--- Log opened Tue Oct 23 00:00:04 2007 00:18 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 00:18 -!- CIA-38 [i=cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:35 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:44 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 01:03 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:03 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:03 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:04 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 01:33 -!- courtc [n=court@unaffiliated/courtc] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:55 -!- jamesnvc [n=user@76.67.61.183] has joined #iPodlinux 01:55 < jamesnvc> Hello, just a quick question to clarify something for me 01:56 < jamesnvc> Is the "2nd Gen" nano the brushed steel nano? 01:56 < jamesnvc> Or is it the Nano Video? 01:59 -!- jamesnvc [n=user@76.67.61.183] has left #ipodlinux ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 02:08 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:24 -!- MeTrOiD014|Kevin [n=kevinsil@CPE000f3d5d1571-CM00080d143c48.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- Gimp__ [n=malcolm@S010600c049ed94ef.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- Gimp_ [n=malcolm@growl/gimp] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:50 -!- Gimp__ is now known as Gimp_ 02:58 -!- imphasin1 [n=alex@pool-71-255-194-216.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:15 -!- imphasing [n=alex@pool-71-125-169-12.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:18 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:20 < mmc227> does anyone have any any expected updates on 6g classic -- to run ipodlinux 03:21 < BleuLlama> no 03:23 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:23 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:31 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:31 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:57 -!- MeTrOiD014|Kevin [n=kevinsil@CPE000f3d5d1571-CM00080d143c48.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 04:11 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #iPodLinux 04:12 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:12 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:02 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:02 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:15 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 05:21 -!- ionvas [n=ionvas@217.189.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:25 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:25 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:46 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 05:57 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:58 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:01 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:01 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:31 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 06:38 -!- Gekz is now known as Gekz[work] 06:51 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:51 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:57 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:57 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:57 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:57 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:19 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:30 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:38 -!- mmc227 [i=none@cpe-76-168-133-243.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 07:45 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@247-183.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 07:47 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-a1d92f65a9f8203b] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:55 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 08:12 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 08:28 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.241.64] has joined #ipodlinux 08:40 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:41 -!- Smith [n=akjsdksj@adsl-68-76-45-168.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:42 < Smith> is there anyone that could help me? 08:43 < Smith> im having a problem instaling iLaunch with iPodLinux 08:43 < Smith> on windows os 08:43 < Smith> iPod video 5.5 08:44 < Smith> ?? 08:44 -!- Smith [n=akjsdksj@adsl-68-76-45-168.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:46 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-70dfec8131fcda95] has joined #ipodlinux 09:21 < GodEater_> gotta love those patient people... 09:22 < rvvs89> Heh, yep... 09:32 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@247-183.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 09:32 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host213-82-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:34 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host231-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 09:34 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@247-183.