--- Log opened Mon Jan 15 00:00:05 2007 00:00 < DerPapst_> does the linux-2.4.24-ipod2 kernel support more than 32MB ram? 00:06 < DerPapst_> does the contest judgement ends for "normal" devs today too? 00:13 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:14 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 00:14 < eno2> where can i find a sample avi video 00:14 < eno2> small size and small dimensions 00:16 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:16 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@160.228.157.232] has joined #ipodlinux 00:21 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 00:23 -!- Random_Transit [n=ryan@CPE00119556e2d8-CM0012c9a9ac1c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:23 -!- Random_Transit [n=ryan@CPE00119556e2d8-CM0012c9a9ac1c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 < DerPapst_> linuxstb: i've posted in the ipod 5.5g (80GB) thread. I hope this helps. 00:26 < DerPapst_> and i think the -wfb option works fine :) 00:27 -!- kfm82lin2s [n=kfm82@p54BEE1D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:37 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has joined #ipodlinux 00:37 < eno2> in floydzilla when i click on Run and then type anything 00:37 < eno2> it crashes 00:37 < eno2> why is that? 00:37 < BleuLlama> that's floydzilla for ya 00:38 < BleuLlama> ask dansfloyd. that's his work 00:38 < eno2> ok 00:38 < eno2> then in podzilla how can i type smth and get it executed by the shell? 00:39 -!- Random_Transit [n=ryan@CPE00119556e2d8-CM0012c9a9ac1c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:40 -!- kfm82links [n=kfm82@p54BEFA40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:40 < FuRkLe> this is awesome 00:40 < FuRkLe> huge craving for a crap ton of caffeine but if i have any now i know wont sleep 00:41 < BleuLlama> i've always found that if i have caffeine before sleep, i can sleep fine, but my dreams are more vivid 00:41 < FuRkLe> well when i have it before sleepy time i either sleep normally or not at all 00:42 < FuRkLe> theres no inbetween 00:42 -!- ^0tso [n=Alex@h156n1fls34o263.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:44 < FuRkLe> but if i dont have it this craving is going to drive me mad so i need to go find some now 00:44 < DerPapst_> is there any way to get the whole boot up messages off the ipod? something like dmesg? i want to take a löök on the part where the linux kernel detects the ipods harddisk 00:44 < DerPapst_> *look 00:47 < DerPapst_> because i want to know if there is always a message like http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/index.html 00:47 < DerPapst_> err.. too early 00:49 < DerPapst_> hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } 00:49 < DerPapst_> hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } 00:50 < DerPapst_> ^are the normal on all iPods? 00:50 < DerPapst_> *they 00:54 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@160.228.157.232] has quit ["Bye !"] 01:00 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: do you know that maybe? 01:01 < BleuLlama> no diea 01:01 < BleuLlama> idea* 01:02 < DerPapst_> i'm browsing now youtube videos to find that out... but this part of text scrolls too fast 01:05 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host20-214-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:08 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:21 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.FastNet.lv] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:23 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.FastNet.lv] has joined #ipodlinux 01:28 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.FastNet.lv] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:29 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.FastNet.lv] has joined #ipodlinux 01:29 < Paltsu> http://youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q damn this is unbelievable 01:31 < FuRkLe> what proggy is that 01:31 * BleuLlama pops on "Acidjazzed_evening.mod" on MikModule/podzilla2 01:32 * FuRkLe whimpers at his unmodded winpod 01:32 < FuRkLe> why m ust you taunt me >< 01:33 < BleuLlama> i'm playing it on my desktop. not through my ipod 01:33 < FuRkLe> uhoh 01:33 < FuRkLe> my wii is glowing 01:33 < FuRkLe> firmware update? 01:33 < BleuLlama> you've got mail 01:33 < FuRkLe> thats a possibility too 01:34 < BleuLlama> i need to get a devkit for my DS, so i can get DSlinux running on it, and port podzilla over to it. :} 01:35 < FuRkLe> oh shit 01:35 < FuRkLe> wiiflex news letter 01:35 < BleuLlama> language 01:35 < FuRkLe> someone managed to overflow opera 01:35 < FuRkLe> oh poop* 01:36 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.FastNet.lv] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:37 < Paltsu> FuRkLe: there's a .mp3 from that .MOD 01:37 < Paltsu> just a sec 01:37 < FuRkLe> eh? oh dont worry about it 01:37 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.FastNet.lv] has joined #ipodlinux 01:37 < Paltsu> http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/tempest_acidjazz.mp3 01:38 < Paltsu> ah, i got it all wrong :D 01:39 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:50 < FuRkLe> BleuLlama i just wish the ds would work with wpa 01:50 < FuRkLe> im sick of using wep 02:26 < DerPapst_> gcc -o sleep sleep.c 02:26 < DerPapst_> ./sleep --DerPapst 02:26 < DerPapst_> good night 02:26 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB31B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:34 < FuRkLe> holy poop im wired 02:35 < FuRkLe> i really shouldnt of drank all that 02:42 -!- FuRkLe [n=furkle@bas1-stcatharines10-1167944524.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 02:54 -!- [Z]ER0 [n=ZER0@d205-250-218-214.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 < [Z]ER0> heh cool it worked :P 02:55 < [Z]ER0> im using zdaemon to access this irc 02:56 < [Z]ER0> alrighty lets get down to my question now :P 02:56 < [Z]ER0> how do i fix the problem with my ipod when i install linux using Arab Freaks 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15:24 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv] has joined #ipodlinux 15:29 < Drgb> let's suppose I have 4000 songs on my iPod...and let's suppose I'm starting MPD for the first time, with the --update-db option 15:30 < Drgb> is it normal that it freezes at the Initializing Modules MPD? (hd is doing some noise) 15:30 < Drgb> I think it may be because it has to build the db and need some time... 15:31 < BleuLlama> 10+ minutes the first time 15:32 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:32 < Drgb> weeehee! 15:33 < Drgb> I hope I wont die until the end 15:33 < Drgb> I want to see it working 15:34 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@70-39-102-151.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:37 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@201-13-42-133.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 15:41 -!- linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb 15:51 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:00 -!- Noic3|Gone [i=Noic3@h-199-136.A146.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #ipodlinux 16:00 -!- Noic3|Gone [i=Noic3@h-199-136.A146.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 16:01 -!- Noic3|Gone [i=Noic3@h-199-136.A146.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #ipodlinux 16:01 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 16:08 -!- Nanousr [n=chatzill@c-68-57-110-43.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 -!- Nanousr [n=chatzill@c-68-57-110-43.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:19 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has joined #ipodlinux 16:20 -!