--- Log opened Sat Jan 27 00:00:01 2007
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00:45 < Killaspike> I just installed iboy and am trying to access the iboy color. When I try to load it via launcher2 it says ,
00:46 < Killaspike> file:(hd0, 1)/iboy_kernel.bin  err: open failed
00:46 < Killaspike> I have the updated kernel in the root folder
00:47 < Killaspike> can anyone help?
00:47 < BleuLlama> is iboy_kernel.bin an actual self-booting kernel, or is it just the iboy application?
00:47 < BleuLlama> i didn't know they made a standalone iBoy
00:47 < DerPapst> iboy needs a kernel.
00:47 < Killaspike> im not sure im trying to load it from launcher2
00:47 < BleuLlama> that's what i thought, DerPapst 
00:48 < BleuLlama> Killaspike: you can only load OS type kernels from launcher2
00:48 < BleuLlama> er loader2?
00:48 < BleuLlama> so you'd need to start linux with iboy as an argument to it
00:48 < Killaspike> iPL loader 2.4
00:48 < BleuLlama> right.  loader2.  you said launcher2
00:48 < Killaspike> sorry
00:48 < Killaspike> mistype =P
00:49 < BleuLlama> still,  you can't do it the way you're trying to do it
00:49 < BleuLlama> iboy isn't an operating syste
00:49 < BleuLlama> m
00:49 < BleuLlama> it's an application which needs to be run in ipodlinux
00:49 < Killaspike> the old one loads fine off loader2
00:49 < Killaspike> the iboy color doesnt
00:50 < Killaspike> it needs an updated kernel that i downloaded and put into the root folder
00:50 < BleuLlama> ah.
00:50 < BleuLlama> wellm, if the old one works, use that instead
00:51 < Killaspike> yeah but I cant play gboy color on that one, the old one is for classic gboy
00:51 < BleuLlama> weird.  DerPapst: according to the iBoy page, they hacked a linux kernel to run iboy, so it can run from the loader.  that's a weird idea.
00:51 < Killaspike> I think it has something to do with loader.cfg
00:51 < BleuLlama> Killaspike: my suggestion is to ask the people who made iboy
00:51 < Killaspike> alright
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00:55 < DerPapst> heh.. indeed.
00:56 < BleuLlama> that's just... weird
00:56 < DataGhost> ?
00:56 < DataGhost> nobody noticed the space in (hd0, 1) ??
00:56 < DerPapst> i know that they had a modified kernel which uses a smaller audiobuffer so that iboy can use more ram for colorroms
00:56 < DataGhost> I was indexing music.. :/ :)
00:57 < DerPapst> but anyway... 
00:57 < BleuLlama> that's strange
00:57 < BleuLlama> but okay. heh
00:57 < DataGhost> lol
00:57 < DataGhost> :P
00:57 < BleuLlama> I didn't think that mattered.
00:57 < DataGhost> I think it does :D
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00:58 < DerPapst> dunno. it seems to work.
00:58 < DataGhost> hm?
00:58 < JavaMan22> derpapst i finally got it working!
00:58 < JavaMan22> not ipl but slax
00:58 < DerPapst> heh
00:58 < JavaMan22> its running on my other computer right now :D
00:58 < JavaMan22> but one thing i can do fdisk
00:58 < JavaMan22> well i can just it wont open
00:58 < JavaMan22> i tryed many numbers
00:59 < JavaMan22> *cant
00:59 < JavaMan22> derpapst do i have to make that computer log into windows and do the ipodpatcher scan?
00:59 < JavaMan22> then log back to slax and use fdisk [whatever number]
01:00 < DerPapst> uh..
01:00 < DerPapst> no.
01:00 < JavaMan22> then wat do i do?
01:00 < JavaMan22> you said you would help me once i have slax working
01:00 < DerPapst> is the pc which is running slax able to connect to the internet?
01:00 < JavaMan22> :D
01:00 < JavaMan22> yes
01:00 < DerPapst> then open the page
01:01 < DerPapst> and download ipodpatcher for linux
01:01 < JavaMan22> how do i do cd in linux?
01:01 < JavaMan22> i mean in the command prompt
01:01 < JavaMan22> like in windows i would do cd ..
01:01 < JavaMan22> or cd My_Documents
01:01 < JavaMan22> how would you do that in linux
01:02 < DerPapst> in the terminal the same way you di it in windows
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01:02 < JavaMan22> ok good
01:02 < DerPapst> cd works in linux too.
