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00:16 < MacFreak> good daniel_was_herw
00:16 < MacFreak> good danieal_was_here
00:16 < MacFreak> oops wrong page
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00:22 < daniel_was_here> huh
00:23 < daniel_was_here> Why is this channel that is the most confusing :/
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00:46 < daniel_was_here> ..
00:46 < daniel_was_here> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26437
00:48 < scorche> we have had worse
00:49 < scorche> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7268.0
00:50 < daniel_was_here> haha
00:50 < daniel_was_here> "Doom 3's minimum requirements claim a 1.5GHz processor.
00:50 < daniel_was_here> The Ipod's processor in boosted state is 75Mhz.
00:50 < daniel_was_here> not much difference is there ;)
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00:59 < MacFreak> g2g bye
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01:46 < daniel_was_here> ..
01:46 < daniel_was_here> i need a cd-r :|
01:46 < daniel_was_here> i only have dvds :(
01:46 < daniel_was_here> wonder if old bro has any
01:47 < BleuLlama> wow. zacaj is just a walking pile of incorrectness
01:49 < daniel_was_here> haha =P
01:49 < daniel_was_here> did you see my post :D
01:49 < BleuLlama> i dunno
01:50 < daniel_was_here> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26486
01:50 < daniel_was_here> last post :P
01:50 < daniel_was_here> i`ll edit it if ya want. ;D
01:52 < BleuLlama> whatever
01:52 < daniel_was_here> heh
01:57 < daniel_was_here> ... ARG i wanna kill vista.
01:57 < daniel_was_here> a 500MB file downloaded up to 99%
01:57 < daniel_was_here> then it stopped responding and closed :|
01:58  * daniel_was_here thanks god for it resuming
01:58 < daniel_was_here> Anyone here ever used LinuxFromScratch before?
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03:23 < nekura42> Here on day two of hunting usb our strapping hero finds himself surrounded mounds of information.... and reading through it....  :)
03:23 < nekura42> _by_ mounds
03:24 < nekura42> (hope that gives someone a laugh.. heh)
03:33 < nekura42> Is it using USB On-The-Go by any chance?
03:33 < nekura42> Or rather, could it be?
03:33 < scorche> no..it is just host
03:34 < scorche> well, afaik at least...
03:34 < scorche> perhaps...
03:34 < scorche> bah
03:34 < nekura42> USB On-The-Go looks like it could do either
03:35 < scorche> aye
03:35 < scorche> i think it is just host
03:35 < nekura42> I mean, check it out... looks like it's possible
03:35 < nekura42> http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego/
03:35 < scorche> because devices that have usbotg typically use a separate chip and i doubt that is incorporated into the PP chipd
03:35 < scorche> i knopw what otg is
03:36 < Gekkko> I am sickened by wireless usb
03:36 < Gekkko> SICKENED AND APALLED
03:36 < Gekkko> Hi.
03:37 < nekura42> heh Hey
03:37 < nekura42> hmm
03:37 < nekura42> It is Apple.. they could've struck a deal for a special version
03:37 < nekura42> Which isn't available to anyone else
03:38 < Gekkko> but they didnt
03:38 < scorche> such as http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioX5HardwareComponents#ALi_M5636_Hi_Speed_USB_2_0_OTG_P
03:38 < Gekkko> because they're gtreedy ass rapist ninjas
03:38 < scorche> no....i very much doubt they have otg incorporated in the PP chip now that i think of it
03:39 < nekura42> hmm.. ok, well.. useful insight :)
03:39 < Gekkko> burn your ipod
03:39 < Gekkko> to a crisp
03:39 < Gekkko> it'll like that
03:40 < nekura42> hah...
03:41 < nekura42> but could it use a similar interface to that which is provided by USB OTG?
03:47 < scorche> nekura42: you really should come into #rockbox and start up a chat with petur...
03:48 < nekura42> I'll take you up on that
03:48 < nekura42> afk first though
03:49 < scorche> he is in belgium though, so i doubt he is awake
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03:49 < Gekkko> BleuLlama: Terminal doesnt have backspace
03:50 < Gekkko> I know how we can fix it
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03:50 < Gekkko> BleuLlama: we need xmodmap 
03:50 < Gekkko> " xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"  "
03:51 < BleuLlama> huh?
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03:51 < Gekkko> BleuLlama: terminal on the ipod
03:52 < Gekkko> when you press back it sends ^H
03:52 < BleuLlama> what, like a podzilla module?
03:52 < Gekkko> yes
03:52 < Gekkko> the pz2 module
03:52 < BleuLlama> your termcap entry is wrong.
03:52 < Gekkko> :o
03:52 < Gekkko> how do I fix that then
03:52 < BleuLlama> stty erase ^H
03:53 < Gekkko> that's it?
03:53 < nekura42> speaking of the terminal mod.. which version/download should I be using?
03:53 < nekura42> My current one crashes the iPod
03:53 < nekura42> kernel pops
03:54 < nekura42> mmm brb again :)
03:54 < Gekkko> nekura42: 1.0 from the modules part on the site
04:10 < nekura42> I'll make sure that I'm using that one, thanks :)
04:10 < nekura42> ah.. good popcorn
04:24 < nekura42> Hey, is it reading USB 2.0 or 1.1?  Anyone know?
04:25 < scorche> just count on 1.1 as 2.0 is backwards compatible anyway
04:26 < nekura42> k
04:26 < nekura42> thanks
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04:32 < daniel_away> sup nekura42?
04:33 < nekura42> Hey, researching USB 1.1
04:33 < daniel_away> :)
05:05 < nekura42> Hey scorche, does serial AAP require each end to power itself, or does the host provide power?
05:06 < scorche> some units get power from the ipod, but i dont know if that is part of the AAP
05:06 < nekura42> I ask because my iPod powers the FM transmitter I was talking about yesterday
05:07 < scorche> aye
05:07 < nekura42> which means it is a host of some sort
05:07 < scorche> all that means is that power transfer is taking place
05:07 < nekura42> in that connection
05:07 < nekura42> but the client is drawing all of it's power from the host.. it's wired that way
05:08 < nekura42> wouldn't that be inherent sidedness?
05:08 < scorche> your fm transmitter has nothing to do with usb host/slave
05:08 < nekura42> well, it uses the same port as the USB/serial PC cable... so I was just trying to see if I could narrow anything else down
05:09 < scorche> ...do you have any idea how many things are on that port?
05:09 < nekura42> as to whether it COULD be AAP or not
05:09 < scorche> as i said before...your fm transmitter uses AAP
05:10 < nekura42> I understand it's overloaded... right, I just was checking if AAP spec'd out the power transfer that's taking place, and what each device's role was
05:12 < scorche> http://ipodlinux.org/Apple_Accessory_Protocol is about the limit most anyone knows about the AAP
05:12 < nekura42> ah, thanks
05:19 < nekura42> ooh.... AAP looks sexy
05:23 < nekura42> ok, I may try to hack the FM transmitter before attacking USB... could be a good starting point
05:24 < nekura42> I'll need to buy something from Radio Shack to detect the frequencies.. and something to transmit
05:24 < nekura42> that way I can figure out both reading and writing
05:24 < nekura42> plus have to make sure the device supports the proper frequencies of WiFi
05:25 < scorche> uh....what are you talking about?
05:25 < nekura42> hacking the FM transmitter into a WiFi adaptor versus UBS
05:25 < nekura42> USB*
05:26 < scorche> you are not going to get your fm transmitter to be wifi...
05:26 < nekura42> Starting with the transmitter could give me a decent feel for the serial port development
05:26 < nekura42> well, there has to be some way to control it
05:26 < nekura42> and do something useful with it
05:26 < scorche> it transmits FM frequencies...that is about it
05:27 < nekura42> I would imagine that the speeds capable on these devices should be somewhat dynamic
05:27 < nekura42> frequencies
05:27 < scorche> just trust me...it wont happen
05:28 < nekura42> :-/
05:28 < scorche> TOTALLY different
05:28  * nekura42 nods
05:29 < nekura42> are you saying it's something that's completely at the hardware level?
05:29 < nekura42> that is, the difference
05:29 < scorche> it is an FM transmitter...
05:29 < scorche> it is not a wifi transmitter
05:30 < nekura42> they're both just a piece of metal with frequencies of electricity going through them, right?
