--- Log opened Thu Oct 25 00:00:03 2007 00:12 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@14-217.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:26 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 00:33 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:57 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 02:35 -!- Santanabaer is now known as Santana 02:43 -!- Santana is now known as Santanabaer 02:59 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:00 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:17 -!- deameyes [n=deameyes@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com] has quit ["Java user signed off"] 04:23 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:56 -!- rager [n=rager@DN800c920d.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 05:07 -!- Luke [n=Luke@74-132-228-30.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:07 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 05:16 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:21 -!- rager [n=rager@DN800c920d.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:23 -!- imphasin1 [n=alex@pool-71-255-209-76.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:35 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 05:36 -!- Barbarella [n=brauberg@echo472.server4you.de] has joined #ipodlinux 05:39 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 05:40 -!- imphasing [n=alex@pool-71-246-70-248.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:41 -!- Barbarella [n=brauberg@echo472.server4you.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:21 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 06:43 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:50 -!- sliverqueen [n=sliverst@cma-10-214.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 06:53 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 07:20 -!- sliverqueen [n=sliverst@cma-10-214.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 07:34 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 07:39 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:03 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.200.252] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:03 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 08:06 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 08:11 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:24 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.200.252] has joined #ipodlinux 08:30 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 09:15 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 09:21 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@2-129.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 09:24 -!- Thijs [n=thijs@cc849762-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 09:49 < Thijs> hi 09:54 < Thijs> DataGhost? 10:01 < Thijs> any dev here? 10:05 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:16 < DataGhost> I was just about to leave Thijs, be quick 10:17 -!- JohnNy64-konik [i=johnny64@phoenix.wheel.sk] has joined #iPodLinux 10:19 < DataGhost> or if you really must, I can get online in the train (which leaves in about 17 minutes) 10:21 < DataGhost> have to go now, bye 10:25 -!- JohnNy64-konik_ [i=johnny64@phoenix.wheel.sk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:29 < Thijs> lol 10:29 < Thijs> i guess iam too late 10:30 < Thijs> hmm.. i think any dev can help me out 10:31 < Thijs> anyone fammiliar with ipodpatcher ? 10:33 < Thijs> i need to override the 'apple copyright' check 10:33 < Thijs> [ERR] Firmware partition doesn't contain Apple copyright, aborting. 10:36 -!- JohnNy64-konik [i=johnny64@phoenix.wheel.sk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:36 < Thijs> anyone ? 10:38 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:38 -!- [Sur`DataGhost] [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 10:39 < Thijs> ey dataghost 10:39 < Thijs> online in train ? 10:46 -!- JohnNy64-konik [i=johnny64@phoenix.wheel.sk] has joined #iPodLinux 10:47 -!- dionoea [n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:47 -!- dionoea [n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 -!