01:02 < JavaMan22> so i must download those things in linux not windows
01:03 < DerPapst> yes
01:03 < JavaMan22> also
01:03 < JavaMan22> i think there is something wrong with your tut
01:03 < JavaMan22> it skips the install kernel part
01:03 < DerPapst> or put them on windows on your ipod and then in linux somewhere else
01:03 < JavaMan22> do i have to install kernel?
01:03 < DerPapst> no it doesn't
01:04 < JavaMan22> wat is kernel?
01:04 < DerPapst> read it again: http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/iPL/5.5G_installation.html
01:04 < DerPapst> there is the kernel part
01:05 < JavaMan22> i know there is
01:05 < JavaMan22> but when you click a link
01:05 < JavaMan22> If you weren't using a MacPod, you can skip this step.
01:05 < JavaMan22> it skips installing kernel and goes to install userland
01:06 < DerPapst> yeah. then don't skip that step ^^
01:06 < JavaMan22> ok
01:06 < JavaMan22> but i dont know how to do that step anyways
01:06 < JavaMan22> i dont even know wat it means
01:06 < JavaMan22> ext3
01:06 < DerPapst> it's a filesystem format like fat32 or ntfs
01:07 < JavaMan22> but how do i move the file to ext3?
01:07 < DerPapst> have you already used fdisk?
01:08 < JavaMan22> not yet
01:08 < JavaMan22> im doing startx
01:08 < JavaMan22> :D
01:08 < JavaMan22> its quite a walk from this computer to the one that works
01:08 < JavaMan22> so when i save stuff in linux
01:09 < JavaMan22> where does it save it really
01:11 < DerPapst> huh?
01:13 < JavaMan22> derpapst i was wrong
01:13 < JavaMan22> i dont have internet connection
01:13 < JavaMan22> at least its not working
01:13 < JavaMan22> my wireless card isnt flashing at all
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01:13 < JavaMan22> maybe i could send the files over with a flashdisk?
01:13 < DerPapst> yeah
01:13 < JavaMan22> but
01:13 < DerPapst> that is probably the best
01:14 < JavaMan22> how do i view flashdisks?
01:14 < DerPapst> but not your ipod
01:14 < DerPapst> insert them in your pc and linux automounts them
01:14 < JavaMan22> is it in my home when i plug it in?
01:14 < JavaMan22> ok
01:14 < DerPapst> like winblows
01:15 < JavaMan22> do you think ill get ipl on my ipod? :D
01:16 < DerPapst> i think you soulb play arround with linux at least a week until you are a bit fammiliar with it
01:16 < DerPapst> then you can attemp to install linux on ypour ipod
01:16 < JavaMan22> ...
01:17 < JavaMan22> ok so i should start from the begging of the tut?
01:17 < JavaMan22> with ipodpatcher and stuff
01:18 < DerPapst> you always start at the beginning.
01:20 < JavaMan22> derpapst i cant get into flashdisk with command
01:20 < JavaMan22> it says its at system:/media/blah balh balh
01:20 < JavaMan22> how do i get there with command
01:20 < DerPapst> err...
01:20 < JavaMan22> i tryed cd system
01:20 < JavaMan22> it failed
01:21 < JavaMan22> did i do something wrong?
01:22 < DerPapst> yes
01:22 < JavaMan22> wat
01:22 < DerPapst> that doesn't even work in windows
01:22 < JavaMan22> ?
01:22 < JavaMan22> lol
01:23 < DerPapst> copy the files to somewhere where you can access them
01:23 < JavaMan22> oh good idea
01:28 < JavaMan22> omg
01:28 < JavaMan22> i spent 10 minutes trying to run a .exe
01:29 < JavaMan22> derpapst the link to the linux ipodpatcher , i cant download it
01:29 < JavaMan22> it wants to save it as a .txt
01:30 < JavaMan22> wat do i save it as
01:30 < JavaMan22> is it .bin?
01:32 < DerPapst> yes.
01:32 < JavaMan22> ok
01:32 < DerPapst> this one:http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/%7Es5242253/iPL/ipodpatcher/linux-x86/ipodpatcher
01:33 < JavaMan22> i already backed up my firmware and copyed all my files on this computer
01:33 < JavaMan22> do i have to do again on the other?
01:33 < DerPapst> again?
01:33 < JavaMan22> yeh
01:34 < DerPapst> what do you mean with again?
01:34 < JavaMan22> like do i have to back up my stuff on the computer with slax
01:34 < JavaMan22> or is it ok to leave bootpartition.bin and all my ipod files on this computer
01:36 < DerPapst> yeah that is ok
01:42 < JavaMan22> derpapst
01:42 < JavaMan22> ok so i just finished fdisk
01:42 < JavaMan22> but at the end after it says that is is altered
01:42 < JavaMan22> it also says the device is busy
01:43 < JavaMan22> but i guess its ok because when i went to fdisk again and p it still had the info right
01:43 < JavaMan22> so now im at format partitions but i cant because mkfs.vfat doesnt work
01:43 < JavaMan22> !!!
