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00:19 < rshortt> truf: what podzilla are you using?
00:19 < rshortt> truf: I am using a 4G nano as well
00:19 < rshortt> (not the new one)
00:20 < rshortt> with original PZ you don't need MPD
00:20 < rshortt> I use gnupod to add music
00:20 < BleuLlama> use pz2 with the mpd module 
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00:21 < frut> back
00:21 < frut> well
00:22 < frut> i have some problems now :s
00:22 < frut> podzilla is loading 
00:22 < frut> evreything is ok except a depency bug for a game 
00:23 < fxb> error message?
00:23 < frut> but i can't see it when i connect it 
00:23 < frut> no missing something
00:23 < frut> i click ok 
00:23 < frut> & all is loading
00:24 < frut> ( i see extra seetings & power menu)
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00:26 < DerPapst> bye bye
00:26 < DerPapst> :P
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00:33 < thurf> back again ::
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00:34 < thurf> i can't see my ipod when i connect it
00:35 < BleuLlama> you booted the ipod to Appleos or Disk Mode?
00:35 < thurf> disk mode 
00:35 < thurf> it asked me when i connected it
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00:53 < PowaUser5875106> damn connection :/
00:53 < rshortt> I tried PZ2 build with mpd but got out of memory error
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00:57 < thurf> so 
00:57 < thurf> anyone can help me ? 
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01:26 < thurf> hi 
01:26 < thurf> ?
01:26 < thurf> anyone ?
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02:06 < DerPapst> server is down
02:07 < DerPapst> fxb (if still awake), courtc, BleuLlama
02:09 < courtc> hrm.. i started it back up not too long ago.
02:10 < DerPapst> heh.. the server doesn't like us :)
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02:12 < thurf> broken
02:13 < courtc> fixed
02:13 < DerPapst> thanks courtc :)
02:13 < courtc> :)
02:36 < DerPapst> heh... apache crashed again -.-
02:37 < DerPapst> oh no
02:37 < DerPapst> it just loaded ages
02:37 < DerPapst> nvm :)
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06:11 < DryLoop> hello, oh man i need some help
06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> Ask your question, and stay in here for a day at least.
06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> It'll probably get answered.
06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> As for myself, I'm going to bed.
06:33 < DryLoop> ok
06:33 < DryLoop> night
06:37 < DryLoop> ooh
06:38 < DryLoop> i thank you for having such a wonderful help page, i have reset my ipod and it now lives once again! - back from the grave. you guys rock!!
06:38 < DerPapst_> thanks :)
06:39 < BHSPitMonkey> Glad I could help.
06:40 < DerPapst_> i thought you are sleeping already :P
06:41 < BHSPitMonkey> Meh, I take a while to get from here to bed.
06:41 < DerPapst_> heh ;)
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07:08 < DryLoop> so how do i play movies on my ipod nano ;D
07:24 < DryLoop> ;>
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08:28 < pengo2> hie everyone
08:29 < pengo2> i am working from 8 hours to set up video player to my ipod nano(with linux)
08:29 < pengo2> but i couldnt plz help me
08:31 < pengo2> this is very important for me if someone know a way plz tell me
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16:57 < kick52> calamari: hey!
16:57 < calamari> hi kick52
16:57 < kick52> how is it?
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19:32 < HardDisk_WP> hi
19:33 < GodEater> evning
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19:37  * GodEater pokes at DataGhost with a stick
19:37  * DataGhost burns GodEater's sticking device
19:37  * DataGhost burns GodEater's poking device
19:37 < GodEater> hahahah - nice script
19:38 < DerPapst_> hehe
19:38 < GodEater> any news on whether or not the core devs have accepted his patch yet ?
19:39 < DerPapst_> they haven't accepted it yet.
19:39 < GodEater> have they even commented on it ?
19:39 < GodEater> admitted they've seen it ?
19:39 < GodEater> breathed in the last week or so ? ;)
19:39 < DerPapst_> courtc said that he'll look at it.
19:39 < GodEater> cool
19:40 < DerPapst_> but that was 1 and a half week ago or something ;)
19:40 < GodEater> bloody hell
19:40 < BleuLlama> what patch is this?
19:40 < BleuLlama> i never saw an email to patches@
19:40 < GodEater> to Loader2
19:40 < DerPapst_> thats the way open source works... but who do i tell that ...