- DataGhostT [n=king@77.62.116.197] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 < DataGhostT> Thijs sorry I got disconnected apparenty, at home. 11:09 < DataGhostT> and I missed my train and then forgot all about you 11:10 < Thijs> haha 11:10 < DataGhostT> anyway, I have a patched ipodpatcher somewhere, let me see if I can locate it quickly 11:10 < Thijs> no problem DG 11:10 < DataGhostT> if you have dd you should use that to 'restore' 11:10 < Thijs> ive already solved it partly with dd 11:10 < DataGhostT> it's loads better :) 11:10 < DataGhostT> hm ok 11:10 < Thijs> yeah i did 11:10 < Thijs> ive took some preparation steps first, so ive extracted bootpartition.bin before doing anything else 11:11 < DataGhostT> hm ok 11:11 < DataGhostT> best is to keep a backup of the entire partition, I gues. 11:11 < DataGhostT> +s 11:12 < Thijs> its the 40MB file, isnt it ? 11:12 < DataGhostT> oh great, I have ipodpatcher-force.exe and ipodpatcher-force2.exe 11:12 < DataGhostT> well 40MB is sufficient ,the partition itself is 128MB (80GB 5.5G) or eh... 80-96 MB typically, I guess. I don't remember what kind of iPod you have 11:13 < Thijs> ive got an ipod mini v1 11:13 < DataGhostT> anyway, can't help you with that now. You can get an ipodpatcher-force if you just comment out some 'return' or 'exit' things from the source code 11:13 < DataGhostT> so it'll continue even after failed checks 11:13 < DataGhostT> and my connection is failing 11:13 < Thijs> ok 11:14 < Thijs> so you're now gonna get your train ? 11:14 < DataGhostT> huh, you sent that reply while I'm not receiving anything from the server? :o 11:14 < DataGhostT> I'm in it (ah, lag is gone) 11:15 < DataGhostT> rvvs89 i'm not regged so I can't pong 11:15 < rvvs89> I see 11:15 < Thijs> haha ok 11:15 < rvvs89> Well, you got the ping anyway :P 11:15 < DataGhostT> den bosch - eindhoven. it always fails near vught 11:15 < Thijs> and are there maybe also checks if firmware is correct, because now its bugging me about 11:15 < Thijs> [ERR] Model name in input file ( /-) doesn't match ipod model (mini) 11:16 < Thijs> i guess its made for 'clean' images only.. not for test ones ? 11:16 < DataGhostT> eh. weird. I've seen people load the loader as 'firmware' instead of bootloader 11:17 < Thijs> lol its qutie funny because i totally forgot how i did copy test images in the past 11:17 -!- imphasing [n=alex@pool-71-125-170-38.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:17 < DataGhostT> it only complains when it can't find the apple stuff on the iPod because it can't check whether or not it actually is one then 11:17 < DataGhostT> dd? :) 11:17 < Thijs> yeah dd sure 11:17 < Thijs> i guess its was something like patch_fw my_test_image.bin orginal_boot.bin and then dd if=orginal_boot.bin of=bla 11:19 < DataGhostT> hm and my nickname at home isn 11:19 < DataGhostT> 't quite right 11:20 -!- [Sur`DataGhost] is now known as DataGhost 11:20 < DataGhost> vnc over umts :) 11:22 < Thijs> lol... have too much money to spend? 11:22 < Thijs> dd on windows is very slow :( 11:22 < rvvs89> That's because it's windows :D 11:23 < Thijs> any suggestion? knoppix? cygwin? or better ? 11:23 < rvvs89> I use Kubuntu, but if you want to keep Windows then I don't really have any suggestions 11:24 < Thijs> i have a laptop near me which can be dedicated linux 11:24 < rvvs89> By "keep Windows" I suppose I mean "not partition your hdd" 11:24 < DataGhostT> worse, it reverted to gprs :X 11:24 < DataGhostT> anyway, I have an unlimited plan Thijs :) 11:24 < rvvs89> Eh, I have to go, be back later 11:24 < Thijs> oke rvvs89 11:24 < Thijs> -e 11:24 < Thijs> :) 11:24 < DataGhostT> me too, almost near TU/e 11:24 < DataGhostT> bye :) 11:24 < Thijs> ah near me 11:25 < DataGhostT> :o 11:25 < DataGhostT> I thought you were at UTwente? 11:25 < Thijs> i can hear the train actually i guess 11:25 < Thijs> hmm... iam actually at Saxion Enschede 11:25 < DataGhostT> or near. heh. your hostname said enschede 11:25 < DataGhostT> that's a bit away. anyway. gotta go. bye :) 11:25 < Thijs> ok bye 11:25 -!- DataGhostT [n=king@77.62.116.197] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22.2"] 11:33 -!- imphasin1 [n=alex@pool-71-255-209-76.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:53 < Thijs> ah fuck.. 11:53 < Thijs> guess i've touched the music partition :( 12:00 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@2-129.