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01:44 < JavaMan22> oh wait
01:44 < JavaMan22> i didnt read below
01:44 < JavaMan22> :D
01:46 < JavaMan22> derpapst it says it doesnt know what sdX2 is!!!
01:46 < JavaMan22> i tryed sda2 but that didnt work either!!
01:47 < JavaMan22> derpapst please answer i have a bedtime, belive it!
01:47 < DerPapst> yeah...
01:47 < DerPapst> you won't finish in time anyway.
01:47 < DerPapst> try 
01:47 < JavaMan22> please!
01:48 < JavaMan22> :D
01:48 < DerPapst> eject /dev/sda
01:48 < JavaMan22> then it would work?
01:48 < JavaMan22> :D
01:48 < JavaMan22> ill try
01:48 < DerPapst> no then you have to reattach the ipod.
01:48 < DerPapst> then it reads your mew mbr
01:49 < DerPapst> then you have to get [device again]
01:49 < DerPapst> *[device]
01:50 < JavaMan22> ...
01:50 < JavaMan22> really?
01:51 < JavaMan22> because i just went on
01:51 < JavaMan22> and right now its at superblocks
01:51 < JavaMan22> argh i hope i didnt do anything stupid
01:52 < DerPapst> dunno what you're talking about
01:52 < JavaMan22> ok derpapst im up to installing kernel part!
01:53 < JavaMan22> :d almost there
01:53 < JavaMan22> the thing is i dont know how to move the file to ext3 like i said earlier
01:53 < DerPapst> and mkdosfs worked...
01:53 < JavaMan22> yes it did
01:53 < DerPapst> ok
01:54 < JavaMan22> it just finished superblocks
01:54 < JavaMan22> so now wat
01:54 < JavaMan22> :D
01:54 < DerPapst> continue?
01:54 < JavaMan22> yes
01:54 < JavaMan22> of course!
01:54 < JavaMan22> :D
01:55 < JavaMan22> i will have to hold out my parents if it gets too late
01:55 < JavaMan22> Rename the Kernel to linux.bin and place it in the root of your  ext3 partition. <<< dont know how
01:55 < DerPapst> too late... heh. it's already 3am for me
01:55 < JavaMan22> no dont leave :(
01:55 < JavaMan22> its only 9 pm here
01:56 < JavaMan22> derpapst please im at the verge of finishing
01:56 < DerPapst> err.. 
01:56 < JavaMan22> so how do i move it to ext3?
01:57 < DerPapst> if you have formated the ext3 partition correctly then you can access it
01:57 < DerPapst> linux should automount it
01:57 < DerPapst> somewhere
01:57 < JavaMan22> uh
01:57 < JavaMan22> ill try to find it
01:57 < DerPapst> i don't know how slax is doing it tough
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02:00 < JavaMan22> derpapst
02:01 < JavaMan22> i unplugged my ipod
02:01 < JavaMan22> and then plugged it back in
02:01 < JavaMan22> and now my ipod screen is stuck at
02:01 < JavaMan22> loading original firmware
02:01 < JavaMan22> i forgot to tell you that i already have rockbox
02:01 < JavaMan22> and now my ipod is frozen i tryed reseting but it wont work
02:02 < JavaMan22> ok yes it did
02:02 < DerPapst> i thought you have a 80GB ipod
02:02 < JavaMan22> 30gb
02:02 < JavaMan22> 5.5
02:02 < DerPapst> ah
02:02 < DerPapst> and you had the rockbox loader already installed?
02:02 < JavaMan22> omg
02:02 < JavaMan22> yes
02:02 < DerPapst> aha
02:03 < JavaMan22> derpapst my ipod keeps restarting and freezing?
02:03 < JavaMan22> will the tut still go on?
02:03 < JavaMan22> btw i couldnt find ext3 is it a folder or something?
02:03 < DerPapst> and now you've installed the Loader on that page
02:03 < JavaMan22> derpapst my ipod wont shutdown!!
02:04 < JavaMan22> im in trouble !!!
02:04 < DerPapst> hold menu + center
02:04 < JavaMan22> that resets it though
02:04 < JavaMan22> and it goes back to loading rockbox or loading original firmware
02:04 < JavaMan22> and then freezes because i reformatted remember?
