--- Log opened Mon Jan 22 00:00:05 2007 00:01 < wehttaMB> if piezo maker can play stuff to the pizeo can songs be played to it 00:01 < wehttaMB> that would be awesome 00:01 < DataGhost> don't expect anything from a piezo 00:01 < kick52> not really 00:01 < DataGhost> it can just beep at a few frequencies 00:01 < wehttaMB> ok 00:01 < wehttaMB> i love piezo maker 00:02 < DerPapst> and only monophone stuff 00:02 < DataGhost> yeah, like those old-cellphone ringtones 00:02 < wehttaMB> yea 00:04 -!- wehttaMB [n=wehttaMB@CPE-124-184-227-101.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 00:05 < DataGhost> DerPapst have you tried the loader already? 00:05 < DataGhost> oh also, the last line you get before you need to press a key... dt=1 means 5.5G 80GB (well, actually.. no odd reads), dt=0 means other (well, actually.. odd reads) :) 00:06 < DataGhost> Mac OS X 00:06 < DataGhost> Preparing installation... 00:06 < DataGhost> :) 00:06 < DerPapst> i'll try it in a second.... 00:06 < DataGhost> Software License Agreement 'Enjoy!' :) 00:06 * DataGhost accepts 00:07 < kick52> being illegal, eh? 00:07 * kick52 reports DataGhost 00:07 < DataGhost> hey, how can I test it for macpods then :( 00:09 < DerPapst> he's doing it only for testing. if he likes it he 00:09 < DerPapst> ''ll buy a mac :P 00:09 < DataGhost> no i'm not buying a mac 00:09 < DataGhost> I'm eating crisps 00:09 < DataGhost> there are nice cards in the bag 00:09 < DataGhost> with a code on them 00:09 < DataGhost> I can play a game for each bag of crisps 00:09 < DataGhost> and if I make it to the top 4 by the end of the day, I'll win a macbook :) 00:09 < DataGhost> every day in january/february :) 00:10 < DerPapst> hehe.. how much do you have to eat of them? 00:10 < DerPapst> a million? 00:11 < DataGhost> nah 00:11 < DataGhost> I just need to get some skill at the game 00:11 < DataGhost> for every bag of crisps I eat I can play once 00:11 < DataGhost> and since my parents own a company, they can buy those big boxes with loads of little bags in them 00:11 < DerPapst> ah ok 00:11 < DataGhost> each bag has a code 00:11 < DataGhost> :) 00:12 < DerPapst> compiling went fine.. so far so good :) 00:12 < DataGhost> :) 00:12 < DataGhost> *smoke* 00:12 < DerPapst> i can test it on my 3g tomorrow 00:12 < DataGhost> ok 00:12 < DerPapst> but now i don't have access to the backup 00:13 < DataGhost> well I've got it working on my 5.5G and my 4G, so I'm guessing other targets will work just fine 00:13 < DataGhost> according to what I've changed, it should 00:13 < DerPapst> heh.. 1.4 kb bigger 00:13 < DataGhost> and I've added a few extra functions :P 00:14 < DataGhost> which are obsolete 00:14 < DerPapst> which are? 00:14 < DataGhost> well, the press-any-key-to-reboot-or-go-to-diskmode-or-continue one for example 00:14 * DerPapst wants to see a scroll function 00:14 < DataGhost> hehe 00:14 < DataGhost> well that's why I made that press-blabla function :P 00:14 < DerPapst> the display of my 3G is too tiny 00:15 < DerPapst> or i have too many entries 00:15 < DerPapst> :) 00:15 < DataGhost> heh 00:15 < DerPapst> there are some loaders floating arrung with a scroll function... 00:15 < DataGhost> pf 00:15 < DataGhost> they'd have to be huge, at least in memory usage :/ 00:16 < DataGhost> you mean the debugging-text scrolling, right? 00:16 < DerPapst> no in the menu where you can select AppleOS iPL rb diskmode, ... 00:16 < DataGhost> :/ 00:16 < DataGhost> that already works? 00:17 < DataGhost> at least in my loader 00:17 < DerPapst> ome one has made it... 00:17 < DerPapst> *some 00:17 < DataGhost> well, maybe it just doesn't work on 3G :P 00:17 < DataGhost> but I can scroll through that menu on both of my iPods 00:18 < DerPapst> no i mean it you have eg 10 entries (different kernels or getloader2args-thingys) they ont fit on the screen..n 00:19 < DerPapst> i can scroll too to all my entries but the last one isn't visible anymore 00:19 < DataGhost> ah 00:19 < DataGhost> hm well I haven't tried that 00:19 < DerPapst> that there is something like a schrollbar ... 00:20 < DataGhost> I have 8 00:20 < DataGhost> :) 00:20 < DataGhost> 4 on my 4G 00:20 < DataGhost> so I never noticed :P 00:20 < DerPapst> if you have 10 on your 4G you'll see what i mean (that could be dummy entries too) 00:20 < DerPapst> bootloader is written :) 00:20 < DataGhost> it's charging now anyway 00:21 * DataGhost mounts 00:21 < DerPapst> can you chmod +x your iPL directory on your server? 00:23 < DataGhost> heh. that's weird indeed :) 00:23 < DataGhost> eh it's chmod +x :) 00:23 < DataGhost> you mean Options +Indexes? :) 00:23 < DerPapst> yes 00:23 < DerPapst> i get 403 if i try to access it 00:24 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54479edf.wfd85b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 00:25 < DerPapst> ahhh yes... "remove this code" 00:25 < DerPapst> your loader 2 is funny 00:26 < DataGhost> cleaned it up a bit 00:26 < DerPapst> it kinda fails... 00:26 < DataGhost> the ipl dir 00:26 < DataGhost> :P 00:26 < DataGhost> what fails? 00:26 < DerPapst> the laoder... 00:27 < DataGhost> interesting 00:27 < DataGhost> what does it (not) do? :) 00:27 < DerPapst> it says "Not a valid FAT Superblock" or something like this 00:28 < DataGhost> ok, what type of iPod, what does it say before you press a key, what does it say just before the 'not a valid fat superblock' (partition table dump) ? what is your partition table layout? :) 00:28 < DerPapst> iPod: 000b011 00:29 < DataGhost> oh well I don't know about those numbers 00:29 < DataGhost> loader2 just outputs that 00:29 < DataGhost> the 'human' name :P 00:29 < DerPapst> it detects the sizee correctly 00:31 < DataGhost> hm 00:31 < DataGhost> b011 is unknown 00:31 < DataGhost> the only one I know about is b0011 which is 5.5G? :) 00:31 < DerPapst> dt=1 is ok too... 00:31 < DataGhost> ah. yes. 00:31 < DataGhost> it's a winpod? 00:31 < DataGhost> wait. stupid. 00:31 < DataGhost> fat superblock.. must be a winpod then :) 00:31 < DerPapst> yes. it detected that too 00:32 < DataGhost> and at which sector does it start? 00:32 < DerPapst> meh.. that text is too fast for me... 00:32 * DerPapst grabbs hic camera 00:32 < DataGhost> well, in your partitiontable 00:32 < DataGhost> you could also add dg_presskey() at the end of the partitiontable stuff in vfs.c :) 00:33 < DerPapst> dg_presskey().. haha 00:33 < DataGhost> that's one of the to-be-removed functions :) 00:34 < DataGhost> that's the menu:diskmode... etc thingy, only without that text 00:36 < DerPapst> 0 252 fwfs 00:36 < DerPapst> 11 1285200 fat32 00:37 < DerPapst> Not valid FAT superblock 00:37 < DerPapst> 131 257040 ext2 00:37 < DerPapst> ext2fs NOT found 00:37 < DataGhost> hmmm 00:37 < DerPapst> 0 0 fwfs 00:38 -!- davidc___ is now known as davidc__ 00:38 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 00:38 < DerPapst> if you want to see the partition table /join #ipodlinux.flood 00:41 < DerPapst> i dont understand that output code... is the first number the startpoint of the partition and the last one where it ends? 00:41 < DataGhost> first number is the type 00:41 < DataGhost> second is startnumber 00:41 < DataGhost> but I'm looking for some code you have to add :P 00:41 < DerPapst> :) 00:43 < DerPapst> and maybe divide the second number by 4 id an ipod is detected with a sectorsize of 2048b/s. 00:43 < DataGhost> no 00:43 < DerPapst> s/id/if 00:43 < DataGhost> I already multiplied that 00:43 < DerPapst> ok... 00:43 < DataGhost> that's why it's showing you that 00:44 < DataGhost> soo go to the flood channel :P 00:47 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has quit [] 00:51 -!- EvilDude [n=prashant@60.227.89.93] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 < DataGhost> is it working DerPapst? :) 00:56 < DerPapst> i'm uploading right now... 00:56 < DataGhost> ok 00:58 < DerPapst> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/Loader (is availabe in 30seconds) 00:58 < DataGhost> ok 00:59 < DataGhost> it's not :P 00:59 < DerPapst> heh.. wrong adress :) http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/iPL/Loader/ 00:59 < DataGhost> ah ok :P 00:59 < DataGhost> ah so it was made using mkdosfs 01:00 < DataGhost> and not iTunes 01:00 < DataGhost> interesting 01:00 < DataGhost> strange that it doesn't detect ext2 though 01:00 < DataGhost> can you still mount that ext partition? 01:01 < DerPapst> i'm on windows atm.. so i can not. 01:01 < DerPapst> but i can try to install the kernel 01:01 < DerPapst> i mean replace the firmware 01:02 < DerPapst> btw. the lernel is placed on the fat partition but the loader isn't able to find it... 01:02 < DerPapst> *kernel 01:03 < DataGhost> ouch, it has a different sector size 01:03 < DataGhost> that's the problem I think 01:03 < DataGhost> I hope 01:03 < DataGhost> I'll have a look at the fat32 code 01:03 < DataGhost> actually, quite freaky that I can distinguish that from your header without looking at the fat32 spec 01:04 < DerPapst> :) 01:04 < DataGhost> it is reading a more-or-less valid header, though 01:04 < DataGhost> I just have to find out what the choking is all about :P 01:04 < DerPapst> does it make any difference to the loader if there is a ext2 or ext3 partiton on the iPod? 01:06 < DataGhost> no. wait.. I have modified partitiondumps 01:06 < DataGhost> can't compare them... 01:06 * DataGhost dumps a new, valid one 01:06 < DataGhost> and I don't know about that, it reads ext3 on mine 01:06 < DataGhost> ext3 should be just ext2+journal, actually 01:07 < DerPapst> mkay... and what is the problem with the header? 01:08 < DataGhost> I just dumped mine, comparing again... 01:10 < tanq> is there a config file that holds the contrast setting for podzilla? 01:10 < tanq> i pulled a nightly but my screen is dark. 01:10 < DerPapst> my fatpartition should be fine... apple_fw is happy with it. 01:10 < DataGhost> ah DerPapst 01:10 < DataGhost> you have 64kb clusters 01:10 < DataGhost> I have 16kb clusters 01:11 < tanq> nm i got it once the backlight came up.. 01:11 < DataGhost> you have 20 (32) sectors per cluster, I have 08 (8) 01:11 < DataGhost> maybe the loader doesn't understand that 01:11 < DataGhost> it's a very basic driver, after all 01:11 < DerPapst> hmm... 01:11 < DataGhost> now I'm going to look into the code 01:11 < DerPapst> how do you have ceated your fat partition? 01:11 < DataGhost> not 01:12 < DataGhost> :) 01:12 < DataGhost> I got it like this, it was created by iTunes 01:12 < DerPapst> err... 01:12 < DataGhost> on my 4G too 01:12 < DerPapst> so you have no ext3 partition at the momentß 01:12 < DerPapst> ? 01:12 < DataGhost> yes I have 01:12 < DataGhost> in the firmware partition 01:12 * DerPapst is confused 01:12 < DerPapst> ah. 01:12 < DataGhost> the firmware is only 7-15 MB 01:12 < DataGhost> that partition is 130MB 01:13 < DataGhost> :P 01:13 < DataGhost> well, 128 01:13 < DerPapst> ok 01:13 < DataGhost> I split it into 2x 64 01:13 < DerPapst> so you haven't touched the fat partiton 01:13 < DataGhost> no 01:13 < DataGhost> I'm just looking into the code and I'm not watching in the right place 01:14 < DataGhost> can you go to the flood chan again? 