--- Log opened Mon Feb 12 00:00:01 2007 00:22 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:39 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:47 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 01:50 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:25 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 03:02 -!- matt_vu [n=Administ@202.80.43.39] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:19 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-40.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:35 -!- josh [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:35 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-67-176-37-44.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:41 -!- caas0r [n=LMX@c-8b1ce655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 03:41 -!- caas_ [n=LMX@c-8b1ce655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:21 -!- Binome [n=n00bmast@S010600138f6a9bd0.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:22 -!- Ice [i=Ice@adsl-75-44-39-0.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:23 < Binome> I have a supposed screwed up 1g mini on me, 4gb, that can get into disk mode, but boots sad ipod even after a restore 04:23 < Binome> got any suggestions 04:36 -!- Triforce [n=triforce@ool-44c19251.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:38 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:53 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:53 < deameyes> has ipodlinux ever thought about making a thin client server for compiling? 04:56 -!- deameyes_ [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:56 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:56 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-66-139-216-117.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:00 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:00 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 05:06 < Binome> I have a supposed screwed up 1g mini on me, 4gb, that can get into disk mode, but boots sad ipod even after a restore 05:08 < deameyes_> did you try hp's restore? 05:11 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-66-139-216-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 05:17 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-40.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:19 -!- deameyes_ [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has quit ["Say What?"] 05:22 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:29 -!- hhehw [i=spike@208.53.170.128] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:42 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:57 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-40.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:57 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 05:59 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 05:59 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 05:59 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [Client Quit] 06:23 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 06:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 07:05 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 07:54 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-40.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:03 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 08:03 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 08:10 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@dupedoo.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:11 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@dupedoo.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:13 < DataGhost> hey leachbj 08:14 < DataGhost> can you tell me what parts of the memory addressing (32M) are defined as constants? 08:14 < DataGhost> So far I've found a value in asm and DRAM_SIZE in .config, but the iPod refuses to boot with 64M 08:14 < DataGhost> and '32' is not a very uncommon string in the kernel :P 08:15 < DataGhost> same for '2000000' 08:19 < DataGhost> but 33554432 is and now it gives me another error :) 08:20 < leachbj> the only other constants are in the include/asm/.../ipod directory and arch/arm-nommu/mach-ipod/arch.c 08:21 < leachbj> can't remember the exact paths offhand but if you just checkout the sf.net linux tree its much smaller than the full linux tree and has all the ipod specific changes 08:22 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:22 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 08:23 -!- Soap_ [n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap] has joined #ipodlinux 08:23 -!- thegeek_ [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 08:26 < DataGhost> hm ok thanks 08:26 -!- Luke [n=Luke@74-132-214-24.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:27 -!- Luke [n=Luke@74-132-214-24.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 08:30 -!- wLLm [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 08:31 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 08:31 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 08:31 -!- w1ll14m [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 08:31 -!- hyarion [i=hyarion@montezuma.acc.umu.se] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 08:31 -!- Soap [n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 08:32 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 -!- w1ll14m [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 -!- Soap [n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 -!- hyarion [i=hyarion@montezuma.acc.umu.se] has joined #ipodlinux 08:37 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 08:38 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:39 -!- w1ll14m [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [No route to host] 08:39 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 08:39 -!- Soap [n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:00 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has joined #ipodlinux 09:16 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 09:29 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:30 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:31 -!