19:41 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: i gan give you the link.
19:41 < BleuLlama> nah
19:41 < GodEater> is the patch@ thingy the official way to submit them ?
19:41 < DerPapst_> or i can email it to patches@
19:42 < GodEater> can't hurt :)
19:42 < DerPapst_> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/ipodloader2-80GB.patch
19:43 < BleuLlama> yes.  emailing a patch to patches@ipodlinux.org is the way patches should be submitted.
19:43 < GodEater> best do that then DerPapst_
19:43 < GodEater> or else it'll never get in
19:43 < DerPapst_> ok. i'll do it
19:43 < GodEater> since DataGhost doesn't seem to have done it himself
19:44  * DerPapst_ hopes DataGhost is ok with it.
19:44 < GodEater> can't see why he wouldn't be
19:44 < GodEater> he *did* say he was looking to get it commited to svn
19:44 < DerPapst_> it is "his" patch. maybe he want to submitt it himself
19:44 < GodEater> it' got his name in it
19:44 < GodEater> the credit will still go to him
19:44 < DerPapst_> yep..
19:45 < GodEater> whoever emails it in
19:45 < GodEater> it's not like you're claiming you wrote it ;)
19:45  * DerPapst_ prepares the email
19:45 < BleuLlama> we're like Atari.  no individual credit.  everything is done only by "The iPodLinux Team"
19:45 < BleuLlama> that way we don't have to worry about who goes where in the credits listing
19:46 < GodEater> perhaps the contributers page needs changing then
19:46 < DerPapst_> i like that philosophy...
19:46 < BleuLlama> ;)
19:46 < GodEater> it lists who's done what
19:46  * BleuLlama isn't serious
19:46 < GodEater> ;)
19:46 < GodEater> as far as I can tell
19:46 < GodEater> Credits are the only thing worth making something opensource for
19:46 < GodEater> you do it for the kudos ;)
19:47 < GodEater> which may be pathetic
19:47 < GodEater> but it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I see my name in lights somewhere ;)
19:47 < GodEater> or in html
19:47 < GodEater> whichever
19:49 < DerPapst_> hehe
19:49 < BleuLlama> that's not why i do it
19:49 < BleuLlama> i do it so that i have the apps and fucntionality that *i* want.
19:50 < BleuLlama> i do it for completely selfish reasons
19:50 < GodEater> yeah - but if you do it for that - there's no need to release it to the public is there ?
19:50 < BleuLlama> i thought that podzilla0 looked like crap in monochrome on a color ipod, so i added color support for it, and submitted it all back to the project in case other people wanted it to 
19:50 < BleuLlama> too*
19:50 < BleuLlama> i did it because i wanted it to look nice
19:50 < BleuLlama> not because i wanted people to thank me for it
19:50 < GodEater> fair enough
19:51 < Fossi> actually it can be very good to sign over the copyright if relicensing is ever needed
19:51 < GodEater> very altruistic of you
19:51 < BleuLlama> the samne with clocks, mikmodule, etc... that's all for my own use, but everyone wins
19:51 < DerPapst_> mail sent
19:52 < GodEater> sweet
19:54 < DerPapst_> btw.. the link to subscribe to the patches mailing list is broken.. if anyone cares.
19:55 < DerPapst_> i mean this one: http://ipodlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/patches_ipodlinux.org
19:55 < BleuLlama> it's one of the things that got lost in the switchover to the new servers, i think
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20:05 < JavaMan22> derpapst, does idoom and iboy work for you?
20:06 < DerPapst_> never tested it.
20:06 < JavaMan22> ok
20:06 < JavaMan22> because its not working for me
20:06 < DerPapst_> i know that idoom works on the 80GB ipod...
20:07 < JavaMan22> i was trying to install ilauncher but it said it couldnt find /mnt/iLaunch/iLaunch when it is there!
20:07 < DerPapst_> sure
20:07 < JavaMan22> it was i looked in mnt/iLaunch
20:07 < DerPapst_> because the kernel can't access the fat partition.
20:07 < DerPapst_> but you know that
20:08 < JavaMan22> :o
20:08 < JavaMan22> but the tutorial told me to do that
20:08 < GodEater> I'm glad it's not just #rockbox where people don't read very well...