05:30 < scorche> there is a chip controlling that
05:31 < scorche> if you wanted to transmit wifi, you would need to build a whole new device
05:31 < nekura42> unless the hardware was completely uni-directional... or that, yeah.. hardware level difference
05:31 < scorche> but you can use that same piece of metal =>
05:31 < nekura42> hehe
05:31 < nekura42> so I first would have to hack my new $50 piece of  hardware.... eh... >.>
05:32 < scorche> no...you would be better off making a totally new device
05:32 < nekura42> I'd love to learn how, but do not have the materials or time required
05:33 < nekura42> well, I'd still love to be able to utilize the FM transmitter in Linux
05:33 < nekura42> let someone add it to MPD
05:33 < scorche> then figure out how to use the AAP
05:33 < nekura42> looks pretty easy from this spec
05:33 < nekura42> or logical, at least
05:33 < scorche> then i shall await a patch soon =P
05:33 < nekura42> very similar to my network messaging code
05:39 < daniel_away> Dev Fun eh ;)
05:46 < nekura42> lol.. falling asleep while reading AAP command protocol
05:53 < daniel_away> YaY
05:53 < daniel_away> hmmm
05:54 < daniel_away> i havent been away for the past 2-3 hours :s
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05:54 < nekura42> lol.. huh?
05:54 < nekura42> oh
05:54 < Daniel_was_here> heh
05:54 < nekura42> nvm
05:54 < Daniel_was_here> thought i changed it back ;P
05:54 < Daniel_was_here> "DANIEL_WAS_HERE Unknown command"
05:54 < Daniel_was_here> hehe
05:55 < nekura42> hah
05:55 < Daniel_was_here> i typed /daniel_was_here ;P
05:56 < nekura42> yes
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06:15  * nekura42 ooohs... http://tech.yostengineering.com/servoFolder
06:19 < nekura42> haha.. you could make a robot puppet for your iPod :)
06:21 < Daniel_was_here> o_o''
06:22 < nekura42> haha... just imagine your iPod hooked up to this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbODLfPWM8E
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06:36 < Daniel_was_here> nekura.... ... ... ... i dont whether to laugh or not..
06:36 < Daniel_was_here> xD
06:38 < nekura42> hehe
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08:03 < Gekkko> I are back
08:03 < Gekkko> I are got Rainbow Six >_>
08:05 < rvvs89> Are it good?
08:08 < Gekkko> Yar
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08:25 < rvvs89> oh, WhiteN'Nerdy resurrected MacOSPod
08:26 < rvvs89> =/
08:29 < Gekkko> wtf
08:29 < Gekkko> link so I can laugh
08:30 < rvvs89> I can't seem to get to it, but you'll find it from thar: http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Recentchanges
08:30 < daniel_washere> ..
08:30 < daniel_washere> rvvs89: were you in openplay when connor spammed it
08:31 < rvvs89> yes
08:31 < daniel_washere> ..
08:31 < daniel_washere> that couldn't stop laughing
08:31 < daniel_washere> he full put his name down for helping
08:31 < daniel_washere> and started making suggestions
08:31 < daniel_washere> xD
08:31 < rvvs89> wait... what?
08:32 < rvvs89> I saw him spam a picture about 8 times
08:32 < rvvs89> but that was it
08:32 < rvvs89> something else?
08:32 < rvvs89> Gekkko: http://ipodlinux.org/User:WhiteN%27Nerdy/MacOSPod
08:32 < Gekkko> wtf is MacOSPod anyway
08:33 < daniel_washere> huh...
08:33 < daniel_washere> hmmm maybe it was kick52
08:33 < daniel_washere> damn
08:33 < daniel_washere> he could tell you it all
08:33 < daniel_washere> and fxb maybe.. he deleted it :/
08:33 < Gekkko> To Do
08:33 < Gekkko>     * Allow all Mac OS X programs run on this MacOSPod 
08:33 < Gekkko> LOL!
08:34 < rvvs89> exactly...
08:34 < daniel_washere> lmfao
08:34 < Gekkko> what a drug addictr
08:34 < daniel_washere> See i'd edit it..
08:34 < daniel_washere> but then i get banned for a few hours :/
08:34 < Gekkko> ill do iot
08:34 < Gekkko> watch
08:34 < daniel_washere> hehe
08:34 < Gekkko> and wait
08:34 < rvvs89> lol, no, it's under his user page for a reason
08:34 < Gekkko> wia
08:34 < Gekkko> wait*
08:34 < Gekkko> i need to make a template
08:34 < Gekkko> called omgwtfbbq
08:34 < rvvs89> kgo lol
08:35 < daniel_washere> haha
08:35 < Gekkko> i will
08:35 < daniel_washere> lmfao
08:35 < Gekkko> just wait
08:35 < daniel_washere> xD
08:35 < daniel_washere> "  an iPod and (optional) Firewire cable for Internet"
08:35 < daniel_washere> dont worry
08:35 < daniel_washere> nekura42: He has a driver ready!
08:35 < daniel_washere> its all good
08:36 < rvvs89> what the hell? he categorised it as podzillae
08:36 < rvvs89> that's against the rules, I'm getting rid of it
08:37 < daniel_washere> rvvs89 to the rescue?
08:37 < Gekkko> no wait
08:37 < Gekkko> wait!
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08:37 < daniel_washere> he can use it to his advantage
08:37 < Gekkko> lol
08:37 < Gekkko> http://ipodlinux.org/User:WhiteN%27Nerdy/MacOSPod
08:37 < rvvs89> Gekkko: che?
08:38 < Gekkko> top warning
08:38 < Gekkko> lol
08:38 < daniel_washere> LMFAO
08:38 < daniel_washere> xD
08:38 < Gekkko> we also need a new category
08:38 < Gekkko> called LOL
08:38 < rvvs89> lol, good, now I'm getting rid of the category
08:38 < Gekkko> rvvs89: I already did
08:38 < Gekkko> almost
08:38 < Gekkko> :P
08:38 < daniel_washere> haha
08:38 < rvvs89> so you did, ta
08:38 < Gekkko> I did
08:38 < Gekkko> refresh
08:39 < Gekkko> the category didnt quite work
08:39 < Gekkko> but meh
08:40 < rvvs89> well, you need to create Category:LOL
08:40 < Gekkko> alirhgt
08:40 < Gekkko> refresh
08:40 < Gekkko> it works now
08:41 < Gekkko> mofo!
08:41 < Gekkko> lol
08:41 < Gekkko> iit worked a second agao
08:42 < rvvs89> Somehow {{omgwtfbbq}} didn't seem like b&able material, but Category:LOL does
08:42 < Gekkko> i created omgwtfbbq
08:43 < rvvs89> I know lol
08:43 < daniel_washere> LOL?
08:43 < daniel_washere> why not
08:43 < daniel_washere> epicphail
08:44 < daniel_washere> like ipodLOVE (on the forums) says xD
08:44 < daniel_washere> add it down the bottom ;)
08:44 < daniel_washere> "Categories: Unsupported"
08:44 < Gekkko> Done.
08:44 < Gekkko> Fixed.
08:44 < Gekkko> lol
08:45 < rvvs89> well, I hope you don't get banned for too long...
08:45 < Gekkko> eh.
08:45 < Gekkko> I'm done.
08:45 < Gekkko> It's was pure stupidity
08:45 < Gekkko> countered with pure stupidity
08:45 < Gekkko> karma and zen
08:45 < Gekkko> there is no court that would convist
08:45 < Gekkko> convict*
08:46 < Gekkko> i type with my thumbs too
08:46 < Gekkko> >_>
08:46 < rvvs89> lol
08:46 < rvvs89> /clear
08:46 < rvvs89> all good now
08:47 < Gekkko> that only hides your screen
08:47 < Gekkko> not ours
08:47 < Gekkko> >_>
08:47 < Gekkko> hmm
08:47 < Gekkko> my ipod linux isnt happy
08:48 < daniel_washere> huh
08:48 < daniel_washere> this is a legit article
08:48 < daniel_washere> i dont see why you would get banned.
08:48 < daniel_washere> its facts.
08:48 < Gekkko> i didnt destroy any materials either
08:48 < Gekkko> I created my own
08:48 < daniel_washere> creativity ;)
08:48 < Gekkko> it just allows for categorising amusing stories
08:48 < Gekkko> and making people suck
08:48 < Gekkko> lol
08:48 < daniel_washere> :)
08:48 < Gekkko> "Seriously, you fail."
08:49 < Gekkko> thats the best part.
08:49 < Gekkko> hmm
08:49 < Gekkko> I'm gonna change it to a warning sign
08:49 < Gekkko> an alarm
08:49 < Gekkko> lol
08:49 < daniel_washere> rvvs89: im agreeing now
08:49 < daniel_washere> my little hd thing took no longer then 3 weeks to make
08:49 < rvvs89> well, there's always iPinball... http://ipodlinux.org/User:WhiteN%27Nerdy/IPinball
08:49 < daniel_washere> or... lets hope the logs reveal that :/
08:50 < daniel_washere> i did more work then they did in less time
08:50 < Gekkko> Who thte fuck is "we"
08:50 < daniel_washere> lOL
08:51 < daniel_washere> LOL*
08:51 < daniel_washere> Tilt Sensor
08:51 < daniel_washere> 'cute'
08:51 < rvvs89> I know eh
08:51 < daniel_washere> xD
08:51 < rvvs89> This is madness! Madness? This is...
08:51 < rvvs89> insaniteh!