- thegeek_ [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:52 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 10:53 -!- hachi [i=hachi@shego.kuiki.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 10:53 -!- hachi [i=hachi@shego.kuiki.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:55 -!- courtc [n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:57 -!- lng [n=lng@mail.papa.net.ua] has joined #iPodLinux 12:02 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FC6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:02 < lng> hello! what PortalPlayer is used in 5th gen ipod? 12:03 < linuxstb> PP5021 - see http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 12:04 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@201-27-2-10.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 12:04 < lng> thanx! 12:05 < lng> i'm off installing linux on mu 30G 5th gen ipod. which installer is better, Windows or Linux? pros and cons? 12:05 < lng> on my** 12:05 < lng> i have dual boot machine 12:09 < linuxstb> I've never used the installers, so don't know. Is your ipod definitely a 5g, and not the newer "5.5g"? 12:09 < lng> yes, it's 5 12:09 < lng> doc says: NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED BY IPODLINUX 12:10 < lng> why not? 12:12 < lng> linuxstb: in the URL you gave me, there's Fifth Generation section that is about 5G iPod. what is the model? 5G? never heard of it... 12:13 < lng> oops G is generation not capacity 12:13 < lng> :) 12:14 < linuxstb> The "NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED" phrase is because the IPL developers don't provide support for anything newer than the 3rd generation ipods. 12:16 < lng> linuxstb: is there any benefit if i use ipodLinux then? 12:16 < linuxstb> Read the website, see what features IPL offers you, and decide if you want them... 12:17 < lng> linuxstb: why they do not support later ipods? 12:17 < linuxstb> You would have to ask them. 12:19 < lng> linuxstb: podzilla or MPD/ 12:19 < lng> ? 12:20 < linuxstb> Sorry, I don't use IPL, so can't answer your questions... 12:26 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:32 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°"] 12:34 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 12:35 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:40 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.39] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:48 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 12:52 -!- rvvs89 [n=rvvs89@203.161.71.242.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:52 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:06 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.39] has joined #iPodLinux 13:18 -!- kfm82_ [n=kfm82@p54BED31E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:27 -!- debonzi is now known as debonzi-study 13:31 -!- kfm82 [n=kfm82@p54BEF29F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:35 -!- rvvs89 [n=rvvs89@203.161.71.242.static.amnet.net.au] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"] 13:41 -!- shay_ [n=shay@p11811120.orange.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 13:41 -!- Triforce [n=triforce@ool-44c19251.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:41 < shay_> /msg iplbot broken 13:41 < shay_> oops, sorry 13:42 < shay_> Hello, I got an old 20G iPod. It won't turn on. When I try to, it justs restarts in an infinite loop (shows the grayscale Apple logo and starts over again) 13:42 < shay_> I can enter in both disk and diagnostics mode. 13:42 -!- shay_ is now known as shayx 13:43 < linuxstb> Does itunes recognise it? 13:44 < shayx> hmm, didn't try 13:44 < shayx> I only have Linux here 13:44 < shayx> should it recognize it even if it can't turn on (in normal iPod usage mode)? 13:44 < linuxstb> If it's in disk mode, it should recognise it. 13:44 < linuxstb> In Linux, can you access the disk when you connect it in disk mode? 13:46 < shayx> let me try to mount it 13:51 < shayx> linuxstb: yes, I am able to mount the seccond partition 13:51 < linuxstb> Do you have acces to itunes? 13:53 < shayx> yeah, there's a computer hear near me with Windows, maybe I can borrow it for some minutes. 13:54 < shayx> linuxstb: is the procedure of what I should do from iTunes documented somewhere? 13:54 < linuxstb> On Apple's website I would guess. 13:54 < linuxstb> But just see if itunes detects it, and if so, select "restore". 13:55 < shayx> linuxstb: will I lose all the data that is on the iPod right now? 14:02 < linuxstb> Yes. 14:03 < shayx> I understand, found the needed documentation, thanks. 14:03 * shayx backs up the data 14:35 -!- debonzi-study is now known as debonzi 14:35 < HardDisk_WP> hi 14:50 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:09 -!- debonzi is now known as debonzi_lunch 15:09 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@174.33.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:41 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:41 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 15:41 -!- caas_ [n=LMX@c-8b1ce655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 15:41 -!- caas0r [n=LMX@c-8b1ce655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:42 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:50 -!- wLLm [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:50 -!- HellDragon_ [i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:50 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:51 -!- HellDragon_ [i=JD@modemcable136.38-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 15:55 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 15:59 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 16:00 -!- wLLm [n=w1ll14m@84-104-81-208.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 16:01 -!- wLLm is now known as w1ll14m 16:07 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-241-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:07 -!- shayx [n=shay@unaffiliated/shay] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:15 -!