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 09:34 -!- kick52_ [n=kick52-s@91.108.232.37] has joined #ipodlinux 09:34 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:43 -!- Peacepunk [n=jphf@203.144.85.127] has joined #ipodlinux 09:45 < Peacepunk> Hello Room 09:47 < Peacepunk> I am looking fir the right commandline to svn-build Loader2, since the wiki gives specifics for installer ir podzilla. I have a 5.5th gen 30G Video facing the "bad superblock" issue. 09:48 < Peacepunk> 5.5th gen 30G Video, Fedora7 with qt4 09:50 < Peacepunk> I checked out the svn repos already; it's all awaiting there on my HD. qt4-Qmake returns "parse errors" for the full contents of the folder. 09:50 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.241.64] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:50 -!- kick52_ is now known as kick52 09:57 < Peacepunk> && simply hitting "make" gets me 09:57 < Peacepunk> Compiling startup.s 09:57 < Peacepunk> make: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Command not found 09:58 < Peacepunk> make: *** [startup.o] Error 127 10:01 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 10:09 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 10:14 < rvvs89> Peacepunk: Installed the ARM uClinux toolchain? 10:14 < rvvs89> http://ipodlinux.org/Toolchain 10:18 < Peacepunk> rvvs: nope AFAIK, i believed I had a toolchain as QT ti be it... Where to find it? 10:19 < Peacepunk> ?By uClinux website I would imagine? 10:19 < rvvs89> Nope, see above link 10:19 < Peacepunk> oops sorry, heading for http://ipodlinux.org/Toolchain now... sorry again 10:20 < rvvs89> :D 10:21 < rvvs89> You want the 3.4.3 toolchain 10:23 < Peacepunk> I understood 3.4.3 indeed. Now, 29 Megs to grab from Cambodia (!) is around 1 hour... See you in a (long) bit... 10:25 < rvvs89> Heh, enjoy 10:25 < Peacepunk> Will it be stright "make" or should I ruin teh qt4-qmake beforehand? (instructions varies between wiki/installer2 && wiki/podzilla2) 10:25 < Peacepunk> typos... sorry... 10:26 < Peacepunk> read "straight" and "run" not "ruin" for sure :) 10:27 -!- Gekz[work] is now known as Gekz 10:28 < rvvs89> Well, assuming you've updated your PATH according to the Toolchain article, it should work fine if you just run "make" 10:30 < Peacepunk> Thanks. Heading up for the PATH thingy then now... keeps me busy... 10:36 < Peacepunk> 5.30pm here, time for all students to hit the cybercafes in town... bandwitdh crawling to a halt... I'll wait, and try on my own later on. Bye & thanks again rvv89. 10:38 < rvvs89> No probs peacepunk 10:38 < rvvs89> tis 6:40pm here now :P 10:39 < rvvs89> I'll probably be on just about all of tonight if you need some more help 10:39 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@34.136-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ipodlinux 10:43 < Gekz> hows this ipod touch thing 10:43 < Gekz> is it encrypted too? 10:56 < Peacepunk> 6.40 ? Where are YOU ? I though I'd be the only one that far in timezones... Thnaks for "tonigh", I could. 10:57 < rvvs89> Western Australia :P 10:57 < rvvs89> A believe Gekz is an aussie too? 10:58 < Gekz> I are an Aussie. 10:58 < Gekz> Sydneh. 11:00 < Peacepunk> OK. More ipodlinuxconversationnaly: You heard about this 5.5th gen BAD FAT Superblock thing @ boottime ? 11:01 < rvvs89> No, is it some kernel panic error message? 11:03 < Peacepunk> Xhen you boot the thing, a warning about "bad FAT superblock" appears, and then you are on the blue screen with only Apple/Disk/Sleep, not even rockbox. 11:03 < rvvs89> Ah, right, actually I think I responded to one of your posts in the forum under the name Rufus 11:05 < rvvs89> All I can suggest is that you reformat your FAT partition with mformat as described here: http://ipodlinux.org/5.5G#Format_the_Partitions_.28WinPods_only.29 11:06 < Peacepunk> It is also - Yep, I did my homework & used only mformat, self compiled, because I use rockbox, not apple. 11:07 < rvvs89> Ah, I see... 11:08 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@34.136-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:08 < Peacepunk> IRC is kinda last resort for short questions to me... I've been three days on the issue, tried non-partition method, standard method, standard-5.5g special method... My ipodlinux bookmark folder is getting looong... 11:10 < Gekz> my ipod loader bitches at me about the fat32 partition 11:10 < Gekz> 5 second error; partition not valid 11:10 < Gekz> OH WAIT, I FOUNDZ TEH FREAKING EXT3 11:10 < Gekz> ALL IZ WElL 11:12 < Peacepunk> For my own education: Loader2 ? what install method, what OS source machine, what kind of 'Pod ? 