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00:57 < Sivart0> i am so damn sick of tornadoes <_<
01:06 < aegray_> lol
01:06 < aegray_> where do you live?
01:06 < Sivart0> kansas
01:06 < aegray_> thatd make sense
01:06 < aegray_> move!
01:06 < Sivart0> one missed us lastnight
01:06 < Sivart0> barely
01:07 < Sivart0> the same one that wiped out greensburg
01:07 < aegray_> wow
01:08 < Sivart0> few more missed us tonight
01:11 < m_atmanek> hah
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03:25 < buffer> I broke the little lever on the logic board that secures the ribbon to the logic board..
03:25 < buffer> It's the ribbon for sound.. I can hear sound if I hold the ribbon there.. wondering if anyone knew a way to secure it 
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03:31 < aegray_> tape it!
03:32 < dano_washere_> YaY chat
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04:04 < Silivrenion> hey, having a slight problem with the installer application
04:05 < Silivrenion> Installer 2 on both Windows XP and Windows Vista crashes when it tries to start formatting my iPod. I have a 5Gen iPod, the installer will back it up to a file right, but when it tries to access the partition in the installer, the application just crashes
04:08 < Silivrenion> this is with the newest installer 2 aso
04:09 < Silivrenion> aso
04:09 < Silivrenion> also*
04:09 < Silivrenion> can anyone offer any help?
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04:34 < buffer> help me secure my ribbon to the logic bord
04:34 < buffer> board
04:34 < aegray_> tape!
04:35 < aegray_> you might want to ask in an electronics chatroom
04:35 < buffer> I already did.
04:35 < aegray_> :(
04:35 < buffer> aegray_: what kind of tape you recommend
04:35 < aegray_> buffer:  i really don't know - that's probably not the correct answer
04:35 < aegray_> but electric tape if your going to do it
04:36 < buffer> Well.. it's so sensitive... I gotta hold it in the perfect place
04:36 < buffer> I don't know if tape will be able to put the pressure on it that it needs
04:36 < aegray_> yea - i've broken one of those once before and couldnt get it fixed - had to send it in
04:36 < aegray_> (not an ipod)
04:37 < buffer> Yeah it sucks.. $250 dollar device and it isn't functioning because I can't make a connection to 5 wires
04:37 < buffer> It's out of warranty
04:37 < buffer> as well.
04:38 < aegray_> ask davidc__ if hes ever around
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04:40 < buffer> thanks aegray_.
04:40 < aegray_> np
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06:19 < buffer> anyone know a fuckin' of any kind of ipod dock headphones
06:19 < buffer> or ipod cable that connects to the dock and provides a headphone input
06:22 < BHSPitMonkey> watch your fuckin' language in here
06:27 < buffer> scary.
06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> that would be a stupid idea, as the line-out signal isn't amplified
06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> it would be super-quiet and you'd have no control over the volume
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11:43 < Silivrenion> anyone alive?
11:43 < Pimpdaddypayne> Anyone ever used vmware w/ Windows Guest OS to install ipodlinux?
11:44 < JohnNy64-konik> err, I think vmware doesn't support iPods very well...
11:44 < Silivrenion> i'm having issues with the installer
11:44 < JohnNy64-konik> once I was trying to access an iPod from within a vmware win guest and it didn't detect the iPod properly
11:44 < Pimpdaddypayne> JohnNy64-konik, the linux ipod installer doesn't work here.. so I thought I would try it w/ vmware + windows + win32 ipodlinux installer
11:44 < Silivrenion> on both windows xp and vista, with my 5Gen ipod, after backing up the firmware where the installer goesto format the iPod partitions, it just crashes
11:45 < JohnNy64-konik> err, I have no idea and it is already a while since I was using iPL...
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11:46 < Pimpdaddypayne> The installer says my ipod isn't supported, but the ipodlinux website says it is
11:47 < JohnNy64-konik> and you're sure you have the latest version of the installer?
11:47 < rvvs89> which ipod?
