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00:03 < daniel_washere> rvvs89: Thank's, just got the message.
00:06 < daniel_washere> DerPapst and courtc: Thank's for the kernel help, i managed to eh atleast get up to it compiling but failing on "asm-offsets.s".
00:07 < daniel_washere> But l`ll look into more now ^^
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00:29 < courtc> daniel_washere: not a problem.
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00:41 < dacs> i need help partition my IPod (5th Gen)
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01:00 < derFlo> dacs: i am back now
01:00 < derFlo> but i am quite tired
01:02 < dacs> derFlo: :)
01:02 < dacs> derFlo: i am waitting for you
01:07 < Paltsu> still awake, huh?
01:07 < Paltsu> what time is it?
01:07 < Orb> Paltsu, it's 8:07pm on Friday, the 23rd of November, in Chicago, Illinois.
01:07 < Paltsu> oh.
01:08 < derFlo> uh i've been sleeping for a moment
01:08 < Paltsu> it's 03:08am in Keuruu, Finland.
01:08 < derFlo> An 2:08 am in Ulm, Germany
01:08 < derFlo> *adnd
01:08 < derFlo> *AND
01:08 < Paltsu> just took amazing photos of my parents car in moonlight
01:08 < Paltsu> i'm just speechless.
01:09 < Paltsu> http://80.223.19.222/~imac/index/kuu_tamo/IMG_1651.JPG
01:10 < derFlo> looks amazing
01:10 < dacs> Paltsu: wow that is nice
01:10 < Paltsu> thanks.
01:10 < dacs> Paltsu: you should 've turned off the head lights thu
01:10 < Paltsu> yeah, tried that too.
01:11 < Paltsu> http://80.223.19.222/~imac/index/kuu_tamo/muog2.jpg
01:11 < Paltsu> it's amazing place just outside of this little town.
01:12 < dacs> NICE
01:13 < Paltsu> but the most amazing thing was that moon, i could drive without headlights
01:14 < daniel_washere> Hmmm can't find the file "asm-offsets.s" anywhere, even in the various locations. Oh well l`ll try look again later, i started a small guide that isnt finished :P (http://weeflee.net/?do=k2.6) of how far i got..
01:14 < dacs> Paltsu: nice i will really love to chat , but i want to setup my ipdo
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01:14 < Paltsu> oh, sorry for the offtopic.
01:16 < dacs> what kernel should i download for my 5th gen
01:17 < dacs> *which
01:24 < dacs> derFlo: which kernel should i choose
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01:56 < dacs> guys, i was following the wiki and i am stuck in partition
01:58 < dacs> i did,everything and now when i (p)but the 1st partition is not bootable start(1) End (10) blocks(80293+) id (0) System (Empty)
02:43 < dacs> wow is there is anyone here
02:43 < dacs> ./ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin
02:43 < dacs> not working i am getting an error that say INFO] Scanning disk devices...
02:43 < dacs> [ERR]  No ipods found, aborting
02:43 < dacs> [ERR]  Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode
02:43 < dacs> [ERR]  Please refer to the Rockbox manual if you continue to have problems.
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03:11 < haiger> ipodlinux.org is DOWN!
03:11 < animeloe> why>
03:11 < haiger> i have no idea can you access it now 
03:12 < haiger> it's timing out on me
03:13 < haiger> animeloe: can you confirm please
03:18 < haiger> helllo 
03:18 < animeloe> hold a sec
03:18 < animeloe> gah
03:18 < animeloe> my kb is going nuts
03:18 < haiger> :)
03:18 < animeloe> looks like it' getting time to replace it
03:18 < haiger> yea thats what i am getting
03:19 < haiger> the problem is that i am in a middle of instalation i need userladnd and ipodzilla
03:19 < animeloe> lol
03:19 < animeloe> that sucks
03:20 < animeloe> looks like ipodlinux is out to lunch
03:20 < haiger> can you help me out
03:22 < animeloe> well I can try
03:22 < animeloe> what you need?
03:23 < haiger> 1st a question: do i need userland and ipodzilla or only one
03:23 < haiger> for now, i want to get this sucker running :)
03:24 < animeloe> you need both
03:24 < animeloe> and ipodlinux in't very useful imo
03:24 < animeloe> it's a great example of the versitility of linu
03:24 < animeloe> x
03:24 < haiger> ok , is it possable to dcc me those files please
03:25 < animeloe> hold a sec
03:27 < animeloe> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079
03:27 < animeloe> that works
03:29 < haiger> animeloe: thanks
03:30 < animeloe> welcome
03:31 < haiger> animeloe: now where can i get ipodzilla
03:32 < animeloe> uhh
03:36 < haiger> animeloe: am i missing something
03:38 < animeloe> you can google it
03:38 < animeloe> I don't remember exactly where to get it
03:38 < animeloe> I rememebr looking for it through ipodlinux.org
03:39 < animeloe> but since it's out to lunch I can't give you a direct url
05:03 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/builds/podzilla2-1400.tar.gz
05:04 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/linux.bin.gz <-- no idea what's on there.