- thegeek_ [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:21 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:24 -!- thegeek_ [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:25 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 16:36 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:40 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:54 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:54 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-105-129.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [] 16:56 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw3-fe13df00-222.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #iPodLinux 17:02 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:06 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@208.53.170.128] has joined #ipodlinux 17:08 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@208.53.170.128] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:11 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@212.2.179.28] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 17:13 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:14 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 17:23 -!- Patman64 [n=chatzill@bas2-toronto12-1177592358.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 17:24 < Patman64> hello 17:25 < Patman64> is anyone here?\ 17:26 < BHSPitMonkey> no 17:31 < Patman64> can i ask a question? 17:32 -!- debonzi is now known as debonzi-bb 17:32 -!- debonzi-bb is now known as debonzi-brb 17:32 < BHSPitMonkey> did someone tell you you couldn't? 17:33 < Patman64> no 17:34 < Patman64> ok my ipod is a 1G Nano 4G 17:34 < Patman64> but im sure this isnt because its not supported 17:35 < Patman64> so i wanted to install and run iboy 7.5 on it 17:35 < Patman64> but i realized i needed to be able to run loader2 arguments 17:35 < Patman64> so i installed getLoader2Args 17:36 < Patman64> but that needed the Minix shell and a modified rc file 17:36 < Patman64> so i installed the Minix shell and changed the rc file to what it needed to be 17:37 < Patman64> but now i get a syntax error when i attempt to start iboy and ipodlinux 17:37 < Patman64> ive got pozilla2 and Loader2.4 17:38 < Patman64> any ideas? 17:38 < BHSPitMonkey> you didn't need to do loader2args at all 17:38 < BHSPitMonkey> you can start iBoy from podzilla. 17:38 < Patman64> rly? 17:38 < Patman64> ya with External Application Launcher 17:39 < Patman64> but... 17:39 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh, I didn't say podzilla2. I said podzilla. 17:39 < BHSPitMonkey> It launches binaries natively. 17:39 < BHSPitMonkey> And, you're still wrong. 17:39 < BHSPitMonkey> podzilla2 runs executables on its own, now. 17:40 < BHSPitMonkey> (That news is a week or two old) 17:40 < Patman64> yes, but i heard iboy takes too much memory and cpu to run alongside podzilla 17:41 < BHSPitMonkey> podzilla goes to sleep while a binary is running in another vt. 17:41 < Patman64> therefore it must be launched from Loader2 or External Applications Launcher 17:41 < Patman64> hmm, rly? 17:41 < BHSPitMonkey> also, there's CLauncher, too, if you really feel THAT way. 17:41 < HardDisk_WP> hi all 17:41 < HardDisk_WP> my friend has a nano2g... 17:41 < HardDisk_WP> any way of getting linux on it? he is annoyed he cant watch video 17:41 < fxb> doesn't work. 17:41 < BHSPitMonkey> HardDisk_WP, out of luck. 17:42 < HardDisk_WP> damned. any way to patch ipod firmware? 17:42 < Patman64> ya 2nd Gen Nano is definetly unsupported 17:42 < Patman64> the firware is encrypted 17:43 < Patman64> anyway CLauncher is a little unflexible 17:43 < BHSPitMonkey> Correct. 17:43 < BHSPitMonkey> (you can modify it and re-compile it yourself, though; it IS open-source) 17:43 -!- Snake[Sleep] [n=snake@unaffiliated/snake] has quit ["leaving"] 17:44 < Patman64> thats true, but i hate doing that cuz i never know if it will work right 17:44 < BHSPitMonkey> I suggest changing back your shell and your rc file for now. 17:44 < Patman64> after compiling 17:45 < BHSPitMonkey> then, install podzilla (not podzilla2- rename "/bin/podzilla" to "/bin/podzilla2" and then install podzilla as "podzilla") 17:45 < Patman64> and run it off of podzilla 17:45 < BHSPitMonkey> mmmhmm 17:45 < Patman64> sounds ok 17:45 < BHSPitMonkey> you can launch pz2 from within there as well. 17:45 < BHSPitMonkey> or iDoom, etc 17:46 < Patman64> rly? cool 17:46 -!- debonzi-brb is now known as debonzi 17:46 < BHSPitMonkey> via filebrowser. 17:46 < Patman64> i will try it 17:46 < Patman64> thanx! 17:46 < BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm. 17:47 < Patman64> there is one more thing 17:47 < Patman64> another unrelated but still pretty bad problem 17:47 < BHSPitMonkey> This was all a joke? There really is no iPod? 17:47 < Patman64> no there is no joke. and the ipod is very real 17:48 < Patman64> ill give a link 17:48 < Patman64> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=177970#177970 17:50 < Patman64> i think i hav figured out the first two questions 17:50 < BHSPitMonkey> the answer is quite simply, 17:50 < BHSPitMonkey> "maybe". 17:50 < Patman64> any idea on how i can change the default text input for the shell? 17:51 < Patman64> cuz being able to use it wud be nice 17:54 < BHSPitMonkey> find a different build 17:55 < Patman64> of wat? The shell? 17:55 * Soap 's eyes are burning from all the "wat"s "cuz" 17:55 < Soap> s, "wud"s, "plz"s 17:56 < BHSPitMonkey> `spelling 17:56 < BHSPitMonkey> !spelling 17:56 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 17:56 < BHSPitMonkey> josh, what gives 17:59 < Patman64> ok i will go and try what you said 17:59 < Patman64> thanks! : ) 17:59 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2EBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:16 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 18:20 -!- analeptic [n=eip@c-022ae655.31-4-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:21 < analeptic> hay, i've overwritten my ipod's partion tables 18:21 < analeptic> with an incorrect one 18:21 -!- shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-26-131-198.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 < analeptic> send to this channel a working and correct description of ipod firmware partion tables, please 18:23 < linuxstb> Which ipod do you have? 18:23 < analeptic> nano 2gb 18:24 < linuxstb> You can download one from here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 18:24 < analeptic> aha 18:26 < analeptic> now it shows a repeated sequence of "use ipod restore ", "do not disconnect", shut down 18:27 < analeptic> does'nt appear in dmseg 18:30 < analeptic> [17215231.696000] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 < sdb5 > 18:30 < analeptic> so.. which one of those to use with the command: dd if=mbr-xxxx.bin of=/dev/diskN ? 18:31 < linuxstb> None of them... 18:31 < linuxstb> Is your ipod in disk mode? 18:31 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-221-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:32 < analeptic> linuxstb: it says "dot not disconnect" 18:32 < analeptic> colorless 18:33 < linuxstb> Try typing "fdisk -l" to list all the disks attached to your computer. You don't want to write that partition table to the wrong one... 18:33 < linuxstb> (as root) 18:34 < analeptic> sdb is the ipod 18:34 < linuxstb> In which case, do "dd if=mbr-xxx.bin of=/dev/sdb" 18:34 < analeptic> Disk /dev/sdb: 2047 MB, 2047868416 byte 18:34 < analeptic> 255 huvuden, 63 sektorer/spÃ¥r, 248 cylindrar 18:34 < analeptic> Enheter = cylindrar av 16065 · 512 = 8225280 byte 18:34 < analeptic> Enhet Start Början Slut Block Id System 18:34 < analeptic> /dev/sdb1 * 1 234 1879573+ 83 Linux 18:34 < analeptic> /dev/sdb2 235 248 112455 5 Utökad 18:34 < analeptic> /dev/sdb5 235 248 112423+ 82 Linux växling / Solaris 18:35 < analeptic> ok.. now I just need this newfs_msdos program.. 