08:52 < rvvs89> or spartaa
08:52 < rvvs89> whatever floats your boat
08:52 < daniel_washere> 3.17 floats my boat.
08:52 < Gekkko> my boat is dense
08:52 < Gekkko> it doesnt float.
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08:52 < daniel_washere> screw boats..
08:52 < daniel_washere> JUST SWIM FOR IT
08:52 < rvvs89> poor Gekkko lol
08:53 < daniel_washere> yer Gekkko.. it`ll get better.. one day
08:53 < Gekkko> lol
08:53 < Gekkko> I have two boats actually
08:53 < Gekkko> a 1950's dinghy
08:53 < Gekkko> and a nice 5m boat
08:53 < Gekkko> 80hp
08:55 < Gekkko> is it just me or is it chilli salmon time
08:55 < daniel_washere> nope
08:55 < daniel_washere> its ipodlinux ultra dev time
08:55 < daniel_washere> With your host Gekkko
08:55 < Gekkko> Learn me in the art of C
08:55 < Gekkko> and you shall have your op
08:56 < Gekkko> dev
08:56 < Gekkko> fuck ops
08:56 < daniel_washere> huh
08:56 < daniel_washere> im confused
08:56 < rvvs89> talk like yoda, you do
08:56 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: it's the westie attitude you h ave
08:56 < Gekkko> :P
08:57 < Gekkko> Is it just me or are people from Emu Plains just so weird.
08:57 < Gekkko> so weiiird.
08:57 < Gekkko> and inbred.
08:58 < daniel_washere> iunno
08:58 < daniel_washere> rvvs89: ever attempted LFS?(Linux from scratch)
08:58 < Gekkko> I might just for shits and giggles
08:58 < rvvs89> haven't heard of that
08:58 < daniel_washere> im up to the worst part yet... Compiling everything
08:58 < Gekkko> handconfiguring X is hard enough for me
08:59 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: I love that part
08:59 < daniel_washere> yer
08:59 < Gekkko> I love it when it says "make: error
08:59 < daniel_washere> .
08:59 < Gekkko> just makes me joyous
08:59 < daniel_washere> i hate that part
08:59 < rvvs89> make error lol
08:59 < daniel_washere> haha
08:59 < daniel_washere> nah
08:59 < Gekkko> makes me so joyous I go outside
08:59 < daniel_washere> when it all goes fine
08:59 < Gekkko> and watch the wrens
08:59 < Gekkko> I <3 wrens.
08:59 < rvvs89> You have been eaten by a grue
08:59 < daniel_washere> haha
09:00 < Gekkko> I aint that gay
09:00 < Gekkko> >_+>
09:00 < daniel_washere> uncyclopedia is full of em arent they?
09:00 < daniel_washere> isnt it*
09:00 < rvvs89> Yes, it's scary
09:00 < rvvs89> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Grue
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09:01 < Gekkko> OH
09:01 < Gekkko> GRUE
09:01 < Gekkko> the Floydzilla dude
09:02 < rvvs89> hehe, check out these linux commands from another server:
09:02 < rvvs89> which man who kill ed cal & su
09:02 < rvvs89> who kill ed cal & su
09:02 < Gekkko> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Charmillionaire
09:02 < rvvs89> touch which top cat tail, sed sleep(y) su
09:03 < rvvs89> apparently the (y) kills that one though
09:03 < Gekkko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maluridae
09:03 < Gekkko> SO CUTE
09:03 < rvvs89> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Your_grandma_might_be_Al-Qaeda
09:03 < rvvs89> One of the greatest
09:04 < daniel_washere> yer
09:04 < daniel_washere> the picture is the best part
09:04 < rvvs89> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Sweetgrannyterror.jpg
09:05 < Gekkko> lol
09:05 < rvvs89> ahaha: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Ahmadinejad-jihad-my-ride.jpg
09:09 < rvvs89> make caller wait until caller sleep
09:09 < daniel_washere> LMFAo
09:09 < daniel_washere> lol
09:09 < daniel_washere> kolkl
09:09 < daniel_washere> sorry head fell on the keyboard :|
09:09 < daniel_washere> xD
09:09 < rvvs89> :P
09:10 < daniel_washere> I think that sites the only site you'd die of laughter from
09:10 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: where do you  live so I can hit you
09:10 < Gekkko> and steal your cat
09:10 < Gekkko> hold it hostage, sell its hair on ebay
09:10 < Gekkko> and give it back
09:10 < Gekkko> hairless mind you
09:11 < daniel_washere> i dont talk to people i dont know
09:11 < Gekkko> LOL
09:11 < daniel_washere> rvvs89: How long do you think it would take to compile binutils?
09:11 < daniel_washere> Who doesnt know rvvs89
09:11 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: please realise I was kidding >_>
09:11 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: about 5-10 minutes
09:11 < rvvs89> yeah, I have no idea
09:12 < daniel_washere> damn linux
09:12 < daniel_washere> wish it was just
09:12 < daniel_washere> make linux
09:12 < daniel_washere> much eaiser :/
09:12 < rvvs89> lol
09:12 < rvvs89> sudo autoconfigure pls
09:13 < daniel_washere> haha
09:13 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: if you want to configure a system from the source, get sourcemage
09:13 < Gekkko> lol
09:13 < Gekkko> it compiles the system automatically
09:19 < daniel_washere> hehe nah doesnt matter now ;P
09:19 < daniel_washere> already started
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09:20 < DataGhostUni> someone needed to ask me something because I'd forget
09:20 < DataGhostUni> I didn't think I would
09:20 < DataGhostUni> but I did
09:20 < DataGhostUni> except for that someone was going to ask me about it :P
09:20 < rvvs89> DataGhostUni: check ze logs!
09:21 < DataGhostUni> no
09:21 < DataGhostUni> was a few days ago
09:21 < DataGhostUni> :)
09:21 < rvvs89> oh well :P
09:24  * daniel_washere hopes he was meant to compile binutils first..
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09:25 < daniel_washere> yay it was
09:26 < daniel_washere> :|
09:27 < daniel_washere> Forgot to add an argument to configure ><
09:27 < rvvs89> You're winner?
09:27 < daniel_washere> ..
09:27 < daniel_washere> no
09:27 < daniel_washere> but ctrl+shift+z is
09:27 < daniel_washere> :F
09:27 < daniel_washere> :D*
09:27 < rvvs89> :E
09:28 < rvvs89> http://xkcd.com/c272.html3
09:28 < rvvs89> http://xkcd.com/c272.html
09:28 < rvvs89> sorry, 3 is next to enter lol
09:29 < DataGhostUni> yeah, I always type '2' for a new line :/
09:29 < rvvs89> well, on the num pad anyway
09:29 < daniel_washere> haha
09:31 < DataGhostUni> hm true
09:31 < DataGhostUni> might be me. I never use enter on my numpad except when entering numbers
09:31 < DataGhostUni> and currently I'm on my laptop, which, amazingly, has no such thing
09:31 < DataGhostUni> I'm a bit hungry though
09:31 < rvvs89> to the eatery!
09:31 < DataGhostUni> forgot to pack lunch and I'll be here the next 8 hours
09:32 < rvvs89> which uni are you going to?
09:32 < rvvs89> even though the name probably wouldn't mean anything to me
09:32 < DataGhostUni> Eindhoven university of technology
09:32 < DataGhostUni> in the netherlands
09:33 < DataGhostUni> which my rdns might reveal
09:34 < rvvs89> yeah, I just couldn't be bothered doing a look up and feeling like a stalker when I could just ask you :P
09:36 < rvvs89> http://xkcd.com/c117.html
09:41 < DataGhostUni> anyway
09:41 < DataGhostUni> I think it was you Gekkko
09:41 < Gekkko> who did what
09:41 < DataGhostUni> *prod*
09:41 < DataGhostUni> supposed to highlight me today with stuff to do
09:41 < Gekkko> you think I did what
09:41 < DataGhostUni> or someone else but then I totally forgot
09:41 < Gekkko> no that wasnt me
09:41 < DataGhostUni> gah
09:41 < Gekkko> that was nekura42 I bet
09:42 < DataGhostUni> well I have no idea then :)
09:42 < Gekkko> you had to patch something
09:42 < Gekkko> or upload something
09:42 < Gekkko> I think it was the 5G kernel fix
09:42 < Gekkko> that doesnt fuck up ipod nanos
09:43 < DataGhostUni> hey
09:43 < DataGhostUni> it WAS you
09:43 < Gekkko> it was?
09:43 < DataGhostUni> http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ipodlinux.log-2007-07-10 decided to look it up anyway :P
09:43 < Gekkko> I guess I wasn't reading right
09:43 < DataGhostUni> around 1152
09:43 < DataGhostUni> nano build.. hm
09:43 < Gekkko> or caring
09:43 < Gekkko> or both
09:44 < Gekkko> DataGhost: patch the iboy kernel patch
09:44 < Gekkko> then it's useful
09:44 < DataGhostUni> .