11:47 < Silivrenion> latest version of installer 2, and the 5gen video ipod
11:48 < rvvs89> it isn't supported
11:48 < Pimpdaddypayne> 1gen nano
11:48 < rvvs89> bah sorry
11:48 < rvvs89> bbl
11:48 < Pimpdaddypayne> latest version of installer 2 + 1gen nano
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11:50 < SuspectZero> hey
11:50 < Silivrenion> i know its an unsupported iPod, but I mean there's testing and stuff thats been done on it for people to say "hey, it works for me"
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11:51 < SuspectZero> i was wondering if there is a fdisk sequence in windows available for the 5.5g?
11:51 < Silivrenion> and this seems like a problem with the installer, not with linux itself
11:51 < fxb> The installer doesn't support 5.5G iPods.
11:51 < Pimpdaddypayne> fxb, what about 1gen nanos?
11:51 < fxb> Nano 1G should work
11:51 < SuspectZero> the one on the site is a linux version, and i cant get a hold of linux currently
11:52 < Pimpdaddypayne> fxb, it says 'your ipod is not supported' and cancels :(
11:53 < fxb> Sure it's a 1G nano?
11:54 < Silivrenion> also, even though I have a 5 gen video ipod, the installer doesn't say "hey, your ipod's not supported. you screw it up, its your own fault"
11:54 < Pimpdaddypayne> fxb, yes.. 4GB black + aluminum
11:55 < fxb> Maybe it just doesn't detect it right.
11:55 < fxb> http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/svnbuilds/
11:55 < fxb> Try this build^^
11:55 < SuspectZero> anyone?
11:55 < Pimpdaddypayne> do i need to use svn?
11:56 < Pimpdaddypayne> oh n/m
11:57 < SuspectZero> ok if u cant help me with tht
11:57 < SuspectZero> can u tell me this
11:57 < Silivrenion> "libea32.dll was not found" on build 2.31w.zip
11:58 < SuspectZero> will silviu's guide to 5g installation work on 5.5g?
11:59 < Silivrenion> there we go...
11:59 < Silivrenion> somehow when the installer finished making a backup, it would crash the installer...
11:59 < Pimpdaddypayne> hmm, fxb's build uses different modules than I have installed
12:00 < Silivrenion> hmm, grrr, it still crashed
12:01 < Pimpdaddypayne> fxb, how does it detect it? does it check 'mount' or something? or just probe all of the /dev/sdx ? do i need to mount it in a specific spot?
12:02 < Pimpdaddypayne> oh crap
12:02 < Pimpdaddypayne> the installer crashed with 'segmentation fault' after making the backup
12:03 < fxb> By reading the MBR
12:03 < SuspectZero> fxb can u help me after please?
12:03 < fxb> Then it perfroms a SCSI inquiry query to get the iPod generation
12:04 < Silivrenion> yeah, this crashing messed up the ipod.. i think linux on the ipod might not be a good idea for me after all :/
12:04 < Pimpdaddypayne> :S
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12:04 < Pimpdaddypayne> mine just crashed too in the backup mode
12:04 < fxb> Hi DerPapst.
12:04 < Silivrenion> yeah, after backing up, it crashes
12:04 < DerPapst> hi fxb :)
12:04 < Pimpdaddypayne> so i used 'dd' instead to make my own backup, and am proceeding wiith the install
12:04 < Silivrenion> and the backup it makes isn't even a valid backup
12:05 < SuspectZero> hey derpapst
12:05 < SuspectZero> can u help me please?
12:05 < DerPapst> meh... i'm still having kernel headder file related problems..
12:05 < DerPapst> i can't compile SDL
12:05 < fxb> SuspectZero: You can download a linux live cd.
12:06 < Pimpdaddypayne> wtf? ipodlinux starts booting and it says hfs+-fs unable to read vhdr or mdb
12:06 < SuspectZero> yea slax
12:06 < DerPapst> and stupid suse doesn't let me get a newer kernel than 2.6.13 -.-
12:06 < SuspectZero> i had one
12:06 < Pimpdaddypayne> kernel panic: vfs: unable to mount root fs on 03:03
12:06 < SuspectZero> but its at a friends
12:06 < SuspectZero> can i by anychance emulate that cd using daemontools or alcohol 120%?
