--- Log opened Tue Mar 13 00:00:02 2007 00:07 * AriX_ es backo 00:26 * DerPapst is going into deep sleep. 00:26 < DerPapst> good night at all 00:26 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD3A7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 00:26 < AriX_> lol 00:33 -!- dshocker [n=weed@likes.asians-all-night-long.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:33 < dshocker> hi 00:33 < dshocker> by chance is anyone here that could help me 00:36 < dshocker> anyone who can help me ill give 50$ via paypal to them. 00:38 < AriX_> ooh pick me pick me 00:39 < AriX_> dshocker, you there? 00:39 < dshocker> yes 00:39 < dshocker> indeed 00:40 < dshocker> I tried "updating" my firmware to the "expiremental" version now al i get is the ipod logo 00:40 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:40 < dshocker> the apple 00:40 < AriX_> ok 00:40 < dshocker> I need to reinstall a firm 00:40 < dshocker> and it wont reboot 00:40 < dshocker> O_o 00:40 < AriX_> reset your iPod by holding down Menu+Select until it resets, then immediately switch your hands to the Select+Play keys 00:40 < AriX_> and hold those down 00:41 < AriX_> until it goes into diskmod 00:41 < AriX_> *diskmode 00:41 < AriX_> then plug into your computer 00:41 < AriX_> open iTunes 00:41 < AriX_> and restore 00:41 < dshocker> Ueaj troed/ 00:41 < AriX_> ? 00:41 < dshocker> yeah tried 00:41 < AriX_> try again... 00:42 < BleuLlama> that method *will* work 00:42 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 00:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 00:42 < dshocker> hmsec 00:43 < dshocker> hmm.. 00:43 < dshocker> select = the middle 00:43 < dshocker> corect 00:43 < dshocker> correct* 00:44 < AriX_> yes 00:44 < BleuLlama> which ipod do you have? 00:44 < dshocker> nano 1gig 00:45 < dshocker> still logo 00:45 < dshocker> >> 00:45 < dshocker> no reboot 00:45 < dshocker> lol 00:47 < AriX_> keep trying till it works 00:47 < AriX_> cause it will 00:47 < dshocker> ok.. 00:47 < BleuLlama> turn off hold, press and hold menu+select 00:47 < dshocker> AriX from efnet? 00:47 < AriX_> "efnet"? 00:47 < dshocker> nvm 00:47 < BleuLlama> wow. it's been a while since we've had someone in here who hasn't been able to press buttons 00:47 < AriX_> lol 00:47 < dshocker> HA 00:47 < dshocker> I pressed them. 00:48 < dshocker> MENU + SELECT 00:48 < dshocker> for 30 seconds 00:48 < dshocker> nothing 00:48 < AriX_> do it again 00:48 < AriX_> and again 00:48 < AriX_> and again 00:48 < AriX_> and again 00:48 < AriX_> etc 00:48 < BleuLlama> well, my guess then is that the input pad on your ipod is broken then. 00:48 < BleuLlama> bring it to apple. sorry. 00:48 < AriX_> if it never happens, you're doing it wrong 00:48 < dshocker> Bleu 00:48 < AriX_> i think he's just having trouble getting it to work... it can be hard sometimes 00:48 < dshocker> i just used the ipod 00:49 < BleuLlama> in that case, AriX_ is right. you're not doing it right 00:49 < AriX_> I am going to kill whatever idiot registered the nick "AriX" :/ 00:49 < AriX_> he's never on 00:49 < AriX_> ever 00:49 -!- AriX_ is now known as AriX 00:49 < dshocker> heh 00:50 < dshocker> I got the ipod to reboot 00:50 < AriX> now im not authed i think 00:50 < AriX> col 00:50 < AriX> *cool 00:50 < dshocker> now when i get it to reboot what i do 00:50 < dshocker> ? 00:50 < AriX> Hold Select+Play 00:50 < AriX> until it goes into disk mode 00:50 < AriX> if it dosen't, reboot again 00:50 < BleuLlama> as soon as it reboots, press and hold select+play 00:51 < dshocker> OK! 00:51 < dshocker> disc mode its in 00:51 < dshocker> Now? 00:52 < AriX> plug it into your computer 00:52 < AriX> open iTunes 00:52 < AriX> go to your iPod 00:52 < AriX> and press "Restore" 00:52 < BleuLlama> AriX: get your paypal id read 00:52 < AriX> lol 00:52 < AriX> :P 00:52 < BleuLlama> dshocker: start paypalling the money to him right now. 00:53 < BleuLlama> you promised 00:53 < AriX> wait until he finishes :P 00:53 < dshocker> Yes 00:53 < dshocker> I will 00:53 < dshocker> Hod on 00:53 < dshocker> HOld* 00:53 < dshocker> Ill send it 00:53 < dshocker> whats ur pp 00:53 < AriX> where can i find that? lol 00:53 < BleuLlama> spell out your words in here, please 00:53 < AriX> i NEVER use paypal 00:53 < BleuLlama> AriX: your email addy you used to sign in to paypal 00:53 < AriX> but now i do 00:53 < AriX> ariw2003net@aim.com 00:57 < dshocker> ok 00:57 < dshocker> lala 00:58 < AriX> ? 00:59 < dshocker> man 00:59 < dshocker> dont give my addy out 00:59 < dshocker> You have sent a payment! An email has been sent to the recipient. 00:59 < dshocker> View the details of this transaction 00:59 < AriX> promise i wont 00:59 < dshocker> OR MY NAME 00:59 < BleuLlama> you probably don't want to post it in here then 00:59 < BleuLlama> Steve Bard? 01:00 < dshocker> no 01:00 < AriX> thanks! 01:00 < dshocker> my cousin 01:00 < dshocker> .. 01:00 < BleuLlama> heh. just guessing. ;) 01:00 < AriX> $52 01:00 < AriX> :P 01:00 < AriX> that was easy lol 01:00 < dshocker> KK 01:00 < dshocker> CONTINUE 01:00 < dshocker> WITH HELP PLZ TY 01:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@75.68.225.205] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 01:00 < BleuLlama> dshocker: i wasn't kidding. spell out your words in here, and quit with the caps 01:01 < AriX> dshocker: where are you so far 01:01 < AriX> plugged into the computer yet? 01:01 < dshocker> i got itunes running yeah 01:01 < AriX> ok 01:01 < AriX> go to your iPod in the Source pane 01:02 < dshocker> Where source panel? 01:02 < AriX> yes 01:02 < dshocker> in Summary? 01:03 < AriX> Select your IPod and then press "Restore" 01:03 < dshocker> ah ok 01:03 < dshocker> any idea why the ipod linux didnt boot? 01:04 < AriX> nope, sorry 01:04 < AriX> do you want to try again? 01:04 < AriX> or not 01:04 < dshocker> Yeah 01:05 < dshocker> I originally installed the first bootloader 01:05 < dshocker> but...the ipod penguin never popped up lol. 01:06 < AriX> lol 01:06 < dshocker> So I tried installing something else 01:06 < AriX> what installer did you use 01:06 < dshocker> theres 01:06 < dshocker> ipodlinux.org 01:06 < dshocker> windows 01:06 < AriX> Installer 2? Really? 01:06 < dshocker> Yea 01:06 < AriX> Well I guess to the dismay of everyone I'm going to recommend http://miche.aqua-gero.com/ 01:06 -!- Cbro [n=chatzill@CPE-60-228-115-53.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 < dshocker> Hmm...I need to edit SysInfo and windows isnt detecting it as a disk lol 01:10 < BleuLlama> turn on disk mode in itunes ipod settings 01:10 < Blast_Hardcheese> iPod Linux installers defeat the purpose 01:11 < dshocker> Options 01:11 < dshocker> And Enable disk use? 01:11 < AriX> dshocker: With Miche's installer, you dont need to do the sysinfo 01:11 < AriX> but yea, enable disk use 01:11 < AriX> http://miche.aqua-gero.com/nano/ 01:11 < dshocker> Well 01:11 < dshocker> I tried it 01:11 < dshocker> Ipod not found 01:11 < dshocker> :( 01:11 < AriX> oh 01:12 < AriX> is disk use enabled? 01:12 < BleuLlama> did you hit "apply" in the bottom right? 01:12 * BleuLlama gives up and wanders away 01:12 < AriX> lol 01:12 < AriX> im not giving up simply cause this guy just paid me $55 lol 01:12 < dshocker> hz 01:12 < dshocker> networking I know 01:12 < dshocker> Ipods i dont 01:13 < dshocker> lol 01:14 < dshocker> meh 01:14 < dshocker> Hmm 01:14 < dshocker> I rebooted in disk mode. 01:14 < dshocker> Still nothing 01:15 < AriX> reboot into apple os 01:15 < dshocker> force reboot it? 01:15 < AriX> yea 01:16 < dshocker> hmm... 01:16 < dshocker> Wont reboot out of disk mode 01:16 < dshocker> lol 01:16 < AriX> :P 01:16 < AriX> keep trying 01:17 < BleuLlama> i should really make a "this is how to press buttons" movie for you tube. 01:17 < dshocker> kk 01:17 < dshocker> there 01:17 < dshocker> kik 01:17 < dshocker> Bleu... 01:17 < dshocker> :/ 01:17 < dshocker> OK NEXT? 01:17 < dshocker> lol 01:18 < AriX> Spell out the words or you'll be kicked 01:18 < AriX> anyway 01:18 < AriX> booted into apple os? 01:18 < dshocker> yes 01:18 < AriX> ok 01:18 < Soap> dshocker: thank you for reminding us all this is Monday September the 4941st, 1993. 01:18 < dshocker> and i thought i was a geek:P 01:18 < AriX> select a language, and plug into the computer 01:18 < AriX> and then run miche's installer again (use the nano one, not the "easy" one 01:18 < AriX> ) 01:22 * Blast_Hardcheese is away: I'm busy 01:24 < dshocker> AriX 01:24 < AriX> yes? 01:24 < dshocker> where do i change the language on the ipod 01:24 < dshocker> nvm 01:24 < AriX> if it dosen't ask you, you're okj 01:25 < dshocker> says 01:25 < dshocker> ipod is not found 01:25 < dshocker> :( 01:25 < AriX> oh... 01:25 < AriX> try my installer 01:25 < AriX> http://ipodlinux.org/iPodLinux_Manager 01:25 < dshocker> there it goes 01:25 < dshocker> :) 01:25 < dshocker> THx 01:26 < dshocker> Now installing 01:26 < dshocker> :D 01:26 < AriX> cool, using my installer or the other one 01:27 < dshocker> wirjed 01:27 < dshocker> worked 01:27 < dshocker> the 1st 1 01:28 < dshocker> wtf lol 01:28 < dshocker> has me at a wierd interface 01:28 < dshocker> O_o 01:28 < dshocker> boot screen 01:29 < dshocker> black 01:29 < dshocker> force reboot or? 01:30 < dshocker> thanks dude :) 01:31 < dshocker> now to get video on this 01:31 < dshocker> lol 01:33 < AriX> lol np 01:33 < AriX> working/ 01:34 * AriX needs to go to bed 01:34 < dshocker> yeah 01:34 * dshocker finds how to load videos 01:34 < AriX> cool 01:34 < dshocker> Now i can load avis right? 01:34 < AriX> yea 01:34 < dshocker> kk porn 01:34 < dshocker> jk 01:34 < dshocker> lol 01:34 < dshocker> well maybe :P 01:34 < dshocker> xD 01:34 < BleuLlama> FINAL WARNING 01:34 < dshocker> Bleu what the hell is wrong with you? 01:35 < dshocker> BleuLlama* 01:35 < AriX> What is wrong with yoU? 01:35 < AriX> how many times have we told you to spell out your words? 01:35 < AriX> as in no "jk" 01:36 < BleuLlama> why do you expect to get around channel rules? I asked you not to do that, and you assume that you're above it all? have some respect. Arix here just helped you to run an installer... have some respect. 01:36 < Blast_Hardcheese> `spelling 01:36 < Blast_Hardcheese> oh dammit, 01:36 < BleuLlama> yeah there's no bot. :( 01:36 < Blast_Hardcheese> Yeah, there is, 01:37 < Blast_Hardcheese> someone just removed `spelling from his dictionary 01:37 < Blast_Hardcheese> Fortunately, I have it saved. 01:37 < Blast_Hardcheese> Hold 01:37 < Blast_Hardcheese> Wait no I deleted it 01:37 < Blast_Hardcheese> brb 01:37 < dshocker> wow.. 01:38 < AriX> sorry dshocker... we're a bit strict in here 01:38 < AriX> bleullama really hates "r u coming l8er" kind of talk 01:38 * BleuLlama almost kicks Arix... 01:39 < AriX> :P sorry 01:39 < dshocker> Ok I know about firmware on modems and such,I'm the one who found the bitfile method in motorola modems to change macs certs etc via snmp 01:39 < BleuLlama> s'okay, AriX 01:39 < dshocker> I'm not even that "tight" so to speak 01:39 < BleuLlama> you've contributed a lot to the project. contributors get some slack. ;) 01:39 < AriX> congrats, now you know about firmware on iPods too :P (At least enough to install anyway :/) 01:39 < AriX> thanks bluellama :D 01:40 < dshocker> Yeah,what's this in mips 32 asm? 01:41 < dshocker> that's what most broadcom cpu's are using in the motorola brand modem's 01:41 < BleuLlama> dshocker: the Generations page on the wiki has the cpu model and speeds... you can look up 01:41 < BleuLlama> er. ... 'mips' from there 01:41 < dshocker> ok 01:41 * BleuLlama is in his basement office... cold fingers make mistakes 01:42 < BleuLlama> that's a good band name 01:49 < dshocker> BleuLlama would I be able to convert something to avi and then use it or no? 01:50 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 01:50 < BleuLlama> look at the docs on the wiki about whichever movie player you're using 01:51 < dshocker> ok, 01:51 < dshocker> Mv Video Player (http://ipodlinux.org/Mv_player) - Plays compressed videos 01:51 < dshocker> would you happen to know if that works? 01:52 < BleuLlama> if it works? 01:52 < dshocker> yeah,if like it's real.. 01:53 < BleuLlama> because we put a lot of fake stuff on the site? 01:53 < dshocker> ... 01:54 < BleuLlama> i'm not going to dignify your question with a real answer 01:58 < Soap> amazing how uber cable-modem hacking skills don't translate into reading ability or comprehension. 01:59 * Soap promises to stay lurking for the next six months to make up for his mouth this week,. 02:00 < dshocker> god, 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> [08:43:pm] <@Gateway33> SynFlooding: 208.109 port: 443 delay: 5 times:150. 02:00 < dshocker> thats about to be happening to fucking freenode except with about 50k 02:01 < dshocker> and a long time 02:02 < BleuLlama> thank you for flooding in here 02:02 < dshocker> ban me 02:02 < dshocker> Make my dad 02:02 < dshocker> day* 02:03 < dshocker> exactly what i thought niggas. 02:03 < dshocker> stfu 02:03 < dshocker> im out 02:03 < dshocker> ttyl 02:03 -!- dshocker [n=weed@likes.asians-all-night-long.