01:14 < DerPapst> sure 01:14 < DerPapst> i'm still there :) 01:14 < DataGhost> but with your eyes :P 01:14 < DerPapst> they are there too ;) 01:17 < DerPapst> why is there no eject command for windows :( 01:17 < DataGhost> heh 01:17 < DataGhost> there is 01:17 < DataGhost> if it sees the drive, you can rightclick on it and select 'eject' :) 01:18 < DataGhost> well, not on the commandline probably 01:18 < DataGhost> :P 01:19 < DerPapst> i don't think you need a screenshot. all lines are zeros. exept the last line. the 4 last digits are 55aa. 01:19 < DerPapst> s/exept/except 01:19 < DataGhost> that's what I needed to know 01:19 -!- Solo [i=solomon@av600.comex.ru] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:20 < DerPapst> that hexdump2 function is funny... 01:20 -!- EvilDude [n=prashant@60.227.89.93] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:20 < DataGhost> I forgot to put 'to be removed' around that, too :P 01:21 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:21 < DataGhost> it's funny and sometimes even very useful, but not on anything but 5G or better :P 01:21 < DerPapst> we should let it print out tons of lines to confuse newbies :) 01:21 < DataGhost> hehe 01:21 < DataGhost> it's slow, too:( 01:21 < DataGhost> anyway. 01:21 < DataGhost> if( getLE16(bpb+510) != 0xAA55 ) { 01:21 < DataGhost> mlc_printf("Not valid FAT superblock\n"); 01:21 < DataGhost> that's all I can find 01:21 < DataGhost> the only line that outputs that 01:21 < DataGhost> so for some reason it's not reading your disk correctly 01:21 < DataGhost> (and yes it should be reversed) 01:21 < DerPapst> odd 01:22 < DataGhost> indeed 01:22 < DataGhost> and it can't read odd.. so 01:22 < DataGhost> :P 01:22 < DerPapst> hehe 01:22 < tanq> what is the rockbox equiv to podzilla? or do they not have it abstracted to that level. 01:22 < DerPapst> podzilla == GUI 01:23 < DerPapst> rb has a gui 01:23 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@87.14.206.65] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:23 < DerPapst> what does that getLE16(bpb+510) thing do? 01:23 < tanq> yeah i thought rockbox.ipod was the gui.. 01:23 < tanq> i'm guessing not. 01:23 < DerPapst> rockbox.ipod == kernel + gui in one file 01:24 < tanq> ahh 01:24 < DataGhost> mlc_hexdump2(bpb+500, 12); 01:24 < DataGhost> can you add that to fat32.c DerPapst? right before the superblock thingy 01:25 < DataGhost> so, at line 419 probably :) 01:25 < DerPapst> yeah.. 01:26 < tanq> i noticed that podzilla, or at least the nightly, doesnt keep playing music if you hit menu to go mess with a setting or play a game. 01:26 < DataGhost> oh and maybe add a dg_presskey() after it 01:26 < DataGhost> and you can remove the other block with hexdump2 from vfs.c 01:26 < tanq> be back in a bit. 01:26 < DerPapst> i wonder about one comment: /* Sector multiplier is for 5.5G 80GB, which has 2048b sectors */ afaik can loader2 handle 2048b/s already. It works on 5.5G 30Gb iPod. they have 2048b/s too. 01:27 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has joined #ipodlinux 01:27 < DataGhost> oh, well 01:27 < DataGhost> it's because of the different way the 80GB addresses them 01:27 < DerPapst> ah. ok 01:27 < DataGhost> anyway, lucky mistake I just made 01:28 < DataGhost> or did you put the hexdump thing in vfs.c 01:28 < DataGhost> and not in ata2.c as I told you? 01:28 < DataGhost> because I actually meant vfs.c and I guess it would work in ata2.c aswell :P after line 146... in theory, if it wouldn't complain about the variable 01:28 < DerPapst> wait... 01:29 < DerPapst> where should i put this two lines in now? 01:29 < DataGhost> well, that doesn't really matter anyway, since it's working 01:29 < DataGhost> you should put those 2 lines in fat32.c, line 419 01:29 < DataGhost> right before that printf with the superblock 01:29 < DataGhost> and you can remove those other 4 lines because they are useless now 01:29 < DataGhost> those 4 you added before in (probably) vfs.c :) 01:30 < DerPapst> ok 01:33 < DerPapst> installing the loader 01:33 < DerPapst> usb 1.1 it too slow btw ;) 01:33 < DataGhost> same problem here, yes :P 01:33 < DataGhost> I had it hooked up to my laptop for a while 01:33 < DataGhost> but that's just finished installing osx at the moment 01:35 < DataGhost> it could also be detecting a 'valid' logblkmultiplier 01:36 < DataGhost> I forgot all about that one 01:36 < DataGhost> I'd better use that instead, too 01:36 < DerPapst> image is up and chmod +r'ed 01:37 < DataGhost> I see 01:37 < DataGhost> that's not very valid indeed 01:37 < DataGhost> could you send me your MBR? 01:37 < DataGhost> I may have found the cause 01:37 < DerPapst> uhh. nothing difficultier than that... 01:38 < DataGhost> nope, sorry :P 01:38 < DerPapst> hat to use dd on windows :) 01:38 < DerPapst> *have 01:38 < DataGhost> oh 01:38 < DataGhost> hm yes that's a pita hehe 01:41 < DerPapst> hmm.. that should do the trick: dd if='\\.\physicaldrive1' of=mbr_sector bs=2048 count=1 01:41 < DataGhost> well it's just 512b in any case 01:41 < DataGhost> but it doesn't matter :) 01:41 < DerPapst> o rly? i thoght one sector is 2048b 01:42 < DerPapst> mbr is up 01:42 < DerPapst> same dir where the pics are in 01:43 < DataGhost> mbr ends at bytes 510 and 511, which are 55 aa :) 01:43 < DerPapst> i have to correct my self.. mbr + 1536 noise 01:44 < DataGhost> ah, see 01:44 < DataGhost> you have 08 there 01:44 < DataGhost> i have 02 01:44 < DataGhost> so 01:44 < DataGhost> it should read your partitiontable correctly 01:44 < DataGhost> without my multiplier 01:44 < DataGhost> I need to add a check for that 01:44 < DataGhost> grr 01:45 < DerPapst> heh.. it's in vfs.c? 01:45 < DataGhost> lines 125-126 of vfs.c 01:45 < DataGhost> yes 01:45 < DerPapst> ok 01:45 < DerPapst> i'll kill'em 01:45 < DataGhost> heh 01:45 < DataGhost> you can just change it to 1 and it'll work 01:45 < DataGhost> I need to change them so it'll work on yours and mine using the same code :P 01:46 < DataGhost> too bad fat32_newfs and alike functions are void 01:46 < DerPapst> this is maybe the thing i meant 01:46 < DataGhost> so I'll have to write something myself 01:47 < DerPapst> because the loader should already handle 2048b/s correctly 01:47 < DataGhost> well 01:47 < DataGhost> it's that our partitiontables differ 01:48 < DataGhost> in yours there is 00 08 01:48 < DataGhost> which ors in to 8 and by 2 is 4 01:48 < DataGhost> which is valid 01:48 < DataGhost> so it multiplies the table by 4 _again_ 01:48 < DataGhost> on mine it's 02 00 01:48 < DataGhost> so I get 1 and no table 01:49 < DerPapst> odd 01:50 < DerPapst> we should make a post to collect some mbrs to see what is more common 01:50 < DataGhost> or I write a series of checks which makes it work correctly regardless of the MBR :P 01:51 < DerPapst> w000t 01:51 < DerPapst> it works :) 01:51 < DataGhost> :) 01:51 < DataGhost> apart from parsing your MBR everything should work indeed :P 01:51 < DataGhost> and I haven't noticed any slowdown by the way 01:51 < DataGhost> eh 01:51 < DataGhost> hm wait 01:52 < DerPapst> slow down in meaning of what? 01:52 < DataGhost> no, never mind 01:52 < DataGhost> in loading the kernel 01:52 < DerPapst> ah. 01:52 < DataGhost> it's slightly slower in my 5.5G than on my 4G 01:52 < DataGhost> but I haven't noticed a slowdown on my 4G 01:52 < DataGhost> but that doesn't do 1024b reads ofcourse 01:53 < DerPapst> 2:56 a magic time... 01:55 < DataGhost> heh? 01:55 < DataGhost> oh wait 01:55 < DataGhost> MY ntp is probably off 01:55 < DerPapst> uhh.. reading osos from the fw partition is slow as hell 01:55 < DataGhost> lol why are you doing that? 01:55 < DerPapst> testing :P 01:55 < DataGhost> use 'ramimg' instead of (hd0,0)/osos 01:55 < DataGhost> heh 01:56 < DataGhost> well that's about 5x the kernel, so yes it's slow :P 01:56 < DerPapst> to see whether subimages are working 01:56 < DerPapst> 80% 01:57 < DerPapst> heh.. it failed 01:57 < DataGhost> :o 02:03 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB1BA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 02:03 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB1BA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 02:03 < DerPapst> loading the kernel... 02:04 < DerPapst> that woked :) 02:04 < DerPapst> and loading rb works too. 02:04 < DataGhost> :) 02:05 * DerPapst plays 1D Tetris 02:09 < DerPapst> thanks for getting that to work :) 02:09 < DataGhost> hehe, NP 02:09 < DataGhost> I almost have a new vfs.c for you 02:10 < DataGhost> I just need to do ext3 and fat32 now 02:10 < DataGhost> fat32 is easiest 02:10 < DataGhost> ext3 looks somewhat more complex 02:10 < DerPapst> ok... 02:11 < tanq> ok i've asked in rockbox, but i'm sure the second I mention that i didn't follow their exact procedures noone will help.. so i'll ask here. 02:12 < tanq> i installed ipodlinux then downloaded the rockbox nightly. I then did mv rockbox.ipod linux.bin and unzip .rockbox to / as well. 02:12 < tanq> so rockbox starts fine, but it says "No .rockbox directory" 02:12 < tanq> any ideas? 02:13 < DerPapst> is / fat32 or ext2 or hfs+? 02:13 < tanq> ext2 02:13 < DerPapst> then move it to fat32 02:13 < tanq> i think it is because it is a hidden directory 02:13 < DerPapst> no. 02:13 < DerPapst> rochbox can't read ext2 partitions 02:13 < DerPapst> thats all 02:13 < tanq> move .rockbox to sdx2 with the music? 02:13 < DerPapst> it can only read fat32 02:14 < DerPapst> sure 02:14 < tanq> and symlink it to the sdx3? 02:14 < DerPapst> your music belongs to fat32 anyway 02:14 < tanq> danke 02:14 < DerPapst> afaik the userland has a symlink to /iPod_Control/ 02:15 < tanq> it does 02:15 < DerPapst> so i don't think you need another symlink then :) 02:15 < DerPapst> kein problem ;) 02:16 < DerPapst> and better move rockbox.ipod too 02:16 < tanq> well that works fine though. 02:17 < tanq> curious 02:19 < DerPapst> does it work all of a sudden? 02:20 < tanq> rockbox boots and the gui works, but it complains of no .rockbox directory 02:20 < tanq> so I can't do much, but navigate the menus 02:20 < tanq> so i'm going to symlink the .rockbox to the fat32 partition and see how it behaves 02:21 < DerPapst> and .rockbox is now on the fat32 partiton? 02:21 < tanq> i just unzipped nit.. 02:21 < tanq> gonna reboot and see if that helps 02:21 < DerPapst> as i said.. rb can ONLY read fat32 02:21 < DerPapst> so if you add a symlink rockbox doesn't care 02:21 < tanq> yeah i just thought about that. 02:21 < DerPapst> and if you have a million.. 02:22 < DerPapst> so move .rockbox and rockbox.ipod to the fat32 partition 02:22 < tanq> so how would i got about using ipodlinux and rockbox together? or is it not really possible without running everything on fat 02:23 < Soap> two great tastes which taste great together. 02:23 < DerPapst> uh? ipodlinux' rootfs is ext2/3 rockbox' rootfs is fat32 02:24 < DerPapst> if your ipod has both partitions they are happy 02:24 < Soap> put all your music on FAT32, and all will be well. 02:24 < tanq> all of my music is on fat32 already. then ipodlinux is on the ext2 partition. 