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12:07 < DerPapst> no
12:08 < DerPapst> you have to burn it.
12:08 < DerPapst> you can't boot from in windows emoulated cds...
12:08 < DerPapst> -o
12:08 < Pimpdaddypayne> Anyone get errors about the "unable to mount root fs on 03:03" ?
12:08 < DerPapst> which ipod?
12:09 < SuspectZero> 80gb 5.5g 
12:09 < DerPapst> no i don't get it :P
12:09 < Silivrenion> wow, I have so many dead pixels...
12:09 < Pimpdaddypayne> DerPapst, 1G nano
12:09 < Silivrenion> i never realized it until I rebooted the ipod
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12:10 < DerPapst> pimpdaddy: use a kernel from feb this year.
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12:11 < DerPapst> anybody a SuSE pro in here?
12:11 < Pimpdaddypayne> DerPapst, I used a pretty new release I thought... something fxb gave me
12:11 < Pimpdaddypayne> DerPapst, http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/svnbuilds/ipodlinux-installer-2.31l.tar.gz
12:11 < DerPapst> he gave you another version of installer 2.
12:12 < DerPapst> but you have to use an older kernel though
12:12 < Pimpdaddypayne> oh, you have to install a kernel? 
12:13 < Pimpdaddypayne> i thought the installer did it , sorry
12:13 < DerPapst> the installer installs the latest kernel.
12:13 < DerPapst> but that doesn't work on nanos because of a bug.
12:14 < Pimpdaddypayne> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2007-02-16-kernel.bin.gz
12:14 < Pimpdaddypayne> So that should be fine?
12:14 < DerPapst> yupp
12:14 < Pimpdaddypayne> How do I copy it to the ipod once I decompress it?
12:15 < DerPapst> extract it and rename it to linux.bin
12:15 < DerPapst> then drop it on the fat32 partition of your ipod.
12:15 < DerPapst> e.g. F:\
12:15 < Pimpdaddypayne> oh
12:16 < Pimpdaddypayne> ty
12:17 < DerPapst> gtg... fixing my stupid linux installation -.-
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12:24 < HardDisk_WP> suse?
12:24 < HardDisk_WP> omg
12:24 < HardDisk_WP> I have to send DerPapst a Debian CD..
12:31 < Pimpdaddypayne> woot, got ipl installed
12:31 < Pimpdaddypayne> I thought IPL played Videos?
12:33 < SuspectZero> hey
12:33 < SuspectZero> i just installed the bootloader
12:33 < SuspectZero> now how do i get ipl on there?
12:34 < SuspectZero> i  used ipodlinux manager to make the partitions
12:34 < SuspectZero> and i used app manager for the bootloader
12:34 < SuspectZero> now wht
12:34 < SuspectZero> ?
12:39 < SuspectZero> ???
12:44 < SuspectZero> anyone?
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12:47 < SuspectZero> :(
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12:51 < SuspectZero> :'(
12:52 < Pimpdaddypayne> Hmm, what permissions should I have for /etc/rc ? it says 'permission denied' when booting
12:52 < JohnNy64-konik> 777 (-:
12:53 < SuspectZero> hey
12:53 < SuspectZero> can either of u help me plz?
12:53 < Pimpdaddypayne> JohnNy64-konik, I tried that, but I still see it
12:53 < JohnNy64-konik> err, I have no idea
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12:53 < JohnNy64-konik> SuspectZero: I would if I knew the answer.
12:54 < SuspectZero> thanx anywayz
12:54 < SuspectZero> i'll just wait for someone who knows
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12:55 < JohnNy64-konik> yeah, that's the best thing you can do...
12:57  * SuspectZero waits patiently
12:57 < SuspectZero> :)
13:11 < SuspectZero> can anyone help me please?
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13:16 < SuspectZero> hey bersace
13:16 < bersace> SuspectZero: hi
13:16 < bersace> ?