20:08 < DerPapst_> the tut expects a fully working kernel
20:08 < JavaMan22> so i dont have a fully working kernel?
20:09 < JavaMan22> is there a better one and where can i get it
20:09 < DerPapst_> heh... but to be honset i think in #rockbox it's even worse. the installation of rb is done in 2 minutes.. 
20:09 < GodEater> JavaMan22: are we to assume you're using an 80GB ipod ?
20:09 < JavaMan22> rockbox was easy to install for me :D
20:09 < JavaMan22> 30gb 5.5g
20:10 < GodEater> curious
20:10 < GodEater> the iPL kernel doesn't read the FAT partition on that either DerPapst_ ?
20:10 < DerPapst_> hrmm..
20:10 < JavaMan22> derpapst i also tryed to install external launcher
20:10 < DerPapst_> i think the hacked one from dataghost does...
20:10 < JavaMan22> it worked but i cant use it
20:11 < JavaMan22> it crashes everytime i click quit podzilla and run
20:11 < DerPapst_> run what? away?
20:11 < GodEater> he hacked the fat driver too ?
20:11 < GodEater> Brave boy
20:11 < DerPapst_> no but for the 30GB ipod the fat driver is ok
20:12 < JavaMan22> no run iboy or idoom
20:12 < DerPapst_> only the parsing of the partition table failes
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20:12 < DerPapst_> *failed
20:12 < GodEater> ahh I see
20:13 < DerPapst_> the kernel reads the partition table and assumes that the drive use 512b/s so he multiplied it by 4 and the kernel searches at the correct postitions.
20:13 < JavaMan22> derpapst i think maybe it wont save from apple os because i have to make the ipod_control not hidden
20:14 < JavaMan22> have you tryed that?
20:14 < GodEater> multiplied by 4 ?
20:14 < GodEater> not 2 ?
20:14 < DerPapst_> JavaMan22 i've tested it yesterday with a fresh restored iPod. the stopwatch thingys are still deleted afer a hard reset.
20:15 < DerPapst_> GodEater: the disk has a logical sectorsize of 2048b/s (the one from the 30GB iPod)
20:15 < GodEater> I thought that was only over usb
20:16 < GodEater> otherwise RB wouldn't work on it
20:16 < GodEater> and RB works fine on the 30GB
20:16 < GodEater> using 512kb sectors
20:16 < GodEater> kb
20:16 < GodEater> listen to me
20:16 < GodEater> twit
20:16 < GodEater> I mean 512 byte
20:17 < DerPapst_> yes i know. but if you read the post of dataghost again (rb forum 80GB thread in New Ports) he has multiplied it by 4 and it works.. why ever.
20:17 < GodEater> but I thought that was on his 80GB
20:17 < GodEater> not a 30 ?
20:17 < DerPapst_> yep. but the same kernel works on 30Gb iPod as well.
20:18 < GodEater> that's bloody peculiar
20:18 < BleuLlama> it's * M A G I C *
20:18 < GodEater> hehehe
20:18 < JavaMan22> derpapst wats the best kernel so far
20:18 < DerPapst_> a lot of 30Gb 5.5G owners are using DataGhosts kernel and it seems to work for them. it mounts both partitions without problems.
20:19 < JavaMan22> where can i get his?
20:19 < DerPapst_> you have it already
20:19 < JavaMan22> ?
20:19 < DerPapst_> otherwise everything wouldn't work
20:19 < JavaMan22> oh
20:19 < JavaMan22> im curious how those other guys got iboy and idoom
20:20 < BleuLlama> 1. download iboy or idoom
20:20 < DerPapst_> read the 30GB thread the forum.
20:20 < BleuLlama> 2. that's it
20:20 < JavaMan22> i did that
20:20 < DerPapst_> that is the best tut ever seen :D
20:20 < JavaMan22> im using iLauncher is that recommended?
20:20 < BleuLlama> no. use podzilla2 with the llauncher module
20:20 < DerPapst_> iLuncher is unofficial.
20:20 < JavaMan22> oh
20:21 < DerPapst_> but you need a  pz2 built from svn
20:21 < JavaMan22> oh i have an old one?
20:21 < BleuLlama> svn version 1401 or newer
20:22 < JavaMan22> but i could not see that in the list on the wiki
20:23 < JavaMan22> bleullama where can i get the latest svn?
20:23 < GodEater> from svn ?
