--- Log opened Fri Oct 05 00:00:12 2007
00:12 < BHSPitMonkey> davidc__, cracking a lot of iTouches yet?
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00:13 < BleuLlama> Logitech iTouch?
00:13 < BleuLlama> that's VERY off topic in here
00:14 < BleuLlama> it's just a keyboard, anyway.
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00:37  * BleuLlama is trying to figure out how to add "groupings" to ttk/menus
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00:42 < BleuLlama> (without completely breaking everything)
00:43 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, you kidder you
00:43 < BleuLlama> what?  i've been staring at ttk code for about an hour now
00:45 < BleuLlama> i'm not sure that I can do what I want to do without large changes
00:47 < BHSPitMonkey> make large changes, it's okay
00:48 < BHSPitMonkey> even if you do break everything, at least something will have happened
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01:02 < BleuLlama> okay. think i'm going to take a step back, and figure out how this should work, then see how i can adapt it for the existing code with the least impact
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01:23 < GodsPurge> help!
01:23 < GodsPurge> is thereanyone there that can help me with a question?
01:24 < BleuLlama> i can help you with a question.  It usually starts with some kind of inquisitive word, and ends with a question mark ("?").  you're welcome.
01:24  * BleuLlama afl
01:24 < GodsPurge> ok I tried to install ipodlinux-installer-2.3w onto my 4g iPod Mini second gerneration 
01:24 < GodsPurge> i used the zip package from the officail site
01:25 < AriX_> it's 4gb, not 4g.
01:25 < GodsPurge> ty
01:25 < GodsPurge> ok 4gb
01:25 < AriX_> :P a pet peeve of mine, sorry
01:25 < GodsPurge> it got 97& of the way done
01:25 < GodsPurge> then i got the error message (unable to modify firmwar) error 10
01:26 < GodsPurge> would anyone be able to help me with this problem?
01:28 < GodsPurge> ok i guess not
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01:29  * GodsPurge oh well
01:36 < CIA-10> courtc * r2265 /apps/desktop/installer2/: properly set the svn:externals
01:37 < courtc> BleuLlama, DataGhost: problem was valid, now fixed.
01:37 < BleuLlama> okey cool. i thought it might be a valid problem, due to everything moving around
01:38 < BleuLlama> thanks! You rock
01:38 < courtc> ;)
01:43 < BleuLlama> hould i reply to the forum topic?
01:44  * BleuLlama does
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03:20 < rvvs89> Morning
03:22 < courtc> he rvvs89 
03:23 < courtc> hey*
03:30 < rvvs89> How be ye?
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03:32 < pumpkingod> hey davidc__ :)
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04:21 < BleuLlama> okay, so here's my current thought on groupings;
04:22 < BleuLlama> ttk/menu.h: add TTK_MENU_ICON_HED  for a header item
04:22 < BleuLlama> these are rendered differently than other items
04:22 < BleuLlama> in struct ttk_menu_item, add: int group;
04:23 < BleuLlama> then in menu.c in pz (and subsequently in ttk) have a ttk_menu_group( char * name, int value );  or ttk_menu_group( int value )
04:24 < BleuLlama> which is independant of the regular menu creation things, to maintain compatibility with existing code
04:24 < BleuLlama> so an app would do:
04:25 < BleuLlama> (function names are innacurate)
04:25 < BleuLlama> register_menu_item( "extras/games/vortex", my_callback );
04:25 < BleuLlama> set_menu_grouping( "extras/games/vortex", "Action" );
04:25 < BleuLlama> or rather
04:26 < BleuLlama> set_menu_grouping( "extras/games/vortex", "Arcade" );
04:26 < BleuLlama> then, as usual, at the end of the registration, the menus are sorted, but now, they're sorted by grouping, then by item name
04:27 < BleuLlama> this would enable functionality like you see in iPhoneOS and iPod Touch OS (look at the preferences menu for an example)
04:28 < BleuLlama> so you can have things grouped, or grouped with titles
04:29 < BleuLlama> i can then add in stuff to the rendering to have not only menu items in the .cs file, but also: headers, first Menu Item, Menu Item, last menu item
04:29 < BleuLlama> perhaps there should be a "default grouping" for a menu as well, with a specification of whether it should be at the top or bottom of a list
04:29 < BleuLlama> for example, unsorted games
04:29 < BleuLlama> (those that do not include the menu grouping option - existing modules, etc)
04:31 < BleuLlama> not sure how you;d do something like this menu: http://www.appleiphonereview.com/images/iphone-settings-l.jpg  where the groupings are unnamed
04:31 < BleuLlama> hmm
04:31 < BleuLlama> but for reference: http://www.appleiphonereview.com/images/iphone-settings-l.jpg  
04:33 < BleuLlama> hmm.  perhaps the group name should be included in the ttk_menu_item structure, rather than as its own item
04:33 < BleuLlama> that would simplify sorting a lot
04:35 < BleuLlama> hmm. a substructure would work well
04:39 < BleuLlama> anyone have any thoughts?
