--- Log opened Sun Sep 02 00:00:01 2007 00:01 < `sam`> i don't even know what that is 00:01 < kevipapo1> gaminglagoon.com, a way to get free wii points etc. 00:01 < kevipapo1> I was wondering if you give them your street address if they'll send you spam in the letter 00:02 < kevipapo1> *mail 00:04 < `sam`> it sounds interesting, but i don't like going through a bunch of offers like that 00:05 < kevipapo1> So many people say it's good, and if you don't get spam in the mail... 00:05 < kevipapo1> I think I might just try it 00:06 < `sam`> yeah, i'm gonna look at it again later... i get a bunch of junk mail anyway, if i get more i can always file it with the rest 00:07 < `sam`> and besides, it costs them money to print out that stuff and send it to me, so if i can waste enough of their money, maybe it will slow them down 00:15 < kevipapo1> I just want to see what it's like, I still need my parents to agree 00:45 -!- sebajosh [n=sebajosh@70-41-109-236.cust.wildblue.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:23 < BleuLlama> for utility functions on podzilla2, we should name the menu option by what it gives you, rather than what it is. 01:23 < BleuLlama> for example, "Files" not "File Browser" 01:24 < kevipapo1> Would you like to make the change then? 01:24 < kevipapo1> I don't see why file browser doesn't work 01:24 < BleuLlama> already made the change on my ipod 01:24 < kevipapo1> I like it more than files 01:24 < kevipapo1> how did you change it 01:24 < BleuLlama> well, you have "music", "settings" etc. 01:25 < kevipapo1> ya 01:25 < BleuLlama> how did i change it? i edited the module source and recompiled. 01:25 < kevipapo1> could you change the name of the folder in which the module is? 01:25 < BleuLlama> hmm? 01:26 < kevipapo1> the folder in which the module is located is called "file browser" 01:26 < kevipapo1> could you change the name of the folder to "files" instead? 01:27 < BleuLlama> if you wanted to, but that won't do anything 01:27 < BleuLlama> you just need to change the line in the file broser module that registers it in the pz menu heirarchy 01:27 < kevipapo1> darn 01:27 < kevipapo1> ok then, I was just wondering 01:28 < kevipapo1> thx, back to ebolawordl! 01:42 -!- thegeek [n=nnscript@s189a.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:43 -!- Killjoy [n=Killjoy@207.194.175.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:45 -!- thegeek [n=nnscript@s189a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 01:45 < Killjoy> anyone know if there's a software audio mixer for podzilla? 01:46 < thegeek> ho hum 01:48 < Killjoy> ?? 01:49 -!- Killjoy [n=Killjoy@207.194.175.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:51 < kevipapo1> nope 01:51 < kevipapo1> not even close to that day 01:53 < kevipapo1> sorry buddy 01:56 -!- thegeek [n=nnscript@s189a.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:58 -!- thegeek [n=nnscript@s189a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 02:02 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:02 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:12 -!- AriX_ [n=arix@c-68-55-212-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving..."] 02:14 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 02:25 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:13 -!- knoppix_ [n=chatzill@user-0cdfqdt.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:14 -!- knoppix_ [n=chatzill@user-0cdfqdt.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:18 -!- oslo is now known as oslo_pasl 03:33 -!- oslo_pasl [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:44 -!- kevipapo1 [n=chatzill@adsl-64-175-64-249.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072517]"] 04:02 -!- rager [n=rager@64.125.162.126] has joined #ipodlinux 04:12 < BleuLlama> mental note: must change mikmodule to recognize files with uppercase extensions. :( 04:14 < BleuLlama> mental note: Must figure out why mikmodule is in mono on the 5.5g 30 04:17 -!- courtc [n=court@c-24-99-230-214.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:17 < BleuLlama> courtc! 04:17 < courtc> : 04:17 < courtc> :) 04:35 < BleuLlama> mental note: mikmodule should tell you /which/ song it failed loading when such a thing happens. duh 05:00 < rvvs89> no, that would be useful 05:13 -!- rager [n=rager@64.125.162.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:23 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@host86-149-162-206.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 07:00 -!- fps_max [i=eXact@dsl-kpogw7-feeffa00-188.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 07:07 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 07:11 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@host86-149-162-206.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 07:26 -!- The-Compiler [n=florian@2.2.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 07:35 -!