--- Log opened Sun Oct 07 00:00:12 2007 00:00 < BleuLlama> ]the official tux in SVG is simple to find 00:00 < BleuLlama> so that's good 00:03 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@nor75-3-82-226-37-131.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:08 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@117.102.134.135] has joined #ipodlinux 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> if you can't track down the ipl tux by tomorrow evening, I'll be able to hook you up 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> you should be able to though 00:11 < BHSPitLappy> oh, it's in CVS under website 00:11 < BHSPitLappy> look there 00:13 -!- ionvas [n=ionvas@217.189.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:17 < BleuLlama> i see some of the images in there, but not vector 00:23 < BleuLlama> actually, what i really want is a tux logo of some type in a 32x32 size 00:26 < n1mda> does someone know why I have this problem?: I created my_sw.bin with apple_os.bin and loader.bin... but when I transfer it to my ipod, only Apple OS, Diskmode and Sleep shows up as available options at boot 00:27 < n1mda> is it because I havn't installed linux on my partition? 00:27 < n1mda> even though I have a kernel, and a shell... but no other stuff 00:31 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Success] 00:58 < n1mda> anyone? 01:40 < BleuLlama> did you make an entry for it in your loader.conf file? 01:43 < BleuLlama> think i'm going to pose this to the forum community. i'm sure someone there will love to make the images for us. ;) 01:43 * BleuLlama posts 01:49 < n1mda> there is no loader.conf ? 01:54 < n1mda> time to go :) drop in later :) <3 01:54 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@117.102.134.135] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:06 -!- Flygisoft [n=sirix@84-217-66-254.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit ["- nbs-irc 2.32 - www.nbs-irc.net -"] 02:17 -!- motorhead_ [n=Scorpion@122.164.224.215] has joined #ipodlinux 02:32 -!- termin8or123 [n=fb51dann@adsl-75-50-57-162.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:32 < termin8or123> hey 02:42 -!- termin8or123 [n=fb51dann@adsl-75-50-57-162.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 02:46 < courtc> BleuLlama: http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/tux.png <- 16x16 02:47 < courtc> BleuLlama: http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/ipodlinux.svg <- vector 03:04 < courtc> BleuLlama: http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/tux32.png <- 32x32 03:05 < BleuLlama> that really looks nice 03:07 < courtc> tux48.png avail too. 03:08 < BleuLlama> how about 2bit gray, and 1 bit 03:08 < courtc> what size? 03:08 < BleuLlama> 16x16 03:09 < BleuLlama> 32x32 03:12 < courtc> 2bit gray == 4bit? 03:12 < courtc> or just 2 bit? 03:13 < BleuLlama> 2 bit gray = 4 color- black, white, lt gray. dkgray 03:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:13 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 03:14 -!- motorhead_ [n=Scorpion@122.164.224.215] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:15 < courtc> regular 32bit png? 03:16 < BleuLlama> sure 03:16 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/tux32-4bit.png 03:17 < BleuLlama> okay. 1 bit version? 03:18 < courtc> as in black/white? 03:18 < courtc> or 1 bit gray? 03:19 < BleuLlama> black and white, not dithered 03:24 < courtc> ugh.. not going very well, I'll have to hand do this one. :p 03:27 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:28 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/tux32-mono.png 03:34 < courtc> BleuLlama: how's that, ok or crappy? 03:35 < BleuLlama> a bit thin 03:36 < courtc> thin? 03:36 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2272 /apps/ipod/podzilla2/core/pz.c: 03:36 < CIA-10> Switching on HOLD does not activate the backlight. 03:36 < CIA-10> (Trac bug 2) 03:36 < courtc> yay! 03:37 < courtc> Thanks! 03:37 < BleuLlama> no prob 03:37 < BleuLlama> :) 03:40 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/tux32-mono2.png <- better? 03:41 < BleuLlama> Excellent! 03:41 < BleuLlama> thanks! 03:41 < courtc> You got it. NOw, why did I just do all that? 03:42 < BleuLlama> they won't be 3 dots on startup for long 03:42 < courtc> ah. 03:42 < BleuLlama> plus, i'm going to use them for loader 03:44 < BleuLlama> thank you much, sir! 03:44 < BleuLlama> that worked out well 03:46 < courtc> images moved to http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/?tux 03:48 < BleuLlama> any idea bout doing it on a black background? 