04:42 < BleuLlama> nevermind on the substructure.  it's two items, no need for that
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05:06 < DataGhost> rvvs89 I'm putting him on probation
05:06 < DataGhost> he suggested the virus thing before
05:06 < DataGhost> I warned him 3 times now, I guess.
05:08 < BleuLlama> who's this?
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05:12 < DataGhost> BleuLlama pwner5889
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05:13 < DataGhost> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=234044#234044
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05:44 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2266 /libs/ttk/src/ (SDL_rotozoom.c imgview.c): Minor tweaks to elimiate some compiler warnings
05:48 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2267 /libs/ttk/src/ (include/menu.h menu.c ttk.h): 
05:48 < CIA-10> Adding the beginnings of menu groups.
05:48 < CIA-10> The menu_item structure has changed (added two items) so the Major version number was bumped.
05:48 < CIA-10> src/menu.c contains comments/bookmarks as to where I need to add the supporting code.
05:57 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2268 /libs/ttk/API/API.tex: Updated to add the grouping information.
06:04 < CIA-10> yorgle * r2269 /libs/ttk/ (API/API.tex src/include/menu.h src/ttk.h): 
06:04 < CIA-10> Moved the group items in the structure to a more sane location.
06:04 < CIA-10> Also bumped the major version again, due to that.
06:04 < CIA-10> Put my intentions in the API document for what those items mean.
06:04 < BleuLlama> yarr
06:04  * BleuLlama goes to sleep
06:10 < BleuLlama> okay
06:10 < BleuLlama> the .cs changes will be backwards compatible
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06:10 < BleuLlama> just want to get this thought out before i go to sleep
06:10 < BleuLlama> the regular menu: item in the .cs file will be the default for all menu items
06:11 < BleuLlama> i will add a few more items in it that can be used for the new groups
06:11 < BleuLlama> ie, selbg, selfg, selchoice  exist now
06:12 < BleuLlama> i'll add selbg.start selbg.end, selfg.start selfg.end  headerfg  headerbg  and so on
06:12 < BleuLlama> and if it can't resolve selfg.start, it will fall back on seldg
06:12 < BleuLlama> selfg*
06:12 < BleuLlama> i think that will work
06:13 < BleuLlama> night all
06:13 < rvvs89> night
06:14 < BleuLlama> :)
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06:35 < rvvs89> DataGhost: rgr
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08:28 < n1mda> hi guys
08:29 < n1mda> anyone there?
08:33 < rvvs89> Yes
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08:56 < n1mda> hey
08:56 < n1mda> is there anyone alive now?
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08:57 < n1mda> I wonder if someone has a mirror of arm-uclinux-elf-tools-base-gcc3.4.3-20050722.sh ?
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09:05 < rvvs89> Any particular reason why?