- Rhoruns [n=Rhoruns@ip68-230-90-30.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:43 -!- The-Compiler [n=florian@2.2.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:09 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:10 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 -!- Gekkko [n=ruut@unaffiliated/gekkko] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 < Gekkko> what's new in the world of ipodlinux 08:17 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has joined #ipodlinux 08:18 < Gekkko> that interesting huh? 08:19 -!- davina [n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:24 < rvvs89> 2thamax 08:46 -!- Rhoruns [n=Rhoruns@ip68-230-90-30.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["NOOOOOOOOB"] 08:54 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host63-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 09:02 -!- fps_max [i=eXact@dsl-kpogw7-feeffa00-188.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 09:29 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 09:31 -!- Spoil3r [i=Spoil3r@87-143-131.netrun.cytanet.com.cy] has joined #ipodlinux 09:34 < Spoil3r> can anyone help me with 1st gen nano? 09:42 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host63-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:01 -!- davina [n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:04 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 10:12 -!- davina [n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:46 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 11:05 -!- RvX [n=chatzill@80.50.28.38] has joined #ipodlinux 11:19 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 11:20 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has quit [] 11:25 -!- Guns-N-Roses [i=ducati@221.134.228.176] has joined #ipodlinux 11:25 < Guns-N-Roses> hello all 11:26 < Guns-N-Roses> i have a general question 11:26 < Guns-N-Roses> say i have placed some part of code into the rom itself 11:26 < Guns-N-Roses> and i would like to call it 11:26 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@70.Red-88-14-240.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:26 < Guns-N-Roses> then how do i tell arm gcc that it needs to resolve the address into the rom 11:26 < Guns-N-Roses> ? 11:27 < Guns-N-Roses> the function is already present in the rom, i just need to see what it does by calling it 11:28 < rvvs89> Guns-N-Roses: you have copied code to the flashrom itself? 11:30 < Guns-N-Roses> yes 11:30 < Guns-N-Roses> but its a binary hence has no symbol information 11:31 -!- Gekkko [n=ruut@unaffiliated/gekkko] has quit ["http://bbqsrc.org"] 11:31 < Guns-N-Roses> say even if i somehow get hold of the .elf how could i do this ? 11:31 < Guns-N-Roses> i mean .elf of the image burnt into the rom 11:32 < Guns-N-Roses> i tried doin that in an untidy way, ie by declaring the function pointers with the addresses of rom functions 11:32 < Guns-N-Roses> and then calling those functions directly from c 11:32 < Guns-N-Roses> but it dont work all the time 11:33 < Guns-N-Roses> u there rvvs89 ? 11:33 < rvvs89> yeah, you would probably have to do something with asm 11:33 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has joined #ipodlinux 11:33 < Guns-N-Roses> i can do it in asm 11:33 < Guns-N-Roses> no problems with that 11:33 < rvvs89> but I'm out of my depth thar 11:33 < Guns-N-Roses> but its not a tidy way 11:34 < Guns-N-Roses> i knew ADS had a utility called SYMB to do this exactly 11:34 < Guns-N-Roses> but i dont have one around 11:34 < Guns-N-Roses> workin on arm gcc 11:34 < rvvs89> What I'm fairly certain of: hotdog copies code to IRAM and somehow exports symbols that can be called from C 11:34 < Guns-N-Roses> was wondering if arm gcc has such a counterpart 11:34 < rvvs89> you might want to take a look at the source 11:35 < Guns-N-Roses> okay i'll do that 11:35 < rvvs89> or ask leachbj heh 11:35 < Guns-N-Roses> hehehe okay 11:35 < Guns-N-Roses> whos that ? 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I keep getting Missing Dependency errors: The Package you selected, "factor", has a dependency on "textinput" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:41 < Chinaski1> The Package you selected, "factor", has a dependency on "tiwidgets" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:41 < Chinaski1> The Package you selected, "podpaint", has a dependency on "textinput" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:41 < Chinaski1> The Package you selected, "podpaint", has a dependency on "tiwidgets" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:41 < Chinaski1> The Package you selected, "podwrite", has a dependency on "textinput" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:41 < Chinaski1> The Package you selected, "podwrite", has a dependency on "tiwidgets" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:41 < Chinaski1> The Package you selected, "tixtensions", has a dependency on "tiwidgets" which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry, but you can't install this package. 