02:25 < tanq> if i move rockbox to the asme partition as my music what will load it 02:25 < tanq> i guess i just modify /etc/rc to start it and all will be well 02:25 < DerPapst> to start what? 02:26 < Soap> Loader2 and rockbox's loader will both tripple boot. 02:26 < DerPapst> rb's loader is able to triple boot? 02:27 < Soap> yes 02:27 < Soap> trippple boot even ;) 02:28 < DerPapst> i didn't know that... 02:28 < tanq> oh cool.. the loader picked up rockbox 02:28 < tanq> that was easier than I thought. 02:28 < tanq> heh.. 02:28 < DerPapst> thats why you messed it up 02:29 < tanq> heh.. actually the player isnt working.. 02:29 < tanq> be back in a few 02:31 < DataGhost> vfs.c and vfs.h are in my opendir DerPapst 02:31 < DataGhost> mind giving them a try? 02:31 < DerPapst> mkay: 02:34 < DerPapst> installing the loade 02:34 < DataGhost> :) 02:35 < DerPapst> seemed to work 02:35 < DataGhost> \o/ 02:35 < DerPapst> it was able to read my configfile 02:35 < DataGhost> nice 02:35 < DerPapst> kernel works 02:35 < DataGhost> any errors? 02:35 < DataGhost> fat not found, ext2 not found.. ? 02:36 < DerPapst> not yet... i wasnt fast enogh with reading :P 02:36 < DataGhost> hehe 02:36 < DataGhost> you can add the keypress thingy at the end of vfs_init if you want 02:36 < DataGhost> presskey even.. heh 02:37 < DataGhost> why the heck did I come up with presskey when I seem to want to use keypress all the time.. :/ 02:38 < DerPapst> hehe 02:38 < DerPapst> change it :P 02:38 < DerPapst> ever programmed pascal? 02:38 < DataGhost> quite a lot, heh 02:38 < DerPapst> thats why 02:38 < DataGhost> hm? :p 02:38 < DerPapst> repeat until keypress 02:39 < DataGhost> oh 02:39 < DataGhost> no I have never coded anything like that 02:39 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 02:39 < DataGhost> and if I did it was just readln() or something 02:39 < DataGhost> :P 02:39 < DerPapst> heh 02:39 < DataGhost> but this one is repeat until keypress, yes :P 02:40 < DataGhost> do { } while (!(key = keypad_getkey())); 02:40 < DataGhost> it just seems more logical 02:40 < DerPapst> ah.. there is not really an error 02:40 < DataGhost> presskey is something the user needs to do 02:40 < DataGhost> and the developer needs to wait for a keypress 02:40 < DataGhost> :P 02:40 < DataGhost> nice :) 02:40 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 02:40 < DataGhost> so it's working \o/ 02:41 < DerPapst> err: did not find the image (talking of the subimage linx) 02:41 < DataGhost> it always does that 02:41 < DerPapst> so it is working :) 02:41 < DataGhost> or do you have a subimage like that? 02:41 < DerPapst> no 02:42 < DataGhost> well then :) 02:42 < DerPapst> ipodpatcher can't create subimages 02:42 < DataGhost> #if DEBUG 02:42 < DataGhost> mlc_printf("Err: did not find the image\n"); 02:42 < DataGhost> #endif 02:42 < DataGhost> :P 02:42 < DerPapst> if you convert your ipod to a macpod you can't use ipodpatcherf anymore btw 02:42 < DataGhost> why not? 02:43 < DataGhost> and can't i just dd the firmwarepartition back on there? 02:43 < DerPapst> it doesn't understand the mac partition table thingy 02:43 < DerPapst> you can use dd 02:43 < DataGhost> oh ok :) 02:44 < DerPapst> but with make_fw you will always create a corrupt fw partiton image 02:44 < DataGhost> well, as long as I can just test the loader :) 02:45 < DerPapst> either ipodpatcher need support for macpod or the make_fw untility has to be patched... otherwise all of the macpod 80GB owners are out of luck. 02:45 < DataGhost> that'll be something for tomorrow, though 02:46 < DerPapst> :) 02:46 < DerPapst> you mean today don't you? ;) 02:46 < DataGhost> same :P 02:46 < DerPapst> ok... i'm going to get some sleep now 02:46 < DerPapst> and thanks again. 02:47 < DerPapst> you did an awesome job :) 02:47 < DerPapst> you are going to be the hero of all 80GB owners :P 02:47 < DataGhost> heh 02:47 < DataGhost> stupid ($&#@(*mac 02:48 < DataGhost> i entered some password somewhere 02:48 < DerPapst> haha 02:48 < DataGhost> apparently my root password 02:48 < DataGhost> and what I recall to have entered doesn't work 02:48 < DataGhost> now I can't update iTunes, heh. 02:48 < DerPapst> so you don't have root rights now? 02:49 < DataGhost> yeah 02:49 < DataGhost> at least 02:49 < DerPapst> thats not soo good :) 02:49 < DataGhost> apparently 'asdf dasf' is the root user 02:49 < DataGhost> or something like that 02:49 < DerPapst> hehe 02:49 < DerPapst> ok 02:50 < DerPapst> then.. good luck with that. 02:50 * DerPapst walks way now 02:50 < DerPapst> good night 02:50 < DataGhost> nn 02:50 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB1BA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 03:02 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 03:02 -!- hhehw 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[n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:00 < Flub> i just hear sound on the right side 13:00 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has joined #ipodlinux 13:01 < DataGhost> and what type of connector is on your headphones? 13:01 < Flub> if i pull of the wire a lil bit.. it works .. but not very well. 13:01 < DataGhost> does it have 3 or 4 contacts? (2 or 3 'bars' between them?) 13:01 < DataGhost> if you pull off the wire.. 13:01 < Flub> its the normal input... 13:01 < Flub> ill look now.. 13:01 < DataGhost> you mean, you bend/twist the connector a bit? 13:01 < DataGhost> that sounds to me like a broken cable 13:02 < Flub> there two black stripes.. 13:02 < DataGhost> that's ok 13:02 < DataGhost> sounds like the cable is broken then 13:02 < Flub> no its just the right one ... 13:02 < DataGhost> does it work with other headphones? 13:02 < Flub> its totally new and on my computer they work 13:02 < DataGhost> oh 13:02 < Flub> no its the ipod 13:02 < DataGhost> then I don't know :) 13:02 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-180-79.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 13:02 < Flub> i want to ask how i can 13:02 < DataGhost> I have no clue 13:02 < Flub> look at the contacts... my ipod is opened in front of me 13:03 < DataGhost> maybe the iPod can't handle the impedance, but I guess it'd just be less loud 13:03 < Flub> but its closed ..at the headphone jack 13:03 < Flub> its just a bad contact... but ive no idea how i can get this. 13:11 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit ["leaving"] 13:15 < Flub> does noone know ? how i can handle it? 13:21 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:21 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has joined #ipodlinux 13:24 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-72-124.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ipodlinux 13:47 < Flub> bleullama? there? 13:52 -!- a1fasdf [n=a1fasdf@n098h059.wsr.mun.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 13:53 -!- debonzi is now known as debonzi_bbl 13:55 < a1fasdf> hey, im running XP, I have a 4gig 2nd generation mini that has podzilla2 installed on it, i used the 2.3 ipodlinux installer to put it on. my problem is that i can't seem to find my music when im in podzilla. is there a special module i need to install to have music support? 13:57 < a1fasdf> oh and im running the standard loader 14:14 -!- DerPapst [i=DerPapst@e06717.inf.tu-dresden.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:16 -!- a1fasdf [n=a1fasdf@n098h059.wsr.mun.ca] has quit [] 14:17 < DataGhost> hi DerPapst :) 14:17 < DerPapst> Hi 14:18 < DataGhost> oh! 14:18 < DataGhost> where did you get the non-svn loader2 again? 14:18 < DataGhost> I just made a diff with my code vs svn 14:18 < DerPapst> the one from tempel? 14:18 < DataGhost> but I still don't know what's different about svn and tempel's 14:18 < DataGhost> yes 14:19 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FD940.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:19 < DerPapst> there shouldn't be much difference because fxb checked in tempels changes... http://ipod.tempel.org/loader2/ 14:19 < DataGhost> lol timing 14:19 < fxb> haha 14:19 < DerPapst> wenn man vom teufel spricht ... 14:19 < fxb> :D 14:19 < DataGhost> ok i'll diff it a bit :) 14:19 < DataGhost> fxb like to test my new loader2?:P 14:20 < DataGhost> oh.. your 30GB.. is that 5G or 5.5G? 14:20 < fxb> 5G 14:20 < DerPapst> DataGhost have you alredy updated the tar ball? (vfs.c and vfs.h) 14:20 < DataGhost> yes 14:20 < DataGhost> well 14:20 < fxb> my brother has a 5.5G but he refuses to give it to me :D 14:20 < DataGhost> it's a new tarball actually :P 14:20 < DataGhost> hehe fxb 14:21 < DerPapst> hehe... 14:21 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/ipodloader-20070122-2.tar.bz2 http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/ipodloader-20070122-2.tar.bz2.md5 14:21 < DerPapst> ssems that he doesn't like iPL hm? 14:21 < DataGhost> or he's scared it's going to break probably :P 14:22 < DerPapst> maah.. he has a pro as brother who can fix the iPod in les than 10 seconds 14:22 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/loaderdg.bin http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/loaderdg.bin.md5 that should be the newest build 14:22 < DataGhost> from that -2 tarball 14:24 < Flub> damn. i opened my ipod and i wanted to look at the headphone jack ... 14:24 < Flub> as i built it in again... 14:25 < Flub> the hold is always on 14:25 < DerPapst> maybe the ribbon cable or the connector is damaged 14:26 < DataGhost> if( (buff[510] == 0x55) && (buff[511] == 0xAA) ) { 14:26 < DataGhost> that's actually something I didn't think of 14:26 < DataGhost> this means I can remove that extra function again :P 14:26 < DataGhost> I really need to read up on pointers 14:27 < DerPapst> that what i said all the time :D 14:27 < DataGhost> anyway, trivial mistake 14:27 < DerPapst> hehe :) 14:27 < Flub> damn... my ipod goes hold all the time... and if i touch the thing with the screwdriver 14:27 < Flub> its away 14:27 < DataGhost> for the rest, the code is basically the same as in SVN except for some naming/implementation differences 14:27 < DerPapst> hehe 14:27 < DataGhost> but it does the same thing 14:28 < DerPapst> DataGhost: Kasperle made a readabillity patch 14:28 < DataGhost> that's in SVN I guess? :) 14:28 < DerPapst> http://trac.ipodlinux.org/changeset/1381 14:28 < DerPapst> yep 14:29 < DataGhost> yes, that's exactly what diff is telling me, but reversed :) 14:29 < DataGhost> diff svn vs tempel instead of tempel vs svn :P 14:29 < DataGhost> I'd be better off defining a MBR-like struct for that block anyway 14:30 < DataGhost> i'd just need some useful info at 56-57, 0x100 and 510+511 14:30 < DataGhost> so that can fit nicely in the same struct :) 14:31 < DataGhost> books are stupid 14:31 < DataGhost> reading code is loads better 14:32 < DerPapst> hehe... 14:32 < DataGhost> loader2 managed to explain structs to me in a way so I now see a use (and usage) for them :) 14:32 < DerPapst> :) 14:35 < DerPapst> omg... the forum for Information Tecnology students form my university is insane.... 