--- Log opened Tue Mar 20 00:00:01 2007 00:01 < synap> not just you 00:08 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-98.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-86-98.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:14 < synap> is there someone here who actually got the ipod serial thingy working ? 00:19 < synap> or an application that uses the protocol 00:29 -!- TerrorBite is now known as TerrorBite[- 00:29 -!- TerrorBite[- is now known as TerrorBite[uni] 00:32 -!- TouS [n=NormTouS@bas1-kingston08-1128702866.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:51 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FF253.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 01:05 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 03:09 -!- d3m0dick [n=ichig0@adsl-9-38-187.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:23 -!- Deathg0d [n=ichig0@adsl-153-122-125.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:27 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.141.211] has joined #ipodlinux 03:40 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 03:42 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-112-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:46 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-64-200-170.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:58 -!- rager [n=Administ@64.125.162.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:11 -!- owl_ [n=owl@c-76-21-51-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:11 < owl_> what's wrong with the website? 04:12 < owl_> can anyone else get on? 04:12 < owl_> hello? 04:14 -!- owl_ [n=owl@c-76-21-51-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:15 -!- owl_ [n=owl@c-76-21-51-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:36 -!- owl_ [n=owl@c-76-21-51-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["Changing server"] 04:41 -!- owl_ [n=owl@c-76-21-51-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:44 < owl_> what's wrong with the site? 04:59 < synap> no idea :( 05:25 < davidc__> owl_: works for me. 05:44 < owl_> ok. its finally working. wasn't working since 6pm PST 05:59 < owl_> so the installer is downloaded from www.josh.sys-tech.com? 06:28 < owl_> i can't get find rpm for fc6 for libcrypto.so.0.9.7.. can't install 06:29 < owl_> know which repo has it? 06:33 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.141.211] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:01 -!- owl_ [n=owl@c-76-21-51-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:46 -!- Ainslee [n=chatzill@serenity.ainsleehooper.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 -!- TerrorBite[uni] is now known as TerrorBite 08:02 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has joined #ipodlinux 08:06 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.203.36] has joined #ipodlinux 08:18 -!- kick52_ [n=Tim@91.108.247.174] has joined #ipodlinux 08:19 -!- kick52_ [n=Tim@91.108.247.174] has quit [Client Quit] 08:21 < TerrorBite> I think there's a bug in podwrite 08:22 < TerrorBite> UTF-8 files don't have the byte-order or encoding marks or whatewver written to them, so they're recognized as ANSI instead of UTF8 08:22 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:23 < TerrorBite> Basically, if I save a file with podwrite containing, say, curly quotes, then open it in Notepad or the iPod's Apple Notes viewer, then the curly quotes don't show 08:23 < TerrorBite> If I open it as UTF8 with another program, it's fine 08:24 < TerrorBite> but on;y if I explicitly specify utf* when opening it 08:24 < TerrorBite> utf8 even 08:24 -!- josh_ [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:25 < TerrorBite> who's responsible for podwrite? 08:27 -!- alvaro [n=alvaro@219.pool85-50-6.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ipodlinux 08:27 < alvaro> hi 08:27 < TerrorBite> hi 08:27 < alvaro> could I install linux in a ipod nano?? 08:28 < Gimp_> alvaro: not on the 2G ones 08:28 < Gimp_> on the older ones, yes, not on the new coloured ones though 08:28 < alvaro> cool 08:28 < TerrorBite> what generation of nano? 1st gen or 2nd gen? (square or rounded?) 08:28 < alvaro> first 08:28 < alvaro> where can I find information? 08:28 < TerrorBite> yeah, only 1st gen works 08:28 < Gimp_> then yes, you can 08:28 < Gimp_> alvaro: search the ipodlinux.org site 08:28 < Gimp_> there are instructions somewhere 08:28 < alvaro> ok thanks 08:28 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.203.36] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:28 < Gimp_> try installer_2 08:29 < TerrorBite> I just used the installer_2 08:29 < TerrorBite> then I had to do a kernel upgrade before it worked 08:29 -!