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05:10 < Orb> That's much better.
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07:13 < haiger> animeloe: are you still here bro
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08:52 < haiger> i have error (iPLoader 2.5 SVN-2363,when i choose iPodLinux i get a black screen with "File:(hd0,2)/Linux.bin;  Size:737887; type:unknow!" and it keep rebooting like this
08:53 < haiger> i have error (iPLoader 2.5 SVN-2363,when i choose iPodLinux i get a black screen with "File:(hd0,2)/Linux.bin;  Size:737887; type:unknow!" and it keep rebooting like this
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14:26 < alex742> can anyone help me
14:26 < alex742> is anyoone there
14:27 < alex742> Dose jedermann helfen mir
14:28 < alex742> hallo
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14:32 < alex765> hello
14:32 < alex765> someone plaease help me!!!
14:33 < alex765> HELLO
14:33 < alex765> 1111111111111
14:33 < alex765> FEWAWRGTERYHETYRT
14:33 < alex765> YTREUY
14:33 < alex765> SHIZER
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14:33 < derFlo> hi 
14:34 < derFlo> can i change the splash screen with those 3 tuxes (green white and red)?
15:09 < derFlo> (Change the img and recompile it)
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15:13 < teknofonix> I have a 5th gen 30gb video ipod
15:14 < teknofonix> last night I began to explore the possibility of putting linux on to it
15:15 < teknofonix> i came across ipodlinux and was delighted to see that much of what I had hoped I could achieve is possible - however the instructions on the website to be quite frank are really confusing and quite often misleading
15:16 < derFlo> teknofonix: it isn't that difficult to get linux on your ipod
15:17 < teknofonix>  i have had a modicum of success and using ipodpatcher I have managed to scan the device
15:17 < derFlo> teknofonix: the installer may not be working, but you can do it manually
15:17 < teknofonix> ok cool
15:17 < teknofonix> i tell you where i hit brick wall:)
15:17 < derFlo> teknofonix: have you already read the manual installation page?
15:17 < teknofonix> yes
15:18 < teknofonix> i need to rewrite 4 macbook
15:18 < teknofonix> its much easier - to a point than instructions:)
15:18 < teknofonix> but anyway....here is problem
15:19 < teknofonix> steves-macbook:Desktop home$ ./ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin
15:19 < teknofonix> i run that and it says
15:20 < teknofonix> [INFO] /dev/disk2: Resource busy
15:20 < teknofonix> but if i unmount ipod
15:20 < teknofonix> [ERR]  No ipods found, aborting
15:21 < derFlo> close itunes or other programs
15:21 < derFlo> and try it while it's mounted
15:21 < teknofonix> ok
15:21 < teknofonix> bbiab
15:26 < derFlo> teknofonix: does it work?
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15:30 < teknofonix> no - i  seem to be going round in a loop
15:30 < teknofonix> if i unmount the ipod ipodpatcher can't find if i mount it says its busy:(
15:31 < derFlo> teknofonix: i dont know where the problem might be, i dont know macOS
15:31 < teknofonix> air enough
15:31 < teknofonix> f*
15:32 < teknofonix> i need to go out now anyways - i will have a look later - thanks anyway
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16:17 < BleuLlama> teknofonix:  diskutil unmount /dev/disk2s3
16:17 < BleuLlama> as it says on the Manual Installation page "if ipodpatcher fails"
16:21 < derFlo> BleuLlama: Can you say me how to change that splash screen with the 3 tuxes on it?
16:21 < BleuLlama> it's in ttk's startup
16:22 < derFlo> ttk's startup? what iss ttk?
16:22 < BleuLlama> the graphics/gui interface that podzilla2 uses
16:22 < derFlo> ah ok
16:22 < derFlo> is it difficult to change that image?
16:23 < BleuLlama> if you know how to do it, it's simple.  but there's a lot to learn to get to that point
16:24 < derFlo> i have to change the picture, recompile ttk, and than?
16:25 < derFlo> hihi.. i can't even find the picture in the source
16:26 < BleuLlama> yep, change the icon, rebuild ttk, then rebuild podzilla, and copy the podzilla binary to your ipo
16:26 < BleuLlama> ipod
16:26 < BleuLlama> read the "building podzilla" articles on the wiki
16:26 < BleuLlama> you'll want to build it for your desktop to test things out
16:27 < BleuLlama> if you're on windows, youre out of lukc though.  you'll want to do it on OS X or Linux
16:27 < derFlo> BleuLlama: i am linux user
16:27 < BleuLlama> then you should be set.