20:23 < GodEater> is it a trick question ?
20:23 < JavaMan22> ?
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20:24 < DerPapst_> heh
20:24 < GodEater> svn cp url://to/ipl/svn/trunk pz2name ?
20:24 < JavaMan22> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/ its not there
20:25 < DerPapst_> bcause no one has updated the build script yet.
20:26 < JavaMan22> then how can i get it?
20:26 < DerPapst_> install linux on your pc, install the Toolchain, compile it yourself.
20:26 < JavaMan22> but where can i get the source code?
20:27 < GodEater> good god
20:27 < DerPapst_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Source_Code
20:27 < JavaMan22> ok
20:27 < JavaMan22> 2007-01-29-podzilla.gz
20:27 < JavaMan22> that must be it?
20:28 < DerPapst_> no.
20:28 < JavaMan22> :/
20:28 < DerPapst_> that is pz0
20:28 < DerPapst_> you need pz2
20:28 < JavaMan22> ok
20:29 < JavaMan22> it doesnt tell me wat podzilla it is
20:29 < GodEater> is there something stopping you checking it out of svn ?
20:29 < JavaMan22> ?
20:29 < DerPapst_> btw. why are the kernel and pz0 still build daily? nothing has changed in their code for nearly 2 years.
20:29 < GodEater> why do you have to download it from a website ?
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20:29 < JavaMan22> well ive been asking where
20:30 < JavaMan22> and no one told me
20:30 < DerPapst_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Source_Code
20:30 < DerPapst_> again
20:30 < GodEater> because it's available in svn
20:30 < JavaMan22> im very confused
20:30 < GodEater> I don't understand why you feel you can't check it out yourself
20:30 < JavaMan22> check wat?
20:30 < GodEater> the source
20:30 < JavaMan22> i cant find the source
20:31  * GodEater screams and runs
20:31 < JavaMan22> >:o
20:31 < GodEater> DerPapst_ has told you TWICE where to get it
20:31 < DerPapst_> HAHA
20:32 < DerPapst_> svn co http://svn.ipodlinux.org/tools
20:32 < DerPapst_> is all you need to know :-/
20:32 < GodEater> where the hell did I put my LART
20:32 < JavaMan22> i clicked on podzilla2
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20:32 < JavaMan22> which files do i need?
20:33 < GodEater> oh. my. god.
20:33 < JavaMan22> wat happened
20:34 < DerPapst_> you need the complete HotDog source, The complete TTK source and the complete podzilla2 source code.
20:34 < GodEater> JavaMan22: will you please READ the page DerPapst_ has given you the link to twice
20:34 < GodEater> rather than just clicking on links in it
20:34  * BleuLlama readies the /k
20:34 < JavaMan22> ...
20:35 < JavaMan22> why cant someone with linux do that so we dont have so much trouble
20:35 < BleuLlama> i can't parse that sentence at all
20:35 < JavaMan22> godeater i just read and i understand non of it :D
20:35 < BleuLlama> then you should read up before attempting ipl
20:36 < JavaMan22> :(
20:36 < JavaMan22> does compiling take a long time or something?
20:36 < DerPapst_> or wait until the build script is fixed...
20:37 < DerPapst_> if everything is setup correctly maybe one minute
20:37 < DerPapst_> s/setup/set up
20:37 < JavaMan22> then why is the list that i looked at is so outdated
20:38 < JavaMan22> podzilla2-1317.gz
20:38 < DerPapst_> because after the move of the svn source tree the script doesn'T fine the new code.
20:38 < JavaMan22> ?
20:38 < DerPapst_> s/fine/find
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20:39 < JavaMan22> derpapst why cant someone just upload their compiled version?
20:40 < JavaMan22> this is preventing a lot of noobs like me from getting updated stuff
20:40 < DerPapst_> e.g my compiled version doesn't work correctly and i don't know why.
20:40 < DerPapst_> don't know about others.
20:40 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: what ipod are you working with?
20:40 < JavaMan22> 30gb 5.5
20:40 < GodEater> because we don't want noobs working with beta code ?
20:40 < JavaMan22> im not trying to work with beta code
20:40 < JavaMan22> im trying to play iboy
20:40 < JavaMan22> and idoom
20:41 < BleuLlama> if you're working with a 5.5g, then you should be ready to do stuff by hand, on your own.  sorry, but that's the way it is.