- TerrorBite is now known as TerrorBite[afk] 08:31 -!- josh [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:33 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:39 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.84] has joined #iPodLinux 08:42 -!- alvaro [n=alvaro@219.pool85-50-6.dynamic.orange.es] has left #ipodlinux [] 08:47 -!- AriX__ [n=AriX_@host86-147-126-248.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:53 -!- TerrorBite[afk] is now known as UberBot 08:54 -!- UberBot is now known as TerrorBite[afk] 08:57 -!- Bi-noix [n=Binoix@86.66.187.91] has joined #ipodlinux 09:00 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@host81-156-139-28.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:16 -!- Ainslee [n=chatzill@serenity.ainsleehooper.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]"] 09:51 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FBC63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:34 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@host81-156-139-28.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:38 -!- shrewd [n=kocielow@host178.218.146.194.generacja.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 10:40 < shrewd> hi 10:41 < shrewd> i have a problem with my ipod Photo 10:41 < shrewd> could smb help me ? 10:43 < shrewd> while instaling ipodlinux installer said that : "The Package you selected 'factor' has a dependency on 'textinput' ..." 10:45 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 10:45 < shrewd> then i see few more info like that and then the whole instaler closeing 10:46 < shrewd> hello it's somebody here ? 11:28 -!- TerrorBite[afk] is now known as TerrorBite 11:32 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 11:48 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54bd355f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:53 < shrewd> hi 11:54 < shrewd> while instaling ipodlinux installer said that : "The Package you selected 'factor' has a dependency on 'textinput' ..." 11:54 < shrewd> could smb help me ? 11:55 < TerrorBite> no, smb is a network protocol, it won't help your dependencies 11:55 < TerrorBite> :P 11:55 < DataGhost> you're stealing my line 11:56 < TerrorBite> shrewd: really, ignore it. I got that error too and my ipod works fine 11:57 < TerrorBite> I have no idea why it comes up 12:19 < DerPapst> DataGhost: how do i do mkfs.fvat on that file? 12:19 < DataGhost> just specify the file 12:19 < DataGhost> :) 12:19 < DataGhost> vfat even 12:19 < DerPapst> istead of /dev/xxx 12:19 < DerPapst> ok 12:19 < DataGhost> yea 12:20 < DerPapst> done.. now i have to find some files :P 12:21 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 12:37 < DerPapst> DataGhost: visit my talk page 12:48 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:49 -!- wLLm [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 12:55 < DataGhost> yeah 12:55 < DataGhost> bit hard from the shower DerPapst :P 12:56 < DataGhost> ah yeah. that's what I guessed 12:56 < DataGhost> and fsck? 12:58 -!- w1ll14m [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:02 < DerPapst> i'll try it. 13:03 < DerPapst> but i have to read the man page first 13:03 < DerPapst> i don't know how to use fsck. 13:05 -!- moe61 [n=moe@DSL01.83.171.176.87.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:05 < moe61> Hello @all 13:05 < moe61> I have a problem with my ipod shuffle 13:07 < moe61> i can access the pod with windows itunes, linux amarok and as a usb-stick 13:07 < moe61> but the pod woun't play any file saved on it 13:08 < moe61> if i turn it on it flashes green and orange twice 13:08 < moe61> and then nothing 13:08 < moe61> anyone a idea? 13:08 < DerPapst> please read the topic. probably no one knows the answer here. best would be to ge to an apple store and ask them for help. 13:11 < moe61> it was worth an attempt 13:11 < DerPapst> DataGhost: would be fsck -VN -t vfat ./fat2.img correct? 