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 02:04 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:04 < BleuLlama> he just earned a kickban if he ever decides to cool down and come back 02:05 < BleuLlama> i think it'll be funny when people like him, or others on the wiki that have been either bigotted, rude, or the like, apply for a job in 10 years when they get out of high school, and are greeted by interviewers who have chat logs and such. 02:06 < BleuLlama> (all of this channel is publicly logged, as you all know) 02:06 < BleuLlama> fun! 02:06 * BleuLlama gets back to coding 02:12 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 02:12 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 02:23 -!- jackfusion [n=chatzill@S01060015e9ead0db.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:23 < jackfusion> hi all 02:23 < jackfusion> Is there a manual like for rockbox 02:23 < jackfusion> ? 02:26 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:39 < jackfusion> is there any one here? 02:45 -!- jackfusion [n=chatzill@S01060015e9ead0db.wp.shawcable.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]"] 02:48 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 03:08 < Gimp_> duh.. i dunno ... why doesn't he try the ROCKBOX support. not ipodlinux. jeez. i hate dumb people. they annoy me 03:09 < BleuLlama> i think he meant "is there a single manual for ipodlinux, similar to the way rockbox has a single manual to refer to" 03:09 * BleuLlama over-worded that 03:09 < BleuLlama> (intentionally) 03:09 < BleuLlama> although, his sentence can be parsed either way 03:10 < BleuLlama> Is there a manual (like for rockbox) 03:10 < BleuLlama> Is there a manual, like, for rockbox 03:10 < BleuLlama> etc. 03:10 < BleuLlama> I <3 English! 03:41 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:41 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:43 -!- dshocker [n=dshocker@likes.asians-all-night-long.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:44 < dshocker> shockingly,not banned. 03:44 < aegray__> stfu 03:44 < dshocker> you stfu 03:44 < dshocker> you fucking panzy 03:44 -!- aegray__ is now known as aegray_ 03:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray_ ] by ChanServ 03:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*=dshocker@*.asians-all-night-long.com ] by aegray_ 03:44 -!- dshocker was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray_ [aegray_] 03:46 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 -!- r34per [n=bitch@pool-71-105-51-242.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 < r34per> gj fools 03:54 < r34per> aegray_ 03:54 < r34per> just got the site owned for a week 03:54 < r34per> ds owning it 03:54 < r34per> rofl 03:54 < r34per> *claps 03:54 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=bitch@*.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net ] by aegray_ 03:54 -!- r34per was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray_ [aegray_] 03:56 < BleuLlama> i don't understand that. he had AriX help him get his stuff working, now he's preventing other things from happening. wonderful 03:56 -!- dshocker [n=weed@likes.asians-all-night-long.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:56 < dshocker> hackers 03:56 < dshocker> aegray just got the site owned for a week 03:56 < BleuLlama> why? 03:56 < dshocker> oh,he like's to be an asshole. 03:57 < dshocker> [10:43:pm] shockingly,not banned. 03:57 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=weed@*.asians-all-night-long.com ] by aegray_ 03:57 -!- dshocker was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray_ [aegray_] 03:57 < BleuLlama> and that's why you're doing some kind of DOS attack on our servers? 03:57 < aegray_> haha 03:57 < aegray_> just keep him on till he's traced 03:57 < BleuLlama> i really want to know why he thinks what he's doing is good 03:57 -!- dshocker [n=aegray@likes.asians-all-night-long.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:57 < aegray_> haha 03:57 < BleuLlama> and that's why you're doing some kind of DOS attack on our servers? 03:57 < dshocker> ZOMG 03:57 < dshocker> only thing i said,and he thinks he can trat user's like shit all the time fine 03:57 < dshocker> its me? 03:57 < dshocker> indeed 03:58 < aegray_> I'm treating users like shit? 03:58 < BleuLlama> we helped you 03:58 < BleuLlama> you asked for help 03:58 < dshocker> Yeah.I said shockingly,not baned. 03:58 < BleuLlama> you got it 03:58 < dshocker> banned* 03:58 < BleuLlama> so? 03:58 < aegray_> yea. i forgot to ban you from the last time. 03:58 < aegray_> so i made up for it. 03:58 < aegray_> nothin wrong with that 03:58 < dshocker> Oh,I'll make up for it with the ddos,nothing wrong with that either? 03:58 < aegray_> yea you're so right! 03:58 < aegray_> exactly the same thing! 03:59 < BleuLlama> so... 03:59 < BleuLlama> we helped you 03:59 < BleuLlama> you decided to dos our server? 03:59 < BleuLlama> explain how that's justified? 03:59 < dshocker> He bans later because he "forgot" and he was making up for it so I forgot to ddos because I "forgot". 04:00 < aegray_> your logic is flawless 04:00 < aegray_> you win. 04:00 < dshocker> woohoo 04:00 < dshocker> ? 04:00 < BleuLlama> nice. well, thanks for contributing to the project. we all appreciate it, dshocker 04:00 -!- jibbers [n=bitch@62.85.38.212] has joined #ipodlinux 04:01 < dshocker> Yeah,np. 04:01 < jibbers> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:01 < BleuLlama> we'll be sure to either not mention you at all, or get your nickname completely wrong when we write this up. 04:01 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=bitch@62.85.38.* ] by aegray_ 04:01 -!- jibbers was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray_ [aegray_] 04:01 < aegray_> weeeee 04:01 < BleuLlama> you want fame and glory, but will get none of it 04:01 < dshocker> Oh,and I want fame and glory? 04:01 < dshocker> how nice? 04:01 < BleuLlama> well, what do you want then? 04:01 -!- jibbers [n=bitch@222.216.108.54] has joined #ipodlinux 04:01 < jibbers> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:01 < dshocker> I took down isp's like sharktech,verizon,cogent I doubt i want fame and glory 04:01 < jibbers> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:01 < jibbers> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:01 < jibbers> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:01 -!- jibbers [n=bitch@222.216.108.54] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:02 < BleuLlama> you want that digg article with the headline "dshick ddos'ed ipodlinux site" 04:02 -!- owned [n=bitch@222.216.108.54] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 < dshocker> nope couldnt really said I do 04:02 < owned> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:02 < owned> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:02 < owned> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:02 < owned> YO FUCK THAT SHIT, YOU MOTHAFUCKAS GOT OWNED BITCHES, DDOS FOR A WEEK, NOW WHAT? 04:02 < dshocker> nor do I care if it is either way. 04:02 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=bitch@222.216.108.* ] by aegray_ 04:02 -!- owned was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray_ [aegray_] 04:02 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+m ] by aegray_ 04:02 < aegray_> :) 04:02 < BleuLlama> AriX: what's this idiot's email address? 04:02 < aegray_> so much better 04:02 -!- joshua_ [i=joshua@c-24-60-144-77.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v joshua_ ] by aegray_ 04:03 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-v AriX ] by aegray_ 04:03 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v AriX ] by aegray_ 04:03 < joshua_> is ipodlinux.org currently inaccessible? 04:03 < aegray_> yea. 04:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o josh ] by ChanServ 04:05 < joshua_> hmm, has anyone got /tools/ipodloader2 sitting around? I'd like to take a look at the source for that 04:05 < aegray_> get it from svn 04:06 < joshua_> ipodlinux.org has address 64.191.71.135 04:06 < joshua_> svn.ipodlinux.org has address 64.191.71.135 04:06 < joshua_> no dice, cap'n 04:06 < BleuLlama> give us a few minutes. 04:06 < aegray_> k sorry :( 04:07 < BleuLlama> AriX: ping 04:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v courtc ] by aegray_ 04:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v DataGhost ] by aegray_ 04:09 < aegray_> meh if you want to talk pm me. 04:25 -!- eggy [n=eggy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/yorkcc.eggy] has joined #ipodlinux 04:32 -!- Moofar^Colt [n=k@ip68-107-19-179.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:43 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-m ] by aegray_ 04:44 < dshocker> ddos is stopped. 04:44 < dshocker> I'm gonna go. 04:44 < dshocker> have a good night 04:44 < dshocker> k 04:44 < dshocker> ttyl 04:44 -!- dshocker [n=aegray@likes.asians-all-night-long.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 04:46 < davidc__> what a lame jerkoff 04:46 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b dshocker!*@* ] by davidc__ 04:47 < aegray_> bah that wont work 04:47 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:47 < davidc__> eh, it'll piss im off the next time he joins 04:47 < aegray_> haha 04:50 < eggy> lol 04:50 < eggy> ok, question - is it possible to "remote connect" to a nano? 04:52 < aegray_> how so? 04:53 < aegray_> ie how do you mean remote connect? 04:53 < eggy> just saw it mentioned on the wiki, that with some ipods you can do some sort of serial interface thing with them, getting your a console. Was wondering if I can do that with the nano, or if I need to get something special first 04:54 < aegray_> no 4gs and above aren't possible on 04:55 < eggy> that includes frist gen nano? 04:55 < aegray_> yea 04:55 < eggy> ah, ok 05:07 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:07 -!- [Sur`DataGho [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:11 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:11 -!- hyarion [i=hyarion@montezuma.acc.umu.se] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:11 -!- CIA-11 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:11 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- CIA-11 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- hyarion [i=hyarion@montezuma.acc.umu.se] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v DataGhost ] by irc.freenode.net 05:16 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:24 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:34 -!- corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-75-132.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 06:00 -!- corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-75-132.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 06:05 -!- Cbro [n=chatzill@CPE-60-228-115-53.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:09 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:24 -!- kRiMe [n=ichig0@adsl-144-59-158.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:33 -!- jackfusion [n=chatzill@S01060015e9ead0db.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:34 < jackfusion> hi all 06:34 < aegray_> hello. 06:35 < jackfusion> Is there a manual for ipodlinux like there is for rockbox? 06:35 < aegray_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Documentation 06:36 < aegray_> is the best you'll find 06:36 < aegray_> (as far as I know 06:36 < aegray_> ) 06:36 < aegray_> thats pretty straightforward if you follow the install guides on that 06:37 < jackfusion> I have linux installed but am looking for how to run modules on the ipod. 06:37 < aegray_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla_Modules 06:37 < aegray_> i think is the best resource 06:38 < jackfusion> have u ever put wiki on ipod yet? 06:38 < aegray_> no i havne't 06:40 < jackfusion> try this http://swannman.wordpress.com/2006/10/01/howto-read-wikipedia-on-an-ipod/ in linux. 06:41 -!- d3m0dick [n=ichig0@adsl-8-179-173.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:50 < jackfusion> thank u for your help!! /exit 06:50 -!- jackfusion [n=chatzill@S01060015e9ead0db.wp.shawcable.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]"] 07:23 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:42 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 07:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 08:16 -!- Ainslee [n=chatzill@serenity.ainsleehooper.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:16 -!- kapez [i=kapez@evot.us] has joined #ipodlinux 08:43 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@valhalla.syscall.eu] has joined #ipodlinux 09:00 -!- [Sur`DataGho is now known as DataGhost 09:06 -!- w1ll14m [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [] 09:07 -!- fxb_ [n=felixbru@p548FE497.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:12 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FE497.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:13 -!- fxb_ is now known as fxb 09:42 -!