14:42 < Chinaski1> the app then quits 14:42 < Chinaski1> any help? 14:43 < BleuLlama> did you read any of the errors that you pasted in here? 14:43 < Chinaski1> yes 14:44 < BleuLlama> and what did you understand from what they say? 14:44 < Chinaski1> that at the moment i can't install anything 14:45 < Chinaski1> i should do something to fix errors, thay's why i am asking here 14:45 < BleuLlama> what does "dependency" mean? 14:46 < Chinaski1> something that the installer needs to do his jobs 14:47 < BleuLlama> if package "A" has a dependency on "B", then you probably should figure out how to install "B" 14:47 < Chinaski1> k 14:48 < Chinaski1> do i need to create a folder in the app directory with all these dependacies?so the installer is able to read them ? 14:49 < BleuLlama> notice that it's not the installer tnat has the dependency, it's the package you selected for the ipod 14:49 < BleuLlama> so you need to install the other packages first 14:49 < BleuLlama> that's about as simple as i can make it for you 14:50 < Chinaski1> so first i need to install dependacies 14:50 < Chinaski1> how? 14:52 -!- Luke [n=Luke@74-132-228-30.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit ["booting a new kernel"] 14:59 < Chinaski1> installing packages means only copying them to ipod 15:00 -!- rhijaen [n=warirc@24-231-165-41.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:00 -!- `sam` [n=sam@CPE-75-81-234-51.we.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:00 < Chinaski1> or do i need to create some partitions, linux folders, and extract the files in the proper folders? 15:03 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has quit [Client Quit] 15:07 < Chinaski1> how do i install a package to my ipod? 15:28 -!- Bspec is now known as borg 15:29 -!- borg is now known as specB 15:29 -!- The-Compiler [n=florian@216.0.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 15:32 -!- GodEater_ [n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:40 -!- `sam` [n=sam@CPE-75-81-234-51.we.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:46 -!- rage1 [n=rager@ppp-70-247-168-185.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:01 -!- GodEater [n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater] has joined #ipodlinux 16:04 -!- rager [n=rager@ppp-70-247-168-185.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:23 < Chinaski1> i created a '/usr/lib' folder in my ipod and i copied the twidgets and textinput folders. then i Run the installer and keep getting the same errors 16:24 < Chinaski1> any help? 16:25 < Chinaski1> has anyone successfully installed iplinux with linux installer? 16:26 -!- rage1 [n=rager@ppp-70-247-168-185.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:52 -!- juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ipodlinux 16:52 -!- juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has left #ipodlinux ["Verlassend"] 16:57 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has joined #ipodlinux 17:15 -!- Luke [n=Luke@74-132-228-30.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 17:21 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:24 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@host86-136-24-157.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:26 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@host86-136-24-157.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:28 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@host86-136-24-157.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:38 -!- Chinaski1 [n=Druganti@host245-114-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:43 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@host86-136-24-157.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:45 -!- rager [n=rager@72.54.14.141] has joined #ipodlinux 17:59 -!- amiconn_ [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 18:17 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:17 -!- amiconn_ is now known as amiconn 18:38 -!- sebajosh [n=sebajosh@70-41-109-236.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:01 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@170.Red-88-1-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:26 -!- The-Compiler [n=florian@216.0.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:36 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host63-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 -!- kevipapo1 [n=chatzill@adsl-64-175-64-249.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 < kevipapo1> hello 19:47 * kevipapo1 wonders is anyone is here 20:02 -!- Aicart [n=aideb@170.Red-88-1-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:08 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@host86-136-24-157.