11:13 < rvvs89> Peacepunk: All I can suggest is that you try commenting out the check that causes that error in the Loader2 source code, then just hope that it works 11:13 < rvvs89> Apparently something is weird with your MBR 11:13 < rvvs89> (Which is non-standard on iPods apparently) 11:14 < Peacepunk> Could be, sure. Most of web info on the issue reports issue solved after just restoring to apple-original & doing it all over agin... which I did 3 times already. 11:15 < Peacepunk> Now, to compile the bootloader2, I'll need this ttolchain & I'd need it rightly set-up, is it ? 11:15 < rvvs89> That's it 11:15 < rvvs89> If you've done the path step then you just need to run the script as root 11:16 < Peacepunk> <> I lack some self-confidence when its about compiling stuff that doesn't go along just "./configure - make -make install". 11:17 -!- imphasing [n=alex@pool-71-246-70-248.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:17 < rvvs89> Heh, well, it is more complex when you're compiling for another platform on a host with different architecture 11:18 < Peacepunk> Path stuff: PATH="${PREFIX}/bin:$PATH"; export PATH that's just vogon poetry to me. 11:20 < Peacepunk> "Commenting out trhe check" is just so nice an idea that @ least I should have alook @ the source. Well, lot's more of Vogon Poetry over there I assume. 11:20 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-70dfec8131fcda95] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:22 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 11:22 < rvvs89> The file is ipodlinux/apps/ipod/ipodloader2/fat32.c, line 418-422 11:24 < Peacepunk> rvv89: you had the file at hand ? you mean 'kill' lines 418-422 ? 11:24 < rvvs89> Put // before every line 11:25 < rvvs89> If you're using Kate you can select them and press ^D 11:25 < Peacepunk> Good you say so, I would have put ## 'cause that's all my experience in hacking ! 11:26 < rvvs89> :D 11:28 < Peacepunk> I am shaking a bit about the toolchain. YUM (fedora7) offers several such arm-crosscompiler thingies. Any chance I get around with that ? 11:29 < rvvs89> Maybe, but I won't be able to help you with those at all 11:30 < rvvs89> The arm-uclinux-elf toolchain also includes some uClinux specific things that you will not find in that package 11:30 < Peacepunk> got this one loud & clear, OK. And, unfortunately, it makes sense... 11:33 -!- imphasin1 [n=alex@pool-71-255-194-216.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:36 < Peacepunk> arm-uclinux: Got it, at last. 6.30 here, tile for me to throw the kids in a bath & fix them something ingestible. See you in 2 hours, if you are still around, for a great Compile-Yourself 'First Timer' Party :) 11:36 < Peacepunk> Bye Australia. 11:37 < rvvs89> Laters :P 11:37 -!- Peacepunk [n=jphf@203.144.85.127] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 11:49 -!- animeloe [n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 12:03 -!- perror [n=fleury@mazurek.labri.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 12:23 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-c44740699ded4973] has joined #ipodlinux 12:27 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@202.124.69.117] has joined #ipodlinux 12:27 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@202.124.69.117] has quit [Client Quit] 12:53 -!- bsaint [n=s@77-100-98-110.cable.ubr10.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 12:53 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:53 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 12:56 < bsaint> Can anyone confirm that, when installing iPodLinux on the Nano 1st gen, the root filesystem is JFFS2 and based on the Flash memory storage device? 13:02 < Gekz> its ext3. 13:02 < Gekz> or 2. 13:03 < Gekz> and where else would ther data be stored? 13:10 < bsaint> yeah, guess that bit was a stupid question. i misread a document and thought that each of the two partitions that come as deafult on the ipod were on different devices 13:14 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:40 -!- Peacepunk [n=jphf@203.144.85.127] has joined #ipodlinux 13:41 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:43 -!- Drgb_ [n=berserk@host31-85-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 13:46 < Peacepunk> Hi again - Fedora7, QT4, kernel 2.6.22, will go for toolchain instal + self-compile of SVN Loader2 in order to try to dodge the "Bad FAT superblock" issue on my 5.5th gen 30G vIdeo. 13:54 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host231-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:59 < Peacepunk> Precompiled toolchain 3.4.3 .sh went ok 14:07 < Peacepunk> hitting export PATH issue: 14:07 < Peacepunk> make: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Command not found 14:07 < Peacepunk> && 14:08 < Peacepunk> the executable is lawfully in /usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2/bin ...I'll start googling... 14:14 < rvvs89> Peacepunk: Type echo $PATH and paste it here 14:14 < Peacepunk> sorted. I'll stop making noise (all by myself as it seems) & ask later if things go hairy again. 