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02:48 < nanousr> Is anyone on who uses OSX as there main operating system?
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03:02 < imphasing> I do. :)
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03:02 < imphasing> I use OS X, nanousr.
03:03 < nanousr> imphasing: Do you know how to make the ipod_control directory visable?
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03:06 < imphasing> Do you have developer tools installed?
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03:08 < nanousr> imphasing: No, do you mean the ones located here: http://www.apple.com/macosx/developertools/ ?
03:09 < imphasing> It should be on your OS X cd
03:09 < imphasing> You can use SetFile to change folder attributes and make it visible
03:13 < dsheets> I'm trying to boot multiple kernels using loader2
03:13 < dsheets> and the kernel images aren't found
03:13 < dsheets> I've tried both hd0,1 and hd0,2
03:13 < aegray> macpod or winpod?
03:13 < Traveler8> the osx install cds?
03:13 < dsheets> winpod
03:14 < aegray> dsheets: whats in your ipodloader.cfg file?
03:14 < dsheets> never mind, i'm retarded
03:14 < Traveler8> mines?
03:14 < aegray> haha what was wrong?
03:14 < dsheets> I'd used hd0,0 and hd0,1
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03:14 < dsheets> wrong partition :-P
03:15 < aegray> heh k
03:15 < Traveler8> any ideas on how the hec to install ipl on ipod nano 1st gen?
03:16 < aegray> Traveler8: theres a whole bunch of docs online for how to do that + installers
03:16 < Traveler8> it dos not work
03:16 < Traveler8> i tried the auto instaler
03:16 < Traveler8> givs me this odd error about a file
03:17 < aegray> what file
03:17 < Traveler8> "An error occurred while installing linux: error reading firmware version from iPod data file."
03:17 < aegray> which installer are you using?
03:17 < Traveler8> even downgrading disnt work
03:17 < nanousr> From searching, it looks like that may be an error relating to the SysInfo file.
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03:18 < Traveler8> iPod-Linux Installer 0.4b (r4 alpha)
03:18 < Traveler8> tried ipodpatcher 0.8 loader2
03:18 < Traveler8> still same error even after downgrading
03:19 < aegray> use a diff installer
03:19 < Traveler8> canu giv me the lnks?
03:20 < Traveler8> so far that was my best bet
03:20 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Documentation - use installation->installer 2
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03:20 < Traveler8> works on mac osx?
03:22 < Traveler8> ack internet is bein a moron...
03:23 < imphasing> Yes, the OS X install CDs have xcode on them.
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06:04 < Sulo_Seppa> Anyone awake?
06:04 < aegray> yea
06:05 < Sulo_Seppa> I assume you have done this--on linux?
06:05 < aegray> yea
06:06 < Sulo_Seppa> did you svn?
06:06 < aegray> yea
06:07 < Sulo_Seppa> Okay, well I qmake the svn, and then make and am met with a ton of errors.. is that the order?
06:08 < aegray> what errors?
06:08 < Sulo_Seppa> 1 second, restoring ipod :/
06:09 < Sulo_Seppa> (I tried the network installer or whatever and it screwed up my ipod, the firmware image thing was corrupt, etc
06:11 < Sulo_Seppa> Well, there is a lot of errors..
06:11 < Sulo_Seppa> pastebin?
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06:12 < aegray> sure
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08:14 < iLauncher> fxb__: you still there?
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08:49 < iLauncher> fxb: you there?
08:49 < fxb> yes
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08:50 < iLauncher> when i was writing the contents of the modified string into the new file, it would add 4 junk characters at the end of the entire string, but only in the file. i confirmed the length of the string before and after the modification and they were same
08:50 < iLauncher> anywayz, i took care of that by subtracting 4 from the size value while using fread
08:51 < iLauncher> now i want to add spaces in the string if the new line has a smaller length than the old line
08:51 < iLauncher> oh, i mean, the new line is bigger than the old line
08:51 < iLauncher> to make space to write the new line and not overwrite anything else in the string
08:52 < fxb> you could also use fprintf instead of fwrite. that wouldn't write those junk characters
08:52 < iLauncher> but than i will have to use freadf. since im not working with a text file, i cant use those, right?