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/"] 20:26 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:26 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 < DataGhost> anyone is out for dinner 20:40 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 20:40 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 20:41 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [K-lined] 20:47 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:48 * kevipapo1 is back 20:53 -!- HellDragon [n=Nocebo@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Client Quit] 20:54 -!- specB is now known as Bspec 20:57 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:58 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 < kevipapo1> hello? 21:02 < BleuLlama> it's a sunday... on a holiday weekend in the states too, so don't expect lots of people 21:10 -!- Chinaski1 [n=Druganti@host43-180-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:11 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 < kevipapo1> yeah, I know 21:12 < kevipapo1> Here in SF the Bay Bridge is closed 21:12 < kevipapo1> so there aren't many people out today 21:12 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:12 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:13 < Chinaski1> hello i installed ipod linux with uclinux kernel 2.4.24 and podzilla 2 21:13 < Chinaski1> i can't play videos 21:14 < Chinaski1> i use ubuntu linux and did not use the graphical installer .it didn't work 21:16 -!- tbr281 [n=Tibi@dhcp-097.sdfree.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:17 < tbr281> is it safe to install ipod linux on a 5G ipod video? 21:17 < Chinaski1> any help, i use an ipod photo 21:19 < Chinaski1> is podzilla2 the problem? 21:19 < Chinaski1> can i find some video playback module? 21:24 -!- cdm_ [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host63-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:24 < kevipapo1> @Chinaskil: use iLaunch to play videos 21:25 < kevipapo1> @tbr281: yes, both 5g and 5.5g are safe to use 21:25 < BleuLlama> ilaunch is an app launcher, not a movie player 21:26 < tbr281> thanks 21:27 < tbr281> should i download the latest installer? 21:27 < tbr281> i have an older version but not sure if i should use it 21:28 < Chinaski1> hello, BleuLlama, i menaged to install iplinux. I can't play movies , is podzilla 2 the problem or the kernel? 21:29 < BleuLlama> i installed windows xp, but cannot play Quake 4, is it firefox or notepad that is the problem? 21:29 < BleuLlama> you need to install a movie player application 21:29 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:29 -!- cdm_ is now known as cdm 21:29 < BleuLlama> heya cdm 21:29 < cdm> hey Bleu 21:29 < BleuLlama> how's it going? 21:29 < cdm> it's going really well. 21:29 < BleuLlama> :D 21:30 < BleuLlama> great to hear. 21:30 < BleuLlama> things jumping over there because of this coming week? 21:30 < cdm> Any progress on hacking the 2G nanos? 21:30 < BleuLlama> (or are they just jumping in general. ;) 21:30 < Chinaski1> what music player app do u suggest? 21:30 < cdm> Dunno -- I am on vacation. 21:30 < BleuLlama> nope, no progress on nano2g 21:30 < BleuLlama> no one has done the destructive RE on it at all 21:30 < kevipapo1> for music use your normal ipod mode, music playing in ipodlinux sux 21:31 < BleuLlama> Chinaski1: please spell out your words. 21:31 < kevipapo1> for video playing read and install the sttuff given on the ilaunch wiki page 21:31 < BleuLlama> kevipapo1: if you'd like, make it better. so that it doesn't suck 21:31 < kevipapo1> well, hardly anyone uses MPD because of how bad it is 21:31 < kevipapo1> agree? 21:31 < tbr281> the installer does not detect my ipod :( 21:32 < Chinaski1> BleuLlama,what music player application do you suggest? 21:32 < kevipapo1> ipodlinux.org/sysinfo 21:32 < kevipapo1> if your ipod doesn't get detected 21:32 < BleuLlama> no, hardly anyone uses mpd, because they can't seem to figure out how to insall it. there are quite a few people who have it running just fine 21:32 < kevipapo1> I have it running just fine, but it is too loud on the 5g, and too slow 21:33 < BleuLlama> too loud? there's a known issue with the volume not being linear/logarithmic on some 5gs 21:33 < BleuLlama> but volume still works 21:34 < kevipapo1> well, yeah, MPD in general works, but it's just not good on 5g ipods 21:34 < kevipapo1> we all use apple os 21:34 < BleuLlama> i personally use appleos since i like the itunes integration. 21:34 < kevipapo1> does the lva kernel fix the volume problem w/ MPD as well? 21:34 < kevipapo1> *lava kernel 21:34 < BleuLlama> lava kernel? 21:34 < kevipapo1> special kernel designed to make volume work correctly on 5g ipods 21:35 < kevipapo1> in iboy etc. 21:35 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@host86-136-24-157.