03:48 < courtc> mono? 03:49 < BleuLlama> yes 03:49 < BleuLlama> maybe i'll just invert it. that'd work 03:49 < BleuLlama> i need to make a ttk icon of the 32x32 image 03:51 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Client Quit] 03:51 < BleuLlama> actually, this can be 4 bit gray. 03:51 < BleuLlama> er 03:51 < BleuLlama> 2 bit gray 03:54 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/tux-32-mono-darkbg.png 03:54 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has joined #ipodlinux 03:55 < BleuLlama> transparency. nice 03:56 -!- HellDragon is now known as Bitter 04:00 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/tux-32-4bit-darkbg.png 04:01 < BleuLlama> thanks! 04:03 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/tux-32-4bit-darkbg-smooth.png too, choose your faavorite 04:17 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@192-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 04:41 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@192-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:59 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2273 /libs/ttk/src/ (icons.c include/icons.h ttk.c ttk.h): 04:59 < CIA-10> Changed the 3 dots to be... 3 Tuxes! 04:59 < CIA-10> Thanks to CourtC for the Tux icon 04:59 < CIA-10> Added ttk_draw_icon_color() to draw icons without Appearance 04:59 < CIA-10> The monochrome dots are now grayscale tuxes 04:59 < CIA-10> The color dots are now gray tuxes on colored circles 05:02 < BleuLlama> whee 05:10 < BleuLlama> thoughts? 06:01 < courtc> haha! sweet 06:36 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.239.46] has joined #ipodlinux 07:32 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:50 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:51 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 07:54 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:58 -!- amiconn [n=jens@p54BD66EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:00 -!- F-F_|hmf| [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:02 -!- F-F_|hmf| [i=FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has joined #ipodlinux 08:05 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:05 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 < rvvs89> Happy Oktoberfest, people 08:16 < rvvs89> Not that I did anything to celebrate it, other than spelling October with a K 08:17 < rvvs89> Anyway, is there any place I can find documentation for /dev/misc/wheel? 08:26 -!- ionvas [n=ionvas@217.189.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit ["MegaIRC v3.90 http://ironfist.at.tut.by"] 08:34 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.239.46] has quit [] 08:47 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-a36983c14e76b29f] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:54 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:00 < rvvs89> Where can I send a patch? 09:01 < rvvs89> Or rather, who can submit a patch for me? 09:02 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:07 < rvvs89> courtc, fxb__, BleuLlama? 09:11 < rvvs89> Meh, patch is here: http://www.box.net/shared/bgmtatqnou 09:17 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@nor75-3-82-226-37-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:21 < rvvs89> Looks like I made it one directory too high, have fixed it 09:21 -!- ionvas [n=ionvas@217.189.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:28 < courtc> rvvs89: hrm... I'm not going to commit that. 09:31 < rvvs89> Well, reorganising the directory structure must have broken a few paths, and that was one of them 09:32 < rvvs89> Meh, your choice 09:33 < courtc> I'll make it work, but in a differnt way. working on it now, 09:33 < rvvs89> Ok :) 09:51 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:51 < CIA-10> courtc * r2274 /apps/ipod/podzilla2/Makefile: make podzilla2 look in ttk and ../../../libs/ttk in addition to ../ttk 09:54 < courtc> rvvs89: how's that? 09:55 < rvvs89> Hmm, ipl.org is dead for me, I'll check sourceforge 09:56 < rvvs89> I'm sure it's fine though 09:56 < courtc> actually, I forgot a condition... :p 09:58 < rvvs89> Ah I see 09:59 < rvvs89> Although I can't see the condition you forgot heh 10:00 < courtc> if ttk is installed and target = dev-env 10:00 < rvvs89> Interesting page_alloc2 just spammed BUG() at line 442 while I was testing unrar... 10:00 < rvvs89> -.- 10:06 < rvvs89> Oh right, I forgot you could make install ttk 10:15 < CIA-10> courtc * r2275 /apps/ipod/podzilla2/Makefile: forgot a conditional, redone 10:15 < courtc> That's way more complicated than it should be. 10:15 < courtc> we probably need a simple configure script. 10:18 -!- Flygisoft [n=sirix@84-217-66-254.