14:35 < DerPapst> one admin and no mods :) 14:36 < DerPapst> if you ask a question you get like 10 troll posts and then maybe a usefull reply :D 14:36 < DataGhost> lol 14:37 < DataGhost> if I even find such a thing I'd wait until I get to the 2nd year 14:37 < DataGhost> waaaaaaaaaay to many n00bs in my year now 14:38 < DataGhost> who still don't know they are going to fail 14:38 < DataGhost> and refuse to listen to other students (like me) when they are conviced about something and that student tries to point out they are wrong 14:39 < DataGhost> like 'a non-native resolution is better for your laptop screen and better for your eyes because it will have a higher refreshrate so less flicker and less headache' 14:39 < DerPapst> ouch 14:39 < DerPapst> that hurts :D 14:39 < DataGhost> that guy didn't actually say that literally 14:39 < DataGhost> he doesn't know what 'native' means ;/ 14:40 < DataGhost> oh by the way 14:40 < DataGhost> he's using 1280x1024 on a 1400x1050 screen 14:40 < DataGhost> so that's 5:4 on 4:3 14:40 < DataGhost> I didn't even start about that 14:40 < DerPapst> och again 14:43 < DataGhost> anyway 14:43 < DataGhost> I'll do a mac-format on my iPod tonight or tomorrow 14:43 < DataGhost> depending on whether or not my new 160GB 2,5" disk is finally being shipped today or not 14:43 < DataGhost> a full backup is the best/easiest/safest/fastest :) 14:44 < DerPapst> hehe... :) 14:44 < DataGhost> that should happen in less than an hour 14:44 < DataGhost> transferring my music with iTunes takes about 1,5-2 hours 14:44 < DerPapst> i bet there are some guys in the OSX forum who are willing to do a test 14:44 < DataGhost> I just hope the macpods don't use different firmware :P 14:44 < DataGhost> or I can't dd my working firmware on it 14:44 < DerPapst> nope 14:45 < DerPapst> it's the same 14:45 < DataGhost> nice :) 14:46 < DataGhost> hm 14:46 < DataGhost> that would be a 80GB file by the way 14:47 < DataGhost> let's doublecheck that reiserfs supports that and doesn't stop at 64GB or something like that 14:47 < DataGhost> :P 14:47 < DataGhost> 8 TB 14:47 < DataGhost> close enough 14:48 < DerPapst> 8TB.. thats not enough for me... 14:48 -!- yahya [n=yahya@59.181.103.4] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 < DerPapst> i have 2 20TB files on my fat26 partition 14:48 < DerPapst> *fat16 14:48 < yahya> anyone knows a good ARM emulator for linux 14:49 < DataGhost> lol 14:49 < DataGhost> I had that on a floppy when I was still in elementary school DerPapst :P 14:49 < DataGhost> found a hexeditor and started changing stuff :P 14:50 < DerPapst> yahya: there is a armemu in svn but i don'z know how good it is... http://trac.ipodlinux.org/browser/tools/armemu 14:50 < DataGhost> or at least something that looked like a hexeditor... I don't remember exactly :) 14:50 < DerPapst> hehe 14:50 < DerPapst> i love those nice 5 1/4'' disks :) 14:50 < DataGhost> hehe 14:53 < yahya> there few .c files 14:53 < yahya> what it does ? 14:56 < DerPapst> compile them and then you have a executable 14:57 < DataGhost> lol 14:57 < DataGhost> what do you need an ARM emulator for if you don't even know what .c files are :? 15:03 < DerPapst> DataGhost: if you have converted your ipod to a macpod please try out if the hfs+ driver needs work too. 15:04 < DataGhost> yes that's what I was going to try 15:04 < DataGhost> I'm not sure if it will see the mac partitions at all 15:04 < DataGhost> that code looks quite different 15:04 < DataGhost> and it's C++ 15:06 < DataGhost> I'm guessing it'll need the same modifications 15:07 < yahya> I compiled it 15:07 < yahya> it created three file 15:07 < yahya> app app.bin armemu 15:08 < yahya> what next ? 15:09 < yahya> hey this app.s is for arm ? 15:09 < yahya> is it ? 15:12 < DerPapst> DataGhost: The kernel works fine on 5.5G 30GB ipod which are also 2048b/s so i think it will work on the 80GB iPod quiet well 15:12 < DataGhost> you switched 30 and 80? or did you just test on a 30GB.. or what? 15:12 < DataGhost> :P 15:12 < DataGhost> oh the kernel 15:12 < DataGhost> well I actually meant the loader 15:13 < DerPapst> AriX has a 30GB iPod and he installed iPL on it and it worked well 15:13 < DataGhost> I only modified the code for winpods 15:13 < DataGhost> in parsing the partitiontable 15:13 < DerPapst> yep 15:13 < DerPapst> i was talking about the kernel :) 15:13 < DataGhost> ok :) 15:13 < DataGhost> I just need to see the loader work on an 80GB macpod 15:13 < DataGhost> I take it AriX has a macpod? 15:13 < DataGhost> looking at his guide 15:14 < DerPapst> yes but a 30GB 5.5G one 15:14 < DataGhost> that's good 15:14 < DerPapst> the guide is somewhat messy 15:14 < DataGhost> because for the 80GB I probably still need to modify the partitiontable code 15:14 < DataGhost> and it should still work on a 30GB :) 15:14 < DerPapst> why do you have to modify it? 15:15 < DataGhost> well because it's handled by a separate function, parsed in a totally different way 15:15 < DerPapst> ahhh... you are talking about the loader again ^^ 15:15 < DataGhost> and probably it'll have the same 15:15 < DataGhost> yes 15:15 < DataGhost> :P 15:15 < DataGhost> I just wonder if I can call a c function in a cc file 15:16 < DataGhost> hm 15:16 < DerPapst> hmm... dunno... 15:16 < DataGhost> or it's normal c 15:16 < DerPapst> try it out :) 15:16 < DataGhost> I think I mixed up cc and cpp 15:16 < DataGhost> and some previously unseen function declarations 15:16 < DataGhost> but I think it's still C actually :P 15:18 < DataGhost> it actually looks very much like normal C 15:18 < DataGhost> :P 15:29 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@105.33.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:29 < DerPapst> i g2g. operation system exercise in university. 15:29 < DerPapst> see you 15:29 -!- DerPapst [i=DerPapst@e06717.inf.tu-dresden.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 15:30 -!- Bi_noix is now known as Bi-noix 15:45 -!- yahya [n=yahya@59.181.103.4] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:54 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 16:01 < HardDisk_WP> 2007-01-22: Loader2 code fixed, it also works on the 'third' iPod now. The code has been submitted for review, testing can begin soon. 16:01 < HardDisk_WP> wooohooo! 16:07 < maquis> HardDisk_WP: what's the "third" ipod? 16:07 < HardDisk_WP> 80GB 16:07 < maquis> ah 16:08 * maquis sadly assumes the 30GB 5.5g FAT probably isn't working yet... 16:09 < DataGhost> you have a 30GB 5.5G winpod? 16:09 < DataGhost> well, linux won't detect your FAT partition but would you like to test my bootloader maquis? 16:10 < DataGhost> 30GB 5.5G is actually the only one I'm really worried about at the moment 16:10 < linuxstb> I thought the svn version of loader2 already worked with the 30GB 5.5g? 16:10 < DataGhost> I guess the others should work as they did but I have no idea about the 30GB 16:10 < DataGhost> yes but I updated the code so it works with the 80GB 16:10 < DataGhost> and updated it again so it should work with all models again 16:10 < DataGhost> that's what needs to be tested now :) 16:11 < BleuLlama> DataGhost #1 16:11 < DataGhost> thanks :) 16:12 < maquis> DataGhost: i might be able to when i get home from work... 16:13 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, which tools do I need for testing? (80gb winpod, debian) 16:13 < DataGhost> ok 16:13 < DataGhost> eh. ipodpatcher and the toolchain 16:13 < DataGhost> or the binary version of the loader 16:13 < maquis> DataGhost: i've just been waiting for ipodlinux to support my ipod... i didn't want to switch completely to HFS+ and become a macpod because i also use rockbox... 16:14 < DataGhost> oh, well I've only fixed the bootloader so far 16:14 < DataGhost> and linux will boot, but probably not detect your fat32 partition 16:14 < maquis> hmmm 16:14 < DataGhost> however I'm not sure about that on the 30GB 5.5G 16:14 < DataGhost> on the 80GB it doesn't detect that 16:14 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP hold on while I create a page with the latest source and binary versions of my loader 16:14 < HardDisk_WP> ok 16:15 < maquis> i'm afraid i don't fully understand what's causing the problems with detecting the fat partition... but i'm sure there's a good reason... 16:16 < DataGhost> there is, yes :P 16:19 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:19 < maquis> :) 16:23 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54479edf.wfd85b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 16:25 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/loader2/ 16:25 < DataGhost> quick n dirty page HardDisk_WP 16:26 < DataGhost> for some reason my server borks the md5 files though 16:26 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, where get the ipodpatcher? 16:26 < DataGhost> search the wiki for that, I think it was on the 5.5G page 16:26 < DataGhost> not sure 16:27 < HardDisk_WP> didnt you make your own version? 16:27 < DataGhost> no, derpapst did 16:27 < DataGhost> for writing a kernel instead of a loader 16:27 < DataGhost> but this just needs to write a loader 16:28 < DataGhost> so I guess the normal one should do 16:28 < DataGhost> oh. wait. 16:28 < DataGhost> it doesn't 16:28 < linuxstb> The official downloads of ipodpatcher don't have the "bin" options... 16:28 < DataGhost> hold on I'll find the binary :) 16:29 < HardDisk_WP> :) 16:33 < DataGhost> ok, page updated to include ipodpatcher 16:33 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, btw do you speak german? 16:33 < DataGhost> not really, I can read it though 16:37 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, okay, i executed ipodpatcher. what now? 16:37 < DataGhost> well, now you can reboot it and it should work 16:37 < DataGhost> you might want to put a kernel image somewhere 16:37 < DataGhost> if you haven't already done that 16:37 < DataGhost> else it should be able to at least boot the apple firmware 16:38 < HardDisk_WP> it rebooted automatically after plugging out of usb 16:38 < DataGhost> that's normal, yes :) 16:38 < DataGhost> do you see a menu? 16:38 < DataGhost> or a line of text with 'menu diskmode blahblah'? 16:38 < HardDisk_WP> ya 16:38 < DataGhost> ok niec 16:38 < DataGhost> what does the line before that say? 16:39 < DataGhost> 1 at the end? 16:39 < HardDisk_WP> find_trans: dt=1 16:39 < DataGhost> ok 16:39 < DataGhost> now press anything but menu or previous 16:39 < HardDisk_WP> what to boot ipod firmware? 16:39 < DataGhost> and you should get a menu 16:39 < HardDisk_WP> doesnt react, reboot 16:39 < DataGhost> hm? 16:40 < HardDisk_WP> I HADF LOCK ACTIVE 16:40 < DataGhost> lol 16:40 < HardDisk_WP> damn 16:40 < HardDisk_WP> <-- stupid 16:40 < HardDisk_WP> kewl, got menu 16:40 < HardDisk_WP> booting apple 16:40 < HardDisk_WP> nice, still workz. 16:41 < HardDisk_WP> ok. what to do now to get some software on it? 16:41 < DataGhost> great 16:41 < DataGhost> eh 16:41 < DataGhost> i'll put my linux image online too 16:41 < HardDisk_WP> nice 16:41 < HardDisk_WP> thx 16:41 < DataGhost> so you can put that on your fat32 partition 16:41 < HardDisk_WP> ok 16:41 < DataGhost> so it should at least boot, but it won't be usable 16:41 < HardDisk_WP> dont care 16:42 < HardDisk_WP> rofl, "Also, make sure your hold switch is off :) " 16:42 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has joined #ipodlinux 16:44 < DataGhost> page updated 16:45 < DataGhost> heh 16:45 < HardDisk_WP> ya 16:45 < HardDisk_WP> thx. 16:46 < linuxstb> DataGhost: Those instructions definitely won't work on macpods - ipodpatcher doesn't support them. 16:46 < DataGhost> I know 16:46 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, where to put the file? 16:46 < DataGhost> I am also quite sure that this entire loader won't work on 5.5G 80GB macpods linuxstb :) 16:46 < DataGhost> sicne I didn't modify any of that partition stuff 16:46 < DataGhost> I'm going to convert my iPod tomorrow, when I receive my new 160GB drive 16:47 < linuxstb> OK. It's just that your page says "These installation instructions will probably not work on macpods." 