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 21:35 < BleuLlama> well, the iboy people never sent back a patch to the devs for any work they did on the kernel. personally, i'd have thought the fix would be in the sound driver, not the kernel 21:36 < kevipapo1> well, we fixed it in the kernel 21:36 < Chinaski1> BleuLlama,what player application do you suggest?, is it possible to have the music always playing while doing something else,like using file browser 21:36 < kevipapo1> it doesn't only work for iboy, it works for idarcnes, igpsp 21:36 < kevipapo1> no playing music while doing something else unfortunately 21:36 < kevipapo1> just use apple os 21:37 < Chinaski1> k 21:37 < kevipapo1> also, the lava kernel might work w/ modules, but I'm not sure 21:37 < BleuLlama> why not just use that kernel then. it should work with mpd, if it's a proper linux kernel 21:38 < kevipapo1> i do use it, and so does almost every other 5g owner 21:38 < BleuLlama> then what's the issue? 21:38 < kevipapo1> sill, the kernel doesn't fix the fact that mpd is slow on 5g ipods 21:38 < BleuLlama> it's apparently not been integrated into the main kernel 21:38 < kevipapo1> it was integrated into the main kernel 21:38 < kevipapo1> wait, no it wasn't 21:39 < kevipapo1> sorry 21:39 < BleuLlama> slow? it plays music just fine. up to 320k MP3 21:39 < kevipapo1> you use a 5g? 21:39 < BleuLlama> yep. 5.5 21:39 < BleuLlama> courtc uses it on his nano 21:39 < kevipapo1> well, I still use apple os 21:39 < kevipapo1> nano comes w/ mpd all prepped up for you 21:40 < Chinaski1> what about the video player? i read that with ipod linux is possible to play simple avi files.i can't do this. the official support page does not help http://ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 21:40 < kevipapo1> well, if you use the avi method the videos are uncompressed, causing large files 21:40 < BleuLlama> the videos need to be converted for the movie player. it will not play compressed 21:40 < kevipapo1> better to use mv player 21:40 < kevipapo1> can be found on the ilaunch wiki page 21:40 < kevipapo1> http://www.ipodlinux.org/ilaunch 21:41 -!- tbr281 [n=Tibi@dhcp-097.sdfree.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Nice Scotty, now beam my clothes up too!"] 21:41 < Chinaski1> i compressed videos with mencoder method explained there, it did not work 21:41 < kevipapo1> videos for mv_player must be in .mvpd format 21:41 < kevipapo1> you can use something like mopid 21:42 < kevipapo1> http://ipodlinux.org/Mv_player 21:42 < kevipapo1> the converting methods can be found there 21:42 < Chinaski1> k i'll try thanks 21:42 < kevipapo1> sure, no problem 21:46 -!- Spoil3r [i=Spoil3r@87-143-131.netrun.cytanet.com.cy] has quit [] 21:48 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [" reboot"] 21:49 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 21:59 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:59 -!- Rprp [n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 22:09 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has joined #ipodlinux 22:10 < Chinaski1> i cannot read txt files 22:11 < Chinaski1> what's the problem? 22:11 < Chinaski1> podzilla 2 22:11 < Chinaski1> on the site it's written it's anexperimental version 22:12 < BleuLlama> do you have the file browser installed? 22:12 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 < Chinaski1> yes 22:14 < BleuLlama> then you should be able to just navigate to the .txt file and launch it 22:14 < Chinaski1> i can't 22:15 < Chinaski1> i cant launch 22:15 < Chinaski1> the file 22:15 < BleuLlama> press and hold the center button. 22:16 < Chinaski1> k 22:16 < Chinaski1> thanks 22:16 < BleuLlama> you didn't try that already? 22:16 < Chinaski1> no 22:16 < Chinaski1> cool 22:16 < BleuLlama> i was expecting a "what do you think i am, stupid"... 22:17 < BleuLlama> try checking through the docs and wiki first next time 22:17 < Chinaski1> for the video should go the same 22:17 < Chinaski1> ? 22:17 < Chinaski1> for the compressed avi's 22:17 < BleuLlama> you cannot play compressed avis 22:18 < Chinaski1> uncompressed 22:22 < DataGhost> hm BleuLlama we lost mantis for installer, right? 22:25 < Chinaski1> is it possible to install a new kernel simply copying a new lib folder to root folder? 22:26 < kick52> i thought you could snap in a new kernel easily by sticking it on the root folder.. 22:27 < kick52> though don't count on me, i'm not the most knowledgeable 22:27 < DataGhost> I don't have any idea what the lib folder would be used for, except for modules 22:27 < Chinaski1> maybe the uclinux 2.4.24 does not support video playback...maybe i need to install a newer kernel 22:27 < DataGhost> and I'm not even sure if there are any modules (except serial?) 22:28 < DataGhost> oh it does support video playback as far as I know 22:28 < Chinaski1> i have a photo ipod with uclinux 2.4.24 and podzilla 2 22:29 < Chinaski1> so the reason why i can't play video files is podzilla2 22:29 -!