02:04 < DerPapst> that loader is on your ipod?
02:05 < JavaMan22> yes
02:05 < JavaMan22> rockbox
02:05 < DerPapst> i mean what?
02:05 < DerPapst> the rockbox loader?
02:05 < JavaMan22> yes
02:05 < JavaMan22> rockbox boot loader
02:05 < DerPapst> and it can't load the apple_fw anymore?
02:05 < JavaMan22> no
02:06 < DerPapst> ok.
02:06 < JavaMan22> is that good?
02:07 < JavaMan22> derpapst!
02:07 < JavaMan22> dont leave me :(
02:07 < DerPapst> i don't understand what exactly you have done and what not. so put your ipod in diskmode (reset it and after the screen goes blank hold down as fst as you can CENTER + PLAY/PAUSE) and restore it in windows with itunes
02:08 < JavaMan22> ok
02:08 < JavaMan22> i got it in disk mode
02:08 < DerPapst> good.
02:08 < JavaMan22> now i can continue?
02:08 < JavaMan22> :D
02:09 < DerPapst> i don't understand why appleOS won't boot.
02:09 < JavaMan22> i did wat you told me
02:09 < DerPapst> if you continue now you may have iPL and rockbox but no appleOS anymore
02:09 < JavaMan22> um
02:09 < DerPapst> no you don't
02:10 < JavaMan22> wat does apple os have that ipl doesnt have?
02:10 < DerPapst> because BEFORE the instling the kernel step is a install the loader step
02:10 < DerPapst> and you haven't done that obviusly
02:10 < JavaMan22> :o
02:10 < JavaMan22> but but
02:10 < JavaMan22> it says skip
02:10 < DerPapst> because you have still the rb loader
02:10 < DerPapst> what?
02:10 < DerPapst> where?
02:10 < JavaMan22> oh
02:10 < JavaMan22> its confusing
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02:11 < JavaMan22> so i have to install the bootloader?
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02:11 < DerPapst> it seems so. it says nothing about skipping this step
02:12 < JavaMan22> ok
02:12 < DerPapst> and you have to start with a unmodified firmware
02:12 < DerPapst> and yours isn't unmodified (the rockbox loader)
02:14 < JavaMan22> ok done
02:14 < JavaMan22> i finished putting loader.bin in my ipod
02:14 < JavaMan22> now for kernel but i dont know how
02:15 < DerPapst> eject /dev/sdX and try out if appleOS is working.
02:15 < DerPapst> if not you have to restore
02:15 < JavaMan22> ok
02:16 < JavaMan22> YES
02:16 < DerPapst> and just as a reminder. if a step doesn't work you have to try it harder. if a ste fails the whole installation fails.
02:16 < JavaMan22> IT WORKED
02:16 < JavaMan22> IT WORKED
02:16 < JavaMan22> WOOO
02:16 < DerPapst> ok thenn...
02:16 < JavaMan22> WOOOOO
02:16 < JavaMan22> it showed this menu
02:16 < JavaMan22> with apple os
02:16 < JavaMan22> and i clicked on it
02:16 < JavaMan22> and then im in languages now
02:17 < JavaMan22> YES I LOVE YOU DERPAPST
02:17 < JavaMan22> apple os is working
02:17 < JavaMan22> now wat
02:17 < DerPapst> continue
02:17 < JavaMan22> how do i install the kernel
02:17 < JavaMan22> but i dont know wat ext3 is
02:17 < DerPapst> as described
02:18 < DerPapst> ext is a filesystem
02:18 < DerPapst> i already said that
02:18 < JavaMan22> but i have no idea wat you are talking about
02:18 < JavaMan22> how do i go to ext3, is it a folder?
02:18 < DerPapst> dunno where slax is mounting your ipod.
02:19 < DerPapst> ok try the following...
02:19 < JavaMan22> but you used slax right?
02:19 < DerPapst> continue with the userland
02:19 < JavaMan22> ok
02:19 < JavaMan22> skip kernel?
02:19 < DerPapst> if that works ask again with the kernel
02:19 < JavaMan22> ok
02:22 < JavaMan22> derpapst it worked
02:22 < JavaMan22> i installed the userland
02:23 < DerPapst> and it worked?
02:23 < JavaMan22> yes
02:23 < DerPapst> ok.
02:23 < JavaMan22> no errors
02:23 < DerPapst> then you know where your ext3 partition is
02:23 < JavaMan22> how do i know?