14:15 < rvvs89> Ah ok, cool 14:15 < Peacepunk> found this on 5g wiki: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2/bin/ 14:16 < Peacepunk> now last line says after "make" : Converting loader.elf to binary - looking fo rthe next step, I'll be back 14:20 < rvvs89> You probably have a loader.bin in your build dir, find and use ipodpatcher to add it to your firmware partition 14:22 < Peacepunk> On my way ! loader.bin dutyfully found in my svn-loader2 folder, unedited @ the moment, i'll try your // hack if this up-to-date vesrion fails. 14:25 < rvvs89> Good luck 14:33 < Peacepunk> bootpartition backed up from fresh & empty apple status, .rockbox folder & exec added, firmware loaded, SUCCESS in this department. Thanks 14:33 < rvvs89> So it loads? :D 14:35 < Peacepunk> I'd say: it does not display the warning, which is different; that's why I copied .rockbox on it since I zero-ed the pod and did not yet re-installed Linux, which involvre further formatting... 14:37 < Peacepunk> (needed a way to see it starting, and dispalying at leats one other choice from Apple/disk/sleep - But Rockbox build r15219 is faulty, so firts I'll get a good one to see if it's Rockbox or loader2 that doesn't start RB @ the moment, then I'll go for the rest... 14:37 < Peacepunk> What's the issue with the non-partitionning method from your point of view ? 14:39 < rvvs89> It's easier for Windows noobs and people who don't have the space to back up data on their iPods, I just recommend the official method because it's standard. 14:39 < rvvs89> To be honest, I've never had any trouble with the instructions on the 5.5G page, and I have the same model iPod as you 14:41 < Peacepunk> I wanted a standard kernel, and doesn't suffer issue regarding ext2/3 management. Astonishing how much Win people want to hack their pod to linux without seeing the need to hack their own boxes first :) 14:42 < Peacepunk> taht's a shame, but i noticed that while querying info. Did you start off with a SVN build right away ? 14:45 < Peacepunk> As of now, relevant info seems to be that you need to have an iTune-freshened (restored) iPod to get away with it without fuss. Win formatter won't do, gparted, same, and maybe mtools & mkdosfs. 14:46 < Peacepunk> I'll soon enough will discover if they put a mess into it, sinec I am going all over again. 14:47 < Peacepunk> I had no luck in launching ipodlinux from the rockbox bootloader btw, it's supposed to handle it but did not in my case. 14:48 -!- imphasing_ [n=Alex@c-76-114-179-230.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:56 < rvvs89> Do you have access to iTunes? 15:01 -!- AriX_ [n=arix@c-76-99-119-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:02 < DataGhost> since when does the rockbox bootloader load linux? 15:04 < Peacepunk> rvvs89 I HAD to, unfortunately. Downloaded to the kids computer... 15:04 < BHSPitMonkey> DataGhost, since rockbox was ported to the iPod. 15:04 < DataGhost> oh. I thought it only did rockbox 15:05 < DataGhost> ah well 15:05 < Peacepunk> DataGhost: advertised on their website, hadn't had luck tough, will try to find the reference but I think it's merely linked to the late version of ipodpatcher 15:05 < BHSPitMonkey> my guess is Peacepunk had trouble with the key combinations... 15:05 < BHSPitMonkey> they're near impossible to work 15:05 < BHSPitMonkey> (for rockbox's bootloader, that is) 15:05 < Peacepunk> BHSPitMonkey: ??? 15:06 < Peacepunk> hit paly at tiny-apple-boot time... 15:06 < Peacepunk> PLAY i mean 15:06 < BHSPitMonkey> Peacepunk, back when I used rockbox's loader, I'd get the choice I wanted about 1 time out of 10 15:06 < BHSPitMonkey> there was a specific instant you had to start pressing down at 15:07 < Peacepunk> I see; as it doesnot display a nice choice as ipodlinux, you got to be lucky, that's what you mean ? 15:07 < BHSPitMonkey> after the apple displayed, but before the bootloader did 15:07 < Peacepunk> ... sigh... 15:07 < BHSPitMonkey> Peacepunk, you had to learn the timing. 15:07 < BHSPitMonkey> I don't know if it's changed, but I don't think it has. 15:07 < BHSPitMonkey> Why not use iPodLoader2? 15:08 < Peacepunk> Well, at least I have the ipodloader without badblock warning right now, I feel like pushing a bit more in that direction indeed 15:15 < Peacepunk> rvvs89: when I was talking about a "refreshed" 'pod, it was after an iTune restoration. So I do. 15:35 -!- ejb_ [n=ejb@242-150.suscom-maine.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:52 -!- ejb [n=ejb@242-150.suscom-maine.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:59 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:24 -!- Drgb_ is now known as Drgb 16:26 -!- Bertrix [n=Bertrix@d54C46B14.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 16:26 < Bertrix> Hello 16:27 < Bertrix> I have an iPod nano, I know recording via the line-out isn't going to work(except some stories cranking very high level signals in the port, possibly working due to crosstalk) 16:27 < Bertrix> but will it record via the line-in channel on the dock connector 16:43 < BleuLlama> huh? recording on Nano isn't supported 16:45 < Bertrix> my bad sorry 16:45 -!