16:27 < derFlo> BleuLlama: but the biggest problem for me is finding that image in the sources
16:28 < BleuLlama> grep for 'tux', and you'll find it
16:29 < derFlo> There's nothing - really
16:29 < derFlo> florian@florian-desktop:~/ipodlinux/podzillasrc$ find /home/florian/ipodlinux/podzillasrc/ttk | grep tux
16:29 < derFlo> florian@florian-desktop:~/ipodlinux/podzillasrc$ 
16:29 < BleuLlama> thats' the latest svn?
16:29 < derFlo> yes
16:29 < derFlo> ive downloaded it 5 minutes ago
16:30 < BleuLlama> you need to look at your command line there.  it's not doing what you think it is
16:31 < BleuLlama> read the man page on find, and you'll understand
16:31 < derFlo> BleuLlama: i think it does what i want it to do, find recursively all files in the directory, and grep gets all files containing tux in the name
16:32 < BleuLlama> here's another hint.  try this:   find ttk | grep sdl
16:32 < BleuLlama> notice what the output is.
16:32 < BleuLlama> man xargs
16:33 < derFlo> now i am confused..
16:33 < derFlo> add xargs cat | grep tux?
16:33 < BleuLlama> you want to grep the contents of the file, not the filenames, correct?
16:33 < BleuLlama> find ttk | xargs grep tux
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16:35 < derFlo> our beloved tux listening to his favourite BleuLlama mixtape on his iPod
16:35 < derFlo> :d
16:38 < BleuLlama> i think the positions on the screen are hardcoded in ttk to make it look reasonable on all sizes of ipods
16:38 < BleuLlama> just a heads up
16:38 < BleuLlama> i should probably keep the one in the center, then place the other two centered on either side of that one.  that'd probably look nicer
16:39 < derFlo> BleuLlama: i dont understand a lot of that source
16:39 < BleuLlama> then you know what you need to learn.  that's an excellent first step. :D
16:41 < derFlo> BleuLlama: I thougt i could just replace a picture file, recompile it and DONE.
16:41 < derFlo> BleuLlama: thats too much effort to me
16:41 < derFlo> BleuLlama: learning c or whatever that is
16:41 < BleuLlama> that's c.  
16:41 < derFlo> not c++?
16:42 < BleuLlama> correct
16:42 < derFlo> it is c without plus plus?
16:43 < BleuLlama> that image is only up for like a second any.  you probably would want something like bootsplash, which doesn't work currently.
16:43 < derFlo> No i dont like the bootsplashes
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16:44 < BleuLlama> okay, just trying to suggest something you could use to replace startup images. i thought that was what you wanted.
16:44 < derFlo> could you just tell me where those tuxes are coming from? 
16:44 < BleuLlama> ?
16:44 < BleuLlama> i already told you, and you already saw the source.
16:44 < derFlo> they arent in a png file or whatever
16:44 < BleuLlama> correct.
16:45 < derFlo> how are they drawn to the screen?
16:45 < BleuLlama> i already told you, and you already saw the source.
16:46 < derFlo> i don't understand a lot of the source :(
16:46 < BleuLlama> feel free to keep asking the same questions, i'll keep giving you the same answers
16:48 < derFlo> excuse me if i annoyed you
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16:48 < derFlo> but ttk_icon_tux is a variable i think
16:48 < derFlo> where is that var. defined?
16:50 < BleuLlama> the above grep should have shown you the file it was defined in, as well as the file where it was used
16:51 < derFlo> Okay, found it
16:51 < derFlo> thanks
16:52 < BleuLlama> you had even referred to that in your comment above.
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16:52 < derFlo> BleuLlama: yes but i copied it from the command line
16:52 < BleuLlama> ah
16:53 < derFlo> 0 is for transparent, 1 for white, 2 for black and 3 for?
16:55 < derFlo> BleuLlama: Am i wrong or am i wrong?
16:56 < BleuLlama> 1..3 should be varying levels of gray
16:57 < BleuLlama> depending on how it is rendered.
16:57 < BleuLlama> ie; when the tux is rendered for monochrome, they're grays, but for color, they're red/green/blue
16:58 < derFlo> So you can only create Pictures in one color with different grayscales in it?
16:58 < kick52> did anyone sort out that loader1 problem which took like 1 line to fix?
16:58 < kick52> the one with the pixel garbage
16:59 < BleuLlama> derFlo: for ttk icons, header icons, and that sort of thing, yeah.
16:59 < kick52> because one of the pictures was bigger than the other so the pixels werent cleared or something
16:59 < derFlo> BleuLlama: Okay. so i'll let it be.
17:00 < BleuLlama> kick52: loader1 has been basically abandoned in favour of loader2 which is significantly more flexible.
17:01 < derFlo> BleuLlama: i got still one other problem
17:01 < derFlo> terminal isnt working
17:02 < derFlo> i can type everything i want, there is no output.
17:03 < derFlo> ls / [play/stop]
17:03 < derFlo> => NOTHING. only jumps to next line
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17:12 < BleuLlama> dunno about that one.  i never use the terminal module, never looked at it at all.
