--- Log opened Sat Apr 21 00:00:34 2007 00:08 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 00:50 -!- vatipa [n=vatipa@c-67-182-206-228.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:12 -!- aegray [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:28 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-83-218.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 -!- dano_washere [n=dbd@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 < dano_washere> Morn'n 01:38 -!- emmy212 [n=whyme414@CPE001217083bc7-CM000039a65c71.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:39 < emmy212> hi all.. 01:44 < emmy212> can i get some help plz? 01:44 -!- emmy212 [n=whyme414@CPE001217083bc7-CM000039a65c71.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 01:56 < courtc> dano_washere: around? 01:57 < dano_washere> hey, what? 01:58 < dano_washere> Yes, im here if ya mean that :). 02:02 < courtc> Yes, there is a gcc that works on the ipod. 02:02 < dano_washere> Thanks :)! 02:02 < dano_washere> Where would i be able to aquire it? 02:03 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Ipod_toolchain 02:03 < dano_washere> Damn, must of missed it. I was searching the forums for the toolchain.. 02:03 < dano_washere> Thanks! 02:03 < courtc> You got it. 02:22 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 02:40 -!- dano_washere [n=dbd@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 03:03 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:14 < daniel_washere> Damn. 03:14 < daniel_washere> the toolchain is too big. 03:15 < daniel_washere> Is there any Easy way to extend the linux the partition without losing dat 03:15 < daniel_washere> data* 03:16 < daniel_washere> or Could i create another linux partition and just resize my music partition 03:18 < courtc> If you can find a safe way to resize your music partition... 03:19 < daniel_washere> Fair enough. 03:19 < daniel_washere> or is it possible to install the toolchain using the music partition? 03:20 < courtc> probably, but it might be nasty. You might need to do some permissions mangling. 03:20 < daniel_washere> oh. 03:35 -!- Digital_Pioneer [n=digitalp@h132.206.255.206.cable.srcy.cablelynx.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:37 < Digital_Pioneer> OK, so it looks like iPodLinux is dead, buried and fully decomposed. :( 03:37 < Digital_Pioneer> Is it? 03:37 < Soap> no 03:37 < courtc> uhh? 03:38 < Digital_Pioneer> No news or updates to the download section since 2004? 03:38 < courtc> Yea, don't look at the sourceforge page. 03:38 < Digital_Pioneer> A supported iPod page made mostly of "not officially supported"? 03:38 < Digital_Pioneer> OK, SF is outdated. 03:38 < Soap> you need to understand the IPL definition of "supported" 03:39 < Digital_Pioneer> But is the supported iPod list? 03:39 < Digital_Pioneer> OK, my definition of supported is: does it run relatively stable with at least most functionality and not crash every hour? 03:39 < courtc> supported means that the dev team provides support for it. 03:40 < Digital_Pioneer> ...Oh... 03:40 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.37] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:40 < Soap> If anyone missuses "supported" it's Rockbox. I think IPLs defintion is literal, and easy to understand. 03:40 < Digital_Pioneer> So the SF page is outdated... 03:41 -!- jamis_ is now known as JamisNemo 03:41 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.37] has joined #iPodLinux 03:41 < Digital_Pioneer> I got the installer v2.2, is that current? 03:41 < Soap> IPL has grown beyond the limits of such boundries as SourceForge. 03:41 -!- JamisNemo is now known as jamisnemo 03:41 < Soap> The Man can't hold IPL down! 03:42 < Digital_Pioneer> The Man doesn't care about IPL, he just wants to distribute his zune and vi$ta. 03:42 < Digital_Pioneer> :P 03:42 < courtc> microsoft is not the man. 03:43 < Digital_Pioneer> They're close enough. 03:43 < Soap> *cough* 03:43 < Digital_Pioneer> Which "The Man" are you talking about? 03:44 < Digital_Pioneer> OK, I think the IPL installer 2.2 is a little... Corrupted? 03:46 < Digital_Pioneer> http://206.255.206.132:3561/ipl.jpg 03:47 < Digital_Pioneer> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I should be seeing known characters, not the unknown character symbol no? 03:48 < Soap> 2.2 isn't corrupted, it's old. 03:49 < Soap> and I can't speak for your fonts. 03:49 < Digital_Pioneer> So ipodlinux.org is outdated too? 03:50 < Soap> nvm, I can't speak for installing /from/ linux. 03:51 -!- jamisnemo [n=jamis@71-214-58-64.clsp.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:53 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.37] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:53 < Digital_Pioneer> So you can't use Linux to use Linux? Ouch. 03:53 < courtc> Sure you can. 03:53 < courtc> Just typcially, the people who use linux know enough to install it manually. 03:54 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.37] has joined #iPodLinux 03:54 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.37] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:54 < Digital_Pioneer> Aaahhhhhhh, now we're talking. :) 03:54 < Digital_Pioneer> I'm not afraid to compile. 03:54 < Digital_Pioneer> I just went for the installer because I compile only when I have to, but I do when it's called for. 03:55 < Digital_Pioneer> So what? SVN? 03:55 < courtc> sure. 03:55 < courtc> What gen ipod? 03:57 < Digital_Pioneer> DK yet. LOL 03:57 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 03:58 < Digital_Pioneer> Yeah, I don't have it yet. 03:58 < courtc> I see. 03:58 < Digital_Pioneer> http://svn.ipodlinux.org/tools/installer? 03:58 < courtc> That'd be the installer. 03:59 < Digital_Pioneer> Right. Is it what I want? 03:59 < courtc> Unless, you want to install manually. 