- fxb_ [n=felixbru@p548FEE80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:00 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FE497.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:03 -!- Ainslee [n=chatzill@serenity.ainsleehooper.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]"] 10:12 -!- _Hetfield is now known as Hetfield 10:23 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@valhalla.syscall.eu] has quit ["brb"] 10:36 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@valhalla.syscall.eu] has joined #ipodlinux 11:02 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:15 * AriX goes to school 11:15 < AriX> Sorry I missed all of your pings BleuLlama... I went to bed :P 11:30 -!- HellDragon2 [i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:24 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 12:31 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD0621.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:31 < DerPapst> uhh 12:32 < DerPapst> 3 voiced guys :D 12:32 < DerPapst> good morning 12:33 < DataGhost> hi 12:33 < DataGhost> I think that was because of the DoS last night 12:33 < DataGhost> they put +m on th channel 12:34 < DerPapst> aha... 12:35 < DerPapst> DoS <-- what's that? 12:35 < DataGhost> Denial of Service 12:35 < DataGhost> attack 12:35 < DataGhost> and it was distributed too, I think 12:35 < DataGhost> some lame ass decided it would be nice to take down the site 12:35 < DataGhost> I didn't quite catch the reason 12:36 < DataGhost> well, I did but it was bullshit so there's got to be a real reason :P 12:37 < DerPapst> heh 12:44 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 12:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 12:45 * DerPapst is reading the logs and is getting confused -.- 12:48 < DerPapst> what the hell has this dshocker kid made? ddos? 12:48 < DataGhost> yes 12:48 < DerPapst> heh.. 12:49 < DerPapst> that's just sad -.- 12:53 < DerPapst> AriX: already got yout 50 bucks? :-D 12:53 < DataGhost> don't trust paypal with money 12:53 < DataGhost> I think he can just cancel it 12:54 < DataGhost> that's even more likely (personality-wise), given what he's done last night 12:54 < DataGhost> and I'm not entirely sure but I think if you withdraw the money, they'll probably give you a negative balance 12:55 < DataGhost> so watch out with that 12:55 < DerPapst> i dom't have a playpal account. but i used something similar on ebay once. 12:57 < DataGhost> well, the thing I dislike about paypal etc, is that you can just request your money back, no questions asked 13:10 < DerPapst> is minix-sh able to handle functions in a shell script? 13:51 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 13:59 < DerPapst> seems that not. sytax error -.- 14:07 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@74-139-219-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 14:11 -!- fxb_ is now known as fxb 14:24 -!- d3m0dick [n=ichig0@adsl-144-137-27.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:31 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.0.176] has joined #ipodlinux 14:31 < iLauncher> BleuLlama: you around? 14:32 < iLauncher> or maybe AriX around? 14:33 < iLauncher> or is josh back? 14:36 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD0621.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:41 -!- kRiMe [n=ichig0@adsl-144-59-158.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:49 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.0.176] has quit [] 14:59 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [] 15:10 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:17 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:48 -!- peppo [n=slumpmas@c-6c70e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 15:48 < peppo> hello :) 15:48 < peppo> I have a 80GB video iPod, I understand this to be a 5.5G iPod? 15:50 < peppo> my second question then, is, if I want Ogg Vorbis/FLAC support _now_, is iPodLinux the way to go? (Rockbox isn't working yet AFAICT) 15:54 < Bi-noix> ipl is not a solution for listenning 15:54 < Bi-noix> no power management etc... 15:54 -!- IamTux [n=kman@68-185-9-19.static.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:55 < IamTux> morning IPL world 15:56 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 15:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 15:59 -!- peppo [n=slumpmas@c-6c70e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ipodlinux ["part"] 16:03 < IamTux> I have a friend that works in computer forensics, I approached him about the 2Gnano encrypted firmware 16:03 < IamTux> he told me about some tools that might help some 16:14 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:19 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:25 < HardDisk_WP> IamTux, g00d w0rk! 16:25 < IamTux> using a program called scalpel I was able to extract several pgp signatures from the firmware 16:26 < IamTux> this might be a good place to start 16:26 < HardDisk_WP> what? PGP sigs? 16:26 < HardDisk_WP> are the dudes from apple crazy?! 16:26 < IamTux> pgp is pretty good protection 16:26 < IamTux> it is an encryption type, used primarily for email 16:27 < HardDisk_WP> i know... 16:27 < IamTux> but it also extracted all the wav files from the firmware that are from the nike+ipod workout 16:27 < Bi-noix> pretty good privacy btw... 16:28 < IamTux> if it can read this data with a single pass and no decryption 16:28 < IamTux> then it is not encrypted that much I would suspect 16:29 < Bi-noix> what does the sigs and the was look/sound like ? 16:29 < Bi-noix> -es 16:29 < IamTux> the wave files were just fine 16:29 < Bi-noix> -was+wav 16:29 < Bi-noix> :X 16:29 < IamTux> they play well 16:29 < Bi-noix> great :) 16:30 < IamTux> I just used the linux command "play" and passed the name of the wav file and it played just fine 16:30 < IamTux> "Hi this is lance arm strong, that is a new personal best, Great job!" 16:32 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.15.162] has joined #ipodlinux 16:33 < IamTux> if I had to guess the entire firmware is encrypted with pgp 16:35 < IamTux> and scalpel chopped it up into 100000byte chunks for "dissecting" after attempting to strip the pgp 16:35 < IamTux> lets see what it looks like 16:35 < iLauncher> AriX: you around? 16:36 < iLauncher> anyone with a 1g, 2g and/or 4g macpod or winpod? 16:38 < IamTux> I have a 2gnano 16:38 < IamTux> winpod 16:38 < iLauncher> 2gb nano, or 2nd gen nano? 16:39 < IamTux> 2gen 16:39 < IamTux> what's up iLauncher 16:39 < iLauncher> IamTux: does ipl work on your 2ng gen nano? 16:39 < IamTux> not currently 16:39 < IamTux> I am working on correcting that *grin* 16:40 < iLauncher> ah ok 16:40 -!- Gunrun [n=Gunrun@82.31.1.96] has joined #ipodlinux 16:40 < Gunrun> Hello 16:40 < IamTux> sup gunrun 16:43 < Gunrun> I just installed linux on my 5.5, using iPodlinux manager, and when I boot into AppleOS it works fine, but when I boot into linux I get an error about the MPD 16:43 < Gunrun> and I can't find an obvious way to play music afterwards, I presume the media player daemon is the thing that does that? 16:55 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@valhalla.syscall.eu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:55 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@valhalla.syscall.eu] has joined #ipodlinux 16:59 < HardDisk_WP> yay 16:59 < Gunrun> what? 16:59 < iLauncher> :) 17:01 -!- Gunrun [n=Gunrun@82.31.1.96] has quit ["pfft sod it then"] 17:04 < HardDisk_WP> " I presume the media player daemon is the thing that does that?" 17:04 < HardDisk_WP> i meant thisw 17:04 < iLauncher> he didnt stick around 17:04 < iLauncher> hey HardDisk_WP: which ipod gen do you have? :) 17:05 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:06 -!- rage1 [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has joined #ipodlinux 17:07 < HardDisk_WP> iLauncher, 5.5g 80gb, 70 inj use 17:07 < iLauncher> 70 inj use? 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> yep 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> gamez,music, films, stuff 17:08 < iLauncher> ok. care to try ilaunch 1.3 on your 5.5g 80gb ipod? 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> i can't 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> iPL is wrecked full here 17:08 < iLauncher> yeah, right ;) 17:12 < eggy> sup... freak 17:12 < eggy> s 17:12 < eggy> z 17:19 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:19 < iLauncher> come on guys....there must be someone with a 1g, 2g, 4g or nano ipod that has ipl installed on them? 17:21 < braeuni> anyone got a backup for an 1g 4gb nano? 17:21 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@valhalla.syscall.eu] has quit ["bye"] 17:22 -!- rager [n=Administ@64.125.162.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:34 -!- IamTux [n=kman@68-185-9-19.static.mdfd.or.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:51 -!- Krutify [n=crutify@ppp-70-249-41-178.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:02 < iLauncher> fxb: you around? 18:08 -!- scorpion89 [n=jacopo@82.53.229.186] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-78-17.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 < scorpion89> goodnight :) 18:09 < scorpion89> there is some italian person? 18:11 < fxb> iLauncher: yep 18:12 < iLauncher> fxb: hi. i badly need a tester. are you up for testing ilaunch 1.3 on your photo? 18:12 < iLauncher> please 18:14 < iLauncher> fxb: well, will ya? i wont take much of your time 18:15 < fxb> okay 18:15 < iLauncher> :) 18:15 < iLauncher> fxb: can i pm you? 18:15 < fxb> yes 18:29 -!- Nicolas [n=chatzill@seg75-1-81-57-67-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:29 < Nicolas> Hello there! 18:29 < scorpion89> hi Nicolas :) 18:29 < Nicolas> I would like to talk to someone who could guide/help on the installation of Ilaunch 18:29 -!- IamTux [n=kman@68-185-9-19.static.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 < BleuLlama> Nicolas: ask iLauncher. he's around now 18:30 < Nicolas> i did the tutorial and everything but i cant find the solution... and Ilaunch is unsupported ... so do you know where i could get some help? 18:30 < Nicolas> Ok thanks 18:30 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD0621.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:31 < BleuLlama> he wrote it, he'll help you 18:31 < DerPapst> good morning at all 18:32 < BleuLlama> good morning at you as well 18:33 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:35 < IamTux> good morning DerPapst 18:35 < IamTux> I have been playing with a raw data dissection tool, proving to be useful 18:35 < DerPapst> :) 18:35 < DerPapst> oh cool and any results? 18:36 < IamTux> it reads for file signatures from a set of raw data and is able to reconstruct it 18:36 -!- iLauncher_ [i=yohu123@59.183.40.88] has joined #ipodlinux 18:36 < IamTux> well I extracted all the nike+ipod sound files from the firmware *grin* 18:36 < DerPapst> to bad they're not encrypted -.- 18:37 < IamTux> and acording to scalpel the that it is using pgp encryption 18:37 < DerPapst> osos or the nike+ipod thing? 18:37 < IamTux> the os 18:37 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.15.162] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 18:38 < BleuLlama> there's a hardware interface for the nike thing now, from http://sparkfun.com 18:38 < DerPapst> osos (or soso (little endian)) is the firmware part (subimage) that is enrypted. and it uses pgp enryption? 18:39 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: cool 18:39 -!- Nicolas is now known as jbesclapez 18:39 -!- iLauncher_ is now known as iLauncher 18:39 -!