--- Log opened Sun Apr 15 00:00:08 2007 00:04 -!- Drgb [n=moops@host99-215-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["reboot is the only thing you would need in a hurricane."] 00:17 -!- ALU [n=300@CPE0011951f5c2a-CM00137186e344.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:19 < ALU> Hi, I was just wondering if it is at all possible to run idarcnes without having loader arguments installed? If so, how? There is something about a .sh file on the wiki site for this, but it doesn't seem to be working for me. 00:28 < Insectoid> ALU, why not install loader arguments -- I assume you mean the kernel that can take arguments? I think it's available on the website and if not I just built one. 00:29 < ALU> I can't seem to get it to work. I've tried for days...everytime I try to start something, it loads podzilla 00:45 -!- ALU [n=300@CPE0011951f5c2a-CM00137186e344.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 00:48 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host99-215-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 01:49 < Insectoid> Courtc: Anything with audioizing pz? I realize this isn't a high-priority project, but I know of several people who would be quite interested. 01:53 < AriX_> I sooooo wanna do the key log thing ;P 01:53 < AriX_> but you guys would kill me :P 01:55 < AriX_> no one disapproves? lol 02:08 -!- HellDragon2 [n=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:09 -!- HellDragon [n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:14 -!- HellDragon2 is now known as HellDragon 02:15 -!- EdgeHM [n=chatzill@c-71-197-207-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:26 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.191] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:34 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 02:37 < courtc> Insectoid: It'll be a while. I'm bogged down with school right now. 02:38 < courtc> Probably won't be able to work on it this weekend at all. 02:39 -!- SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has joined #ipodlinux 02:45 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:14 -!- leachbj_ [n=leachbj@dial81-135-148-207.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:21 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:30 -!- dano_washere [n=dbd@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 < dano_washere> i just got back from holidays.. and all l can say is... Wow.. 03:32 < dano_washere> GBA :| 03:32 < dano_washere> New installer scsi support =D.. damn i <3 this community 03:34 < dano_washere> What other things have went on? 03:40 -!- dano_washere_ [n=dbd@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:43 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 03:43 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 03:49 -!- EdgeHM [n=chatzill@c-71-197-207-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:59 -!- dano_washere [n=dbd@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:04 -!- leachbj_ [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:28 -!- DoubleFelix [n=joezombi@c-24-9-61-108.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:29 < DoubleFelix> Can anyone direct me to directions to get iPL working but keep the Apple OS able to read the music? 04:29 < DoubleFelix> I've read tons of threads and they all don't work 04:30 < DoubleFelix> So far, I can get linux working if I use it as a macpod, but it can't read music in apple os, or I can install linux as a winpod using the official installer and get a kernel panic every time I start linux. 04:32 < DoubleFelix> ...is EVERYONE idle? 04:32 < DoubleFelix> X( 04:34 -!- DoubleFelix [n=joezombi@c-24-9-61-108.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:38 < dano_washere_> been more then 45 minutes and i still havent finished reading all the "new" marked topics 04:51 -!- kunai [n=300@CPE0011951f5c2a-CM00137186e344.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:52 < kunai> can someone help me out? im trying to install ipl using the official installer2 and it seems to have frozen at 97% 04:53 < dano_washere_> whatw as it up too? 04:53 < dano_washere_> was* 04:53 -!- dano_washere_ is now known as daniel_washere 04:53 < daniel_washere> Private: -NickServ- If this is your nickname, type / 04:54 < daniel_washere> was it writing the firmware? 04:54 < kunai> yup it is 04:55 < kunai> i did search the forums a bit but they didnt seem to get me anywhere 04:56 < daniel_washere> First time installing ipodlinux? 