08:53 < iLauncher> i mean, i will have to use fscanf
08:53 < fxb> You'd need to read everything in and then write a new file.
08:53 < fxb> You can't insert something in the middle which is longer than the old string
08:54 < iLauncher> i cant make the buffer string longer by inserting spaces at the end of the old line in the string and then overwrite the entire old string+space with the new string?
08:54 < fxb> Or you have a fixed length for each string and if it's shorter than this length you pad it with spaces or 0's or so..
08:55 < iLauncher> but buffer is an unsigned char *
08:55 < iLauncher> so cant the length and contents of the string be changed?
08:55 < fxb> yeah, you can,
08:56 < fxb> and then you wan't to write a longer string somewhere in the middle of the old file?
08:56 < iLauncher> so thats what i want to do....buffer contains a list of strings read from a file. now i want to replace one line in buffer with another one. but i wont know if the new line will be the exact length of the old line
08:57 < iLauncher> if its smaller then i will replace the remainder with spaces. but if its longer than the old line, its a problem
08:58 < iLauncher> thats when i want to add spaces after the old line upto the length of the new line, and then overwrite the entire old line and spaces with the new line
08:58 < fxb> then read every line into another buffer.
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09:00 < iLauncher> oh ok. so first get the entire contents of the file into a single string. then break the string into 3 parts.....the 1st part should contain the strings before the line to be replaced. the 2nd part will contain the line to be replaced, and the 3rd part will contain the remaining part of the strings. modify the 2nd part, and then strcat all 3 of them
09:00 < iLauncher> is that about right, fxb?
09:04 < iLauncher> fxb: you there?
09:06 < fxb> I would create some sort of list, then read every line into the next list element. then loop trough it and eventually change something. then write line after line into a blank file.
09:06 < iLauncher> hmm, sorry. i dont know link lists. is the above method not practical?
09:07 < fxb> you can use your method... but what if you want to change more than 1 line?
09:07 < iLauncher> nah, only one line. thats all
09:09 < fxb> you can also read line by line into a small buffer (max. line length 80). if it's not the line you want to change, write it into the new file. if you want to change it, do it and write it back then.
09:09 < fxb> ehm, also write it into the new file^^
09:10 < fxb> then remove the old file and copy the new file there.
09:10 < fxb> there are plenty of possibilities.
09:12 < iLauncher> thats exactly the plan. now how will i recognize the start and end of a line (which i dont want to change) to copy directly into the file. im really new to making so many string modifications
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09:15 < fxb> use fgets
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09:38 < iLauncher> fxb: i tried this.... while ((strstr(buffer, search)) == NULL) fgets(buffer1, sizeof(buffer1), fp1);
09:38 < iLauncher> but i get junk chars in buffer1 where buffer1 is unsigned char *
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09:43 < iLauncher> i malloc-ed buffer1 like so: buffer1 = (unsigned char *)malloc(size+1);
09:44 < iLauncher> but i now get some random chars( not junk though). like for eg., i got it in buffer1. what the hell is that?
09:44 < iLauncher> in fgets, i tried sizeof(buffer1), size, and strlen(buffer1). no use. its the same thing
09:47 < fxb> i won't help you from here. if you can't read what fgets does...
09:49 < iLauncher> i did. i was reading that only from wikipedia. it reads from 'n' characters from a file and puts it into a buffer
09:50 < iLauncher> ok, so i cant provide sizeof(buffer1) or size in fgets. i will need to give the length of chars uptil the beginning of the string to be replaced
10:03 < iLauncher> fxb: ok i think i will have to use strcspn() to get the no. of chars that dont match the string to be replaced
10:04 < iLauncher> but just to test that its working correct, i modified the original file by placing the string to be replaced in the 3rd line, instead of the 1st line. but the strcspn() returned 2. instead of returning the count of all the chars before the string
10:06 < iLauncher> oh well, no problem. will have to work on this. thanx for your help fxb. talk to ya later
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11:08 < firefoxman_> when will there be support for ipod nano 2gen`?