09:44 < DataGhostUni> by the way I'm not at home so I'll make a note :P
09:44 < Gekkko> 5.5G can't do iBoy in colour
09:44 < Gekkko> lol
09:44 < DataGhostUni> (and I don't feel like doing it now, not being at home is no excuse since the invention of ssh :P )
09:45 < Gekkko> well I'm going to play games
09:45 < Gekkko> ttyl
09:51 < DataGhostUni> BleuLlama can you ban wikipeople?
09:52 < DataGhostUni> (that's not a username by the way, if you were searching)
09:53 < daniel_washere> O_O
09:53 < daniel_washere> what wierd messages my friend sent me..
09:54 < daniel_washere> im proud of myself.. compiled binutils all by myself ;)
09:54 < rvvs89> :D
09:54 < rvvs89> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26493
09:54 < rvvs89> D:
09:55 < daniel_washere> lmfao xD
09:55 < daniel_washere> some people.
09:56 < rvvs89> When the question is intelligent, I try to give useful information...
09:56 < rvvs89> maybe I shouldn't bother
09:56 < daniel_washere> they cant appreciate knowledge.
09:57 < rvvs89> iLoadz will never be as popoular as iLaunch anyway
09:57 < daniel_washere> ya
09:57 < daniel_washere> Im glad they made iLaunch
09:57 < daniel_washere> hopefully everyone else with the pointless apps will stop deving
09:58 < daniel_washere> and make something that has a purpose of launching another application
09:58 < daniel_washere> the only 2 i've ever used is
09:58 < daniel_washere> CLauncher and iLaunch
09:58 < rvvs89> :'(
09:59 < rvvs89> I spent like half an hour doing all the maths and formatting that response
09:59 < rvvs89> bah
09:59 < daniel_washere> :(
09:59 < daniel_washere> i sorry
09:59  * daniel_washere passes virtual cookie
09:59  * rvvs89 eats virtual cookie
09:59 < rvvs89> Mmm, electronic
09:59 < DataGhostUni> *moves his ass*
10:00 < DataGhostUni> time to buy some lunch :)
10:00 < rvvs89> enjoy
10:00 < DataGhostUni> see ya in 10 min or something :)
10:00 < DataGhostUni> if I go offline at all
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10:08 < daniel_washere> ok
10:08 < daniel_washere> now here my plan stops..
10:08 < daniel_washere> im required to compile gcc
10:08 < daniel_washere> however im trying to install linux..
10:08 < daniel_washere> on my 256mb USB
10:08 < daniel_washere> gcc itself is 514mb :|
10:10 < rvvs89> :(
10:11 < daniel_washere> indeed
10:12 < rvvs89> you need a bigger flash drive while you develop this
10:12 < rvvs89> 1GB is $37 from dick smith electronics last I checked
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10:15 < Liars> yep I did go offline :)
10:15 < Liars> :/
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10:17 < daniel_washere> Sweet
10:17 < daniel_washere> hmmm
10:17 < daniel_washere> yer a 1gb is cheap
10:17 < daniel_washere> i wish my older bro would let me borrow his
10:17 < daniel_washere> i might try put it on my ipod
10:17 < DataGhostUni> you know what
10:18 < daniel_washere> and mount it
10:18 < daniel_washere> what?
10:18 < DataGhostUni> I'll buy you a 1gb ipod if you buy me a neo1973
10:18 < daniel_washere> lol nope
10:18 < daniel_washere> xD
10:18 < DataGhostUni> devkit
10:18 < DataGhostUni> :P
10:18 < daniel_washere> i want one
10:18 < daniel_washere> i need a new phone
10:18 < DataGhostUni> heh I don't
10:18 < daniel_washere> i need a new one badly...
10:18 < DataGhostUni> but that neo is the ONLY phone that beats my phone's dpi :/
10:18 < daniel_washere> Nokia 3315?
10:18 < DataGhostUni> my phone has a 256dpi screen
10:18 < daniel_washere> my fone is monochrome.
10:18 < daniel_washere> xD
10:19 < DataGhostUni> (fyi, 1600x1200 on a 17" monitor is about 128dpi)
10:19 < DataGhostUni> the neo1973 has 278dpi
10:19 < DataGhostUni> orsomething
10:19 < DataGhostUni> and it's got a touchscreen
10:19 < DataGhostUni> but I'm waiting for the next version and money
10:20 < daniel_washere> :D
10:22 < DataGhostUni> I first need a new computer
10:22 < DataGhostUni> requirements: 8 cores, lots of RAM, _AT LEAST_ 5TB storage in raid5, preferrably 6, a big-ass raidcontroller to handle that at decent speeds without killing the pc
10:22 < DataGhostUni> and some other things
10:22 < DataGhostUni> oh yeah, a dvd player
10:23 < daniel_washere> no floppy drive?
10:23 < daniel_washere> only 8? heh Intel made an 80 core prototype.
10:23 < daniel_washere> if you think about it.. alot of this stuff is possible :s
10:25 < DataGhostUni> yeah but it's not x86 compatible -_-
10:25 < DataGhostUni> I know lots of x86-incompatible lots-of-cores-chips
10:25 < DataGhostUni> basically a GPU is one
10:25 < DataGhostUni> of them multicore thingies
10:25 < DataGhostUni> if you look at it in a different way than you normally would
10:26 < DataGhostUni> anyway the 8 cores is not really true
10:26 < DataGhostUni> 2 * the_number_of_cores_on_the_fastest_consumer_x86_chip_available_at_the_moment
10:26 < DataGhostUni> so for now I'm thinking about 2x AMD Phenom X4 if their performance is allright
10:27 < DataGhostUni> but if htey start shipping octocore chips I'll need 16 cores :)
10:27 < daniel_washere> Oh are those the new ones
10:28 < DataGhostUni> anyway it's quite cheap here :o
10:28 < DataGhostUni> not CPUs
10:28 < DataGhostUni> well they are
10:28 < DataGhostUni> but the food :o
10:28 < DataGhostUni> 2 euros for a nice lunch
10:33 < rvvs89> that's pretty good
10:34 < rvvs89> I pay $10 for lunch at www.uwa.edu.au
10:35 < rvvs89> AUD
10:35 < Gekkko> $10 = 2 euro
10:35 < Gekkko> lol
10:36 < rvvs89> I get 2(euro, can't find the symbol) = 3.20AUD
10:36 < Gekkko> inflation != dollar amount
10:36 < Gekkko> ::P
10:36 < rvvs89> true
10:36 < rvvs89> and everything in this city is expensive :(
10:37 < rvvs89> stupid resources boom!
10:37 < Gekkko> lol perth
10:37  * rvvs89 shakes fist menacingly at mining industry
10:37 < Gekkko> Australia sucks
10:37 < Gekkko> >_>
10:37 < Gekkko> I plan to move to Germany
10:37 < rvvs89> I plan to not go anywhere
10:37 < daniel_washere> to japan!
10:37 < rvvs89> I feel safer here than anywhere else in the world
10:37 < rvvs89> inc japan
10:37 < daniel_washere> yer..
10:37 < daniel_washere> agree with that
10:37 < Gekkko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC
10:38 < rvvs89> I should have got that
10:38 < Gekkko> it's not out yet
10:38 < rvvs89> when it comes out then
10:38 < Gekkko> 1st Sept
10:39 < Gekkko> its under AU$400
10:39 < daniel_washere> " top of the base Linux system, which is said to require only fifteen seconds to boot"
10:39 < daniel_washere> impressive
10:39 < rvvs89> my current notebook is fat and more powerful than I need it to be
10:39 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: people were complaining it's too slow
10:39 < Gekkko> plus I'm gonna swap it with Puppy Linux lol
10:39 < Gekkko> it boots faster
10:39 < Gekkko> :P
10:40 < daniel_washere> ... need gnome.
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10:40 < DataGhostUni> heh
10:40 < rvvs89> flash memory for storage, cool
10:40 < Gekkko> SIF GNOME
10:40 < Gekkko> you need burning daniel_washere
10:40 < DataGhostUni> even a full meal thingy (pasta? whatever.. I like candy etc :P ) is less than 5 euros :D
10:41 < Gekkko> 300.00 USD
10:41 < Gekkko> 	
10:41 < Gekkko> =
10:41 < Gekkko> 	
10:41 < Gekkko> 347.632 AUD
10:41 < Gekkko> eww spam
10:41 < Gekkko> but you get the drif
10:41 < Gekkko> it's $350 for a laptop
10:41 < rvvs89> :3
10:41 < DataGhostUni> 5 Euros = 7.93696942 Australian dollars
10:41 < DataGhostUni> haahaa!:P
10:42  * rvvs89 shakes fist menacingly at DataGhostUni
10:42 < rvvs89> your cheap food is the cause of my expensive food :P
10:43 < DataGhostUni> you know what's good too?