04:56 < kunai> nope 04:56 < kunai> i used miche's installer before 04:56 < daniel_washere> ah ok so your not sh** scared yelling "ZOMG OZMG GZ< BROKEN" 04:56 < daniel_washere> ah fair enough 04:56 < kunai> haha lol no 04:57 < kunai> i screwed it over the first time trying to get loader arguments and idarcnes to work, and i ended up having to reinstall it now 04:57 < daniel_washere> unfortunately i cant help ya.. might have happened to mine once or twice but i just disconnect it and restore it.. 04:57 < kunai> hmmm i tried that too 04:57 < daniel_washere> hmmm using loader2args installation? 04:57 < daniel_washere> anyway.. if its just sitting there and you have absolutely nothing important to loose off your ipod. 04:58 < daniel_washere> lose* 04:58 < daniel_washere> end task the installer 04:58 < kunai> oh wait nevermind it worked...so random 04:58 < kunai> thanks for your help 04:58 < daniel_washere> lol 04:58 < kunai> appreciate it 04:58 < daniel_washere> no probs 04:58 < daniel_washere> Although i did nothing.. 04:59 < daniel_washere> bored again.. 04:59 < kunai> you help kill the 3 or so minutes it took to go from 97% to 100% so be happy 04:59 < daniel_washere> YaY 04:59 < kunai> lol 04:59 < daniel_washere> puts gameboy advance emu on ipod =) 05:00 < kunai> lol isnt it still really buggy and slow? 05:00 < daniel_washere> ... no idea 05:00 < daniel_washere> i just got back from holidays and say igpsp flooding the recent changes on wiki 05:00 < daniel_washere> xD 05:00 < daniel_washere> so i guess its alright 05:00 < daniel_washere> "Runs at about 50-60% of the original speed" 05:00 < kunai> haha 05:00 < kunai> lol yeah 05:00 < kunai> i guess thats ok 05:00 < daniel_washere> Hmmm not bad in terms of features 05:00 < kunai> im gonna wait for better speeds though 05:01 < daniel_washere> still saves, sound and a menu! 05:01 < kunai> uh huh 05:01 < kunai> but speed! 05:01 < daniel_washere> Somehow i dont know if its going to get any faster 05:01 < kunai> damn... 05:01 < daniel_washere> heh im suprised they got it to run that fast even though it was made for psp 05:01 < daniel_washere> (or cross compiled again..) 05:01 < kunai> it was made for psp? 05:01 < daniel_washere> yer 05:01 < daniel_washere> http://ipodlinux.org/Igpsp 05:02 -!- RxDx [i=AXION@201-74-136-31-sj.cpe.vivax.com.br] has quit [] 05:03 < kunai> cool cool 05:12 < daniel_washere> .. 05:12 < daniel_washere> blank screen 05:12 < daniel_washere> i love this 05:12 < daniel_washere> for any arguments does the same. 05:12 < daniel_washere> black screen just appears 05:13 < daniel_washere> oh in that /bin... 05:33 < daniel_washere> http://ipodlinux.shawaus.com/ 05:34 < daniel_washere> should i edit the layout anymore :/ 05:47 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:13 -!- daniel_washere [n=dbd@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:18 -!- Davey_ [n=chatzill@63-231-129-114.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:18 < Davey_> hey 06:19 < Davey_> anyone here? 06:19 -!- Davey_ is now known as Davey9105 06:21 < Davey9105> hey 06:21 < Davey9105> anyone here 06:24 < Davey9105> ahhh............... 06:24 < Davey9105> omg 06:25 < Davey9105> does anyone know how to install linux manually 06:28 < Davey9105> omg............... 06:36 < Davey9105> im using windoes and the newest version of ipod video 30g 06:40 < lex> omg omg omg! 06:40 < lex> wiki knows 06:40 < Davey9105> really 06:40 < Davey9105> so simple.. lol 06:40 < Davey9105> >< 06:42 < Davey9105> but how do i install linux if the installer doesnt detect my ipod 06:55 -!- Davey9105 [n=chatzill@63-231-129-114.mpls.qwest.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]"] 07:05 -!- kunai [n=300@CPE0011951f5c2a-CM00137186e344.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 07:31 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:32 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:40 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@dial81-135-148-211.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:40 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 07:40 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 07:40 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:46 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 07:52 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:01 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.217.165] has joined #ipodlinux 08:27 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:30 -!- brun0_ [n=brun0_@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- mKo [n=chatzill@a62-248-157-64.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 08:47 -!- mKo [n=chatzill@a62-248-157-64.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 08:56 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-11b0e655.912-12-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 09:20 -!