17:12 < derFlo> okay
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17:37 < teknofonix> http://pastie.caboo.se/121467
17:38 < teknofonix> mounted its busy unmounted it can't find!??
17:39 < bannedguy> try running this:
17:40 < bannedguy> diskutil unmount /dev/disk2s3
17:45 < teknofonix> ok i think that worked
17:45 < teknofonix> [INFO] [ERR]  Couldn't open input file loader.bin
17:45 < teknofonix> [ERR]  --add-bootloader failed.
17:45 < teknofonix> but i guess i need the loader.bin
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17:46 < bannedguy> yeah, download loader2 and put it in he same directory
17:46 < bannedguy> *the
17:47 < teknofonix> great stuff this is going well now:)
17:47 < teknofonix> once i've done it I will rewrite some notes for the website only the instructions there are to be honest pretty awfull:)
17:51 < Gazah> bleu
17:52 < BleuLlama> what?
17:52 < Gazah> im using maual install using windows
17:52 < Gazah> ipodpatcher found the ipod 
17:53 < Gazah> i also put in ipodpatch r- ipodpartition
17:53 < Gazah> but hasnt backed up
17:53 < Gazah> ipodpatch r- ipodpartition.bin *
17:54 < BleuLlama> that's not the line on the wiki page.
17:54 < Gazah> it is
17:54 < BleuLlama> plus, i can't really help you.  i've never done an install from windows.
17:54 < BleuLlama> no it's ./ipodpatcher -r bootpartition.bin
17:54 < Gazah> yes
17:54 < Gazah> but on it
17:55 < Gazah> it says dontput ./ if your a windows user
17:55 < BleuLlama> right, but that still wasn't the same as what you typed
17:55 < BleuLlama> r-?
17:55 < Gazah> yes
17:55 < Gazah> # ./ipodpatcher -r bootpartition.bin
17:55 < BleuLlama> that's not what you typed, twice
17:56 < BleuLlama> regardless, i can;t help you. 
17:56 < teknofonix> ok we're cooking on gas http://pastie.caboo.se/121474
17:56 < Gazah> okay i did ipodpatcher -r ipodpartition.bin
17:56 < Gazah> sitll not work
17:57 < BleuLlama> how did it not work? what did it tell you?  what kind of error response did it return... we can't read your mind.
17:57 < Gazah> it said reading firmware
17:57 < Gazah> then goes very quick closing the ipodpatcher tool
17:58 < BleuLlama> what ipod, what OS, etc.  you're not giving all of the details that someone who /can/ help can use to help you
17:59 < Gazah> 1st Gen Ipod Nano, Windows Xp Sp 2
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18:05 < Gazah> well can i have help now
18:09 < teknofonix> To install the Userland, extract it to the root of your iPod. <--- explain where the root of ipod is please?
18:10 < teknofonix> can i just drag the folder onto my ipod icon on the desktop?
18:23 < bannedguy> mac or pc?
18:24 < bannedguy> teknofonix: mac or pc?
18:24 < teknofonix> mac
18:24 < teknofonix> but i am right i think
18:24 < bannedguy> yup
18:25 < bannedguy> just drag it to the ipod icon on your desktop
18:28 < teknofonix> actually ,do i drag the contents of the folder 'ipod_fs_2206006.tar' across or can i just drag the whole folder?
18:29 < teknofonix> i tried in terminal # cd /Volumes/<Your_iPod>/
18:29 < teknofonix> # tar xvzf /<path_to>/Ipod_fs_220606.tar.gz
18:29 < teknofonix> but it didn't appear to do anything
18:30 < teknofonix> a right i know why that didn't work - sorry being a twit:)
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18:47 < bannedguy> the wiki is down
18:47 < bannedguy> BleuLlama: what's up with that?
18:48 < bannedguy> ok then...
18:48 < bannedguy> courtc: do you know why the wiki is down?
18:49 < bannedguy> teknofonix: extract ipod_fs_xxxxxx.tar.gz to your root
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18:50 < bannedguy> err...place the ipod_fs file on your ipod root and extract it there
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19:04 < bannedguy> wiki is still down
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19:12 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Did the website just go down?
19:19 < BleuLlama> it's been up and down the past day or so
19:19 < BleuLlama> was up about an hour ago
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19:21 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I know it just went down on me as I was installing podzilla 2
19:22 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Now I cant download the neccessary files.
19:22 < teknofonix> me 2:(
19:23 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Does podzilla 2 start automaticly once you finish installing it?