- lng [n=lng@mail.papa.net.ua] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:19 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.201.28] has joined #ipodlinux 16:21 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:21 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 16:49 -!- megabyte [n=megabyte@aayh118.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:01 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 17:03 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:05 -!- debonzi_lunch is now known as debonzi_study 17:08 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-241-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:21 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 17:23 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 17:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 17:33 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-16-36.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ipodlinux 17:39 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:50 -!- leachbj_ [n=leachbj@dial81-135-148-49.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:07 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:11 -!- trevarthan [n=trevarth@c-71-59-48-26.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:12 < trevarthan> I'm pretty sure I've got a 1Gen ipod nano (black 2gig, square edges rather than rounded as in 2Gen). I see that this version is supported, but without USB or serial support, how am I supposed to get media onto the device? 18:16 < HardDisk_WP> trevarthan, you can boot back to Apple OS 18:16 < HardDisk_WP> trevarthan, boot back to iPod OS, transfer your files, boot to Linux, listen your music 18:16 < trevarthan> that's cool. 18:17 < trevarthan> Thanks! 18:17 < Fossi> if you only want to listen to them in ipl, you can also just transfer them 18:17 -!- trevarthan [n=trevarth@c-71-59-48-26.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:17 < Fossi> ok, bye ;) 18:22 -!- blueworm [n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:25 -!- leachbj_ [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 18:30 -!- f209 [n=f209@pool-71-245-3-79.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 < f209> Hi I'm trying to follow these instructions to wipe a damaged 4g photo ipod http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes 18:30 < f209> however, I'm using SLAX, and know very little about linux 18:30 < f209> when i try to use disktool 18:31 < f209> it doesn't appear its a valid command in my copy of slax 18:32 < f209> also when i try to run fdisk /dev/sdX 18:32 < f209> it says Unable to open 18:32 < BleuLlama> you replace the X with the drive number 18:33 < BleuLlama> and there's no reference to "disktool" on that page 18:34 < f209> ah yea i think i was looking at another page that was going to help me identify my ipod 18:34 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD22D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:35 < f209> my bad sorry BleuLlama, ok so how would i find out what drive number it is 18:35 < DerPapst> hélas :) 18:35 < f209> there is an sda and an sda1 18:35 < f209> in the directory listing for dev 18:36 < DerPapst> type in mount 18:36 < DerPapst> in the terminal 18:36 < DerPapst> then it should list all mounted devices 18:36 < DerPapst> also your ipod 18:36 * BleuLlama tacks on the "unsupported" tag to that article 18:36 < DerPapst> sorry. 18:37 < DerPapst> haven't added it ;) 18:37 < f209> ok i see usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs 18:37 < f209> thats the ipod right? 18:37 < DerPapst> if that is your only usb drive 18:37 < f209> yea ok so how do i unmount it 18:38 < DerPapst> umount /dev/sdXN and n is the number of the drive 18:38 < f209> or is it not mounted , i'm sorry i don't know very much at all about how to do this.. just kinda inherited this damaged ipod 18:38 < DerPapst> err partition 18:39 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:39 < f209> ok so i've typed mount... and see the usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) 18:39 < f209> now i'm trying to figure out what the next step i should take is 18:40 < f209> i'm assuming i need to find the drive number which is what you described.. i guess what i'm missing is how mount should have helped me figure that out 18:42 < DerPapst> if you just type mount that it should print a list with all devices mounted. also there should be your ipod. at least is says for me somewhere ipod for me 18:42 < DerPapst> btw. is your ipod in diskmode 18:42 < DerPapst> ? 18:42 < f209> yes 18:42 < DerPapst> and connected to your pc? 18:42 < f209> yes 18:43 < DerPapst> hmm. wait a sec. 18:43 < f209> so when i do a directory listing in dev 18:43 < f209> i see an sda and sda1 18:43 < DerPapst> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux#Locating_your_iPod 18:48 < f209> ok cool got it 18:48 < f209> backed up fine 18:50 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.201.28] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:50 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@dial81-135-148-49.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 18:50 < f209> question http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes says [*] now enter a value which creats a big enough firmware partition 18:50 < f209> how exactly do i know what a big enough firmware partition is 18:53 < f209> DerPapst how big of a firmware partition should i enter for a 4G photo ipod 20GB 18:54 < f209> wait i think i see 18:54 < f209> its at the bottom of the page 18:54 < f209> nevermind sorry 19:01 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-16-36.cust.iol.ie] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:01 -!- megabyte [n=megabyte@aayh118.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:04 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:05 < DataGhost> hey DerPapst 19:09 -!- debonzi_ [n=debonzi@201-27-2-10.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 19:21 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 19:23 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:23 -!