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 12:01 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@2-129.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:26 < Thijs> anyone here? 12:27 < rvvs89> Myes 12:27 < Thijs> ah nice 12:27 < Thijs> i thought you had to go 12:28 < Thijs> as you may notices, i think i did some dd failure, so now i guess my whole music partition is lost :) 12:28 < Thijs> but ok.. things can happen 12:29 < Thijs> good point is now.. i dont have to worry about it anymore 12:29 < rvvs89> I did have to go :) 12:29 < rvvs89> That was over an hour ago tho 12:29 < Thijs> yes 12:30 < Thijs> but now i want to try out some code... can i make easilly use of the loader 12:30 < rvvs89> What do you mean? 12:31 < Thijs> i mean... i have some test code compiled and i want to make the ipod execute that code at boot 12:31 < Thijs> i know there is a loader that can boot several things 12:32 < rvvs89> So, this is an iPodLinux executable? A bFLT binary? 12:32 < Thijs> just a gcc compiled file with arm cross compiler 12:33 < rvvs89> Did you use elf2flt? 12:34 < rvvs89> (I'm not sure if uClinux can load elfs) 12:34 < Thijs> hmm 12:35 < Thijs> i dont need the linux part actually 12:37 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@2-129.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 12:39 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 13:00 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host110-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 13:06 < Thijs> but rvvs89. do you have an idea how to run such code without patching the orignal bootloader every time and copy 40mb 13:08 < rvvs89> Thijs: Unless you're writing another bootloader, I don't know why you would want to do that 13:09 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@2-129.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 13:11 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@117.102.128.219] has joined #ipodlinux 13:32 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@117.102.128.219] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:57 < rvvs89> I would talk to courtc/win 11 13:57 < rvvs89> Curses, I forgot to backspace 13:57 < rvvs89> Anyway, I would talk to courtc or davidc__ 13:57 < BleuLlama> heh 14:05 < fxb> you can't just compile a c program and execute that code a boot time 14:06 < fxb> you'd need some asm code and link it right 14:06 < fxb> but i know nothing. 14:11 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:21 -!- kick52_ [n=kick52-s@91.108.250.79] has joined #ipodlinux 14:22 -!- imphasing_ [n=Alex@c-76-114-179-230.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:31 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 14:36 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.200.252] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:36 -!- kick52_ is now known as kick52 14:39 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 15:07 < Thijs> leachbj does,, but he doesnt show up here 15:12 < Thijs> still have some logs from 2004 :) maybe that make something clear 15:15 < BleuLlama> i'd suggest just looking at how the bootloader is built and such. 15:16 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host110-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:23 < Thijs> i dont need to know how the bootloader is built.. more interested how i can make use of it 15:23 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 15:23 < BleuLlama> hrm... what are you trying to do? what are your goals here? 15:24 < Thijs> have you forgotten ? 15:24 < BleuLlama> (don't mean to sound like a jerk; if i do, i apologize; i'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from) 15:24 < Thijs> iam from the netherlands :) 15:25 < BleuLlama> i guess i have forgotten. i suck at remembering things... which is why i love things like Trac, and tadalist.com to remember things for me 15:25 < Thijs> ok.. let me explain :) 15:25 < BleuLlama> I've heard the Netherlands are really pretty. i was working with a guy from there about 10 years ago, back when i was full-force into hacking pac/arcade roms 15:29 < Thijs> i was here about 3 years ago... 2004... i got an ipod mini, and mini support was not yet available, so i did