- lex_ is now known as lex 18:39 < lex> wow, nice work on 5.5Gs 18:42 < IamTux> DerPapst, what i have been able to find it seems so, the tool locates pgp signatures throughout the firmware 18:43 < DerPapst> good work 18:43 < IamTux> the program is called scalpel( it has a windows binary plus source code that can be compiled on linux/mac) 18:43 < IamTux> scalpel like the surgical knife 18:44 < IamTux> it can also be configured to look for anything that you can find a "magic number" for 18:44 < DerPapst> then publish the results on the Nano2G wiki 18:44 < IamTux> ok 18:45 < DerPapst> i think that might be helpful for scox_* too 18:45 < IamTux> if you know of any "magic hex" that I need to try to find 18:45 < BleuLlama> DerPapst: thanks for adding the list to my wiki page. i'll work on that soon. i'm a bit backlogged right now 18:45 < BleuLlama> :) 18:45 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: ok. take your time 18:46 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:49 < IamTux> I have a coworker/friend that is a computer forensics investigator, and I asked him about our little problem 18:49 < IamTux> he pointed me to this program... and said that if I wanted to really make it work... that i should break apart my ipod *grin* 18:50 < IamTux> I have not got to that stage yet 18:50 < IamTux> I need to look at some pgp brute force stuff first 18:50 < HardDisk_WP> lol 18:50 < HardDisk_WP> ya cant BF a pgp encryption if they use strong enough keys 18:51 < HardDisk_WP> ..and i dont suppose they use less than 512byte keys 18:51 < HardDisk_WP> <-- food 18:57 < DataGhost> IamTux not to put you off or anything but did you actually find anything *USEFUL*? because pgp might be used for a signature only, not for the actual encryption 18:57 < DataGhost> and 18:57 < DataGhost> the nike files are in there unencrypted 18:57 < DataGhost> you can just look in the firmware directory (which is documented) to find that specific part of the firmware image 18:57 < DataGhost> you'll find a FAT32 header there 18:57 < DataGhost> extract that and mount it 18:57 < DataGhost> there you go 18:59 < IamTux> yeah the nike files are not encrypted but it produced them with out effort on my part 19:00 < IamTux> it was a byproduct of the actual disection process 19:00 < DataGhost> it's just something Apple chose not to encrypt because it's huge and decrypting is costly 19:00 < IamTux> I happened to have the line for wave files not commented out 19:00 < DataGhost> and unimportant 19:01 < IamTux> the inportant thing is that it was able to find pgp signatures in the code 19:02 < IamTux> I am working on the decrypt right now... trying some things 19:03 < IamTux> from what i see in the firmware, I think it might be a simple cipher based on ceaser cipher, there are some character groups that repeat them selves and have missing letters in them... and I believe that might be the key to the cihper 19:03 < IamTux> or it may be just a random coincidence 19:04 < IamTux> what I meant by "signature" is actual pgp file header information 19:04 < DataGhost> it'd be worse if they store a one-time-path in the flashrom :) 19:04 < DataGhost> IamTux how is that identified? 19:04 < DataGhost> 0x???? 19:05 < DataGhost> there we go 19:05 < DataGhost> Firmware-19.something 19:05 < DataGhost> 0x61be00 19:05 < DataGhost> you'll see that it's just FAT 19:06 < IamTux> nods 19:06 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:06 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 19:07 < DataGhost> now what the hell was that 19:07 < IamTux> I am talking about starting and finshing bits that are 0x9900 and 0xa600 as begining and ending strings 19:07 < DataGhost> no buffer space available 19:07 < DataGhost> retarded windows tcpstack 19:07 < IamTux> heh 19:07 < IamTux> xp sp2? 19:07 < DataGhost> no sp1 19:08 < DataGhost> but eh. you do know that (especially in encrypted data) you're very likely to get bogus results with things as simple as 0x9900 and 0xa600 ? 19:08 < DataGhost> I think you'll even see them in unicode strings all the time 19:09 < IamTux> jas i got interupted 19:10 < IamTux> stupid customers 19:10 < IamTux> they need to leave me alone so I can work on my ipod 19:10 < DataGhost> 0x9900 appears 86 times in the osos part 19:11 < DataGhost> 0xa600 appears 100 times 19:11 < DataGhost> so eh.. unless there are actual specifications for the amount of data between them, I'd say it's a coincidence 19:11 < DataGhost> but do keep looking 19:12 < IamTux> I am going to work up a ceaser's cipher based on the letters missing from the text blocks (you know the ones that are the alphabet in caps and lower case with stuff missing 19:12 < IamTux> if I wanted to hide something in plain sight I would do that 19:13 < DataGhost> I'd use RSA 19:13 < DataGhost> what makes you think it's caesar then? 19:13 < DataGhost> because that would take at most 255 iterations to 'crack'? 19:13 < BleuLlama> Caesar Cypher is so 55BC 19:14 < DataGhost> hehe 19:14 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has quit ["Pong timeout"] 19:14 < DataGhost> well, if I were Apple, I'd never do that 19:14 < DataGhost> imagine the headlines 19:14 < DataGhost> 'Apple stuck in stoneage' 19:15 < BleuLlama> now, if you could have a caesar cipher that cyphered an element 6 times, each time through a shifting rotation of pseudorandomly arranged letters, and rotate some of them in specific times... then you'd have something 19:15 < BleuLlama> and i dub thee "enigma"! 19:15 < DataGhost> heh 19:15 < DataGhost> that's what I used in DatCrypt 19:15 < DataGhost> multiple-time-path (well a short repeating one-time-path) 19:16 < IamTux> DleuLlama well that _IS_ what the shifting missing data is what is pointing at 19:16 < DataGhost> only thing I missed was that the random data I entered in between (depending on the seed) was truly random and completely ignored 19:16 < BleuLlama> i should make an Enigma encoder/decoder for pz2 19:16 < DataGhost> the professors @ uni pointed that out too when I did a little presentation on that (high-school stuff) 19:16 < BleuLlama> ah 19:16 < DataGhost> it would be a lot better if I used the preceding random character as an extra seed 19:17 < DataGhost> because they could now easily see what was encrypted and what wasn't (if they get the same text encrypted several times) 19:17 < BleuLlama> Enigma is nifty. I blew a day or so at work a bunch of months back just getting a grasp on how it worked and getting a full understanding of it 19:17 < DataGhost> :) 19:17 < BleuLlama> yup. that's what led the enigma to be cracked in WWII... they re-used start cyphers 19:17 < DataGhost> hehe 19:18 < BleuLlama> i have a hard enough time understanding how it works, let alone how to RE it. 19:18 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < DataGhost> mine is fairly easy to crack if you're not using a password 19:18 < DataGhost> but if you are, the password becomes the seed 19:18 < DataGhost> so eh. I don't know of any method to decrypt it without the password/bruteforce 19:19 < DataGhost> but whatever... I made that 5 years ago 19:19 < IamTux> heh 19:19 < DataGhost> I lost the GUI (I only still have the source) and couldn't really be bothered anymore 19:24 < IamTux> staring at hex all day long is making my brain hurt... if it was bash or perl or even C I would have better luck with what i am looking at 19:25 < IamTux> I am a linux systems admin for my company... I let our computer forensics specialist do that 19:25 < DataGhost> well it's usually pretty useful in solving problems 19:25 < DataGhost> depending on the problem 19:25 < DataGhost> :) 19:25 < HardDisk_WP> hehe, pr0s on the iPL project...i think nano2g ain't that far away now :) 19:26 < IamTux> I know... i Have even found a problem with a binary that was compiled wrong and was able to fix it with a hex editor 19:26 < DataGhost> what? because someone found a *possible* lead to *something*? 19:26 < DataGhost> I'm still sticking with RSA HardDisk_WP 19:26 < DataGhost> which means that if he manages to decrypt it, he still can't run custom software 19:27 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, but: if we have the OS, we can patch/disassemble it 19:27 < DataGhost> yes, the OS 19:27 < DataGhost> and then we can't encrypt it again 19:27 < DataGhost> so we can't run the apple OS 19:27 < HardDisk_WP> wh? if we'd know how 2 decrypt, we should also be able to encrypt 19:27 < DataGhost> no 19:28 < IamTux> all we need to do is fork at the kernel... because once the kernel takes over then it is someone elses game... not the bootloader 19:28 < DataGhost> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA 19:28 < DataGhost> mathematically impossible HardDisk_WP 19:28 < DataGhost> read up on exponents and modulo 19:28 < DataGhost> 'impossible' at least until someone finds a nice and quick way for factorization etc 19:28 < IamTux> an RSA key would be tuff to break 19:28 < HardDisk_WP> "...and is believed to be secure given sufficiently long keys..." 19:29 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP suffice it to say that 19:29 < DataGhost> if you encrypt something with RSA 19:29 < DataGhost> you can't decrypt it anymore 19:29 < DataGhost> unless you know the decryption key, which is usually not given to you 19:29 < DataGhost> and they will be using a long enough key if they are using it 19:29 < IamTux> I use 2048 keys ok my "insecure" boxes 19:29 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, but somewhere it has to be stored.. 19:29 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:29 < DataGhost> I'd hate to be the company who uses 'sloppy encryption' and is laughed at 19:30 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP decryption key? yes. in the flashrom most probably 19:30 < DataGhost> encryption key? behind a couple of firewalls on a machine detached from the network 19:30 < DataGhost> inside Apple 19:30 < DataGhost> just read the entire page and you'll see why 19:31 < HardDisk_WP> yea... 19:32 < BleuLlama> i use 16 bit keys 19:33 < BleuLlama> except on wireless at home. 19:33 < DataGhost> :) 19:33 < BleuLlama> there i use 17 bit keys 19:33 < BleuLlama> one extra for good luck 19:33 < IamTux> my buddy(forensics guy) said that I am currently "working on an exercise in futility" 19:33 < DataGhost> I use a one-time-path, toss it away and then I send the message >:) 19:33 < DataGhost> IamTux that's probable, unless you can actually get some results with the caesar thing 19:34 < IamTux> he believes that it wont work unless you tear apart the ipod and suck out the nvram that we cant touch 19:34 < HardDisk_WP> IamTux, maybe we can figure out the pin connections of the nvram chip... 19:34 < DataGhost> I could just be your buddy then 19:35 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP they are known 19:35 < HardDisk_WP> and then put some hardware logger... 19:35 < DataGhost> you can get the datasheet for free 19:35 < leachbj> IamTux, try to decrypt the softupd firmware image in an older iPod. if you can clean-room break that (which is entirely feasible) then take a look at the nano2g images 19:35 < BleuLlama> IamTux: i am in agreement. 19:35 < DataGhost> it's a chip of 5x6 MILLImetres, 45 pins and it's epoxied to the board iirc 19:35 < BleuLlama> we need to do some destructive RE on it to really get anywhere 19:35 < DataGhost> so good luck with not breaking the chip :) 19:35 < HardDisk_WP> oh damned 19:35 < HardDisk_WP> that's not fair 19:36 < DataGhost> it's not an iPod giga, now is it? 19:36 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:37 < braeuni> anyone got a backup for an 4gb nano? :/ 19:38 < IamTux> if we did it would be "against the law" to share it with you right BleuLlama? 19:38 < HardDisk_WP> yes 19:39 < IamTux> before i started screwing with mine "trying to break it" i took a DD image of it 19:40 < IamTux> but it is a 4gig 2gen nano 19:40 < braeuni> uhm sorry 19:41 < DataGhost> http://www.sst.com/downloads/datasheet/S71258.pdf HardDisk_WP 19:41 < DataGhost> and sorry... not 45 pins, 48 19:43 < IamTux> DataGhost: do you have a tool that can extract the relevant asci characters from the hex code so I dont have to do it manually ? 19:43 < DataGhost> ?? 19:43 < HardDisk_WP> now only one problem left, the epoxy... 19:43 < DataGhost> what do you mean IamTux 19:43 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP I believe the epoxy is trivial 19:44 < DataGhost> the needed equipment is worth 'a few' nanos 19:44 < DataGhost> IamTux what are you using to view the hex code now then? 19:44 < iLauncher> how do i replace/rename an already uploaded image on the ipl wiki? i am on the 'Upload File' page: http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Upload 19:44 < DataGhost> because every hex editor I know shows the ascii values at the same time 19:44 < IamTux> I am using hexer 19:44 < DataGhost> it's not in portage 19:44 < IamTux> IE 0x24 = # 19:45 < DataGhost> try using 'hexedit' 19:45 < DataGhost> and you can use any ascii table to look up the characters 19:45 < DataGhost> heck, even the thing I coded in the loader can do that 19:45 < IamTux> ok 19:45 < IamTux> let me try again 19:46 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 19:46 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/IMG_7699.jpg something like that is what you want IamTux 19:46 < IamTux> my program is displaying the ascii value of the hex but i want to hex in > junk out 19:47 < IamTux> couldnt load that 19:47 -!- bmxr [n=BlueScre@d64-180-20-129.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:48 < IamTux> there it went 19:48 < DataGhost> eh. hexer seems like a perfectly normal hex editor 19:48 < DataGhost> if you want hex in -> 'junk' out 19:48 < DataGhost> just type the hex values in an empty file? 19:49 < IamTux> yeah 19:49 < IamTux> jas 19:54 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:55 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.238.77] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 < IamTux> I wanted to type the value of each hex pair into a empty file correct 19:56 -!- iLauncher [i=yohu123@59.183.40.88] has quit [] 19:57 < IamTux> anyone using Ubuntu w/Beryl ? 19:58 -!- Blast_Hardcheese [n=Blast_Ha@dsl092-032-215.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:59 < DataGhost> no, sabayon(gentoo) and gentoo 19:59 < IamTux> nice 19:59 < BleuLlama> I use X11R6 with WMX, TWM(old school) or AmiWM 19:59 < IamTux> I have played with sabayon... it doesnt like my laptop 20:00 < IamTux> Vaio PCG-K33, p4 3.0ghz 15" "true display" wide screen 20:02 < IamTux> when I am looking for productivity I use fluxbox... but for "eye-candy" i have gnome skinned with beryl 20:03 -!