18:35 < linuxstb> What did you do to your ipod? 18:35 < linuxstb> Is it possible that your FAT32 partition is intact? 18:36 < linuxstb> Your firmware partition itself may also need restoring as well. 18:36 < analeptic> no, i ran the ubuntu installer with ipod as target 18:37 < linuxstb> OK, then download the firmware for your ipod from here: http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ 18:37 < linuxstb> You want Nano 1G (1st generation) 18:39 < analeptic> >file Firmware-17.5.3 18:39 < analeptic> Firmware-17.5.3: data 18:39 < analeptic> :p how to put i into sufficent use? 18:39 < linuxstb> That's the image of your firmware partition. So dd if=Firmware-17.5.3 of=/dev/sdb1 18:40 < linuxstb> And then /sbin/mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb2 18:40 < analeptic> # mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdb2 18:40 < analeptic> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) 18:40 < analeptic> mkfs.vfat: Too few blocks for viable file system 18:41 < linuxstb> What does fdisk -l tell you about /dev/sdb ? 18:41 < analeptic> /dev/sdb1 1 10 80293+ 0 Tom 18:41 < analeptic> /dev/sdb2 11 248 1911732 b W95 FAT32 18:41 < analeptic> tom=empty 18:41 < linuxstb> That's weird... 18:41 < analeptic> why.. 18:42 < linuxstb> I mean the error messag is weird. I don't know why it would complain. 18:42 < linuxstb> ^message 18:43 < analeptic> i might'v got the wring firmware; Firmware-17.5.3 18:43 < linuxstb> mkfs.vfat shouldn't care about that. 18:44 < analeptic> it works now :) 18:44 < linuxstb> The Apple firmware boots? 18:44 < analeptic> yeas 18:48 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:54 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host221-214-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 18:54 -!- GodEater [i=bryan@host-84-9-15-114.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:55 -!- dsh-1 [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:03 < BleuLlama> fixing webserver 19:04 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@212.2.179.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:05 -!- FuRkLe [n=furkle@bas1-stcatharines10-1167944524.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 19:13 < DataGhost> DerPapst_ ? 19:13 < DerPapst_> yep 19:13 < DataGhost> pm please? :) 19:13 < DataGhost> oh 19:13 < DataGhost> blocked. blahblah 19:13 < DataGhost> may I ask how you get linux to 'boot' on the 5.5G 80GB? 19:13 < DataGhost> or is there a guide or something? 19:13 < DataGhost> so I can try to fiddle around a bit 19:14 < linuxstb> Basically just use kernel.bin instead of loader.bin 19:14 < GodEater> it doesn't work at all 19:14 < DerPapst_> no problem. do you know ipodpatcher? 19:14 < DataGhost> it IS that easy? 19:14 < DataGhost> I considered that but thought it wouldn't work 19:14 < DataGhost> lol. 19:14 < DerPapst_> you hear it... (yes, would be easy) 19:14 < DataGhost> rofl, ok then :) 19:15 < GodEater> oic - you're attempting info gathering - ignore me ;) 19:15 < GodEater> DerPapst_ did you see my reply to your post on the forums ? 19:15 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 19:15 < DerPapst_> yes.. i'm "working" on a reply atm 19:16 < DataGhost> GodEater I figured that it might be on some other sector than 0 (or 1 or 2 or whatever it checks) 19:16 < DataGhost> so if I change that it might find something 19:16 < DataGhost> long shot 19:16 < DataGhost> but I like fiddling around with stuff like that ;) 19:16 < DataGhost> I've got 3 weeks of spare time anyway 19:17 < DataGhost> but there are bigger problems than ipl 19:17 < DataGhost> like.. where the heck did I leave my usb cable 19:17 < GodEater> if you're not ready to put it through a window in 3 days of fiddling I'll be impressed ;) 19:17 < DataGhost> hehe 19:17 < GodEater> I only take a look once a week now 19:17 < DataGhost> well I can let that thing fiddle for me 19:17 < GodEater> I couldn't handle the frustration otherwise 19:17 -!- AriX_ [n=Ari@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < DataGhost> I can try to let it scan the _entire_ drive 19:18 < DataGhost> for some useful signature 19:18 < DataGhost> but I'll have to figure something else too 19:18 < GodEater> I tried dumping the content of the read buffer regardless of the error register 19:18 < DataGhost> because I noticed it doesn't charge fast enough to do that 24/7 19:18 < GodEater> got a lot of 0xdeadbeef back 19:18 < GodEater> but then some weird repeating patterns 19:18 < linuxstb> The read buffer is on the stack? 19:18 < DataGhost> my iPod got a dead battery when transferring music with iTunes 19:19 < DataGhost> after 1 hour of charging 19:19 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has joined #ipodlinux 19:19 < GodEater> I'm not sure linuxstb 19:19 < GodEater> but that's what I got 19:19 < DerPapst_> 0xdeadbeef? 19:19 < DerPapst_> haha 19:19 < GodEater> I have it somewhere 19:19 < linuxstb> Rockbox fills the stacks with 0xdeadbeef 19:19 < DerPapst_> thats funny 19:19 < DataGhost> easy to see if something is 'wrong' :) 19:19 < GodEater> but after that 19:19 < DataGhost> or eh.. 'set' 19:19 < GodEater> there's some repeating pattern 19:19 < GodEater> that I couldn't find anywhere in the code 19:19 < GodEater> so I'm not sure where it's coming from 19:19 < DataGhost> ah there we go 19:20 < DataGhost> it was plugged into my pc -_- 19:20 < AriX_> hi DerPapst_ 19:20 < DataGhost> stuck between 12x cat5 wires 19:20 < AriX_> anything new about the 5.5Gs? been busy lately... 19:20 -!- AriX_ is now known as BBC 19:21 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:21 < DerPapst_> AriX: not realy... 19:21 < BBC> ic 19:21 < BBC> whoops 19:21 -!- BBC is now known as AriX|Busy 19:22 < DataGhost> boot-and-panic is as far as 5.5G development goes afaik 19:22 < DataGhost> at the moment 19:22 < DerPapst_> and something seems to be wrong with the installation instructions i've posted in the osx forum 19:22 < GodEater> you don't even have it working on 30G? 19:22 < AriX|Busy> i have it working... 19:23 < AriX|Busy> DataGhost, i have linux on my 5.5G 19:23 < AriX|Busy> i wrote a mac tutorial 19:23 < DataGhost> oh 19:23 < AriX|Busy> http://ipodlinux.org/5.5G 19:23 < DataGhost> 5.5G 80GB * 19:23 < DataGhost> :P 19:23 < DataGhost> sorry, I'm biased 19:23 < AriX|Busy> there's that :D 19:23 < DataGhost> i've got the 80GB 19:23 < AriX|Busy> i see 19:23 < DataGhost> by the way, apple OS boots (even on 5.5G) with the svn loader2 19:24 < DataGhost> so I've got the -DDEBUG loader2 before my apple OS, just to have a fancy screen at the moment :P 19:24 < DerPapst_> GodEater: the kernel is still unable to read the partitiontable correctly 19:24 < AriX|Busy> lol 19:24 < GodEater> yeah I thought so 19:24 < AriX|Busy> i have appleos on my ipod 19:25 < AriX|Busy> im the only person to have apple os and linux on a 5.5G :D 19:25 < DerPapst_> it thinks the sectors are stored in terms of 512b/s. 19:25 < GodEater> DerPapst_ they are 19:25 < DerPapst_> only macpods don't have that problem 19:25 < GodEater> the logical's are 512 as far as the code on the iPod reports 19:25 < GodEater> it's only via usb they're presented as 2048 19:26 < DerPapst_> afaik they are stored in the partiitiontable also in terms of 2048b/s 19:27 < GodEater> not from the dump's I've seen... 19:27 < DataGhost> connect to your computer. use itunes to restore. 19:27 < DataGhost> there goes attempt 1 19:28 < GodEater> I only see an option to write the bootloader as a .bin file linuxstb 19:28 < GodEater> not a firmware 19:28 < GodEater> which I assume the kernel.bin counts as ? 