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19:24 < teknofonix> i installed the bootloader and it worked once but now I cant get it to appear do i need to hold down a button on startup or something?  5th gen macpod
19:25 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> try reinstalling
19:25 < teknofonix> ok
19:26 < BleuLlama> it should display the loader2 interface when you reboot, assuming you installed it correctly
19:27 < teknofonix> assuming i probably didn't
19:28 < bannedguy> if it worked once it should work again
19:28 < teknofonix> i havn't got any linux stuff other than the bootloader working yet
19:28 < bannedguy> try holding MENU + CENTER for 5-6 seconds
19:28 < BleuLlama> teknofonix: you probably didn't reboot. you probably just woke it from sleep
19:29 < BleuLlama> bannedguy: didn't you ask to be removed from this project?  explain why I shouldn't kickban you from this channel as well.
19:29 < teknofonix> ah thats possible i suppose
19:30 < bannedguy> BleuLlama: either way is fine
19:30 < bannedguy> it doesn't really matter
19:30 < teknofonix> ok didn't turn it off properly
19:30 < teknofonix> :(
19:31 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> podzilla two doesnt start automaticly for me is that normal
19:31  * teknofonix feels really stupid sometimes:(
19:31 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> to load it I have to go to file browser and click the thing
19:31 < bannedguy> teknofonix: simply sleeping it won't bring you back to loader2, you'll need to bring it out of a deep sleep or reboot
19:31 < bannedguy> ;)
19:32 < teknofonix> bannedguy: i now that know:)
19:32 < bannedguy> cool
19:32 < teknofonix> great this is so cool - just getting a bootloader on my ipod
19:32  * teknofonix not feeling quite so stupid now
19:33 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> which version do you have?
19:33 < teknofonix> Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("macpod") - /dev/disk2
19:34 < bannedguy> teknofonix: check out some of the other bootloaders as well, there are some that allow you to have submenus
19:34 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> i ment of the bootloader
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19:35 < teknofonix> will refit work?
19:35 < teknofonix> a mac bootloader
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19:36 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> is the website working for you?
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19:37 < teknofonix> not at the moment
19:37 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> how did you reinstall?
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19:38 < Immortal_at_home> !help
19:38 < bannedguy> Immortal_at_home: what's the problem?
19:39 < Immortal_at_home> Me just wants know the nano 2g cracking status...
19:39 < BleuLlama> read the topic
19:40 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin>  No progress for 2nd Gen nanos 
19:41 < bannedguy> I don't think anyone's working on it much anymore
19:41 < bannedguy> test
19:42 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> you could help by donating you 2nd gen nano lol
19:43 < BleuLlama> none of the core devs are working on it.  It really would require destructive RE at this point to get anywhere, and even that's not a definite that it will produce results.
19:44 < BleuLlama> so we're all working on getting various other elements debugged, fixed, and up to a point that we can be proud of.
19:44 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> if my 2nd gen ever breaks ill donate it
19:44 < Immortal_at_home> May be Steve Jobs know, how to crack it? 
19:44 < bannedguy> and how might we be able to get that from him?
19:44 < BleuLlama> don't be idiotic.
19:45 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I remember finding some page on your website saying that..
19:46 < teknofonix> http://macfriendly.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Mac/loader2.jpg
19:46 < HardDisk_WP> maybe f*ck his secretary woman to get the keys *scnr*
19:47 < BleuLlama> HardDisk_WP: keep it family friendly in here. this is your only warning
19:47 < teknofonix> i tried that any it didn't work HardDisk_WP 
19:47 < BleuLlama> teknofonix: is it a macpod?
19:47 < teknofonix> yup
19:47 < HardDisk_WP> BleuLlama, okok^^
19:47 < HardDisk_WP> teknofonix, lol^^
19:47 < BleuLlama> teknofonix: 80gig?
19:47 < teknofonix> 30
19:48 < Immortal_at_home> Can it be exploited through address book?
19:48 < BleuLlama> there's a patch to fix that, it probably can't find the linux kernel.bin file you put on the harddisk
19:48 < teknofonix> have not got kernel website was down
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19:48 < BleuLlama> Immortal_at_home: there's nothing to exploit.  you don't even know what the CPU opcodes are, or how it works.  it's not as easy as you think it is
19:48 < BleuLlama> teknofonix: ah. then what's the problem?
19:49 < teknofonix> no problem just giving progress report if thats OK
19:49 < bannedguy> The only way I can think of executing code on a nano, especially the 3rd gen, would be to run it through an iPod game, but we havn't gotten iPod Games working on those yet
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19:50 < bannedguy> maybe we could execute code through a photo, or maybe a song on the 2nd gen, but that's just me :)
19:50 < BleuLlama> bannedguy: but you still don't know anything about the cpu architecture, so you don't know what to run on it.
19:50 < bannedguy> yeah
19:51 < BleuLlama> nor is it possible to know where holes might be.
19:51 < BleuLlama> this is a pointless discussion.  i'm out of here.
19:51 < bannedguy> I know ichaelmay8 was able to make an IPG that rebooted the iPod
19:51 < bannedguy> ok then ,bye
19:52 < Immortal_at_home> Ok, if i'm broke my iPOD, what i can do with it to run linux? 