16:47 < DataGhost> oh yes, I'll remove probably and add an extra 'probably' line for the loader :P 16:47 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP "on your fat32 or ext3 partition." 16:47 < HardDisk_WP> somewhere? 16:48 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:48 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:48 < DataGhost> well, in the top folder 16:48 < DataGhost> just.. / 16:48 < HardDisk_WP> no need to rename? 16:48 < HardDisk_WP> ok 16:48 < DataGhost> as linux.bin :) 16:48 -!- davidc___ [n=davidc@71.237.88.8] has joined #ipodlinux 16:48 < DataGhost> fixed linuxstb :) 16:49 < linuxstb> DataGhost: s/ipodloader/ipodpatcher/ ? 16:49 < DataGhost> let's add a div for easy reading 16:49 < DataGhost> thanks linuxstb :) 16:50 < DataGhost> there we go 16:51 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 16:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 16:51 < HardDisk_WP> kernel panic: vfs: unable to mount root fs on 03:03 16:51 < DataGhost> nice, the kernel boots :) 16:51 < DataGhost> and you probably don't have an ext3 partition 16:52 < HardDisk_WP> yes 16:52 < DataGhost> if you create an ext3 partition as /dev/sda3 it should work and then complain about a userland (or if you have one, it'll boot :P) 16:52 < HardDisk_WP> how create one? 16:52 < DataGhost> you can use the wiki to accomplish that 16:52 < HardDisk_WP> ok 16:55 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, any way to do this without loosing all data? i dont have a backup place 16:56 < DataGhost> you could create the partition in the firmware partition 16:56 < DataGhost> so you'd have to make the firmware partition smaller and create an ext3 partition (as partition 3 (!!!!)) between the 2 partitions 16:57 < DataGhost> i suggest you stick to 64MB firmware 64MB ext3 (so cut the firmware partition in half) 16:58 < DataGhost> so if you just don't touch the fat32 partition you should not lose any data 16:58 < HardDisk_WP> ? 16:58 < DataGhost> I do recommend you backup your bootsector and firmware partition :) 16:58 < HardDisk_WP> i cant follow you... 16:58 < DataGhost> well, in fdisk you should see 2 partitions 16:58 < DataGhost> the first one is approx 128 MB 16:58 < DataGhost> delete that, create a new one which is smaller, make it the same type 16:58 < HardDisk_WP> my backup of it is ~125mb 16:58 < HardDisk_WP> ok 16:59 < DataGhost> then create an ext3 partition in between them 16:59 < DataGhost> write the table, create the ext partition and it should work 16:59 < HardDisk_WP> hold on some seconds, let me just copy a file 17:00 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-1b1ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 < HardDisk_WP> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 17:01 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde1 1 4 128394 0 Empty 17:01 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde2 5 2432 78011640 b W95 FAT32 17:02 < HardDisk_WP> this is the start. 17:02 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, how do i find out the type? btw, my firmware partition backup is ~ 125mb, how to fit it in 64? 17:03 < DataGhost> well, the type is 0 17:03 < DataGhost> and the firmware partition is smaller, actually 17:03 < DataGhost> anyway, the real data on it 17:03 < DataGhost> you should back it up with the backup command in the 5.5G instructions 17:03 < DataGhost> that'll give you a 15MB-backup 17:03 < HardDisk_WP> hmmm...or any way to resize the fat32 partition? 17:03 < Flub> is here anybody speaking german? 17:03 < HardDisk_WP> Flub, ja 17:03 < DataGhost> yes HardDisk_WP with parted, in theory.. but I haven't tried it yet 17:04 < DataGhost> anyway, if you use fdisk to change the partitions 17:04 < DataGhost> nothing will happen with the data on them 17:04 < Flub> hey? kannst du bitte mal ganz kurz #ipodlinux.de joinen du würdest mir nen riesen gefallen tun 17:04 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, windows defrag showed me that the end of the fat32 partition aint used 17:04 < DataGhost> so you can just make the firmware partition smaller 17:04 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:04 < DataGhost> and create an ext3 partition in the 'new' space 17:04 < DataGhost> because there probably isn't any data in there anyway 17:04 < DataGhost> but if you can manage to resize the fat32 partition, that's fine with me 17:04 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54479edf.wfd85b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 17:04 < DataGhost> in theory it should be possible with parted but I haven't tried it 17:05 < DataGhost> just make sure that whatever you do, the ext3 partition _MUST_ be /dev/sdX3 (note the 3) 17:05 < DataGhost> else it won't boot (it's hardcoded in the kernel) 17:06 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, ok. what id should i choose for dd if=/dev/diskX skip=252 count=30000 of=bootpartition.bin? 17:06 < DataGhost> /dev/sda probably 17:06 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde1 or /dev/sde2 or /dev/sde? 17:06 < DataGhost> I don't know what you 17:06 < DataGhost> sde then 17:06 < DataGhost> no numbers :) that's what the skip=252 is for 17:07 < DataGhost> and to restore it, you need to change the command as usual, but keep in mind that you must change 'skip' to 'seek' (see man dd for an explanation) 17:07 < HardDisk_WP> 30000+0 Datensätze ein 17:07 < HardDisk_WP> 30000+0 Datensätze aus 17:07 < HardDisk_WP> 15360000 Bytes (15 MB) kopiert, 1,44174 Sekunden, 10,7 MB/s 17:07 < HardDisk_WP> 15mb only? 17:07 < DataGhost> yes 17:07 < DataGhost> the apple firmware is only 7-8 MB 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, ok. anything further to do on the firmware? 17:08 < DataGhost> no, not really 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> ok... 17:08 < HardDisk_WP> how many space for the firmware and how many for the ipl? 17:09 < HardDisk_WP> eh if my table is Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 17:09 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde1 1 4 128394 0 Empty 17:09 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde2 5 2432 78011640 b W95 FAT32 17:10 < DataGhost> depends on what you want, I used 64MB twice 17:10 < HardDisk_WP> what id to choose for delete then? 17:10 < DataGhost> sde1, and recreate that including the typechange 17:10 < DataGhost> but if you're not comfortable with that I suggest you try parted 17:10 < DataGhost> it should be able to resize the fat32 partition, which will do the trick too 17:11 < DataGhost> but this is actually quite documented on the wiki, even in the 'normal' linux installation guide. 17:11 < DataGhost> the numbers are just slightly different 17:11 < HardDisk_WP> Warnung: Device /dev/sde has a logical sector size of 2048. Not all parts of GNU Parted support this at the moment, and the working code is HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL. 17:11 < HardDisk_WP> oh oh... 17:12 < DataGhost> heh 17:12 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, critical? 17:12 < DataGhost> when resizing your fat32 partition.. heh I guess so 17:12 < HardDisk_WP> dmnd 17:12 < DataGhost> I never tried it actually 17:13 < DataGhost> but if you can't figure it out from the wiki I recommend you just wait until "it's done" 17:13 < DataGhost> then there will be a nice installation guide etc 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde1 1 2 64134 83 Linux 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde2 5 2432 78011640 b W95 FAT32 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde3 3 4 64260 83 Linux 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> ok. 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> how to change the type? 17:14 < DataGhost> t 17:14 < DataGhost> (or press m for help) 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> k then it's Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 17:14 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde1 1 2 64134 0 Empty 17:15 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde2 5 2432 78011640 b W95 FAT32 17:15 < HardDisk_WP> /dev/sde3 3 4 64260 83 Linux 17:15 < HardDisk_WP> all ok so? 17:15 < DataGhost> yes 17:15 < DataGhost> but you shouldn't spam that in this channel 17:15 < HardDisk_WP> ok 17:15 < HardDisk_WP> now w, i assume? 17:15 < DataGhost> yes 17:15 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 17:16 < HardDisk_WP> ok. now replaying the firmware with dd if=iplboot.bin of=/dev/sde seek=252 17:16 < DataGhost> no 17:16 < DataGhost> you don't need to do that 17:16 < HardDisk_WP> ok 17:16 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, oh. the backup has 2.5mb only 17:17 < DataGhost> and you might want to explicitly specify bs=512 17:17 < DataGhost> what? 17:17 < HardDisk_WP> -rw-r--r-- 1 marco marco 54672 2007-01-22 17:28 loaderdg.bin 17:17 < HardDisk_WP> ARG 17:17 < HardDisk_WP> Konqueror fucked me up 17:17 < HardDisk_WP> Under windows all such data is refreshed live... 17:17 < HardDisk_WP> and so I saw a really old value. 17:18 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 17:18 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, so dd if=iplboot.bin of=/dev/sde bs=512? 17:18 < DataGhost> no 17:18 < DataGhost> bs=512 AND seek=252... but as I told you, you don't need to do that again 17:18 < DataGhost> the data is still there 17:18 < HardDisk_WP> ok 17:19 < DataGhost> you just have to create ext3 at /dev/sde3 now, put a userland on there and then it might work 17:19 < HardDisk_WP> ok 17:19 < HardDisk_WP> done 17:20 < HardDisk_WP> where 2 get userland? 17:22 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, userland from http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux#Userland_Installation, right? 17:23 < DataGhost> I guess so 17:23 < DataGhost> that's just standard info 17:24 < HardDisk_WP> ok 17:24 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit ["Bye !"] 17:28 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, my backlight doesnt light 17:31 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 17:31 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 17:31 < HardDisk_WP> and wheel lags some seconds, but otherwise linux on iPod is pretty cool. i only didnt try music. 17:32 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 17:38 -!- Manticore-3 [i=chanscan@88-109-184-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:42 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, what do i need to compile me all my stuff myself instead of asking you everytime? 17:42 -!- tehpwn [n=tehpwn@ppp-69-230-90-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:43 -!- tehpwn [n=tehpwn@ppp-69-230-90-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:43 -!