13:11 < moe61> thanks 13:11 < DerPapst> sorry that i can't help you 13:12 < DataGhost> eh. use fsck.vfat 13:12 < DataGhost> :P 13:12 < DataGhost> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jan 16 10:47 /usr/sbin/fsck.vfat -> dosfsck 13:12 < DataGhost> doesn't really point to fsck :) 13:14 < moe61> no doesn't work 13:14 < DataGhost> moe61: [14:08:54] (DerPapst): please read the topic. probably no one knows the answer here. best would be to ge to an apple store and ask them for help. 13:15 < DataGhost> so... I wasn't talking to you 13:15 < moe61> oh ok 13:15 < DataGhost> this channel is not about iPod problems, it's about running Linux on your iPod, as the topic states 13:16 < DataGhost> and the iPod shuffle can't run Linux, so nobody in here will know about your problem (99% certainty) 13:18 -!- moe61 [n=moe@DSL01.83.171.176.87.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.12.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 13:21 < DerPapst> DataGhost: done. 13:22 < DerPapst> it's on my talk page 13:22 < DerPapst> (alternative pastebin :-D) 13:23 < DataGhost> meh. stupid 13:23 < DataGhost> how did you run it? 13:23 < DataGhost> oh wait 13:23 < DataGhost> :P 13:23 < DataGhost> and -Vvn ? 13:24 < DerPapst> only -vn 13:24 < DataGhost> yeah but what happens when you do -Vvn :P 13:24 < DataGhost> same thing? 13:24 < DerPapst> haven't tried 13:26 < DerPapst> DataGhost: http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADer_Papst&diff=0&oldid=16238 13:27 < DataGhost> meh 13:27 < DataGhost> same amount of clusters :( 13:28 < DerPapst> the odd thing is that it clames that there are now 48 files instead of 24 13:28 < DerPapst> and in that image are only 7 files 13:32 < DataGhost> there 13:32 * DataGhost compliments shark 13:32 < DataGhost> yeah strange.. but maybe it counted them twice since it's a verification pass 13:33 < DataGhost> and maybe it refers to 'hidden' fs-specific files or whatever 13:33 < DataGhost> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=194854#194854 13:33 < DataGhost> ^_^ 13:34 < DerPapst> s/Mount your iPod and do/Mount your iPod in linux and do 13:35 < fxb> hey DerPapst 13:35 < DerPapst> hidden fs-specific files sound too magic for me :D 13:35 < DerPapst> hi fxd :) 13:35 < DerPapst> err *fxb :P 13:35 < fxb> you asked why scsi inquiry doesn't work on macs yesterday... 13:36 < DerPapst> yepp 13:36 < fxb> because performing the command is different in every os 13:36 < fxb> and # personally can't test it on a mac 13:36 < fxb> i* 13:37 < DerPapst> aha ok 13:37 < DerPapst> so my guess wasn't that wrong ;) 13:37 < fxb> and btw, theres no version of Installer 2 for osx 13:38 < fxb> i'll find out how to do it on a mac and then contact MacPod. 13:38 < DataGhost> fxb do you have a intel core machine? :P 13:38 < DerPapst> cool :D 13:39 < DataGhost> DerPapst it's the linux forum :P 13:39 < DerPapst> DataGhost: i just noticed that too -.- 13:39 < DataGhost> :) 13:40 < DerPapst> i should seriously sleep a little onger that just 5 hours ;) 13:40 < DerPapst> *longer 13:40 < DataGhost> I made up for some lack of sleep the last few days 13:40 < DataGhost> 9 hours today:P 13:41 < DataGhost> had only 2 hours of sleep at a girl's birthday party ^^ 13:41 < DerPapst> DataGhost: if i do the very same fsck commandon my fat32 partition on my ipod i get another argument. 13:41 < DerPapst> *result 13:41 < DataGhost> and I didn't get much the day after either 13:42 < DataGhost> eh well yeah that's logical.. I guess? 13:42 < DataGhost> or how is it different? 13:42 < DataGhost> fxb? :) 13:43 < fxb> yeah? 13:43 < DataGhost> do you have an intel core(2) solo/duo?:) 13:43 < fxb> i have a intel centrino duo laptop 13:43 < fxb> an* 13:43 < DataGhost> centrino... hmm 13:43 < DataGhost> I don't think it'll work on that 13:43 < DataGhost> anyway, I have macosx on a separate partition (installed from vmware) on my core duo T2400 laptop 13:43 < DataGhost> boots from grub 13:43 < fxb> the logo is nearly the same :P 13:44 -!- wLLm is now known as w1ll14m 13:44 < DataGhost> you might want to try it :P 13:44 < fxb> nah 13:44 < DataGhost> I think it's legal enough for 'educational/testing purposes' :P 13:44 < fxb> not enough disk space 13:44 < DataGhost> oh 13:44 < DataGhost> heh 13:44 < DataGhost> yeah you probably don't have my 260GB :P 13:44 < fxb> 80GB 13:44 < DataGhost> ah well 13:45 < DerPapst> is it me or does the wiki have some porblems? 