20:41 < BleuLlama> notice the topic.  it is unsupported
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20:41 < JavaMan22> :(
20:41 < DerPapst_> *cough* *cough* current build in rockbox.org
20:41 < Fossi> noobs should be desperate to get a clue :)
20:41 < JavaMan22> :D
20:41 < JavaMan22> hi
20:41 < Fossi> but i guess that'd make them not behave noobish anymore
20:42 < DerPapst_> heh
20:42 < JavaMan22> derpapst thats rockbox builds?
20:42 < Fossi> which would in turn be too much for the world. you know worldpeace and all
20:42 < DerPapst_> lol :-/
20:43 < JavaMan22> derpapst there is no mention of podzilla2
20:43 < DerPapst_> that was a comment for GodEater. not for you
20:43 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: JavaMan22 try here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=initiative
20:43 < GodEater> DerPapst_: if I had my way - they wouldn't play with RB either ;)
20:43 < JavaMan22> >:o
20:44 < GodEater> but it's not unsupported anyway
20:44 < GodEater> it's just not *released*
20:45 < DerPapst_> btw. does anyone else get "Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)" often in a fresh compiled version of pz2? that happens for nearly every second module.
20:46 < JavaMan22> Builds for podzilla 2 (core, modules, and fonts+schemes) are at http://josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds and are updated four times  daily.
20:47 < DerPapst_> not after the they've moved the source tree
20:47 < JavaMan22> so noone has a working compiled latest svn build?
20:47 < JavaMan22> >:o
20:47 < DerPapst_> they are still updated 4 times daily but they acces the old source tree.
20:48 < DerPapst_> and that hasn't changed since 134X
20:48 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: how many times do we need to say it;  check out the source, build it yourself.  the current nightly builds are broken sicne the server changeovers
20:48 < BleuLlama> that's all we can do right now
20:48 < JavaMan22> well why dont they move the source tree which btw i dont know what it is :D
20:48 < BleuLlama> if you're going to be working with exeperimental code on an experimental-build of ipod drivers, you should be able to build the source.
20:49 < BleuLlama> ask again... please.
20:49 < JavaMan22> bleullama you dont have a working compiled version?
20:49 < DerPapst_> they've moved it. why should they move it back?
20:49 < JavaMan22> does anyone have a working compiled version
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20:50 < BleuLlama> CLUE APPLICATOR APPLIED
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20:51 < DerPapst_> he has given up... hopefully.
20:51 < BleuLlama> o...kay
20:52 < GodEater> I shall ask and ask and ask until I hear the answer I want
20:52 < GodEater> or someone kills me
20:52 < DerPapst_> that brings be back to my question about the segfault error...
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20:52 < BleuLlama> segfault error?
20:52 < GodEater> tor
20:52 < JavaMan22> what just happened :D
20:52 < JavaMan22> i got disconnected!
20:52 < DerPapst_> [21:51] DerPapst: btw. does anyone else get "Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)" often in a fresh compiled version of pz2? that happens for nearly every second module.
20:52 < JavaMan22> :D
20:53 < bmxr> you were booted
20:53 < JavaMan22> bleulama as i was saying
20:53 < BleuLlama> you really got to fix that irc pasting, DerPapst_... black text on a black background
20:53 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: i asked you not to ask again, then you did, so i kicked you out of the channel
20:53 < DerPapst_> ieks. sorry.
20:53 < BleuLlama> if you do it again, i'll kickban you.
20:53 < DerPapst_> can you still read it?
20:53 < JavaMan22> does anyone have a compiled version?
20:53 < JavaMan22> just say yes or no
20:54  * GodEater watches for the boot
20:54 < GodEater> DerPapst_ I can read it
20:54 < DerPapst_> yes.
20:54 < DerPapst_> i have one and it doesn't work
20:54 < DerPapst_> why ever.
20:54 < BleuLlama> JavaMan22: NO. 
20:54 < BleuLlama> and bye!  ask in the forums
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20:54 < DerPapst_> and i'm the only one who was able to compile it.
20:55 < DerPapst_> heh.. you were to fast :P
20:55 < BleuLlama> sorry about that
20:55 < DerPapst_> :)
20:56 < BleuLlama> i jsut got a package with 5 iPodlinux/tux keychains in it
20:57 < BleuLlama> they're thick too.
