--- Log opened Mon May 07 00:00:01 2007 00:08 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-24-8-151-128.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:14 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-113.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-113.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 00:50 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ["90% of the PM's received by female nicks are sex related. 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I then individualized Apple's OS and re-inserted it into the Linux bootloader after recoding." 08:34 < DerPapst> i don't understand a word ^^ 08:35 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has joined #ipodlinux 08:48 < lex> :D 08:48 < lex> you're not alone 09:03 < lex> ppppppphhhhhhh paint shop pro sucks 09:03 < lex> tried to do that "ipod - the portable kernel compiler" image 09:04 < lex> but... no, paint shop pro doesn't handle resizing a layer by my own hand or anything more 09:29 -!- bersace [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has joined #ipodlinux 09:45 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ["90% of the PM's received by female nicks are sex related. Is this because this network full of wankers?"] 10:18 -!- rvvs89 [n=rvvs89@203.161.71.242.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:21 < rvvs89> lol: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=206722&highlight=#206722 10:22 < DerPapst> well 10:23 < DerPapst> thats exactly the same post i've quoted in here about 2 hours ago :P 10:23 < rvvs89> ehehe 10:23 < DerPapst> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24236 10:23 < DerPapst> ;) 10:23 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 10:23 < rvvs89> an annoying fellow i must say 10:24 < rvvs89> he's using thename1000 to support his meohyeah accout 10:29 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 10:30 < DerPapst> i guess so. 10:30 < DerPapst> not sure but are mods able to figure out if someone has 2 or more forum accounts? 10:31 < rvvs89> i believe so 10:32 * DerPapst looks at fxb... 10:32 < rvvs89> but i don't think it'll be easy if he's using a proxy lol 10:32 < rvvs89> imo there's no question of it after that thread lol 10:33 < rvvs89> "I simply did a re-kernel subdivision of all the major parts, compiled and did some final manual check sums to make sure everything is ok. I then individualized Apple's OS and re-inserted it into the Linux bootloader after recoding." 10:33 < DerPapst> yeah... i do that daily... 10:33 < DerPapst> where's the problem? 10:33 < rvvs89> yep, good to see that he did those manual check sums... 10:34 < DerPapst> übertrivial 10:34 < rvvs89> 2thamax 10:34 < rvvs89> i don't think it's good if he's deliberately setting out to confuse people 10:35 < rvvs89> he makes this rubbish seem like "the only way" to get Apple OS working 10:35 < DerPapst> heh.. but it' still kinda funny ^^ 10:36 < rvvs89> agreed lol 10:40 -!- [Sur`DataGho [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:41 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:41 -!- [Sur`DataGho [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 10:44 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has quit [] 10:50 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit ["leaving"] 10:55 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has joined #ipodlinux 11:14 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB258E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 11:14 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:15 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 11:24 -!- SnowFox [n=SnowFox@38.106.84.58.dynamic.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:26 -!- SnowFox [n=SnowFox@38.106.84.58.dynamic.vic.chariot.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 11:32 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 11:47 -!- Davo_Dinkum [n=david@c58-107-223-218.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:52 < Davo_Dinkum> Can ipodlinux completely replace the apple firmware? 