- tehpwn [n=tehpwn@ppp-69-230-90-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:44 -!- tehpwn [n=tehpwn@ppp-69-230-90-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:45 < Drgb> arm compiler 17:45 < Drgb> (I suppose) 17:47 < HardDisk_WP> and some sources 17:49 -!- kfm82lin2s [n=kfm82@p54BEDF05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:54 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 -!- kfm82links [n=kfm82@p54BEFF83.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:07 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2FE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:07 < DerPapst_> boing 18:10 < HardDisk_WP> hi DerPapst_ 18:10 < DerPapst_> hi 18:11 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst_, /query 18:12 < DerPapst_> hm? 18:12 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 18:12 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst_, do you know where the config files of podzilla are? 18:13 < DerPapst_> i guess they are in /etc/rc for pz2 18:14 < DerPapst_> err.. only /etc/ :D 18:14 < HardDisk_WP> ok 18:16 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: maybe you can link on your loader2 page the userland that includes pz2 and modules 18:20 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@87.14.209.186] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:22 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:40 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 18:40 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 18:40 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host186-209-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 18:56 -!- espenhn [i=espen@overloaded.fasthost.no] has joined #ipodlinux 18:59 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@spc2-sout1-0-0-cust350.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:01 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@spc2-sout1-0-0-cust350.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:03 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-27-17.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:04 -!- Kurcz [n=na@d57-27-17.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:05 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:09 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: is http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/loaderdg.bin the latest version of your loader2 build? 19:20 < DataGhost> DerPapst_ afaik, yes 19:20 < DataGhost> loaderdg.bin 22-Jan-2007 11:49 19:20 < DataGhost> :) 19:21 < DerPapst_> ok... it seem that i haven't made a backup of my 3G.... 19:21 < DataGhost> built it this morning for godeater 19:21 < DerPapst_> i was a noob when i installed that :8 19:21 < DerPapst_> :( 19:21 < DataGhost> hehe 19:22 < DerPapst_> anyway... i don't want to restore... with a few tricks i think i'm able to "create" a backup :P 19:23 < DataGhost> but why should I link to a userland actually.. that can be figured out with the wiki, right? 19:23 < DataGhost> this is just to test if the loader works 19:23 < DerPapst_> yeah... ok 19:23 < DataGhost> userland instructions should be only for the 5.5G 80GB, which isn't really usable yet anyway 19:23 < DataGhost> I guess you already have one on your 3G, for example:) 19:23 < DerPapst_> but maybe link the podzilla bin and the modules :) 19:24 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@spc2-sout1-0-0-cust350.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:24 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@spc2-sout1-0-0-cust350.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:24 < DerPapst_> the userland on the wiki includes pz0 which doesn't work on 5G and 5.5G 19:26 < DerPapst_> woohoo... i have now a backup of my 3G :D 19:26 < DataGhost> :) 19:27 -!- debonzi_bbl [n=debonzi@200-171-180-79.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:30 < DerPapst_> let's do the make_f stuff ad then test... 19:32 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@spc2-sout1-0-0-cust350.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 < DerPapst_> i nearly can't read anything. the contrast is waaays too low. 19:34 < DataGhost> hm 19:34 < DataGhost> in the menu too? 19:34 < DataGhost> else you might want to set it in the configfile 19:34 < DataGhost> or remove that line from the init thing 19:35 < DataGhost> because I don't know what the default config value is... so I set contrast 100 19:35 < DataGhost> no clue what that means, though.. but it worked for me :P 19:35 < DataGhost> init thing = loader.c, line 629 19:36 < DerPapst_> i have a config file... but i still can't read anything. when is the configfile parsed? i guess after the lcd is initialized 19:36 < DataGhost> even after the partitiontable is read 19:36 < DataGhost> you can set the contrast in the configfile 19:36 < DataGhost> but I'm not sure what value is 'good' or whatever 19:36 < BleuLlama> i believe you can read the contrast out of the hardware 19:36 < DerPapst_> i've done that 19:36 < DataGhost> and it should set some default value 19:36 < DataGhost> you could also try moving the configfile so it'll use defaults 19:36 < DataGhost> that should work in the menu 19:37 < DerPapst_> btw.. how do i dhut rockbox off on a 3G? 19:37 < HardDisk_WP> damned 19:37 < HardDisk_WP> my iPod wont connect to my debian... 19:37 < HardDisk_WP> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7 19:37 < HardDisk_WP> usb 1-1: device not accepting address 7, error -110 19:37 < HardDisk_WP> dmesg full of that 19:37 < DerPapst_> ahh.. long play 19:37 < DataGhost> have you tried turning it off and on again? 19:38 < HardDisk_WP> both debian and iPod 19:38 < HardDisk_WP> this happened to me before also 19:38 < DerPapst_> ok.. the loader works on my 3G AppleOS ok, Linux ok, RockBox ok. 19:39 < DataGhost> :) 19:39 < DataGhost> contrast is ok in the menu or not? 19:39 < DataGhost> and what value are you using for contrast in the config? 19:39 < DerPapst_> no 19:40 < DerPapst_> um.. dunno but i gues something like +5 19:40 < DataGhost> lol 19:40 < DataGhost> anyway.. i'll remove that line and see if it makes a difference on my 5.5G 19:40 < DataGhost> I put that in there to get the LCD working at first 19:41 < DataGhost> I didn't remove it 'never change a winning team' 19:42 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@spc2-sout1-0-0-cust350.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [] 19:42 < DataGhost> oh 19:42 < DerPapst_> btw.. the default contrast value is according to the loader 2 wiki 0 19:42 < DataGhost> it seems to work fine without any contrast set 19:42 < DataGhost> heh. 19:42 < DerPapst_> on all color displays i think the contrast is ignored 19:42 < DerPapst_> i'ts only for mono lcds 19:43 < DataGhost> lol. 19:43 < DataGhost> it might be your screen too 19:43 < DataGhost> not every screen is the same with contrast settings etc 19:43 < DataGhost> it looks good on my 4G anyway, so I never notices 19:43 < DataGhost> s/s$/d/ 19:43 < HardDisk_WP> o_O(wtf is wrong with my iPod?! can't connect it anywhere...) 19:43 < DerPapst_> dunno. i need very high contrast settings in apple_fw too. 19:44 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:44 < DataGhost> I don't know HardDisk_WP 19:44 < DataGhost> is it in diskmode? 19:44 < HardDisk_WP> no 19:44 < HardDisk_WP> apple os 19:44 < HardDisk_WP> but i can still listen music 19:44 < DataGhost> and that does go to diskmode? 19:44 < HardDisk_WP> let me try 19:44 < DataGhost> when you plug in the cable, it should do something, right? 19:44 < HardDisk_WP> ah, now it works 19:44 < HardDisk_WP> fucking strange 19:44 < DataGhost> ........ 19:45 < HardDisk_WP> it happens from time to time. on windows, on debian, even on a Mac 19:45 < DataGhost> but it is detecting your config DerPapst_? 19:45 < DerPapst_> yes 19:45 < DataGhost> because it should apply the contrast no matter what 19:45 < DataGhost> but maybe it's because it's relative 19:45 < DerPapst_> hmm.. might be 19:46 < DataGhost> try commenting out that line 629 in loader.c 19:46 < DataGhost> that should do it 19:46 < DataGhost> looking at the code, it might be some weird 4bit, wrapping thing 19:46 < DataGhost> so values >64 are interpreted as negative 19:47 < DataGhost> and 100 + 5 would mean 105 = -41 or something 19:47 < DataGhost> because +5 is still seen as something relative 19:48 < DataGhost> probably 4G and up have different contrast handling.. or none at all (at least, in this manner) 19:49 < DataGhost> oh this is interesting 19:49 < DataGhost> on my 5.5G the default contrast is indeed 0 19:49 < DataGhost> on my 4G it's 103 19:49 < DataGhost> that would explain :P 19:49 < DerPapst_> apple biult come crappy displays into ipod <= 3G 19:49 < DerPapst_> thats all 19:50 < DataGhost> so, anyway, as long as you keep the value below 64, it should use a relative contrast so the defaults will work fine 19:50 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@44.11.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 19:50 < DerPapst_> the contrast depends on the temperature. 19:50 < DataGhost> i'll update my loader binary and add a comment for source-building people 19:50 < DataGhost> lol. 19:50 < DerPapst_> is this static void test_contrast (config_t *conf) somewhere calles? 19:51 < DerPapst_> *called 19:51 < DataGhost> yes, when you have some debugging level set 19:51 < DataGhost> in loader.c I believe 19:51 < DataGhost> right after parsing the configfile 19:51 < DerPapst_> ah. ok 19:51 < DataGhost> if (conf->debug & 16) { <-- that one 19:51 < HardDisk_WP> afk 19:51 < DataGhost> so it's read from your configfile 19:51 < DataGhost> which is convenient :) 19:52 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, btw, could you please put the sources from which you bild your stuff put onto internet? 19:52 < DerPapst_> which line is that? 19:52 < DataGhost> 685 DerPapst_ 19:52 < DataGhost> HardDisk_WP :? the sources are online? 19:56 -!- wehttaMB [n=wehttaMB@CPE-58-168-80-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 19:57 -!- wehttaMB [n=wehttaMB@CPE-58-168-80-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:03 < HardDisk_WP> DataGhost, i mean including your patches 20:03 < DerPapst_> they are online 20:03 < DerPapst_> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/loader2/ 20:03 < DataGhost> the tarball on that page already contains my patches 20:03 < HardDisk_WP> args 20:03 < HardDisk_WP> thx 20:03 < DataGhost> lol 20:03 -!- hw [n=benjamin@152-53.adsl.destination.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:04 < DataGhost> hm, no.. I removed the comments that had my nickname in it and put them in a separate file (my todo list) 20:04 < DataGhost> else you could have grepped for my nick 20:05 -!