19:30 < AriX|Busy> no 19:30 < AriX|Busy> kernel.bin is the kernel 19:30 < DerPapst_> i have written a --writ-firmware-bin option for ipodpatcher 19:30 < AriX|Busy> loader.bin is the bootloader 19:30 < AriX|Busy> what's --write-firmware_bin do? 19:30 < AriX|Busy> or whatever 19:30 < DerPapst_> but it is not yet in SVN 19:31 < DerPapst_> GodEater: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7738.msg64059;topicseen#msg64059 19:32 < AriX|Busy> der papst, have you read http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=177823#177823? 19:32 < DerPapst_> i've already posted there ;) 19:32 < GodEater> saw it 19:32 < AriX|Busy> oh didn't see lol 19:32 < DataGhost> hm 19:32 < GodEater> I'm still not sure you're right about the local drive seeing 2048 logical sectors 19:32 < DataGhost> what if you modify the partitiontable to make the ext3 partition start 4x later DerPapst_? 19:33 < DataGhost> that is 19:33 < GodEater> nothing I've seen in the identify info indicates that 19:33 < AriX|Busy> what's the difference beetween ipodpatcher 0.5 and 0.6? 19:33 < DataGhost> so linux will see it at the right position? :) 19:33 < DataGhost> or does it still not read the mbr at all? 19:33 < DerPapst_> GodEater: actually it was one of linuxstb's guesses.. i've just copied it ;) 19:33 < AriX|Busy> derpapst? 19:33 < AriX|Busy> do you know/ 19:33 < linuxstb> AriX|Busy: 0.6 doesn't exist yet. 0.6cvs has an option to write a bootloader in ".bin" (i.e. raw) format instead of the Rockbox ".ipod" format. 19:34 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: no one knows for sure 19:34 < AriX|Busy> oh i see... i used that before 19:34 < DataGhost> well... try it? 19:34 < DataGhost> I've not got it running yet 19:34 < DataGhost> :P 19:34 < AriX|Busy> ooh you sent me a pm lol 19:35 < GodEater> well with all due respect to linuxstb, I think he's wrong there ;) 19:35 < AriX|Busy> derpapst why do you want me to try those instructionsa/ 19:35 < linuxstb> What did I say? 19:35 < GodEater> I've looked at that identity info so many times my eyes bleed 19:35 < linuxstb> (allegedly say) 19:35 < GodEater> and I can't see if defining 2048 byte logical sectors 19:35 < GodEater> s/if/it 19:36 < GodEater> apparently you think the ipod uses 2048 byte logical sectors linuxstb :) 19:36 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: if you still want to play around with replacing the kernel you have to get ipodpatcher from rockbox' SVN repository and then apply a pacht to it to get a new option to write a bin file to the ipod 19:36 < GodEater> I only see that when we mount it over usb 19:36 < DataGhost> oh ok 19:36 < AriX|Busy> derpapst i was right 19:36 < DataGhost> DerPapst_ is that the same as dd if=kernel.bin of=/dev/sda seek=252 ? 19:36 < AriX|Busy> in your tutorial, please replace su root with sudo su 19:36 < DataGhost> or does it still need some extra stuff then 19:36 < AriX|Busy> su root does not work on macs unless root is enabled 19:36 < DerPapst_> linuxstb: read it in the iPL logs somewhere.. should i search it? 19:37 < DerPapst_> *shall 19:37 -!- doodles_69 [n=chatzill@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-O-THREE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 < DataGhost> ah well i'll get ipodpatcher :) 19:37 < DerPapst_> AriX: ok 19:37 < doodles_69> Quick question - does anyone here use iBoy with a iPod 4G (Color) (photo ipod) 19:38 < DataGhost> only with the b/w 4G doodles_69 19:38 < doodles_69> Does 0.7.5 work for you? 19:38 < AriX|Busy> derpapst_, why do you want me to try your tutorial? 19:38 < DataGhost> dunno, it's in floydzilla (latest) 19:38 < GodEater> I have to say I'm curious to know why that message displays LBASect of 64260, but sector=0 19:38 < AriX|Busy> just to see if it would normally work? 19:38 < DataGhost> but at least *some* version works doodles_69 19:38 < DataGhost> not sure which at the moment 19:38 < doodles_69> oh ok... that's prob an old version 19:38 < linuxstb> GodEater, DerPapst_: What I think I meant was that the filesystem uses 2048-byte logical sectors, but the disk is 512-byte sectors (or 2048-byte sectors via USB). 19:38 < doodles_69> you might want to update it sometime 19:38 < DataGhost> yeah, ah well :) 19:39 < doodles_69> but no need for me 19:39 < DataGhost> trying to get ipl to work on my 5.5G now, so my 4G is a little bit less important :P 19:39 < GodEater> ah - well we've not got as far as reading the filesystem yet :) 19:39 < doodles_69> ok. if it doesn't work for someone, i'll let them complain to me 19:39 < DerPapst_> Arix: some persons reported that they get the "restore with itunes" message after installing the kernel as described. 19:39 < linuxstb> GodEater: I was probably talking about the differences on the 30GB... 19:40 -!- doodles_69 [n=chatzill@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-O-THREE.MIT.EDU] has quit [Client Quit] 19:40 < GodEater> linuxstb: makes a lot of sense 19:40 < GodEater> I can't imagine why having it use 2048 byte sectors over USB would make any sense if it *didn't* use 2048 byte sectors for the filesystem 19:41 < AriX|Busy> derpapst the restore with itunes is, i believe the 5.5G version of the folder-exclamation point 19:41 < AriX|Busy> so the problem is in the firmware 19:41 < DerPapst_> mo too btw... but i don't understand everyhing i guess :-/ 19:41 < DerPapst_> *me 19:41 < AriX|Busy> brb 19:41 < GodEater> and I'm always ready to admit I'm wrong - you've done far more work on the ipods than I have :) 19:42 < DerPapst_> AriX: linux_fw.bin is meant to replace the entire firmware. 19:43 < AriX|Busy> what? what's linux_fw.bin? 19:43 < AriX|Busy> i don't know what your'e talking about lol 19:43 < Soap> I heard the suggestion at one point in time, no idea if it was correct, that 2034 byte sectors over USB speed transfers? 19:43 < Soap> 2048 even 19:43 < GodEater> soap: yep - that's the reason they're used 19:43 < AriX|Busy> oh i see 19:43 < AriX|Busy> in the tutorial 19:43 < GodEater> on this enormous hard drives we had now it's much more efficient 19:44 < GodEater> s/this/these 19:44 < linuxstb> Shouldn't the OS cache the USB reads/writes though? 19:44 < AriX|Busy> so you replaced the firmware with the kernel 19:44 < GodEater> linuxstb: it's more efficient at the drive end 19:44 < GodEater> not the OS end 19:44 < GodEater> with the larger reads/writes we do with large drives these days it's much quicker to write large sectors 19:45 < linuxstb> What I mean is that it's well known that tiny USB transfers are inefficient. 19:45 < GodEater> the only issue is with the multiple logical sectors per physical now 19:45 < DerPapst_> AriX yes (and updated btw) 19:45 < AriX|Busy> cool thanks 19:45 < AriX|Busy> g2g 19:45 < AriX|Busy> i'll be back some other time, tell me if anything happens 19:45 < GodEater> well I'm sure the usb bit has been optimised a lot 19:45 < GodEater> but with the old size sectors 19:45 < DerPapst_> ok... 19:46 < GodEater> the drive would still have to do 4 times as many operations 19:46 < GodEater> for each chunk of data 19:46 -!