- ReK_`laptop [n=ReK_@128.189.248.159] has joined #ipodlinux 19:24 < f209> i could really use some help i have a 4g photo ipod that appears completed screwed, i've tried deleting the partitions..and restoring the firmware using both itunes and the methods described for doing it without itunes 19:24 < f209> on the ipodlinux wiki 19:25 < f209> can someone tell me is there something else i can try 19:25 < ReK_`laptop> Can someone help me get iDoom running? I've got everything else working fine on my 5g 60gb, but doom gets the no more init, sleeping forever error 19:25 < ReK_`laptop> did you try the hp restore tool f209? 19:25 < f209> well originally i tried formating it using that 19:25 < f209> and it wouldn't 19:26 < f209> so i figured something was screwed in the partition table 19:26 < ReK_`laptop> what was the error it gave? 19:26 < f209> cannot format 19:26 < f209> something generic 19:26 < f209> so i followed these instructions 19:26 < f209> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes 19:26 < f209> which i figured would work...but didn't..then when i plugged it back into a pc with itunes..it said..it needed to be restored, that it was in restore mode 19:26 < f209> so i did that 19:27 < f209> and i still get the folder with the exclamation point 19:27 < ReK_`laptop> there were no errors while you did whats on that wiki page? 19:27 -!- debonzi_study [n=debonzi@201-27-2-10.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:27 < f209> nope 19:27 < f209> none at all 19:27 < f209> appeared to go perfectly 19:28 < ReK_`laptop> what did itunes say after restoring it? 19:28 < f209> to disconnect and hook up to a full power 19:28 < f209> which i did 19:28 < f209> but it still just loops 19:28 < f209> to the file folder 19:28 < linuxstb> f209: Instead of manually creating the partition table, you can just download it from here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 19:28 < f209> and will only enter disk mode 19:28 < linuxstb> You then write it to your ipod with "dd if=mbr-4g-20gb.bin of=/dev/sdX" 19:29 < linuxstb> Then unattach your ipod, then reattach (so the partititon table is read by Linux), and write the firmware file with "dd if=Firmware-X.Y.Z of=/dev/sdX1" 19:29 < f209> i see ok i'll try that now 19:29 < f209> so at this stage you believe thats what i should try... i should not do any other wipe 19:30 < linuxstb> Then format /dev/sdX2 with "mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdX2" 19:30 < f209> ok i'll do that now 19:31 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit ["bbl"] 19:32 < f209> i'm assuming the firmware for the 20GB 4G ipod, will work for the ipod photo 19:32 < f209> 4g 20gb 19:33 < linuxstb> No. 19:33 < BleuLlama> if it's the color 4g, then yeah. if it's the mono 4g, then NO 19:34 < f209> yup thanks 19:38 < ReK_`laptop> does anyone have iDoom running form iPodLoader 2.x? 19:43 < f209> lunuxstb when i tried to format the sda2 partition 19:43 < f209> it said it didn't exist 19:44 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:46 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 19:48 < linuxstb> f209: Did you unconnect and then reattach your ipod? 19:48 -!- fxb_ [n=felixbru@p548FC6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:49 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FC6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:49 -!- fxb_ is now known as fxb 19:49 < f209> yrd 19:49 < f209> yes 19:49 < f209> i was able to do the sda1 partition 19:51 < f209> i was able to write the firmware to sda1 19:51 < f209> after i reconnected it 19:51 < f209> but still i have no sda2 19:51 < ReK_`laptop> could be bad sectors? 19:52 < f209> great bad sectors in the partition table? 19:52 < f209> is there anything else i can do 19:52 < ReK_`laptop> just throwing the idea out. i honestly know nothing about ipod hardware 19:52 < DataGhost> partition table = 1 sector 19:53 < linuxstb> f209: What does fdisk say? Maybe the partition table is wrong... 19:53 < ReK_`laptop> i gotta get to class, good luck man 19:53 -!- ReK_`laptop [n=ReK_@128.189.248.159] has quit ["lolquit"] 19:53 < f209> the only thing i don't see is your instructions for restoring the firmware didn't include the seek=63 19:54 < f209> would that have made any difference 19:54 < DataGhost> of=sda1 seek=0 19:54 < DataGhost> of=sda seek=63 19:54 < DataGhost> same thing 19:54 < DataGhost> of=sda1 seek=63 <-- no-go 19:54 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 19:54 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:54 < f209> i didn't have seek at all 19:55 < f209> would that do it? 19:55 < DataGhost> and you wrote to sda? 19:55 < DataGhost> or sda1? 19:55 < f209> i did dd if=mbr-4g-20gb.bin of=/dev/sda 19:55 < f209> unplugged 19:55 < f209> plugged back in 19:55 < DataGhost> why'd y 19:55 < DataGhost> oh wait you don't have blockdev 19:55 < DataGhost> yes ok 19:55 < f209> dd if=Firmware-X.Y.Z of=/dev/sda1 19:56 < DataGhost> that should be allright 19:56 < DataGhost> and how is there no sda2? 19:56 < DataGhost> or does it just not contain a valid filesystem yet? 19:56 < linuxstb> What does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" display? (post it to http://www.pastebin.ca/ not here....) 19:57 < DataGhost> or #ipodlinux.flood :P 19:57 < linuxstb> Yes, but tell me first if you're pasting there... 19:57 < f209> does not contain a valid partition table 19:57 < blueworm> dd if=mbr of=/dev/sda count=1 19:58 < DataGhost> and you are 100% sure that you did of=/dev/sda1 and not of=/dev/sda for the firmware? 19:58 < DataGhost> blueworm he did that 19:58 < f209> yes i'm sure 19:58 < f209> i didn't do what worm said 19:58 < f209> i never was told to do that 19:58 < DataGhost> f209 do dd if=/dev/sda of=dgmbr.bin bs=512 count=1 and upload that file somewhere (or dcc it?) 19:58 < linuxstb> Try it again, and this time check the partition table with fdisk before continuing to write the firmware partition. 19:59 < f209> wow wait ok lets do this one thing at a time 19:59 < f209> i'll try what linuxstb said to do first 19:59 -!- ttt [n=tl@87.69.34.244.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 19:59 < DataGhost> well 19:59 < blueworm> DataGhost. the red ink is rude. How you do that? ;) 19:59 < DataGhost> if you do that it's pretty useless 19:59 -!