11:54 < kick52> yes 11:54 < kick52> but i dont know if you can make it work like that 11:54 < Davo_Dinkum> In what way? 11:56 -!- c-r0b [n=emagin3@adsl-68-91-115-165.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 12:00 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has quit [] 12:03 < rvvs89> do you mean, can it have the same functionality as the apple firmware? 12:03 < rvvs89> or can you get rid of the apple firmware entirely 12:03 < Davo_Dinkum> Get rid of apple firmware entirely 12:03 < Davo_Dinkum> rvvs89: 12:04 < rvvs89> yeah you can 12:04 < rvvs89> you'd need to modify the installation steps 12:04 < Davo_Dinkum> Oh good 12:05 < Davo_Dinkum> modify :( 12:05 < Davo_Dinkum> *modify? :( 12:05 < rvvs89> well, yeah, the current method keeps a fat32 partition (assuming winpod) 12:06 < rvvs89> also, the firmware partition (1st one) 12:06 < Davo_Dinkum> So deleting the 1st partition would wipe the appl e firmware? 12:06 < Davo_Dinkum> *apple 12:07 < rvvs89> yep but afaik it would delete the bootloader as well 12:07 < Davo_Dinkum> the ipodlinux bootloader? 12:07 < rvvs89> yep 12:07 < rvvs89> i assume you can do it 12:07 < rvvs89> using some different steps with make_fw 12:08 < rvvs89> any devs want to share some info here? 12:08 -!- Soap_ [n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap] has joined #ipodlinux 12:09 < Davo_Dinkum> Bummer. Bootloaders are kind of hady. 12:09 < Davo_Dinkum> *handy. 12:09 -!- Soap [n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:10 < rvvs89> indeed 12:10 < rvvs89> kind of essential 12:17 < rvvs89> http://www.ipodlinux.org/5g#Create_Bootloader_Image 12:17 < rvvs89> there 12:17 < rvvs89> if you run that 12:17 < rvvs89> but don't include apple_os.bin 12:17 < rvvs89> it can replace it entirely 12:18 < rvvs89> you can also scale the linux partition until it takes up almost the whole iPod 12:19 < rvvs89> however I don't know how the bootloader would act if ipodlinux was the only partition 12:19 < rvvs89> *ext3 12:19 -!- bersace [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 12:50 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.184.129] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:51 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has joined #ipodlinux 12:53 -!- Davo_Dinkum [n=david@c58-107-223-218.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["leaving"] 13:04 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host250-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 13:04 -!- Aicart [n=aideb_xc@101.Red-88-14-237.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:08 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 13:19 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:21 -!- bersace_ [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has joined #ipodlinux 13:33 -!- bersace_ [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 13:33 -!- bersace_ [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has joined #ipodlinux 13:34 -!- Aicart [n=aideb_xc@101.Red-88-14-237.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["En Felip de nit veu visions, les cadires semblen lleons. 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HELP ME IPODLUNIX BROK MY IPOD~~!!!@£!!!!!!@!!!1@12!!!! HELP PLZZZZZ 17:26 < kick52> over and over 17:26 < kick52> itss sooooooooo funy 17:26 < Qgel> hehe 17:26 < kick52> *funny 17:26 < rvvs89> in the wrong sub forum too 17:26 < kick52> yeah 17:26 < rvvs89> like in software development lol 17:26 < rvvs89> HOW DO I IGPSP?? 17:26 -!- Spiritus55 [n=chatzill@168.11.212.1] has joined #ipodlinux 17:26 < Spiritus55> Well... 17:27 < Spiritus55> When did this pop up? 17:27 < kick52> rvvs89: igpsp? 17:27 < kick52> Spiritus55: the channel? ages ago 17:27 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:27 < Spiritus55> Is it normal on iDoom for the person to keep turning in one direction? 17:27 < Spiritus55> Until you hit the button he's turning to, then he stops? 17:28 < kick52> dont think so 17:28 < Qgel> well no one got an idea how i could fix this? i really want IPL on my ipod... 17:28 < kick52> didnt happen to me 17:28 < Spiritus55> Dang.. 17:28 < kick52> Qgel: suppose you could try installing again 17:28 < Qgel> i installed it 2 times already.. 