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01:30 < philroboman> hey, who here has gotten MPD to work?(the module)
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01:46 < Paps> Fuck!
01:47 < Paps> Some songs I can add to my iPod nano after installing iPodlinux
01:47 < Paps> (first generation)
01:47 < Paps> but i drag some and it doesn't really cop
01:47 < Paps> *copy 
01:47 < philroboman> using itunes?
01:47 < Paps> yes
01:47 < philroboman> or linux
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01:47 < philroboman> ?
01:47 < philroboman> ok
01:47 < Paps> windows
01:48 < philroboman> do you always eject your ipod?
01:48 < Paps> yes
01:48 < philroboman> hmm
01:49 < philroboman> do you use podzilla0 or podzilla2?
01:49 < Paps> 2
01:50 < philroboman> i assume you have it on manually move music over,  is it not showing up on your ipod or is it not playing?
01:51 < Paps> in itunes
01:51 < Paps> some songs copy
01:51 < Paps> most don't at all
01:51 < Paps> space is not the issue
01:51 < Paps> i have 20-something
01:51 < Paps> it used to be 500-something before i decided to use ipodlinux
01:52 < philroboman> 20-something what?
01:52 < Paps> songs
01:53 < philroboman> on the ipod?
01:53 < Paps> yes
01:53 < Paps> almost 3000 on the computer
01:53 < Paps> not set to auto sync with itunes
01:53 < philroboman> so they were deleted when you installed ipodlinux?
01:53 < Paps> yeah
01:53 < Paps> i updated the firmware first
01:53 < Paps> then installed ipodlinux
01:55 < philroboman> i suggest starting from scratch, and restoring your ipod, then try a different installer to add ipodlinux. 
01:55 < philroboman> that way your music will work at least
01:55 < Paps> so i should restore my ipod then add music or install ipodlinux first?
01:56 < philroboman> it shouldn't matter, but put your music back on first
01:56 < Paps> okk
01:56 < Paps> now how do i restore my ipod in itunes 6
01:57 < philroboman> in start... all programs... there should be one that says ipod
01:57 < philroboman> i would recommend getting 7
01:57 < Paps> fuck no.
01:57 < Paps> 7 takes forever.
01:57 < philroboman> ?
01:57 < philroboman> dial up?
01:57 < Paps> istupid album artwork
01:58 < Paps> and the gapless playback thing
01:58 < philroboman> works great on my machine
01:58 < Paps> it takes an hour for it to finish loading 3000 songs.
01:58 < Paps> mine's 2.8GHz 1GB RAM
01:58 < philroboman> so i take it you've tried?
01:58 < Paps> yes
01:59 < philroboman> btw it only does that once
01:59 < Paps> yea
01:59 < philroboman> after that no slow loading
02:00 < philroboman> http://miche.aqua-gero.com/nano/  this is the installer i use, works but you have to manually put a different bootloader on it
02:00 < philroboman> unles you like the << to load linux
02:00 < Paps> oh
02:00 < Paps> thanks for your help
02:00 < Paps> i'll be going now
02:00 < Paps> peace.
02:01 < philroboman> later
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02:10 < philroboman> again, has anyone gotten the MPD module to work on a nano?
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02:10 < will> Sorry, not me
02:10 < will> You wouldn't happen to know anything about device drivers, would you?
02:11 < philroboman> not much if any
02:11 < will> I wish serial would work on the 4g
02:11 < will> Is anyone still developing?
02:11 < philroboman> a few people
02:11 < philroboman> i'm trying to start
02:11 < will> I'd like to help, but I don't know who to contact
02:12 < philroboman> no one really, i gat all my stuff from the wiki pages
02:12 < will> Isn't there any coordination?
02:12 < philroboman> not that i'm aware
02:13 < will> What are you hoping to develo
02:13 < will> p
02:14 < philroboman> in the end im going to try and clean up the kernel a bit, and hopefully get the usb up as a host, if that's possible, and write a better gui
02:15 < philroboman> perhaps get the peizo working in podzilla
02:16 < will> well I would be interested in helping with some of the kernel work
02:16 < will> I'd have to learn a few things as I go, but I have experience with C
02:16 < philroboman> i'm just starting and really terrible at coding, so we'll be learning together
02:16 < philroboman> have you compiled a working kernel yet?
02:17 < philroboman> i got the old one to compile but not the new one
02:18 < will> I haven't started yet
02:19 < philroboman> ok
02:19 < philroboman> if you do decide to get started i'll help where i can 
02:20 < will> Sounds like a plan
02:21 < philroboman> what time zone are you in?
02:21 < will> central us
02:22 < philroboman> ok, i'm in est, so only an hour
02:23 < will> Serial on the 4g is my first big priority
02:23 < philroboman> ok
02:23 < will> which gen are you using?
02:23 < philroboman> i have a nano, and have limited acces to a 4g
02:23 < philroboman> so i can work on it wen i have it
02:24 < will> Alright, I should probably start by installing the loader and such
02:24 < philroboman> are you using linux?, or what?
02:24 < will> What type of experience do you have?
02:25 < will> dual boot ubuntu/xp
02:27 < philroboman> i have done some c here and there,  and my nano works good, i've compiled the kernel and i've helped some of the people work out issues.  i haven't done any low level stuff, but this is the project i hope to learn in, i have SuSE and XP on my machine,  so i won't know as much c as you but i'll keep up
02:28 < will> oh I'm not THAT experienced
02:29 < will> but this should be a nice starting project
02:29 < philroboman> it should, 
02:29 < philroboman> where do you want to start?
02:29 < will> might as well start at the heart
02:30 < will> what do you think
02:31 < philroboman> id say so, that's where i am, putting some time into getting a modded kenel to compile
02:31 < will> 2.4 or 2.6
02:31 < philroboman> 2.4.34 
02:31 < will> why not work on 2.6?
02:31 < philroboman> as opposed to the old 2.4.24
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02:32 < will> the "experimental" kernel
02:32 < philroboman> i don't know if the patches work on 2.6
02:32 < will> ah, that's a good point
02:33 < philroboman> how do you feel about using minix source instead of uclinix partches?