- caas0r [n=LMX@c-1b1ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 20:05 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-1b1ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:06 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:08 < DataGhost> hm DerPapst_ on my 4G, usable values go from about 64 to 127 20:08 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:08 < DataGhost> it stops at 127, i can JUST read that 20:08 < DataGhost> and 64 is a guess :P 20:08 < DataGhost> because it's invisible 20:08 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 20:09 < DerPapst_> ah. 20:09 < DataGhost> so that might explain it a bit if yours is 'calibrated' at 0 :) 20:09 < DataGhost> and uses the same range 20:09 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 20:10 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 20:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 20:11 < DataGhost> so anyway DerPapst_ 20:11 < DataGhost> yours is a 3G ...GB? :) 20:12 < DataGhost> (and have you tried the loader without the contrast setting already? either by compiling or by downloading the new binary off my loader page?) 20:14 < DerPapst_> it's a 40GB one 20:15 < DataGhost> ok 20:16 < DataGhost> I already put something on my loader page 20:16 < DataGhost> I think I'm going to move that to the wiki tonight 20:16 < DataGhost> 5.5G_Beta or something 20:16 < DerPapst_> one thought of the contrast thingy in the configfile... the default contrast is 100. if you add a contrast line to your loader.cfg with e.g. +5 it makes 100 +(+5) = 105. if you have -5 it would be 100 +(-5) 20:16 < DataGhost> to keep the 5.5G development stuff contained in there including specific testing instructions or something like that 20:17 < DataGhost> eh? 20:17 < DataGhost> why? 20:17 < DerPapst_> nah.. don't create a new wikipage for that 20:17 < DataGhost> +-5 = -5 -> 95 20:17 < DerPapst_> that was to show how it works 20:17 < DataGhost> Well, I figured it might be a mess in the existing 5.5G page.. or I could link to this one 20:17 < DataGhost> this one = the one on my server 20:18 < DataGhost> or it could be merged into svn :P 20:19 < DerPapst_> i already have wored out some instructions for the 5.5Gs 20:19 < DerPapst_> *worked 20:19 < DataGhost> ok 20:19 < DataGhost> well.. I guess it'd be ok to release this in public as soon as it's confirmed to be working on a 5.5G 80GB macpod 20:20 < DataGhost> it seems to be working except for a few trivial issues which are related to debugging code anyway 20:20 < DerPapst_> heh 20:22 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54479edf.wfd85b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 < DerPapst_> the instructions are here.. they are not finished and they are in wiki syntax. http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/iPL/5.5G_installation.txt 20:23 < DerPapst_> and they are outdated... 20:23 < DerPapst_> because ipodpatcher has now the -ab option :P 20:26 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@201-13-40-14.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 20:26 < DataGhost> yeah, heh :) 20:26 < DerPapst_> courtc: the frorm isn't working. 20:27 < DerPapst_> i think i'll update it some more. 20:27 < DataGhost> ouch 20:27 < DerPapst_> what? 20:27 < DataGhost> that looks like the same cronjob the guys at rockbox used 20:27 < DataGhost> "SQL Error : 1146 Table 'ipod_forum.CONFIG_TABLE' doesn't exist" 20:28 -!- ikill [n=xtheacad@c-71-230-92-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:28 < ikill> hey guys 20:28 < DataGhost> I even forgot all 'no such file or directory' errors 20:28 < ikill> yet again another problem 20:28 < DerPapst_> the wiki is still intact.. 20:28 < DataGhost> hm hopefully it's just a php upgrade or something 20:28 < DataGhost> which screwed up the inclusion path 20:28 < DerPapst_> so either it's a trivial problem... or not. 20:28 < DataGhost> :P 20:29 < DataGhost> or something's very broken :P 20:29 < DataGhost> but since the index page is still there I'd guess it's the inclusion path thingy 20:29 < DataGhost> and the config probably works with #defines or something 20:29 < DataGhost> CONFIG_TABLE looks like a constant to me 20:31 < DataGhost> it's probably the inclusion path thingy 20:31 < DataGhost> it does give some errors from a file within ./includes 20:31 < DataGhost> so that's not trashed afaik 20:31 < DataGhost> yet it can't include a file in that dir 20:33 < DataGhost> I'm not reading, really 20:33 < DataGhost> I just think of theories 20:33 < DataGhost> 'probably thats a constant it cant find because of a missing include' 20:33 < DataGhost> when I actually miss the filename 20:33 < DataGhost> 'constants.php' 20:34 < DerPapst_> i think it'll be fixed if a superuser walks by. 20:34 < DataGhost> yeah 20:36 < DerPapst_> hrhr.. Nikguy is kinda funny/confused :D 20:36 < DerPapst_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/User_talk:Der_Papst 20:46 < DataGhost> lol 20:48 -!- dethklok [n=tehpwn@ppp-69-230-90-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:48 < HardDisk_WP> n8 20:48 < dethklok> I can't get my iPod video to work with amarok, anybody willing to help? 20:49 < dethklok> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 (dapper) 20:49 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, amarok sucks with the G5.5 20:49 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, http://gtkpod.org 20:49 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, apt-get install gtkpod SHOULD work 20:49 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, if not, compile gtkpod and libgpod yourself 20:50 < HardDisk_WP> be careful, compile first!! libgpod! 20:50 < dethklok> I have gtkpod already installed, but I couldn't get it to work with that either, HardDisk_WP 20:50 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:50 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, use V.0.99. 20:50 < HardDisk_WP> this is the only one 20:50 < BleuLlama> this is kind of OT 20:50 < HardDisk_WP> <-- bed 20:51 < DataGhost> heh BleuLlama 20:51 < DataGhost> it's more like linux-iPod than iPodLinux :P 20:51 < dethklok> HardDisk_WP, apt-get installed v. 0.99.2 20:51 < BleuLlama> yep. his question is using an iPod with Linux on your desktop machine. 20:51 < BleuLlama> rather than running linux on your ipod 20:52 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, use 0.99.8 20:52 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, then convert all videos to .mp4 and this was it 20:52 < DataGhost> by the way DerPapst_ the forums are working again (if you hven't noticed yet) 20:52 < HardDisk_WP> ok, really gotta go now 20:52 < dethklok> HardDisk_WP, I don't even use the ipod for videos, just music 20:52 < HardDisk_WP> ok 20:52 < HardDisk_WP> as i said, use 0.99.8 20:52 < dethklok> can i use apt-get to update gtkpod? 20:52 < HardDisk_WP> no 20:53 < dethklok> how do i update it then? 20:53 < HardDisk_WP> dethklok, remove libgpod and gftkpod and compile yourself 20:53 < dethklok> eek, ok, thanks for the help 20:53 < dethklok> good night lol 20:54 -!- dethklok [n=tehpwn@ppp-69-230-90-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Konversation terminated!"] 20:56 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: do you have an unmodified mbr of your 5.5G? 20:56 < DataGhost> eh, more or less, yes 20:56 < DataGhost> I'm not sure about that logical blocksize 20:56 < DataGhost> but it's as normal as yours 20:56 < DataGhost> the apple OS can read the fat32 partition :) 20:57 < DerPapst_> ah... i need a mbr which isn't modiefied at all. (like if it is restored with iTunes) 21:01 < DataGhost> :o 21:01 < DataGhost> restore it with iTunes then :P 21:01 < DataGhost> anyway I'll have that tomorrow 21:01 < DataGhost> what do you need it for then? 21:02 < DerPapst_> to convert a MacPod to a WinPod without the posibillity to restore it with itunes on a PC 21:02 < DataGhost> ah :P 21:03 < DerPapst_> i'll ask GodEater. 21:03 < DerPapst_> maybe he has a backup :) 21:03 < DataGhost> why do you need a *completely* unmodified MBR by the way? 21:03 < DataGhost> I think I might have a backup actually 21:03 < DataGhost> I should have 21:03 < DataGhost> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Jan 9 15:51 bootsectorbackup 21:03 < DerPapst_> nice 21:03 < DataGhost> let's see 21:04 < DataGhost> order date: 8-1-2007 21:04 < DataGhost> that's the one allright :P 21:04 < DerPapst_> cool 21:04 < DerPapst_> can you upload it? 21:05 < DataGhost> http://dataghost.com/ipl/5.5G-80GB-original-winpod-bootsector.bin http://dataghost.com/ipl/5.5G-80GB-original-winpod-bootsector.bin.md5 21:05 < DerPapst_> thx :) 21:05 < DataGhost> ah 21:05 < DataGhost> 02 00 21:06 < DataGhost> and yours is 00 08 there 21:06 < DataGhost> so that wasn't changed 21:06 < DataGhost> by the way, I'm not 100% sure this was done by iTunes 21:06 < DataGhost> because this is how I got it from the factory :P 21:06 < DerPapst_> maybe after using fdisk and mkfs.vfat -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/sda2 21:07 < DataGhost> I guess after some fdisk, yes 21:07 < DataGhost> but it doesn't matter now with the new loader :) 21:07 < DataGhost> if it can happen, even by accident, the loader should understand it 21:07 < DataGhost> since it's valid according to apple 21:07 < DerPapst_> yep. luckily :) 21:10 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit ["Not that there is anything wrong with that"] 21:14 < DataGhost> woohoo, my first forum post I guess 21:14 < DataGhost> I did have an account 21:14 < DataGhost> around september 2005... according to my mailbox 21:14 < DataGhost> but it was gone 21:14 < DataGhost> so I don't know if I posted at all :P 21:16 < DataGhost> by the way DerPapst_ 21:16 < DataGhost> did you read Cleanser's signature? :P 21:16 < DataGhost> that guy in release announcements 21:16 < DerPapst_> wait.... 21:17 < DerPapst_> hehe 21:20 < DerPapst_> i don't feel like IM'ing him. 21:20 < DataGhost> hehe 21:20 < DataGhost> I modified my settings after finding out that they were set to 'accept IMs from anyone' 21:20 < DataGhost> and I removed my IM contact details from the rockbox forum immediately after that :P 21:21 < DerPapst_> hahaha 21:24 < DataGhost> I know what I like about Gathering of Tweakers again 21:24 < DataGhost> a HUGE moderating force and very strict rules about topictitles, topicstarts, problems, helprequests etc 21:24 < DataGhost> 'I need an answer please' -> probably a lock without reading the topic 21:25 < DerPapst_> hehe 21:25 < DataGhost> 'Ipod Linux Help!!!' -> same as above 21:26 < DerPapst_> luckily you aren't a mod then :P 21:28 -!- amiconn_ [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:28 -!- amiconn_ is now known as amiconn 21:28 < DataGhost> hehe indeed DerPapst_ 21:29 < DataGhost> ah well, they are just the topics that should be ignored :) 21:29 < DerPapst_> i ignore then 21:29 < DerPapst_> most of it is well documentated on the wiki 21:31 < DataGhost> yes indeed 21:32 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-65-221-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:33 < DataGhost> let's hope the mailman arrives early tomorrow 21:33 < DerPapst_> yep :) 21:33 < DataGhost> the earlier he gets here, the earlier I can test the loader on a macpod :) 21:33 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 < DataGhost> I've got a tracktrace number already :) 21:34 < deameyes> anyone know how to make a bash script that uses pflite by any chance? 