some testing with certain people such as leachbj, nills, davidc, courtc etc... now mini is nicely working but one thing isnt still working and that is serial support for 4g/mini. leachbj and i did many testing on that and we came far, but never got it fully working, so now after many years i'd like to give the serial support another tr 15:29 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:30 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 15:31 < BleuLlama> okay. yeah. i remember you from back then, but i wasn't sure why you needed a bootloader-like replacement 15:32 < imphasing_> Thijs: You could try hacking it out from something simpler, like ccos 15:33 < Thijs> it was much simpler.. it was just using 'dd' and patch_fw and some boot file 15:34 < imphasing_> Ah 15:34 < BleuLlama> okay, so what's the problem? 15:35 < Thijs> the problem is that when i dd and patch_fw, my ipod give me a ! mark, telling me there is something wrong with the fw, so i do something wrong 15:36 < Thijs> i guess i need the dd if=boot.bin of=/dev/sda2 skip=63 ??? size=???? count=??? 15:37 < BleuLlama> or perhaps you're not building the "boot.bin" properly? 15:37 * BleuLlama shrugs 15:37 < fxb> you could try to insert the binary with ipodpatcher 15:37 < Thijs> i tried 15:37 < Thijs> but it says it cant find the 'mini' mark in the image 15:42 < Thijs> have an idea ? 15:43 < BleuLlama> not i. i just use ipodlinux. i havent tried going barebones 15:45 < Thijs> ok 15:45 < Thijs> perhaps i should try that too 15:45 < Thijs> lol ever got this message from ipodpatcher ? 15:46 < Thijs> [INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive2 15:46 < Thijs> [INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes 15:46 < Thijs> [ERR] Bad boot sector signature 15:52 < fxb> which instructions did you follow? 16:14 < Thijs> mainly http://www.ipodlinux.org/Loader2 16:21 < Thijs> iam now restoring factory defaults 16:31 < fxb> ok, probably something got changed, so ipodpatcher can't find that. 16:33 < Thijs> yeah.. but ok.. all got messed up.. i got now factory reset ipod, so clean start 16:34 < Thijs> its just an ipod mini, so only 4gb lost 16:35 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@109.Red-88-1-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:41 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 16:44 < Thijs> :( 16:53 < imphasing_> ): 16:56 < Thijs> yeah.. its even getting worse...cant even install ipl on my clean ipod... it says it cant install the loader.. strange 16:57 -!- Kingstone [n=king@87.69.67.222] has joined #ipodlinux 17:26 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@109.Red-88-1-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:27 < Thijs> ahh progress 17:31 < rvvs89> Progress is good 17:31 < Thijs> yeah 17:32 < Thijs> after 4x factory reset my ipod.. *shame* 17:39 -!- Kingstone [n=king@87.69.67.222] has quit [] 17:48 < Thijs> is it known that the ipodlinux installer for windows is not properly installing the loader? 17:49 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@109.Red-88-1-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:02 -!- rage1 [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:23 -!- perror [n=fleury@mazurek.labri.fr] has quit ["I'll be back !"] 18:45 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host110-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- AriX_ [n=arix@c-76-99-119-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["Linkinus is updating..."] 19:15 -!- AriX_ [n=arix@c-76-99-119-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:57 -!- sebajosh [n=Josh@70-41-109-162.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:00 -!- imphasing_ [n=Alex@c-76-114-179-230.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:02 < Thijs> hmm quiet here 20:02 < courtc> rvvs89: are you planning to comment on that ticket any time soon? 20:05 -!- dirty_d2 [n=andrew@72.93.249.7] has joined #ipodlinux 20:05 < dirty_d2> hello 20:05 < dirty_d2> is there any software like an ipod emulator to test modules instead of having to put it on the ipod every time you need to run it? 20:06 < BleuLlama> no ipod emulator, but you can just build podzilla for the desktop 20:06 < dirty_d2> and plus i dont even have the ipod yet :) 20:06 < dirty_d2> so i can build podzilla on my computer and build the modules on my computer and then run them from podzilla? 