02:34 < will> i haven't looked into it.  what are the benefits?
02:35 < philroboman> i think that it might be easier to compile but i don't hink anyone has tried,  we would have to mod in all the drivers including ttk and hotdog, but it would be unique, and may work better(i don't know if it runs better on an ARM proc of not) but it's a thought
02:37 < will> hmm
02:38 < will> is it even ported to ARM?
02:38 < philroboman> i'm checking now
02:38 < will> doesn't look like it
02:39 < will> currently limited to x86
02:39 < will> with Xscale and PPC on the way
02:39 < philroboman> ok
02:39 < philroboman> we'll do uclinix then
02:40 < philroboman> it'll be easier to get help that way anyways
02:40 < will> yeah
02:41 < will> ok, easier to install loader2 from windows or nix?
02:41 < philroboman> um, i'd say linux, 
02:42 < philroboman> cause you have to hunt down one of the apps for windows
02:43 < will> alrighty
02:43 < will> have you looked through any of the kernel source?
02:43 < philroboman> some of it
02:43 < will> hardware.c?
02:44 < philroboman> no, not yet
02:44 < will> it's an interesting one
02:44 < will> specifies a lot of ipod specific hardware details
02:46 < philroboman> um, which folder is it in?
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02:47 < will> linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/hardware.c
02:48 < will> i have to reboot to linux
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02:48 < philroboman> ok
02:48 < will> could take a few
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02:59 < will> ahoy
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03:01 < philroboman> hey
03:03 < will> alright, I
03:03 < will> I'm starting to setup loader2
03:03 < philroboman> ok
03:14 < philroboman> did it install?
03:14 < will> i'm letting some updates finish
03:18 < philroboman> ok
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03:25 < will> well i altered and replaced the firmware
03:25 < philroboman> ok
03:26 < philroboman> does it boot?
03:26 < will> a folder shows up
03:26 < will> and it restarts
03:26 < philroboman> :P, that sucks
03:27 < philroboman> did you keep an unmodified firmware?
03:27 < will> should it automatically boot to apple's fw?
03:27 < will> yeah
03:27 < philroboman> then put that back on
03:28 < philroboman> you may have missed a cammand somewhere
03:31 < will> ah
03:34 < will> guess i'll have to reset
03:34 < philroboman> you may
03:35 < will> i know what i did
03:35 < will> damn sudo
03:37 < philroboman> oh
03:39 < philroboman> hey, i just found out about ipod diagnostics
03:39 < will> isn't that cool
03:40 < philroboman> reset and rewind and select
03:40 < will> i found it the other day
03:40 < philroboman> it's pretty cool
03:40 < philroboman> it says my battery is overcharged
03:41 < will> ha
03:41 < will> do i need itunes for the ipod restore tool?
03:42 < philroboman> yes
03:42 < philroboman> unless you don't have 7
03:42 < will> nuts
03:42 < philroboman> let me guess
03:42 < will> i just recently reinstalled xp after testing vista
03:42 < philroboman> windows?
03:43 < D|sToRt|oN> vista blows
03:43 < will> and i don't have any programs installed because i usually use ubuntu
03:43 < philroboman> so you don't have itunes
03:43 < will> yeah it does
03:43 < will> so i have to download itunes and wait for it to install
03:43 < philroboman> *cough ramhog**
03:43 < philroboman> it won't take to long
03:44 < D|sToRt|oN> next os after Xp is OSx 10.4.9 AMDVDM SSE 3.iso and Cross over for mac + as added security VM ware fusion for mac
03:44 < will> hmm
03:46 < D|sToRt|oN> Playing: "´ - - ¸¿-" (192kbps - 44kHz - Stereo)
03:46 < D|sToRt|oN> hmm
03:46 < will> alright restore is in progress
03:55 < will> same problem
03:55 < will> do you think using the precompiled make_fw is bad?
03:56 < philroboman> no, what cammand are you using to create the new firmware?
03:57 < will> ./make_fw -g photo -w -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin loader.bin
03:57 < will> that w is a v
03:59 < philroboman> um, you have a ourth gen ipod?
03:59 < philroboman> fourth*
03:59 < will> photo
03:59 < philroboman> ok,
03:59 < philroboman> that should work
04:00 < philroboman> and it's not?
04:00 < will> i get the error folder
04:00 < will> i did this:
04:00 < will> copied the existing firmware, extracted the apple_os, made the new firmware, wrote it back to the device, reset the ipod
04:02 < philroboman> hmm
04:03 < will> is it normal for the orig_firmware to be about 41MB
04:04 < philroboman> dd if=/dev/diskX skip=252 count=30000 of=orig_firmware.bin
04:04 < philroboman> that is your problem
04:04 < will> use 252?
04:04 < philroboman> yes
04:04 < philroboman> just checked the wiki
04:05 < will> ah, thanks
04:05 < philroboman> http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2v, if you have more issues
04:06 < will> that page is blank
04:07 < philroboman> oh
04:07 < philroboman> srry
04:07 < philroboman> http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2
04:07 < will> ha, thanks
04:08 < philroboman> copy paste :P (the v)
04:08 < will> aaah
04:09 < will> no, makes things worse
04:09 < will> now it won't extract the apple_os
04:09 < philroboman> hm
04:10 < philroboman> check for typos??, i mean, thats all i can think of now
04:10 < will> yeah i am
04:12 < will> oooh shit i see
04:12 < philroboman> hmm?
04:13 < will> when i restored it i used of=/dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sdb
04:13 < philroboman> oh
04:13 < will> it very clearly says not to do that
04:13 < philroboman> it's fine
04:13 < philroboman> now you know
04:14 < philroboman> i think i did that a couple times
04:14 < will> well it booted back to the ipod
04:14 < will> that must be good
04:14 < philroboman> no menu?
04:14 < will> no
04:15 < philroboman> witch image did you write?
04:15 < will> my_sw.bin
04:15 < philroboman> ok
04:15 < philroboman> did it reboot?
04:16 < will> yes
04:16 < will> directly to the ipod menu
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04:17 < philroboman> whitch loader did you download?