13:17 < SuspectZero> can u help me with one tiny issue please?
13:17 < bersace> well, i might
13:17 < bersace> don't ask to ask, just ask
13:17 < SuspectZero> i have an 80 gb 5.5g ipod
13:17 < SuspectZero>  i  used ipodlinux manager to make the partitions
13:18 < SuspectZero> and i used app manager for the bootloader
13:18 < SuspectZero> now wht do i do to get ipl running?
13:18 < Pimpdaddypayne> 5.5 isn't supported, is it?
13:18 < HardDisk_WP> SuspectZero, sry but I cant help you
13:18 < SuspectZero> someone posted that it works fine
13:18 < SuspectZero> its ok hd, thanx anywayz
13:19 < Pimpdaddypayne> did you try the installer?
13:19 < SuspectZero> yea thts not supported
13:20 < Pimpdaddypayne> did you try it?
13:20 < SuspectZero> yep
13:20 < SuspectZero> said it couldnt find ipod
13:21 < Pimpdaddypayne> Did you use the one fxb posted?
13:21 < Pimpdaddypayne> I had the same problem until I used his
13:21 < SuspectZero> no i didnt
13:21 < SuspectZero> i'll try it now
13:21 < bersace> SuspectZero: well, you should try Rockbox first
13:22 < bersace> then try IPL
13:22 < bersace> if you don't care about FAT32 and Doom, you can stick on rockbox
13:22 < Pimpdaddypayne> Rockbox has doom
13:22 < Pimpdaddypayne> and uses Fat32
13:23 < bersace> s/doom/gadgets/
13:23 < bersace> yes, that's the main problem of Rockbox : it uses FAT32
13:24 < Pimpdaddypayne> which kernels have the video player in them?
13:24 < Pimpdaddypayne> apparently, i can only use kernels released in february
13:27 < SuspectZero> hey pip
13:27 < SuspectZero> pimp*
13:27 < SuspectZero> i just went to the site fxb suggested earlier
13:27 < SuspectZero> and downloaded wht he suggesseter
13:27 < SuspectZero> all it is is a file called installer
13:27 < SuspectZero> wht do i do with it?
13:28 < Pimpdaddypayne> run it
13:28 < SuspectZero> cant
13:28 < SuspectZero> its  not .exe
13:28 < SuspectZero> and when i make it .exe
13:28 < Pimpdaddypayne> oh, you are on windows
13:28 < SuspectZero> yea
13:28 < Pimpdaddypayne> http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/svnbuilds/ipodlinux-installer-2.31w.zip
13:28 < Pimpdaddypayne> you need the windows version then
13:29 < SuspectZero> ah ic
13:32 < SuspectZero> damn
13:32 < SuspectZero> can not find libeay32.dll
13:33 < SuspectZero> ok
13:33 < SuspectZero> found tht online
13:33 < SuspectZero> it says its unsupported
13:34 < Pimpdaddypayne> :(
13:36 < bersace> SuspectZero: you should do it manually
13:37 < SuspectZero> how?
13:37 < SuspectZero> i dont have access to linux currently
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13:45 < Pimpdaddypayne> damn
13:45 < Pimpdaddypayne> The February kernels don't allow you to watch Videos
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13:52 < SuspectZero> where can i get linux.bin
13:52 < SuspectZero> and where do i put it?
13:53 < Pimpdaddypayne> I doubt you can...
13:53 < Pimpdaddypayne> Windows can't see ext2 partitions can it?
13:54 < SuspectZero> the installer i used does it without partitioning
13:54 < SuspectZero> it apperently comes with podzilla, but its not loading up
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13:59 < SuspectZero> i just get an error
13:59 < SuspectZero> it says linux.bin not found
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14:14 < nocchi> hi
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14:15 < Pimpdaddypayne> In fdisk, I've changed the # of cylinders, and wrote the partition table , but when i fdisk the device again, it is if the partition table didn't take
14:20 < DerPapst> dod you write the partitiontable?
14:20 < DerPapst> with w
14:20 < DerPapst> why do you want to modify it anyway?