17:28 < kick52> hmmm 17:28 < kick52> one min 17:28 < Qgel> with both of the partition options avaible 17:28 < Spiritus55> Qgel: go to youtube, then search for "how to installipod linux on a nano" 17:28 < Spiritus55> THen; watch the video with the british guy... 17:29 < Spiritus55> If it is indeed a nano 17:29 < Qgel> i got IPL installed already spiritus55 17:29 < kick52> wait 17:29 < Qgel> its a 1st generation 2GB nano 17:29 < kick52> i found this 17:29 < Spiritus55> THis one I got was totally different. 17:29 < kick52> http://ipodlinux.org:81/ticket/1 17:29 < Qgel> but i dont see any music 17:29 < Spiritus55> It just said "install" 17:29 < Qgel> although its on the ipod 17:29 < Spiritus55> Then I hit it.. and it installed. 17:30 < kick52> downgrade firmware to less than 1.2 17:30 < rvvs89> kick52: this guy is the most annoying/amusing I've seen: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25179 17:30 < Spiritus55> It was easier than all the other ones I had found... 17:30 < rvvs89> night all 17:30 -!- rvvs89 [n=rvvs89@203.161.71.242.static.amnet.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:30 < Qgel> mhh how can i downgrade it? 17:31 < kick52> download the old apple updater 17:31 < Qgel> i got the 1.1.1 installer from the wiki , installed it but then my linux was gone 17:31 < kick52> yeah 17:31 < kick52> it will go 17:31 < kick52> because it wipes the ipod 17:31 < kick52> so install that 17:31 < kick52> then install ipl 17:33 < Qgel> lol, after i used the 1.1.1 installer my itunes wont start.. 17:34 < kick52> ok 17:34 < kick52> reinstall itunes 17:34 < kick52> heh 17:34 -!- hostf4cekilla [n=chatzill@pool-70-22-207-151.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]"] 17:36 -!- hostf4cekilla [n=chatzill@pool-70-22-207-151.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 < Spiritus55> I sure wish I could find the start and podzilla files... 17:37 < Qgel> k, works again ^^ 17:37 < Spiritus55> I can't ever find those files in the installerIJ have... 17:37 < Spiritus55> Any help? 17:37 < kick52> podzilla files are in linux partition i believe 17:38 < Spiritus55> Would it matter if I'm on windows? 17:38 < Spiritus55> Or should I get the files anyway? 17:38 < Spiritus55> Then put them in my iPod? 17:38 < Qgel> kick52? 17:38 < kick52> oh 17:39 < Qgel> my ipod got firmware 1.1.1 17:39 < Qgel> and IPL installed 17:39 < kick52> ok cool 17:39 < kick52> now try putting music on 17:39 < Qgel> i can see my music in itunes 17:39 < Qgel> but not on my ipod 17:39 < kick52> yeah 17:39 < kick52> hmmm 17:39 < kick52> i dont know.. 17:39 < kick52> post a topic in the forums 17:40 < kick52> Spiritus55: if you want to put stuff onto the linux partition from windows, you make a start file that copies the stuff from the windows partition to the linux partition 17:40 < Qgel> lol? it works now :) just unticked the "use as volume" thing in itunes 17:40 < kick52> haha 17:40 < kick52> cool 17:41 < Spiritus55> I keep hearing about people saying that (I have the same problem) whenever it's booting, that the /hp/start file can't befound... is that important? 17:41 -!- Spiritus55 [n=chatzill@168.11.212.1] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]"] 17:41 < Qgel> thank you soooo much kick ^^ 17:41 < kick52> thats ok 17:42 < Qgel> lets see if i can also see my music on linux 17:42 < kick52> you should be able to 17:43 < kick52> Qgel: which loader are you using 17:45 < Qgel> the 2.0 17:46 < kick52> oh ok 17:47 < Qgel> mhh where should i be able to see my music on linux? cant find it *lol 17:47 < kick52> which podzilla are you on? 17:48 < Qgel> 2 17:48 < kick52> because podzilla 1 can play music just like the music section on the apple firmware 17:48 < kick52> ok, do you have mpd installed? 17:48 < Qgel> uhhm i dont know Oo 17:48 < Qgel> i guess thats the problem ^^ 17:48 < kick52> oh 17:49 < kick52> if you want to playmusic like in apple firmware, i'd get podzilla 1 17:50 < Qgel> does it also have these cool decorations and themes? 17:51 < kick52> yeah 17:52 < c0nsumer> do any of you have the actual apple docs on the iPod's serial data connection available? 