03:59 < Digital_Pioneer> Is there any particular benefit? 04:00 < courtc> fine-grained control. 04:00 < Digital_Pioneer> Well, if I want to change something I'll do that. I'll stick with the installer for now. 04:01 < Digital_Pioneer> How do I compile this thing? No makefile, jamfile, cmakelists.txt, configure, autogen.sh, build.sh, compile.sh or anything else I know... 04:02 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-83-218.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 04:02 < courtc> qmake 04:02 < Digital_Pioneer> Ahh. :) 04:03 < Digital_Pioneer> Boom.... 04:03 < Digital_Pioneer> Errorz! 04:03 < Digital_Pioneer> As expected, missing headers. 04:04 < Digital_Pioneer> Whoops, nope. Sources looking in the wrong place. 04:04 < daniel_washere> Eh arm-elf-gcc doesnt support daemons and stuff like that. Or is that more of a kernel thing? 04:05 < courtc> doesn't really have to do too much with either. 04:05 < daniel_washere> Ah, ok. 04:05 < courtc> daniel_washere: daemons in uclinux are kinda tricky, since there's no fork() 04:06 < daniel_washere> So no support? 04:06 < daniel_washere> "corehttp.c: undefined reference to `daemon'" 04:06 < courtc> There is, for exmaple mpd uses vfork for daemons. 04:06 < daniel_washere> Ah, fair enough. 04:06 < daniel_washere> Thanks, *goes back to Boa Webserver* 04:07 < courtc> daemon() uses fork(), which under uclinux maps to vfork() 04:07 < courtc> The way mpd does it is rather crafty, would you like me to explain it? 04:07 < daniel_washere> fair enough ;p. 04:07 < daniel_washere> nah its fine :) 04:07 < daniel_washere> i kinda get it 04:08 < daniel_washere> its more of a client to host thing daemon sorta thing 04:08 < daniel_washere> isnt it? 04:08 < courtc> well a daemon is just an application that runs in the background. 04:09 < daniel_washere> So that'd just be the host side of mpd? 04:09 -!- screwt8 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e936c1f1b30e1281] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:09 < courtc> Well, that's what mpd is, a Music Player Daemon ;) 04:09 < courtc> the client isn't a part of mpd 04:09 < daniel_washere> ah ok :P 04:10 < Digital_Pioneer> OK, I've got some serious Qt header problems here... 04:10 < Digital_Pioneer> I think it would be easier to install manually. LOL 04:11 < courtc> The downside to having an application daemonize itself on ipodlinux is the fact that the kernel will have to allocate memory for the application twice, once for each time it executes. Usually it's not much of a problem, but in the case of ipodlinux, free isn't working... 04:12 < daniel_washere> So the memory side of things are a bit twisted? 04:12 < courtc> Yea. 04:12 < courtc> Currently the best way to daemonize a process is to put & after it on the command line (or rc script) 04:12 -!- Digital_Pioneer [n=digitalp@h132.206.255.206.cable.srcy.cablelynx.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Konversation terminated!"] 04:13 < daniel_washere> Fair enough :) 04:13 < daniel_washere> So would it be better to use a server with/without daemon? 04:13 < daniel_washere> It has its downsides and upsides by the sound of things 04:13 -!- r1234567 [n=r1234567@77.192.249.199] has joined #ipodlinux 04:14 < courtc> a server typically has the charicteristics of a daemon 04:14 -!- r1234567 [n=r1234567@77.192.249.199] has left #ipodlinux ["Konversation terminated!"] 04:15 < courtc> A server that runs in the foreground is usually fairly useless. 04:16 < courtc> So if you wanted to port boa, you can just rip out all daemonizing code, start it with "boa &" 04:17 -!- screwt8 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-2057d98a97a7abb6] has joined #ipodlinux 04:17 < courtc> now, boa might detect if it's running it the foreground and spit out extra logging information in this case, so you could do "boa 1>/dev/null &" 04:18 < courtc> I'm not sure if minix supports it, but 1>&- is actually faster. 04:20 < daniel_washere> Boa is setup with 2 logs 04:20 < daniel_washere> access_log & error_log 04:20 < daniel_washere> it never failed on compile with daemon 04:21 < daniel_washere> does that necessarily mean it does/does not use a daemon? 04:22 < courtc> It doesn't *use* a daemon. It either acts as a daemon (runs in the background) or doesn't. 04:24 < courtc> basically, you should remove the daemonizing code from boa. 04:24 < courtc> It's currently more trouble than it's worth. 04:25 < daniel_washere> Hehe i know, but its fun to experiment. 04:26 < daniel_washere> I got it to run but i dont know if it is running properly at all 04:26 < daniel_washere> i just get a a small white box cursor terminal thingy. then thats all 04:26 < daniel_washere> There were errors before but thats because i didnt place files in the correct places. 04:27 < daniel_washere> (My over abuse of spamming the irc with error messages ;) before) 04:30 < daniel_washere> I also tried connecting to it using the links (cross-compiled) 04:30 < daniel_washere> but im still not sure if i used the right parameter 04:31 < daniel_washere> Links @ (hd0,2)/kernel.bin links http://127.0.0.1:80/ 04:34 < courtc> I doubt links will work. ncurses and all. 04:34 < courtc> I suggest using wget or curl or something similar. 04:36 < daniel_washere> links did work though 04:36 < daniel_washere> or would it still be un-usable? 04:36 < daniel_washere> i couldnt click anything because i havent edited the iPods input in yet ('r', 'm', etc) 04:46 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-71-57-124-207.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:49 < daniel_washere> i`ll try cURL now 04:53 < daniel_washere> hehe it compiled 04:56 < daniel_washere> The server must not be working correctly 04:56 < daniel_washere> it cant find the url 04:57 < daniel_washere> http://127.0.0.1/ should do it right? 