20:07 < BleuLlama> that's the idea 20:07 < dirty_d2> excellent 20:07 < Thijs> and another happy person leaves the building 20:10 < Thijs> i think that cygwin is not very attractive for development for ipodlinux 20:11 < courtc> "That's because cygwin sucks." -C.Cavin 20:11 < Thijs> hehe 20:12 -!- kick52_ [n=kick52-s@91.108.198.72] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 < Thijs> everything went fine, till i needed to mount the ext2 partition 20:14 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 20:15 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 < dirty_d2> is there any documentation on writing modules for podzilla? 20:16 < BleuLlama> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat130900050045 20:16 < BleuLlama> oops. bad mouse. sorry 20:16 < BleuLlama> there should be 20:16 < Thijs> hehe. is guitar hero III out already 20:17 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Hello_World_Module <-- only slightly horrible documentation. 20:17 < BleuLlama> main page -> documentation -> podzilla module tutorial 20:17 < dirty_d2> ok thank you 20:18 < Thijs> damn knoppix! 20:19 < Thijs> i cant login into graphical mode as root user, but when i try to alter network settings, it gives me a SU error 20:19 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:19 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 20:28 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=fiftyfou@cpe-74-73-158-167.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:28 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.250.79] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:28 -!- kick52_ is now known as kick52 20:28 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=fiftyfou@cpe-74-73-158-167.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:29 < sebajosh> Thijs: You can't login to a GUI as root because root has no password by default when boot. Try going to console mode, using su, and then startx. 20:31 < Thijs> i've set a root password already, but ill try 20:32 < Thijs> sebajosh: seems to work :) 20:35 < Thijs> yes.. worked! thanks! 20:37 < sebajosh> You're welcome. 20:54 -!- Drgb_ [n=berserk@host216-88-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 20:59 < Thijs> sebajosh: also familliar with extending linux partitions ? 21:00 < dirty_d2> just a little confusion here, if podzilla was built with an arm cpu version of gcc how is it running on my computer? 21:01 < dirty_d2> or was it not.... 21:04 < Thijs> i think you dont need to use the arm cross compiler, but just gcc for x86 21:04 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host159-81-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:06 < dirty_d2> yea i guess the tutorial on the wiki said to download it just incase you were building on the ipod 21:06 < dirty_d2> didnt actually say that though 21:07 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host110-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:07 < BleuLlama> dirty_d2: when you build for desktop, it uses your local-architecture gcc 21:07 < dirty_d2> ok 21:07 < dirty_d2> well it works thats good 21:07 < BleuLlama> look through the makefile, and if you've got keen eyes, you can decypher it. 21:07 < dirty_d2> now i just gotta get a module built 21:08 < BleuLlama> (actually, don't. the makefile is pretty hairy) 21:08 < BleuLlama> heh 21:08 < dirty_d2> yea i noticed 21:08 < BleuLlama> heh 21:09 < Thijs> BleuLlama: do you have some experience in resizing ext3 partitions ? 21:09 < Thijs> ive made mine too small :( 21:11 < dirty_d2> is there anything preventing a usb keyboard driver from being written for an ipod? 21:12 < Thijs> dirty_d2: dont know 21:12 < dirty_d2> i wonder if the hardware automatically puts it into disk mode or something 21:12 < dirty_d2> when its plugged in 21:12 < dirty_d2> does it? 21:12 < BleuLlama> no. never had reason to change the size of the linux partition. 