- Bertrix [n=Bertrix@d54C46B14.access.telenet.be] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 16:53 -!- Fenon is now known as _Hetfield 17:05 -!- Drgb_ [n=berserk@host159-81-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 17:08 -!- perror [n=fleury@mazurek.labri.fr] has quit ["I'll be back !"] 17:13 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host31-85-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:16 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 17:31 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 17:32 -!- kevipapo1 [n=chatzill@adsl-75-6-236-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 < kevipapo1> anybody here? 17:33 < kevipapo1> hello? 17:35 < kevipapo1> no one? 17:35 < kevipapo1> I'm trying to figure out how to manually install iPL on a 5g iPod 17:37 -!- kevipapo1 is now known as kevipapo 17:37 -!- kevipapo is now known as kevipapo1 17:38 < kevipapo1> testing 17:39 < HardDisk_WP> kevipapo1, there once was some text on wiki 17:39 < kevipapo1> ? 17:40 < kevipapo1> I searched the wiki 17:40 < kevipapo1> All I could find was the 5.5g manual install, that's as close as I got 17:41 < kevipapo1> I tied it, but Loader2 wouldn't load loader.cfg 17:41 < kevipapo1> *tried 17:43 < HardDisk_WP> hm 17:43 < HardDisk_WP> mine loaded, but that's ages ago 17:44 -!- Drgb_ [n=berserk@host159-81-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:44 -!- oslo is now known as oslo_pasl 17:46 < kevipapo1> Well, I'll just use kainjow's installer 17:46 < kevipapo1> That's as close to manual as I'm getting 17:51 < Peacepunk> there si a specific 5th gen page in the wiki, wit a moment... 17:51 < Peacepunk> http://ipodlinux.org/5g - that simple (tpo find, not to implemnt I bet 17:53 < Peacepunk> it helped me setting up the toolchain to SVN build the bootloader2 for my 5.5th gen 30G - but this only makes sense if you are on a linux box. 18:01 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host159-81-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 18:05 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:06 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 18:06 -!- RvX [n=chatzill@80.50.28.38] has joined #ipodlinux 18:08 -!- kevipapo1 [n=chatzill@adsl-75-6-236-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:19 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:32 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:33 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:43 -!- bsaint [n=s@77-100-98-110.cable.ubr10.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 18:45 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@126.Red-83-61-225.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:46 -!- Peacepunk [n=jphf@203.144.85.127] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 19:07 -!- ejb_ [n=ejb@242-150.suscom-maine.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:12 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:17 -!- RvX [n=chatzill@80.50.28.38] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/0000000000]"] 19:17 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 -!- kevipapo1 [n=chatzill@adsl-75-6-236-199.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < kevipapo1> hey, I'm back, with some more questions 19:19 < kevipapo1> I have a week of nothing to do, and I might as well learn some compiling stuff 19:19 < kevipapo1> I have pz.c and toolchain 4.0.0 19:20 < kevipapo1> I'm wondering exactly how to compile podzilla 19:20 < kevipapo1> It's pretty obvious that the make command in the 4.0.0 toolchain won't let me run IPOD=1 19:21 < kevipapo1> so, if someone could just run me through it, I'd appreciate it a lot 19:25 -!- bholland [n=bholland@S010600195b517720.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 < kevipapo1> anyone? 19:26 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla 19:27 < kevipapo1> Yes, but, like I said, the make command in the 3.4.3 toolchain doesn't have the IPOD=1 option, does it? 19:29 < kevipapo1> Sorry if I'm sounding rude 19:29 < BleuLlama> if you follow that, you can build podzilla. 19:29 < BleuLlama> read up on what make is and how it works 19:29 < kevipapo1> Well, I'll try from a to z and see what happens 19:30 < kevipapo1> Out of curiosity, what does fink do? 19:32 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 19:36 < BleuLlama> what does google tell you? 19:37 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@247-183.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 19:39 -!- ejb [n=ejb@242-150.suscom-maine.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@247-183.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 < kevipapo1> I have the FinkCommander disk image mounted, and there's an app in it, so I'm guessing I drag that to Applications. It doesn't tell me anything about installing it, not even in the README 20:00 -!