13:45 < DataGhost> oh yeah that reminds me to set my timezone to GMT+3 13:45 < DerPapst> ehh.. its me 13:45 < fxb> and i just re-installed linux because upgrading from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 was a bad idea ;) 13:45 < DataGhost> because the server is 2 hours behind :P 13:45 < DataGhost> heh 13:45 < DataGhost> how's that then? :P 13:45 < DataGhost> (no problems over here with Gentoo :P) 13:45 < fxb> x server problems 13:45 < DerPapst> DataGhost: post'd on my user talk 13:46 < DataGhost> oh! duh 13:46 < DataGhost> this *might* be explainable 13:46 < DataGhost> I think it seeks beyond the EOF 13:46 < DataGhost> which is still on your harddrive 13:47 < DataGhost> 79883913216 looks very odd, though 13:47 < DataGhost> oh wait, bytes 13:48 < DataGhost> that might be caused by the partition boundary then 13:48 < DerPapst> could fsck fix that? 13:50 < DataGhost> it doesn't look like it is 13:50 < DataGhost> :P 13:51 < DerPapst> meh... damn 13:52 < DerPapst> but i don't know how to format the ipod so that the apple fw doesn't comlain -.- 13:52 < DataGhost> probably the easiest thing to do is... write a program that understands FAT32, find out which files are at the end of the partition, move them off, truncate the partition, adjust the FAT, sync it and move the files back on there 13:52 < DataGhost> well what does it complain about then? 13:53 < DataGhost> oh that 13:53 < DataGhost> does it actually complain? :o 13:53 < DerPapst> it doesn't comlain but it fails at writing bigger files fast to the fat partition 13:53 < DerPapst> even if the recorded file is only 3 seconds long 13:54 < DataGhost> odd 13:54 < DerPapst> the files are always corrupted 13:54 < DataGhost> and what if you repartition it and format it in windows? 13:54 < DerPapst> i think that is the same reason why rockbox doesn't work on 5.5G 30Gb iPods after iPL is installed 13:55 < DataGhost> yeah well there might be a bug with the 2048b-sector-writing 13:55 < DerPapst> windows was not able to format the partition 13:55 < DataGhost> heh? 13:56 < DerPapst> that dialog that pops up if you click on format didn't show all the options 13:56 < DerPapst> and if i click the format button it doesn't do anything 13:56 < DataGhost> try using mtools 13:56 < DataGhost> mformat.c */ #define DONT_NEED_WAIT #include "sysincludes.h ...CheckSum=-sum; return bootOffset; } else { if(!keepBoot) { boot->jump[0] = 0xeb; boot->jump[1] = 0; boot->jump[2] = 0x90; strncpy(boot->banner, "MTOOL399", ... 13:56 < DataGhost> fresh.t-systems-sfr.com/linux/src/ mtools-3.9.10.tar.gz:t/mtools-3.9.10/mformat.c - 31k - 13:56 < DataGhost> that's the same banner I see in the 5.5G/nano firmware in the FAT16 partition 13:56 < DataGhost> rsrc/aupd 13:57 < DataGhost> or dump the superblock of your fat32 partition 13:57 < DataGhost> see if it's the same 13:57 < DerPapst> would be count=1 ? 13:57 < DataGhost> yea 13:57 < DataGhost> as long as bs >= 512 13:57 < DataGhost> >= 10 13:57 < DataGhost> :P 14:01 < DataGhost> DerPapst does it include that banner? 14:01 < DerPapst> it's the superblock of my ipod 14:02 < DataGhost> yeah 14:02 < DerPapst> what do you mean by banner? 14:02 < DataGhost> well 14:02 < DataGhost> oh wait you tried sending me a dcc 14:02 < DataGhost> connection failed :P 14:03 < DerPapst> i'll ddc again 14:03 < DerPapst> sending... 14:04 < DataGhost> hm, it is your external ip 14:04 < DataGhost> port 61591 14:04 < DerPapst> i'll mail it to you if you want. 14:04 < DataGhost> ohyeah sure 14:05 < DerPapst> mail sent 14:06 < DerPapst> i'm afk for about 1 hour 14:06 < DataGhost> mm different banner 14:07 < DataGhost> that bunch of crap I don't understand 14:07 < DataGhost> possibly an anagram.. doesn't look like it's got any standard endianity 14:07 < DerPapst> err.. what? 14:08 < DataGhost> *UOKJIHC 14:08 < DataGhost> that 14:09 < DataGhost> it's not rot13 :P 14:09 < fxb> OEM-ID 14:09 < DataGhost> yeah, looks like it 14:09 < fxb> google it :P 14:09 < fxb> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=UOKJIHC&btnG=Google+Search 14:10 < DataGhost> I was about to yeah 14:10 < DataGhost> for the aupd and rsrc images in the firmware, it's MTOOL399 14:10 < DataGhost> and for every linux-created fat32 partition it's mkdosfs 14:10 < DataGhost> so I was hoping to find the program responsible for this 14:10 < DataGhost> so we could use that instead 14:10 < DataGhost> DerPapst my best bet is mtools then... try that when you get back :) 14:12 < DerPapst> haha... google fonds a log file form this channel where dataghost is complainig that his ipod is called *UOKJIHC 14:12 < DataGhost> :P 14:12 < DerPapst> *found 14:12 < DataGhost> I thought that was the name in the first place 14:12 < DataGhost> but that's stored a few bytes later :P 14:13 < DataGhost> 00:00 < BleuLlama> yoU OK? 'Just I Hear Chatter... 14:13 < DataGhost> there we go... all figured out 14:13 < DataGhost> :P 14:21 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.36.91] has joined #ipodlinux 14:22 < iLauncher> HardDisk_WP: you there? 