- jbesclapez [n=chatzill@seg75-1-81-57-67-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]"] 20:05 < BleuLlama> when i am looking for productivity I use x11 or os x with terminal windows... but for "eye-candy" i only use the os x terminals 20:05 < BleuLlama> ;) 20:09 < IamTux> I can't aford a mac or I would be running one 20:09 < IamTux> then I would have no use for linux *wink* 20:09 < IamTux> I can script everything I need in darwin 20:09 < BleuLlama> i don't run linux on any desktop machines anymore 20:10 < BleuLlama> once i started to get old used G3 and G4 macs, capable of OS X, i dropped linux. 20:11 -!- chuckfromchan [n=charlie@12-227-160-225.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 -!- scorpion89 [n=jacopo@82.53.229.186] has quit ["leaving"] 20:12 < HardDisk_WP> *aaaaah* a ubuntu user 20:13 < HardDisk_WP> <-- debian etch (kde 3.5, no beryl/compiz/etc) 20:15 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:15 < IamTux> I loaded a khexedit and I am starting to see some patterns with the color added to the mix 20:17 < DataGhost> haha 20:17 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:17 < IamTux> you are laughing at me now 20:17 < DataGhost> a few weeks back a webshop made the mistake of offering lcdtvs for 99 euros each 20:18 < DataGhost> lawsuit etc 20:18 < DataGhost> for the people who still wanted it for 99 :') 20:18 < DataGhost> and now another webshop is offering a free printer when you buy a pc 20:18 < DataGhost> you can just toss the pc out of the shopping basket 20:18 < DataGhost> add something cheap like a tshirt for 5 euros 20:18 < DataGhost> et voila, printer 20:18 < DataGhost> :P 20:18 < IamTux> nice 20:18 < DataGhost> I can't wait to see the dumb sheep starting a lawsuit 20:19 < AriX> dataghost: he cant cancel the paypal transfer 20:20 < AriX> plus i have his email address and full name :P 20:20 < DataGhost> so? 20:20 < DataGhost> why can't he cancel it? 20:20 < AriX> you said that he could ^^^^^^^ 20:20 < AriX> cause i already accepted 20:20 < AriX> the transfer is over 20:20 < DataGhost> hah no it's not that simple 20:20 < AriX> i have $52 in my paypal account, and no one can do anything about it 20:20 < DataGhost> at least when you buy stuff 20:20 < AriX> its' not? 20:20 < DataGhost> you can say that the seller never delivered his stuff 20:20 < DataGhost> and you'll get your money back 20:21 < DataGhost> and I'd leave the $52 in your paypal account if I were you 20:21 < DataGhost> you might end up with a negative amount otherwise 20:21 < AriX> i will 20:21 < AriX> :: 20:21 < AriX> :P 20:21 < DataGhost> paypal isn't a back so they don't have to obey banking rules either 20:21 < AriX> and no, transfers are different than buys and sells 20:21 < DataGhost> back=bank 20:21 -!- chuckfromchan [n=charlie@12-227-160-225.client.mchsi.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:22 < DataGhost> oh and also, with normal bank transfers (and this probably applies too) 20:22 < BleuLlama> AriX: i'm sure a bunch of people would be interested in his email and name... especially if he decides to ddos our server again... easy ban from freenode in the least 20:22 < DataGhost> you'll get the money 20:22 < DataGhost> but if the transfer was done with an 'uncovered' (don't know the word exactly) cheque 20:22 < DataGhost> it can still be revoked after 30 days 20:22 < AriX> umm he ddos's the server?? wtf? 20:23 < BleuLlama> AriX: soon after you left last night, he came in, and decided to DDOS ipodlinux.org, and kept on coming in via different ips to IRC 20:23 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:23 < DataGhost> how I'd love to have a real-life meeting with that guy 20:23 -!- xevix [n=xevix@lowerquarry-3-159.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:23 < BleuLlama> http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ipodlinux.log look around 02:00 on 20:23 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, with who? 20:23 < AriX> oh man 20:23 < AriX> why did he do that?? 20:24 < BleuLlama> 4:01 20:24 < DataGhost> that probably not-so-old guy from last year 20:24 < IamTux> DataGhost: have you seen the repeating 0xffff that is at regular intervals in the code 20:24 < AriX> ok email address coming soon... want it? 20:24 < BleuLlama> because he's a lamo 20:24 < BleuLlama> lame-o 20:24 < DataGhost> IamTux it's not code 20:24 < DataGhost> it's encrypted 20:24 < IamTux> sorry 20:24 < IamTux> in the encrypted data 20:24 < DataGhost> in theory, they could even encrypt the firmware to 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.....(repeating) 20:24 < DataGhost> using a one-time path 20:25 < BleuLlama> AriX: /msg it to me. 20:26 < DataGhost> IamTux take any other 2 bytes and search how many times you can find them 20:26 < IamTux> I understand that you will see them repeated 20:26 < DataGhost> the encrypted data is just under 0x61be00 bytes 20:26 < IamTux> that wasn't what I was talking about 20:27 < DataGhost> there are 0xffff possibilities for 2 bytes 20:27 < DataGhost> 61be00 / ffff = 61 20:27 < DataGhost> = 97 20:27 < DataGhost> so it's likely that you will see each sequence of 2 bytes 97 times 20:27 < DataGhost> if the encryption is any good 20:28 < DataGhost> you might want to make a table of values and the number of appearances 20:28 < DataGhost> and look for any discrepancies 20:28 < DataGhost> anomalies 20:28 < DataGhost> whatever 20:29 < AriX> bleullama: got it? 20:29 < BleuLlama> uh. no? 20:29 < DataGhost> [20:10:26] (DataGhost): 0x9900 appears 86 times in the osos part 20:29 < DataGhost> [20:11:14] (DataGhost): 0xa600 appears 100 times 20:29 < DataGhost> IamTux those are within 15% 20:30 < AriX> i /msg'ed it to you... 20:30 < BleuLlama> not to me 20:30 < DataGhost> [21:30:39] *** DataGhost at Netherlands; is identified to services 20:31 < IamTux> I have abandoned the "random occurrences" of the 0x9900 20:31 < DataGhost> [timestamp] *** AriX 20:31 < DataGhost> notice any difference? 20:31 < AriX> ? lol 20:32 < DataGhost> IamTux that was just to indicate that those 'random' values are 'near' 97 20:32 < AriX> imsoshockingniccuh@gmail.com 20:32 < AriX> Name: 20:32 < AriX> Janet Thompson 20:32 < AriX> i think thats his cousin's name 20:32 < BleuLlama> hah. cool 20:32 < IamTux> nods 20:32 < DataGhost> AriX I meant to say that you need to identify to services before you can /msg people 20:32 < AriX> oh 20:32 -!- AriX is now known as AriX_ 20:32 < IamTux> I am looking at values that repeat at regular intervals through out the set of data 20:32 < DataGhost> :| 20:32 < AriX_> i like being AriX :P 20:33 < AriX_> cant be authed and AriX :9 20:33 < IamTux> DataGhost: do you have a copy of the 1.1.2 firmware? 20:33 < IamTux> not for sharing but for looking at 20:34 < braeuni> i got some problems here with missing dependencies on my nano 4g 20:34 < DataGhost> IamTux yes 20:34 < braeuni> if anybody is pleased to help me 20:34 < DataGhost> you can just download it from apple 20:34 < braeuni> http://paste.debian.net/23628 20:34 < DataGhost> 19.8.1.1 by the way 20:35 < IamTux> cool 20:35 < DataGhost> I don't even own a nano 20:35 < DataGhost> :) 20:35 < IamTux> heh 20:39 < IamTux> DataGhost starting at 0x6040 there are groups of characters, in this case ! " # $ % & ' ..... so on so forth 20:40 < DataGhost> eh, I'm sorry you probably have a different file 20:40 < DataGhost> or do you mean 0x604000 or what? 20:40 < DataGhost> they just look like 0x21 0x22 0x23 .... 20:41 < IamTux> I did a DD of the partition on my ipod 20:41 < IamTux> and am using khexedit to look at it 20:41 < IamTux> the data location is 0000:6040 that i am starting at 20:42 < DataGhost> I don't even have 0x21222324 in my firmware thingy 20:42 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.238.77] has quit [] 20:42 < IamTux> do you use icq ? 20:42 < DataGhost> sometimes 20:42 < IamTux> 177899064 20:43 < DataGhost> what's that? 20:43 < BleuLlama> 0x426c0x6575 0x52556c7a 20:43 < DataGhost> :P 20:43 < IamTux> my uin 20:43 < braeuni> lol 20:43 < IamTux> 0x800ccc0e ? 20:44 < DataGhost> IamTux no it was actually a message 20:44 < DataGhost> something with 0c and 0e almost can't be 20:44 < IamTux> that was an olexp error code *grin* 20:45 < DataGhost> it did look strangely familiar windows-ish yes 20:45 < DataGhost> how odd 20:45 < DataGhost> I was going to think of another headline a bit back 20:45 < DataGhost> 'Monkey accidentally decrypts apple firmware' 20:45 < DataGhost> ridiculing the idea of caesar encryption 20:45 < DataGhost> and now I see your ICQ name 20:46 < IamTux> heh 20:46 < IamTux> that is K-monkey :P 20:51 -!- bmxr [n=BlueScre@d64-180-20-129.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]"] 20:55 -!- Colt [n=kevinb@ip68-107-19-179.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:55 < Colt> name Colt^onLinux 20:58 -!- HellDragonGh [i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 -!- eggy [n=eggy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/yorkcc.eggy] has quit [""] 21:08 < Colt> what does this mean? 21:08 < Colt> [root@localhost il]# tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sdd3 21:08 < Colt> tune2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006) 21:08 < Colt> tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdd3 21:08 < Colt> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. 21:09 -!- v1k1ng0 [n=v1k1ng0@251.Red-83-49-11.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:09 < IamTux> tune2fs is a program that will set ext2 filesystem attributes 21:09 < Colt> ya i know that 21:09 < Colt> lol 21:09 < IamTux> ok 21:09 < v1k1ng0> hello 21:09 < IamTux> I was working from there forwared 21:10 < v1k1ng0> ipod linux project doesn't work with ipod5g generation, isn't it? 21:10 < AriX_> it does 21:10 < IamTux> do you know what a superblock is colt? 21:10 < Colt> no, im trying to figure this out now 21:10 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 < IamTux> ok 21:10 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.238.77] has joined #ipodlinux 21:11 < IamTux> a superblock contains the data about the filesystem, 21:11 < IamTux> if you google wiki superblock you will find a wiki page about it 21:11 < Colt> right 21:11 < Colt> im reading about it now 21:11 < Colt> im mainly interested in how to fix it :) 21:12 < IamTux> mount the filesystem ro and do an fsck -y -f 21:12 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:12 < IamTux> and if that doenst work grab your ankles :P 21:12 < DataGhost> you can't mount a filesystem that is not there 21:12 < DataGhost> if the magic number is bad, it'll assume it's not ext3 21:13 < Colt> ahh 21:13 < Colt> got me! 21:13 < Colt> wait 21:13 < Colt> it is 21:13 < Colt> ext3 21:13 < DataGhost> dd if=/dev/sdd3 of=sb.bin bs=512 count=4 21:13 < DataGhost> upload that file somewhere 21:13 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 21:13 < DataGhost> because the computer is usually right 21:13 < DataGhost> :P 21:14 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 21:14 < Colt> whats a good place to upload a small file 21:14 < DataGhost> your personal webspace? 21:14 < DataGhost> doesn't your ISP offer you anything? 21:14 < IamTux> there are superblocks spaced throughout the filesystem... you could mount using a backup superblock 21:14 < Colt> hmm, i have no idea. 21:14 < Colt> lol 21:14 < IamTux> I dont remember the offset right now 21:15 < DataGhost> well then I guess fsck will detect that, right? 21:15 < IamTux> I had to do that 6mo ago 21:16 < IamTux> if you mount the filesystem with a backup superblock then run the fsck it will fix the initial superblock 21:16 < DataGhost> fsck a mounted fs!? 21:16 < IamTux> mounted ro 21:16 < DataGhost> oh. 21:16 < Colt> dataghost, how bout I send you the file, its only 2k 21:17 < DataGhost> yeah, whatever 21:17 < IamTux> heh 21:17 < DataGhost> you're not registered though 21:17 < Colt> i think i am 21:18 < Colt> do you see file transfer option? 21:19 < v1k1ng0> DataGhost: do you know if ipodlinux works in 5th generation? 21:19 < Colt> yes 21:19 < DataGhost> will you read what I say? 21:19 < Colt> oh shoot 21:19 < DataGhost> because someone already answered you 10 seconds after your first question 21:19 < Colt> i typed my password wrong 21:19 -!- bholland [n=bholland@d142-179-85-105.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:20 -!- Colt is now known as Colt^onLinux 21:20 -!- oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:23 < DataGhost> that's FAT32 21:24 < Colt^onLinux> hmm 21:25 < DataGhost> next time you transfer something, highlight me 21:25 < Colt^onLinux> perhaps I made an error, I will redo the partition table 21:25 < DataGhost> because my client autoaccepts and pushes it to the background so I usually don't really notice 21:25 < DataGhost> perhaps you created the wrong FS on the wrong partition 21:25 < DataGhost> no 21:25 < Colt^onLinux> what do you mean highlight you? 21:25 < DataGhost> you didn't create an FS 21:25 < DataGhost> (highlight me = say my nickname) 21:25 < Colt^onLinux> oh 21:25 < DataGhost> it's the FAT32 partition iTunes creates 21:25 < DataGhost> so you didn't create the FS at all 21:26 < DataGhost> just partitioning isn't enough 21:26 < v1k1ng0> ok, thx Colt^onLinux and DataGhost, I don't know before if arix reply to me or to other person 21:26 < Colt^onLinux> oh dur 21:26 < Colt^onLinux> thanks dataghost 21:26 < Colt^onLinux> dumb mistake 21:26 < v1k1ng0> I've formatted my ipod now on linux 21:26 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 21:26 < v1k1ng0> when I go to sync with gtkpod 21:26 < DataGhost> v1k1ng0 you could also read the wiki 21:27 < DataGhost> it'll tell you everything 21:27 < v1k1ng0> it say me that can't read the superblock :-? 21:27 < DataGhost> then it probably can't 21:27 < v1k1ng0> on /dev/sda2 21:27 < v1k1ng0> how I fix it? 21:27 < DataGhost> ... 21:27 < DataGhost> create the actual filesystem 21:27 < DataGhost> read the wiki for that 21:28 < v1k1ng0> I've created 2 partitions 21:28 < v1k1ng0> one for firmware of 150MB (type 0, empty) and other fat32 21:28 < DataGhost> v1k1ng0 if you want to write a book, writing a table of contents will not automatically write the whole story 21:28 < v1k1ng0> what is the problem? 21:29 < DataGhost> and why the hell have you 'created' 2 partitions in a 'default' setup with a needlessly large firmware partition? 21:29 < v1k1ng0> I don't understand very well, I'm spanish ... 21:30 < DataGhost> if you're not going to add an ext3 partition, restore your partitiontable to its previous state 21:30 < v1k1ng0> I can't mount the ipod now on linux 21:30 < DataGhost> no DUH 21:30 < DataGhost> you told it to look for the fat32 partition where it isn't 21:31 < v1k1ng0> sorry ... I start: I only want have the ipod like before, normal 21:31 < Colt^onLinux> rofl 21:31 < v1k1ng0> not for ipodlinux (for ipodlinux I will read later) 21:31 < Colt^onLinux> rofl 21:31 < Colt^onLinux> then start itunes and click restore 21:31 < Colt^onLinux> and get out of here 21:31 < DataGhost> you didn't need to change anything v1k1ng0 21:31 < DataGhost> you just screwed it up 21:31 < v1k1ng0> itunes is for windows, I use linux 21:31 < Colt^onLinux> lol 21:32 < DataGhost> restore your partitiontable to what it was before. 21:32 < v1k1ng0> I want do it in linux :) 21:32 < Colt^onLinux> you can't use your ipod without ipodLinux in linux 21:32 < DataGhost> you can 21:32 < Colt^onLinux> regular ipod software is windows or mac only 21:32 < Colt^onLinux> well 21:32 < Colt^onLinux> i guess you can 21:32 < DataGhost> there are linux programs 21:32 < v1k1ng0> gtkpod 21:32 < v1k1ng0> for example 21:32 < DataGhost> v1k1ng0 you made a bogus partitiontable so restore it and it'll be fine 21:32 < v1k1ng0> it works for me before, but now I've formatted all ipod :) for probing ... 21:32 < DataGhost> next time try to actually figure out what you're doing before you're doing it 21:33 < IamTux> I use gtk-pod 21:33 < IamTux> and gnupod 21:33 < v1k1ng0> DataGhost: but it is good ... I've done good. With fdisk of linux I've created 2 partitions, one of 150mb, because firmware is of 135MB and other partition like d type 21:34 < v1k1ng0> the first partition is 0 type (empty) 21:34 < DataGhost> yes. 21:34 < DataGhost> and now I'm telling you to put it back the way it was 21:34 < v1k1ng0> then I do: mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n "foo" /dev/sda2 21:34 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.238.77] has quit [] 21:34 < DataGhost> because the firmware needs to be 128MB 21:34 < DataGhost> oh. yeah that should work 21:34 < DataGhost> you actually did that? 21:34 < DataGhost> use -S 2048 21:35 < v1k1ng0> what size I use for the first partition? 21:35 < BleuLlama> isn't this on the wiki? 21:35 < v1k1ng0> du -h backup_firmware 21:35 < DataGhost> just leave it unless you can find it on the wiki 21:36 < v1k1ng0> 126M backup_firmware 21:36 < DataGhost> use -S 2048 for mkfs.vfat else it won't work 21:37 < v1k1ng0> mkfs.vfat -F 32 -S 2048 -n ... :-? 21:37 < DataGhost> yes 21:37 < DataGhost> haha lol @ belgians 21:37 < v1k1ng0> what is the ipodlinux wiki url? 21:37 < DataGhost> they keep discovering millenniumbugs 21:37 < DataGhost> they invited a 102-year old woman to kindergarten 21:37 < DataGhost> to have a look etc 21:38 < DataGhost> the age was stored in only 2 digits :D 21:38 < v1k1ng0> DataGhost: formatting now 21:38 < IamTux> that is great 21:38 -!- kRiMe [n=ichig0@adsl-153-123-98.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:47 < v1k1ng0> what is the url of ipodlinux wiki? 21:47 < IamTux> ipodlinux.org 21:49 < v1k1ng0> url where explains how format the ipod in linux? 21:49 < scox_vincent> hello everybody 21:50 < scox_vincent> IamTux: what is the adress of scapel ? 21:50 < DataGhost> http://tweakers.net/ext/i/1173814807.jpg 21:50 < DataGhost> :D 21:52 -!- d3m0dick [n=ichig0@adsl-144-137-27.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:52 < IamTux> hey scox_vincent 21:52 < IamTux> I will get the address 21:53 < IamTux> http://www.digitalforensicssolutions.com/Scalpel/ 21:53 < DerPapst> v1k1ng0: Go to www.ipodlinux.org -> dowloads -> Apple Updaters > link that explains how to restore an ipod without itunes. 21:53 -!- eggy [n=eggy@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/yorkcc.eggy] has joined #ipodlinux 21:53 < Colt^onLinux> so i tried installing ipodlinux again without the installer for my 80g. Upon loading ipodlinux, i get a repeating set of errors 21:53 < Colt^onLinux> hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady Seekcomplete DataRequest Error } 21:53 < Colt^onLinux> hda: read_intr: status=0x { SectorIDNotFound }, LBAsect=64262, sector=2 21:53 < Colt^onLinux> sometimes this line after those 2: ide0: reset: success 21:53 < DataGhost> you're using the wrong kernel 21:53 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-78-17.cust.iol.ie] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:54 < Colt^onLinux> oh ho 21:54 < DataGhost> 64262 is something it should never read 21:54 < Colt^onLinux> ok 21:54 < Colt^onLinux> i downloaded the latest official 21:54 < Colt^onLinux> i will use the other one 21:54 < DataGhost> odd 21:54 < DataGhost> which date? 21:54 < Colt^onLinux> let me see 21:55 < Colt^onLinux> 2007-03-13-kernel.bin.gz 13-Mar-2007 02:12 721K 21:55 < DataGhost> strange, it should just work 21:55 < DataGhost> sure your partitiontable is correct? 21:55 < DataGhost> and that you have made the actual filesystem? 21:56 < Colt^onLinux> ya, podzilla + userland is all in there 21:56 < v1k1ng0> DerPapst: thank you very much 21:56 < Colt^onLinux> and actually 21:56 < Colt^onLinux> i just remade the partition put all the files there again 21:56 < Colt^onLinux> and same error both times 21:56 < DataGhost> put your partitiontable on pastebin.ca? 21:56 < DataGhost> fdisk -> p -> u -> p 21:56 < Colt^onLinux> sure 21:57 < DataGhost> br right back, candy :) 21:58 < Colt^onLinux> http://pastebin.ca/393866 22:00 < DataGhost> so it's your linux partition... 22:01 < DerPapst> DataGhost: mine read 64262 with the unpatched kernel 22:01 < DataGhost> yeah 22:01 < DataGhost> but the nightly is patched, right? :/ 22:01 < DerPapst> i thought so 22:01 < Colt^onLinux> its loading the other kernel right now... lets see what happens 22:01 < DataGhost> Colt^onLinux http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/exp20070305/kernel-dg-all-iPods-improved-20070305.bin 22:01 < DataGhost> does that make any difference? 22:01 < DerPapst> Colt: thry the kernel linked in the news section of the 5.5G opage 22:02 < DerPapst> or that one above :D 22:02 < DataGhost> I think he's using that right now, right? 22:02 < Colt^onLinux> ok, that one I get the old "No init found." that i had before when I try to use that one. that is this one http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/exp20070305/kernel-dg-all-iPods-improved-20070305.bin 22:02 < DataGhost> you just can't get that error with the patched kernel, or the identity info is wrong 22:03 < DataGhost> ah ok 22:03 < DataGhost> so it's working 22:03 < DataGhost> so... 22:03 < DataGhost> where do the nightlies come from again? 22:03 * DerPapst is pointing DataGhost to the 5.5G page 22:03 < DataGhost> yeah 22:03 < DerPapst> or the Download page 22:03 < DataGhost> but who's compiling them 22:03 < DataGhost> hold on I'm downloading :) 22:03 < Colt^onLinux> the other error was from http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2007-03-13-kernel.bin.gz 22:04 < DerPapst> some random cronjob.... dunno 22:04 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit ["Download IceChat at www.icechat.net"] 22:04 < Colt^onLinux> anyways, i hope someday there will be a fix to this No init found thing :( 22:04 < DataGhost> /home/davidc/ 22:04 < DataGhost> ah! 22:04 < DerPapst> umm.. yeah. fix your userland :P 22:04 < DataGhost> davidc__ is it in any way possible that your nightly builds don't use the current cvs code? 22:04 < Colt^onLinux> howso? 22:05 < Colt^onLinux> DerPapst I put in the one from the wiki... i would love to fix it 22:05 < DerPapst> re-extract the userland and make sure all important files are executable. eg. /etc/rc 22:06 < DataGhost> eg /sbin/init 22:06 < DataGhost> :P 22:06 < Colt^onLinux> just before i loaded it right now i did chmod -R +x ./* 22:06 < Colt^onLinux> in the root of my ext3 partition 22:06 < DerPapst> which should do the trick... 22:06 < DataGhost> do you even have sbin/init? 22:06 < Colt^onLinux> i dunno, lemme check 22:06 < DerPapst> or bin/init 22:06 < DataGhost> it must be sbin/init 22:06 < DataGhost> it's called from sbin :) 22:07 < DerPapst> one of them is a symlink 22:07 < DataGhost> so if he doesn't have sbin/init either the symlink is gone or he doesnt have bin/init 22:07 < Colt^onLinux> mounting it up now, 1 sec 22:08 < Colt^onLinux> no sbin folder 22:08 < DataGhost> gosh. how surprising :) 22:08 < DataGhost> you need more than just podzilla :P 22:08 < DerPapst> lol 22:08 < scox_vincent> IamTux: did you find smething interesting with scapel ? 22:09 < Colt^onLinux> lol 22:09 < IamTux> I thought i did but DataGhost showed me the errors of my ways :P 22:09 < IamTux> *poke DataGhost* 22:09 < DataGhost> well I'm not necessarily saying they're errors 22:09 < Colt^onLinux> ok, i will put podzilla stuff in... 22:09 < DataGhost> but saying that it's very probable that they are 'nothing' 22:09 < Colt^onLinux> bin/init is a link to bin/busybox which does exist 22:10 < scox_vincent> ok 22:10 < DataGhost> what fubar userland did you get then Colt^onLinux? :o 22:10 < IamTux> scalpel said that it found pgp stuff in the file 22:10 < scox_vincent> yep lot of 22:10 < DataGhost> is scalpel opensource? 22:10 < scox_vincent> yes 22:10 < IamTux> yeah 22:10 < DataGhost> because if it just looks for those 2 2-byte signatures without any other constraints 22:10 < DataGhost> then yeah... it'll find about 86 pgp signatures 22:10 < DataGhost> :P 22:10 -!- v1k1ng0 [n=v1k1ng0@251.Red-83-49-11.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:10 < Colt^onLinux> Dataghost, the one from the 5.5 wiki 22:11 < IamTux> but as DataGhost pointed out there are lots of the sigantures in it and it is just looking for raw data and finding a 0x9900 which should be common in a good encryption 22:11 < DataGhost> yeah 22:11 < IamTux> all data patterns should show up about the same # of times right DataGhost 22:11 < DataGhost> as I said, you'll likely see each 2-byte value 97 times 22:11 < DataGhost> give or take 10-15% 22:12 < scox_vincent> Indeed our first work on the encryption show that the result (osos or aupd) are similar to /dev/random 22:13 < DataGhost> oh and eh... are you extracting osos first, or are you working on the entire image? 22:13 < IamTux> cat /dev/random > /dev/sdb1 instant firmware image 22:13 < DataGhost> :) 22:13 < DerPapst> heh 22:13 < IamTux> I like to do that to wipe a harddrive 22:13 < DerPapst> and tried that? maybe you get an even better firmwaer :D 22:13 < IamTux> haha 22:14 < scox_vincent> it could be fun ;) 22:14 < DataGhost> Colt^onLinux how did you 'install' this userland? 22:14 < scox_vincent> the entry device is less random (lot of zeros) 22:15 < Colt^onLinux> tar xvzf //ipod_fs_220606.tar.gz 22:15 < Colt^onLinux> while in the root of my ext3 partition 22:15 < DataGhost> scox_vincent you mean starting from the beginning of the osos image? 22:15 < DataGhost> the first thing (before a piece of 00000000...) is probably a checksum of some sort, if I recall the speculations correctly 22:15 < DataGhost> and the real firmware starts after those nulls 22:16 < DataGhost> Colt^onLinux could you try that again? 22:16 < Colt^onLinux> sure 22:16 < DataGhost> because I get both the sbin symlink and busybox 22:16 < scox_vincent> If your read on the website we put the map of the device (headers and data) 22:16 < Colt^onLinux> hmm thats odd, let me try again 22:17 < Colt^onLinux> interesting... 