- oslo_pasl is now known as oslo 20:12 -!- JavaMan22 [n=Yafei@c-69-249-148-177.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:13 < JavaMan22> the missing files for the toolchain is corrupted in http://ipodlinux.org/Easy_Programming_Tutorial 20:13 < JavaMan22> "However, the toolchain for cygwin misses several important files. Download these from here (http://filexoom.com/files/4931/C%20programs/toolchain%20files.zip) or here. (http://rapidsharing.com/download.php?id=2AAA71E0)" 20:13 < JavaMan22> anyone have the missing files ? 20:17 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:17 < kevipapo1> When I try to SVN into any of the sources I get an error: "SSL is not supported" 20:18 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 20:18 < kevipapo1> Any ideas? 20:18 < JavaMan22> kevipapo1 know where i can get the missinf files? 20:18 < kevipapo1> no clue 20:19 < JavaMan22> well wat did you do after you got arm toolchain 20:23 < kevipapo1> I 20:23 < kevipapo1> I installed the flex binary 20:23 < JavaMan22> me too 20:23 < JavaMan22> then wat 20:23 < JavaMan22> lol i actually just installed flex 20:24 < JavaMan22> i can compile hotdog but not ttk 20:25 < JavaMan22> can you compile ttk? 20:25 < kevipapo1> did SVN give you an error about SSL? 20:26 < JavaMan22> no 20:26 < kevipapo1> What's in your ipl folder? 20:27 < JavaMan22> you mean home folder? 20:28 < kevipapo1> Well, src/ipl 20:28 < kevipapo1> What's in there 20:28 < JavaMan22> i dont have that.. 20:28 < kevipapo1> so then where's your source for hotdog? 20:28 < JavaMan22> when you do svn co 20:28 < JavaMan22> you should be calling it in your home folder 20:28 < JavaMan22> it should make a folder for hotdog 20:28 < JavaMan22> and ttk 20:28 < JavaMan22> and podzilla 20:29 < kevipapo1> So what command do I run exactly? 20:29 < BleuLlama> kevipapo1: it's on that wiki page i pointed you to a couple of hours ago 20:29 < JavaMan22> svn co https://ipodlinux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ipodlinux/libs/hotdog 20:29 < kevipapo1> I know, but the svn command gives me an SSL error 20:29 < BleuLlama> if you had followed those directions, you'd have TTK, podzilla2, hotdog all checked out 20:30 < JavaMan22> maybe ssl is something you didnt install yet 20:30 < kevipapo1> Why is the svn command giving me an SSL error 20:30 < JavaMan22> from cygwin 20:30 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°"] 20:30 < kevipapo1> It says "SSL is not supported" 20:30 < JavaMan22> bluellama how do i make ttk know where sdl is? 20:30 < BleuLlama> maybe you should reinstall subversion 20:30 < kevipapo1> I'll try 20:30 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: the wiki page shows how to check out ttk and build it. 20:31 < BleuLlama> sdl should be installed beforehand on your system 20:31 < JavaMan22> ya i skipped that part lol 20:31 < JavaMan22> bleullama is the arm download in building podzilla better than the one listed in easy programming tutorial? 20:32 < JavaMan22> wat im trying to say is the one in building podzilla complete 20:32 < kevipapo1> I think I need to install the svn-client-ssl package 20:32 < kevipapo1> I'm doing that right now 20:33 < kevipapo1> Also, when I run the command svn it says command doesn't exist 20:33 < BleuLlama> the easy programming tutorial is nothing i';ve heard of. that's surely not the procedure for installation that we endorse 20:33 < kevipapo1> So I have to go to a special directory 20:33 < kevipapo1> to run the svn command 20:33 < BleuLlama> kevipapo1: then you need to install svn properly, and add it to your path 20:33 < kevipapo1> I installed the package 20:33 < kevipapo1> Do I need to install the binary? 20:33 < BleuLlama> and add it to your path 20:33 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:34 < kevipapo1> How? 20:34 < BleuLlama> please, read the responses that we give you, if you ask a question 20:34 < BleuLlama> depends on your shell, i'm not going to walk you through that. 20:34 < JavaMan22>       SDL_image-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm 20:34 < JavaMan22>       SDL_image-devel-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm 20:34 < JavaMan22> which one bleullama? 20:34 < BleuLlama> you should know how to do that on your own before you even attempt to build anything. 20:35 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: i dunno. i don't use rpms. try both. read documentation and figure it out 20:35 < kevipapo1> This is the first time I've ever built anything 20:35 < kevipapo1> I'm just following the instructions like a n00b 20:35 < kevipapo1> :) 20:36 < JavaMan22> this is my second time 20:36 < JavaMan22> on a different computer 20:37 < JavaMan22> bleullama if you dont use rpm then wat do you use 20:38 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 < BleuLlama> what* 20:40 < BleuLlama> i installed via darwinports 20:40 < JavaMan22> ... 