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:57 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 11:54 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@251.Red-83-61-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:04 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 12:38 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 12:39 -!- JonKanon [n=henrik@ti132110a080-11344.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 12:39 < JonKanon> podzilla crashes when trying to exec files. Help? 12:48 < BleuLlama> i've been doing: make TTKDIR=../ttk , courtc 12:54 -!- n1mda [n=n1mda@117.102.129.173] has joined #ipodlinux 12:55 < BleuLlama> courtc: is the sense on line 26 of the makefile backwards? 12:55 < BleuLlama> i don't have ttk-config in my path, and it sets TTKCONF there 13:21 < BleuLlama> hrm. 13:21 < BleuLlama> this is weird. 13:35 < rvvs89> Heh, I'm guessing by the change in avatar that you had a shave 13:38 < BleuLlama> a bunch of months back. i only just realzed the avatar there was out of date. heh 13:51 -!- AriX_ [n=arix@c-76-99-119-157.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:54 < rvvs89> Heh 14:24 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit ["Cant sleep..... 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18:49 -!- ac556 [n=ac@cpe-74-71-55-191.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:50 < BleuLlama> huh. okay then 19:01 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.210.236] has quit [] 19:08 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-bb38819f33fa7372] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:22 -!- screwt840 [i=screwt8@gateway/tor/x-3ac239911f29ec92] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:25 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama, find those images? 19:47 < BleuLlama> courtc made some up for me. 19:47 < BleuLlama> the new TTK/Podzilla2 build has Tux now instead of the 3 dots 19:47 < BleuLlama> well. technically, 3 tuxes instead of 3 dots 19:47 < BHSPitLappy> nice 19:47 < BHSPitLappy> ipl tux? 19:47 < BleuLlama> yep 19:48 < BHSPitLappy> "made some up"? 19:48 < BleuLlama> well, scaled, then tweaked on a pixel level 19:48 < BHSPitLappy> ah 19:48 < BleuLlama> monochrome ipods show 3 grayscale tuxes on a white backgroun 19:48 -!- CIA-10 [i=cia@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 19:48 < BleuLlama> color ipods show 3 grayscale tuxes on red, green, blue circles on a black background 19:49 < BHSPitLappy> good stuff 19:49 < BleuLlama> i think it looks nice 19:49 < BHSPitLappy> somebody should finish bootsplash :] 19:50 < BleuLlama> where is that code? it was a 3rd party thing, not a core thing, right? 19:50 < BHSPitLappy> josh made it 19:50 < BHSPitLappy> might have to check the wiki 19:51 < BHSPitLappy> I just stumbled across my stash of iPL-related files 19:51 < BHSPitLappy> old image sources, the headers from the blog, other fun little things 19:52 < BHSPitLappy> heh, the icons I made for the hotdog-based loader2 that never saw light 19:54 -!- CIA-10 [i=cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #ipodlinux 19:57 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host192-89-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 < BleuLlama> BHSPitLappy: i wouldn't say "never saw light" 19:58 < BleuLlama> i would say "haven't seen light yet" 19:58 < BHSPitLappy> meh 19:58 -!- oslo is now known as oslo_pasl 19:58 < BleuLlama> hotdog loader2 is still something to be done. it hasn't been written off 20:11 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:15 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:19 < DataGhost> BleuLlama I thought it was already using... at least the display driver? 20:19 < DataGhost> wait. display driver doesn't sound as useful as heavily-optimized-gfx-library-which-talks-to-a-display-driver 20:20 < BleuLlama> DataGhost: i think what is meant is the hotdog visual effects portion of it 20:20 < BleuLlama> yeah 20:20 < BleuLlama> which no one has worked on yet, past the tinyhd experiments 20:20 < BleuLlama> afaik 20:20 < DataGhost> well, it's not that important, I guess that's why 20:20 < DataGhost> you see that screen about 1-3 times a day? 20:20 < DataGhost> possibly 20:21 < DataGhost> for 5 seconds each time :P 20:21 < DataGhost> or even less. when I'm debugging, I set up a default bootline, set it to 1 second timeout and I use a bootsector backup to reboot my iPod the instant I'm done writing to it 20:26 < BleuLlama> yeah. 20:26 < BleuLlama> that's the reason it hasn't really been worked on 20:26 * BleuLlama is working on PZ menu groupings right now 20:26 < BleuLlama> that should really spiff-up the display look 20:40 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 20:43 -!