14:22 < Pimpdaddypayne> because it was reporting an incorrect amount of cylinders
14:22 < DerPapst> 13:45 < Pimpdaddypayne> The February kernels don't allow you to watch Videos
14:22 < DerPapst> wrong.
14:22 < Pimpdaddypayne> i deleted ipodlinux (was going to reinstall) and when I went to fdisk it... it was reporting a lot more cylinders than I actually have
14:23 < DerPapst> odd
14:23 < Pimpdaddypayne> went from 497 cylinders to 1023
14:25 < DerPapst> heh.. cool :) if that additional space would be usable :P
14:26 < Pimpdaddypayne> haha yeah
14:26 < Pimpdaddypayne> but i need to get it back to 497, and I can't :(
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14:28 < DerPapst> how about restoring with itunes? should fix the mbr
14:28 < Pimpdaddypayne> I dont have itunes
14:29 < Pimpdaddypayne> wonder if i can get it to work w/ vmware
14:32 < JohnNy64-konik> I think not
14:32 < JohnNy64-konik> vmware doesn't lie iPods
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20:31 < Joker_> Hey... I've got a 2gig WinPod nano 1G, and I just tried to install using this guide: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation:_Winpod_without_datacorruption :: I got through it, but when I try to boot up my iPod into Linux, I get a bunch of errors: IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes       TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048)         NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.          FAT: bogus 
20:31 < Joker_> logical sector size 25722          Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:02
20:31 < Joker_> Any ideas why I'm getting this?
20:40 < kick52> vfs is unable to mount root fs on 03:02
20:41 < Joker_> ?
20:42 < Joker_> but why is it unable to mount root fs?
20:43 < kick52> heh
20:43 < kick52> dunnp
20:43 < kick52> dunno
20:43 < Joker_> heh
20:43 < kick52> wiki perhaps?
20:43 < kick52> search on forums?
20:43 < Joker_> I'm looking, haven't seen anything
20:44 < kick52> oh wait
20:44 < kick52> it looks like your FAT partition might be corrupted
20:44 < kick52> hmm, dunno
20:44 < JohnNy64-konik> try running dosfsck on the filesystem
20:45 < Joker_> It still works in apple firmware
20:45 < Joker_> dosfsck?
20:45 < JohnNy64-konik> byt root shouldn't be vfat
20:45 < JohnNy64-konik> root should be ext2
20:45 < JohnNy64-konik> or not?
20:46 < Joker_> ah... So that whole guides built on a flawed idea?
20:46 < JohnNy64-konik> I'm not sure, it's been a long time since I've been using iPodLinux
20:46 < Joker_> Hrm..
20:47 < Joker_> Aaaand their website's being stubborn...
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20:50 < DerPapst> g'day
20:51 < Joker_> g'day
20:52 < Joker_> DerPapst, I'm getting a bit of an error, think you could help?
20:52 < DerPapst> dunno.
20:52 < DerPapst> depends :P
20:52 < Joker_>  I've got a 2gig WinPod nano 1G, and I just tried to install using this guide: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation:_Winpod_without_datacorruption :: I got through it, but when I try to boot up my iPod into Linux, I get a bunch of errors: IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes       TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048)         NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.          FAT: bogus logica
20:52 < Joker_> l sector size 25722          Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:02
20:53 < DerPapst> k...
20:53 < DerPapst> have you ever formatted your FAT32 partition?
20:53 < DerPapst> without iTunes....
20:53 < Joker_> no
20:54 < Joker_> And... My iPod was just completely refreshed by the apple updater last week after I messed up trying to do this with another guide last weekend]
20:54 < DerPapst> because it fails at detecting the sectorsize. and because of that it can't mount your fat32 partition
20:55 < Joker_> hrm...
20:55 < Joker_> How would I fix that?
20:55 < DerPapst> is the apple fw still happy?
20:55 < Joker_> yeah
20:55 < DerPapst> mmhh..