02:23 < DerPapst> because that is the partition where you have extracted the userland
02:24 < JavaMan22> wait a moment
02:24 < DerPapst> so open a graphical file browser in slax
02:24 < DerPapst> go to /mnt/ipod
02:24 < DerPapst> and drop the kernel in there
02:24 < DerPapst> and rename it to linux.bin
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02:25 < JavaMan22> ok
02:25 < JavaMan22> but /mnt/ipod is on my computer tho
02:25 < JavaMan22> how is it in my ipod
02:26 < DerPapst> BleuLlama but to the root. otherwise BHSPitLappy wouldn't be happy.
02:26  * BHSPitLappy drops courtc on his BleuLlama 
02:26 < BleuLlama> BHSPitLappy to the r to the oot
02:27 < DerPapst> beacuse linux knows that this is your ipod
02:27 < JavaMan22> ok done
02:27 < JavaMan22> :D
02:27 < JavaMan22> i copyed linux.bin there
02:27 < JavaMan22> can i continue?
02:27 < DerPapst> sure. why not.
02:28 < JavaMan22> i must get podzilla now :D
02:28 < JavaMan22> i dont know wat it is but it sounds interesting
02:28 < DerPapst> the gui
02:28 < JavaMan22> do i have to install podzilla with linux?
02:28 < DerPapst> yes.
02:29 < JavaMan22> ok
02:29 < JavaMan22> which files should i get?
02:29 < JavaMan22> pzmodules-1338.zip ?
02:29 < DerPapst> the latest maybe
02:30 < JavaMan22> and podzilla2-1317.gz right?
02:30 < JavaMan22> both
02:30 < DerPapst> yes
02:30 < BleuLlama> the latest podzilla2 is like 1402
02:30 < JavaMan22> .zip or tar.gz?
02:30 < JavaMan22> i dont see 1402
02:30 < DerPapst> oh please.. don'z make it more confusing as it is now for him ^^
02:31 < DerPapst> *don't
02:31 < BleuLlama> well, he'll want to launch doom and stuff from it, right?
02:31 < JavaMan22> yeh
02:31 < BleuLlama> then you need at least 1400
02:31 < JavaMan22> but i dont see it
02:31 < JavaMan22> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds thats the page i see
02:31 < JavaMan22> :D
02:32 < DerPapst> then blame whoever is doing the nightlys.
02:32 < JavaMan22> but there must be a place to get the new ones?
02:33 < DerPapst> yeah. if you compile them yourselt. which is twice as hard as installing iPL
02:33 < JavaMan22> oh
02:33 < JavaMan22> ok ill use wat i have now then
02:33 < JavaMan22> derpapst it has an installation for windows
02:33 < JavaMan22> does that mean i dont have to use linux?
02:33 < JavaMan22> for podzilla
02:34 < DerPapst> ignore that... but it would be possible.
02:34 < JavaMan22> ?
02:34 < JavaMan22> so the windows installation doesnt work?
02:35 < DerPapst> well.. in linux it is easier.
02:35 < DerPapst> yous extract some files and drom them on the ext3 partition in the correct folder.
02:35 < DerPapst> *just
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02:35 < JavaMan22> but i have to copy it to my flashdisk
02:35 < JavaMan22> and bring it over
02:35 < DerPapst> do that
02:35 < JavaMan22> ok ill do wat you said
02:36 < JavaMan22> so i must get the tar.gz
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02:36 < DerPapst> linux is able to open zip as well.. but get the tar.gz ones
02:38 < JavaMan22> i dont get it
02:38 < JavaMan22> Installation on these platforms is pretty simple. Replace /mnt/ipod  below with the actual mount point of your iPod. On OS X, this is  /Volumes/ followed by the name of your iPod; for example,  /Volumes/iPod. Replace NNN with the number in the name  of the file you downloaded.
02:38 < JavaMan22> wat does that mean
02:39  * BleuLlama walks away
02:39 < DerPapst> Replace /mnt/ipod  below with the actual mount point of your iPod. <-- ignore that
02:39  * DerPapst follows
02:39 < JavaMan22> ok
02:39 < JavaMan22> so ignore that stuff
02:39 < JavaMan22> now i ahve to type those 4 commands?
02:40 < JavaMan22> *5
02:40 < DerPapst> but don't ignore "Replace NNN with the number in the name  of the file you downloaded. "
02:40 < JavaMan22> ok
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02:50 < JavaMan22> derpapst
02:50 < JavaMan22> i cant get past the first command
02:50 < JavaMan22> it tells me that its not a gzip
02:50 < JavaMan22> the podzill2 file
02:51 < JavaMan22> derpapst hurry
02:51 < DerPapst> i have to read it myself first
02:52 < DerPapst> if you can't wait then finish the installation tomorrow
02:52 < JavaMan22> # gunzip podzilla2-NNN.gz
02:52 < JavaMan22> :(
02:52 < DerPapst> ok
02:52 < DerPapst> there are the *.tar.gz files?