20:57 < BleuLlama> think i'm gonna keep one for myself.
20:57 < BleuLlama> the one with my name on it
20:57 < BleuLlama> :}
20:57 < DerPapst_> nice :)
20:57 < bmxr> maybe the one with your name on it :)
20:57 < DerPapst_> bmxr: are you going to make some more?
20:57 < BleuLlama> :)
20:58 < BleuLlama> bmxr: these really look ACE
20:58 < bmxr> maybe but not for a bit
20:58 < bmxr> sorry it took so long
20:58 < DerPapst_> ah ok
20:58 < BleuLlama> what kind of machine is used to make them?
20:58 < bmxr> and the first one was lost :-/
20:58 < BleuLlama> :(
20:58 < bmxr> i'll find a picture just a second
20:59 < BleuLlama> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Keychain
20:59 < fxb> hey bmxr
20:59 < bmxr> no of the machine
20:59 < BleuLlama> yep.
21:00 < bmxr> http://www.sodepar.fr/media/1131027278.jpg
21:00 < BleuLlama> man. i gotta clean off my keychain.
21:00 < BleuLlama> 8 keys, caribeaner, mini-maglight, chain, pocketknifr
21:00 < bmxr> hahaha
21:01 < bmxr> more keychains than keys 
21:01 < DerPapst_> bmxr: do have designed the model in CAD?
21:02 < bmxr> i do
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21:02 < BleuLlama> agh
21:02 < BleuLlama> i suck
21:02 < DerPapst_> hm?
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21:02 < BleuLlama> sometimes, i shouldn't have channel ops
21:03 < DerPapst_> heh
21:03 < DerPapst_> i don't even know what you've done :P
21:03 < bmxr> Derpapst: i can send you the cad file if you'd like. i Have it at work and can send it tonight
21:03 < DerPapst_> would be cool
21:04 < DerPapst_> maybe upload it to the wiki. --> keychains for all who are able to make them. :P
21:04 < bmxr> ya it says on the wiki page i would soon
21:04 < bmxr> but i haven't gotten around to it
21:05 < DerPapst_> heh.. i just read that part ;)
21:06 < DerPapst_> and maybe add a disclaimer. if they are sold the profit goes to iPL/Donations ;)
21:06 < BleuLlama> i should put these up on ebay, and put all of the money received towards the project
21:06 < BleuLlama> or hold onto them for the next contest
21:06 < BleuLlama> bmxr: thoughts?
21:07 < bmxr> either way i sold one on ebay and donated what i got to bern but it was a lot of hassle
21:07 < bmxr> i figure someone more tied into the project would be better to deal with them
21:09 < bmxr> be right back
21:13 < bmxr> back
21:13 < DerPapst_> maybe test sell one (publish it on keychain wikipage, forum and blog). if it goes good sell the rest, if not keep them for the next contest.
21:15 < DerPapst_> but if you post it in the forum make a post in off-topic too and stiky it. only 5% of the users are reading the announcements. but 99,5% of the users are reading off-topic :P
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21:16 < bmxr> that seemed like a problem i had i posted in offtopic but not many view since offtopic has so much garabage posted daily
21:16 < DerPapst_> yep. thats why the stickie
21:17 < DerPapst_> otherwise you are on page 2 in about 30 minutes
21:18 < bmxr> yep
21:20 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: about the segfault error: nearly every second module gives me the following error message:  "Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)" and i don't know why that happens :'( They are fresh compiled from rev 1404.
21:21 < BleuLlama> weird.
21:22 < DerPapst_> i've already tried to delete hotdog, ttk and pz2 and check it out again. still no luck.
21:23 < bmxr> let me test hang on
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21:27 < bmxr> everything works on my end
21:27 < bmxr> make and make IPOD=1 both compile clean
21:27 < DerPapst_> hmm... odd.
21:27 < DerPapst_> but thanks for testing
21:27 < DerPapst_> they compile clean for me too
21:28 < DerPapst_> but if i e.g. launch prodwrite or some other modules on my iPod pz2 crashes.
21:28 < bmxr> ooo.. i miss understood
21:29 < bmxr> just on your ipod or desktop build?
21:29 < DerPapst_> only on my ipod.