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20:26 < teknofonix> is the website down?
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20:27 < BleuLlama> yes. still down.
20:27 < teknofonix> ok
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20:38 < freepenguin> hello
20:39 < freepenguin> what do you think about Ipod touch
20:39 < freepenguin> does it works with GNU/Linux?
20:39 < freepenguin> what should I use to manage it?
20:40 < freepenguin> ?
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22:18 < bannedguy> I'm having trouble with Loader2
22:18 < bannedguy> I've created a loader.cfg, but Loader2 doesn't show the contents of it
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22:19 < bannedguy> I even have kernel.bin on my root and it won't show iPodLinux as an option
22:19 < bannedguy> any ideas?
22:25 < bannedguy> oh, and the main page is broken, but the rest is fine
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22:30 < BleuLlama> 5.5g 80gig?
22:30 < BleuLlama> hfs? (macpod)?
22:32 < bannedguy> yeah
22:32 < bannedguy> 5g
22:32 < bannedguy> 30gig
22:32 < bannedguy> i think it might be trouble with the bootpartition
22:35 < bannedguy> still there?
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22:37 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I have a problem with podzilla 2 when I load it the only options I get are extra's (nothing in this folder), settings and power. I have a 1st gen 1gig nano. and its a Winpod
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22:41 < BleuLlama> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: install modules.
22:41 < BleuLlama> bannedguy: not sure.  i know there are some issues with loader2 and HFS ipods
22:41 < bannedguy> yeah, I just saw a quote on the forums talking about it
22:41 < bannedguy> I'll give 2.4 a try and see if that makes any difference
22:42  * bannedguy shrugs
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22:42 < BleuLlama> or try the latest SVN. that might fix it.
22:42 < BleuLlama> DerPapst: has the HFS loader2 patch been applied to svn
22:42 < BleuLlama> DerPapst: http://umlautllama.com/rand/?q=pz2-mikmodule-r51
22:42  * BleuLlama heads out
22:43 < DerPapst> huh?
22:43 < bannedguy> HFS+ and loader2
22:43 < bannedguy> has the patched been applied
22:43 < BleuLlama> DerPapst: bannedguy here (kev1) is having issues with loader2 on his HFS pod
22:43 < DerPapst> ah
22:43 < bannedguy> it happened once before, fixed it by installing ipodloader1
22:43 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: dunno if the patch is in svn :)
22:43 < bannedguy> not the best way to resolve the problem :P
22:44 < BleuLlama> (and the second thing is the updated mikmodule visualizers. - screenshots)  will record a movie later.
22:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o DerPapst ] by BleuLlama
22:44 < DerPapst> nice :)
22:45 < bannedguy> DerPapst: should I give 2.4 a try?
22:45 < DerPapst> nope
22:46 < DerPapst> have you tried the binary i posted on the forums?
22:46 < DerPapst> dunno where.. have to search
22:46 < bannedguy> searching...
22:46 < bannedguy> I saw your comment on the problem, but I'll look for the actual think
22:47 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=237739#237739
22:47 < DerPapst> there
22:47 < DerPapst> get it and try it out.
22:47 < DerPapst> i assume you know how to update the loader?
22:47 < bannedguy> sure
22:47 < DerPapst> good :)
22:48 < bannedguy> I don't have a 5.5g, but it might help :)
22:50 < DerPapst> seems to be an odd thing in general with macpods
22:50 < DerPapst> though only a few people have problems
22:50 < bannedguy> I'll be darneed
22:50 < bannedguy> *darned
22:50 < bannedguy> thanks much :D
22:51 < DerPapst> the last guy i've seen had problems because he had a slightly different diskgeometry
22:51 < bannedguy> muchos happiness :D
22:52 < DerPapst> works?
22:53 < bannedguy> well, it found kernel.bin
22:53 < bannedguy> I'll have to look into loader.cfg though
22:53 < DerPapst> test without a loader.cfg first
22:53 < teknofonix> which kernel did you use?
22:54 < DerPapst> just rename your kernel to linux.bin and put that into your Pods root
22:54 < bannedguy> loader found the kernel.bin
22:54 < DerPapst> teknofonix: the one from the Download page
22:54 < DerPapst> same as on the manual installation one
22:54 < teknofonix> ok
22:54 < bannedguy> it didn't find loader.cfg, which was placed in Notes, due to a previous attempt to get it to work
22:54 < bannedguy> i've moved it back, and...
22:55  * bannedguy is rebooting my ipod
22:55 < DerPapst> teknofonix: btw i read your comment about this page being awful. can you explain me what exactly isn't understandable... since i made this page
22:55 < bannedguy> err...wait, that's all that was on my loader
22:55 < teknofonix> perhaps awful was a bit strong
22:55 < bannedguy> nvm, loader.cfg is working very well in both the root and the Notes folder
22:56 < DerPapst> bannedguy: so loader 2 can read the loader.cfg?