20:40 < BleuLlama> although, you could build from source 20:40 < JavaMan22> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_SDL yaya 20:41 < JavaMan22> hmm wat the 20:41 < JavaMan22> i just compiled ttk 20:41 < JavaMan22> for the ipod only and it worked? 20:41 < JavaMan22> doesnt the ipod also need sdl too? 20:41 < JavaMan22> this is what i typed to make ttk: make -s NOMWIN=1 NOX11=1 20:42 < kevipapo1> Urgh... 20:42 < kevipapo1> How do you add it to your path? 20:43 < kevipapo1> errr...my path 20:43 < JavaMan22> wahts this i need perl now 20:43 < kevipapo1> JavaMan22: do you know how to add svn to your pah? 20:43 < JavaMan22> it should be already 20:44 < kevipapo1> Well, it still can;t find the command 20:44 < kevipapo1> any ideas? 20:44 < BleuLlama> to build ttk, i usually do: make NOHDOG=1 20:44 < BleuLlama> but that's just me 20:44 -!- imphasing_ [n=Alex@c-76-114-179-230.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:45 < JavaMan22> thats because you didnt install svn 20:45 < kevipapo1> However, surprisingly enough, when I run "info svn" it gives me all the info as it normally would 20:45 < kevipapo1> odd 20:45 < BleuLlama> i'm busy here, so i can't teach you how to use your command shell 20:45 < JavaMan22> i had trouble with the installer too 20:45 < kevipapo1> BleuLlama: that's ok 20:45 < JavaMan22> if it says command not found then you havent installed it 20:45 < kevipapo1> I'll probably find out the problem on my own 20:45 < JavaMan22> yay i have ttk and hotdog now 20:45 < kevipapo1> JavaMan22: I used FinkCommander to install the package and the binary 20:46 < JavaMan22> dont 20:46 < JavaMan22> o 20:46 < JavaMan22> for mac 20:46 < kevipapo1> ya 20:46 < JavaMan22> now i have no idea 20:46 < kevipapo1> macman 20:46 < kevipapo1> aww 20:46 < kevipapo1> I'm using the bash shell if that helps 20:46 < JavaMan22> does sdl come with the svn ? 20:47 < JavaMan22> or the toolchain? 20:47 < kevipapo1> Dunno 20:47 < JavaMan22> because its weird that i didnt even touch anything with sdl and ttk compiled for ipod 20:47 < kevipapo1> Well, let me see... 20:47 < kevipapo1> I don't have sdl installed 20:48 < kevipapo1> Should I install it, as well as sdl-image? 20:48 < JavaMan22> dont 20:48 < JavaMan22> because i didnt 20:48 < kevipapo1> Cuz it said it preferres libsdl and libsdl-image on mac 20:48 < JavaMan22> and it works fine 20:48 < kevipapo1> And I already had those 20:48 < kevipapo1> Well, if svn won't work is there another way to download the source for hotdog through my browser? 20:49 < JavaMan22> ya 20:49 < kevipapo1> how? 20:49 < kevipapo1> if you know 20:49 < JavaMan22> https://ipodlinux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ipodlinux/libs/hotdog/ 20:49 < BleuLlama> just fix svn on your system, otherwise you're downloading each individual file 20:49 < JavaMan22> lol 20:49 < kevipapo1> I thought that might be the case 20:49 < kevipapo1> where do terminal commands usually come from? 20:49 < BleuLlama> you know what's wrong. you have google. if you can't figure it out from there, building ipl isn't for you 20:50 < kevipapo1> I think I might have it 20:50 < kevipapo1> *BleuLlama sighs* 20:50 < JavaMan22> after i finish compiling i want to start porting the new gpsp 20:50 < JavaMan22> after looking at what zaphod did 20:51 < JavaMan22> holy cow is there lots of perl files to download 20:52 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Success] 20:52 < JavaMan22> hmm 20:52 < JavaMan22> ttk comes with sdl 20:53 < JavaMan22> its under ttk/libs/sdl 20:53 < JavaMan22> i wonder why i couldnt compile for desktop then 20:53 < BleuLlama> it comes with the ipod binary/build 20:54 < BleuLlama> you still need libsdl and libsdl_image installed on your desktop if you want to do desktop builds of podzilla 20:54 < JavaMan22> o maybe thats why 20:54 < kevipapo1> YES, it's fixed! 20:54 < JavaMan22> yay 20:54 < JavaMan22> what did you do 20:54 < kevipapo1> Just made a copy of svn and put it in bin 20:54 < JavaMan22> nice work 20:54 < kevipapo1> I guess I'm not so stupid after all 20:55 < BleuLlama> not the best solution, but that'll work 20:55 < kevipapo1> Well, I tried to make an alias, but it wouldn't allow me to 20:55 < BleuLlama> an alias? okay. 20:56 < kevipapo1> a symlink, if you will 20:56 < BleuLlama> i know what an alias is 20:56 < BleuLlama> that's an odd solution too. 20:56 < kevipapo1> oh, sorry 20:56 < BleuLlama> but whatever. if it works 20:56 < kevipapo1> Why? 20:56 < kevipapo1> Ok 20:56 < BleuLlama> because the correct thing to do is just add its installed location to your path 20:56 < BleuLlama> which you're going to have to do for the toolchain anyway. 20:57 < JavaMan22> ... 20:57 < JavaMan22> ok good 20:57 < JavaMan22> for a second i thought it was compiling ttk for desktop 20:57 < BleuLlama> or perhaps you already have for the toolchain, if you followed the directions on the wiki 20:57 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: the default parameters for building TTK should build it for ipod and desktop both 20:58 * BleuLlama afk - work 20:59 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has joined #ipodlinux 20:59 < JavaMan22> ok so far podzilla is building... 