- ttt is now known as thc 19:59 < f209> ok dataghost then i'll do what you asked 19:59 < f209> i'll create that file 20:00 < DataGhost> blueworm I didn't do anything... and ink? you mean that I typed your nickname so the line turns red 20:00 < DataGhost> to indicate that someone is talking to you 20:00 < DataGhost> f209 ok thanks 20:00 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cblmdm72-241-107-50.buckeyecom.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20:00 < linuxstb> DataGhost: Why useless? 20:00 < DataGhost> because I have the feeling that you wrote something else over your mbr 20:00 < blueworm> must be a xchat thing 20:00 < DataGhost> well if he accidentally put his firmware over his MBR... and if you tell him to restore it and THEN dump it 20:00 < DataGhost> it's useless because I'll already know what's on 20:01 < thc> when i click on a package and it says - the pack u selected is "libstdcxx" has a depenci on "pthreadstubs" which i was not able to satisfy. sorry u cant select this 20:01 < linuxstb> I was suggesting that he forgets everything he's done so far, does the first step again (writing a known good mbr to the disk), and then verifying that step with fdisk. 20:02 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:02 < thc> im using installer 2.3 and ipod 3g 20:02 < DataGhost> thc do you know what libstdcxx does? 20:02 < thc> ya adds c++ 20:03 < thc> it happens with some more packs 20:03 < DataGhost> do you need it? 20:04 < thc> well i tought i might try some stuff on it, but is there a way to fix this? [it happens with some other packs aswell such as exuses pack which seems also nice] 20:04 < DataGhost> well, if you want it then I don't know 20:04 < DataGhost> I've never used the installer 20:04 < thc> so what other way is there? 20:05 < DataGhost> manual install 20:05 < f209> getting that file to you now 20:05 < DataGhost> ok 20:05 < thc> how do i do manual? 20:05 < DataGhost> by reading the wiki 20:05 < thc> k going to do that now :) 20:08 -!- thc [n=tl@87.69.34.244.cable.012.net.il] has quit [] 20:09 < f209> DataGhost trying to dcc it 20:09 < DataGhost> you can't when you're not registered 20:10 < f209> oh damn ok i'll upload it somewhere for you 20:10 < DataGhost> ok 20:10 < f209> http://www.integraltechnology.net/dgmbr.bin 20:11 < DataGhost> that does indeed not look valid _AT ALL_ 20:11 < DataGhost> it's not even the apple firmware 20:11 < DataGhost> and you are sure that you've put the mbr on /dev/sda and not on /dev/sda1? 20:12 < linuxstb> f209: Just try writing it again, and see what happens... 20:13 < DataGhost> 90 6c ec 00 00 .. .. 00 20:13 < DataGhost> not even 55 aa 20:13 < f209> yes 20:13 < f209> i'll do it again 20:14 < DataGhost> eh 20:14 < DataGhost> how did you unplug your iPod by the way? 20:14 < f209> i just pulled it out 20:14 < DataGhost> dd -> unplug cable -> plug cable -> continue ? 20:14 < DataGhost> ah. 20:14 < f209> yes 20:14 < DataGhost> after dd, execute 'sync' and then 'eject /dev/sda' 20:14 < DataGhost> then pull the cable when it says 'ok to disconnect' 20:14 < DataGhost> and go to diskmode again 20:14 < f209> ok i'll do that this time 20:14 < f209> doing it now 20:14 < DataGhost> OR... do 'blockdev --rereadpt' if you have blockdev 20:15 < DataGhost> so you won't have to unplug your iPod 20:15 < f209> well you choose 20:15 < f209> what do you want me to do 20:15 < f209> i just wrote the partition table 20:16 < DataGhost> preferably blockdev, if you have it 20:16 < DataGhost> if you don't have blockdev you can try reading it with fdisk, though 20:16 < DataGhost> then you'll immediately see (with p) if it worked 20:16 < DataGhost> and if it did, do w instead of q 20:16 < DataGhost> so it'll just write the same thing (doesn't matter) and reread the partitiontable (what you need) 20:17 < DataGhost> then you should have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 20:17 < f209> i tried the blockdev 20:17 < f209> it gives me the usuage 20:17 < f209> like there is some problem with my syntax 20:17 < DataGhost> hm, yes there is 20:17 < f209> blockdev --rereadpt 20:17 < DataGhost> you have to specify /dev/sda too 20:17 < f209> ok i've done that 20:18 < f209> now should i look at it with fdisk 20:18 < DataGhost> yes 20:18 < f209> no valid partition table 20:18 < DataGhost> ... 20:18 < DataGhost> what is the exact dd command you used? 20:18 < f209> i did this 20:18 < f209> dd if=mbr-4g-20gb.bin of=/dev/sda 20:20 < DataGhost> ok 20:20 < DataGhost> execute 'md5sum mbr-4g-20gb.bin' 20:21 < f209> k 20:22 < f209> c463856ba51dcbc365973478f7653bf8 20:22 < DataGhost> that looks allright 20:22 < DataGhost> strange... 20:23 < f209> this ipod is F'ed up 20:23 < DataGhost> dd if=mbr-4g-20gb.bin of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 && sync && dd if=/dev/sda of=dg2mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && md5sum dg2mbr.bin 20:23 < DataGhost> and tell me what md5sum gives as output (the last line) 20:24 < DataGhost> that line I just typed is '1 command' 20:24 < f209> ok when you say sync 20:24 < f209> am i doing the eject 20:24 < DataGhost> no 20:24 < f209> and disconnecting 20:24 < f209> ok 20:24 < f209> just sync 20:24 < DataGhost> just copypaste that line into your terminal and it'll give you md5sum output 20:25 < f209> its a totaally different md5 20:26 < DataGhost> so it doesn't write it to your iPod 20:26 < f209> e3f21926ea2d14c1d2571807679d7bdc 20:26 < DataGhost> e3f21926ea2d14c1d2571807679d7bdc dgmbr.bin 20:26 < DataGhost> coincidence 20:26 < DataGhost> *cough* 20:26 < DataGhost> eehm.... 20:26 < DataGhost> do you see any errors in the last few lines of 'dmesg' ? 20:26 < f209> ok so its not writing anything, thats probobally why itunes can't seem to restore it either 20:26 < f209> the last few lines of what? 20:27 < DataGhost> dmesg 20:27 < f209> Buffer I/o error on device sda 20:27 < f209> logical block 0 20:27 < f209> lost page write due to I/O error on sda 20:27 < DataGhost> that's harsh 20:28 < DataGhost> unplug your iPod, reboot it and as soon as you see it rebooting (or when you see the apple, whatever), press and hold previous + middle 20:28 < DataGhost> until you see the apple reverse 20:28 < f209> ok diagnostics mode 20:28 < f209> do i need to do the eject 20:28 < DataGhost> you're familiar with that.. ok 20:28 < DataGhost> no 20:28 < f209> or just screw it 20:28 < DataGhost> go to hdd scan and run it 20:28 < DataGhost> leave the power attached, by the way 20:28 < DataGhost> no need to unplug 20:29 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cblmdm72-241-107-50.