- oslo_pasl [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:11 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 21:13 -!- perror [n=fleury@mazurek.labri.fr] has quit ["I'll be back !"] 21:17 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host192-89-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:26 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@nor75-3-82-226-37-131.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:26 -!- cdm_ [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:39 -!- gratiz [n=fuck@pD9EBFEE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:39 < gratiz> hi 21:40 < gratiz> did someone try to build a exploit for the ipod 2nd gen ? 21:41 < gratiz> ive found out that its very easy to let the ipod crash and reboot if you got some invalid entries in your db 21:41 < gratiz> maybe this could be used to get the linux bootloader looded 21:42 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@154-159.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 21:46 < DataGhost> give me a nano2g (I guess that's the device you're referring to) plus your 'research', and I'll consider having a go 21:47 < gratiz> im not sure if its a nano2g could be a nano3g 21:47 < gratiz> its black and has 8gb space + not older then 2 months 21:49 < BleuLlama> if you don't know if you have a nano2g or a nano3g, then... 21:49 * BleuLlama is trying to say only nice things. 21:50 < gratiz> then tell me the diffrence and we find it out 21:50 < gratiz> Modell num a1199 21:51 < BleuLlama> it's your ipod. you should know. 21:51 < BleuLlama> i'm too busy to do your research for you 21:53 < gratiz> got the 2nd one 21:54 -!- rager [n=rager@ragerbook.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2276 /libs/ttk/src/icons.c: Purely asthetic change. removed spaces from the Tux icon to make it easier to see. 22:00 < DataGhost> gratiz http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 22:02 < gratiz> ive just cleaned my ipod and tried to get it crashed again 22:02 < gratiz> and it worked 22:03 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:04 < gratiz> looks like it crashes thorugh a corrupt mp3 22:04 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.210.236] has joined #ipodlinux 22:04 < gratiz> but the mp3 plays fine on my pc 22:04 < DataGhost> heh @ e-mail BleuLlama ;) 22:04 < BleuLlama> email? 22:04 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.210.236] has quit [Client Quit] 22:05 < DataGhost> svn 22:05 < BleuLlama> oh. heh. :) 22:05 < DataGhost> did you do that by hand or search/replace?: 22:05 < DataGhost> :P 22:06 < gratiz> is there a way to debug a ipod ? 22:06 < DataGhost> yes, we have the old and trusty printf(); 22:06 < BleuLlama> yay. i'm getting svn emails now 22:06 < BleuLlama> gratiz: find the jtag pins on the mainboard and tap into them 22:07 < BleuLlama> then do a lot of RE work to figure out what's going on 22:07 < BleuLlama> if the pins are even still there. 22:07 < gratiz> :/ 22:07 < gratiz> what kind of assembler does it use ? 22:07 < BleuLlama> go to that Generations page mentioned earlier to see the cpu types 22:07 < gratiz> ppc ? 22:07 < gratiz> k 22:08 < gratiz> and is debugging possible from a ipod that got linux running ? 22:08 < BleuLlama> you can printf, look at the console, or wire in a jtag debugger 22:09 < gratiz> the same software version (v1.0.1) runs on a iPod classic 22:10 < gratiz> ah sorry wrong ipod :/ 22:12 < gratiz> the crashing depends on the nameing of the mp3 22:12 < gratiz> it its "BILLY_IDOL___DANCING_WITH_M.MP3" then it crashes 22:13 < gratiz> "billy.mp3" works find 22:13 < gratiz> btw im using sharepod to upload songs to my ipod 22:13 -!- davina [n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:20 < DataGhost> gratiz iPod Nano 2G has software v1.1.3 22:20 < DataGhost> iPod 'normal,veryold' 1G has v1.1.3 as well 22:20 < DataGhost> are they running the same software? don't think so. 22:21 < gratiz> nope read something wrong on the apple page 22:21 < gratiz> but ive found out what let the ipod crash 22:21 < gratiz> its the ending of the title 22:21 < gratiz> if its called {".Mp3 | ".mp3"} it works find 22:22 < gratiz> but if you call it ".MP3" it will crash 22:22 < gratiz> thats all 22:22 < gratiz> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61688#ipodnano2 22:22 < gratiz> iPod nano (Second Generation) (2 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB) 22:22 < gratiz> 2006-09 Click Wheel 2 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB 1.1 22:22 < gratiz> 1.1.3 22:23 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@154-159.78-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:24 < BleuLlama> what's your point? 