04:57 < courtc> yup. 04:57 < daniel_washere> Said it couldnt find the server. 04:57 < courtc> is it running on port 80? 04:58 < daniel_washere> yea 04:58 < daniel_washere> All in config file 04:58 < daniel_washere> Hmmm 04:58 < daniel_washere> "# Listen: the Internet address to bind(2) to. If you leave it out, 04:58 < daniel_washere> # it takes the behavior before 0.93.17.2, which is to bind to all" 04:59 < daniel_washere> By default its commented out 04:59 < daniel_washere> "#Listen 192.68.0.5" 04:59 < daniel_washere> but the loopback should take of things right? 04:59 < courtc> Yea, if it bbinds to all addresses. 05:00 < daniel_washere> Logs arent reporting any access or errors. 05:01 < daniel_washere> Unless i missed something out 05:01 < courtc> Is it actually runnning? 05:01 < daniel_washere> Yea 05:01 < daniel_washere> its in my rc file 05:02 < daniel_washere> you get a like 1-3 second pause before all other applications start 05:02 < courtc> Yes, but is it running? 05:02 < courtc> check with ps 05:02 < daniel_washere> i`ll try it now 05:05 < daniel_washere> it went to fast down 05:05 < daniel_washere> but by the looks of it 05:05 < daniel_washere> cant see boa anywhere 05:07 < daniel_washere> Hmmm i wonder if a 3G user would be willing to see if they can gain access to the webserver 05:12 < courtc> It would be almost as easy just to create a simple webserver. 05:12 < courtc> The protocol is pretty dead simple. 05:16 < daniel_washere> yer 05:16 < daniel_washere> but they have all these advanced servers with all these high tech features an iPod couldnt possibly need 05:17 < courtc> Exactly, hence making a simple one. 05:17 < daniel_washere> But its easier to type 2 commands xD 05:18 < daniel_washere> nah i`ll start on one i guess 05:18 < daniel_washere> Though not to familiar with threads :/ 05:18 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:18 < courtc> Don't even bother with thread.s 05:19 < daniel_washere> ah k 05:29 < lex> :o 05:29 < lex> morning guys 05:32 < courtc> hey 05:32 < daniel_washere> morning 05:33 < daniel_washere> LEX the toolchain is for the taking :D 05:33 < lex> :o 05:33 < lex> you know what 05:33 < lex> i need to go to... school now :( 05:34 < daniel_washere> Damn 05:34 < daniel_washere> wait what? 05:34 < daniel_washere> isnt it saturday there? 05:34 < daniel_washere> You go to school on weekends :| 05:34 < lex> yep :( 05:34 < lex> it's a saturdayschool so we can get a free day at the end of this month 05:35 < lex> but now i need to go, bye :< 05:35 < daniel_washere> so confusing and random 05:35 < daniel_washere> lol see ya 05:35 < lex> yep ;g 05:35 < daniel_washere> compile a kernel if you get bored 05:35 < courtc> daniel_washere: mind if I make a httpd right quick? 05:35 < lex> i'm flashing the newest custom firmware on my psp now, but i'll go when it's done 05:35 < daniel_washere> lol to be honest ive been looking at its source right now 05:35 < daniel_washere> sure ;D 05:36 < daniel_washere> i was going to base it off that.. but its already simplifed 05:43 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:44 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:44 < daniel_washere> GAIM keeps crashing on me randomly :/ 05:50 < daniel_washere> courtc 05:50 < daniel_washere> also if you compile it 05:50 < daniel_washere> are you using the makefile? 05:50 < courtc> eh? 05:50 < daniel_washere> You have to change some values in the file 05:50 < daniel_washere> #define DEFAULT_USER 0 05:50 < daniel_washere> #define DEFAULT_GROUP 0 05:51 < daniel_washere> but your probably already know that? 05:51 < daniel_washere> ;p 05:51 < courtc> What? I'm making my own. 05:51 < daniel_washere> oh 05:51 < daniel_washere> hehe fair enough xD 05:53 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-65-64-200-86.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 06:01 < daniel_washere> damn httpd keeps failing to start cause it cant resolve the hostname. 06:02 < daniel_washere> (Random question); So there is no way USB/Serial will work without drivers? 06:02 < daniel_washere> (Would attempting to use newer 2.6 kernels work?) 06:03 < courtc> no 06:05 < daniel_washere> damn :( 06:07 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:07 < aegray> yay aegray_'s back! 06:07 < aegray> hi aegray_ 06:07 < courtc> heh 06:07 * aegray apartment internet was out 06:07 < aegray_> hi aegray 06:08 < aegray> :) 06:08 < daniel_washere> ;p morn'n 06:08 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-68-95-247-151.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:08 < aegray> daniel_washere: if you can get 2.6 working I'll give you a cookie though 06:08 < daniel_washere> YaY 06:08 < aegray> and other things 06:08 < daniel_washere> :| 06:08 < daniel_washere> Lets just leave it at the cookies 06:08 < daniel_washere> Choc Chip? 06:08 < aegray> sure 06:09 * daniel_washere drools 06:09 < courtc> man, I would have taken the million dollars. 06:09 < aegray> he didn't want it :/ 06:11 < daniel_washere> lol 06:11 < daniel_washere> well 06:11 < daniel_washere> if its aegrays secret cookie recipe then there worth a million each! 06:15 < daniel_washere> lmao this is going to be fun i dont even know how to compile a linux kernel :| 06:15 < aegray> yea.... 06:15 < aegray> that'll work out well then 06:15 < daniel_washere> dont you have to apply a patch to the uClinux kernel? 