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:30 < f209> it just sits on start scan ... 20:30 < DataGhost> maybe you need to press a key again 20:30 < DataGhost> and after that it might take a while 20:30 < DataGhost> from 1 to 60 minutes I guess 20:30 < f209> i pressed a key nothing appears to be happening i'll listen to it 20:31 < f209> sounds like its doing something 20:31 < DataGhost> I just tried it 20:31 < DataGhost> when it says Start . . . it's actually busy 20:31 < f209> will this do any sort of repair or simply scan the drive for bad sectors 20:31 < DataGhost> just scan 20:32 < DataGhost> it'll probably tell you something is wrong 20:32 * DerPapst <-- back 20:32 < DataGhost> since you can't write sector 0 you're quite screwed unless there's something with your cable / pc 20:32 < DataGhost> whatever is in your current MBR isn't even remotely valid for anything 20:32 < BleuLlama> or just bring it to an apple store 20:32 < f209> yea doubt its the cable 20:33 < f209> tried a few cables 20:33 < DataGhost> well then it's either your pc or (most likely) your iPod HD 20:33 < f209> when i looked at the retracts in the smart data it was like 60 or something 20:33 < BleuLlama> what model ipod is it? 20:33 < f209> on my own ipod video 20:33 < f209> thats only 1 20:33 < f209> ipod photo 4g 20:33 < f209> 20gb 20:33 < BleuLlama> aah. yeah. 4th gen 20gb. does it make any weird noises? 20:33 < f209> doesn't appear to 20:34 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 20:34 < BleuLlama> i've heard of lots of issues with the 20gb disks 20:34 < DataGhost> I've got a 20GB 4G with a perfectly healthy disk \o/ 20:34 < f209> so its pretty much f'ed 20:35 < DataGhost> as long as you can't write to sector 0 you "can't put anything on it" 20:35 < f209> the weird thing is..it was working fine..until my friend decided to pull it when he was undocked 20:35 < BleuLlama> i suggest bringing it to an apple store. if anyone can get it working, they can 20:35 < f209> i mean pull the plug 20:35 < f209> while it was syncing rather 20:36 < DataGhost> since the drive is 'not writable' anyway, try to write that mbr with seek=63, seek=500 and seek=1000 20:36 -!- debonzi_ [n=debonzi@201-27-2-10.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:36 < DataGhost> see if that also gives errors in dmesg 20:36 < f209> dataghost why do you say since it isn't writeable 20:36 < f209> would that fuck it 20:36 < f209> if it was 20:37 -!- decayedcell_ [n=decayed_@ppp69-55.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 < DataGhost> if he pulled the plug when it was syncing, your filesystem may have been damaged... if you then restored your iPod and it overwrote your MBR with garbage (since it's 'not writable') that would have been the final blow, yes 20:37 < DataGhost> and no that wouldn't do anything bad with it 20:37 < DataGhost> it would only corrupt the data that is (not) on that drive 20:37 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD22D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:37 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD22D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 < f209> well the thing i don't understand is..how could the drive be not writeable 20:38 < f209> from what your saying 20:38 < DataGhost> it's in quotes.. because it errors 20:38 < f209> it sounds like this is a good drive 20:38 < f209> but it can't be written to 20:38 < f209> for some reason 20:38 < DataGhost> I/O error -> usually not a good drive 20:38 < f209> ok so your saying you believe this has hardware problems 20:38 < DataGhost> yes 20:38 < f209> ok...one thing... it did seem to recognize quite slow 20:38 < DataGhost> and maybe you can still write to other sectors, which would explain that working perfectly untily ou restored it 20:38 < f209> when it was working 20:39 < DataGhost> that's probably because it attempts to read the MBR... and if that area was damaged already that would take longer 20:39 < DerPapst> maybe you can edit the mbr with rofpod 20:39 < DataGhost> or with any other part of your disk 20:39 < DerPapst> *rohpod 20:39 < DataGhost> nah DerPapst 20:39 < DataGhost> dd doesn't even write anything 20:39 < DerPapst> ok ;) 20:39 < DataGhost> well, it does... but the iPod doesn't :) 20:39 < DataGhost> throws an I/O error in dmesg and after reading it, nothing has changed (even after sync) 20:40 < f209> is there any way to fully powerdown an ipod 20:40 < DataGhost> but it should reallocate sector 0, afaik... or it's run out of reallocation sectors 20:40 < linuxstb> DerPapst: I corrected some URLs on the 5.5g wiki page today - the source has moved within SVN, and the Mac OS X version is now distributed as a .dmg file. 20:40 < DataGhost> yes, disconnect the battery 20:40 < f209> could something possibly be being held in the sdram 20:40 < f209> or ram 20:40 < linuxstb> DerPapst: Also, do you know that the [device] parameter is now optional? 20:41 < f209> or whatever memory it uses 20:41 < DataGhost> possibly 20:41 < linuxstb> DerPapst: (sorry, talking about ipodpatcher, obviously....) 20:41 < DataGhost> after a deep sleep it should be gone 20:41 < DataGhost> but you can't deep-sleep the 4G from diagmode afaik... so you have to unplug the battery (or wait 3 days) 20:41 < f209> hmmm i see so after 3 days of non-use 20:41 < f209> it will go to deep sleep 20:42 < DataGhost> it does hold data in SDRAM, at least my 5.5G does 20:42 < DataGhost> yes 20:42 < DataGhost> 3 days or 36 hours, I don't recall which :) 20:42 -!- decayedcell_ [n=decayed_@ppp69-55.