- davina [n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:29 < Chinaski1> ? 22:30 < DataGhost> not sure, I don't play videos in Linux 22:31 < DataGhost> I think there are quite a few forum topics on that 22:31 < DataGhost> maybe even wikipages. read them 22:34 < BleuLlama> mantis? 22:35 < DataGhost> bug tracker 22:35 < BleuLlama> Chinaski1: lib folder is for podzilla2 modules, not the kernel 22:35 < DataGhost> but never mind. I had a look at the code and I'm not even sure if I want to fix it 22:35 < BleuLlama> ah. i don't know what's in place now 22:35 < DataGhost> :P 22:35 < BleuLlama> yeah. installer is a bit of a mess. that's why i never recommend using it 22:35 < DataGhost> I might want to familiarize myself a bit more with it 22:35 < BleuLlama> people put too much faith in it, then complain when it doesn't work 22:35 < DataGhost> and it's C++, which is somewhat different from C 22:36 < Chinaski1> what to do to install a newer kernel? 22:36 < DataGhost> I don't really have any good C++ book :( 22:36 < BleuLlama> Chinaski1: copy it over. 22:36 < DataGhost> hm someone recommended a free e-book though 22:36 < DataGhost> *searches chatlogs* 22:36 < BleuLlama> sorry to be blunt, but if you don't know which file or files on your ipod are "the kernel", you might want to read up a bit on how linux works first 22:37 < BleuLlama> the goal of this project is not to let people play doom on their ipods, its to learn how it all works, and experiment with doing it yourself. 22:37 < BleuLlama> that's how i see it anyway 22:38 < BleuLlama> so, if you want to ask and get a step by step, i'm not the right person to ask 22:38 < Chinaski1> k 22:38 < Chinaski1> thanks anyway 22:38 < DataGhost> http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html weeeeee there we go 22:39 < BleuLlama> plus, you should do some footwork. otherwise, we're spending all of our time answering the same user questions rather than improving the project 22:39 < DataGhost> heh BleuLlama I was actually thinking of something today, while reading userfriendly 22:39 < BleuLlama> yeah? 22:39 < DataGhost> they have nag strips nowadays (animated GIF, changes to the real strip after 30 sec :P) 22:39 < BleuLlama> i'm unfamilair with that book. try it though. :) 22:39 < DataGhost> nag message in iPL 'I am not a guru, I just installed this using some automated thing and I just want to show off' 22:39 < DataGhost> when it's booting iPL or doom or whatever :P 22:40 < BleuLlama> heh 22:40 < BleuLlama> that's... heh. 22:40 < Chinaski1> maybe a total newbie guide to put in the wiki could be useful .... 22:40 < BleuLlama> it's evil, but i actually kinda like it 22:40 < DataGhost> anyway another student recommended that book.. and it's free and it's online :) 22:40 < DataGhost> Chinaski1 we have almost more newbie guides than newbies 22:40 < BleuLlama> Chinaski1: there already are plenty of them. stuff in the forums, on the wiki; if you want linux in general, use google to find something 22:41 < BleuLlama> DataGhost: i think i might change the podzilla2 module loading screen to something similar once svn is back up and running. heh 22:41 < DataGhost> (anyway users can easily take the nag screen out if they know how to compile stuff... that's basic enough :P) 22:41 < DataGhost> hehe 22:41 < DataGhost> and stock pz2 should have a 'newbie version' background 22:41 < DataGhost> white with light, big, not-so-obvious-but-visible letters :P 22:41 < BleuLlama> perhaps get bootsplash working on all ipods, and make it standard 22:43 < DataGhost> ouch. TICPP volume 1 and 2 are both just under 1MB... compressed 22:43 < DataGhost> harry potter 4 is just over 1MB, uncompressed :X 22:43 < DataGhost> and text compresses well.. argh! :P 22:46 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:47 < BleuLlama> on topic, please 23:03 -!- rage1 [n=rager@64.125.162.126] has joined #ipodlinux 23:11 -!- rage2 [n=rager@64.125.162.126] has joined #ipodlinux 23:13 < DataGhost> clones? 23:14 -!- casperzshado [n=adam@c-24-1-112-255.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:18 < casperzshado> ok having trouble installing linuxipod, i tried in windows but it, for some reason it couldnt detect my ipod, so now im in ubuntu, but i have no idea where to start, anyone know what i do, and where is step one? 23:21 -!- rager [n=rager@72.54.14.141] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:25 -!- rage1 [n=rager@64.125.162.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:37 -!- chrisjs169 [n=jack@unaffiliated/chrisjs169] has joined #ipodlinux 23:53 < sebajosh> What type of iPod do you have? 23:57 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.205.246] has quit [] 23:59 -!- cdm [n=cdm@pool-71-116-92-149.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Mon Sep 03 00:00:01 2007