- AriX|Busy [n=Ari@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:47 < GodEater> in desperation I even started looking at the draft ATA-8 specs today 19:47 < GodEater> there's a feature in there for logical sector 0 not being aligned on the start of the first physical sector 19:47 < GodEater> but I'm still not sure that's the problem 19:48 < DataGhost> lol 19:48 < GodEater> logical sector 0 is STILL logical sector 0 19:48 < GodEater> even if it's physically located somewhere else 19:48 < GodEater> having it unaligned would only make any difference on writing 19:48 < GodEater> not on reading 19:49 < DataGhost> Well, I guess it doesn't *have to* be compliant, as long as no other OS *should* run on it 19:49 < GodEater> I found something else this afternoon too 19:49 < GodEater> but didn't have a chance to read it properly 19:49 < DataGhost> dunno if toshiba also sells those drives to others 19:49 * GodEater checks the rockbox logs 19:49 < FuRkLe> hey does anyone know of a website that does good reviews on cell phones 19:49 < GodEater> http://www.ce-ata.org/ 19:50 < GodEater> which looks to be a special cut down ATA for consumer electronics 19:50 < GodEater> tellingly both Toshiba and Apple are members 19:50 < DerPapst_> GodEater: about the LBASect: do you thinks it's a fluke that the startpoint of the ext3 partiton and the LBASect are matching or can this also detected with the ATA IDENTIFY command (sorry if that is confusing but i am confused ;) ) 19:51 < GodEater> I *think* it's coincidence 19:51 < GodEater> there's nothing in the identify info about the partitions 19:51 < GodEater> but like I say - that error message seems to say it's trying to read sector 0 19:51 < GodEater> so I've no idea where that LBASect is coming from 19:52 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv] has left #ipodlinux ["WeeChat 0.2.4-cvs"] 19:52 < DerPapst_> ah. ok 19:52 < DerPapst_> :( 19:52 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-239-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:53 < GodEater> wow 19:53 < GodEater> think I have something here 19:53 < DerPapst_> o.O 19:53 < GodEater> ah no 19:53 < GodEater> false alarm 19:54 < DerPapst_> :-/ 19:54 < GodEater> opened the wrong document 19:54 < GodEater> sorry 19:54 < DerPapst_> hehe 19:54 * linuxstb puts champagne back in the fridge 19:54 -!- Noic3|Gone [i=Noic3@h-199-136.A146.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit ["all we need is love and beer!"] 19:54 < DataGhost> pff DerPapst_ you said --write-firmware_bin ? 19:54 < GodEater> hahaha 19:54 < GodEater> although the date on the CE protocol's latest revision matches the release of the 5.5Gs.... 19:54 < DataGhost> * $Id: ipodpatcher.c 11831 2006-12-21 21:34:46Z dave $ hm wait I've probably got the wrong one 19:55 < DerPapst_> about this LBA thingy: in the driver there is that ide_dump_status function. That gives those information about these errors my ipod displays 19:56 < DerPapst_> DataGhost. there is no -wfb option in the official ipodpatcher version. i have to you you the code first ;) 19:56 < GodEater> well see if you can track down where the LBASect value is coming from then 19:56 < DerPapst_> heh... 19:56 < DataGhost> DerPapst_ I thought you said it was in svn? :o 19:56 < DerPapst_> i can try. 19:57 < GodEater> *if* the 80G is using this reduced command set 19:57 < GodEater> then I'm right about it not supporting PIO 19:57 < DerPapst_> i've written the wfb option myself ;) 19:57 < DataGhost> yes 19:57 < DataGhost> but you haven't committed it then? 19:57 < DerPapst_> i can't commit to rockbox svn 19:57 < DataGhost> oh 19:57 < DataGhost> 'not yet' in svn 19:57 < DerPapst_> i'm not a dev 19:57 < DataGhost> my bad 19:57 < DataGhost> :P 19:58 < GodEater> what sort of champagne is it linuxstb ? :) 19:58 < DataGhost> didn't read your messages thoroughly several times 19:58 < DataGhost> DerPapst_ do you want to send me that patch then? 19:58 < DataGhost> while I get some mind-refreshing stuff 19:58 < GodEater> yeah - I could do with getting drunk too :) 19:58 < DataGhost> i actually meant cafeine, not ethanol :P 19:59 < DataGhost> brb 20:00 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-221-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:00 * GodEater is hardcore. He drinks meths. 20:00 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: here is the complete ipodpatcher source file: http://pastebin.ca/317668 20:00 < linuxstb> GodEater: Sadly it's a hypothetical bottle, and I would be more likely to have Cava anyway (my g/f is from Barcelona). 20:01 -!- Tom-Turbo [n=tom@catv-139-168.tbwil.ch] has quit [Success] 20:01 < GodEater> nothing wrong with Cava 20:01 < linuxstb> Absolutely not. 20:01 < DataGhost> lol GodEater 20:01 < GodEater> are you permanently based in Barcelona now ? 20:02 < linuxstb> No, I was just there for Xmas. 20:02 < GodEater> nice place to go :) 20:02 < GodEater> I was there for Valentines day last year with my g/f 20:02 < DataGhost> thanks DerPapst_ :) 20:04 < DataGhost> eh 20:04 < DataGhost> is it normal for ipodpatcher to do ~1.6 MB/s ? 20:05 < DataGhost> because DD sure doesn't 20:05 < DataGhost> dd even 20:05 < DerPapst_> wait until that diskindocator isn't flashing anymore on your ipods lcd 20:05 < DataGhost> nice :) 20:05 < DataGhost> ah ok 20:06 < DataGhost> i usually do sync anyway 20:06 < DerPapst_> but i think it's faster 20:06 < DataGhost> oh wait however 20:06 < DataGhost> this is just the 1,6 MB eh 20:06 < DataGhost> not the entire 14MB 20:06 < DataGhost> but it doesn't even attempt to boot from my ext3 partition 20:06 < DataGhost> let's create an ext3 partition 20:06 < DataGhost> :P 20:07 < DerPapst_> heh 20:07 < DataGhost> eh. you moved the fat32 partition? 20:08 < DataGhost> can't I just resize the first partition? else I'll have to upload everything again :P 20:08 < DerPapst_> please use another startsector for it than 64260 :) 20:08 < DerPapst_> dunno 20:08 < DataGhost> :) 20:08 < DataGhost> ah well doesn't matter anyway 20:08 < DataGhost> if it doesnt work i'll see in notime 20:09 < DerPapst_> i've done it the way the iPodLinux wiki says. just used different values 20:09 < DataGhost> argh! 20:09 < DataGhost> pressed the wrong combo again 20:09 < DerPapst_> ^ messed up 20:09 < DerPapst_> ah.. 20:09 < DataGhost> there we go, diskmode 20:10 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@201-13-42-133.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:10 < DataGhost> well I didn't partition since it could be done via the fat32 partition 20:10 < DataGhost> at least that's what the wiki said 20:10 < DataGhost> or I misread again 20:11 < DerPapst_> the kernel needs an ext2/3 partition on winpods as rootfs. 20:11 -!- Patman64 [n=chatzill@bas2-toronto12-1177592358.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:11 < DataGhost> oh 20:11 < DataGhost> that's why... it does work with macpods 20:11 < DataGhost> dosn't with fat32 20:12 < DataGhost> but the loader understands fat32 so you can easily update the kernel 20:12 < DataGhost> i get it now 20:12 < DataGhost> i guess 20:12 < DataGhost> :P 20:12 < DerPapst_> heh 20:15 < DataGhost> hm, my fdisk works with cylinders... 20:15 < DataGhost> now I have 2x ~64MB 20:15 < DataGhost> should be enough 20:15 < DerPapst_> yes 20:18 < DataGhost> that's a whole load of errors yeah 20:18 < DataGhost> so. that seems to be working :) 20:18 < DerPapst_> these ones? http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/index.html 20:18 < DataGhost> guess so, the seekerror things 20:18 < DataGhost> lot more than I expected 20:19 < DerPapst_> what is the value for LBAsect? 20:19 < DataGhost> will ipodpatcher overwrite the older linux.bin by the way? when I want to put in a new one 20:19 < DataGhost> lbasect..heh 20:19 * DataGhost ejects ipod 20:19 < DerPapst_> yes 20:20 < DataGhost> I remember something with 32 20:20 < DataGhost> not sure 20:20 < DataGhost> 32130 as it's scrolling by 20:20 < DerPapst_> i need the exact value please 20:20 < DataGhost> 32122 20:20 < DerPapst_> ok... 20:20 < DataGhost> and now it stopped 20:20 < DerPapst_> it increases? 20:20 < DataGhost> well in the end it also says sector=2 20:20 < DataGhost> just as on your screenies :) 20:21 < DerPapst_> aah. 20:21 < DerPapst_> ok 20:21 < DataGhost> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/3.jpg 20:21 < DataGhost> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/4.jpg 20:21 < DataGhost> same thing :) 20:21 < DataGhost> 64260 = 2x 32120 20:21 < DataGhost> yours starts after the firmware partition 20:21 < DataGhost> so on cylinder 5 20:21 < DataGhost> mine on 3 20:22 < DerPapst_> mount you ipod and give me the output from ipodpatcher. if you do ./ipodpatcer /dev/sdX 20:22 < DerPapst_> in #ipodlinux.flood 20:22 < DataGhost> yes I was going to do that but you made me reboot :( :P 20:22 < DerPapst_> hehe 20:25 < DataGhost> so DerPapst_ by 'YAY' you mean something like 'it DOES read the MBR but it cant find the partition'? or what :P 20:25 -!