14:28 < iLauncher> i ran fsck.ext /dev/sdc3. it fixed all the folders in /usr and a few more. now when i try to create a folder 'lib' in /usr/ it says cannot create. but if i try to create any other folder in there, i can. i also tried to delete the entire /usr folder. but even that isnt allowed 14:29 < iLauncher> what can i do to either create the lib folder or delete the usr folder entirely? 14:29 < TerrorBite> probably /usr/lib is already there 14:30 < iLauncher> it isnt. even now when i run fsck.ext it runs clean 14:30 < TerrorBite> so ls /usr/lib says "does not exist"? 14:32 < iLauncher> im running slax 5.1.6 in vmware. the ext2 partition of the ipod appears as /dev/sdc3 14:32 < iLauncher> but when i do ls /dev/sdc3. it says not a directory 14:35 < shrewd> while instaling ipodlinux installer said that : "The Package you selected 'factor' has a dependency on 'textinput' ..." then i see few more info like that and then the whole instaler closeing 14:35 < iLauncher> i even tried to extract all the modules into a folder called lib and tried to directly copy that folder from my shared hard drive folder, into the /usr/ folder. still the same thing "could not make folder /mnt/sdc3_removable/usr/lib" 14:36 < DerPapst> iLaucher: you have to mount the partition fisrt 14:36 < iLauncher> DerPapst: eh? 14:36 < DerPapst> oh it is already mounted at /mnt/sdc3_removable/ 14:36 < iLauncher> im already looking at it, in slax 14:36 < DerPapst> because you can't do a think like ls /dev/blabla 14:37 < DerPapst> then do cd /mnt/sdc3_removable/ 14:37 < shrewd> i have ubuntu EE 14:37 < DerPapst> then do ls ./usr/lib 14:38 < iLauncher> it says ./usr/lib: Input/output error 14:38 < iLauncher> :s 14:38 < iLauncher> already doesnt sound good 14:39 < DataGhost> looks like the device is broken or your FS is still corrupt 14:39 < DerPapst> try rm -rf ./usr/lib 14:39 < DataGhost> did you fsck it while mounted? 14:39 < DataGhost> -f Force checking even if filesystem is marked clean 14:39 < DataGhost> and use that while doing fsck 14:39 < TerrorBite> do NOT fsck while mounted 14:39 < DataGhost> umount it, fsck -whateveroptions -f /dev/sdc 14:40 < DerPapst> TerrorBite: out of couriosity: why not? 14:40 < DataGhost> because the changes won't get updated 14:40 < DataGhost> sometimes it'll just refuse that 14:40 < DataGhost> there might also be files in use 14:40 < DerPapst> ah.. ok 14:40 < DataGhost> so you'll possibly cause a lot of damage 14:40 * DerPapst unmounts fat.img and fat2.img 14:40 < DataGhost> but you'll have to remount it anyway 14:41 < iLauncher> hey wait. i think rm -rf ./usr/lib worked. now it says no file or directory when i run "ls ./usr/lib" 14:41 < DataGhost> yeah. run fsck anyway 14:41 < DataGhost> :) 14:41 < TerrorBite> DerPapst: if you fsck a mounted fs... your filesystem becomes f*cked instead of fscked 14:41 < TerrorBite> because it's two different things trying to access it at once 14:42 < TerrorBite> I tried it once on Red Hat. All my files moved to lost+found and I had to reinstall 14:42 < iLauncher> shit, again while copying all the pz2 module folders, my vmware crashed. the same thing happened last time 14:43 < iLauncher> its only when im either copying the folders or when im safely removing sdc2, that this happens 14:43 < iLauncher> what should i do while disconnecting the ipod. should i unmount or safely remove? 14:43 < TerrorBite> unmount first 14:43 < TerrorBite> then unplug 14:44 < DerPapst> grrr... is there a way to check which programs are accessing a mounted filesystem? 14:44 < DataGhost> how did it crash iLauncher 14:44 < TerrorBite> windows shouldn't see it while it's on the VM 14:44 < DataGhost> DerPapst lsof 14:44 < iLauncher> TerrorBite: it doesnt 14:44 < TerrorBite> so you just unmount in linux, then unplug 14:45 < iLauncher> and the vmware crashing while safely unplugging the ipod causes the fs corruption 14:45 < DataGhost> that means it's not done safely 14:45 < DerPapst> DataGhost: thanks (stupid konquerer) 14:45 < DataGhost> :) 14:46 < iLauncher> k. now i will unmount the ipod, after i plug it in slax+vmware. then i will unmount it. then run fsck /dev/sdc3. is that right guys? 14:46 < DataGhost> yes 14:46 < DataGhost> but I don't get the umounting part 14:46 < DataGhost> does it automatically mount it or something? 