22:17 < IamTux> DataGhost: what is the apple website that I can download the firmware from again 22:17 < Colt^onLinux> sbin 22:17 < Colt^onLinux> tar: proc: implausibly old time stamp 1903-12-31 16:00:00 22:17 < DataGhost> yes those are normal 22:17 < DataGhost> do you have busybox now? and sbin? 22:18 < Colt^onLinux> but no sbin 22:18 < Colt^onLinux> no 22:18 < DataGhost> http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ IamTux 22:18 < DataGhost> Colt^onLinux any other errors? 22:18 < Colt^onLinux> busybox is there at /bin/busybox 22:18 < DataGhost> md5sum the .tar.gz file? 22:18 < DataGhost> ah ok... and you have bin/init? 22:18 < Colt^onLinux> ya 22:19 < Colt^onLinux> its a link i think 22:19 < DataGhost> yes 22:19 < DataGhost> in the root of your ext3 22:19 < DataGhost> ln -s bin sbin 22:19 < Colt^onLinux> k 22:19 < Colt^onLinux> nothing 22:19 < DataGhost> I didn't say ls 22:19 < DataGhost> so I don't know what you're expecting 22:20 < Colt^onLinux> lol 22:20 < DataGhost> but it shouldn't return anything 22:20 < IamTux> DataGhost, that shows up as only about 20megs... is it compressed of sorts ? 22:20 < DataGhost> eh. it's a zipfile 22:20 < DataGhost> rename the extension 22:20 < DataGhost> uncompressed it's about 23MB 22:20 < Colt^onLinux> ok, sbin is there now i see 22:20 < DataGhost> or 27.. whateve 22:20 < IamTux> ok 22:21 < Colt^onLinux> wait 22:21 < Colt^onLinux> sbin was there before 22:21 < Colt^onLinux> lol 22:21 < DataGhost> ... 22:22 < IamTux> I had to wait till it came down all the way then fileroller told me it was ziped *grin* 22:23 < Colt^onLinux> i think i just read it wrong 22:23 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.238.77] has joined #ipodlinux 22:23 < Colt^onLinux> let me see if i'm still getting the error 22:23 < Colt^onLinux> but do i need more than just the podzilla file for it to start without error? 22:24 < DataGhost> yeah, etc/rc, etc/inittab, various binaries (symlinks), ... 22:24 -!- braeuni [n=Stefan@V9639.v.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:24 < Colt^onLinux> ok, i will put the files in 22:24 < DataGhost> they should be in alrady 22:24 < DataGhost> +e 22:24 < DataGhost> they're all in that userland .tar.gz 22:24 < DataGhost> what's the filesize of that thing? and the md5sum 22:26 < Colt^onLinux> the userland? 22:26 < Colt^onLinux> lemme check 22:26 < DerPapst> yes 22:26 < DerPapst> ok 22:26 < IamTux> scox_vincent what firmware are you working from? 22:27 < Colt^onLinux> 1024 k size and md5sum "1a3312fdce66e02e5cd98c9acf41abda ipod_fs_220606.tar.gz 22:27 < Colt^onLinux> " 22:28 < scox_vincent> 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 22:28 < IamTux> do you know where I can get the 1.1.1? 22:29 < DerPapst> Colt: 1024k sounds a little small 22:29 < Colt^onLinux> DataGhost: yes it does. and I just did ls ./usr/lib and there was nothing there. 22:30 < DataGhost> md5sum is ok 22:30 < DataGhost> size is ok 22:30 < DerPapst> ok 22:30 < DataGhost> podzilla is in a separate tarball 22:30 * DerPapst walks away 22:30 * DerPapst is searching his 'pod 22:31 < Colt^onLinux> shouldn't there be modules in usr/lib/ hehe 22:31 < Colt^onLinux> cuz it appears there is none in that userland 22:33 < DerPapst> modules are in a separate tarball 22:35 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.238.77] has quit [] 22:35 < Colt^onLinux> but i need them to load ipodlinux.. 22:37 < DerPapst> then download them and put them in /usr/lib 22:37 < DerPapst> and you don't need any module to load pz2 22:38 < Colt^onLinux> oh... 22:38 < DerPapst> but then pz2 can't do anything :P 22:38 < Colt^onLinux> then thats not why im getting an error? 22:38 < DerPapst> what error do you get? 22:38 < Colt^onLinux> no init found 22:39 < DerPapst> hmm... odd 22:39 < Colt^onLinux> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Talk:5.5G#no_init_found.3F.3F (screenshots and everything on my post, 3 other people have it too :( 22:40 < Colt^onLinux> and i got ipodlinux to work using the installer, but i'd like regular method of having a linux partition to work 22:41 < Colt^onLinux> my post signed as ColtMoofar 22:43 < DerPapst> hm... 22:44 < Colt^onLinux> could there be something wrong with my init file or something? 22:44 < DerPapst> i really don't understand why it doesn't work. 22:44 < DerPapst> it did for me 22:45 < Colt^onLinux> ya, i've tried getting it to work for a while 22:45 < Colt^onLinux> and you guys keep gettin stumped 22:46 < DerPapst> heh.. try to wipe the ext3 partition clean and then use some gui program to extract the userland to the partition. 22:47 < DerPapst> i don't think that it makes and difference but who knows 22:47 < Colt^onLinux> k, actually I think I tried that and I don't get the same thing. let me try again 22:48 < Colt^onLinux> writing a new filesystem... 22:48 < IamTux> has anyone tried to downgrade the firmware on the ipod to be an older firmware ? 22:49 < IamTux> like go from 1.1.2 to 1.1.1 on the nano2gen ? 22:49 < DerPapst> should be possible 22:49 < DerPapst> with dd 22:50 < DerPapst> at least i don't see why it shouldn't work 22:51 < IamTux> you would have to get the offset correct to where you where you DD it to 22:52 < Colt^onLinux> ok, loading ipodlinux with files copied via gui instaed of command line..... no niit found error 22:53 < IamTux> ok... is the bootloader finding the right patition ? 22:53 < DerPapst> IamTux: you mean the seek part? 22:53 < IamTux> I did that on my linux box once I mean 22:53 < Colt^onLinux> you talking to me IamTux ? 22:53 < IamTux> my boot patition was set to /dev/hda4 which was wrong it was actually /dev/hda6 22:54 < IamTux> and it gave me all kinds of crazy errors 22:54 < Colt^onLinux> you talking to me IamTux ? 22:54 < IamTux> in grub... I dont know what you are using for the booting of the linux cernel 22:54 < DerPapst> Colt: then i don't know what is causing the problem. sorry 22:54 < Colt^onLinux> blah 22:54 < IamTux> kernel even 22:54 < Colt^onLinux> did you look at my screenshot DerPapst? 22:55 < Colt^onLinux> screenshotS i should say 22:56 < DerPapst> do you still get the attemt to access beyond device? 22:56 < DerPapst> errors 22:56 < Colt^onLinux> yes 22:57 < Colt^onLinux> same as the screenshots 22:57 < Colt^onLinux> have you seen them? 22:57 < IamTux> is there a place where you can pass kernel params durring boot ? 22:57 < DerPapst> yes. otherwise i wouldn't know the error message 22:57 < Colt^onLinux> well, my only clue Derpapst and Dataghost is that the Arix installer works, but the wiki does not, so something between the 2 is the key. 22:57 < IamTux> like root=/dev/sda3 22:57 < DerPapst> IamTux getLoader2Args 22:57 < IamTux> because that sounds exactly like what I was describing 22:57 < DataGhost> it's that I made the userland you're using, which works fine for me 22:57 < DerPapst> the kernel has no way to get args 22:58 < IamTux> I did it to me ubuntu box about 2 weeks ago 22:58 < DataGhost> so that means that the userland from the wiki should work fine for you too 22:58 < DataGhost> so you're dong something wrong :P 22:58 < Colt^onLinux> talking me?! man I've loaded it like 5 times now and I'm pretty consistent with the result (except misreading my directory with you earlier) 22:59 < DataGhost> yeah but you probably made an error somewhere and missed that every time 22:59 < Colt^onLinux> pretty consistent, i should say 100% consistent 22:59 < DerPapst> Still.. i think it's odd that it tries to access beyoind the end of device 22:59 < Colt^onLinux> lol 22:59 < DataGhost> you can upload your iPod harddrive to my FTP and I'll examine it :P 22:59 < Colt^onLinux> well, it can't be just me since 3 other people posted the same problem in discussion 22:59 < Colt^onLinux> i can do that :) 22:59 < DerPapst> but they had other problems 23:00 < DerPapst> at least one of them 23:00 < IamTux> _everyone_ 23:00 < DerPapst> nope 23:00 < DerPapst> i was lying 23:00 < Colt^onLinux> i didn't see any other problems they had, except something relating to itunes 23:00 < DerPapst> they all have this problem 23:00 < Colt^onLinux> which was unrelated 23:00 < Colt^onLinux> hehe 23:01 < IamTux> I saw this problem on a running linux box reciently 23:01 < IamTux> the exact problem 23:01 < Colt^onLinux> ok, how should I upload my hd? 23:01 < Colt^onLinux> and? 23:01 < DataGhost> I was joking 23:01 < DataGhost> unless you want to upload 80 GB? 23:01 < DerPapst> dd ;) 23:01 < Colt^onLinux> yes, i would be happy to 23:01 < DataGhost> lol 23:01 < IamTux> the problem was simple to fix 23:01 < DataGhost> on my connection that would take 11 days :P 23:01 < DataGhost> to upload 23:02 < Colt^onLinux> oh, 11 days, thats no problem 23:02 < Colt^onLinux> but really would you need the windows partition? 23:02 < IamTux> chuckle 23:02 < DerPapst> DataGhost: i'm not sure but maybe rohPod could help ;) 23:02 < Colt^onLinux> what was the simple fix IamTux? 23:03 < DataGhost> well eh.... 23:03 < IamTux> on the live linux box I had to edit the grub.conf to reflect the correct partition that the init was located under 23:03 < DataGhost> how about the first 700MB Colt^onLinux 23:03 < Colt^onLinux> sounds good 23:04 < IamTux> if your kernel is looking at the wrong root partition it will panic like that 23:04 < DerPapst> Colt: That is still correct? http://pastebin.ca/386693 23:04 < Colt^onLinux> i think so, lemme double check 23:05 < Colt^onLinux> yes 23:05 < Colt^onLinux> thats corect DerPapst 23:05 < IamTux> I have no idea how to pass the correct root=/dev/foo to the kernel in IPL 23:05 < IamTux> but that is the problem I would be willing to put money on it 23:05 < DataGhost> dd if=/dev/sdd of=harddrivedump.bin bs=1M count=700 23:05 < DerPapst> the kernel is hard coded to boot from hda3 23:05 < DerPapst> so that should be fine 23:05 < DataGhost> after that, I'll tell you where to upload it Colt^onLinux 23:06 < Colt^onLinux> k 23:06 < DerPapst> because hda3 is his linux partition 23:07 < DerPapst> so if he does "mount -w /mnt/ipod /dev/sdd3" he should see the userland 23:07 < DataGhost> IamTux you have to recompile the kernel for that 23:07 < DataGhost> currently 23:07 < IamTux> all I can tell you is that is the _EXACT_ error that i got after I changed to order of my partitions 23:08 < Colt^onLinux> does it matter if a partition is mounted when I do that dd command? 23:08 < DataGhost> as long as you don't change their numbers it'll be fine 23:08 < DataGhost> Colt^onLinux not *REALLY* but umount them anyway 23:08 < DataGhost> they will still be marked dirty 23:08 < DataGhost> and you might still have some unflushed buffers 23:08 < Colt^onLinux> ya 23:08 < IamTux> and it will dd about 30 times slower 23:08 < DataGhost> umount those partitions and run sync 23:09 < DataGhost> then dd 23:09 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX_@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 < DataGhost> IamTux that's nonsense 23:09 < DataGhost> the speed difference is mostly noticable between 'normal' diskmode and 'recovery' diskmode 23:10 < DataGhost> I haven't heard of (or noticed) any speed difference between reading from a mounted and an unmounted partition 23:10 < Colt^onLinux> ok, i've copied the 700 megs 23:10 < DataGhost> by the way 23:11 < DataGhost> this is installed using the wikipage now, right? 23:11 < DataGhost> manually 23:11 < Colt^onLinux> exactly 23:11 < DataGhost> ok 23:11 < DataGhost> I'll pm you the ftp details 23:11 < IamTux> well I am talking about speed differences that i have see doing +10gig moves... and i have seen _very_ noticable differences 23:11 < DataGhost> /dev/hda2 189G 188G 645M 100% / 23:11 < DataGhost> hold on :P 23:11 < Colt^onLinux> completely from scratch, a restore from itunes, and then installed ipl before I even selected "english" 23:12 < DataGhost> and confirmed that it's not working? :P 23:12 < Colt^onLinux> yes. 23:12 < Colt^onLinux> same error as the other tries 23:13 < Colt^onLinux> wiki instructions meticulously followed (although im getting pretty quick at it by now) 23:14 < DataGhost> check your PM by the way 23:14 < Colt^onLinux> pozilla is on there, but theres no modules because none came in your userland or the wiki instructions 23:14 < Colt^onLinux> oh :) 23:15 < DerPapst> Colt: you can run podzilla now? 23:16 < Colt^onLinux> DerPapst iPL doesn't load, i get the no init error. Only when I use the Arix installer will it load to podzilla. 23:16 < DerPapst> ah ok. the misread something. 23:16 < AriX_> userland problem 23:17 < DerPapst> teh AriX 23:17 < DataGhost> we'll find out in approx 700MB 23:17 < DerPapst> hi :) 23:17 < AriX_> ? lol 23:17 < AriX_> hi 23:17 < AriX_> i like having #ipodlinux on my auto-list 23:18 < AriX_> i started using IRC on a daily basis a couple months ago, but I haven't been in here much, and if I have, I'm just lurking 23:18 * AriX_ leaves IRC on 24/7 for transcripts 23:19 < IamTux> ok I feel like an ID10T how are you all doing the red and the * denoting action? 23:20 < DataGhost> using something that wasn't part of the original IRC spec 23:20 < DataGhost> /me 23:23 < DerPapst> my cat is sometimes annoying. She wants to got outside.. and it's 0:30am -.