- Freeman [n=furkle@bas1-stcatharines10-1167946062.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:25 < DerPapst_> not sure 20:26 < DataGhost> lol 20:26 < DataGhost> but eh. you have a macpod? 20:26 < DataGhost> becaues I remember some HFS-stuff from your screeny 20:26 < DerPapst_> i'll ask godeater if i've modified my post ;) 20:26 -!- FuRkLe [n=furkle@bas1-stcatharines10-1167944524.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:26 -!- Freeman is now known as FuRkLe 20:26 < DerPapst_> yep.. that was me ^^ 20:26 < DataGhost> ok 20:26 < DataGhost> because I have a winpod 20:26 < DataGhost> which is obvious I guess 20:26 < DataGhost> from the fat32-thingy 20:27 < DerPapst_> hehe 20:27 < DataGhost> but let's see if this one also says the HFS-thingy 20:27 < DataGhost> yes it does 20:27 < DataGhost> strange, since I shouldn't have that 20:28 < DataGhost> but ah well, probably a default in this patched kernel 20:28 < DataGhost> or maybe it tries fat32 at sector 0 and hfs+ at sector 2 20:28 < DataGhost> i'll have to get my cam to get some stills 20:28 < DataGhost> brb 20:30 < DerPapst_> GodEater: ping 20:30 < GodEater> pong 20:31 < DerPapst_> i've edited the post in the rockbox forum 20:31 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@A-32-81.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 < GodEater> so you have 20:31 < GodEater> how curious 20:31 < DerPapst_> with a test from DataGhost 20:32 < GodEater> yeah I saw 20:32 < GodEater> well clearly it's no co-incidence then 20:32 < DerPapst_> and his value from LBASect is matching the one from his partition table 20:33 < DataGhost> w00t, I contributed \o/ 20:33 < DerPapst_> löl 20:33 < DataGhost> really, I haven't used my cam in a long time 20:33 < GodEater> well I can't imagine it's getting that info from anywhere other than the MBR then =/ 20:33 < DataGhost> i totally forgot about the highspeed pics 20:35 < DerPapst_> maybe you want to look at the code again. this function starts at line 366. http://ipodlinux.cvs.sourceforge.net/ipodlinux/linux/drivers/ide/ide.c?revision=1.2&view=markup 20:35 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-239-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:35 < DerPapst_> i don't even understand a piece of it :'( 20:35 < GodEater> what's the cvs server address ? 20:36 < DerPapst_> ok.. mabe 2 or 3 lines.. but i don't know where it gets all that values from :-/ 20:36 < DerPapst_> to make a checkout? 20:36 < GodEater> yep 20:36 < GodEater> ipodlinux.org is down ? 20:36 < DerPapst_> wiki is down.. wait a sec 20:36 < linuxstb> It's svn.ipodlinux.org something... 20:37 < linuxstb> Sorry, kernel is in CVS at Sourceforge. 20:37 < DataGhost> GodEater last time I tried ipodlinux.org doesn't work without www. 20:37 < DataGhost> :P 20:37 < DerPapst_> here it is: http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:lEyiOdY3dKwJ:ipodlinux.org/Source_Code+ipodlinux+source+code&hl=de&lr=&strip=1 20:37 < GodEater> I can't explain where it's getting those values from unless it's the MBR linuxstb? 20:37 < linuxstb> No, nor can I. 20:38 < GodEater> so *something* is working better than our ATA driver in rockbox 20:38 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:40 < GodEater> I don't suppose this channel is logged is it ? 20:40 < DerPapst_> it is 20:40 < DataGhost> i ran across it a few times in google afaik 20:40 < DerPapst_> http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ 20:40 * DerPapst_ is fast :) 20:40 < DataGhost> ah that would be it 20:40 < DataGhost> :P 20:40 * BleuLlama restarts the webserver again 20:41 < GodEater> thanks 20:41 < DerPapst_> thanks 20:41 < GodEater> I'll point some of our chaps at this conversation :) 20:41 < GodEater> can't check the kernel out :( 20:42 < DerPapst_> i try if i can do that. 20:42 < BleuLlama> should be back up 20:42 < GodEater> ah got it 20:42 < GodEater> I was trying to check out "kernel" 20:42 < GodEater> not "linux" 20:42 < DerPapst_> ah ok 20:42 < DataGhost> yep blu 20:43 < DataGhost> BleuLlama.. 20:43 < DataGhost> heh 20:47 < DataGhost> pff 20:47 < DataGhost> now I need lights :( 20:47 < DataGhost> 1/13s is not fast enough 20:48 < DerPapst_> make it faster.. if the picture is still readable that would be fine 20:48 < DataGhost> yeah but my room is kinda dark 20:48 < DataGhost> i still let it automatically figure out the time without flash 20:48 < DataGhost> with flash it's readable.. well only the last few lines 20:48 < DerPapst_> when i made those pics my room was absolutely dark 20:49 < DataGhost> well I guess it would work if i put some paper before the flasher 20:49 < DataGhost> it's not a big one so it won't burn I guess :D 20:49 < DerPapst_> the light from the display was good enough 20:49 < BleuLlama> for macro work, i usually throw a sheet of paper in front of the flash to distribute the light more 20:50 < DataGhost> yeah, i just noticed 1 sheet won't work 20:50 < DataGhost> :P 20:50 * DataGhost folds 20:52 < DataGhost> pf 20:52 < DataGhost> i get weird flash-remains now.. guess that won't really work on an iPod screen 20:52 < DataGhost> let's try without flash 20:52 < DataGhost> manual mode ftw 20:52 < DataGhost> hm 20:52 < DataGhost> indeed 20:53 < DataGhost> readable at 1/80 20:54 < DataGhost> 31 pics :) 20:54 < DerPapst_> o.O 20:54 < DerPapst_> i bet you only need 10 to show all the content ;) 20:54 < DataGhost> well if i set it to highspeed mode it'll do 2-3 pics per sec :) 20:54 < DataGhost> ah well :P 20:54 < DataGhost> it'll keep the focus, shutter etc 20:55 < DataGhost> so if i don't move the camera it'll be fine 20:55 < DerPapst_> what camera do you have (just courious) 20:55 < DerPapst_> i used a stativ 20:55 < DataGhost> canon powershot S50 20:55 < DataGhost> i could use a tripod aswell yeah 20:56 < DataGhost> but at the moment my iPod is just lying on my desk 20:56 < DataGhost> so I never thought of that :P 20:56 < DerPapst_> tripod.. that was the word.... 20:56 < GodEater> is this kernel source available as a tarball somewhere ? 20:56 < DataGhost> well that file looks lke it's from 2005 20:56 < DerPapst_> not yet... 20:56 < DataGhost> oh 20:56 < DataGhost> i thought there was 20:57 < DataGhost> vanilla kernel + uclinux patches + ipod patches 20:57 < DerPapst_> afaik not the source 20:57 < DerPapst_> where? 20:57 < DataGhost> somewhere in th wiki 20:57 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:57 < DataGhost> connecting.... 20:57 < DataGhost> is it down again or is that just me? 20:58 < GodEater> I can cvs it from home - but not from work see ? 20:58 < DerPapst_> not.. it's me too ;) 20:58 < DataGhost> ah there we go 20:58 < GodEater> I'd need to download it as a tarball at work 20:58 < DataGhost> it's 'sending request' 20:58 < DataGhost> ah GodEater 20:58 < DataGhost> i can check it out and tar it for you if you want? 20:58 < DerPapst_> i can host the tar bal if you want to 20:58 < DataGhost> once I know where to get the cvs :P 20:59 < DataGhost> i've got 100mbit somewhere in germany, with root shell 20:59 < DerPapst_> lol 20:59 < GodEater> that'd do 20:59 < GodEater> just post me the link in the 80G thread on the rockbox forums 20:59 < DerPapst_> ok :) 20:59 < GodEater> and I'll download it tomorrow 20:59 < DataGhost> you'll do it? k 20:59 < BleuLlama> ugh. does the webserver need restarting? 20:59 < DataGhost> not sure BleuLlama 20:59 < DerPapst_> i can host it at my uni account 21:00 < DataGhost> as Opera only does 'sending request' after making a connection 21:00 < DataGhost> :P 21:00 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: yes 21:00 < BleuLlama> yeah. seems stalled here 21:00 < DataGhost> but it's been sending for 2mins now 21:00 < DataGhost> what's it running anyway? 