10:43 < DataGhostUni> http://w3.tue.nl/fileadmin/dict/objects/NSC/flyer-2007.pdf (2nd page is in english if you don't understand it :D )
10:43 < DataGhostUni> that's 900 euros for students
10:45 < daniel_washere> damnit..
10:45 < daniel_washere> it wont mount my ipod :(
10:46 < DataGhostUni> this thing sure will
10:46 < daniel_washere> mount /dev/sdb /mnt/ipod
10:46 < DataGhostUni> that's what you get for buying a cheap laptop!
10:46 < DataGhostUni> :P
10:46 < daniel_washere> Ever tried Linux From Scratch?
10:46 < rvvs89> DataGhostUni: that's similar to what I have now, except I got mine for 750AUD
10:46 < DataGhostUni> yeah it sucked
10:46 < DataGhostUni> it was nice at first
10:46 < DataGhostUni> 'yay I did it myself'
10:46 < daniel_washere> ...
10:46 < DataGhostUni> later on 'yay I read the manual instead of really doing it myself'
10:46 < DataGhostUni> and even later 'goddammit where is the package manager when you need it'
10:47 < Gekkko> DataGhostUni: it's easy to install slapt-get
10:47 < Gekkko> you lazy dork
10:47 < daniel_washere> "(07:54:10 PM) daniel_washere: im proud of myself.. compiled binutils all by myself ;)"
10:47 < Gekkko> lol
10:47 < DataGhostUni> heh
10:47 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod
10:47 < Gekkko> you idiot
10:47 < Gekkko> lol
10:47 < DataGhostUni> I actually found modifying the iPL kernel for the 5.5Gs a harder job than installng LFS
10:47 < daniel_washere> "sorry your ipod is not in fstab, your screwed now"
10:48 < Gekkko> it doesnt need to be in fstab
10:48 < Gekkko> it'll get over it
10:48 < daniel_washere> o_O
10:48 < daniel_washere> lfs is a pain..
10:48 < DataGhostUni> :)
10:48 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: you just cant mount your ipod properly
10:48 < Gekkko> lol
10:48 < DataGhostUni> yeah
10:48 < DataGhostUni> lfs doesn't work differently than any other distro
10:48 < DataGhostUni> except for the distro-specific things and package manager
10:48 < Gekkko> and GNOME
10:48 < Gekkko> fuck GNOME.
10:48 < DataGhostUni> mounting is the same thing on all, thank god
10:48 < DataGhostUni> heh
10:48 < DataGhostUni> hm kde4 should be alpha2 about now :o
10:48 < Gekkko> I love my IceWM and/or Openbox
10:48 < DataGhostUni> let's have a look
10:49 < Gekkko> DataGhostUni: it is
10:49 < Gekkko> it's nice!
10:49 < Gekkko> how cool are plasma icons
10:49 < Gekkko> I'm going to use KDE4 juts for that
10:49 < Gekkko> even though it is bloatful
10:49 < DataGhostUni> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Roadmap
10:49 < Gekkko> I'll have to remove the panel at the bottom though
10:49 < Gekkko> it makes me sick
10:49 < daniel_washere> ..
10:49 < daniel_washere> it says i have to be root to do it
10:50 < daniel_washere> so i put sudo at the start
10:50 < DataGhostUni> oh yeah that's logical when it's not in fstab, saying that a normal user can mount it :P
10:50 < daniel_washere> "ramble about great responsibility using sudo, and being stupid"
10:50 < daniel_washere> then it does nothing
10:50 < daniel_washere> nothing mounts
10:50 < DataGhostUni> you have to enter your password, too
10:50 < daniel_washere> i cant su to root, because the retarted thing has no password
10:50 < DataGhostUni> :)
10:50 < daniel_washere> and i cant go back to it
10:50 < daniel_washere> my password doesnt work
10:50 < DataGhostUni> lol
10:50 < DataGhostUni> no password at all?
10:51 < DataGhostUni> * in /etc/shadow?
10:51 < daniel_washere> and im stuck with a 256mb USB stick
10:51 < rvvs89> make a root account then
10:51 < DataGhostUni> lol.
10:51 < daniel_washere> and a 514mb gcc source folder
10:51 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: you nublet
10:51 < Gekkko> why didnt you passwd rooit
10:51 < Gekkko> root*
10:51 < Gekkko> login as root
10:51 < DataGhostUni> daniel_washere boot your machine with a livecd, chroot into your linux distro and change the root password
10:51 < Gekkko> passwd
10:51 < Gekkko> then su to it
10:51 < daniel_washere> ... its a livecd
10:51 < Gekkko> DataGhost: su and login are two different things
10:51 < DataGhostUni> yeah but if there is no valid hash in /etc/shadow there is no way in hel
10:51 < daniel_washere> im running it off a shell
10:51 < DataGhostUni> ....
10:51 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: why
10:51 < Gekkko> >_>
10:51 < DataGhostUni> Gekkko why?
10:52 < daniel_washere> because thats how it works Gekkko
10:52 < DataGhostUni> in both cases you have to enter a password
10:52 < daniel_washere> you boot with the LFSLiveCD in
10:52 < Gekkko> I knoiw
10:52 < DataGhostUni> the first might be forbidden when you are not in wheel and the second might be forbidden if root logins are disabled
10:52 < Gekkko> you didn't say LFS cd
10:52 < Gekkko> :p
10:52 < daniel_washere> i hope i can still do it from my account
10:52 < DataGhostUni> but the lfs cd should show you the password
10:52 < Gekkko> ./etc/sudoers
10:52 < DataGhostUni> or the password should be somewhere in the docs
10:52 < DataGhostUni> :)
10:52 < Gekkko> needs your user in it
10:52 < DataGhostUni> and if you have sudo
10:52 < DataGhostUni> you can do sudo passwd
10:52 < DataGhostUni> :)
10:52 < Gekkko> and /etc/pam.d/ needs to be happy
10:53 < DataGhostUni> if you have sudo access that is
10:53 < rvvs89> information from multiple people
10:53 < rvvs89> is hard to read
10:53 < DataGhostUni> sudo passwd :)
10:53 < Gekkko> rvvs89: neincakes
10:54 < daniel_washere> just tried it
10:54 < daniel_washere> it does nothing
10:54 < daniel_washere> sudo just does completely nothing but show a message
10:54 < Gekkko> I'm gonna do LFS on a 386
10:54 < Gekkko> that'll show you daniel_washere
10:54 < DataGhostUni> does it say 'a message' or something specific? :)
10:54 < Gekkko> that'll show you!
10:54 < daniel_washere> Gekkko: I aint doing this for fun.
10:54 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: why are you trying to mount your ipod from the live cd anyway
10:54 < daniel_washere> Gekkko: readback >_>
10:54 < daniel_washere> nope
10:54 < Gekkko> you copy and paste back
10:55 < daniel_washere> all it says is the responsibility message
10:55 < daniel_washere> then password:
10:55 < daniel_washere> press enter (since there is none)
10:55 < DataGhostUni> then you have to enter your account password
10:55 < daniel_washere> goes back to the bash thing
10:55 < DataGhostUni> oh yeah and then nothing happens but your ipod is probably mounted then
10:55 < DataGhostUni> it needn't say 'yarr I mounted thy iPodz'
10:55 < DataGhostUni> I think it just doesn't say anything
10:56 < rvvs89> Error Code 0?????
10:56 < daniel_washere> mount says it isnt there
10:56 < rvvs89> The operation completed successfully??? WTF???
10:56 < daniel_washere> /mnt/ipod has nothing in there
10:56 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: i cant see anything about why you are doing LFS
10:56 < Gekkko> rvvs89: yep
10:56 < Gekkko> it means no error code
10:56 < Gekkko> 0 = false
10:56 < daniel_washere> Gekkko its for a secret project.
10:56 < rvvs89> I know, I'm quoting people on the forums lol
10:56 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: that secret project is
10:56 < daniel_washere> OSGC.
10:56 < daniel_washere> and thats all.
10:56 < rvvs89> /join #openplay
10:56 < daniel_washere> ...
10:57 < rvvs89> lol
10:57  * daniel_washere rvvs89
10:57  * daniel_washere hits rvvs89*
10:57 < DataGhostUni> I really don't see the extra value of using LFS over another distro
10:57 < DataGhostUni> especially gentoo
10:57 < DataGhostUni> like gentoo = LFS + package manager + ease
10:57 < Gekkko> DataGhostUni: no...
10:57 < DataGhostUni> what is it then :/
10:57 < Gekkko> Sourcemage = LFS + package manager + ease
10:58 < rvvs89> Kubuntu = Login as root is not allowed
10:58 < DataGhostUni> and gentoo = ..?
10:58 < DataGhostUni> then
10:58 < Gekkko> Gentoo = wannabe LFS + BSD package manager knockoff + ease
10:58 < DataGhostUni> rvvs89 and it should not be allowed indeed
10:58 < DataGhostUni> lol why is it wannabe
10:58 < Gekkko> ask Gentto
10:58 < DataGhostUni> you mean that sourcemage doesn't check for dependencies
10:58 < daniel_washere> screw this
10:58 < DataGhostUni> or.>? :)
10:58 < daniel_washere> i`ll try again tommorow
10:58 < rvvs89> Vista = OSX
10:58 < rvvs89> oops did I say that out loud?