09:05 < rvvs89> The main link seems to be working
09:07 < n1mda> not for me... maybe I have the wrong one... care to link for me?
09:08 < rvvs89> Here: http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/toolchain/linux-x86/arm-uclinux-elf-tools-base-gcc3.4.3-20050722.sh
09:08 < n1mda> nope, problem loading page
09:08 < n1mda> its compeletly down, only for me?
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09:13 < n1mda> rvvs89: can you access that file?
09:13 < n1mda> I cant
09:14 < rvvs89> Yep, I downloaded the first 500kb before I canceled it
09:16 < n1mda> would you like to do me a favour?
09:16 < n1mda> to download it and upload somewhere else
09:16 < n1mda> caus I really cant access...
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09:21 < n1mda> rvvs89: Do you want to do that for me?
09:22 < rvvs89> I'm on a capped connection here, I don't really have the bandwidth
09:22 < rvvs89> If it was tomorrow (bandwidth resets) it'd be ok
09:23 < n1mda> oh allright... any one else that wants to download this file for me? since I can't reach it
09:23 < n1mda> thats allright :) If I dont get it today ill drop in 2morrow?
09:23 < rvvs89> Yeah, that would be fine
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09:26 < DataGhostP> That dcheat guy is cute, heh.
09:27 < rvvs89> DataGhost: Your P is showing! D:
09:27 < DataGhostP> Heh
09:28 < DataGhostP> Phone :) i'm in the train right now
09:29 < DataGhostP> Hold on, going to rotate my screen back into readable position
09:30 < DataGhostP> Wee :) jmirc didn't even crash!
09:31 < DataGhostP> Wait, it just doesnt know. My screen is cut off
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09:32 < DataGhostP> Well, that sucked
09:33 < DataGhostP> Now i'm bored
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09:50 < rvvs89> heh
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09:58 < DataGhost> and voila! it's ME!
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10:19 < DataGhost> http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2007/ga071005.gif
10:19 < DataGhost> :D
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14:54 < Aicart> Anybody uses ipodlinux as the main Ipod's firmware ?
14:57 < BleuLlama> Courtc is i believe
14:58 < courtc> indeed.
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15:37  * rvvs89 mutters something about incomplete programming assignment specifications...
15:38  * BleuLlama mutters something about off-topic muttering in channel
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15:44 < rvvs89> And DataGhost can post a link to an off-topic picture without an equivalent mutter?
15:44 < DataGhost> ?
15:44 < rvvs89> Seems like double standards to me
15:45 < DataGhost> oh, heh. sorry :P
15:45 < BleuLlama> i was joking. geez, you people
15:45 < DataGhost> heh
15:45  * DataGhost continues working on helvetica
15:45 < rvvs89> It can be hard to tell on IRC... heh
15:46 < DataGhost> unless there is some straightforward approach, based on a program, which turns a .ttf file into a nice png with an antialiased font
15:46 < DataGhost> I'm halfway through normal helvetica and I still have to do bold :(
15:46 < BleuLlama> DataGhost: easy enough
15:46 < DataGhost> well, I have to move all characters together because the spacing between them isn't constant
15:46 < DataGhost> some chars have 5 pixels between them, some have 0...
15:46 < BleuLlama> make an SDL program that uses libttf or whatever, render the font to the image, save it out as a png
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15:47 < BleuLlama> you can get that info from the font itself - kerning, etc.
15:47 < DataGhost> well they should all have 2 pixels interleaving and a set of 'identifying' pixels at the second one
15:47 < DataGhost> but I guess this is easier
15:47 < DataGhost> since I've never worked with sdl, libttf or ttf in general
15:47 < DataGhost> and they have to be antialiased :P which is not in the font
15:48 < BleuLlama> libttf will do that as you render it
15:48 < BleuLlama> iirc
15:48 < DataGhost> grr
15:48 < DataGhost> well maybe something to do later on. or for helvetica bold
15:48 < DataGhost> I'm going to finish helvetica anyway
15:49 < DataGhost> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ that's all that remains, plus the identifying pixel thingies
15:49 < rvvs89> 'night
15:49 < DataGhost> oh. night :)
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15:50 < DataGhost> (by the way, I just remembered that the 5 pixel thing is caused by the spaces I added because some had 0px.)