21:34 < DataGhost> last package I received used this route DerPapst_: http://fast.dataghost.com/dompakje.png 21:34 < DataGhost> red flag = where I live 21:34 < DataGhost> that arrived within a day... and this one is leaving from 'Zwolle' so it MUST be here tomorrow :) 21:34 < deameyes> I tried 'run /bin/pflite; howdy' but that was unsuccessful 21:35 < DerPapst_> haha that's funny :D 21:36 < DataGhost> yeah, I was quite surprised actually 21:36 < DataGhost> I knew that every package (I've seen so far) goes through zwolle 21:36 < DataGhost> but I haven't seen it make that extra detour before :P 21:36 < DataGhost> deameyes sorry, I have no clue 21:36 < DerPapst_> this works for me 21:37 < DerPapst_> lol 21:37 < DataGhost> that pflite thing DerPapst_? 21:37 < DerPapst_> //flite "BlaBla" 21:37 < DataGhost> because I was going to comment that my logic sense dictates that bash will probably try to run the program 'howdy' after pflite is done 21:37 < DataGhost> ah. so my logic sense was right :D 21:38 < deameyes> hehe ok, so in run or a bash file ' /bin/pflite "howdy" '? 21:38 < DataGhost> I would guess so, yes 21:39 < deameyes> ok I'll try that now thanks 21:41 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54479edf.wfd85b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 21:42 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:44 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:44 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw3-fe13df00-222.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:44 < deameyes> that doesn't seem to work... 21:45 < DerPapst_> it wokrs for me 21:45 < deameyes> where did you get pflite from? 21:45 < deameyes> it'll open pflite, but won't say the stuff in quotes 21:45 < DerPapst_> and my english is perfect btw :D 21:46 < DerPapst_> i downloaded it ages ago.. i don't remember. 21:46 < deameyes> ah 21:46 < DerPapst_> the one i've downloaded has an exaple startcript which used flite 21:47 < deameyes> I should learn how to load data form a text file, seein as my end product is hopefully something to read directions on the road 21:50 < DataGhost> that's not so hard 21:50 < DataGhost> the easiest is to use grep with some sort of ID 21:50 < DataGhost> there are more sophisticated ways, though :P 21:50 < DataGhost> it's not exactly efficient 21:50 < deameyes> grep? 21:51 < DataGhost> yes 21:51 < DataGhost> if you make a file with like 21:51 < DataGhost> 1 go left 21:51 < DataGhost> 2 go right 21:51 < DataGhost> 3 crash into that tree 21:51 < DataGhost> you can do something like VAR=`grep 3 filename` 21:51 < DataGhost> and then $VAR will be "3 crash into that tree" 21:51 < DataGhost> a little bash magic and that 3 is gone and you can pflite $VAR 21:52 < DataGhost> :) 21:52 < DataGhost> but I can understand it if you want to use something using C or whatever :P 21:52 < DataGhost> I guess even bash has more advanced methods than this 21:52 -!- Kurcz [n=na@d57-27-17.home.cgocable.net] has quit [] 21:53 < deameyes> so I can make a file in podwrite like this? 21:53 < DataGhost> I don't see why not 21:53 < DataGhost> you will run into problems when you go over 9 or 10 lines, though 21:54 < DataGhost> using this basic method 21:54 < deameyes> fair enough 21:54 < DataGhost> but it's just to demonstrate that it doesn't really have to be hard 21:54 < deameyes> hehe my other idea would be to see if mapquest could be ported-course the pictures would have to be scrolled and such 21:55 < DataGhost> but it's very inefficient and a bitch to maintain.. at least the read is quite easy :P 21:55 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@44.11.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56 < deameyes> so I make the file with the 1... 2... 3... commands and then in run 'VAR= file; $VAR'? 21:59 < BleuLlama> you should really read up on what DataGhost showed you, get a good understanding of it, and perhaps walk through a bash howto on the web 22:00 < DataGhost> and especially watch the type of quotes you are using 22:01 < DataGhost> ' ' are for putting text in a variable, ` ` are for executing a command and putting whatever it returns in a variable 22:01 < deameyes> oh I use these ' just when showing quoted stuff 22:03 -!- kfm82lin2s is now known as kfm82links 22:03 -!- kfm82links is now known as kfm82 22:13 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit [] 22:26 < DataGhost> by the way, DerPapst_ 22:26 < DataGhost> did you try rebuilding the loader or did you use my new binary to test the contrast thingy? 22:26 < DerPapst_> neither nor. 22:26 < DataGhost> ok 22:26 < DerPapst_> i haven't tested it yet 22:27 < DataGhost> when you do, please let me know ofcourse :P 22:27 < DerPapst_> should i test t? 22:27 < DerPapst_> ok 22:27 < DataGhost> would be nice yes 22:27 < deameyes> oh and rpgmaker for gameboy isn't compatable for iboy as of now :D 22:28 < DataGhost> the binary is on that loader page if you need it, else you can edit loader.c and comment out the lcd_set_contrast(100); line 22:28 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 < DerPapst_> ok 22:28 < DerPapst_> i use the prebuild one 22:28 < DataGhost> ok 22:28 < DerPapst_> i don't have a compiler right now ;) 22:30 < DataGhost> hm 22:32 < DerPapst_> nothing has changed 22:33 < DataGhost> weird 22:33 < DataGhost> and if you set debug=16 in your config? 22:33 < DataGhost> you should get the contrast changing thingy after reading the partitions 22:33 < DerPapst_> i'll play around with the config but right now i can't access it. 22:33 < DataGhost> ok 22:34 < DerPapst_> it's on my ext2 partition and right now i use windows to scan some stuff ;) 22:35 < DerPapst_> maybe its a bit better.. but maybe the temperature in my room is different that before.. 22:35 < DataGhost> well, when you're done with that stuff you don't even have to attach it to a linux box 22:35 < DataGhost> ipodloader.conf is loaded from the fat32 partition first 22:35 < DataGhost> other configs are ignored 22:35 < DerPapst_> ah.. ok 22:36 < DerPapst_> meh.. then i have to remember the config file ^^ 22:36 < DataGhost> hehe 22:36 < DataGhost> can't wait until tomorrow, heh. 22:37 < DataGhost> I think I'll just go to sleep around 12, if I see no interesting things delaying my going-to-bed :) 22:38 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:45 < DataGhost> I might aswell remove my dvd-drive from my laptop now 22:45 < DataGhost> really can't wait until I get that harddrive :P 22:46 < DerPapst_> how much did you pay for it? 22:46 < DataGhost> 130 euro 22:46 < DataGhost> for 160GB 2,5" 22:46 < DerPapst_> sounds fair 22:46 < DataGhost> and 320 for 2x 500 3,5" 22:46 < DataGhost> yeah 22:47 < DataGhost> thing is, I can put that drive in place of my dvd-drive so I can have 2 drives in my laptop at the same time (=260 GB) 22:47 < DataGhost> I received that cradle 2 weeks ago 22:47 < DataGhost> very frustrating to have to wait for the rest to arrive :P 22:47 < DerPapst_> hehe.. a laptop with 260GB biult in :D thats insane 22:48 < DataGhost> :P 22:48 < DataGhost> even better: I figured out that it uses regular S-ATA connectors 22:48 < deameyes> I just want a smaller laptop 22:48 < DataGhost> so if I can find S-ATA data and power male -> female I can attach any 3,5" S-ATA drive :P 22:48 < DataGhost> twice, 22:49 < DerPapst_> nice a laptop with 1TB+ bilt in... 22:51 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/Afb.090.jpg http://de.dataghost.com/Afb.091.jpg http://de.dataghost.com/Afb.092.jpg that's the thing with my 100GB drive 22:52 < DataGhost> I actually felt quite stupid too, when I realized that 2,5" drives are just as standardized as 3,5" drives 22:52 < DataGhost> I thought I had to buy a drive from IBM 22:52 < DataGhost> 400 euros for a 160GB model or something like that 22:53 < DataGhost> really amazing what they dare to ask for a normal hitachi drive 22:53 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:53 < deameyes> what exactly does the c++ standard library do? I'm readin the wiki but still clueless 22:53 < DataGhost> hm deameyes, I don't need to worry about that enough to know _EXACTLY_ what it is/does 22:53 < DerPapst_> it eats up your ipods ram 22:54 < DataGhost> but I think it supplies you with a load of basic functions 22:54 < deameyes> so...does it run c++ apps then? 22:54 < DataGhost> I think it will help you compile them in the first place :P 22:55 < DataGhost> or I must be very wrong 22:55 < deameyes> so it will compile c++ apps?? 22:55 < DerPapst_> no 22:55 < DerPapst_> it isn't a compiler 22:57 -!- Flub [n=d@p54A087D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:58 < DataGhost> 'Hamburg to ban chewing gum' :o 22:58 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit ["Bye !"] 22:59 < DerPapst_> hm? mo more chewing gum in hamburg? 22:59 < DataGhost> I don't know 22:59 < DataGhost> fok.nl (dutch site) is terribly slow 22:59 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:59 < DataGhost> as always 22:59 < DataGhost> some people say it's hosted on a 486 machine 22:59 < DataGhost> some people say hyves.net is hosted on the same machine 22:59 < DataGhost> :P 22:59 < DerPapst_> we should ask fxb :) he lives there 23:00 < DataGhost> to give you an indication of the speed 23:00 < DataGhost> 1:50 minutes now and the page is not yet fully loaded 23:00 < DerPapst_> hehe 23:00 < DataGhost> ah.. they just stopped selling it 23:00 < DataGhost> and they will pay more attention to spitting people... fines up to 10 euros 23:00 < DataGhost> I can buy a box with 24 packs of sportlife for 10 euros :o 23:04 < DataGhost> lol @ hyves by the way 23:04 < DataGhost> they must be terrible coders 23:04 < DataGhost> about 2 months ago they purchased about 200 servers 23:04 < DataGhost> now they're getting ANOTHER 100 this week :| 23:04 < DataGhost> month* 23:04 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:05 < DataGhost> a quick calculation shows me they have under 300 requests per second 23:06 < DataGhost> I know another site which does more than 300 requests per second on only 5 servers (and no it's hardly a static site :P) 23:06 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:06 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:07 < DataGhost> anyway 23:08 < DataGhost> I'm going to sleep now, nn 23:08 < DerPapst_> good night 23:11 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has quit ["IceChat - Keeping PC's cool since 2000"] 23:26 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:26 -!- debonzi is now known as debonzi-dinnet 23:26 -!- debonzi-dinnet is now known as debonzi-dinner 23:27 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-72-124.cust.iol.ie] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:29 < ikill> guys 23:29 < ikill> it says cannont connect to mpd 23:36 -!- freedomlinux2 [n=Judy@pool-71-175-185-164.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:37 -!- freedomlinux2 [n=Judy@pool-71-175-185-164.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:40 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 -!- kfm82_ [n=kfm82@p54BEFA38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:48 -!- kfm82 [n=kfm82@p54BEDF05.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:49 -!- kfm82_ is now known as kfm82 23:51 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux --- Log closed Tue Jan 23 00:00:00 2007