22:56 < bannedguy> yup
22:56 < DerPapst> w00t
22:56 < bannedguy> would you like me to add it to the wiki page?
22:56 < DerPapst> until now it's a not very nice patch
22:57 < bannedguy> ok then
22:57 < DerPapst> maybe i should revive Loader 2 Testing (or however it was called)
22:57 < bannedguy> yeah
22:57 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I have a problem with podzilla 2 when I load it the only options I get are extra's (nothing in this folder), settings and power. I have a 1st gen 1gig nano. and its a Winpod
22:57 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: are any modules installed?
22:58 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Yes
22:58 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I installed the latest
22:58 < DerPapst> and you're sure you installed the modules corretly?
22:58 < DerPapst> on the ext3 partition under /usr/lib?
22:58 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> you know I mean podzilla 2
22:58 < teknofonix> I will try and get everything working and then will write it all down
22:59 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: yes. and i mean podzilla 2 modules
22:59 < DerPapst> without them your menu is empty
22:59 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> the guide told me to just make a folder called modules in the direct root
22:59 < DerPapst> teknofonix: ok. do so
23:00 < DerPapst> teknofonix: btw there is an explanation about "root" on that page
23:00 < DerPapst> maybe not at the correct place.
23:00 < DerPapst> not sure
23:00 < teknofonix> yes i saw that it was cool
23:01 < DerPapst> the page isn't old yet.. it was made one week ago. so there is still some room for improvements.. and since i can install iPL while sleeping i might have made some asumptions that aren't clear and need further explanations
23:02 < bannedguy> DerPapst: when did you start being a mod?
23:02 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> DerPapst: so im supposed to make a folder called modules under usr->lib and put the modules there?
23:03 < bannedguy> urs/lib should already exist
23:03 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> It does
23:03 < bannedguy> ok
23:03 < bannedguy> just but all the modules in there then
23:03 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I mean in that folder do I put in a folder called "modules" and stick the modules in there
23:03 < bannedguy> *put
23:03 < bannedguy> no
23:03 < bannedguy> each module has it's own folder
23:04 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I know
23:04 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> do I put that all in there
23:04 < bannedguy> yup
23:04 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: you put the modules directly in /usr/lib without creating an extra directory
23:05 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> ooook
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23:07 < bannedguy> whoops!
23:10 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> for some reason Ltools isnt letting me copy and paste the crap
23:11 < bannedguy> You need to make your ext3 partition r/w
23:11 < bannedguy> not read only
23:11 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> it is
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23:12 < DerPapst> iirc you can only copy one file at a time with lttol. not sure. used it only once for 5 minutes :P
23:12 < bannedguy> hmm...
23:12 < DerPapst> *ltools
23:12 < bannedguy> I'd just do a start file
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23:12 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I did and it doesnt work
23:12  * DerPapst nods
23:12 < bannedguy> DerPapst: Would you mind doing me a HUGE favor?
23:12 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> even if I do one file at a time it doesnt work
23:12 < DerPapst> depends
23:13 < bannedguy> could you apply the HFS+ patch to iloadz?
23:13 < DerPapst> don't know enough about ltools to be of any help
23:13 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> bannedguy: am I doing this correctly I copy and paste the code from the site save the file as start.
23:13 < DerPapst> bannedguy: is the source of iloadz available anywhere?
23:14 < bannedguy> DerPapst: one sec...
23:15 < bannedguy> apparently not...
23:15 < bannedguy> i guess that means no
23:15 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> How do I create the start file?
23:16 < bannedguy> Open a new document in wordpad or notepad and put in commands, line by line, then save the file as start and put it in your FAT root
23:17 < DerPapst> bannedguy: unfortunately yes.... this is a general problem of our "contributors". they do some stuff, release a binary but never source
23:17 < teknofonix>  make it executable (chmod +x). How do I do this?  What do I type?
23:17 < bannedguy> I can work with iboot advanced
23:17 < bannedguy> ill try to find the source for that
23:17 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: http://ipodlinux.org/Start_File
23:18 < DerPapst> teknofonix: chmod +x /path/to/file.bin
23:18 < teknofonix> thanks
23:19 < DerPapst> on linux or macosx i guess you can use right click on this file > Properties > and make it executable ther
23:21 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> ok now when I open it it says no modules podzilla will be very boring
23:22 < DerPapst> did it say that before?
23:22 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> no
23:22 < DerPapst> eh?
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23:22 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: can you go to www.pastebin.ca and paste the start file there?
23:22 < DerPapst> and post the link here
23:23 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> sure
23:23 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> http://www.pastebin.ca/796294
23:23 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I have the modules directly on the root
23:23 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> so it should all be correct
23:27 < DerPapst> have you a folder "modules" on your fat32 partition?