20:56 < DerPapst> either use some linuxtools to repair the partititon (fsck for dos partitions) ot try to restore it with iTunes and try again...
20:57 < Joker_> Don't have iTunes, so let's go with the first one
20:57 < DerPapst> or reformart the partition in windows (or whatever os you are using)
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20:59 < Joker_> So... use fdisk to change the sector size of the FAT partition, then refresh the apple firmware, then restart installing linux?
20:59 < Joker_> What does the sectorsize need to be?
21:00 < DerPapst> on nanos it's 512bytes per sector.
21:00 < Joker_> mmkay
21:01 < DerPapst> but you don't have to "refresh the apple fw"
21:01 < Joker_> Eh?
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21:02 < DerPapst> and i don't even know what exactly you mean by that :P
21:02 < Joker_> heh
21:02 < Joker_> nevermind then
21:02 < Joker_> me making schtuff up, probably
21:03 < Joker_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation:_Winpod_without_datacorruption#Restoring
21:03 < DerPapst> but the fw is on another partition.. so normally it doesn't care what you do with the fat32 partition.
21:03 < Joker_> might have been referring to that step, though
21:03 < Joker_> oh
21:03 < Joker_> ok
21:04 < DerPapst> to "resore" your ipod you simply have to uninstall the loader.
21:04 < DerPapst> *restore
21:04 < Joker_> Ah
21:04 < Joker_> is this:    u   change display/entry units
21:04 < Joker_>  the command I need to use?
21:05 < DerPapst> ermm... sounds like you're using fdisk...
21:05 < Joker_> oh, wait, that's not it
21:05 < Joker_> yeah, I am
21:06 < DerPapst> why?
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21:06 < DerPapst> it doesn't help you to fix the fat32 partition in any way...
21:06 < Joker_> whoops
21:10 < DerPapst> courtc, fxb: ping
21:21 < fxb> DerPapst: pong.
21:22 < Joker_> frogger
21:23 < DerPapst> fxb: server problems...
21:24 < Joker_> Ah, so I'm not going crazy
21:26 < fxb> DerPapst: Should be fixed.
21:27 < DerPapst> fxb: thanks :)
21:28 < DerPapst> btw.. how do you want to restart trac?
21:28 < DerPapst> *autorestart
21:28 < DerPapst> with a cronjob?
21:35 < fxb> yeah
21:40 < Joker_> DerPapst, would the command ' mkdosfs -F 32 -S 512 /dev/sdb2 ' work?
21:44 < DerPapst> yep
21:52 < Joker_> mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdb' (use -I if wanted)
21:52 < Joker_> try it with -I ?
21:53 < fxb> /dev/sdb2
21:53 < fxb> ^^
21:54 < Joker_> Erm?
21:54 < fxb> You apparently did " mkdosfs -F 32 -S 512 /dev/sdb "
21:54 < DerPapst> 2 = partition 2 = FAT32 partition
21:54 < fxb> and not " mkdosfs -F 32 -S 512 /dev/sdb2 "
21:55 < Joker_> heh
21:55 < Joker_> wow.
22:07 < Joker_> FUCK!
22:07 < Joker_> I'm still getting the same error
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22:38 < Flickerite> Hi.  I'm having some trouble getting iPod linux working on my iPod, and I was wondering if anyone could help me.
22:38 < HellDragon> Flickerite: what generator ?
22:38 < HellDragon> generation*
22:39 < Flickerite> 3rd generation
22:40 < Flickerite> I used Installer 2 and it crashed while making a backup of the firmware
22:40 < Flickerite> And when I try and boot iPod Linux a kernel panic occurs
22:40 < Flickerite> The specific message is "kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel"
22:44 < calamari_> Flickerite: I have a 5th gen, but I didn't have any luck with Installer 2.. but the manual instructions worked just fine
22:45 < Flickerite> Ok
22:45 < Flickerite> I'll check those out and see if they work
22:45 < calamari_> yeah.. worth a try.. good luck!
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23:02 < calamari> if I run syslinux on my ipod shuffle, will I hose it?
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23:09 < aegray> whats syslinux?
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