15:52 < fxb> why don't you write a php script?
15:54 < DataGhost> what's up with everyone making me feel silly? :(
15:54 < DataGhost> anyway, possibly for helvetica bold then :P
15:54 < DataGhost> I only have to do the 'identify' pixels on helvetica
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16:08 < DataGhost> It's done! \o/
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19:03 < BleuLlama> so, can you do anything stylish with ipodwizard, or is everything crap and gaudy?
19:04 < BleuLlama> hrm
19:04 < BleuLlama> perhaps i'm too cynical;
19:11 < Orblivion> you hope it's worth your time
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19:18 < BleuLlama> heh
19:20 < DataGhost> who are you talking to BleuLlama? :o
19:22 < BleuLlama> no one apparently
19:23 < DataGhost> hm ok, so I'm not ignoring anyone :)
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20:31 < braineater> Hi all, trying to install ipodlinux using loader2. I ran qmake followed by make but I get a long list of errors. What could be the problem?
20:33 < braineater> Also, the links to the pre-built versions are broken. For example: http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/installer/ipodlinux-installer-2.2l-netless-20060709.tar.gz
20:35 < braineater> anyone here?
20:37 < courtc> What's your first error?
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20:39 < braineater> In file included from installer.h:10,
20:39 < braineater>                  from installer.cc:5:
20:39 < braineater> complexwizard.h:27:19: error: QDialog: No such file or directory
20:39 < braineater> complexwizard.h:28:17: error: QList: No such file or directory
20:42 < courtc> What version of QT do you have installed?
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20:45 < braineater> I don't know.. how do I check? 
20:45 < braineater> I'm on ubuntu and libqt4-core is already the latest version
20:45 < braineater> libqt4-dev isn't installed though
20:45 < courtc> Well you can start up qtconfig and look under Help -> About Qt
20:46 < braineater> qtconfig isn't installed
20:46 < braineater> Do I need qt3 or qt4?
20:46 < courtc> qmake --version
20:47 < braineater> Qmake version: 1.07a (Qt 3.3.7)
20:48 < courtc> I'm pretty sure you need qt4
20:48 < braineater> okay.. thanks a lot
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20:58 < fxb> braineater: http://felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/svnbuilds/
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21:26 < braineater> Yay! I fixed it by modifying source.
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21:26 < courtc> braineater: did you make it compatible with qt 3?
21:26 < braineater> No, the HTTP proxy problem
21:27 < courtc> oh.
21:27 < courtc> How did you fix it?
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21:29 < braineater> I'm behind an HTTP proxy so have to use it to access the internet. So I added this line 448 of packages.cc
21:30 < braineater> packlistHTTP->setProxy (....)
21:31 < braineater> It should probably use http_proxy or take it as parameters...
21:31 < courtc> indeed.
21:31 < braineater> Which one would be preferable? I'd like to make my first ever open source contribution :)
21:33 < braineater> http_proxy or take as command line arguments?
21:34 < courtc> One second
21:34 < braineater> Whoops! The installer segfaulted while it was installing the packages.
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21:36 < courtc> http://ipl.nonb.org/ticket/3
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21:37 < braineater> Cool, thanks.
21:39 < braineater> I get this error when it's downloading the package list:
21:39 < braineater> Bad package list line: |[kernel] kernel 2.4.24-ipod2: "The iPodLinux kernel - REQUIRED" at http://ipodlinux.org/images/b/b6/Linux.bin.gz to linux.bin default yes category base| (doesn't match rx)
21:39 < braineater> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
21:39 < braineater> The Segfault is just after it finished making a backup image.