04:17 < will> load2
04:17 < will> *loader2
04:17 < D|sToRt|oN> i wanna hack my ipod deck it out ...
04:17 < will> with?
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04:18 < D|sToRt|oN> i got ipodzilla on my 30gb 5.5g
04:18 < D|sToRt|oN> thats it and it dont do nothing
04:18 < D|sToRt|oN> no functions
04:18 < D|sToRt|oN> just a gui
04:18 < will> because there's no connectivity
04:18 < philroboman> um, check to make sure you included loader.bin in the make_fw command
04:19 < D|sToRt|oN> ?
04:19 < will> i did
04:19 < philroboman> hmm, i don't know.
04:19 < will> i'll deal with this tomorrow
04:20 < will> later
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05:13 < philroboman> who's actually on?
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05:36 < BHSPitMonkey> Well
05:36 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm on tonight
05:36 < BHSPitMonkey> You know my hips don't lie and I'm starting to feel it's right
05:37 < daniel_was_here> o_o
05:39 < daniel_was_here> Did i miss something in the logs, or was that random?
05:40 < D|sToRt|oN> wrong chan?
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05:45 < daniel_was_here> Somehow, i don't want to know ;)
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06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> daniel_was_here, "<philroboman> who's actually on?"
06:16 < daniel_was_here> Oh, heh.
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15:36 < RvX> hello
15:37 < RvX> how long does it take to you to put the Apple's firmware to your iPod via dd if=blabla of=/dev/sdx seek=63 ?
15:38 < RvX> I have 3g 20 GB
15:39 < DerPapst> depends on the file size and whether you're using usb 1.X or 2.0 or firewire
15:39 < RvX> firewire, about 4 MB
15:39 < DerPapst> max a minute
15:39 < RvX> :O
15:40 < DerPapst> how long do you already wait?
15:40 < RvX> it is clicking for over 10 minutes
15:40 < DerPapst> oh
15:40 < RvX> what should I do? to abort it?
15:41 < DerPapst> are you installing the bootloader?
15:41 < RvX> nope
15:41 < DerPapst> what are you dd'ing to your ipod?
15:41 < RvX> I bought used HDD
15:42 < RvX> and I want to check if everything is ok with iPod
15:42 < DerPapst> is the partitionlayout correct?
15:43 < RvX> hmmm...
15:43 < DerPapst> so you have put a new hdd into the 3G iPod?
15:43 < RvX> yes, but the hdd is used ;)
15:44 < DerPapst> have you restored it with itunes or did any other things to it?
15:44 < RvX> http://ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes#Partition_Tables
15:44 < DerPapst> k
15:44 < RvX> I can't run iTunes via wine
15:44 < DerPapst> ok
15:44 < DerPapst> so you have done the fdisk parts already?
15:45 < RvX> from this link: I have set 1st, Empty partition: 1st: 1st cylinder, last: 10 cylinder
15:45 < RvX> fat32: first: 11 cylinder, last 19073 cylinder
15:46 < DerPapst> errm... you better use blocks
15:46 < DerPapst> and try to use block 1 to 5 as raw partition
15:47 < DerPapst> similar to the partitiontable from my 40GB 3G iPod.
15:47 < DerPapst> s/block/cluster
15:49 < RvX> I didn't get it, sorry. :(
15:49 < RvX> how do I use block 1 to 5 as raw partition in fdisk?
15:50 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes#Restore_the_MBR <-- as i've explained it here.
15:51 < RvX> do I have to abort process I have been running till now?
15:51 < RvX> (dd)
15:52 < DerPapst> Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-33, default 33): do enter 5 here
15:52 < RvX> ok
15:52 < DerPapst> i think yes.
15:53 < D|sToRt|oN> how do i get my ipod to been seen in a VMWARE other linux OS ?
15:53 < RvX> ooh, it says 4162560 bytes (4.2 MB) copied, 1885.4 s, 2.2 kB/s
15:53 < DerPapst> heh
15:54 < DerPapst> well then test it before messing again with fdisk
15:54 < RvX> folder with !
15:54 < RvX> bad
15:55 < DerPapst> hmm..
15:56 < RvX> so, from the beginning..
15:57 < RvX> The nnumber of cylinders for this disk is set to 19073
15:57 < RvX> (form fdsik)
15:57 < RvX> fdisk*
15:57 < RvX> I delete all (2) partitions
15:58 < RvX> done
15:58 < RvX> I create new, primary partition: first cylinder 1, last 5
15:58 < DerPapst> yupp
15:58 < RvX> right?
15:59 < RvX> ok
16:00 < RvX> setting all as previously.. are these 2 partition to be active?
16:00 < RvX> or only 1st, with Empty type has to be?
16:01 < DerPapst> i think only one has to be active..
16:02 < DerPapst> and type ß
16:02 < DerPapst> *0
16:02 < RvX> yes, already done
16:02 < DerPapst> partition 2 has to be fat32 which means type b
16:02 < RvX> 1st is 5104 blocks, Id:0, System:Empty
16:02 < RvX> yes, I have done it also
16:03 < RvX> does 1st one look ok?
16:03 < DerPapst> wait a sec...
16:03 < RvX> ok
16:04 < DerPapst> it has to be 40131 blocks i think.
16:04 < RvX> well, if it stars on 1st cylinder and ends on 5th, it is 5104
16:05 < DerPapst> odd...
16:05  * DerPapst searches his 2nd 3G iPod
16:05 < RvX> (but I have 19073 cylinders)
16:06 < DerPapst> maybe a mistake in the partitiontable then...
16:06 < DerPapst> but cylinder 1 to 5 should be ok
16:07 < RvX> hum, so should I write this table?
16:07 < DerPapst> how does it look now?
16:08 < DerPapst> pastebin.ca should be good
16:08 < RvX> xterm doesn't do copy and paste, I think :(
16:09 < DerPapst> you're using something else than fdisk?
16:09 < RvX> oh, I have cfdisk also
16:09 < DerPapst> no no fdisk is fine
16:09 < DerPapst> i just wondered what xterm is.. 
16:10 < RvX> it is terminal
16:10 < DerPapst> and it doesn't support copy&paste?