10:58 < daniel_washere> xD
10:58 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: do you want help?
10:59 < DataGhostUni> mount: puh... thursdays... come back tomorrow
10:59 < DataGhostUni> :)
10:59 < daniel_washere> Gekkko: No
10:59 < Gekkko> and daniel_washere, if you want to make it a dedicated Linux for it
10:59 < Gekkko> Use Puppy Linux
10:59 < daniel_washere> No
10:59 < Gekkko> lol
10:59 < daniel_washere> puppy linux & dsl = gay
10:59 < Gekkko> its 80mb >_>
10:59 < daniel_washere> so
10:59 < daniel_washere> its gay
10:59 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: get out >_>
10:59 < daniel_washere> no
10:59 < Gekkko> you fail miserably.
10:59 < DataGhostUni> he likes bloated stuff!
10:59 < daniel_washere> we want the distro to run on both HD
10:59 < DataGhostUni> I think he was about to compile every single piece of open-source software in existence
10:59 < daniel_washere> and a USB flash drive
11:00 < Gekkko> and Puppy does that
11:00 < Gekkko> >_>
11:00 < daniel_washere> does puppy linux allows customization
11:00 < Gekkko> yes
11:00 < Gekkko> majorly.
11:00 < daniel_washere> removal of the whole window manager
11:00 < Gekkko> you can rip its guts out
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11:00 < daniel_washere> k
11:00 < Gekkko> lol
11:00 < daniel_washere> l`ll ask team tommorow
11:00 < daniel_washere> i hope it does
11:00 < Gekkko> it does
11:00 < daniel_washere> LFS honestly.... I HATE IT!
11:00 < Gekkko> theres an app called PupBeGone
11:00 < DataGhostUni> :)
11:00 < Gekkko> that autorips some shit
11:00 < scorche> uhhh...what are you talking about puppy linux and DSL?
11:01 < scorche> s/what/why
11:01 < Gekkko> other than that, you can go and delete everything manually
11:01 < DataGhostUni> from love to hate in about 5 minutes
11:01 < Gekkko> scorche: why ARENT we
11:01 < scorche> why would you be?
11:01 < daniel_washere> because
11:01 < Gekkko> why shouldnt we
11:01 < DataGhostUni> yeah Gekkko or something even more cruel
11:01 < daniel_washere> lol
11:01 < DataGhostUni> someone once did chmod -R a-x /*
11:01 < Gekkko> what about?
11:01 < Gekkko> ouch
11:01 < scorche> well, why are you?...because if you are talking about something on an ipod, that is juts stupid =P
11:02 < Gekkko> scorche: ...
11:02 < Gekkko> out.
11:02 < Gekkko> lol
11:02 < scorche> what?
11:02 < DataGhostUni> so even if he could boot up a livecd it'd be a hell of a job getting everything back to normal :P
11:02 < Gekkko> why
11:02 < Gekkko> rm -rf /usr/local
11:02 < Gekkko> next
11:02 < Gekkko> lol
11:02 < Gekkko> oh and daniel_washere, the window manager is like ... 500kb
11:02 < Gekkko> or some shit
11:02 < Gekkko> ill check lol
11:03 < daniel_washere> :|
11:03 < daniel_washere> even better
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11:03 < Gekkko> uh
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11:03 < Gekkko> 132kb
11:03 < Gekkko> >_>
11:03 < daniel_washere> we only want it to start and launch, start x and load our app up
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11:03 < Gekkko> that's very very small
11:03 < DataGhostUni> so much for wireless
11:03 < daniel_washere> heh
11:03 < Gekkko> there's a core version somewhere
11:03 < Gekkko> I guess I'll find it for you after you have further discussions
11:04 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: ipod support requires libgpod
11:04 < Gekkko> and gtkpod
11:04 < daniel_washere> o_o
11:04 < daniel_washere> uh
11:04 < daniel_washere> we know that
11:04 < Gekkko> ipod as in transfer
11:04 < Gekkko> good good.
11:04 < daniel_washere> we have a big long discussion about it today
11:04 < Gekkko> lol
11:04 < Gekkko> heard of libmng?
11:04 < daniel_washere> there are no decent linux ipod libs around ><
11:04 < daniel_washere> nope..
11:04 < daniel_washere> what is it?
11:04 < Gekkko> its moving png
11:04 < Gekkko> like GIF
11:04 < Gekkko> but not.
11:05 < daniel_washere> i..... see....
11:05 < Gekkko> lol
11:05 < Gekkko> GIF is limited to 256 colors
11:05 < Gekkko> PNG is not?
11:05 < daniel_washere> Haha
11:05 < Gekkko> PNG is small
11:05 < Gekkko> GIF is useless and small
11:05 < daniel_washere> DerPapst completely missed your changes to the wiki
11:05 < Gekkko> MNG is cool.
11:05 < daniel_washere> and MacOsPod
11:05 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: really
11:05 < Gekkko> lolo
11:05 < Gekkko> OR he noticed and didnt care
11:05 < DataGhostUni> Gekkko = brennan?
11:05 < Gekkko> Brendan >_>
11:05 < DataGhostUni> same whatev
11:06 < DataGhostUni> I was about to report that to someone :)
11:06 < Gekkko> lol
11:06 < Gekkko> whyyy
11:06 < DataGhostUni> few hours ago
11:06 < Gekkko> it's not even breaking any rules
11:06 < DataGhostUni> eh?
11:06 < DataGhostUni> you're adding nonsense
11:06 < Gekkko> it's stating a fact: you sir are wrong
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11:06 < Gekkko> and what you plan to do is wrong!
11:06 < Gekkko> lol
11:08 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: is this just a frontend to an emulator?
11:08 < Gekkko> emulator(s)
11:09 < Gekkko> kind of looks like a window manager/game frontend
11:09 < daniel_washere> yep
11:10 < daniel_washere> and videos/images/music
11:10 < Gekkko> it doesnt have a gameboy emulator yet >_>
11:10 < Gekkko> lol
11:10 < daniel_washere> dude
11:10 < daniel_washere> it hasnt be finalized.
11:10 < Gekkko> I know that.
11:10 < daniel_washere> all the emus arent even in yet
11:10 < Gekkko> I said yet.
11:10 < daniel_washere> it supports wiimote
11:10 < Gekkko> I saiiiiiid yet :
11:10 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: once you get this to a usable level, I'll donate $5
11:10 < Gekkko> Linux needs good emulator frontends.
11:10 < daniel_washere> haha thanks
11:11 < Gekkko> a suggestion though: when it comes to compilation, give the option --without-wiimote
11:11 < Gekkko> or more likely: --with-wiimote
11:11 < Gekkko> not everyone has a wiimote for their PC
11:11 < daniel_washere> hmmm
11:11 < Gekkko> :P
11:11 < daniel_washere> it detects devices on startup
11:11 < daniel_washere> if it doesnt have it
11:11 < daniel_washere> it doesnt care
11:11 < Gekkko> still adds to size of the binary
11:11 < Gekkko> and the dev dep
11:12 < Gekkko> are you going to implement the gecko engine in it for the internet?
11:12 < daniel_washere> brb
11:12 < daniel_washere> yer
11:12 < daniel_washere> were thinking firefox is
11:12 < daniel_washere> ish*
11:12 < daniel_washere> brb
11:12 < Gekkko> lol gecko basically is firefox, isnt it DataGhostUni
11:12 < Gekkko> >_>!
11:13 < Gekkko> daniel_washere: you could run the application as the desktop and have openbox as the window manager
11:13 < Gekkko> and theme the taskbar to be part of the app
11:13 < matt322> hey soz to interupt, but what does "dma not active" mean, is it bad?
11:13 < Gekkko> so you wouldnt have to "implement" firefox
11:14 < DataGhostUni> I think it's the other way around
11:14 < DataGhostUni> gecko is the engine firefox is using
11:14 < DataGhostUni> afaik
11:14 < DataGhostUni> I don't use firefox, it sucks
11:14 < Gekkko> I know that DataGhostUni
11:14 < DataGhostUni> merlin \o/ kestrel \o/
11:14 < Gekkko> but when compiling Gecko, it basically created Firefox
11:14 < rvvs89> matt322: DMA not active means... DMA is not active, so where's the error message coming from
11:15 < Gekkko> creates*
11:15 < matt322> ipod 5g
11:15 < Gekkko> and daniel_washere, it allows firefox to be updated for security bugs
11:15 < matt322> on boot up
11:15 < Gekkko> and doesnt requier you to do it
11:15 < matt322> still loads thou
11:15 < Gekkko> modularity!
11:15 < rvvs89> matt322: if nothing's wrong then what's the problem?