- kick52_ [n=Tim@customer6558.pool1.Fareham-HAM6040-BAS0001.orangehomedsl.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 09:20 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.217.165] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:47 -!- kick52_ [n=Tim@customer6558.pool1.Fareham-HAM6040-BAS0001.orangehomedsl.co.uk] has quit [] 09:59 -!- TSK [n=s_knight@c-24-10-255-200.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:59 < TSK> iPod Linux Rox! 'Nuff said... 10:00 < TSK> See? It's true. Nobody even TRIED to disagree with me... ;) 10:17 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.191] has joined #iPodLinux 10:22 -!- TSK [n=s_knight@c-24-10-255-200.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit ["Oops! 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14:40 -!- RxDx [i=AXION@201-74-136-31-sj.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 14:45 < ibd> no 14:45 < ibd> what are you trying to do? 14:45 < ibd> I can't help, but I'm interested 14:46 < iLauncher> ibd: arent you the one who is having a problem with iboy or idarcnes on the ipl forums? 14:46 < ibd> heh 14:46 < ibd> not really a problem, but I'd like to change some things 14:47 < ibd> why? 14:47 < ibd> :) 14:47 < iLauncher> oh yeah, you are trying to look into the idarcnes code and found the snippet for the volume, right? 14:47 < ibd> yes 14:48 < ibd> there's an integer called "volume" which has a default value of 64 14:48 < iLauncher> anywayz, due to the memory problem of the ipl kernel, loading too many images to different objects makes ilaunch slightly unstable. by slightly i mean, it becomes unstable only if you launch apps in a particular sequence 14:48 < ibd> so I supposed you could change it to 0 to see if it makes a difference 14:48 < ibd> I see 14:49 < iLauncher> so i wanted to know if the hotdog devs know a way to de-assign an image from an object, so that i can use that same object to assign another image to it 14:49 < ibd> hmm 14:50 < ibd> why not delete the object and create a new one? 14:50 < iLauncher> so the number of objects are reduced to half and at a time, only one image is assigned to that object. deregistering an object from the engine doesnt work 14:51 < ibd> hm 14:51 < iLauncher> i cant delete an object because you declare the array of objects at the beginning of the code. i have tried assigning images to half of the objects later in the code but once that happens, all the images are now loaded in a single ilaunch session, which is the same as before. 14:52 < ibd> "i cant delete an object because you declare the array of objects at the beginning of the code." can't you create a dynamic array? 14:52 < iLauncher> so i need the hotdog devs to tell me how to de-assign an image from an object (if possible). also, how to do a check whether that image is already assigned to the obj or not. if yes, then not to re-assign it again 14:53 < iLauncher> i know the number of objects i need to create. thats not a problem 14:53 < ibd> hmm 14:53 < iLauncher> so a dynamic array isnt required here 14:53 < ibd> I don't understand your problem then 14:53 < ibd> but de-assigning is more elegant anyway 14:54 < iLauncher> i wouldnt need to do all of this if the ipl kernel wouldnt run out of memory. this is all to play with mem allocation 14:55 < iLauncher> to maintain the stability of ilaunch, i had to be very very careful with the memory i use 14:55 < ibd> yes 14:56 < iLauncher> in the worst case scenario ie. i cant workaround this problem. it would be kinda ok because the amount of apps that ilaunch will be able to finally launch in this next release, i dont think anyone would be even able to reproduce the instability problem 14:58 < ibd> you should still try to fix it :) 14:58 < iLauncher> ofcourse, that goes without saying 15:01 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [] 15:03 < ibd> btw 15:03 < ibd> would it be possible to launch iLaunch from podzilla (from the file browser)? 15:04 < iLauncher> why would you want to do that? ipodlinux is the os for the ipod. pz2/pz0 are just apps like idoom, iboy, idarcnes etc. 15:04 < ibd> because I would love a nice ROM list for the emus, but I still like podzilla to boot up first 15:04 < iLauncher> but in the next release of ilaunch you will be able to launch podzillae ie. any podzilla 15:04 < ibd> but this takes time 15:05 < iLauncher> pz0 and its modified versions AND pz2 and its modified versions 15:05 < ibd> when I load pozilla first, I can do whatever I want, then go to ilaunch, play with the emu, go back to podzilla without a delay 15:06 < iLauncher> do you use pz0 or pz2? 