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:42 < DataGhost> something with 3 and longer than 1 day 20:42 < f209> well i'm talking out of my ass, i was just thinking it could be holding something in memory 20:42 < f209> thats screwed it up 20:42 < DataGhost> *could* but that would mean that the firmware is unbelievably crappy 20:42 < f209> i believe it had the latest firmware 20:42 < f209> 1.21.1 20:42 < DataGhost> that would mean it's reading from uninitialized memory 20:42 < BleuLlama> that's extremely unlikely 20:43 < f209> ok so basically this ipod is fucked 20:43 < DataGhost> I did that semi-onpurpose so I know that it keeps the SDRAM contents.. but it won't read from it, i'm 99,999% sure of that 20:43 < f209> i'm telling my friend that.. screw all this nonsense its his own fault 20:43 < BleuLlama> f209: i'll say it for the third time; bring it to an apple store, they will most likely be able to fix it 20:43 < f209> i see ok bluellama i'll have to try 20:44 < DerPapst> linuxstb: yes. i've seen it. 20:46 < DerPapst> linuxstb: but to use fdisk they need the device number at least. so i better keep it. but i can add a note to the "locate the ipod with ipodpatcher" section that [device] is optional for ipodpatcher. 20:50 < DataGhost> by the way, the 5.5G will go into deep sleep much sooner.. does anyone know the exact time in hours? 20:50 -!- blueworm [n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:50 < DataGhost> because I guess that's when it'll write the settings to the disk 20:50 < DataGhost> so I can finally use iPL again 20:50 < BleuLlama> seems like 18-24 hours to me. 20:51 < DerPapst> about 24 hours 20:51 < DerPapst> +/- 2h ;) 20:51 < DataGhost> grr 20:51 < DataGhost> that'll be tomorrow morning :( 20:51 < DerPapst> why can't you use iPL? 20:51 < DataGhost> well, I can 20:51 < DataGhost> but I want it to remember my settings, first 20:52 < DataGhost> that's also why 'linux' or 'loader2' 'deletes' the settings 20:52 < DataGhost> they are never written 20:52 < DerPapst> ah. ok 20:52 < DataGhost> at least... not until it enters deep sleep, afaik. 20:52 < DataGhost> that would be the only option 20:52 < BleuLlama> oh. appleos settings? 20:52 < DataGhost> since I did see it save something right after the first boot, plugging it into my pc 20:52 < DataGhost> yes 20:52 < DataGhost> I modified my partitioning scheme now to have a smaller fat32 partition 20:52 < BleuLlama> neat. i didn't know the reasons behind it not saving settings 20:52 < DataGhost> didn't backup iPod_Control 20:53 < BleuLlama> er.. not reasons, conditions 20:53 < DataGhost> well... it's just a guess :) 20:53 < BleuLlama> i'll buy it. ;) 20:53 < DataGhost> I listened to the drive after booting the ipod... silent 20:53 < DataGhost> changed settings... still silent 20:53 < DataGhost> rebooted... still silent until it rebooted :P 20:53 < BleuLlama> it probably just waits for any disk activity before it syncs 20:53 < DataGhost> no 20:53 < DataGhost> I played music, watched videos, synced with iTunes 20:54 < BleuLlama> weird 20:54 < DataGhost> it should just write the settings more often IMO 20:54 < BleuLlama> okay. my bad 20:54 < DataGhost> but with normal usage this is not a problem 20:54 < BleuLlama> why should it? with normal usa... yeah 20:54 < BleuLlama> heh 20:54 < DataGhost> because normally the iPod isn't rebooted, it just enters deep sleep and then saves the settings 20:54 < DataGhost> else they'll stay in memory :) 20:54 < BleuLlama> yep yep yep 20:54 < DataGhost> and I can't boot it to diagnostic mode and make it sleepforever :P 20:54 < BleuLlama> yeah. 20:55 < f209> hey dataghost 20:55 < f209> it passed 20:55 < f209> the test 20:55 < DataGhost> ok, that gives you no information at all 20:55 < DataGhost> only when you get errors you can be sure that the drive is broken 20:56 < f209> HDD R/W FAIL 20:56 < DataGhost> you can't ever be sure that the drive is 100% ok 20:56 < DataGhost> ah there we go 20:56 < f209> when i run the HD RW test 20:56 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 20:56 < DataGhost> HDD SCAN = readonly 20:56 < DataGhost> so writes just fail for you disk 20:56 < DataGhost> +r 20:56 < DataGhost> so now you know that it's broken... finally some useful information 20:56 < DataGhost> good luck at the apple store :) 20:57 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:57 < DataGhost> and I wouldn't blame your friend, give the apparent reputation of the 4G 20GB iPods 20:57 < DataGhost> I highly doubt that unplugging a USB cable would physically damage a drive('s writing capabilities) 20:57 < f209> thanks 20:57 < f209> cool thanks 20:58 < DataGhost> I don't think Apple would ever want something like that to be able to happen 20:59 < DataGhost> if it did damage the drive, there would have been a huge, big, fat warning (seal that you'll have to break before opening the box), saying that you can NEVER EVER remove the cable (death penalty) when it says 'do not disconnect' 20:59 < DataGhost> or they'd have lawsuits all over the world (or huge warranty costs) 21:00 -!- ttt [n=tl@87.69.34.244.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 -!- ttt is now known as thc 21:00 -!- thc [n=tl@87.69.34.244.cable.012.net.il] has quit [Client Quit] 21:02 -!- Noic3 [i=Noic3@h-199-136.A146.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 -!- ReK_`laptop [n=ReK_@128.189.248.159] has joined #ipodlinux 21:05 < DataGhost> hm BleuLlama 21:05 < BleuLlama> hm DataGhost 21:05 < DataGhost> according to the 'faq for stupid people' (:P) the NANO should save it when sleeping with holding play 21:06 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:06 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 21:06 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:06 < DataGhost> my 4G doesn't, anyway... but for the nano that can be used apparently 21:06 * BleuLlama shrugs 21:06 < BleuLlama> i know power mgmt is different on 'e, all. 21:06 < BleuLlama> like you mentioned earlier. 5g/nano sleep sooner than older ipods 21:06 < DataGhost> yeah 21:07 < BleuLlama> then there's the 1st gen... which never really deep sleeps... so after a couple of days, the battery is drained. :( 21:07 < DataGhost> hehe 21:07 * BleuLlama <3 his first gen 21:08 < BleuLlama> although the screen on the 1g sucks rocks. 