14:46 < TerrorBite> it tends to, yeah 14:46 < DataGhost> heh. 14:47 < iLauncher> it gives, me three popups when i plugin my ipod 14:47 < DataGhost> iLauncher also, before doing umount or eject, run 'sync' 14:47 < iLauncher> due to three partitions coming up 14:47 < DataGhost> that way it'll flush it's buffers 14:47 < DataGhost> so when umount fails there's only little chance to get data corruption 14:47 < iLauncher> sync from terminal? 14:47 < DataGhost> yes 14:47 < TerrorBite> yes 14:47 < iLauncher> lol 14:47 < DataGhost> do everything from the terminal 14:47 < DataGhost> kill the gui 14:47 < DataGhost> :) 14:48 < DerPapst> fsck still claims that fat2.img is fine... i think that test doesn't work that way. 14:48 < TerrorBite> ctrl-alt-f1 14:48 < DataGhost> ctrl alt backspace :P 14:48 < TerrorBite> yes, but ctrl-alt-bs just makes gdm restart X 14:48 < DataGhost> oh yeah when you're using a dm it's stupid indeed :P 14:49 < iLauncher> how do i unmount the ipod and not safely remove it. fat32=sdc2, ext2=sdc3 14:49 < DerPapst> *gasp* too many linux pros in here 14:49 < TerrorBite> so you want to go ctrl-alt-f1 then type 'init 3' 14:49 < iLauncher> when i right click them i get mount or safely remove 14:49 < iLauncher> i guess, they are already unmounted 14:49 < iLauncher> i never mount them in the 1st place 14:50 < DerPapst> iLauncher: rickt click inicates that you are using the gui 14:50 < iLauncher> thats true. im a windows user, i cant help it :) 14:50 < DerPapst> better use the terminal 14:51 < TerrorBite> only way to tell if they're mounted: run 'mount' with no arguments in a terminal 14:51 < iLauncher> but i will use all terminal commands. if you guys can guide me 14:51 < DerPapst> savely remove could be the same as eject 14:51 < iLauncher> after running mount it does show me a list, including /dev/sdc3 on /mnt/sdc3_removable type ext2(rw) 14:52 < iLauncher> how do i unmount it? 14:52 < TerrorBite> umount /dev/sdc3 14:53 < TerrorBite> or, eject /dev/sdc 14:53 < DataGhost> no 14:53 < TerrorBite> eject is better 14:53 < DataGhost> that'll safely remove the iPod 14:53 < iLauncher> nopes, that didnt work 14:53 < DataGhost> so you can't access the partitions anymore 14:53 < DataGhost> iLauncher specify the error message -_- 14:53 < TerrorBite> oops, yeah, don't do the eject one 14:53 < iLauncher> DataGhost: how do i unmount but not eject the ipod 14:53 < TerrorBite> umount /dev/sdc3 14:53 < DataGhost> umount /dev/sdc{2,3} 14:53 < iLauncher> unmount: command not found 14:53 < DataGhost> 3 will do 14:53 < DataGhost> umount 14:53 < DataGhost> not unmount 14:54 < TerrorBite> umount not unmount 14:54 < DerPapst> without the n 14:54 < DerPapst> lol 14:54 < iLauncher> oops. i meant unmount 14:54 < DataGhost> be right back, I need a drink 14:54 < DerPapst> no you mean umount 14:54 < iLauncher> that was a type 14:54 < iLauncher> typo 14:54 < iLauncher> lol 14:55 < DerPapst> it says UMount not found?! 14:55 < iLauncher> no. it says "-sh: unmount: command not found" 14:56 < iLauncher> how does slax recognize mount but not unmount 14:56 < DataGhost> yes. use umount, not unmount 14:56 < DerPapst> and you are sure you typed umount /dev/sdcX? 14:56 < iLauncher> holy shit, that worked DataGhost 14:56 < TerrorBite> iLauncher: there is no N in umount 14:57 < iLauncher> oh. i thought you guys were saying use unmount instead of umount. sorry 14:57 < iLauncher> ok, thats done. what next.... fsck.ext2 /dev/sdc3 ?? 14:57 < DerPapst> haha ;) 14:57 < DataGhost> fsck.ext2 -nfv /dev/sdc3 14:58 < DataGhost> shouldn't change anything but should give you some useful output 14:58 < DataGhost> Now Playing: 10415. Enter Shikari - [(2007) Take To The Skies #04] Anything Can Happen In The Next Half Hour... (00:06/04:31, 193Kbps, mp3) 14:58 < DataGhost> god, I love this band :P 14:58 < DataGhost> album's been out since yesterday :P 15:01 < iLauncher> k. i ran fsck.ext2 twice. the 1st time it found a whole lot of problems and fixed them. the second time i ran with the "-nfv" switch. and the 2nd time it didnt find any bad blocks 15:01 < iLauncher> ok. now should i mount it again and transfer the files? 15:01 < DataGhost> d-uh 15:01 < DataGhost> the -nfv was meant to NOT change anything so you'd at least see that it was broken without possibly screwing it up more 15:01 < DataGhost> but you fixed the errors before 15:01 < DataGhost> so.. well that went allright then 15:01 < iLauncher> damn 15:02 < DataGhost> you could transfer the files again yes 15:02 < iLauncher> so its "mount /dev/sdc3" DataGhost? 