06:15 < daniel_washere> thats about all i remember :/ 06:16 < daniel_washere> Doubt i`ll get anywhere no use doing anything ;) 06:16 < daniel_washere> No cookie for me :( 06:17 < daniel_washere> ;o You's didnt even put iPodlinux as a port on the "http://www.uclinux.org/ports/" page 06:18 < lex> :o 06:18 < lex> got pics now? 06:18 < daniel_washere> ITS LEX 06:18 < lex> yep it is 06:18 < daniel_washere> hey aegray never said it had to be a target for iPod 06:18 < lex> ircing from school :o 06:18 < daniel_washere> compile the linux kernel 2.6 on the ipod lex :D 06:18 < daniel_washere> i can still get a cookie 06:19 < daniel_washere> .. What do you normal IRC on? 06:19 < lex> home? :o 06:19 < aegray> his car 06:19 < lex> :G 06:19 < lex> yeah, sometimes even there 06:19 < daniel_washere> Question ;p 06:20 < daniel_washere> how did you get on IRC from school 06:20 < daniel_washere> when you've been at home as well 06:20 < daniel_washere> it should've said disconnect & connect 06:20 < daniel_washere> ;p 06:20 < lex> putty you know, an ssh client 06:20 < daniel_washere> oh :/ 06:20 < lex> no, a server with irssi and screen 06:20 < daniel_washere> YaY 06:20 < daniel_washere> my word for the day 06:20 < lex> works nicely where ever i go 06:20 < daniel_washere> :) 06:23 < daniel_washere> Eh 06:23 < daniel_washere> how am i meant to try compile if theres only a patch for 2.4 06:23 < daniel_washere> "uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.patch (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipodlinux/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.patch.gz?download) - uClinux iPod specific patch (not required if using CVS, see below)" 06:23 < lex> brb, i need to go to go around the school now 06:24 < daniel_washere> loll k 06:24 < daniel_washere> lol* 06:27 < daniel_washere> Does this still apply 06:27 < daniel_washere> "For most iPodLinux applications, you compile using the arm-uclinux-elf 3.4.3 toolchain. However, the kernel needs to be built using the older arm-elf 2.95 toolchain. You can install both toolchains at once without major problems." 06:27 < aegray> yes. 06:27 < daniel_washere> Damn.. another toolchain :( 06:27 < aegray> its not like you have to build the toolchain yourself 06:27 < aegray> just install something 06:28 < daniel_washere> But i have to click 06:28 < daniel_washere> Hmm 06:28 < daniel_washere> i can also update the kernel to? 06:28 < daniel_washere> Why didnt it say so earlier ;P 06:28 < aegray> hhuh? 06:29 < daniel_washere> "(An alternative is to update the kernel to compile with the 3.4.3 toolchain - see the Experimental Kernel page for a solution to this)" 06:30 < daniel_washere> Can the 2 toolchains Co-exist? 06:32 < aegray> yes 06:32 < daniel_washere> sweet 06:32 < daniel_washere> then its all good 06:33 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-64-200-86.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 06:33 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-65-64-200-86.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:38 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:40 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:44 < daniel_washere> Toolchain wont install 06:44 < daniel_washere> gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format 06:44 < daniel_washere> tar: Old option `f' requires an argument. 06:44 < daniel_washere> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. 06:45 < daniel_washere> eh, now i see ... i corrupted a binary file 06:45 < daniel_washere> YaY 06:52 < daniel_washere> ok 06:52 < daniel_washere> just patched files 06:53 < daniel_washere> Ok.. now im stuck.. 06:53 < daniel_washere> http://ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building 06:53 < daniel_washere> Step 3 06:53 < daniel_washere> i have no options what-so-ever 06:53 < daniel_washere> there is no 2.6 patch - ipod2 06:55 < daniel_washere> can i still use the old one? 06:55 < daniel_washere> although 2.4 would probably have a different structure to 2.6 06:57 < aegray> wha?? 06:57 < daniel_washere> -_-'' 06:57 < aegray> are you really trying to port 2.6? 06:57 < daniel_washere> yap 06:57 < aegray> lol 06:57 < daniel_washere> lol 06:57 < daniel_washere> xD 06:57 < daniel_washere> i knew you were laughing at me 06:58 < daniel_washere> your probably sitting there with popcorn 06:58 < aegray> haha 06:58 < aegray> i don't think its a trivial procedure 06:58 < daniel_washere> Yer but im just stuck 06:58 < daniel_washere> i cant patch it 06:58 < aegray> there is no 2.6 patch. I think theres a uclinux 2.6 patch, but from there, you're on your own to make it work on the ipod 06:59 < aegray> that's why its not an easy thing 06:59 < daniel_washere> oh 06:59 < daniel_washere> Would it be possible to try compile without the ipod changes first? 06:59 < daniel_washere> to see if it`ll actually compile 06:59 < aegray> it will compile fine 06:59 < daniel_washere> ah 06:59 < daniel_washere> yay 06:59 < aegray> wont really do much for you 06:59 < daniel_washere> you never said i had to do it with the ipod patch :D 06:59 < daniel_washere> so free cookie! 07:00 * aegray meant on ipod 07:00 < aegray> getting it working != compiling it 07:00 < aegray> no cookies 07:00 < daniel_washere> :( 07:00 < daniel_washere> damn 07:01 < daniel_washere> hmmm 07:01 < aegray> what are you trying to get it working for anyways? 07:01 < aegray> (ie what feature do you need) 07:01 < daniel_washere> lol.. 07:01 < daniel_washere> now that you mention it 07:01 < daniel_washere> why am i doing this? 07:01 < daniel_washere> it started as WHERE THE HELL OR WHEN THE HELL IS A USB DRIVER GOING TO BE RELEASED 07:01 < daniel_washere> to 07:01 < aegray> haha 07:01 < daniel_washere> i get a free cookie 07:01 < aegray> 2.6 would help the usb driver 07:01 < daniel_washere> and since 2.6 wont help 07:01 < aegray> i'll admit that 07:02 < daniel_washere> wait 07:02 < daniel_washere> it will 07:02 < aegray> it won't be automatic 07:02 < daniel_washere> courtc.. you lied to me :( 07:02 < aegray> but it would help 07:02 < aegray> no he didn't 07:02 < daniel_washere> lol 07:02 < aegray> it wont just work 07:02 < daniel_washere> damn 07:02 < daniel_washere> but it will be easier non-the-less? 07:02 < aegray> yea 07:02 < daniel_washere> well make the process easier* 07:02 < daniel_washere> Hmmm 07:02 < daniel_washere> Who wants to help write a 2.6.20 patch for ipod ;P 07:03 < daniel_washere> Volunteers get a third of the cookie. 