21:41 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=iPodLinux:Installation_sources&action=edit
21:41 < courtc> That line looks ok to me.
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22:40 < daCrazi> Yo all!
22:42 < daCrazi> Any ideas as to why my ipod is not being detected even though all the criteria fit where it displays the problem
22:45 < daCrazi> ANYONE?!
22:45 < braineater> what exactly do you mean?
22:45 < daCrazi> well, i have a 5.5 30gb 
22:46 < daCrazi> and i tried to use the installer
22:46 < daCrazi> but it would not detect my ipod
22:48 < daCrazi> it does not detect in normal or disk mode  :| 
22:50 < daCrazi> ???
22:51 < braineater> I don't know... am new to this myself
22:51 < daCrazi> is theree anyone around here that might know?
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22:55 < fxb> someone has a http proxy ip for me to test installer 2?
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22:55 < fxb> braineater?
22:55 < daCrazi> you
22:55 < daCrazi> could you help me?
22:56 < braineater> The one I (am forced to) use is in the local intranet
22:56 < fxb> thought so :P, i can't find a working http proxy...
22:56 < courtc> 66.249.2.51: 80
22:56 < daCrazi> fxb, could you help me out?
22:56 < courtc> 85.25.140.160: 80 <- .de
22:57 < fxb> seems to work, cool!
22:57 < daCrazi> ...
22:57 < fxb> daCrazi: 5.5G is not supported by the installer.
22:58 < daCrazi> ...than, how do i go about doing it?
22:59 < daCrazi> i used rockbox...but i want to watch videos
23:00 < daCrazi> fxb, it says in the topic in this irc that 5.5's work
23:01 < daCrazi> and just so you know, im running windows
23:01 < braineater> but the installer doesn't work with 5.5's
23:01 < braineater> you can use other methods to get it to work, I guess
23:02 < daCrazi> well...what are the other methods?
23:03 < braineater> http://ipodlinux.org/Installation
23:07 < daCrazi> fxb?
23:09 < fxb> yes? manual installation?
23:11 < daCrazi> yeah
23:18 < daCrazi> im trying to do a manual installation with the commandline
23:18 < daCrazi>  but it seems not to be working
23:19 < braineater> me also doing the same now as installer2 isn't working for me either... what have you done till now and what's not working?
23:20 < daCrazi> well, where it said to type ipodpatch 0-9
23:21 < daCrazi> none worked and all spat out errors
23:25 < braineater> Have you done the partitioning?
23:25 < daCrazi> a wha?
23:26 < braineater> You need an ex2 partition
23:26 < daCrazi> how might i go about doing this
23:26 < daCrazi> and should it not be like that by default
23:26 < daCrazi> ?
23:27 < braineater> No, there should not be any ext2 partition by default
23:28 < braineater> not sure how you'll do it in windows, but you need to use fdisk
23:32 < CIA-10> fxbhh * r2270 /apps/desktop/installer2/ (installer.cc installer.h main.cc packages.cc): Small fix in package list parsing.\nAdded HTTP proxy support. Use either -p option or set HTTP_PROXY / http_proxy environment variables.
23:32 < fxb> yay! :)
23:33 < courtc> :)
23:34 < braineater> :)
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23:35 < fxb> courtc: set it to fixed already? :P i wanted to!
23:35 < courtc> :/ sorry.
23:36 < fxb> heh, np :)
23:37 < fxb> oh, you can't do \n in commit messages?
23:38 < DataGhost> yes you can, but it wasn't parsed
23:38 < DataGhost> execute echo "blah\nmeh"
23:38 < DataGhost> and echo -e "blah\nmeh"
23:38 < DataGhost> :)
23:39 < fxb> it always worked...
23:39 < DataGhost> :\
23:40 < DataGhost> not for me, I have to use -e explicitly (linux). anyway, svn probably doesn't parse literal \n
23:41 < courtc> You have to say -m"blah
23:41 < courtc> blah"
23:42 < fxb> okay.
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