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16:10 < DerPapst> that's odd
16:10 < DerPapst> ^^
16:11 < RvX> got it :)
16:11 < DerPapst> btw.. you are loged in as root? or at least using sudo ...
16:11 < DerPapst> nice :)
16:11 < RvX> yep, I'm on root account
16:12 < DerPapst> k
16:13 < RvX> http://pastebin.ca/632089
16:15 < DerPapst> errmm.. there is something else that's not ok
16:15 < DerPapst> your fdisk uses another unit 
16:17 < DerPapst> dunno how to change it though
16:18 < DerPapst> the firmaree partition has to be ~5MB
16:18 < RvX> last time it was 10.49 MB
16:19 < RvX> 1 cylinder is about 1 MB
16:19 < RvX> at my disk
16:20 < DerPapst> well then it should be ok...
16:21 < DerPapst> infact i think your partitiontable should look exactly like the one of the 4G 20GB one on that page
16:21  * DerPapst is pretty sure he misses something.
16:27 < RvX> I have nothing to loose. Formatting...
16:29 < DerPapst> heh
16:34 < RvX> I don't know why dd command takes soooooo looong to finish. :(
16:35 < RvX> I have iPod connected to Firewire card via dock
16:36 < DerPapst> don't know either
16:36 < RvX> as you have seen, the transfter was 2.2 kB/s :|
16:37 < DerPapst> heh
16:39 < RvX> almost 34 minutes to copy firmware at that rate
16:39 < DerPapst> it never took me that long.
16:40 < DerPapst> are you sure the harddrive is ok?
16:40 < RvX> but as to the hard drive, formatting process took 1 minute
16:40 < RvX> I am not sure if HDD is ok
16:41 < RvX> I have tested it before everything and it printed: "READ FAIL" 
16:41 < DerPapst> in diagnostic mode?
16:41 < RvX> yes
16:44 < RvX> Exactly it was: "HDD FAIL; 0X00000070; READ FAIL"
16:44 < DerPapst> sounds not so good eh?
16:44 < RvX> unfortunately..
16:45 < DerPapst> but still somehow i still don't like your partition layout.
16:45 < DerPapst> does the hdd make strange noises?
16:47 < RvX> when it starts - no, now it do something similar to the floppy while reading from diskette 
16:47 < RvX> tic-tac tic-tac
16:48 < RvX> it does*
16:48 < DerPapst> hmmm...
16:49 < RvX> have you been ever testing your iPod's HDD with external software?
16:49 < DerPapst> try to create a really big firmware partition. e.g. 1/2 firmware and 1/2 fat32
16:49 < D|sToRt|oN> is there any way to get my ipod to bee seen in a Guest OS called PClinuxOS 2007 running in VMWARE ?
16:49 < DerPapst> to make sure it's not because the firmware partition is too small
16:50 < RvX> but so far, I have to wait for dd process to finish
16:51 < RvX> about 13 minutes to go
16:51 < DerPapst> k... i don't know if ipodpatcher sees your ipod if it doesn't contain the apple copyright.
16:51 < DerPapst> otherwise you can try ipodpatcher as well
16:51 < DerPapst> how is your exact dd command?
16:52 < D|sToRt|oN> Ipodinstaller2 will not work with a 5.5g 30gb for future reference
16:52 < RvX> dd if=/home/rvx/Desktop/iPod_2.2.3/Firmware-2.2.3 of=/dev/sdb1
16:52 < DerPapst> k...
16:52 < DerPapst> looks correct
16:53 < DerPapst> and if you do ... of=/dev/sdb seek=63 ?
16:53 < D|sToRt|oN> any one know how to install modules in Ipodlinux such as "File browser" ?
16:54 < D|sToRt|oN> sorry to interupt your convo .....
16:54 < RvX> it did it last time, but it will probably take the same time to finish
16:54 < DerPapst> you could try ipodpatcher next time though.
16:55 < DerPapst> D|sToRt|oN: it's documented on the wiki. modules go to /usr/lib on the ext partition
16:57 < D|sToRt|oN> im trying to get my ipod to be seen in Linux ..... i have windows atm ive installed PClinuxOS in Vmware but i know nothing of linux so once im in linux im lost
16:58 < D|sToRt|oN> modules go to /usr/lib on the ext partition <----- for example im lost with this instruction now if it was C:/usr/lib i would know
16:58 < DerPapst> heh
16:58 < DerPapst> i for example know nothing about VMs
16:58 < DerPapst> s/VMs/vmware
16:59 < DerPapst> so i can't tell you if your ipod is recognized by PClinux or not.
16:59 < DerPapst> infact i don't even know this linux distribution
17:00 < D|sToRt|oN> so when i boot in to linux i put that in terminal and press enter ill restart this Computer and run a live distro if u tell me what to do once im in linux ill write it down tell me just how to access the ipod , with out vmware
17:00 < DerPapst> you can check if it detects the ipod in vmware first though
17:01 < D|sToRt|oN> how
17:01 < DerPapst> open the terminal
17:01 < DerPapst> and connect your ipod
17:03 < RvX> and type: ls /dev
17:03 < D|sToRt|oN> ok \
17:04 < D|sToRt|oN> it detected it
17:04 < D|sToRt|oN> new medium 32mb removeable device
17:05 < D|sToRt|oN> i can brows the drive
17:05 < D|sToRt|oN> dame i wonder why i wouldnt work last nite
17:06 < RvX> DerPapst: it finished writing
17:07 < DerPapst> D|sToRt|oN: and where is it mounted?
17:08 < D|sToRt|oN> modules go to /usr/lib on the ext partition
17:08 < D|sToRt|oN> ops
17:08 < D|sToRt|oN> dame
17:08 < D|sToRt|oN> sec
17:09 < D|sToRt|oN> system:media/sdb3
17:09 < DerPapst> k
17:10 < DerPapst> so that should be already the linux files... correct?
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17:11 < setuid> I'm trying to get the latest Windows or Linux x86 installer to load on my 4G ipod, and it keeps failing on both systems.
17:11 < D|sToRt|oN> yea
17:11 < D|sToRt|oN> im in /usr/lib
17:11 < D|sToRt|oN> i see bluecube and clocks
17:11 < D|sToRt|oN> i copy a folder called Filebrowser into there ?