07:03 * aegray doesn't 07:03 < daniel_washere> hehe go figure ;p 07:03 < aegray> i'd be giving you a cookie to get back a third for my work?? 07:03 -!- scorche [i=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche] has joined #ipodlinux 07:04 < daniel_washere> lol 07:04 < daniel_washere> yer 07:04 < daniel_washere> make a batch of 12 cookies 07:04 < daniel_washere> you`ll get 11 1/3 of them :) 07:04 < aegray> no dice 07:06 < daniel_washere> courtc: Any progress on the webserver? 07:06 < courtc> Yup. 07:06 < courtc> lots. 07:06 < daniel_washere> YaY 07:06 < daniel_washere> make it do ftp next ;) 07:06 < courtc> screw you ;) 07:06 < aegray> hahha 07:06 < daniel_washere> lol 07:07 < daniel_washere> i wonder if theres a linux program to change 2.4 patches to 2.6 :/ 07:07 < aegray> yea...... 07:08 < daniel_washere> Hmm. this sucks i wanna make my nano into a webserver 07:08 < aegray> why? 07:08 < daniel_washere> for the awsomeness factor 07:08 < daniel_washere> plug 'n' host 07:08 < aegray> thatll wear off in a week 07:09 < aegray> after the year of work required 07:09 < daniel_washere> lol 07:09 < daniel_washere> you cant say it isnt worth it ?!?! 07:09 < aegray> its not 07:09 < daniel_washere> fair enough ;P 07:09 < daniel_washere> I kinda feel sorry for you dev's 07:09 < daniel_washere> when ever a new iPod comes out 07:09 < daniel_washere> your flooded with "ZOMG ZOMG" 07:11 < lex> ;o 07:11 < daniel_washere> And if rumors are true 07:11 < daniel_washere> second half this year 07:11 < aegray> what rumors? 07:11 < daniel_washere> new iPods are out 07:11 < aegray> what are they supposed to have? 07:11 < daniel_washere> but i doubt that 07:11 < daniel_washere> Wifi apparently 07:12 < daniel_washere> to compute with Zune. 07:12 < daniel_washere> but i doubt that somehow 07:12 < daniel_washere> Apple go more for lets scam them for there money, technique ;) 07:13 < daniel_washere> compete* 07:16 < daniel_washere> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10&highlight=kernel 07:16 < daniel_washere> " The 2.6 port is proceeding fairly well however there is one major bug at the moment that causes disk corruption if a file system is mounted read/write. This problem does not affect the 2.4 version (the downloadable version from sf.net) only the 2.6 kernel code in CVS. " 07:17 < daniel_washere> There was the kernel patch in CVS now? 07:17 < daniel_washere> So one run of it 07:18 < daniel_washere> corrupts everything> 07:18 < daniel_washere> lmao thats more of a virus then what some security company came up with 07:18 < daniel_washere> it only made all .elf files crazy 07:20 < daniel_washere> Thought of another excuse for USB: being able to access files from podzilla ;p 07:21 < aegray> i didnt say i dont care about usb 07:21 < aegray> i just dont care about a webserver 07:21 < daniel_washere> lol fair enough 07:21 < daniel_washere> who i can still obtain a patch for 2.6 07:21 < daniel_washere> but it corrupts the filesystem 07:21 < aegray> STOP USING DIFFERENT FONTS 07:22 < aegray> THIS ISNT AN HTML BASED CHATROOM 07:22 < daniel_washere> ? 07:22 < daniel_washere> im using GAIM 07:23 < daniel_washere> it all appears black to me 07:23 < aegray> get rid of formatting 07:23 < scorche> [00:17:11] There was the kernel patch in CVS now? 07:23 < scorche> [00:17:59] So one run of it 07:23 < scorche> [00:18:03] corrupts everything> 07:23 < aegray> its showing up as html to me 07:23 < courtc> 02:22 < daniel_washere> it all appears black to me 07:23 < daniel_washere> i have no formatting :s 07:23 < aegray> yea you do 07:23 < aegray> font size=3 in an html tag 07:23 < daniel_washere> oO 07:23 < aegray> gah 07:23 < aegray> scorche: its no use because his client interprets the tags :P 07:23 < scorche> aegray: it was worth a try 07:23 < aegray> true 07:23 < daniel_washere> -_-'' i installed gaim and added this as IRC i didnt change nothing else 07:23 < scorche> incredibly annoying thoiugh 07:24 < daniel_washere> lmao should've told me earlier 07:24 < daniel_washere> CLIENT CHANGE 07:24 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:24 < aegray> i thought he was copy pasting from the website 07:24 < courtc> ditto 07:25 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:25 < aegray> damnit insight. 07:25 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:26 -!- daniel_washere [n=chatzill@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:26 < daniel_washere> better? 07:26 < aegray> yea 07:26 < daniel_washere> oO ive been using GAIM for months.. 07:26 < daniel_washere> (and Klient on windows) 07:26 < daniel_washere> all that time? 07:27 < aegray> no 07:27 < aegray> it looks like you increased your font size by accident 07:27 < daniel_washere> hmm 07:27 < aegray> when you pasted 07:27 < daniel_washere> fair enough 07:28 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.201] has joined #iPodLinux 07:29 < daniel_washere> So the only issue with the new patch filesystem corruption? 07:29 < aegray> thats a pretty big issue 07:29 < daniel_washere> i know ;p 07:32 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:32 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:32 < aegray> heh 07:33 < daniel_washere> gtg. 07:35 -!- daniel_washere [n=chatzill@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:41 -!- rift [n=opera@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:50 < courtc> wee! my very first webserver. 07:51 < aegray> where? 07:51 < courtc> hold on one second. 07:51 * aegray gets his botnet ready... 07:56 < courtc> http://svn.so2.sytes.net/repos/httpd/ 07:56 < aegray> cool 07:56 < aegray> "That is all." 07:56 < aegray> haha 07:57 < courtc> :) 07:58 < aegray> gah "data buffer error". It doesn't tell me anything else 07:58 < courtc> huh? 07:58 < aegray> oh whoops -> other 07:58 < courtc> Oh, I was about to say, httpd has NO errors! 