11:09 < rvvs89> don't ask
11:09 < rvvs89> if you want to watch one group attempt to do it in detail then visit linux4nano.org
11:10 < firefoxman_> why is it so hard
11:10 < rvvs89> because it's encrypted?
11:10 < firefoxman_> wha?
11:12 < rvvs89> because the 2nd generation nanos have parts of their firmware encrypted in such a way that the developers are currently unaware of. i believe this was the case with all ipods since the 4th generation, but they had a boot sequence that was similar and so allowed the developers to run code on the ipod in order to dump the firmware
11:12 < rvvs89> this is not the case with the nano
11:13 < rvvs89> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
11:13 < rvvs89> an example of encryption
11:13 < rvvs89> that is why it's so hard
11:13 < firefoxman_> ah.
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11:42 < HD|Laptop> hello
11:42 < HD|Laptop> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/87949
11:42 < HD|Laptop> they say that iPL is infectable by a virus...
11:42 < HD|Laptop> that true?
11:47 < rvvs89> sure
11:47 < rvvs89> but that's not really a virus
11:48 < HD|Laptop> *phew* good
11:48 < rvvs89> because it doesn't actually act like a virus
11:48 < rvvs89> it doesn't self reproduce
11:48 < rvvs89> and if anyone posted something here that did something malicious
11:48 < rvvs89> you would know very quickly
11:49 < rvvs89> the only route to bricking your ipod via software would be to do a bad flash
11:49 < rvvs89> which really would brick it
11:50 < rvvs89> but meh, i cant be bothered to find out if you can do that from within linux
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18:38 < iLauncher> fxb: i have been look at all possible string functions (including strcspn) but i cannot use any of them to break up a string into 3 parts.....the 1st part will contain the start of the string till the part of the string i want to modify. the 2nd part will contain the part of the string i want to modify. and the 3rd part will the contain the remainder of the string
18:41 < iLauncher> anybody else that can help me with this problem in c?
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18:47 < fxb> as i said. use fgets
18:47 < fxb> and read what it does.
18:49 < iLauncher> fxb: true, but fgets needs the no. of chars to read from the file and for that i need to know whats the length of the no. of chars from the starting of the file to the 1st char of the string i want to modify
18:49 < fxb> and what does it also do?
18:49 < iLauncher> how do i do that. i can get a pointer to that position. but how do i convert that pointer to an int
18:49 < fxb> read the chars until a newline char comes.
18:50 < fxb> so what can you do with fgets? answer: read single lines.
18:50 < iLauncher> i didnt know that. i was looking at the wikipedia definition of fgets. theres nothing about the next line clause in there
18:51 < fxb> "The fgets function terminates reading after a new-line character is found."
18:51 < fxb> ...
18:51 < iLauncher> oh...
18:51  * iLauncher shrugs
18:52 < iLauncher> so then is it mandatory to provide the char length because i wont know how long the line will be
18:52 < fxb> 80
18:53 < iLauncher> ok. provide the max possible. it will terminate anywayz before that
18:53 < fxb> char line[81]; then fgets(line, 80, ...
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19:06 < Hugh> hello?
19:07 < hhehw> sup all
19:07 < Hugh> can somebody help me please?
19:09 < Hugh> ok i tried the installer and it said that i didnt have my ipod plugged in even tho it is , did anybody else get this problem , know how to fix it ?
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19:15 < hhehw> Hugh not that i can help but what ipod you have i am having the same problem with my 5g
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19:15 < Hugh> yeah same here its the 80gig version
19:16 < hhehw> 30 here
19:16 < Hugh> i dont think the installer is compatible with it yet :(
19:16 < hhehw> well this what its says on the ipodlinux site We have a new installer which supports ALL iPods
19:17 < hhehw> http://ipodlinux.org/5g
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19:18 < hhehw> but i have one problem
19:18 < hhehw> my ipod keeps asking to restor it
19:18 < hhehw> and the 2nd problem is same as you
19:19 < fxb> if you have a 5.5g, you need to install manually.
19:25 < Hugh> ok thanks
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19:30 < VoiDjirc> i am having a problem with bootloader2 and iboy. is anyone here able to assist me? (i understand that they are not official, i am just hoping that someone is willing to assist)
19:30 < VoiDjirc> windows os, 5g
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19:33 < VoiDjirc> the issue that i am having is when i select iboy from the bootloader menu it loads linux. 