17:12 < D|sToRt|oN> im trying to guess so i dont waste all your time :)
17:12 < RvX> DerPapst: it showed Folder with ! :(
17:12 < RvX> so, should I use ipodpatcher now?
17:13 < setuid> I guess this doesn't work on anything but 5G ipods
17:14 < DerPapst> RvX: make sure first that the firmware partition isn't too small
17:14 < D|sToRt|oN> it will work on every thing except a 5.5g i thought
17:14 < D|sToRt|oN> setuid
17:14 < DerPapst> e.g. use half the disk size as firmware partition and the other half as fat32 partition
17:14 < D|sToRt|oN> can u search for songs on your Ipod ?
17:14 < RvX> ouch, ipodpatcher isn't even going to execute here :(
17:15 < RvX> so, I'll do it with fdisk
17:15 < DerPapst> D|sToRt|oN: yes. you drag and drop the modules foldrs in there
17:16 < setuid> I blow away the iPod on Windows, using the iTunes "Restore" utility
17:16 < DerPapst> ipodpatcher is only for installing the bootloader and copying the fromware on your ipod.
17:16 < setuid> Then I close iTunes, and try the ipodLinux installer (netless or non), and it fails at random places in the installation
17:16 < RvX> DerPapst: ok
17:19 < D|sToRt|oN> http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4984/woodx9.jpg
17:20 < RvX> as to my firewire: I have tried gtkpod to transfer some mp3 to iPod (just after dd) and it copied them very fast
17:21 < DerPapst> hmm..
17:21 < DerPapst> odd...
17:21 < D|sToRt|oN> why is it access denied
17:21 < DerPapst> maybe try out ipodpatcher instead of dd next time.
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17:21 < DerPapst> with ./ipodpatcher -w Firmware-2.2.3
17:22 < DerPapst> D|sToRt|oN: because you don't have enough rights to copy data to this device.
17:22 < RvX> DerPapst: it says Permission denied, even though I am trying to run it as root
17:22 < RvX> oh, I'll try
17:22 < DerPapst> you have to login as root in order to move files
17:22 < D|sToRt|oN> oh
17:23 < D|sToRt|oN> ty
17:24 < RvX> bash: ./ipodpatcher: Permissions denied :(
17:24 < RvX> I don't know what is with that
17:24  * DerPapst has written his first swf thingy that interacts with php :)
17:24 < DerPapst> RvX: is it executable?
17:24 < DerPapst> well
17:25 < DerPapst> if you're root it probably shoudl
17:25 < RvX> good :D
17:25 < RvX> chmod 777 ipodpacher
17:26 < RvX> it has just opened
17:26 < DerPapst> heh
17:27 < RvX> done :O
17:27 < RvX> firmware has been copied fast
17:27 < DerPapst> ipodpatcher deteced your iPod?
17:27 < RvX> yes :)
17:27 < DerPapst> nice
17:28 < DerPapst> now wait until the disk activity icon on your ipod stops spinning
17:28 < DerPapst> and then test... o.O
17:28 < RvX> may I load some music?
17:28 < RvX> (before)
17:29 < DerPapst> try so
17:29 < DerPapst> shouldn't really matter
17:31 < RvX> ;(
17:32 < RvX> folder with !
17:33 < RvX> how can I check disk for bad sectors on Linux?
17:33 < RvX> I don't know what else it may be
17:36 < D|sToRt|oN> man now linux wont mount the drive it says some shit like this The mount point `media/ipod' is already occupied ive reboot linux
17:36 < D|sToRt|oN> ithe ipod is in diskmode
17:36 < D|sToRt|oN> same as it was when i could brows the drive
17:36 < D|sToRt|oN> nothing has changed i dont get it
17:39 < D|sToRt|oN> all i did was log out and login as root
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17:46 < RvX> DerPapst: No idea? I'm lost now
17:49 < RvX> I have Hiren's Boot CD, but I don't know if any application will detect Firewire device
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18:28 < D|sToRt|oN> ok i got File browser on the Ipod and i see it right under settings in ipodlinux i got the IDOOM folder @ FAT32 G:\IDOOM
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18:45 < DerPapst> RvX: sorry i'm out of ideas as well.
18:45 < DerPapst> but the /!\ might have other issues besides a broken hdd 
18:46 < DerPapst> i think you should try a restore with itunes
18:46 < DerPapst> on a frends pc
18:46 < DerPapst> or another windows running pc
18:51 < RvX> ok, I'll ask my friend for that
18:52 < RvX> thanks for all, you were very patient :)
18:53 < DerPapst> np ;)
18:54 < D|sToRt|oN> i pit the Idoom foler in /hp/idoom and when selecting file browser in ipod linux i get this ===================== and nothing below ..
18:54 < D|sToRt|oN> thats the best way to put that into words ..
18:54 < DerPapst> huh?
18:55 < DerPapst> btw.. you dont put stuff into /hp/
18:55 < DerPapst> hp is a symlink that points to your iPofs fat32 partition
18:56 < D|sToRt|oN> oh well i got that out of watching this video .... http://ipodlinux.org/images/d/d2/Doom_video.tgz over n over
18:57 < DerPapst> heh
18:57 < D|sToRt|oN> trying to collect clues on where to put idoom be cause this documetation is so breif http://ipodlinux.org/Doom
18:58 < DerPapst> it is brief indeed. not the best wording too.
18:58 < D|sToRt|oN> so if u know what im trying to figure out its pretty simple were do i put the folder IDOOM in the linux partiton or the fat32
18:58 < DerPapst> but it is enough to understand what you've to do.
18:59 < DerPapst> you can put it wherever you want.
18:59 < DerPapst> doesn't really matter
18:59 < D|sToRt|oN> ive put the Idoom folder on the fat32 here G:\Idoom and i get nothing in file browser
18:59 < DerPapst> but i think it would be easier for you to put it on the fat32 partition
18:59 < D|sToRt|oN> ive put it in HP ive put it in the root dir of the linux partiton
19:00 < DerPapst> if you select filebrowser withing pz2 what exaclty happens?