07:59 < courtc> bahahaha 07:59 < aegray> haha 08:06 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-83-218.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-83-218.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 08:44 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:47 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:59 -!- jamisnemo [n=jamis@71-214-58-64.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:10 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:11 -!- brun0_ [n=brun0_@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:30 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:32 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:37 -!- fletcher [n=fletcher@89.62.110.194] has joined #ipodlinux 09:41 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:55 -!- fxb__ is now known as fxb 10:11 -!- riwa [n=riwa@c-b016e455.016-163-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 10:12 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:21 -!- gluby [n=kvirc@Mf68a.m.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:38 -!- daniel_washere [n=chatzill@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:38 < daniel_washere> back ;p 10:38 -!- riwa [n=riwa@c-b016e455.016-163-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ipodlinux ["WeeChat 0.2.4"] 10:39 < daniel_washere> what else does 2.6 do? 10:39 < daniel_washere> some power management thingamajig? 10:41 < daniel_washere> Meh. 10:42 < daniel_washere> how goes progress courtc? 10:47 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:00 < daniel_washere> Hmm just a question 11:00 < daniel_washere> if the patch was to be applied to a later kernel version, could it be possible that the corruption issue is fixed 11:01 < daniel_washere> or would that be a problem with the patch file? 11:14 -!- gluby [n=kvirc@Mf68a.m.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:20 < daniel_washere> Everyones either at school or asleep :P 11:20 < daniel_washere> or they think im annoying ^_^ 11:43 < guyzmo> hi 11:43 < guyzmo> anyone has informations on how the 'do not disconnect' screen works ? 11:43 < daniel_washere> yay 11:43 < daniel_washere> Dont disconnect the USB Cable? 11:44 < daniel_washere> ;p 11:44 < daniel_washere> or Firewire cable 11:44 < guyzmo> I mean how can I access the ipod (read-only or r/w) without having the dnd screen ? 11:44 < daniel_washere> I dont think you can 11:44 < daniel_washere> the only other alternative to that is disk mode which does the exact same thing in black and white 11:45 < daniel_washere> Why, having troubles umount it? 11:45 < guyzmo> no 11:45 < daniel_washere> Hmm 11:45 < daniel_washere> no idea, i really dont think you can though 11:46 < fletcher> where can I get this modified bootloader for 5.5g 80 gb? 11:46 < fletcher> could someone tell me? because the link on 5.5g wiki page is broken 11:47 < guyzmo> I want to use it in my car and load data from the ipod (my engine curves) and if it's possible store results on the ipod 11:47 < guyzmo> without killing the flow of music 11:47 < guyzmo> :] 11:47 < guyzmo> (I have an interface for the engine's diagnostic interface) 11:48 < daniel_washere> @flecher: try looking at previous history of the 5.5G wiki page, it gets updated regulary 11:48 < fletcher> what should i look for in the history :o 11:48 < fletcher> i read that the source of the loader is in svn 11:48 < daniel_washere> @guyzmo: i again, dont think its possible to make it not display do no disconnect. 11:49 < fletcher> so i have to build it myself? 11:49 < daniel_washere> flecher: feel like compiling ;P? 11:49 < daniel_washere> flecher: unless theres a binary 11:49 < fletcher> there is no binary 11:49 < fletcher> ok i'll download the toolchain -.- 11:50 < fletcher> i hate compiling stuff myself ;) 11:50 < fletcher> always afraid of i am doing something wrong 11:50 < daniel_washere> Modified Bootloader 11:50 < daniel_washere> sorry not to familiar with 5.5G 11:50 < fletcher> ? 11:50 < daniel_washere> Ask DataGhost on that stuff :) 11:51 < fletcher> ok 11:51 < fletcher> at the moment i don't need it really so i'll wait ;) 11:53 < daniel_washere> Fair enough :) 12:05 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 12:14 -!- Bi-noix [n=binoix@86.66.187.159] has joined #ipodlinux 12:22 -!- Bi-noix [n=binoix@86.66.187.159] has quit ["brb"] 12:25 -!- daniel_washere [n=chatzill@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/0000000000]"] 12:42 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:42 -!- rift [n=opera@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:44 -!- bersace_ [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:45 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:49 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:49 -!- Bi-noix [n=binoix@86.66.187.162] has joined #ipodlinux 13:11 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB1440.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 13:12 < DerPapst> fletcher: you're there? 13:12 < fletcher> yep 13:12 < DerPapst> i've broken the link a few days ago 13:12 < DerPapst> i fixed it now 13:13 < DerPapst> uploaded a newer version of the loader. 13:13 < fletcher> ok 13:13 < DerPapst> most of the downloads are on the "Download" page anyway. 13:14 < fletcher> ok so the link is on 5.5g page? 13:14 < DerPapst> yes. 13:14 < DerPapst> i've fixed it 13:14 < fletcher> ok thx 13:15 < DerPapst> courtc: thanks for the edit :-D 13:21 -!- ibd [n=ibd@80-219-226-47.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 < ibd> hi 13:57 < fletcher> [ERR] Input file too big for buffer 13:57 < fletcher> [ERR] --add-bootloader failed. 13:57 < fletcher> I get this when I try to put loader to my ipod 13:58 < fletcher> oh wrong file ;) 14:01 -!