21:00 < JavaMan22> yay past the core 21:00 < kevipapo1> It's till telling me SSL isn't supported 21:00 < kevipapo1> Maybe it has to do with the fact that it's an https 21:00 < JavaMan22> drag the ssl into the bin :d 21:01 < JavaMan22> mandelpod has few warnings tho 21:01 < JavaMan22> its still looking good :D D: :D :D 21:01 < kevipapo1> I don't have an ssl binary 21:01 < kevipapo1> hmm... 21:01 < JavaMan22> PTHREADSTUBS 21:01 < JavaMan22> SLEEP 21:01 < JavaMan22> TERmINAL 21:02 < JavaMan22> TI DIAL 21:02 < JavaMan22> TI KEYPAD 21:02 < JavaMan22> TIPTEXT 21:02 < BleuLlama> stop. 21:02 < JavaMan22> ok 21:02 < JavaMan22> bleullama i didnt see iconui why? 21:02 < JavaMan22> derpapst said it came with the svn 21:02 < BleuLlama> because it's not in the core distribution. 21:03 < BleuLlama> he was wrong. 21:03 < JavaMan22> k 21:03 < BleuLlama> grab the source from the wiki 21:03 < JavaMan22> omg 21:03 < JavaMan22> i got one error 21:03 < JavaMan22> after all of that 21:03 < JavaMan22> lintl is that a program? 21:04 < JavaMan22> i think it might be one of the missing files... 21:06 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 21:12 < JavaMan22> "/usr/local/arm-uclinux-elf-tools/lib/gcc/arm-uclinux-elf/3.4.3/../../../../arm-u 21:12 < JavaMan22> clinux-elf/bin/ld.real: cannot find -lintl 21:12 < JavaMan22> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 21:12 < JavaMan22> make: *** [all] Error 1 21:12 < JavaMan22> ive been searching i cant find where to get lintl 21:14 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Client Quit] 21:14 < kevipapo1> I'm installing the svn-client-ssl package 21:14 < kevipapo1> Do you think that'll fix the SSL problem? 21:14 < JavaMan22> probably 21:15 < kevipapo1> Let's hope so 21:15 < kevipapo1> I had to redownload from a different mirror 21:15 < kevipapo1> And how bout you, everything working? 21:15 < JavaMan22> look up lol 21:16 < kevipapo1> lintl 21:16 < JavaMan22> i found this guy who has similar prob in forums but nobody answered him 21:17 < kevipapo1> And I have to redownload from another mirror 21:17 < kevipapo1> sigh... 21:17 < JavaMan22> nvm i found something 21:18 < JavaMan22> Libintl.zip 21:20 -!- ionvas [n=ionvas@217.189.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 21:20 < JavaMan22> linking podzilla... 21:20 < kevipapo1> The download is done, I think 21:21 < JavaMan22> woo 21:21 < kevipapo1> but now it's installing 21:21 * JavaMan22 compiled hotdog, ttk, and podzilla2/modules in 2 hours!! 21:21 < kevipapo1> no, it's still downloading 21:22 < JavaMan22> if you want the new builds ask me 21:22 < JavaMan22> i can upload it 21:23 < kevipapo1> idk where they'd go 21:23 < kevipapo1> Oh, podzilla2 you mean 21:23 < kevipapo1> what revision do you have? 21:24 < kevipapo1> I'm downloading each file seperately, this is crazy 21:24 < JavaMan22> the latest 21:25 < kevipapo1> I guess, if you don't mind 21:25 < kevipapo1> But don't just yet 21:26 < JavaMan22> well im still trying to figure out how to make install 21:26 < JavaMan22> actually i just figured out how to 21:26 < JavaMan22> compiling is fun lol 21:26 < JavaMan22> i think it will get old tho 21:26 < JavaMan22> its probably because i failed so many times 21:27 < JavaMan22> IT IS DONE 21:29 < JavaMan22> now also getting the fonts and schemes 21:34 -!- JavaMan22 [n=Yafei@c-69-249-148-177.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:52 -!- animeloe [n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe] has joined #ipodlinux 22:04 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@126.Red-83-61-225.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:16 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has joined #ipodlinux 22:47 -!- Luke [n=Luke@74-132-228-30.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit ["brb"] 22:49 -!- rager [n=rager@DNab42397a.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@247-183.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:10 -!- rage1 [n=rager@DNab42397a.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 23:11 -!- rager [n=rager@DNab42397a.Stanford.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:18 -!- Gekkko [i=gekko@blocked.all.with.iptables.us] has joined #ipodlinux 23:25 -!- Gekz [i=gekko@blocked.all.with.iptables.us] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:26 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-c44740699ded4973] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:28 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 23:30 -!- skittle7 [i=5ac0a88c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-2f42832203218bdf] has joined #ipodlinux 23:31 -!- kick52 [n=kick52-s@91.108.232.37] has quit ["night"] --- Log closed Wed Oct 24 00:00:00 2007