21:13 < dirty_d2> Thijs, just copy all the files on that partition to somewhere else 21:13 < BleuLlama> dirty_d2: yes, the lack of USB host driver 21:13 < dirty_d2> then delete that partition 21:13 < dirty_d2> and make a larger one 21:13 < dirty_d2> then copy then back 21:13 < Thijs> dirty_d2: i think that the ipod fw is writting only for slave mode, and no host mode usage of USB 21:13 < dirty_d2> oh 21:13 < Thijs> ive made my partition 2GB 21:14 < Thijs> and i need 30 mb more or so ( for the ARM toolchain ) :( 21:14 < dirty_d2> this is on an ipod? 21:14 < Thijs> dirty_d2: just speculation.. dont know for sure 21:14 < dirty_d2> no i mean the partition problem 21:14 < dirty_d2> its your ipod right 21:14 < Thijs> no, partition problem on my laptop 21:14 < dirty_d2> oh 21:15 < dirty_d2> yea you can just copy the files to another partition 21:15 < BleuLlama> just put the arm toolchain on the data partition 21:15 < dirty_d2> then delete the 2gb one 21:15 < dirty_d2> and make a new one 21:15 < BleuLlama> you're trying to build code on the ipod itself? 21:15 < Thijs> iam busy the whole evening just to get an enviroment to program my ipod 21:15 < Thijs> no, building on the laptop 21:16 < BleuLlama> oh. ah. ext partition on your lappy, not on the ipod. 21:16 < BleuLlama> misunderstood. 21:16 < BleuLlama> apologies 21:16 < Thijs> np 21:17 < Thijs> hmm i'd better kill all partitions and reinstall linux i guess 21:17 < Thijs> because when using 2 partitions, it will give errors later 21:17 < BleuLlama> why not just install it to a different partition? 21:17 < dirty_d2> what do you mean? 21:17 < Thijs> i guess the arm-toolchain likes to be installed in /usr/local? right 21:18 < BleuLlama> so change the installation scripts 21:18 < BleuLlama> :) 21:18 < dirty_d2> Thijs, is all the other free space taken up by windows or soemthing? 21:19 < Thijs> no hehe.. thats the point.. its 40gb hdd, with a 30gb partition for windows, 10 gb left 21:19 < Thijs> and i just made a partition 2gb 21:21 < dirty_d2> so 21:21 < Thijs> just made another one, now rebooting 21:21 < dirty_d2> you have 30gb for windows, 2 for linux and 8 free? 21:22 < Thijs> yeah something like that 21:22 < dirty_d2> you dont have to reboot 21:22 < Thijs> yeah its knoppix, installed on HD 21:23 < Thijs> but i couldnt resize partitions, so i tried to boot from live CD, so that the HDD wouldnt be mounted 21:23 < Thijs> but makes no difference 21:25 < Thijs> lol.. its freaking me out... now my wireless lan settings are lost, which i just set last time 21:26 < dirty_d2> lol 21:26 < Thijs> ah less worse then i thought 21:26 < Thijs> the settings were still there, but the card wasnt activated 21:28 < Thijs> but ok... what idiot tries to develop on a boot-cd linux installed on a HD, connected wireless only 21:32 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" sound borked again :("] 21:33 < Thijs> no.. this wont work.. 'No space left on device' 21:34 < sebajosh> Get Ubuntu. Or if you really want KDE, Kubuntu. They will let you resize Windows' NTFS partition. I'm in the process of installing Debian in a VM so I can copy over the deb's in the cache to my laptop when I get it so that I don't have to download it again(bandwidth limit). 21:35 < Thijs> yeah.. i guess so 21:35 < Thijs> fuck knoppix 21:35 < Thijs> afaik i also have some redhat9 disks left 21:36 < Thijs> but kubuntu.. also ok 21:37 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 21:37 < Thijs> downloading :) 21:38 < sebajosh> I have Xubuntu on my internal HDD and Kubuntu on my external USB. 21:38 < Thijs> lol.. it doesnt matter if it has graphical things or nice colors.. i just use console 21:39 < Thijs> the only things needed are:: wireless support, samba?, arm-gcc, and mounting ipod 21:41 < sebajosh> Ubuntu is extremely good at device support, especially wireless drivers. I can work at the console for a while, but I can't make a habit of it. Even with a 1600x1200 framebuffer, I need a GUI eventually. 21:41 < Thijs> but graphical makes config a bit easier of course, as iam no regular linux user :) 21:42 -!- bsaint [n=s@77-100-98-110.cable.ubr10.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 < sebajosh> Depends on what you are configuring. Printers, sound, yes. X11, GRUB, Apache, no. 21:44 < Thijs> and wireless lan? 21:44 < Thijs> knoppix gave me some walktrough setup 21:44 < Thijs> was very easy 21:45 < sebajosh> Ubuntu prefers auto-setup.;-) 21:45 < sebajosh> I think. 