21:09 * BleuLlama likes his 4th gen for the screen on it. :) 21:09 < DerPapst> the good ol' contrast problem :D 21:10 < BleuLlama> hmm? 21:10 < DataGhost> :) 21:10 < DataGhost> I just wish the 4G screen were a little bigger, so I could read all text in pokemon and other GB games :P 21:10 < BleuLlama> the first gen is unreadble in sunlight. the 4th gen has a nice blue hue to it... purty 21:10 < BleuLlama> heh 21:11 < DerPapst> high tempratore: very strong contrast; low temperature: nearly blank display 21:11 < BleuLlama> yeah 21:11 < DataGhost> I think that's just related to the technology used 21:11 < DataGhost> my speedometer on my bike does the same 21:11 < DataGhost> but it has to be way below zero, by the way 21:11 < DataGhost> just below and around zero the display just lags a bit 21:12 < BleuLlama> passive LCD updates slower as it gets colder, since the "liquid" reacts to the temp. 21:12 < BleuLlama> my car stereo does that too 21:12 < DataGhost> I never notice that 21:12 < DataGhost> but the cars I drive burn so much fuel that I can heat anything in about 2 seconds :) 21:13 < DataGhost> 1:8 and 1:5 liters:km 21:13 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cblmdm72-241-107-50.buckeyecom.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 21:15 < BleuLlama> where are you located, DataGhost? 21:15 < DataGhost> NL 21:15 < BleuLlama> Netherlands? 21:15 < DataGhost> yes 21:15 < BleuLlama> nice. :) 21:15 < DataGhost> hehe 21:18 -!- f209 [n=f209@pool-71-245-3-79.scr.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 21:19 -!- sid77 [n=sid77@82.84.65.135] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:21 < ReK_`laptop> can someone help me set up iDoom? I'm getting the wad files not found, sleeping forever error 21:22 < DataGhost> you've been asking that for the past 2 hours and you haven't found a solution yet?! 21:24 < BleuLlama> i just did a quick google search and i have a page of links 21:24 < ReK_`laptop> yeah, i found all those too 21:25 < ReK_`laptop> and i was in class for the past hour 21:25 < BleuLlama> start clicking! 21:25 < ReK_`laptop> none helped. im trying to launch it from iPodLauncher 2 21:26 < ReK_`laptop> those are all for iLaunch or extlaunch, which wont work cause i have a 5g with the 1.2 firmware 21:26 < BleuLlama> i've never heard of ipodlauncher 2 21:26 < ReK_`laptop> the bootloader thats defaault with the ipl installer 21:26 < BleuLlama> can't help you. sorry. 21:27 < BleuLlama> that's not ipodlauncher2 21:27 < ReK_`laptop> yeah, just reread the screen, ipl loader 2.4 21:27 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-66-139-216-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 < ReK_`laptop> when i use the wad game package that loads through doom.bin i get a check permissions error, but no filename 21:28 -!- sid77 [n=sid77@82.84.65.135] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 < BleuLlama> post to the forums or ask the creators of idoom. 21:29 < BleuLlama> if you can't figure it out from the documentation yourself. 21:33 -!- Soap_ is now known as Soap 21:34 < DataGhost> I'd better get back to iPL [s]guessing[/s]coding 21:35 < DataGhost> hm 21:36 < DataGhost> and I'd better back up my modified kernel from shm :D 21:39 -!- amiconn_ [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 21:41 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:41 -!- amiconn_ is now known as amiconn 21:43 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cblmdm72-241-107-50.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:44 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cblmdm72-241-107-50.buckeyecom.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:47 -!- ReK_`laptop [n=ReK_@128.189.248.159] has quit ["lolquit"] 22:05 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:05 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 22:27 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 22:35 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:37 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FC6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:48 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FC6A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 22:54 -!- ildella [n=della@81-208-60-201.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 -!- kfm82_ is now known as kfm82 23:01 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:02 -!- Ainslee [n=chatzill@serenity.ainsleehooper.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:10 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:10 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:12 -!- ildella [n=della@81-208-60-201.ip.fastwebnet.it] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:19 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:19 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:22 < DerPapst> seems that someone was bored: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Category:Pages_to_be_Deleted 23:23 -!- Ainslee [n=chatzill@serenity.ainsleehooper.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]"] 23:29 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:33 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:33 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 23:37 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:38 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:38 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:40 < fxb> DerPapst: :) 23:42 < fxb> davidc__: ping. 23:42 -!- syamajala3 [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 < DerPapst> hi fxb :D 23:43 < DerPapst> passed you exams? 23:44 < fxb> 2 of 3 23:44 < fxb> geography on wednesday 23:44 < DerPapst> went fine so far? 23:44 < fxb> yeah 23:45 < DerPapst> good :) 23:45 < fxb> i should go to bed soon :D 23:46 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@c-71-56-231-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:46 < DerPapst> yeah me too 23:46 < fxb> :S now he left. 23:46 < DerPapst> have to get up 8:30 am XD 23:47 < fxb> :P i think i'll get up at about 11:00 23:47 < DerPapst> hehe 23:48 < DerPapst> ok then.. good night :) 23:49 < fxb> :) 23:49 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD22D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] --- Log closed Tue Feb 13 00:00:00 2007