15:02 < DataGhost> nope 15:02 < DataGhost> mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt/somefolderthatexists 15:02 < DataGhost> for example /mnt/ipod 15:02 < DataGhost> but you'll probably need to mkdir that first 15:02 < DerPapst> mkdir /mnt/ipod 15:02 < DerPapst> and then what dataghost said :P 15:02 < DataGhost> :P 15:03 < iLauncher> excellent, done. transferring files... 15:08 < iLauncher> DataGhost: ok transfer of all files done. now please tell me what exactly to do because the place where the error occured last time was only when i directly safely removed sdc3 15:08 < iLauncher> so should i umount /dev/sdc3?? 15:09 < TerrorBite> first, run sync 15:09 < DataGhost> sync, umount, sync, eject 15:09 < DataGhost> /dev/sdc for eject 15:09 < TerrorBite> sync; umount /dev/sdc3; umount /dev/sdc2; sync; eject /dev/sdc 15:10 < iLauncher> i hadnt mounted sdc2 15:10 < iLauncher> and it says permission denied while ejecting /dev/sdc 15:10 < iLauncher> sdc3 15:10 < TerrorBite> eject /dev/sdc 15:11 < TerrorBite> no 3 15:11 < iLauncher> oh 15:11 < TerrorBite> you want to eject the whole iPod 15:11 < iLauncher> is that right DataGhost? 15:11 < TerrorBite> not bits of it 15:11 < TerrorBite> think what a mess that would make on the table 15:11 < DataGhost> heh 15:11 < DataGhost> wouldn't matter that much anyway 15:11 < DataGhost> are you root? 15:11 < TerrorBite> you'd have to get a little weeny screwdriver and put it back together 15:11 < iLauncher> yup. root@slax 15:12 < DataGhost> mount | grep sdc 15:12 < DataGhost> does that return anything? 15:13 < iLauncher> yup. /dev/sdc3 on /mnt/ipod type ext2(rw) 15:13 < DataGhost> so you didn't umount that 15:13 < DataGhost> ... 15:13 < DataGhost> cd /; sync; umount /dev/sdc3 15:13 < TerrorBite> run this entire line: 15:13 < iLauncher> i cant. it says "permission denied" 15:13 < TerrorBite> sync; umount /dev/sdc3; umount /dev/sdc2; sync; eject /dev/sdc 15:13 -!- josh_ is now known as josh 15:13 < TerrorBite> ah 15:13 < TerrorBite> probably things are still using it 15:14 < TerrorBite> run lsof 15:14 < iLauncher> yup. now its unmounted 15:14 < DataGhost> ok 15:14 < DataGhost> sync; eject /dev/sdc 15:16 < iLauncher> yay! i have the latest pz2. thanks a lot DataGhost, TerrorBite and DerPapst for helping a linux noob like me 15:16 < iLauncher> so it was the damn gui that was causing this 15:17 < iLauncher> i need to keep a log of this conv. i will use slax and not ltools anymore. it really didnt work with ltools but ltools didnt cause any data corruption 15:18 < iLauncher> if it involves deleting/moving/editing files in ext2, i will use slax. otherwise ltools works fine 15:19 < iLauncher> thanks again guys. see ya 15:19 * iLauncher afk 15:19 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.36.91] has quit [] 15:19 < TerrorBite> oh yews, deletion 15:20 < TerrorBite> why does podzilla crash when it tries to delete things? 15:20 < TerrorBite> or is that just a feature 15:20 < TerrorBite> that feature's been there since pz1 15:25 -!- shrewd [n=kocielow@host178.218.146.194.generacja.pl] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:29 -!- TerrorBite is now known as TerrorBite|sleep 15:30 -!- shrewd [n=kocielow@host178.218.146.194.generacja.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 15:44 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@Va088.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@host81-132-16-145.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 < scox_vincent> website down :( 15:48 < TerrorBite|sleep> whjat, again 15:48 < TerrorBite|sleep> like a electronic yoyo 15:48 < TerrorBite|sleep> down uo down yuo down uo down uo dwon 15:49 < TerrorBite|sleep> up rven 15:49 < scox_vincent> lol 15:49 < TerrorBite|sleep> i need sl;eep 15:49 < TerrorBite|sleep> bye bye 15:49 < scox_vincent> yep and a new keyboard ;) 15:49 < TerrorBite|sleep> no, I just need sleep 15:53 < scox_vincent> no admin here ? 16:02 -!- AriX__ [n=AriX_@host86-145-208-73.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:05 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@host81-132-16-145.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:07 -!- Bi-noix [n=Binoix@86.66.187.91] has quit ["bye"] 16:15 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.247.174] has joined #ipodlinux 16:46 < synap> anyone experience with the serial protocol and 5g devices ? 16:47 < DataGhost> yeah 16:47 < DataGhost> Apple 16:47 < DataGhost> :) 16:47 < synap> hah ;) 16:48 < synap> lachen! 