02:52 < JavaMan22> it tells me that the file is not a proper gzip
02:52 < DerPapst> *where
02:52 < JavaMan22> in /root
02:52 < JavaMan22> i put it there from my flashdisk
02:53 < JavaMan22> since i was still at /mnt/ipod i did a few cd ..
02:53 < DerPapst> does it have the .gz extension?
02:53 < JavaMan22> then when i was at /boot i did it
02:53 < JavaMan22> yes it does
02:53 < JavaMan22> i also tryed to open it in windows but it couldnt
02:53 < JavaMan22> in this computer i mean
02:54 < DerPapst> right click on it and see whether you can extract it in the GUI
02:54 < JavaMan22> ok
02:54 < JavaMan22> it says
02:54 < JavaMan22> an error occurred when opening the archive
02:55 < JavaMan22> i think all the files on that site is bad
02:55 < DerPapst> hm. dunno. maybe the file is corrupt, maybe your browser has already extracted it...
02:55 < JavaMan22> oh my god >:o
02:56 < JavaMan22> is it supposed to be tar.gz?
02:56 < DerPapst> ok...
02:56 < JavaMan22> wat
02:56 < DerPapst> next thing.
02:56 < JavaMan22> you found the problem?
02:56 < JavaMan22> :D
02:56 < DerPapst> get the zip files and extract them in windows
02:57 < JavaMan22> but i cant open the .gz one
02:57 < JavaMan22> i told you that
02:57 < DerPapst> the ZIP files
02:57 < DerPapst> and in WINDOWS
02:57 < JavaMan22> but but
02:57 < JavaMan22> there is no zip for podzilla2
02:57 < JavaMan22> except for appearances and modules
02:58 < JavaMan22> i have the zip for appearances and modules tho
02:58 < DerPapst> what browser are you using?
02:58 < JavaMan22> ie
02:58 < DerPapst> mkay
02:58 < DerPapst> then try to extract the podtilla2-NNNN.gz file in windows
02:58 < JavaMan22> i told you i couldnt
02:59 < DerPapst> the redownload and try again
02:59 < JavaMan22> i did
02:59 < JavaMan22> i also tryed downloading other version
02:59 < JavaMan22> but they all failed
02:59 < DerPapst> if that still doesn'T work maybe it alredy is extracted
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02:59 < JavaMan22> ?
03:00 < JavaMan22> i got an idea 
03:00 < JavaMan22> ill save target as a .txt
03:00 < DerPapst> maybe ie has extracted it already without asking.
03:00 < JavaMan22> then change the ext
03:01 < JavaMan22> nope
03:01 < JavaMan22> didnt work
03:01 < DerPapst> then it is maybe already extracted.
03:02 < JavaMan22> argh
03:02 < JavaMan22> ill get firefox
03:02 < DerPapst> ok. its alredy 4am
03:02 < DerPapst> i need some sleep now
03:02 < JavaMan22> :o
03:03 < DerPapst> you can continue the installation tomorrow
03:03 < JavaMan22> ok have some good sleep
03:03 < DerPapst> thanks
03:03 < JavaMan22> i will try some more
03:03 < DerPapst> good night @ all
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16:59 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> hey
16:59 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> can anyone help fix my ipod
17:00 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> ANYBODY!?
17:00 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> -.-
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17:01 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> can anybody
17:01 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> answer a few questions
17:01 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> omfg
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17:04 < JavaMan22> i got ipl on my ipod now :D
17:04 < JavaMan22> hurray
17:04 < JavaMan22> :D
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17:09 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> HELLO
17:13 < EyesOnMe[TechWiz> s
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17:15 < DataGhost> techwiz and he can't fix his iPod? :o
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17:38 < BHSPitMonkey> it's really hard to believe that episode before lasted only 2 minutes.
17:50 < DataGhost> which?
17:50 < DataGhost> oh you mean the techwiz guy? :)
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17:51 < DataGhost> either my NTP is off or yours is (probably mine) but it was 17:59:45 - 18:02:10 here :)
17:51 < DataGhost> but yes I get the idea :P
17:51 < DataGhost> synch!
17:51 < DataGhost> hm
17:51 < fxb> GMT+1 ?
