray> got a job and been working like crazy
05:40 < davidc__> cool - where you working?
05:41 < aegray> some hedge fund in chicago
05:41 < aegray> its fun
05:42 < davidc__> doing SW dev for them?
05:42 < aegray> kind of - im doing qr/software stuff right now - so its statistics/playing with data as well as developing some tools
05:43 < davidc__> neat
05:44 < BleuLlama> cool
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07:51 < daniel_washere> Anyone with a 1G-3G iPod that feels like testing kernel 2.6.7 with a small little bug?
07:52 < daniel_washere> Wait... how did leachbj get it to work if it just corrupted the FS as soon as it mounted it? (or did he get it to mount in read-only?)
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08:57 < davidc__> daniel_washere: er - we never got 2.6.7 to work
08:58 < davidc__> daniel_washere: we gave up because we couldn't figure out the corrupt as soon as mount issue
08:58 < daniel_washere> Would it be possibly fixed in newer versions of 2.6?
08:59 < davidc__> daniel_washere: maybe - we've never tried
08:59 < daniel_washere> cause i finally got 2.6.7 to compile for iPod.. but didnt realize it was that old and only had hardware support for 1-3G :/
08:59 < davidc__> daniel_washere: yeah - we never moved past the 1-3G support because we could never get it to stop corrupting the drive
08:59 < davidc__> so we could never debug what was wrong
09:00 < daniel_washere> and i was looking forward to seeing my nano's fs go corrupt :(..
09:00 < daniel_washere> Fair enough.
09:01 < davidc__> anyhow, if you want to work on that port, I'd encourage you to poke at the nano's serial port - thats something we haven't gotten working, and getting that working would be a prereq for debugging 2.6 on it
09:05 < daniel_washere> Alrighty.. but I'd have no idea when it comes to hardware/device support or anything like that.
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09:17 < rvvs89> davidc__: You are probably one of the few people interested in this project with the skill to do that
09:17 < rvvs89> s/few/only/
09:30 < DataGhost> whoa
09:30 < DataGhost> just just dismissed printf/printk debugging just like that? :(
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12:03 < Alvaro> hi
12:06 < Alvaro> i'm just trying to find out if using ipodlinux is possible to use the video output of a 5G ipod
12:07 < DerPapst> there is no diver for viedo out. so no.
12:07 < Alvaro> okok
12:07 < Alvaro> thanks DerPapst
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12:50 < rvvs89> BleuLlama: Any chance you could add the Steam Community to ij2fi?
12:52 < DerPapst> rvvs89: nice nightlies :D
12:53 < rvvs89> Thank you :P
12:53 < rvvs89> I just have about 30 more modules to upload
12:53 < rvvs89> And associate icons with, and stuff
12:53 < DerPapst> though some modules are missing aren't they?
12:54 < rvvs89> Yeah, I went through Special:Module and got what still existed on people's various file hosting services
12:56 < rvvs89> Still uploading them, and still need to test that all the external modules actually build correctly
12:56 < rvvs89> Some of them are extremely dodgy
12:56 < DerPapst> mine will build :P
12:56 < rvvs89> It sure does :P
12:57 < rvvs89> Doesn't even build with a warning
12:58 < DerPapst> btw... dunno if you like that "idea"... how about an arcive that contains everything? pz2 and all modules... because right now downloading lots of modules will be a pain.
12:58 < rvvs89> Well, I thought about it, the problem is that due to the immense dodginess of non SVN modules, they tend to have extra files and lots of large files that are unnecessary
12:59 < rvvs89> So at the bottom is a tarball of all the SVN modules
12:59 < rvvs89> Called xpods.tar.gz
12:59 < rvvs89> Maybe I should rename it so it appears before all the individual modules
12:59 < DerPapst> ah.. nice :)
13:00 < DerPapst> how about "svn_modules.tar.gz"? :P
13:00 < rvvs89> s is before x, sounds good
13:00 * rvvs89 does that now
13:00 < DerPapst> ;)
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13:01 < rvvs89> It should appear in about 5 minutes, after it checks SVN and rebuilds everything
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13:04 < rvvs89> Ah, now I need to update .htaccess to set the icon...