- fluffy_bunny [n=alexey@88.200.182.222] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:07 < fletcher> ok it works :) 14:08 < fletcher> is there a way to hide the userland files on mac os x? 14:09 < DerPapst> not that i know of ;) 14:13 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@dupedoo.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:15 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.231.106] has joined #ipodlinux 14:26 < fletcher> ok 14:27 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:29 -!- fletcher [n=fletcher@89.62.110.194] has quit ["rinnjehau'n"] 14:30 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:47 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 14:50 -!- AriX__ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:52 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:53 < lex> hey, deutsch, anyone? 14:53 * DerPapst hides 14:53 < lex> :o 14:53 < lex> is teilen share or something in english? :O 14:54 < HardDisk_WP> yes 14:54 < fxb> yes 14:54 < DerPapst> yes 14:54 < lex> great, thanks 14:54 < HardDisk_WP> has anyone seen pfitzner the last days? 14:54 < DerPapst> no 14:54 < HardDisk_WP> sh*t 14:55 < DerPapst> why? 14:55 < DerPapst> afaik he's broken the ribbon cable of the click wheel while he tried to reassemble his mini 14:56 < HardDisk_WP> hm wait, i got his cellphone number 15:12 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:17 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:18 -!- AriX__ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:20 -!- AriX__ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:20 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:26 -!- rift [n=opera@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:32 < ibd> my name is Deutsch, btw 15:33 < ibd> thus the 'd' in "ibd" 15:33 < DerPapst> o rly?! 15:33 < ibd> ya rly 15:33 < ibd> yes wai 15:33 < DerPapst> heh.. cool :-D 15:34 < ibd> yep 15:34 < ibd> guess how I can label one of my school folders :D 15:34 < ibd> deutsch deutsch 15:35 < DerPapst> hahahaha 15:36 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.201] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:36 * DerPapst is afk (shopping :-P) 15:36 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.201] has joined #iPodLinux 15:37 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:37 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:38 -!- AriX__ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:38 -!- ibd [n=ibd@80-219-226-47.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:44 < guyzmo> re 15:46 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:47 -!- bersace_ [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:52 -!- khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:56 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:08 < khermans> hello, is the source code for the installer available? 16:09 < khermans> i am making it core dump 16:17 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 16:29 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@pool-71-96-217-145.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:30 < courtc> khermans: it's in svn 16:30 < khermans> ok 16:33 -!- CaptainKewl [i=captaink@207-237-173-208.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:35 -!- fxb is now known as fxb__ 16:51 < khermans> courtc, there is no Makefile for the installer 16:52 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@pool-71-96-217-145.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:53 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@dupedoo.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:08 < guyzmo> I'm running 2007-04-17-kernel.bin with 2007-04-17-podzilla on my 5.5g ipod... is that a known issue that it runs terribly slowly ? 17:08 < courtc> Yea, use podzilla2 17:09 < guyzmo> ok 17:10 < guyzmo> courtc - got an url for the builds ? 17:11 < khermans> Are there instructions on how to build the installer from svn? 17:11 < rift> prout 17:11 < rift> sorry 17:12 < guyzmo> think I got it http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/ 17:12 < rift> guyzmo: www.google.fr ? :) 17:14 < courtc> khermans: use qmake 17:15 < khermans> courtc, i did and there is no output 17:20 -!- brun0_ [n=brun0_@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:27 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB1440.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:27 < khermans> this is useless 17:27 < khermans> where can i submit my core file? 17:31 -!- jamisnemo [n=jamis@71-214-58-64.clsp.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:31 -!- jamisnemo [n=jamis@71-214-58-64.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 < khermans> well whoever cares 17:37 < khermans> iponinstaller amd64 core dump 17:37 < khermans> http://kristian-hermansen.com/core.tar.gz 18:01 -!- CaptainKewl [i=captaink@207-237-173-208.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:11 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:11 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:15 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:16 < aegray> anyone have a good undertanding of the linux dma subsystem? 18:16 < courtc> have you tried in #osdev ? 18:17 < aegray> no good call 18:18 -!- braeuni [n=use@V9648.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 -!- Dafydd [n=Dafydd@S010600179a9eb866.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 < Dafydd> Hi, could someone give me a hand with a confusing problem when I install Ipod linux on my Ipod color? 18:20 < aegray> ask the question/describe the problem. 18:22 < Dafydd> I install Ipod linux using the option of resizeing the data partiion instead of the firmware partition. It works great but after disconnecting the Ipod and reconnecting it, windows reports the data partition is corrpted, Itunes can't save it's data, and it forces me to run chkdsk, which after doing that, Ipod linux no longer works anymore 18:23 < aegray> I would guess the installer messed up the creation of the data filesystem 18:23 < aegray> does the ipod work in apple mode immediately after install? 