22:25 < gratiz> that its running v1.1.3 22:25 < gratiz> and that its realy easy to let it crash 22:26 < BleuLlama> okay. so don't play that song on it, or use itunes to load it up for you 22:26 -!- Bitter [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Client Quit] 22:26 < gratiz> hehe but i could be used to write a exploit 22:26 < gratiz> thats my point 22:27 < DataGhost> yes, if it wasn't intended to automatically reboot upon encountering such a filename, clearly indicating that somebody is trying to tamper with the device 22:27 < DataGhost> since iTunes doesn't write filenames like that 22:28 < gratiz> for me it looks like the watchdog is catching this fault and rebooting 22:29 < gratiz> do you have any expirence with writeing exploits ß 22:29 < gratiz> ? 22:29 < BleuLlama> i'm still amazed that modern cpus don't have an Upward moving stack, or a forced separation between code space and program space. 22:29 < DataGhost> depends on your interpretation 22:30 < DataGhost> well BleuLlama some programs actually modify their own code 22:32 < gratiz> is there a way to make use of this information without a jtag ? 22:32 < BleuLlama> but that's not really needed. you can work with non-self-modifying code 22:37 < gratiz> maybe someone could check if the same fault happens on a ipod where linux is allready working 22:37 -!- termin8or123 [n=fb51dann@adsl-75-50-57-162.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:38 < termin8or123> hello, I need help uninstalling iPod Linux 22:38 < gratiz> could make the reversing easier 22:39 < termin8or123> i have a 5th generation iPod 22:39 < DataGhost> restore it with iTunes 22:39 < DataGhost> or reverse the instructions that you used. 22:39 < DataGhost> or figure out what is actually done to your iPod when installing, and undo that 22:40 < termin8or123> what happens when I restore it with iTunes? 22:40 < DataGhost> iTunes will tell you that. Basically, it'll uninstall iPodLinux. 22:41 < termin8or123> ok, so how do I restore my iPod? 22:41 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has joined #ipodlinux 22:41 < DataGhost> open iTunes and hit the enormous restore button 22:42 < DataGhost> if you can't find it, have your eyes checked 22:42 < termin8or123> ok, lol 22:42 < termin8or123> aw, all my songs are gone 22:43 < termin8or123> thank your DataGhost 22:43 < DataGhost> you're welcome 22:43 < DataGhost> sync again and they're back on. 22:43 < termin8or123> ok 22:44 < termin8or123> do you have iDoom? 22:44 -!- HellDragon is now known as Bitter 22:44 < DataGhost> yes, why? 22:45 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 22:45 < termin8or123> can you run Duke Nukem on there? 22:45 < DataGhost> I don't know 22:46 < termin8or123> could you put Doom 2 on there?\ 22:46 < BleuLlama> please just look through the website 22:46 < BleuLlama> there's an entire page dedicated to all of the useless games ported to run under iPodLinux 22:47 < termin8or123> ok 22:49 < termin8or123> you have to have podzilla 2 to play iDoom? 22:49 < DataGhost> no. Can you please read *ALL* pages related to your question before asking them? 22:49 < DataGhost> it* 22:50 < termin8or123> ok, sorry 23:01 < termin8or123> ok, well i'm trying to install iPod linux again. and it says there is something wrong with my sysinfo file 23:02 < BleuLlama> oh, there's a simple solution for that 23:02 < termin8or123> nvm 23:02 < termin8or123> i found it 23:02 < BleuLlama> GOOD 23:03 < termin8or123> im sorry guys 23:06 < DataGhost> heh. 23:06 < termin8or123> now its the long wait 23:06 < termin8or123> *backing up firmware* 23:11 < termin8or123> Ghost when did you first find out, or/ get into ipod modding? 23:13 < DataGhost> no idea, ~2 years ago I guess. 10 months ago 'actively' 23:17 < termin8or123> cool 23:17 < termin8or123> i just got into it like 5 days ago 23:17 < termin8or123> as u can see 23:17 < termin8or123> lol... :P 23:17 < BleuLlama> please spell out your words in here. 23:17 < termin8or123> ok 23:19 < DataGhost> termin8or123 that still doesn't matter. anyone can do this without having to ask questions, no matter the amount of experience with iPodLinux specifically (assuming sufficient host OS knowledge is present) 23:20 < termin8or123> yea, 23:20 < termin8or123> I just don't want to screw anything up by following the instructions in the manual 23:27 -!- termin8or123 [n=fb51dann@adsl-75-50-57-162.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 23:27 -!- cdm_ is now known as cdm --- Log closed Mon Oct 08 00:00:00 2007