11:15 < matt322> but wasnt there b4 i got mpd up
11:16 < matt322> well mpd still skips(i know its buggy) but was wondering if this dma was the problem
11:17 < rvvs89> matt322: execute "cat /proc/dma" after you start mpd
11:17 < rvvs89> matt322: and tell me what the output is
11:17 < matt322> k
11:18 < matt322> no output
11:19 < rvvs89> right
11:19 < matt322> but....i didnt load pz2....mpd is loaded and playing high pitched garbage out of my ear phone
11:19 < Gekkko> you win!
11:20 < rvvs89> if it's playing anything at all, it should have an entry in dma :(
11:20 < matt322> i just stuck "cat /proc/dma" in rc, and then hashed out podzilla...
11:20 < matt322> is that the right thing 2 do?
11:21 < rvvs89> not really, I kind of meant to execute it when you're playing something, but that's fairly difficuly to do on the iPod
11:21 < rvvs89> dma will be active when it plays something
11:21 < rvvs89> so don't worry about that  message
11:22 < matt322> yea i dont know how else to run it
11:22 < Gekkko> multiple virtual terminals
11:22 < Gekkko> the ipod needs screen!
11:22 < rvvs89> Gekkko: works, but only when you have the buttons
11:22 < matt322> yea i have no idea how 2 do that
11:23 < Gekkko> Settings > advanced > omfg vt
11:23 < rvvs89> well, I don't think you can press all the buttons at once on a 5G
11:23 < matt322> well its physically possible lol
11:23 < daniel_washere> im off
11:23 < daniel_washere> see ya
11:23 < Gekkko> bye
11:23 < rvvs89> bai
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11:23 < Gekkko> no its not matt322
11:24 < Gekkko> ive done it >_>!
11:24 < rvvs89> video proof pls
11:24 < Gekkko> get one hand
11:24 < Gekkko> put ur thumb on the middle button
11:24 < Gekkko> place other fingers on the otehr
11:24 < Gekkko> omfg.
11:24 < matt322> ok my bad....ur obviously talking about the actual physical 4 buttons plus middle
11:24 < matt322> not talking*
11:25 < Gekkko> lol
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11:25 < Gekkko> what do YOU mean
11:25 < Gekkko> lol
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11:30 < Gekkko> hmm rvvs89, DataGhostUni: know of a good GBA emulator for Linux
11:30 < Gekkko> and/or a frontend?
11:30 < rvvs89> OpenPlay
11:30 < rvvs89> oh wait...
11:30 < Gekkko> it doesnt do anything yet rvvs89
11:30 < Gekkko> lol
11:31 < rvvs89> lol, i know, it's an interesting idea though
11:31 < Gekkko> I want it to be WM portable
11:31 < rvvs89> I just know it will never be able to use my 3D hardware without seriously paingul tweeking
11:31 < Gekkko> would be nice to run it as a windowed app
11:35 < DataGhostUni> // openplay.c
11:35 < DataGhostUni> int main() { printf("Hello world!\n"); return 0; }
11:35 < rvvs89> lol
11:35 < Gekkko> lol is it really?
11:36 < rvvs89> nah, they've started work somewhere else in svn
11:37 < rvvs89> http://tools.assembla.com/svn/osgc/source/alpha.c
11:37 < Gekkko> I just found VBA Express
11:38 < Gekkko> nice frontend to VBA for Linux
11:38 < Gekkko> everybody wins
11:38 < rvvs89> :D
11:38 < DataGhostUni> if anything should be made punishable by law
11:39 < DataGhostUni> VBA would be the first candidate
11:39 < Gekkko> VBA as in
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11:40 < DataGhostUni> as in anything with 'Visual Basic' in its name
11:40 < rvvs89> visual boy advanced...
11:40 < DataGhostUni> oh
11:40 < DataGhostUni> lol
11:40 < rvvs89> :P
11:41 < Gekkko> you lose DataGhostUni
11:41 < Gekkko> lol
11:41 < DataGhostUni> heh
11:41 < DataGhostUni> seriously, I had to use access for 2 months :/
11:41 < DataGhostUni> once I created a report
11:41 < DataGhostUni> after about 2-3 hours I was done
11:41 < DataGhostUni> (it had subreports)
11:42 < DataGhostUni> turns out that it changed _ALL_ field names from my subreports to 'ExprX' with X being 1..N and N being the last field
11:42 < DataGhostUni> BUT!
11:42 < Gekkko> it took people a semester to do that here
11:42 < Gekkko> It took me 2 days
11:42 < DataGhostUni> it still accessed the contents! with the original fieldnames!
11:42 < DataGhostUni> but! it implicitly converted int fields to char
11:42 < DataGhostUni> showing all kinds of CRAP etc and I couldn't figure out why
11:42 < Gekkko> but you didnt care
11:42 < Gekkko> you were done
11:42 < Gekkko> now fuck it off
11:42 < DataGhostUni> because they worked perfectly as subreports
11:42 < Gekkko> lol
11:43 < DataGhostUni> no I wasn't done, I had to go and fix it, heh.
11:43 < DataGhostUni> just a lucky coincidence that I noticed that the fieldnames were different all of a sudden
12:00 < Gekkko> rvvs89: have you used VBA on Linux?
12:00 < rvvs89> no, I haven't used any games on linux
12:01 < Gekkko> :O!
12:01 < Gekkko> INFIDEL
12:01 < Gekkko> lol
12:01 < rvvs89> lol
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12:09 < DerPapst> Good afternoon
12:09 < DerPapst> :)
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12:09 < DerPapst> hi DataGhostUni :)
12:10 < DataGhostUni> hey :)
12:10 < DataGhostUni> kill kill kill!
12:10 < DataGhostUni> kill this user please :)
12:10 < DataGhostUni> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=User:WhiteN%27Nerdy/MacOSPod&curid=3789&action=history
12:10 < DataGhostUni> http://ipodlinux.org/Template:Omgwtfbbq
12:10 < DataGhostUni> copypaste from notepad
12:10 < DataGhostUni> :)
12:11 < DerPapst> DataGhostUni: currently it's not possible to block someone on the wiki. All other users (except sysops) will be blocked too.
12:11 < DataGhostUni> heh?
12:11 < DataGhostUni> hm
12:11 < DerPapst> evey user has the ip from ipolinux.org ^^
12:11 < DataGhostUni> bad me actually
12:11 < DataGhostUni> I didn't even revert the changes
12:11 < DataGhostUni> oh lol
12:11 < DataGhostUni> proxy?
12:11 < DerPapst> seems so
12:12 < DerPapst> bth this user is Gekkko[PDA]
12:12 < DerPapst> *btw
12:13 < DerPapst> actually i find the Omgwtfbbq funny
12:13 < DataGhostUni> yeah maybe a little bit :) but not appropriate :)
12:13 < DerPapst> add "template" where it fits
12:13 < DerPapst> true
12:13 < DerPapst> but i mean... MacOSPod :-/
12:14 < DerPapst> that is the dumpest i've ever heared ^^
12:16 < DataGhostUni> hehe
12:16  * DerPapst wants to see WhiteN'Neardy's reaction
12:18 < DerPapst> rvvs89: nice text on the xzilla talk page btw ;)
12:20 < DerPapst> too bad <blink> doesn't work in IE
12:21 < DerPapst> *doesn't work at the wiki at all
12:35 < DerPapst> meh.. blink works... as i've proven it 5 minutes ago...
12:46 < DerPapst> DataGhostUni: while reading he logs... i wanted you to compile a kernel that works on all iPods (including your nano fix) and uploading it somewhere (preferrably the wiki)
12:46 < DerPapst> *please :)
12:46 < DataGhostUni> ah yeah I'll put it in my notes
12:46 < DataGhostUni> :)
12:46 < DataGhostUni> I'll do that asap
12:47 < DataGhostUni> I already have it though :P but I misplaced it
12:47 < DataGhostUni> or something
12:47 < DerPapst> btw... there is a volume fix patch for 5G and 5.5G iPod availabe too.
12:47 < DataGhostUni> but no worries, I still have the patches
12:47 < DataGhostUni> volu
12:47 < DataGhostUni> oh
12:47 < DerPapst> maybe you could add that too.
12:47 < DataGhostUni> that kind of volume
12:47 < DataGhostUni> I was thinking harddrives and such :)
12:47 < DerPapst> but i'm not 100% if the patch is ok
12:47 < DataGhostUni> well I'll build both then if I feel like it :)
12:48 < DerPapst> kk.
12:48 < rvvs89> DerPapst: 'lo and ta
12:49 < DerPapst> DataGhostUni: link is here http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=205389#205389
12:49 < rvvs89> brb caffeine
12:49 < DerPapst> brb food :P
12:50 < DataGhostUni> hm looks fine
12:50 < DataGhostUni> I don't see any breakable stuff there if this works
12:50 < DataGhostUni> :P
12:52 < DataGhostUni> lol @ jxdtwhatshisname
12:54 < DataGhostUni> "its good to have a new person who knows some C!" :o it's just maths, not C :/
12:58 < DerPapst> hehe
12:59 < Gekkko[PDA]> lol
12:59 < DerPapst> brb again... "driving around im my car..."