21:31 < bmxr> well my ipod is at work too so i'll test tonight
21:31 < DerPapst_> but if i quit pz2 on my desktop build i get the message "Specherzugriffsfehler" (bad translated: "Memory access error")
21:32 < bmxr> ok
21:32 < fxb> "Segmentation Fault"
21:33 < DerPapst_> heh.
21:33 < fxb> re-installed SDL etc.?
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21:34 < bmxr> i'm pretty sure i have 1404 on my ipod right now and it works fine
21:34 < bmxr> but i've only been testing my own module
21:34 < DerPapst_> hm.. yeah. i can try that... but that still doesn't explain it for the ipod. because the build sdl and sdl_image librarys for the ipod are in svn.
21:34 < DerPapst_> s/build/built
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21:52 < bmxr_> BleuLlama how can i kick bmxr because it's me but my computer froze up ?
21:52 < GodEater>  /msg nickserv help
21:52 < GodEater> ghost is the command you want
21:53 < DerPapst_> do /msg nickserv ghost bmxr <password>
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21:58 < bmxr_> there thanks 
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22:01 < bmxr_> ok i got to go to work bye
22:01 < DerPapst_> bye
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22:46 < RebVodka16> anybody know why linux corrupst my ipods memory?
22:46 < RebVodka16> corrupts*
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23:13 < DryLoop> hi
23:13 < DryLoop> im trying to install ipod linux, and it has been at 'patching the Ipod's firmware.'  total progress 98% for the last 15 mins.
23:15 < DryLoop> anyone?
23:17 < DataGhost> heh DerPapst_
23:17 < DataGhost> this was actually the first time
23:18 < DataGhost> that I had to insist... SEVERAL TIMES... with arguments... that the conductor stamped my train ticket
23:18 < DataGhost> even while he was about to fine someone else for not having one :P
23:19 < DryLoop> oh it worked :) just needed time
23:20 < DerPapst_> hi DataGhost :)
23:21 < DerPapst_> i've submitted your ipodloader2-80G.patch to patches at ipodlinux . org today.
23:21 < DerPapst_> i hope that is ok for you
23:22 < DataGhost> well
23:22 < DataGhost> courtc said that address was moderated
23:22 < DataGhost> and the moderation page was down
23:22 < DataGhost> so I sent it to him, as he said... just waiting for it to appear in svn :P
23:22 < DataGhost> and eh ipodloader2-80G.patch ?
23:23 < DerPapst_> GB
23:23 < DerPapst_> i missed the B
23:23 < DataGhost> oh wait
23:23 < DataGhost> yes B
23:23 < DataGhost> I actually named it like that
23:23 < DataGhost> never mind :P
23:23 < DerPapst_> hehe
23:24 < DataGhost> 'hahaa! ive already patched the 80th generation iPod!!1'
23:24 < DerPapst_> hehe...
23:24 < DerPapst_> how was your exam?
23:25 < DataGhost> bad
23:25 < DataGhost> as I expected
23:25 < DataGhost> :P
23:25 < DataGhost> if I'm very optimistic.. then I scored 4 out of 10
23:25 < DerPapst_> but you reach at least 50% do you?
23:25 < DataGhost> probably just 1 or 2
23:25 < DataGhost> haha funny guy
23:25 < DerPapst_> oh
23:25 < DerPapst_> heh
23:25 < DataGhost> I had to write my instructor's name above it, too
23:25 < DerPapst_> what was it about?
23:26 < DataGhost> I pretended that I just missed that part
23:26 < DataGhost> because I never went to any instruction
23:26 < DataGhost> and I don't know... heh.well
23:26 < DerPapst_> hehe
23:26 < DataGhost> derivation of algorithms
23:26 < DataGhost> with proof etc
23:26 < DataGhost> but I can redo it later
23:26 < DataGhost> or next year, whatev
23:26 < DerPapst_> sounds.. erm.. interressting...
23:26 < DataGhost> doesn't really matter
23:26 < DataGhost> heh
23:28 < DataGhost> let me show (and transcribe) you some
23:28 < DataGhost> Prove the correctness of the following programfragment:
23:28 < DataGhost> Precondition: 0 <= N
23:29 < DataGhost> x, r := 1, 0; while x < N do ( x := 2 * x; r := r + 1 ) od
23:29 < DerPapst_> let me guess.. lambda calculus (or how ever it is translated)
23:29 < DataGhost> postcondition: N <= 2^r and for all i, with 0 <= i < r, (2^i < N) is valid
23:29 < DataGhost> that's worth 4 points
23:29 < DataGhost> out of 10
23:30 < DataGhost> and I can see that it is right, yes
23:30 < DataGhost> it's pretty obvious to me
23:30 < DataGhost> but I have to give... 4 proofs iirc
23:30 < DerPapst_> i've made such a stuff too.