19:00 < D|sToRt|oN> and nothing
19:00 < D|sToRt|oN> i select file browser the menu changes slightly with this ====================
19:00 < D|sToRt|oN> Extra
19:00 < D|sToRt|oN> setting
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> s
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> file browser
19:01 < DerPapst> ahh ok
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> =========================
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> blank
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> blank
19:01 < DerPapst> you have your vmware still running?
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> yes
19:01 < DerPapst> go to /usr/share/schemes
19:01 < D|sToRt|oN> 1 sec
19:01 < DerPapst> on your ipods ext partition
19:06 < D|sToRt|oN> im haveing a problem getting Linux to remount after disconnecting the ipod
19:06 < D|sToRt|oN> ^^
19:12 < D|sToRt|oN> i remove the device safely every time and i get crap it reminds me why i still use windows thats all and windows reminds me why there really is no perfect OC at least windows is some what intelligent
19:14 < D|sToRt|oN> the MOUNT POINT MEIDIA/IPOD is already Occupied
19:14 < D|sToRt|oN> fuck linux
19:14 < D|sToRt|oN> im irritated derpapst im done for rite now im punch me monitor .....
19:15 < D|sToRt|oN> my
19:15 < DerPapst> sorry was afk
19:16 < DerPapst> seems like somehow your ipod is already mounted
19:17 < D|sToRt|oN> yea and i rebooted the VMware
19:20 < D|sToRt|oN> . /usr/share/schemes dose not egsist
19:21 < D|sToRt|oN> in side /share/
19:21 < DerPapst> that is your problem then
19:21 < DerPapst> it should exist and it shoudl include some files.
19:21 < DerPapst> wait a sec....
19:22 < DerPapst> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/appearance-1262.zip
19:22 < DerPapst> download that
19:22 < DerPapst> it's content goes to /usr/share
19:23 < DerPapst> it should include a font and a scheme directory
19:23 < D|sToRt|oN> k
19:25 < D|sToRt|oN> im rebooting the VMWARE ipod unpluged once more
19:30 < D|sToRt|oN> to no avil ! :(
19:30 < DerPapst> open the terminal
19:31 < DerPapst> type in:
19:31 < D|sToRt|oN> keep ipod pluged in
19:31 < DerPapst> mount
19:31 < DerPapst> does anything look like a n ipod?
19:31 < DerPapst> yes
19:32 < D|sToRt|oN> the ipod is detected
19:32 < D|sToRt|oN> i just cannot mount the partitons
19:33 < DerPapst> where is it?
19:33 < D|sToRt|oN> says there already mounted in System:media - konquer
19:34 < DerPapst> and is it there or not?
19:34 < D|sToRt|oN> the IPOD is
19:34 < D|sToRt|oN> yes
19:34 < D|sToRt|oN> but i cant brows
19:34 < DerPapst> well then mount the other partitions manually
19:34 < D|sToRt|oN> i get this pop up MOUNT POINT MEIDIA/IPOD is already Occupied
19:35 < DerPapst> with manually i mean via the terminal
19:36 < D|sToRt|oN> ok
19:36 < D|sToRt|oN> whats the command
19:36 < D|sToRt|oN> http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4836/newbitmapimagepc8.jpg
19:38 < DerPapst> do you have the terminal open?
19:38 < D|sToRt|oN> yes
19:38 < DerPapst> type in:
19:38 < DerPapst> mount
19:38 < D|sToRt|oN> k
19:38 < DerPapst> where does it list the iPod?
19:38 < DerPapst> something like /dev/blabla
19:39 < DerPapst> brb
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19:40 < root_> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
19:40 < root_> none on /proc type proc (rw)
19:40 < root_> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
19:40 < root_> none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
19:40 < root_> /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw)
19:40 < root_> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
19:40 < root_> it says that 
19:40 < D|sToRt|oN> root is me on nix
19:42 < DerPapst> k
19:43 < DerPapst> can't see your ipod there
19:44 < DerPapst> where does media/ipod point to?
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19:45 < root_> thats just it i cant mount the media 
19:45 < root_> i can only see the device 
19:45 < DerPapst> i know
19:45 < DerPapst> and i want to know where the device is
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19:46 < DerPapst> so i can help you mounting it
19:46 < BleuLlama> DerPapst!
19:46 < DerPapst> BleuLlama :D
19:46 < BleuLlama> :D
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19:46 < DerPapst> o.O?
19:46 < root_> look /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
19:46 < root_> none on /proc type proc (rw)
19:46 < root_> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
19:46 < root_> none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
19:46 < root_> /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw)
19:46 < root_> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
19:46 < root_>   this is what i get when i right click ad then left click on mount
19:46 < root_> dame
19:46 < root_> no thats not it
19:47 < DerPapst> thought so :P
19:47 < D|sToRt|oN> http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4836/newbitmapimagepc8.jpg
19:47 < D|sToRt|oN> that happend be cause im swaping from windows to linux
19:48 < DerPapst> what is the device called HACKED?
19:48 < root_> yea
19:48 < root_> ^^
19:48 < DerPapst> usb stick?
19:49 < root_> the 32mb removeable is the linux partion on the ipod 
19:49 < DerPapst> and what is HACKED?
19:49 < DerPapst> the ipods fat32 partition?
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19:49 < BleuLlama> DerPapst?
19:50 < root_> i guessing the windows fat32
19:50 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: yes?
19:50 < BleuLlama> yes.
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19:50  * DerPapst is confused
19:50 < root_> derpapst thank you btw
19:50 < root_> me 2
19:50 < root_> Ituned names it hacked ....
19:50 < root_> tunes
19:51 < DerPapst> that is at least a starting point.
19:51 < DerPapst> so HACKED is your iPods fat32 partition?