13:04 < rvvs89> Heh, this is such a complete hackjob
13:07 < DerPapst> tough it's nice. but i guess making some kind of php script to list the index with all those pretty icons and text is easier then this htacces stuff.
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13:18 < rvvs89> Indeed, I imagine PHP is better at handling strings than C :S ...
13:19 < DerPapst> like a million times ;)
13:21 < rvvs89> Well, at least I know there will be no buffer overflow :P
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13:21 < rvvs89> Heh, I did it in C because I had some code I could reuse from this task manager I'm working on
13:22 < rvvs89> Probably would be better if I rewrote the whole thing to a makefile and actually made better use of variables
13:22 < rvvs89> Instead of echo-ing stuff to /dev/shm
13:24 < DataGhost> but eh
13:24 < DataGhost> you can just Options +Indexes in .htaccess and specify some icons for file extensions?
13:25 < DataGhost> hm wait
13:25 < DataGhost> still it's a bit funky
13:25 < DataGhost> rvvs89 set white-space: nowrap; (css) on the filename and date columns? :P
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13:28 < rvvs89> DataGhost: I have no experience with css, whatsoever, I simply have no idea what to do with that code
13:28 < rvvs89> Or even if the word set is part of the code
13:29 < rvvs89> But yeah, it does need that
13:30 < DataGhost>
13:30 < DataGhost> I guess. and iirc it's fancy new syntax so IE will probably not understand
13:31 < DataGhost> goes in the by the way
13:34 < rvvs89> IE not understanding? Makes it all the better then :P
13:34 < DataGhost> yeah
13:34 < DataGhost> it'll just still look silly in IE
13:34 < DataGhost> it works in Opera anyway, should work in FF and safari
13:34 < DataGhost> and you *might* want to consider using classes, but I guess this is both the easiest and smallest way to do it
13:35 < DataGhost> td + td means any td preceded by one td
13:35 < DataGhost> so it falls through for every text column, and for the last one it's cancelled again :P
13:35 < DerPapst> td td without the + will do the same
13:35 < DataGhost> no
13:35 < DerPapst> even on IE
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13:35 < DataGhost> that's td inside td
13:35 < DataGhost> td + td is td after td
13:35 < DerPapst> oh
13:36 < DataGhost> new css3 selector if I recall correctly
13:36 < DerPapst> ah...
13:36 < DataGhost> IE is still stuck somewhere around css1/2
13:36 < DataGhost> can be interpreted as 'half'
13:36 < DerPapst> of cource IE doesn't do that then :P
13:36 < DataGhost> :P
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13:36 < DerPapst> IE is the most retarded browser i've seen so far
13:38 < rvvs89> If I think about using classes, I might as well rewrite the whole AutoIndex module
13:38 < rvvs89> Or generate an HTML page
13:38 < rvvs89> Or something, slightly more difficult that I'm doing right now
13:39 < DataGhost> that will significantly increase the page size
13:39 < DataGhost> class="name" for every td
13:40 < DerPapst> who cares?
13:40 < DataGhost> bandwidth? :P he has a lot of | tags in there
13:41 < DerPapst> it won't be that much tough
13:45 < rvvs89> Meh, the style tag appeared inside the body
13:45 < rvvs89> It works in konqueror, anyone else care to try?
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13:46 < rvvs89> Works in FF too
13:47 < rvvs89> Oh, that's really interesting
13:48 < rvvs89> You can tell which module authors are using windows by the generated .htaccess file :P
13:50 < rvvs89> Ooh I can set SuppressHTMLPreamble, that would put it in head
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14:16 < rvvs89_> The shell server really seems to be having some problems lately...
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15:00 < johndoe> Does anyone in here have wierd problems in MPD with volume randomly jumping to like 223%... its loud!
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16:16 < BleuLlama> rvvs89: you can add the community info via the interface on ij2fi
16:17 < BleuLlama> i need to add a few more now, actually
16:17 < BleuLlama> johndoe: that's a known issue with 5.5 gen ipods
16:18 < fxb> http://ipl.nonb.org/ticket/43
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