- 23:24 < DataGhost> open window 23:24 < DataGhost> mv cat /dev/outside 23:24 < DataGhost> close window 23:24 < DataGhost> voila:) 23:27 < AriX_> lol nice 23:28 < AriX_> open window 23:28 < AriX_> mkdir cage 23:28 * AriX_ starts over 23:28 < AriX_> open window 23:28 < AriX_> mkdir /cage 23:28 < AriX_> mv cat /cage 23:28 < AriX_> close window 23:29 < AriX_> cat cat :P 23:29 < DerPapst> lets see if my rc hacking works... 23:30 < DerPapst> lol missed the *.bin extension for the kernel an now the laoder complaines ^^ 23:30 < AriX_> :P 23:30 < AriX_> cat /dev/urandom 23:30 < AriX_> :( 23:31 < DerPapst> 2nd try 23:32 < DerPapst> meh 23:32 < AriX_> ??a?[s? 4?????7??tUsA E$mgM^??&?????5x?? ??h??????O?v/?Yv?ßœ??1??E??%?\A?????ߦ?a???Ý­ :P 23:33 * AriX_ tells cat to stop outputting 23:33 * AriX_ is frustrated cause cat won't force quit 23:33 * AriX_ force quits Terminal 23:33 < DerPapst> hahahaha 23:33 < Blast_Hardcheese> What the hell AriX_? 23:33 < AriX_> lol sorry :P 23:33 < Blast_Hardcheese> 's ok, 23:33 < AriX_> im cat /dev/urandom but it wont stop 23:33 < AriX_> lol 23:34 < Blast_Hardcheese> I see. 23:34 < AriX_> using up bout 50% of CPU 23:34 < Blast_Hardcheese> you could dd if=/dev/urandom bs= count=1 23:34 < Blast_Hardcheese> dd is incredibly useful 23:34 < AriX_> ya dd <3 23:34 < DerPapst> hehe 23:34 < AriX_> better than cat >> any day 23:35 < Blast_Hardcheese> Seriously. 23:35 < DerPapst> if i do that the pizeo speaker does a lot of noise ^^ 23:35 < Blast_Hardcheese> dd (args) >> file 23:35 < Blast_Hardcheese> win 23:36 < AriX_> my first C program: http://pastebin.ca/393981 23:36 < AriX_> :P 23:36 < DataGhost> I can tell 23:37 < AriX_> that could be a lot simpler... 23:37 < DataGhost> especially the cute use of (unofficially standardized) caps for constants 23:37 < DataGhost> but not defining them as constants 23:37 < DataGhost> and you'll want to change your coding style 23:38 < DataGhost> but you'll figure that out soon enough 23:38 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: wow 23:38 < AriX_> lol is it that bad? 23:38 < DerPapst> to all the bash script dudes out there: what is wrong with that: if [ "`/bin/getLoader2Args`" == "BLA" ]: then 23:38 < Blast_Hardcheese> Well, just the "MAX" 23:38 < AriX_> yea it should be max 23:38 < AriX_> what's wrong with the "coding style" dataghost? 23:38 < Blast_Hardcheese> Or something much more descriptive 23:39 < DataGhost> I don't need to tell you, you'll figure it out 23:39 < DataGhost> when you get frustrated 23:39 < DataGhost> :P 23:39 < AriX_> lol 23:39 < DataGhost> DerPapst you have a : instead of ; 23:39 < AriX_> why is gets() unsafe? do i need to talk to malloc? http://pastebin.ca/393982 23:39 < DerPapst> ok i have a : there 23:39 < DerPapst> it was a typo in here 23:39 < DerPapst> s/:/; 23:39 < DataGhost> eh 23:39 < DataGhost> wait 23:39 < DataGhost> lol I typed it wrong too 23:39 < DataGhost> I need sleep :) 23:39 < DataGhost> you need a ; instead of : 23:40 < DataGhost> :D 23:40 < DataGhost> but if you already have that; then 23:40 < AriX_> me? or him 23:40 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: A couple things that I can immediately point out to you before you get toooooo far into your career, 23:40 < DerPapst> i have a ; there 23:40 < DerPapst> anything else 23:40 < DerPapst> ? 23:40 < DataGhost> DerPapst which OS did you use to write that file? 23:40 < DerPapst> it seems to complin about == 23:40 -!- HellDragonGh is now known as HellDragon_ 23:40 < DataGhost> oh 23:40 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Get in the habit of saying int main(void)\n{ instead of just int main (void) { 23:40 < DataGhost> yeah that 23:40 < DerPapst> linux 23:40 < AriX_> ok 23:40 < DataGhost> minix-sh doesnt understand == 23:40 < AriX_> lol 23:40 < DataGhost> it needs = 23:40 < AriX_> i do that in PHP 23:40 < DerPapst> so no windows newlinuex 23:40 < DerPapst> oh ok 23:41 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: It's MUCH easier to read, and it's hard to get out of people's heads once they've got it hardwired into their brains 23:41 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Also, you're missing your end-curly :D 23:41 < DataGhost> cc probably told him 23:41 < AriX_> yea, thats there, but i didn't paste correctly 23:41 < DerPapst> AriX: for coding style i recommend the linux kernel :P 23:41 < AriX_> lol 23:42 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Also, indent x number of nested {'s there are 23:42 < DerPapst> DataGhost: i'll try that. Thanks 23:42 < DataGhost> gah Blast_Hardcheese 23:42 < Blast_Hardcheese> DataGhost: :D 23:42 < Blast_Hardcheese> indent = Indent of your choice 23:42 < DataGhost> it's best if he first loses his mind over {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ without indenting 23:42 < DataGhost> :P 23:42 < Blast_Hardcheese> I use single spaces 23:42 < DataGhost> however he should be using functions then 23:42 < Blast_Hardcheese> DataGhost: Oh, you want him to loose his mind over {'s? 23:43 < IamTux> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ 23:43 < DataGhost> 'where did this open!?' :) yeah :P 23:43 < IamTux> advanced bash scripting guide 23:44 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Write, in bash, a perl one-liner to recursively go through your hard drive, find files named the same thing with the same size that's over 1kb, diff them, if they're the same, delete, if they're not, print out the paths to both of them 23:44 < Blast_Hardcheese> ;) 23:44 < AriX_> umm 23:44 < DataGhost> IamTux: http://dataghost.com/divers/digipix/IMG_3800b.jpg 23:44 < AriX_> what lol 23:44 < DataGhost> much better 23:44 < DataGhost> :P 23:44 < DerPapst> IamTux: thanks :D 23:44 < DataGhost> DerPapst minix-sh != bash 23:45 < DataGhost> :P 23:45 < DataGhost> it's got its quirks 23:45 < Blast_Hardcheese> Awesome. 23:45 < Blast_Hardcheese> DataGhost: nice. 23:45 < IamTux> nice 23:45 < DerPapst> DataGhost: yeah i know 23:45 < IamTux> I have that exact perl book 23:45 < DerPapst> i tried to define a function 23:45 < Blast_Hardcheese> As I'm typing up this crash-coarse to Perl, You're taking pictures of your perl book :D 23:45 < DerPapst> result was an syntax error -.- 23:45 < IamTux> my bash book is real world unix 23:45 < IamTux> from the seventies 23:45 < DataGhost> :) well the picture is pretty old 23:46 < Blast_Hardcheese> My perl book is YaBB 23:46 < DataGhost> aug 2005 23:46 < Blast_Hardcheese> my Bash book is real world MacOSx 23:46 < DataGhost> I haven't really read those two by the way 23:46 < DataGhost> I'm basically using them as reference guides 23:46 < IamTux> it has a picture of atlas holding up an old system 5 box 23:46 < Blast_Hardcheese> DataGhost: Who keeps money on their table 23:46 < Blast_Hardcheese> Pssh 23:46 < DataGhost> meh 23:46 < Blast_Hardcheese> Real geeks don't have money. 23:46 < DataGhost> hehe 23:46 < DataGhost> I have to store it *SOMEWHERE* 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> XD 23:47 * DerPapst tries to grab the 15 euros on dataghosts desk 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> under your Bash book 23:47 < AriX_> im a c idiot 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> XD 23:47 < AriX_> i cant figure this out 23:47 < AriX_> :P 23:47 < DataGhost> hehe 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Ask and you shall receive 23:47 < AriX_> although i haven't learned it yet :P 23:47 < AriX_> whats Segmentation fault 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> good times. 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> I'm going to go take a shower 23:47 < Blast_Hardcheese> :D 23:47 < AriX_> :( :P 23:48 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: http://www.google.com/search?q=Segmentation+fault 23:48 * IamTux agrees with Blast 23:48 < DerPapst> Segfault == bad thing ;) 23:48 < AriX_> erm thanks lol 23:48 < Blast_Hardcheese> :D 23:48 < Blast_Hardcheese> It's what I had in my clipboard 23:48 < IamTux> interesting 23:48 < Blast_Hardcheese> Actually it's not, I shouldn't lie. I typed that. 23:48 < AriX_> :P 23:48 < IamTux> a segmentation fault that dumped to the clipboard 23:49 < Blast_Hardcheese> IamTux: Blast_Hardcheese != AriX_ 23:49 * DerPapst tries again 23:49 < IamTux> say yeah yeah 23:49 * IamTux is tired 23:49 < AriX_> lol 23:50 * DerPapst says yeah yeah 23:50 < IamTux> and you can tell that i mud too much 23:50 < IamTux> you all are lucky that I am not prefacing everything with gsay 23:50 < AriX_> ok now what are the problems: http://pastebin.ca/393997 23:50 < AriX_> P.S. It works 23:50 < Blast_Hardcheese> Why are you starting with C? 23:51 < AriX_> starting... 23:51 < AriX_> as in? 23:51 < AriX_> First language? 23:51 < Blast_Hardcheese> start with C++, learn correct C++ practice, apply that to C 23:51 < Blast_Hardcheese> No 23:51 < AriX_> Oh... 23:51 < Blast_Hardcheese> Start with C++, then apply what you've learned in C++ to C. 23:51 < AriX_> Hmm 23:51 < AriX_> why is that easier? 23:51 < Blast_Hardcheese> Because C++ does a LOT of things better, 23:52 < IamTux> learn perl, don't look back 23:52 < AriX_> lol why perl? 23:52 < DerPapst> i wont do it that way 23:52 < Blast_Hardcheese> Perl wins 23:52 < AriX_> perl is like useless 23:52 < AriX_> :P 23:52 < Blast_Hardcheese> ahahaha 23:52 < AriX_> i mean not really 23:52 < Blast_Hardcheese> ahahha 23:52 < DerPapst> i started with pascal -> c 23:52 < Blast_Hardcheese> This is coming from a PHP monkey? 23:52 < AriX_> but i know enough languages that i could probably do most things in other languages that you could do in perl :P 23:52 < AriX_> yes, a PHP "monkey" 23:52 < AriX_> i dunno, i dont know perl 23:53 < AriX_> i know its useful for like getting strings and stuff 23:53 < AriX_> from long things 23:53 < AriX_> and w/ 23:53 < AriX_> e 23:53 < Blast_Hardcheese> I started with TI-Basic -> z80 ASM, which I promptly forgot, -> C++ -> C, -> Java -> Perl -> learning pythong 23:53 < IamTux> yeah I use it mostly for internet based stuff 23:53 < Blast_Hardcheese> s/pythong/python/ 23:53 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: http://www.robodox.org 23:53 < DataGhost> if(AriX_heading != "going away") s/AriX_/A very small shell script/ 23:53 < Blast_Hardcheese> Wait, 23:53 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Ignore that link, 23:54 < Blast_Hardcheese> this is better 23:54 < DerPapst> is there a way to check with minix-sh where a symlink referres to? 23:54 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: http://nightmarecitymod.com 23:54 < DataGhost> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/374d/ 23:54 < AriX_> lol 23:54 < Blast_Hardcheese> AriX_: Aside from the crappy template work on the left, it's entirely dynamic Perl 23:54 < Blast_Hardcheese> Shoutbox, image gallery, etc. 23:55 < Blast_Hardcheese> to create a new gallery, all I have to do is make a new folder and a new thumbnail with the same name, one with a png extension. 23:55 < AriX_> HTML (I know, I know) -> JavaScript -> CSS -> Batch -> Basic -> PHP -> Bash -> AppleScript Studio -> C (Hopefully) 23:55 < Blast_Hardcheese> CSS isn't a programming language... 23:55 < Blast_Hardcheese> o_O 23:56 < AriX_> i know 23:56 < AriX_> neither is HTMLK 23:56 < AriX_> *HTML 23:56 < Blast_Hardcheese> Well it's good that you know both though. 23:56 < DerPapst> DataGhost: i've seen better t-shirts like that "Ich bin /root, ich darf das" --> endl: "I am /root, I'm allowed to do that" 23:56 < DataGhost> :) 23:56 < AriX_> lol 23:56 < AriX_> nice 23:56 < AriX_> i want one :P 23:56 < AriX_> probably none small enough for me 23:56 < DerPapst> hehe 23:56 < Blast_Hardcheese> DerPapst: http://xkcd.com/c149.html on a shirt 23:56 < Blast_Hardcheese> :D 23:57 < DataGhost> http://www.shopcenter-leipzig.de/assets/big/t-shirt-dortmund.gif that's a better 'german' shirt anyway DerPapst :P 23:57 < DerPapst> anyone about my minix-sh nightmare? 23:57 < Blast_Hardcheese> DataGhost: Translation? I don't know much german 23:57 < DataGhost> dortmund is a city in germany 23:57 < DataGhost> dort = there 23:57 < DataGhost> mund = mouth 23:57 < DataGhost> and it's a command 23:57 < DataGhost> so. :P 23:58 < Blast_Hardcheese> XD 23:58 < DerPapst> sudo make me a sandwich hahahaha 23:58 < AriX_> love that lol 23:58 < Blast_Hardcheese> DerPapst: This xkcd guy is a genius, he's an Ex-rocket scientist who draws these comics for fun 23:58 < IamTux> DerPapst where can I see your script 23:58 < DerPapst> on my iPod :D 23:59 < DataGhost> http://fast.dataghost.com/IMG_3210.jpg 23:59 < Blast_Hardcheese> DerPapst: http://xkcd.com/c156.html 23:59 < DataGhost> I have loads of interesting shirts :P 23:59 * IamTux gives DerPapst the bird 23:59 < Blast_Hardcheese> oh crap 23:59 < IamTux> joking joking 23:59 < Blast_Hardcheese> it's 5 23:59 < IamTux> that it is 23:59 < Blast_Hardcheese> I have to be at school by 6 23:59 < IamTux> I need to go home 23:59 < IamTux> thanks for reminding me 23:59 < AriX_> any T-Shirts small enough for a 12 year old? lol 23:59 < IamTux> now my wife wont kill me 23:59 < Blast_Hardcheese> No prob IamTux 23:59 < Blast_Hardcheese> lates --- Log closed Wed Mar 14 00:00:01 2007