19:51 < root_> yea
19:51 < DerPapst> goood
19:51 < root_> 32mb is the linux
19:51 < root_> but i cant mount them 
19:51 < root_> :S
19:51 < DerPapst> where does it pint to? sould be something like /dev/sdXN
19:52 < root_> how do i find it
19:52 < DerPapst> right clich it and then prop...thing
19:52 < DerPapst> properties
19:52 < DerPapst> or so
19:53 < D|sToRt|oN> VMWARE just froze OMG
19:53 < DerPapst> lol
19:53 < root_> wait no 
19:53 < root_> lol
19:53  * DerPapst removes lol
19:53 < root_> <--- i feel like a moron 
19:54 < DerPapst> heh
19:55 < DerPapst> god... 
19:55  * DerPapst is too stupid for mysql
19:56 < DerPapst> i can't even create a samll database :-/
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19:57 < D|sToRt|oN> i give up im formating Linux reinstall that will fix this Shit
19:57 < D|sToRt|oN> yo i cant figure out how to make a webserver
19:58 < DerPapst> i've used xampp because it's pretty simple
19:58 < DerPapst> i probably would fail at that step too
19:59 < D|sToRt|oN> u try Plask ?
19:59 < D|sToRt|oN> a C-pannel
19:59 < DerPapst> the only thing i would get running is apache. and nothing more ^^
19:59 < DerPapst> dunno what that is :P
19:59 < D|sToRt|oN> supposed to be the easiest C-pannel for Windows if thats what ya server runs
19:59 < D|sToRt|oN> google ...
20:00 < D|sToRt|oN> its like an organizer for ur webserver
20:00 < D|sToRt|oN> like apache
20:01 < DerPapst> ah.
20:04 < HardDisk_WP> does anyone know a Linux program that takes a avi file, looks at its size/aspect ratio and convert it to iPod/MP4?
20:04 < DerPapst> vlc
20:05 < HardDisk_WP> i always come in huge problems with the rotten aspect ratio :X
20:05 < DerPapst> the rockbox mpegplayer plugin wiki page lists some linux tools for video conversation
20:05 < HardDisk_WP> i TELL him it's a 16:9 movie, I enable it even in iPod, but noo, it takes it as a 4:3 *runs crazy...*
20:05 < DerPapst> hehe
20:07 < HardDisk_WP> movies on iPod are an adventure, especially because i cant even convert them with iTunes - it refuses to import 'em
20:08 < D|sToRt|oN> an ipod can be hooked up to a TV for movie play back rite ?
20:08 < HardDisk_WP> yes
20:08 < HardDisk_WP> also for photo diashow
20:11 < D|sToRt|oN> cool im gonna have to look into that
20:12 < HardDisk_WP> you need apple os for that
20:12 < D|sToRt|oN> i could hella rent my ipod out with 30gb of movies on it
20:12 < HardDisk_WP> afair linux doesnt support tv out
20:12  * HardDisk_WP has 80gb
20:12 < D|sToRt|oN> nice
20:12 < HardDisk_WP> i drive in holidays, 6 weeks w/o PC
20:12 < HardDisk_WP> and so I wanna fill up my iPod with porn and DVD rips to not be alone^^^
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20:14 < D|sToRt|oN> my arm gets tired of holding mine to watch a movie and wanking on it well the hand holding the bod bounces around to much to watch the screen be cause of the motion of the other hand Muhaha
20:14 < D|sToRt|oN> pod
20:14 < D|sToRt|oN> *
20:15 < HardDisk_WP> hehe :DD i solved that problem with a selfmade ipod holder ^^
20:15 < D|sToRt|oN> Rofl
20:16 < D|sToRt|oN> u know the lill black pouch u get with the ipod?
20:16 < HardDisk_WP> ?
20:17 < D|sToRt|oN> u cut the screen out of that + the click weel and Clued it to the Cover to a wall light swtich and then took a screw and screw that to my dash so i can control the ipod hands free
20:17 < D|sToRt|oN> glued*
20:18 < HardDisk_WP> lool
20:18 < D|sToRt|oN> light switch cover
20:28 < DerPapst> bah.. phpmyadmin.. wtf
20:29 < HardDisk_WP> better than cmdline mysql^^
20:29 < HardDisk_WP> gnah.
20:30 < HardDisk_WP> what a sh*t...
20:30 < HardDisk_WP> how can I detect which aspect ratio is correct? my dvds tell something about 16:9 and 2,35:1...
20:30 < DerPapst> i don't even get how to make some enties into the database in phpmyadmin
20:30 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, ich versuchs dir ma zu erklären
20:31 < HardDisk_WP> wähl mal im menü in der dropdown-box deine datenbank aus
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21:09 < DrBack> Hello. I have iPod nano 1st gen. I have tried the windows installer (installer 2) but i get an error while installing, saying that it has trouble downloading "kernel"-something and "YYMMDD"-something. The error-boxes during installation gives me oppertunity to press quit, but if i don't do, it will still finish and say the install was successfull. BUT: My iPod fails to boot in linux, the apple boot is ok. Any suggestions ?
21:11 < DerPapst> yes
21:11 < DerPapst> use the netless installer
21:11 < DerPapst> we have currently server problems
21:11 < DerPapst> so a few downloads aren't working
21:11 < DrBack> ok.
21:12 < DerPapst> e.g. the kernel, pz2 and a few others
21:12 < DrBack> netless installer ? i'll find it on the page, right ?
21:12 < DerPapst> yes.
21:12 < DrBack> what i really want to is to play videos on my ipod, and then i have to install the linux os first right ?
21:12 < D|sToRt|oN> yo derpapst im gonna try Fedora Core6 for what we was trying to do ..
21:12 < DerPapst> either iPodLinux or RockBox
21:13 < DrBack> what do you recommend, whats the easiest to use and install ?
21:13 < DrBack> (if you can recommend)
21:13 < DerPapst> easiest to install is rockbox
21:13 < DerPapst> and it supports mpeg 1 and 2
21:13 < DrBack> ok,
21:13 < DerPapst> iPL has it's own video format.
21:13 < DrBack> ok,
21:14 < DrBack> then i think i will try rockbox.
21:14 < DrBack> also to find on the web ipodlinux.org ?
21:14 < DerPapst> but the drawback of rockbox' mpegplayer is that it can't seek yet.
21:14 < DerPapst> nope.
21:14 < DerPapst> rockbox.org
21:14 < DrBack> hmm, but it can pause , right ?