21:01 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: are you using linux atm? 21:01 < BleuLlama> 14:59:52 up 68 days, 21:36, 1 user, load average: 60.91, 52.49, 40.55 21:01 < BleuLlama> fun! 21:01 < DataGhost> on my desktop, no 21:01 < DataGhost> on my server + notebook + gameserver + germany-server, yes 21:01 < DataGhost> lol BleuLlama 21:01 < DataGhost> that would explain 21:02 < DataGhost> ah there we go, some nice pics 21:02 < DerPapst_> then i have to boot linux later... i don't trust cygwin ;) 21:02 < DataGhost> heh 21:02 < DataGhost> well my home-server is standing next to me so I attached my ipod there :) 21:03 < DataGhost> what do you want to do then? 21:03 < DerPapst_> Oh so can you do the tarball then? 21:03 < DataGhost> lol cvs/svn works perfectly with cygwin, at least for me 21:03 < DataGhost> but i'll do it if you want 21:03 < DataGhost> i just need to know the cvs command 21:03 < DataGhost> because that's on the wiki, right? 21:03 < DerPapst_> yes but maybe it "coruupts" some of the symbolic links 21:03 < DataGhost> oh it's working again 21:03 < DataGhost> ah 21:03 < DataGhost> does it have symlinks in cvs? :o 21:04 < DerPapst_> why not... 21:04 < DataGhost> let's hope tar jcvf doesn't break them :) 21:04 < DerPapst_> svn has symlinks 21:04 < DataGhost> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@ipodlinux.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co linux <- that one? 21:04 < DerPapst_> i think so 21:05 < DataGhost> ok it's working 21:05 < DataGhost> and done already 21:05 < DataGhost> :o 21:05 < DataGhost> only 183 files? :o 21:05 < DerPapst_> tar -cvf file.tar directories 21:05 < DerPapst_> gzip file.tar 21:05 < DataGhost> hm? 21:05 < DerPapst_> that should work. 21:06 < DataGhost> j does bzip2 21:06 < DerPapst_> and don't break anything 21:06 < DataGhost> but tar zcvf does the same as what you're saying :) 21:06 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl.tar.bz2 21:06 < DataGhost> GodEater 21:07 < DataGhost> it's very small though 21:07 < DataGhost> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building <- says they are 'just the patches' 21:08 * GodEater emails the link to himself 21:08 < DerPapst_> i'll post that on the wiki now 21:08 < GodEater> can you leave it there a couple of days ? 21:08 < DataGhost> k 21:08 < DataGhost> it'll be gone in half a year 21:08 < DataGhost> because I cancelled that server 21:08 < DataGhost> :P 21:08 < GodEater> heh 21:08 < GodEater> that'll do 21:09 < DataGhost> i'll copy it again DerPapst_ 21:09 < DataGhost> with a date 21:09 < GodEater> I want to know where those ide calls are being called *from* now 21:09 < BleuLlama> from Phoenix 21:09 < BleuLlama> Phoenix, Arizona 21:09 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl-20070115.tar.bz2 DerPapst_ 21:09 < DataGhost> same file 21:10 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:11 < deameyes> intel is an x86 processor, right? 21:12 < GodEater> mostly 21:12 < GodEater> they do other processors though 21:12 < DataGhost> intel ARM isn't afaik :P 21:12 < deameyes> hehe 21:12 < GodEater> intel license ARM ? 21:12 < deameyes> ok, but like the vaio ux is an x86? 21:12 < BleuLlama> Intel makes all kinds of CPU 21:12 < BleuLlama> *cpus 21:13 < DataGhost> vaio ux is a laptop series 21:13 < DataGhost> i think that's x86 yes 21:13 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 21:13 < DataGhost> if it's got an intel pentium or core 21:13 < deameyes> ok 21:13 < DataGhost> or celeron :P 21:13 < GodEater> BleuLlama: I'm surprised they license ARM though 21:13 < DataGhost> oh it's a micro pc :o 21:13 < deameyes> well an older vaio ux might be my laptop replacement 21:13 < GodEater> it's not their architecture 21:15 < DerPapst_> link posted. 21:16 < DataGhost> Half a gig of RAM, a 30GB SATA HDD with drop protection, a U1300 Intel Core Solo CPU running at 1.06GHz 21:16 < DataGhost> deameyes that's definitely x86 yes 21:17 * DerPapst_ likes the last post of GodEater 21:18 < deameyes> yea already found a site about putting ubuntu on the ux 21:22 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot/ <- and loads of pics 21:22 < DataGhost> at 1/80s without flash :) 21:22 < DerPapst_> omg.. 21:22 < GodEater> Heh - don't get carried away DerPapst_ - there's a LOT of work to do yet :) 21:22 < GodEater> that's just there to shut up the whiny "is there any progress?" crowd 21:23 < deameyes> but what about the nano 2g's?? 21:23 < deameyes> :D 21:23 < DerPapst_> hehe 21:23 < DerPapst_> i already guessed that. 21:23 * GodEater gets out his BIG gun 21:24 < DataGhost> :) 21:24 < DerPapst_> after readding the last few sentences from you in #rockbox ;) 21:24 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 < GodEater> heh 21:24 < DerPapst_> uuhh. my english is rally bad. 21:24 < DerPapst_> *really 21:24 < DerPapst_> doh 21:24 < GodEater> better than my german 21:24 < DataGhost> I really hate the part when you can't make up what page you are clicking with 32 tabs open at 1600x1200 21:25 < DerPapst_> hehehe 21:25 * GodEater runs at 1920x1200 :) 21:25 < DataGhost> yeah, well I could do that too but it'll be at 60Hz 21:25 < DerPapst_> i randomly click some images... 21:25 < DataGhost> 1920x1440 I think 21:25 < DataGhost> or 2048x1536 but that's 60Hz 21:25 < DataGhost> oh 1920 = 65Hz * 21:25 < GodEater> and REALLY tiny 21:25 < GodEater> :) 21:25 < DataGhost> yeah, well 21:25 < DataGhost> 17" :P 21:25 < GodEater> I'd need a magnifying glass 21:26 < GodEater> right - my g/f wants me to come to bed - so I'll chat to you guys tomorrow 21:26 < DataGhost> I need a 2160p 30" or something 21:26 < GodEater> #rockbox only in the day :) 21:26 < DataGhost> hf :) 21:26 < GodEater> can't use their irc client to come here 21:26 < DerPapst_> i think that is the most insteresting picture ;) http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot/IMG_7593.jpg 21:26 < GodEater> laterrrrrr! 21:27 -!- GodEater [i=bryan@host-84-9-15-114.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"] 21:27 < DataGhost> hm? 21:27 < DataGhost> the 32130 part? 21:27 < DerPapst_> lol @ his quit message 21:27 < DataGhost> hehe 21:27 < DataGhost> oh by the way, if you want to link anything, feel free 21:27 < DataGhost> I've got unlimited traffic anyway 21:27 < DerPapst_> includes everything about the disk 21:27 < DataGhost> ah ok :) 21:28 < DerPapst_> sectors, size and LBAthingy 21:28 < linuxstb> DerPapst_: Why not simply modify your partition table to divide the values by 4? The IPL kernel should be happy then. 21:28 < DataGhost> that's what I suggested too 21:28 < DataGhost> but I said multiply 21:28 < DataGhost> well 21:28 < DataGhost> now I've got it running I can try 21:28 < linuxstb> One or the other, I'm tired... 21:28 < DataGhost> well I'm not entirely sure myself 21:29 < DataGhost> so 21:29 < DerPapst_> linuxstb: i'm not sure it will work 21:29 < DataGhost> let's figure out how an MBR is built, not sure if fdisk can do that for me 21:29 < linuxstb> fdisk is quite flexible. 21:30 < DataGhost> huh? NTLDR? on an iPod? :o 21:30 < DerPapst_> you can check out mp's mbr thingy.. and if you wait i have found the dirty mbr hack from the rb forum in google cache 21:30 < DataGhost> well linuxstb without tweaking anything the only thing i can set is the starting cylinder :P not sector 21:30 < DataGhost> but i'll have to rtfm probably 21:31 < DataGhost> -b sectorsize 21:31 < DataGhost> hmm 21:31 < DataGhost> it's worth the shot I guess 21:32 < DataGhost> Units = sectors of 1 * 2048 = 2048 bytes 21:32 < DataGhost> there we go 21:32 < DataGhost> now i figurd that out :D 21:32 < DataGhost> hm 21:32 < DataGhost> now everything is 4x as small 21:32 < DataGhost> i think i just have to modify the table, heh 21:33 < DataGhost> i thnk i do have to multiply 21:34 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@99.24.