21:46 < Thijs> also good 21:46 < Thijs> argh.. i remember from early ipl dev 21:46 < Thijs> my laptop likes to go in standby mode 21:46 < Thijs> if not used for x minutes 21:46 < Thijs> and every time it went in standby and i woke it up, i lost my networkcard.. 21:46 < Thijs> and it didnt even came back 21:47 < Thijs> hard times :) 21:48 < sebajosh> I've never worked with power management, besides hibernate. My laptop will change that. 21:48 < Thijs> hm 14 mins left for ubuntu 21:49 < Thijs> i think its time for sleep 21:50 < sebajosh> How fast is your internet connection? It takes me an hour and a half to download a 700MB iso... 21:50 < Thijs> its now capped at 500kb/s 21:51 < sebajosh> Lucky. 128-192Kb/s for me. 21:52 < Thijs> hmmm... i dont bother anymore about high speeds.. yeah. its usefull when downloading dvd, but for normal use, 192 is also fine 21:52 < Thijs> we used to have 8mbit (1000kb/s) before, but that was also overkill 21:54 < Thijs> 500 is fine 21:56 < Thijs> argh... wheres the luck today 21:56 < Thijs> insufficient space for downloading the 700mb iso 21:58 < Thijs> hmm download again tomorrow 21:58 < Thijs> good night all! 21:59 < Thijs> maybe till tomorrow 21:59 -!- Thijs [n=thijs@cc849762-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:03 < dirty_d2> i wonder what kind of crazy game i can make here 22:03 < dirty_d2> how many mhz is in the nano? 22:04 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:08 < sebajosh> I think it's overclocked to 100MHz. I think a good idea for battery life would be to speed step the proc. 22:09 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:10 < dirty_d2> damn, pz api link on the wiki is broken 22:10 < dirty_d2> along with the ttk one 22:11 < dirty_d2> is it ok to just steal execution from podzilla in a module? 22:11 < dirty_d2> or are you supposed to do your drawing 22:11 < dirty_d2> then return 22:11 < dirty_d2> adn wait for a redraw event or soemthing? 22:16 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@109.Red-88-1-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:19 < sebajosh> I have a printout of the API's, but no PDF's. I'm not sure about the Podzilla events. BleuLlama or courtc might be able to answer that. 22:31 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@2-129.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:32 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 22:39 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 22:56 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.198.72] has quit ["night"] 23:20 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:20 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 23:30 < courtc> dirty_d2: global events need to be parsed, so thread mongering is not recommended. Why? 23:42 < dirty_d2> ok 23:43 < dirty_d2> well how do i let podzilla know when to redraw the window? 23:43 < dirty_d2> i see ev->wid->dirty = 1; 23:43 < dirty_d2> but thats only if i get an event 23:43 < dirty_d2> how can i make it redraw like every millisecond 23:45 < dirty_d2> well 23:45 < dirty_d2> i made a lucky guess 23:45 < dirty_d2> set a timer 23:46 < dirty_d2> static int loop(struct TWidget *blah) 23:46 < dirty_d2> blah->dirty = 1; 23:46 < dirty_d2> taht works 23:48 < BleuLlama> yep 23:49 < dirty_d2> i cant find any documentation on the different functions 23:49 < dirty_d2> whars the easiest way to draw a filled in circle? 23:50 < BleuLlama> there's API.tex documents in the source tree, or look at the .h files for now 23:50 < BleuLlama> fillellipse 23:50 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 23:50 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:51 < dirty_d2> ok 23:52 < dirty_d2> whats a .tex file supposed to be viewed with 23:52 < BleuLlama> look through the source to vortex, for example. there's lots of graphics calls in there. 23:52 < BleuLlama> it's latex, it can be converted to PDF or html or whatever 23:52 < dirty_d2> ok 23:52 < dirty_d2> i hate looking at other peoples code 23:52 < dirty_d2> lol 23:52 < BleuLlama> i think there's a makefile target using pdflatex to create it as pdf 23:53 < BleuLlama> then you're working on the wrong project. open source is 80% other people's code, 19% yours 23:56 < dirty_d2> eh ill deal with it 23:58 < courtc> 1% percent BS --- Log closed Fri Oct 26 00:00:00 2007