23:30 < DataGhost> for different parts of the code
23:31 < DerPapst_> hwo do you call the algorithm to proofe that? we call it lambda kalkül (bad translated:  lambda calculus)
23:31 < DataGhost> I probably missed that :P
23:32 < DerPapst_> hehe
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23:35 < DataGhost> lol!
23:35 < DataGhost> i 'wont' give him the source
23:35 < DataGhost> I already gave it but he's too thick to notice
23:35 < DerPapst_> hehe
23:36 < DerPapst_> i've told it him again.. and he finally understod it :P
23:36 < DataGhost> he probably just changed that line once, though
23:36 < DataGhost> I guess he'll complain in a bit
23:36 < DataGhost> or just not because he doesn't understand it
23:36 < DataGhost> maybe he'll even ask for compilation instructions
23:36 < DataGhost> 'there is no ./configure!!!!1'
23:37 < DerPapst_> he hasn't found the source of the "iboy kernel"
23:37 < DerPapst_> therefre he can't compile anything.
23:37 < DerPapst_> and i bet he has the 3.4.3 toolchain installed.
23:37 < DataGhost> hehe
23:37 < DataGhost> I bet he doesn't have any toolchain at all :P
23:38 < DerPapst_> he has one.
23:38 < DataGhost> except for x86 gcc
23:38 < DerPapst_> and i think i'm kinda annyoing for zacaj...
23:39 < DerPapst_> if you're reading through "the thread" you'll know what i mean ;)
23:40 < DataGhost> "that partition table looks perfect. so now instead of telling people to do x-1+y*(the number i told you before) or something like that, i can just say d p 2 n p 2 4 896 n p 3 897 [hit enter]"
23:40 < DataGhost> w00t
23:40 < DataGhost> as we all know, partition tables are exactly the same
23:40 < DataGhost> that's why I included support for different partition tables in the loader
23:40 < DataGhost> -_-
23:40 < DataGhost> he's going to screw things up
23:41 < DataGhost> or at least, people without clue
23:41 < DerPapst_> nah. i doubt that....
23:41 < DataGhost> well, they're gonna screw up either way
23:41 < DataGhost> never mind me again :P
23:42 < DataGhost> but I especially like this bit: n p 3 897 [hit enter]
23:42 < DerPapst_> the partitontable "looks" the same for all 5.5G 30GB Winpods if the are restored.
23:42 < DataGhost> that creates a 300GB partition on my iPod
23:42 < DerPapst_> hehe
23:44 < DerPapst_> post'd
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23:48 < DerPapst_> that is the best fdisk instruction ever: p d 2 n p 3 4 20 p n p 2 21 [hit enter] p t 2 b p w
23:53 < DataGhost> that creates a 300GB partition on my iPod... still
23:53 < DataGhost> :P
23:53 < DerPapst_> the one i've posed?
23:54 < DataGhost> there's also 'hit enter' :P
23:54 < DerPapst_> i doubt that.
23:54 < DataGhost> fdisk doesn't recognize the 'end' correctly for some reason
23:54 < DerPapst_> [hit enter] uses the rest of available cylinders.
23:54 < DataGhost> probably because I edited it but iirc I restored my normal mbr
23:55 < DataGhost> yes and fdisk happily uses an invalid number there :P
23:55 < DerPapst_> this one: http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/iPL/Partitioning.html
23:56 < DerPapst_> after hitting return it says "Using default value 2432"
23:56 < DerPapst_> which is ok
23:59 < DataGhost> First sector (63-156301487, default 63): 64260
23:59 < DataGhost> Last sector or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (64260-156301487, default 156301487):
23:59 < DataGhost> /dev/sda2 64260 156301487 312474456 83 Linux
23:59 < DataGhost> or
23:59 < DataGhost> /dev/sda2 5 9730 312474456 83 Linux
23:59 < DataGhost> :P
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