23:28 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> you mean like in the root
23:28 < DerPapst> and better use mnt instead of hp like this http://www.pastebin.ca/796299
23:28 < DerPapst> yes
23:28 < bannedguy> And Loader2.5 doesn't allow for submenus?
23:29 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> yeah I have modules directly in my root
23:29 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> same place where the ipod controls folder is
23:31 < DerPapst> bannedguy. nope.. unless someone re-implements them... but they probably won't make them into SVN
23:31 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> ok I used your start text it still doesnt work
23:31 < bannedguy> sigh...why don't people just post source?!
23:31 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: should work then....
23:31 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I also tried putting back the origional podzilla in the bin and leave podzilla 2 in my root
23:31 < DerPapst> bannedguy: exactly.. infact there are violating laws....
23:32 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> so I have to load it from the file browser
23:32 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> and it still doesnt work
23:32 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> and ltools wont copy and paste to I cant just stick it in the bin either
23:32 < bannedguy> you mean the GPL laws?  yeah, I guess...
23:32 < DerPapst> you have a filebrowser in podzilla?
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23:32 < DerPapst> bannedguy: yupp
23:32 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> podzilla 1
23:32 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> yeah
23:33 < BHSPitLappy> dah
23:34 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> is there any other program that will allow me to go to usr and those folders besides LTOOLS
23:35 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: can you check with podzilla 1's filebrowser what is in /usr/lib?
23:35 < bannedguy> Is there any known way to fix the problem w/o the patch?
23:35 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> sur
23:35 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: yes. linux :)
23:35 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> empty
23:37 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> is it supposed to be empty?
23:37 < DerPapst> hrmm....
23:37 < DerPapst> no
23:37 < DerPapst> everything in /mnt/modules should be in there
23:38 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I cant get anything in there because when I try to copy and paste something using LTOOLS it just loads for a sec and nothing.
23:39  * MeTrOiD014|Kevin just got an idea
23:39 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> what if I changed the start file for the modules to me mnt
23:40 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> oh w8
23:40 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> you already did that
23:40 < DerPapst> try it out.
23:40 < DerPapst> maybe it works
23:41 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> when you did that paste bin thing I tried it it didnt
23:41 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> http://www.pastebin.ca/796310
23:41 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> would that work
23:43 < bannedguy> is there any known way to fix the HFS+ Loader2 problem w/o the patch?
23:44 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: one of the lines is wrong. it has to be:
23:44 < DerPapst> mv /mnt/modules/* /usr/lib/
23:44 < DerPapst> bannedguy: hexedit it? but you don't want to do that ;)
23:44 < bannedguy> I'll do it if I must
23:44 < bannedguy> no joking
23:45 < DerPapst> maybe ask the authors jgkace (or so) for the source?
23:45 < bannedguy> chances of getting to him are low, but I'll give it a try (no email, only a myspace page)
23:46 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> Is there any other program other then LTOOLS on this earth that can access those files
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23:47 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: yes. linux
23:47 < DerPapst> do you have DSL?
23:48 < DerPapst> and a cd burner + an emptly cd?
23:48 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I have cable
23:48 < bannedguy> oh boy, live cd time
23:48 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I do have a cd burner and cd
23:48 < DerPapst> then maybe ger a linux live CD :)
23:48 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> but cables better then DSL can I still use itr
23:48 < DerPapst> *get
23:49 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> how?
23:49 < DerPapst> as long as you don't use modem or isdn... ;)
23:49 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> and what is linux live
23:50 < bannedguy> So, I'm in iloadz in HexEdit, now what?
23:50 < DerPapst> download a linux iso and burn it to the CD. http://ipodlinux.org/Accessing_ext2#Linux_Live_CD
23:51 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> which one?
23:51 < DerPapst> bannedguy: get a patched loader and figure out which part has changed compared to the official loader. then serach for the same paddings in iLoadz and change them :P
23:51 < bannedguy> I'm on it
23:52 < DerPapst> MeTrOiD014|Kevin: whichever you like. Slax which is smaller in size or ubuntu which claims to be userfriendly
23:52 < bannedguy> err...nevermind...
23:53 < bannedguy> there's no way to revert a binary to source?
23:53 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> can you give me the download link for ubuntu on live
23:53 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> caus there website confuses me *feels stupid*
23:54 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> I dont know if id be downloading the entire system or just the live cd
23:54 < bannedguy> I guess not...
23:57 < DerPapst> bannedguy: run it though an disassembler?
23:57 < bannedguy> googling
23:57 < DerPapst> but the you'll only have the asm
23:57 < DerPapst> still not very usefull ;)
23:57 < DerPapst> at least not for what you want to accomplish
23:58 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> DerPapst: for ubuntu do I just click download and save the stuff on a cd?
23:59 < DerPapst> you should download an *.iso file.. nero or most other buring programs should be able to understand isos and burn the content of the iso on the CD
23:59 < DerPapst> not the iso itsself
23:59 < MeTrOiD014|Kevin> confusion
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