21:15 < DerPapst> dunno. but i guess yes.
21:15 < DerPapst> i don't have a target where it runs smooth enough
21:15 < DerPapst> so i have never used it.
21:15 < DrBack> ok.
21:15 < DerPapst> i only have a 3G and 5.5G iPod.
21:15 < DrBack> oki
21:15 < DrBack> i'll thank you for your advice, i'll try rockbox
21:15 < DrBack>  :)
21:16 < DerPapst> 3G -> b&w and 5.5G has a too large screen :P
21:16 < D|sToRt|oN> derpapst what Ipodlinux installer did you use for your 5.5g may be i should use the same one
21:16 < DrBack> hehe.
21:16 < DerPapst> but afaik it runs pretty nice on nanos because of their small screen
21:17 < DerPapst> D|sToRt|oN: i've installed iPl manually.
21:17 < D|sToRt|oN> oh
21:17 < D|sToRt|oN> so u did it all from scrach
21:17 < DerPapst> jupp.
21:17 < DerPapst> it isn't that hard though
21:19 < D|sToRt|oN> u think it be easier for u to help if i made remote desktop connection in linux and let u have control ?
21:20 < DerPapst> heh...
21:20 < DerPapst> it would be at least faster i guess
21:22 < D|sToRt|oN> ok fedora core 6 is installing hopefully it will mount the ipod correctly n not be gey
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21:27 < DrBack> DerPapst: the rockbox will not allow me to play .avi files, right '+
21:27 < DrBack> err: ?..
21:28 < DerPapst> you'll have to convert them to mpeg 2 in the resolution of your nanos screen
21:28 < DerPapst> but you have to do the same for iPLs video player
21:28 < DrBack> ok :) thx
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22:05 < bismuth> hi, I would like to grab the latest nightly built kernel, but that link seems to be dead : http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/
22:05 < bismuth> any ideas where I could find it ?
22:06 < DerPapst> yes.
22:06 < DerPapst> i've added a link on the downloads wiki page
22:08 < bismuth> ok thanks
22:08 < DerPapst> np :)
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22:17 < DrBack> DerPapst - i got it to work. thank you a lot :)
22:17 < DerPapst> nice :)
22:17 < DerPapst> have fun ;)
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22:23 < D|sToRt|oN> CPU Load: 64%
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22:49 < D|sToRt|oN> Derpapst u burnt out ? cuzz i can now put the Idoom file in /usr/share/scemes
22:50 < D|sToRt|oN> if thats wot im to do
22:54 < DerPapst> no
22:55 < DerPapst> you don't put doom there
22:55 < DerPapst> you put schemes there
22:56 < D|sToRt|oN> i was just reading the irc log
22:56 < D|sToRt|oN> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/appearance-1262.zip
22:57 < DerPapst> this zip should contain a dir  alled fonts and another one called schemes
22:57 < DerPapst> they got to /usr/share
22:58 < root__> ok ill extract it there 
22:59 < root__> the whole folder or just the Files ?
23:00 < root__> Extract to : media:/sdb3/usr/share/schemes Ark is asking if i want to over write
23:00 < DerPapst> yes.
23:00 < DerPapst> you want
23:00 < root__> k
23:00 < root__> done
23:00 < DerPapst> now put doom somewhere on your fat32 partitioin
23:03 < root__> done
23:03 < DerPapst> now you should be able to use the filebrowser
23:04 < root__> dude after i get this thing all hacked any way to back it up ?
23:04 < root__> thanks man 
23:04 < root__> u have patience
23:06 < DerPapst> :)
23:06 < root__> i think im gonna need a camera 
23:06 < root__> file browser is still blank i meant it seems to work just nothing there to brows 
23:06 < DerPapst> for what?
23:07 < root__> so i can take a pic of the ipod screen 
23:07 < DerPapst> odd
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23:07 < DerPapst> can you go to settings?
23:07 < root__> yea
23:08 < DerPapst> and then apperiance
23:08 < DerPapst> > scheme 0or so
23:09 < root__> color scheme > 
23:09 < root__> ?
23:09 < DerPapst> yes
23:09 < DerPapst> select another one
23:09 < root__> familiar 
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23:09 < DerPapst> once you have selected another one try the filebrowser again
23:10 < root__> i think i got it 
23:10 < root__> file browser Execute delete
23:11 < DerPapst> browse to the idoom binary
23:11 < DerPapst> hold down senter and select Execute > Open VT
23:11 < DerPapst> *center
23:12 < root__> ok b4 we did any thing i was not holding down the ceter button on file browser 
23:13 < root__> now  it wont do what i just did 
23:14 < root__> :S
23:14 < root__> ipod froze now
23:14 < DerPapst> heh...
23:15 < root__> from holding down the button over file browser
23:15 < DerPapst> amyways.... 1:20 am here
23:15 < root__> ight man thnks 
23:15 < root__> i owe ya one
23:15 < DerPapst> no you don't hold center on the filebrowser
23:15 < DerPapst> you browse to the idoom binary
23:15 < DerPapst> then hold down senter
23:15 < root__> ok
23:16 < DerPapst> then relese it and then you get some choises
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23:18 < root__> i press the center button i ipodzilla changes to file browser and there are =========  lines in the middle of the screen running horizontal and below thses line its blank 
23:18 < DerPapst> odd...
23:19 < DerPapst> then i'm out of ideas for now.
23:19 < DerPapst> sorry
23:19 < root__> ok
23:19 < root__> np 
23:19 < DerPapst> anyways... time to get some sleep.
23:19  * DerPapst is tired
23:19 < root__> well i dont belive hacking an ipod is werth  it any more 
23:19 < DerPapst> Good night everyone :)
23:19 < root__> nite nite
23:19 < DerPapst> not?
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23:21 < root__> it makes me wanna throw this 250 peice of crap 
23:21 < root__> ##
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23:56 < bismuth> Is there somewhere a 'standard' collection of modules that I could download ?
23:56 < bismuth> because when I start ipodlinux, podzilla tells me that pdzilla is probably going to be boring to use because it could not find any module 
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23:58 < bismuth> pzmodules I m guessing ?
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