17:53 < Qgel> hmm when i start the IPL installer now to install podzilla 1 it says my IPL partition is damaged... 17:53 < Qgel> i think i will just reinstall it completely... 17:56 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2E89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:57 < DerPapst> hi 17:57 < DerPapst> Qgel: do not downgrade the frimware. 17:57 * DerPapst slaps kick52 :P 17:57 < Qgel> why? 17:58 < Qgel> i just resetted my IPod with Itunes 17:58 < DerPapst> it's not necessary. 17:58 < DerPapst> ok. 17:58 < DerPapst> wait a sec... 17:58 < Qgel> uhmm u'r german? ;) 17:58 < DerPapst> how do you install iPL on your nano? 17:58 < DerPapst> mais oui :P 17:58 < DerPapst> you too? 17:59 < Qgel> oja 17:59 < Qgel> *ja 17:59 < DerPapst> then /join #ipodlinux-de 18:08 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has quit [] 18:18 -!- david1 [n=david52@84.72.254.113] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 -!- david1 [n=david52@84.72.254.113] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:19 -!- Aicart [n=aideb_xc@101.Red-88-14-237.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:20 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 -!- screwt8 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-59c86217bb469b69] has joined #ipodlinux 18:21 < kick52> heh derpapst! 18:21 * kick52 slaps DerPapst back 18:21 < DerPapst> ;) 18:21 < DerPapst> *ouch* 18:22 < DerPapst> kich52: there is no need to downgrade the nanos fw. 18:23 < kick52> oh 18:23 < kick52> its just that i saw that ticket 18:23 < DerPapst> if one follows the loaderinstructions for 5G users the apple fw works as expected. 18:23 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:23 < DerPapst> it's all about the rsrc image. 18:24 < DerPapst> i've tried to explain it as easy as possible in that ticket. 18:28 -!- RxDx [i=LINUX@201-75-175-90-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 18:44 -!- jeed [n=jeed@88.144.66.154] has joined #ipodlinux 18:44 < jeed> hi 18:46 < jeed> im looking for advice on writing programs to run on ipodlinux, if anyones botherd/here 18:46 < courtc> don't write in java 18:46 < kick52> yeah 18:46 < kick52> haha 18:46 < jeed> i wouldnt go near java 18:47 < courtc> Don't use the windows API 18:47 * aegray fucked that one up a few times 18:47 < courtc> Don't eat flaming marshmellows. 18:47 < jeed> or ask a question on freenode and expect a intelligent answer 18:47 < aegray> lol 18:48 < courtc> You asked for advise. 18:48 < c0nsumer> is the IPLBasic IDE done yet 18:48 < aegray> jeed: it's the same as writing a program anywhere else 18:48 < courtc> I gave you exactly what you asked for. 18:48 < aegray> afaik 18:48 < jeed> lol, i doubt writing any old program and sticking it on there would work 18:48 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Ipod_programming 18:48 < aegray> jeed: yea you have to use different apis 18:48 < jeed> been there 18:48 < aegray> but its the same idea 18:48 < aegray> have a big loop with tons of gotos and you're set 18:49 < courtc> haha 18:49 < jeed> gotos? thats old skool 18:49 < courtc> No, it isn't. 18:49 < courtc> It never was skool. 18:49 < jeed> lol, never ever used a goto in programming 18:50 < c0nsumer> not even asm? 18:50 < jeed> dont code asm 18:50 < c0nsumer> ah 18:50 < courtc> They are good for error escapes within a function. 18:50 < jeed> i know of the stack but fuck writing it in that level 18:51 < courtc> c0nsumer: There are no 'gotos' in asm. 18:51 < aegray> courtc: .global goto goto: b r0 :) 18:51 < jeed> there is any function in asm 18:51 < courtc> goto: b goto 18:51 < jeed> provided you write it first :P 18:52 < courtc> aegray: cute, really. 18:52 < courtc> not a waste of time at all. 18:53 < c0nsumer> microchip's asm sure seems to have GOTO 18:53 < aegray> its a macro! 18:53 < courtc> .macro goto reg\n\tb \reg 18:53 < c0nsumer> well, yes. but it's predefined. 18:53 < courtc> It's not asm if it's a macro. 18:53 < aegray> oo courtc I forgot what was the keys to scroll up in a console window? 18:53 < aegray> ctrl+something 18:54 < courtc> What seriously? shift+pgup 18:54 < aegray> lol 18:54 < aegray> thanks 18:54 < courtc> no problem. 