19:33 < VoiDjirc> i have checked the bootloader config file, it is set up to load iboy 
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19:49 < hhehw> did anyone ans my question
19:49 < hhehw> my bnc went to hell so i cant read the logs
20:02 < VoiDjirc> what was your q
20:02 < VoiDjirc> idk if anyone answered, but i can try to help
20:06 < hhehw> well trying to load linux
20:06 < hhehw> on a ipod 5G
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20:06 < hhehw> istaller cant find the ipod
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20:57 < [San]> Hey, when I am installing iPL on my iPod 80GB I get to the part where I am partitioning the HDD. Then I try to save it by pressing w and it gives me an error 13
20:57 < [San]> "Permission Denied"
20:58 < [San]> any idea what I should do?
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22:31 < DerPapst> good morining at all
22:33 < fxb> hi DerPapst.
22:35 < DerPapst> hi fxb :)
22:35 < DerPapst> fist person successfully fooled...
22:35 < DerPapst> :D
22:35 < DerPapst> fun
22:36 < DerPapst> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=199586#199586
22:38 < DerPapst> 2nd and counting :D
22:39 < fxb> LOL
22:39 < fxb> haha
22:43 < DerPapst> hehe.. let's see how may i can fool ;)
22:43 < DerPapst> actually i've used josh's mymodule demo for that.
22:44 < DerPapst> i guess the guys who have written the "virus" did the same ;)
22:44 < fxb> did you write it?
22:44 < fxb> ah
22:44 < fxb> :)
22:47 < DerPapst> fxb: http://www.felixbruns.de/paste/index.php?id=79
22:47 < DerPapst> ;)
22:47 < fxb> does it also infect other files? :P
22:48 < DerPapst> yeah of course
22:48 < DerPapst> it highjacks all other modules ;)
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22:48 < courtc> one of the more retarded....
22:49 < DerPapst> :P i think it's funny
22:52  * DerPapst is hitting F5 like every 2 minutes :-D
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22:55 < vampyre1> anyone know how tog et ipl on nano? ist gen
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22:59 < DerPapst> seens that no one knows ;)
23:14 < rage1> wow, that's some awesome grammar...
23:14 < rage1> (5:55:05 PM) vampyre1: anyone know how tog et ipl on nano? ist gen
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23:17 < imphasing> courtc: anything interesting happening on the ccos front? :)
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23:19 < courtc> just got a scheduler going.
23:19 < imphasing> Sweet
23:22 < DerPapst> imphasing: that' not fair
23:22 < DerPapst> you are destryoing the joke of the week
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23:33 < DerPapst> good night fxb ;)
23:35 < hhehw> Anyone got time for a few noob questions ?
23:37 < DerPapst> yes, maybe, no <-- pick one of those, maybe you have luck,
23:38 < hhehw> yes
23:38 < hhehw> i got a 5G Ipod linux cant find it
23:39 < DerPapst> heh
23:39 < DerPapst> not so good
23:39 < DerPapst> but also not very descripive
23:39 < DerPapst> *descriptive
23:40 < hhehw> well i wanted to keep the question simple
23:41 < DerPapst> heh
23:42 < DerPapst> but i don't know how to help you because i don't understand the question 
23:42 < DerPapst> ipodlinux runs on your ipod. how couldn't it find the machine it runs on?
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23:43 < hhehw> hehe
23:43 < hhehw> lets start over
23:44 < hhehw> i got a Ipod 5G 30 GB when i run the installer its say ipod not found
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23:47 < DerPapst> ah
23:47 < DerPapst> i guess installer 2?
23:47 < DerPapst> http://www.ipodlinux.org/SysInfo
23:47 < hhehw> yes
23:47 < hhehw> 2.3w
23:48 < DerPapst> read the page i gave you the link
23:48 < DerPapst> it will help you
23:49 < DerPapst> and i need no some sleep :)
23:49 < DerPapst> *now
23:49 < DerPapst> 2 am here
23:49 < DerPapst> good night at all
23:49 < hhehw> thx good night
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