18:23 < aegray> or just ipodlinux mode 18:23 < Dafydd> what do you suggest? I tried restoreing the Ipod and installing Ipod linux three times 18:24 < Dafydd> both modes work right right after the install 18:24 < aegray> not sure. Use a different installer? 18:24 < aegray> hehe 18:24 * aegray can help with linux - not with installers 18:24 < Dafydd> however once connected to the computer, the data partions is messed up. When Windows runs chkdsk, the Ipod linux partition then gets messed up 18:25 < Dafydd> On top of that, I can't seem to get the bootloader to boot rockbox even though I have the config file for it point to where the rockbox fimware file is 18:25 < aegray> is it in the loader list? 18:26 < Dafydd> yes, when I make the config file. Without the config file it isn't 18:26 < aegray> and when you try to boot it it just locks up flat out? 18:26 < aegray> (rockbox) 18:26 < Dafydd> it simply says it can't find the binary 18:27 < Dafydd> cannot find (hd0,1) /.rockbox/rockbox.ipod 18:27 < aegray> I'm guessing the installer is fskcing up your data partition 18:27 < aegray> (are you sure the file is there on the fat32 partition?) 18:28 < Dafydd> yes 18:28 < aegray> is this the official ipl installer? 18:28 < Dafydd> I put rockbox there, I make sure the config file points to the right partition 18:28 < Dafydd> yes 18:28 < Dafydd> Ipodlinux windows installer 18:28 < aegray> i dunno. somethings messed with the filesystem 18:28 * aegray doesn't know the installer well 18:29 < Dafydd> I'd partition the Ipod manually if I had to; but I think the Ipodlinux installer would still try to make it's own partition 18:30 < aegray> it will 18:31 < Dafydd> humm.. any suggestions? 18:32 * aegray would use linux to partition it and install 18:32 < aegray> I can't really help you with any installer 18:32 < Dafydd> is Cygwin able to do that? 18:33 < aegray> i don't think so but I may be wrong 18:33 < aegray> what's the other option than resizing the data partition? 18:33 < Dafydd> resize the fimware partition 18:33 < aegray> have you tried that one? 18:33 < Dafydd> but then I'll only get I think 45MB and nuter space ment for the Apple firmware 18:39 < Dafydd> trying this again... 18:45 < Dafydd> okay.. so far it's behaveing 18:49 < Dafydd> I made the config file, again it says it can't find (hd0,1)/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod but it is there 18:50 < Dafydd> when logging out of Ipod linux it does say it can't write to dev when shutting down 18:58 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pd9eb021b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:58 < Dafydd> the hard drive issue at the moment seems okay; but it still can't find rockbox even though I specified exactly where it is 18:58 < Dafydd> # iPodLoader 2.3 config file 18:58 < Dafydd> backlight = 1 18:58 < Dafydd> timeout = 10 18:58 < Dafydd> default = 1 18:58 < Dafydd> # here come the menu choices: 18:58 < Dafydd> Apple @ ramimg 18:58 < Dafydd> iPodLinux @ (hd0,2)/linux.bin 18:58 < Dafydd> Rockbox @ (hd0,1)/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod 18:58 < Dafydd> Sleep @ standby 18:58 < Dafydd> Disk Mode @ diskmod 19:00 < DerPapst> let me guess.. loader verion 2.4? 19:00 < Dafydd> I'll check 19:01 < Dafydd> yup, 2.4 19:01 < DerPapst> that's your problem 19:01 < DerPapst> use the latest version 19:01 < DerPapst> 2.5 19:01 < DerPapst> svn rev 1427 19:01 < Dafydd> 2.4 had problems with rockbox? where do I get 2.5? 19:01 < DerPapst> on the download page? 19:02 < DerPapst> 2.4 has no problems with older build of rockbox 19:02 < Dafydd> http://svn.ipodlinux.org/tools/ipodloader2/ ? 19:02 < DerPapst> but the current builds won't work anymore 19:02 < DerPapst> erither you build it from source or you use the pre built one 19:03 -!- rift1 [n=opera@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:03 < Dafydd> trying to find the pre-built one 19:03 < DerPapst> you're on windows? 19:03 < Dafydd> yes 19:03 < DerPapst> wait a sec 19:03 < DerPapst> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/iPL/Loader/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe 19:04 < Dafydd> thanks 19:04 < DerPapst> download and double click that 19:04 < DerPapst> when it asks you to install simply type i 19:04 < DerPapst> should work :D 19:04 < Dafydd> just run it, or should I use the ipodlinux installer to remove the old boot loader? 19:04 < DerPapst> no 19:05 -!- DQ [n=DQ@ip72-196-197-80.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:05 < DerPapst> you can update it 19:05 < Dafydd> okay 19:05 < DQ> Hello, when will the ipodlinux mac version be updated? 19:06 < DerPapst> ummm... 19:06 < DerPapst> ask the one who made it? 19:07 < Dafydd> bingo, works. Thanks! 19:07 < DerPapst> btw... the manual installation is fairly easy on macs 19:07 < DerPapst> Dafydd: np 19:08 < Dafydd> when I log out it still says "can't write log on /dev/" is that okay? o.O 19:09 -!- DQ [n=DQ@ip72-196-197-80.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:11 < DerPapst> ye 19:11 < DerPapst> s 19:11 < Dafydd> okay then. Thinks like that make me cringe woundering if there's a bug still 19:11 < Dafydd> things* 19:16 -!- khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:21 -!- rift [n=opera@242.56.70-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:22 < DerPapst> i think it's a bug. but it's a non fatal one :) 19:33 < Dafydd> well it looks like it all works now, no sound in either Ipod Linux or Rockbox, but likely because I don't have anything for it to use sound with yet. I'll come back if I can't get sound to work or whatnot. 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