18:57 < courtc> jeed: If you have more specific questions, ask. I don't know what you are attempting to do, so I can't point you in the right direction. 18:57 < aegray> he wants a program that does everything. he said that 18:57 < courtc> aegray: want to write me an ISR? :) 18:58 * aegray workin on final projects 18:58 < aegray> what isr thoguh? 18:58 < DerPapst> yay... i wan that program that does everything... imagine what you can do with it... 18:59 < aegray> i could probably add numbers with it 18:59 < aegray> thats what i want to do 18:59 < courtc> meh, just a dispatcher. 18:59 < courtc> an adding ISR? haha. 19:00 < courtc> I think I may turn ccos into an exokernel, with a uclinux libOS 19:00 < aegray> oh god 19:00 < aegray> you are too ambitious 19:01 < courtc> There's really only one exokernel out there... 19:01 -!- jeed [n=jeed@88.144.66.154] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:01 < aegray> lol 19:01 < aegray> i dont think he liked us 19:01 < courtc> What's there not to like? 19:01 < DerPapst> courtc: btw luck with ccos on 5G iPods? 19:02 < courtc> nah, I don't have one, and I haven't really touched lcd code lately. 19:02 < courtc> I've been working on making my scheduler reentrant, 90% there. 19:02 < DerPapst> oh.. i thought it was only that missing clear screen wahtever command :P 19:03 < DerPapst> sounds nice though :) 19:03 < courtc> Nah, it may just be that I'm missing some initialization, but I dunno. 19:03 < DerPapst> heh.. ok ;) 19:04 < courtc> I can let you look over the lcd code if you're interested. 19:04 < DerPapst> well... i can try it ^^ 19:04 < courtc> aegray: Yea, I don't know how to detect which ISR... 19:05 < DerPapst> do you have the whole code online? 19:05 < courtc> Yea... 19:05 < courtc> It's um.. slightly broken atm. 19:05 < DerPapst> heh... 19:06 < DerPapst> then i guess i better wait until it's unbroken again... ^^ 19:06 < courtc> It'll still work to display the text, but syscall code is munged. 19:06 < DerPapst> ah ok 19:19 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host250-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 -!- RoCkEr_ [i=RoCkEr_@85.8.2.185.se.wasadata.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:27 < RoCkEr_> I tried to use installer 2.3 on my 2GB nano and now my computer wont recognize my ipod anymore... any ideas? 19:27 -!- c0nsumer [n=c0nsumer@rowla.nuxx.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:28 < fxb> diskmode & restore. 19:29 < RoCkEr_> it wont go into diskmode.. thats part of the problem.. and even if it would i wont have a drive to restore because it's not visible in windows 19:29 < fxb> It always will go into diskmode. 19:30 < DerPapst> connect it to your pc before using the combo for diskmode. 19:31 < RoCkEr_> If i connect it to my pc then press center+menu to restart, then try to go into diskmode with center+play it doesnt work, all i get is the blue text runnig by my ipod screen... 19:31 < DerPapst> then you're not dast enough 19:31 < DerPapst> *fast 19:32 < DerPapst> right after the screen flickes hit menu + play/pause 19:32 < DerPapst> sa fas as you can 19:32 < DerPapst> *fast 19:32 < RoCkEr_> great! now it works! thanks... sorry for being a dumbass 19:33 < DerPapst> ;) 19:37 < aegray> courtc: when you say detect which isr what do you mean? 19:37 < aegray> whihc interrupt is firing? 19:37 * aegray finds someone to do his homework for him 19:38 < courtc> yes. 19:40 < aegray> you read from 0x64004000 or something of the sort and check the bitmasks for each interrupt 19:40 < courtc> ahha 19:53 -!- RoCkEr_ [i=RoCkEr_@85.8.2.185.se.wasadata.net] has quit [] 20:42 -!- Qgel [n=Qgel-Ear@xdsl-87-78-113-141.netcologne.de] has quit ["guts nächtle xD"] 20:55 < DerPapst> good night at all 20:55 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2E89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 21:03 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.227.127] has quit [] 21:17 -!- RedDak [n=dak@host250-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["I'm quitting... 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