17:52 < DataGhost> yes :)
17:52 < DataGhost> it wasn't very much off
17:52 < fxb> i'm sure i have the right time
17:52 < DataGhost> but ah well
17:52 < fxb> ah, seconds... :D
17:52 < DataGhost> :)
17:53 < DataGhost> anyway, i'm going to make my pizza :)
17:53 < fxb> mmhmhh
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19:14 < DerPapst_> good morining
19:14 < DerPapst_> -i
19:14 < DataGhost> lo
19:14 < fxb> hi
19:17 < DerPapst_> was this JavaMan dude already here?
19:19 < fxb> yeah
19:19 < fxb> no
19:19 < DerPapst_> if not i should hide myself...
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19:19 < fxb> ups, he was.
19:19 < fxb> lol
19:20 < fxb> he was there for a minute.
19:20 < fxb> [18:03] <JavaMan22> i got ipl on my ipod now :D
19:20 < epoPehT> ahh finally.
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19:37 < DerPapst> do you hear that?
19:39 < fxb> hear waht?
19:39 < DerPapst> ah.. nevermind
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20:01 < DataGhost> :)
20:02 < DerPapst> :D
20:02 < BleuLlama> :o
20:03 < DataGhost> :?
20:03 < DerPapst> :')
20:04 < DataGhost> really nice to see all those people with their brand-new hd-dvd player
20:04 < DataGhost> brand-new computer
20:04 < DataGhost> vista
20:04 < DataGhost> HD-ready monitor
20:04 < DataGhost> yet they can't play that HD-DVD at all :D
20:04 < DataGhost> and I can, using an illegal HD-DVD
20:04 < DataGhost> this might just be the biggest fiasco ever :)
20:04 < DerPapst> ?
20:04 < DataGhost> well DerPapst
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20:05 < DataGhost> until now, there is _NO_ hardware which can play HD-DVDs without limitations
20:05 < DataGhost> it *should* 'just' downgrade the signal.. but for example vista just refuses to show anything at all :P
20:05 < DataGhost> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html read that if you want a laugh :P
20:06 < DerPapst> thats a lot of text...
20:06 < DataGhost> apart from my monitor not being HD-ready, my PC is too slow to display a HD-DVD though
20:06 < DataGhost> but I can play them on my laptop :)
20:07 < DerPapst> heh
20:09 < DerPapst> i don't care. my pc is even to old to display any HD content... and i don't buy new hardware in the next 2 years i guess :P
20:10 < DataGhost> heh
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20:30 < deameyes> hey wonder if anyone ever had this thought; can't someone just swap the flash chips from a new nano onto the old ones if they wanted an 8gb ipodnano with linux?
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20:35 < deameyes> or do flashdrives differ too between the ipods?
20:35 < BleuLlama> it's not a flash drive in there.  it's a flash IC chip
20:35 < BleuLlama> and they most likely have different pinouts, not to mention that the firmware doesn;t know to expect 8gb
20:36 < deameyes> so chances are just swappin the chips isn't a good idea?
20:36 < BleuLlama> it's a horrible idea that would result with two broken nanos
20:37 < BleuLlama> it would be like pulling a G4 cpu and dropping it into a PC to try to get MacOS 9 to run
20:38 < deameyes> I just figured you can take a computer with a 5gb harddrive and replace it with a 10gb one
20:38 < BleuLlama> but its' not a drive.  it's chips soldered to the motherboard
20:38 < BleuLlama> it'd be like pulling the platters out of the 10gb drive and trying to shove them into the 5gb
20:39 < BleuLlama> even if you could get it to work, the controller board in the hard drive wouldn't know what to do
20:39 < deameyes> fair enough, guess I'll just stick with getting a usb hostbridge and moving things on sd's onto the ipod and deleting them as needed
20:46 < DataGhost> time for icecream :9
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21:19 < DerPapst> ,,,,,,,
21:19 < DerPapst> ^ ignore
21:20 < DerPapst> i've just tried to kill my keyboard
21:20 < fxb> why?
21:21 < DerPapst> wasser auf die tastatur gekippt :P
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21:56 < DataGhost> "When it says to extract the userland to sdX3, what exactly IS the userland? Is it the files including 'bin', 'dev', 'etc', or is it the 'usr' folder only?"
21:56 < DataGhost> ^^ fail
21:57 < DerPapst> lol
21:57 < DerPapst> forum post?