16:48 * DerPapst goes to a musical 16:48 < synap> have fun 16:48 < DerPapst> good bye :-P 16:48 < DerPapst> thanks 16:49 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54bd355f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!"] 16:50 < DataGhost> still an english channel in here synap :P 16:50 < DataGhost> read BitchX.doc by the way :P 16:53 < synap> You got me by the balls there mate, oe... 16:57 < DataGhost> eww.. I'd rather not 17:10 < synap> anyway, I am having this odd thing, I can get the ipod into air mode through the serial connection, but anything else than that gives nothing at all, very frustrating :) 17:12 < DataGhost> air mode? 17:17 -!- kRiMe [n=ichig0@adsl-153-123-205.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:18 < synap> AiR 17:18 < synap> 0x07,0xFF,0x55,0x03,0x00,0x01,0x04,0xF8 that one 17:29 -!- AriX__ is now known as AriX 17:29 -!- AriX is now known as AriX_ 17:29 < AriX_> :P 17:30 < AriX_> eye 'ate nickserv on freenode :P 17:30 < AriX_> MacNN rules 17:38 -!- d3m0dick [n=ichig0@adsl-9-38-187.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:44 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-237-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:44 -!- d3m0dick [n=ichig0@adsl-9-38-222.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:49 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:05 -!- kRiMe [n=ichig0@adsl-153-123-205.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 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[i=phiber@slackwaresupport.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 < ph|ber> y0 22:37 < ph|ber> is the site down again? 22:38 < ph|ber> so is the 5.5gen fully supported now? 22:39 < AriX_> not fully 22:39 < AriX_> but at least a good bit 22:39 < AriX_> lol 22:39 < ph|ber> yea. been working on it for 2 days now. 22:39 < ph|ber> sometimes i get mpd to load. 22:39 < ph|ber> then it just hangs. 22:39 < AriX_> ? 22:40 < ph|ber> then sometimes i cant get it to load libstdcxx 22:40 < AriX_> you should try my installer... 22:40 < ph|ber> errors out 22:40 < ph|ber> which is where? 22:40 < ph|ber> for linux? 22:40 < ph|ber> dont use windows 22:40 < AriX_> ok nvm :P 22:40 < AriX_> but 22:40 < AriX_> when ipl.org gets back up 22:40 < AriX_> you can do what my installer does manually 22:40 < AriX_> it's VERY easy actually 22:41 < ph|ber> the internet public library? 22:41 < ph|ber> :> 22:41 < ph|ber> where is your installer? 22:41 < AriX_> http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:jelDfMncb10J:www.ipodlinux.org/Installation:_Winpod_without_datacorruption+ipodlinux+installation+datacorruption&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari 22:41 < AriX_> my installer is for windows 22:41 < ph|ber> i may can roll up wine or a vmware installer 22:41 < AriX_> it's VERY easy 22:41 < ph|ber> there is the ipodpatcher for linux32bit there 22:42 < ph|ber> hrm. 22:42 < ph|ber> i think i have this downloaded 22:42 < AriX_> follow the tutoria, it's VERY easy 22:43 < ph|ber> sound and everthing works? 22:43 < ph|ber> on the 5.5 gen 80 gig? 22:45 < ph|ber> so do you repartition it? 22:45 < AriX_> no yo udont 22:45 < AriX_> and yes it does 22:45 < AriX_> g2g 22:45 < AriX_> ttyl 22:45 < AriX_> whoops 22:45 < ph|ber> later 22:45 < AriX_> bye 22:45 < ph|ber> ill re do my ipod to stock 22:45 < ph|ber> thanks 22:48 < DataGhost> ph|ber 22:48 < DataGhost> kill libstdcxx 22:48 < DataGhost> it does nothing but eat a damn lot of memory 22:48 < DataGhost> that might be the cause to both of your problems 22:51 < ph|ber> ok.. but.. question. from what ive read.. mpd requires it.. for sound correct? 22:52 < ph|ber> i just finshed the install from the page that arix posted 22:52 < ph|ber> unable to connect to MPD 22:53 < ph|ber> 2.4.24-ipod2 22:53 < ph|ber> svn-1415 22:55 < ph|ber> any ideas? 23:02 < DataGhost> no 23:02 < DataGhost> nothing requires libstdcxx 23:02 < DataGhost> who told you it does? 23:03 < DataGhost> bah I'm hungry but the lights are out already.. guess it's time to sleep in a bit then 23:04 < ph|ber> i read it.. 23:04 < ph|ber> snap 23:04 < ph|ber> got sound. 23:04 < ph|ber> had to add some mp3s 23:05 < ph|ber> hrm. 23:17 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.247.174] has quit [] 23:31 < ph|ber> anyone use their ipod for video playback on tv? 23:38 < Gimp_> yeah 23:39 < Gimp_> I do... but not through podzilla or anything 23:46 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:56 < ph|ber> hrm. what screen size do you encode to? 23:56 < ph|ber> i tried 320x240 but it looked like shit on the tv --- Log closed Wed Mar 21 00:00:00 2007