12:59 < Gekkko[PDA]> >.>
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13:37 < rvvs89> back
13:37 < rvvs89> with caffeine
13:37 < rvvs89> :D
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13:59 < rvvs89> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26501
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14:05 < BleuLlama> tha'ts sad
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14:06 < rvvs89> it is really, there should be a minimum age for owning an iPod
14:10 < rvvs89> wow, this is so confusing, HD_LCD_Init returns now...
14:12 < rvvs89> holy crap, ROFL is unregistered...
14:12  * rvvs89 registers ROFL
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14:13 < rvvs89> no, apparently it is registered :(
14:19 < rvvs89> Gekkko[PDA]: know any good Australia based web hosts?
14:19 < Gekkko[PDA]> no
14:19 < Gekkko[PDA]> theyre all shit
14:19 < rvvs89> cool
14:19 < Gekkko[PDA]> 10mbit max >.>
14:19 < rvvs89> o_O
14:19 < Gekkko[PDA]> www.resellerspanel.com
14:19 < Gekkko[PDA]> they rock
14:20 < Gekkko[PDA]> so very cheap
14:20 < rvvs89> affiliate program eh?
14:20 < Gekkko[PDA]> only if u want
14:20 < rvvs89> you should become an affiliate, that way you can make moneys from refering me
14:21 < Gekkko[PDA]> im not in it for that
14:21 < rvvs89> :P righto
14:21 < rvvs89> bah, I need something that doesn't need a credit card
14:22 < rvvs89> I could go down to the bank and get a credit card, but I cbf
14:22 < Gekkko[PDA]> resellers does paypal i believe
14:22 < Gekkko[PDA]> or get hosting off ebhay
14:22 < Gekkko[PDA]> $10 for a year
14:24 < BleuLlama> IIRC, the pipe to Australia is expensive, you might be better off going for a hosting company on another continent
14:26 < Gekkko[PDA]> and slow
14:26 < Gekkko[PDA]> ipl.org is slow BleuLlama 
14:26 < Gekkko[PDA]> >.>
14:28 < rvvs89> it seems about the same as sys-techs imo
14:29 < rvvs89> yeah, it's just the credit card part... but I have a solution I think
14:29 < rvvs89> for the moment anyway
14:30 < rvvs89> UCC (university computer club) is getting a fibre connection
14:36 < rvvs89> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/
14:36 < rvvs89> success!
14:37 < rvvs89> so... now I can make a page in command line emacs over ssh...
14:37 < rvvs89> Web 2.0 guyz
14:41 < rvvs89> Spam: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26506
14:41 < Gekkko[PDA]> lo
14:41 < Gekkko[PDA]> ol 
14:42 < rvvs89> http://rvvs89.ucc.asn.au/
14:43 < rvvs89> that url looks better I suppose
14:47 < rvvs89> BleLlama: ta
14:47 < BleuLlama> for what?
14:48 < rvvs89> rm of spam
14:48 < BleuLlama> okay.  when did i do that?
14:48 < rvvs89> I assume just now, as it's no longer there, and your name is in the list of most recent posts
14:48 < rvvs89> s/posts/activity
14:55 < rvvs89> I'm off, laters
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17:33 < imbecile> hey guys, I am an ubuntu feisty fawn user with a 5g video trying to use the installer and I am getting these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29619/ anyone know how i can fix it?
17:36 < imbecile> keep in mind i have no idea what i'm doing with this
17:37 < imbecile> I also tried the installer on my sisters winbox with no luck.. the install errored out on that as well
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18:01 < imbecile> hey guys, I am an ubuntu feisty fawn user with a 5g video trying to use the installer and I am getting these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29619/ anyone know how i can fix it?
18:03 < imbecile> if I were using windows could i get more help? I will install it on a windows box if that can make it easier to get help
18:04 < juano> someone ever made the Rokr E1 sync with itunes under Linux with wine ??
18:05 < imbecile> juano,  I'm pretty sure its dead in here
18:05 < juano> yea
18:05 < cdm> :)
18:05 < juano> tell me bout it
18:06 < juano> lol
18:06 < imbecile> hello cdm
18:06 < cdm> hey guys
18:06 < juano> anyway, u can still upload music to the memory
18:06 < cdm> so devs might find my resume interesting when I update it
18:06 < imbecile> cdm, do i recognize you from ubuntu channel?
18:07 < cdm> don't think so.  Maybe Debian a long time ago
18:07 < imbecile> ahhh
18:08 < imbecile> either of you guys know what the deal with the linux installer is? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29619/
18:10 < imbecile> now my sysinfo file is messed up :(
18:10  * DerPapst won't use that installer yet.
18:10 < DerPapst> too buggy
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18:11 < imbecile> DerPapst,  hehe i just figured that  out i think
18:11 < DerPapst> if you're already on linux better do a manual installation.
18:11 < imbecile> i think i lost my backup due to a crash and i need to fix sysinfo now
18:12 < DerPapst> there are some on the wiki
18:12 < DerPapst> are you sure it's a 5G and not a 5.5G?
18:12 < imbecile> cool deal
18:12 < imbecile> DerPapst,  yeah its a 60gb
18:12 < DerPapst> k
18:12 < DerPapst> ;)
18:13 < DerPapst> http://www.ipodlinux.org/SysInfo
18:14 < DerPapst> and you have to use the netless installer
18:14 < imbecile> soo just a question... why wouldnt i just ditch apple firmware? ipodlinux can do everything the apple firmware can right?? AND BETTER!!! hehe
18:14 < DerPapst> if you want to use installer 2
18:14 < imbecile> sorry i had to yell that
18:14 < DerPapst> not really sadly
18:14 < DerPapst> it can do other things.
18:14 < imbecile> DerPapst,  what doesnt it do?
18:15 < DerPapst> but batterylife is 50% compared to the OF
18:15 < DerPapst> and misuc playback is kinda PITA
18:15 < imbecile> ouch.. that most definately is a drawback
18:15 < DerPapst> and video playback is sloooooow
18:15 < imbecile> oh well, it  is still in dev so there is still hope for someday
18:16 < DerPapst> you might want to checkout rockbox for music playback though
18:17 < imbecile> DerPapst,  so if i were watching video i'd only get like an hour playback? (normally 2 with apple firmware)
18:17  * DerPapst triple boots AppleOS, rockbox and iPL :)
18:18 < DerPapst> video = 3fps or less...
18:18 < DerPapst> you don't want to watch video in iPL with an iPod video
18:18 < DerPapst> mor with a nano
18:18 < DerPapst> *mer
18:18 < DerPapst> *more
18:18 < DerPapst> :P
18:19 < imbecile> ouch
18:19 < DerPapst> the mpegplayer plugin from rockbox surely does a better job (can't seek though)
18:20 < DerPapst> but for video playback i would always use the OF until the boradcom chip is figured out.
18:20 < DerPapst> which might never happen
18:21 < imbecile> DerPapst,  you ever play roms with it? whats battery life like on that? is that pretty stable on most games?
18:22 < DerPapst> i only tried iboy so far.. it's pretty good. all the other emus aren't realtime yet (except iPodMame afaik).
18:22 < DerPapst> but idarcnes sould be good too.
18:22 < DerPapst> and i'Ve tired iDoom with is nice as well ;)
18:22 < DerPapst> *eich
18:22 < DerPapst> *which
18:22 < imbecile> im anxious to get this running
18:23 < DerPapst> anyways...
18:23  * DerPapst is afk --> food
18:23 < imbecile> thanks for yr help
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19:08 < john38562> has anyone hear seen anything about linuxds and its progress?
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21:14 < daniel_washere> Fix your ipods menu button DerPapst?
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21:34 < DerPapst> already when reported...
21:35 < daniel_washere> huh...
21:35  * daniel_washere reads previously logs
21:43 < daniel_washere> 3.81GB normal for a mini?
21:43 < daniel_washere> i installed IPL though its not coming up in linux, nor does it have the partition :/
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21:57 < daniel_washere> -_-
21:57 < daniel_washere> /dev/sdc3             990        1023      128520   83  Linux
21:57 < daniel_washere> Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
21:57 < daniel_washere>      phys=(0, 0, 0) logical=(989, 19, 20)
21:57 < daniel_washere> Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
21:57 < daniel_washere>      phys=(0, 0, 0) logical=(1022, 7, 7)
21:57 < daniel_washere> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
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22:31 < daniel_washere> o_o
22:31 < daniel_washere> great
22:31 < daniel_washere> whats wrong with IPL
22:31 < daniel_washere> even manual install on a mini goes wrong
22:31 < daniel_washere> There are no more partitions according to mbr
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23:58 < scorche> HellDragon: bidet
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