21:57 < DataGhost> that thread is really starting to drop below zero
21:57 < DataGhost> in average clue
21:57 < DataGhost> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22199&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105
21:57 < DataGhost> and eh.. someone replied to his post :X
21:58 < DataGhost> but at least he figured it out a bit
21:58 < DerPapst> heh
21:58 < DerPapst> a lot of them tried to extract it in windows with winzip/rar
21:59 < DerPapst> all i say is "symbolic link"
21:59 < DataGhost> heh indeed :P
21:59 < DataGhost> I don't even know what happens then
21:59 < DataGhost> last time I had a tarball with symlinks in windows was probably when I needed to edit the files in there
21:59 < DataGhost> and didn't care about the symlinks :P
22:00 < DerPapst> it just says that it can't extract them
22:00 < DataGhost> indeed, I just figured that out :P
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22:45 < DataGhost> hm
22:45 < DataGhost> wait a second
22:45 < DataGhost> my monitor can display 1080p!
22:45 < DataGhost> I just forgot :D
22:46 < HardDisk_WP> hi
22:46 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, what? ipod outputs HDTV? oO
22:46 < DataGhost> no, lol
22:46 < DataGhost> but my laptop does
22:46 < DataGhost> both cpu cores at 100% but it works
22:47 < DataGhost> anyway, I'm going to plug this monitor in my laptop now
22:47 < DataGhost> since that's the only machine fast enough to display that movie
22:47 < DataGhost> so I won't respond :)
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22:52 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, :p good night...have to take some sleep
22:52 < doodles_69> hey, last weekend i was on here asking about displaying grayscale colors on color ipods and what the RGB values should be.
22:53 < doodles_69> And we decided it would probably be R=G=B=a    or     R=B=a and G=2a
22:54 < doodles_69> It turns out neither of these work perfectly when the backlight is on (which ultimately is what matters)
22:54 < josh> Here's the formula Hotdog uses...
22:55 < josh> gray = B/8 + G/2 + G/8 + R/4
22:55 < doodles_69> I think that is slightly different though
22:55 < doodles_69> I think that is to generate a 2-bit color for grayscale ipods
22:55 < josh> It's to generate an 8-bit grayscale color
22:55 < josh> (which is then scaled down to 2-bit)
22:56 < doodles_69> OK but I'm trying to generate a grayscale color on color iPods.  Does the relationship implied in the equation apply?
22:56 < doodles_69> e.g. set Green to 5/8, Blue to 1/8 and Red to 1/4
22:56 < doodles_69> e.g. G=5a, B=1a, R=2a
22:56 < josh> Maybe it's not so useful...
22:56 < josh> It holds for R=G=B too.
22:56 < josh> (a/8  + a/2 + a/8 + a/4 == a)
22:58 < doodles_69> I guess ultimately I just wonder how people get images to look at the right color on their iPods.  I would usually expect if R=G=B then the display will be grayscale
22:58 < doodles_69> And the LCD manufacturer would calibrate the intensities of R, G and B to achieve that
22:58 < doodles_69> But maybe we need to apply a transfer function to get the right values
22:59 < josh> The Apple LCDs have rather steep gamma, if I remember right.
22:59 < josh> Someone might have the values on hand. I don't.
22:59 < doodles_69> Is that what gamma is for?
22:59 < josh> Yes.
23:00 < doodles_69> Oh OK, great.  I'll wiki that!
23:00 < doodles_69> I guess each model might have a different gamma too
23:01 < doodles_69> Thanks Josh.  I gotta be going but this should hopefully lead me in the right direction.
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23:21 < JavaMan22> derpapst!
23:21 < JavaMan22> i got ipl now :D
23:21 < JavaMan22> but i have a few problems
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23:22 < JavaMan22> when i do something like save a stopwatch time in apple os and then restart ipod, its not there anymore
23:22 < JavaMan22> everything isnt saving in apple os
23:22 < JavaMan22> but i can still put music in
23:27 < jchillerup> you have to save your "time takings" in Apple OS
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23:30 < DerPapst> i have the same problem. just tested it.
23:30 < DerPapst> don't know whats wrong.
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23:57 < DataGhost> woohoo
23:57 < DataGhost> I just thought of a guide
23:57 < DataGhost> How to code Microsoft Windows
23:58 < DerPapst> heh
23:58 < DerPapst> let me guess
23:58 < DerPapst> while(0) {do_random_stuff();]
23:59 < DataGhost> Step 1: Set up a priority-model which allows for a process with normal priority, when starting some sort of infinite loop, to slow down the _ENTIRE_ interface AND take priority over a higher-priority process, effectively causing a very patient user to need 22 minutes to terminate the process from an already running taskmanager in high priority
23:59 < DerPapst> err.. i mean while(1)
23:59 < DataGhost> Step 2: Sell
23:59 < DerPapst> heh
23:59 < DataGhost> it took me 5 minutes to move the mouse
23:59 < DataGhost> 5 minutes to select the process from the tasklist
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