15:06 < ibd> I can only use pz2 15:06 < ibd> I'm on a 30GB 5.5g iPod 15:07 < iLauncher> do you load pz2 for anything else other than playing with the emus? 15:08 < ibd> yes, for listening to my .mods 15:08 < ibd> using mikmodule 15:09 < iLauncher> well, loading idoom from pz2 isnt a good idea because it will definitely crash (considering pz2 hogs the max amount of memory). if you still want to load ilaunch from the file browser, you should be able to 15:10 < iLauncher> since ilaunch is an ipl app, it can be launched from within pz2 too 15:10 < ibd> I can play idoom fine, but other .wad files crash... I suppose that's because of no free RAM? 15:10 < ibd> ah, nice 15:11 < iLauncher> yeah. the ipl devs know about it but havent fixed it yet. i guess they have bigger priorities regarding the ipl kernel, than fixing the memory bug problem. a month back davidc__ said that he will look into it. but i didnt hear anything about it since then 15:12 < ibd> :( 15:12 < iLauncher> so i guess they have it in their mind, but its at the back of the list since they are shifting pz2 to the hotdog engine (the one that ilaunch is based on too) 15:12 < ibd> I'd rather see a patched kernel with lowered volume, though 15:13 < iLauncher> you are talking about idarcnes? 15:13 < ibd> all apps are loud/too loud 15:13 < iLauncher> oh ok :) 15:13 < iLauncher> lol...use one earphone 15:14 < fxb> iLauncher: just look at the hotdog sources... 15:14 < iLauncher> fxb: oh hi 15:14 < iLauncher> fxb: are you talking about de-assigning one image from the object and assigning another one to it? 15:15 < fxb> yeah. 15:15 < ibd> do you think a GBA emulator is even realistic? how do the GBA specs compare to a new video iPod? 15:15 < ibd> http://www.vgescape.com/features/55/gba-specs 15:16 < iLauncher> fxb: i know about hd_deregister(), but this only deregisters an obj from the engine and not an image from the obj itself 15:16 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.217.165] has quit [] 15:16 < iLauncher> i want to reduce the number of objects im currently using and thereby reusing the same object to assign different images to the same object (with only 1 obj assigned to it at a time) 15:17 < fxb> iLauncher: It's done in several (demo) files. 15:17 < fxb> ehm, image loading sources^^ 15:17 < iLauncher> oh. but i looked in main_prim.c 15:17 < fxb> look at hotdog_png.c or hotdog_jpeg.c 15:18 < fxb> object->canvas 15:31 < ibd> has anyone not seen this? ;) 15:31 < ibd> http://www.zxdemo.org/extra/Hooy-Program%20-%20Podfather.wmv 15:31 < ibd> it's an old demo 15:38 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:40 < fxb> ibd: yep 15:41 < iLauncher> fxb: are you talking about obj->canvas = HD_NewSurface(WIDTH, HEIGHT); 15:44 < fxb> no 15:45 < fxb> HD_PNG_Load for example 15:46 < iLauncher> im also looking at main_anim.c and i noticed that *object doesnt have a predefined array. but *object is being used as a 1d array whereas i define obj as hd_object *obj[18] 15:46 < iLauncher> now this is 2d array. which i thought has to be defined if you are going to use more than one image. but in main_anim.c, 5 images are being used but they are being assigned to different elements of the 1d array itself 15:48 < iLauncher> so whats the difference between 'obj[0].object = hd_png_create()' and 'obj[0] = hd_png_create()' ?? 15:50 < ibd> :O 15:51 < ibd> if there is an obj.object, there should be an obj.object.object, too, no? 15:51 < iLauncher> because the latter works fine. will the former work too? 15:52 < iLauncher> the weird thing is that if 'obj[0].object = hd_png_create()' works fine then im simply declaring a 2d obj array 15:55 < iLauncher> anywayz, got to go. thanx again fxb. will try the 1d array 15:55 < ibd> see you 16:01 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-177.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Peace Out"] 16:09 -!- HellDragon2 [i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 < fxb> iLauncher: you didn't read the source right 16:12 < fxb> there are 2 different types 16:12 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-201-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 < fxb> in main_anim.c there a circle_object 16:12 < fxb> there's* 16:14 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.61.4] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:17 -!- _F-F_[hmf] is now known as F-F_[hmf] 16:19 -!- HellDragon [n=JD@unaffiliated/helldragon] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:19 -!- HellDragon2 is now known as HellDragon 16:24 -!- Aicart [n=aideb_xc@156.Red-88-19-162.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["En Felip de nit veu visions, les cadires semblen lleons. 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