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 21:35 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:39 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: maybe that helps: http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/mbr-hack 21:39 * DataGhost heartbeat 21:39 < DataGhost> sec 21:39 < DataGhost> pic 21:39 < deameyes> the 2.95 toolchain wouldn't work on linux on any arm architecture, correct? 21:39 < DerPapst_> err what? 21:40 < DerPapst_> ah.. missread something 21:40 < BleuLlama> agbh. stupid webserver 21:41 < DerPapst_> heh 21:41 < DerPapst_> i bet one day there are like 100 supersuers that are fixing ther server day and night ^^ 21:42 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7621.jpg 21:42 < DataGhost> i can t type 21:42 < DataGhost> anymore 21:42 < DataGhost> bit shaking 21:42 < DataGhost> excitement 21:42 < DataGhost> linuxstb you'll want to see that 21:42 < DerPapst_> whoha 21:42 * DerPapst_ wants the kernel 21:42 < DerPapst_> NOW!!! 21:43 < DerPapst_> ;) 21:43 < DataGhost> same kernel 21:43 * DerPapst_ wants the mbr 21:43 < DataGhost> so 21:43 < DataGhost> create start=32130 end=something further 21:43 < DataGhost> make partition 21:43 < DataGhost> remove.. create start=32130*4, end=end*4+3 21:43 < DataGhost> and I changed the fat32 just for consistency 21:44 < DerPapst_> hehe 21:44 < DataGhost> don't have a userland though 21:44 < DataGhost> i'm gonna do that now ;P 21:44 < DataGhost> oh wait i'll have to switch mbrs all the time 21:44 < DerPapst_> i have a simple userland 21:44 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:44 < DerPapst_> with pz2 already installed 21:44 < DerPapst_> want it? 21:44 < DataGhost> sure :) :D 21:44 < DerPapst_> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/userland.tar.gz 21:45 -!- kfm82lin2s is now known as kfm82links 21:45 < DerPapst_> may i link the image from you? 21:46 < DataGhost> lol i jsut told you 21:46 < DataGhost> i dont have a limit 21:46 < DataGhost> :P 21:46 < DataGhost> so you can 21:47 < DataGhost> what the f$&* 21:47 < DataGhost> podzilla is eh 21:47 < DataGhost> booting 21:47 < DataGhost> :P 21:47 < DerPapst_> w000000000t! 21:48 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:48 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:48 * BleuLlama kicks the webservetr 21:49 < DerPapst_> can you in podzilla go to Extras > About and make another picture? 21:49 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:49 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7622.jpg 21:49 < DataGhost> yes hold on 21:49 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:49 < DataGhost> there is no about 21:49 < DerPapst_> umm.. i think i included that module 21:49 < DataGhost> settings 21:50 < DataGhost> ah :) 21:50 < DerPapst_> ah ;) 21:50 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: Google's cache is fine until the server feels like working again ;) 21:50 < BleuLlama> should be back up, as of 2 minutes ago 21:51 < DataGhost> so 21:51 < DerPapst_> hehe 21:51 < DataGhost> I'm actually the first one to have podzilla in a 5.5G 80GB :P 21:51 < DataGhost> on* 21:51 < DerPapst_> yep 21:51 < DataGhost> \o/ 21:51 < DerPapst_> congrats! 21:51 < DataGhost> thanks :D 21:52 < deameyes> http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/uclinux-elf-tools/ are the arm binaries for installing on the arm device or compiling for it? 21:52 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7623.jpg 21:52 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7624.jpg 21:52 < DataGhost> :) 21:52 < DerPapst_> errmm... i think the server has a bad day 21:52 < DataGhost> load 60 looks like some sort of DoS imo 21:53 < DataGhost> i'm gonna make a post :) 21:53 < DerPapst_> where? 21:53 < DataGhost> and crop something 21:53 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:53 < DataGhost> 5.5G thread? :) 21:53 < DerPapst_> in rb forum? 21:53 < DataGhost> yeah guess so 21:53 < DerPapst_> ok.. then. 21:54 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:54 * DerPapst_ hits the backspace several times ;) 21:54 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:54 < DerPapst_> post the partitiontable and this 2 pic. http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7621.jpg http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7624.jpg 21:54 < DataGhost> yeah 21:55 < BleuLlama> nice job, guys 21:55 < DerPapst_> :) thanks 21:56 < DataGhost> thx :) 21:56 * DerPapst_ thinks loud.. "if the server is back up i might be fast enough to edit the 5.5G article ..." 21:57 < analeptic> http://opax.swin.edu.au/~reino/nanolinux.htm, will the guide - sufficiently reconstructed make ipodlinux on 2gb nano work? 21:57 < DerPapst_> 2gb or 2g? 21:57 < analeptic> 2GB 21:58 < DerPapst_> i think yes.. but there is no page... 21:58 < DerPapst_> ehh.. 21:58 < analeptic> is something missing? 21:58 < DerPapst_> o. there was that , in my url 21:59 < DerPapst_> omg... 21:59 < DerPapst_> that thing is old 21:59 < BleuLlama> stupid freaing webserver 21:59 < DerPapst_> hehe 21:59 < analeptic> http://www.theplaceforitall.com/linuxnano/ , then? 21:59 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 < analeptic> 1.2~y/o 22:00 < DerPapst_> do you have a mac? 22:00 < analeptic> x86 22:00 < BleuLlama> try now 22:01 < DerPapst_> so yes or no? i have a x86 processor myself ;) 22:02 -!- ikill [n=xtheacad@c-71-230-92-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 < ikill> yo 22:02 < ikill> can someone help me 22:03 < ikill> i cant get ipod linux to work on my nano 22:03 < ikill> the installer shuts down 22:03 < DataGhost> done DerPapst_ 22:03 < DataGhost> :P 22:04 < ikill> hey data 22:04 < ikill> can you help me 22:04 < DataGhost> dunno 22:04 < DataGhost> DerPapst_ is it supposed to be 'slow', though? 22:04 < DataGhost> or don't you have any reference-iPod video/color 22:04 < ikill> oh 22:04 < ikill> ipod linux 22:04 < ikill> ya 22:04 < DataGhost> oh on your nano 22:04 < ikill> ipod linux runs slow 22:04 < DataGhost> I don't have a nano 22:05 < ikill> the transition atleast 22:05 < ikill> u can change it 22:05 < ikill> u dont need a nano 22:05 < DataGhost> and if you say 'it shuts down' I don't know what it does 22:05 < DataGhost> and I don't use the installer 22:05 < BleuLlama> ikill: spell out your words 22:05 < DataGhost> never did 22:05 < ikill> oh sorry 22:05 < ikill> bleu 22:05 < ikill> can you help me 22:05 < BleuLlama> make sure your sysinfo file is valid, past that, nano is unsupported, so you're on your own 22:06 < ikill> but i used it before 22:06 < ikill> how do i install linux manalluy 22:06 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: nice post :) 22:06 < DataGhost> thanks :) 22:06 < BleuLlama> you read one of the many howtos on the wiki or the forums 22:06 < DataGhost> I need a drink 22:06 < DataGhost> my room is hot anyway 22:06 < DataGhost> but I'm sweating and shaking a little bit :P 22:06 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:06 < DataGhost> in all excitement 22:07 * DataGhost -> icecubes \o/ 22:07 < ikill> but bleu its not a problem with my ipod 22:07 < ikill> its with the installer 22:07 < BleuLlama> ikill: it's not my problem either. i don't use the installer. if it worked for you in the past, do whatever you did then. 22:10 < DataGhost> back again :) 22:14 < DerPapst_> yay! the server was up long enough for me ;) http://www.ipodlinux.org/5.5G 22:15 < BleuLlama> what are the issues that the kernel has? 22:15 < DerPapst_> It has problems parcing the partitiontable properly 22:15 < BleuLlama> ah 22:16 < DerPapst_> but this is only an issue for winpods afaik 22:16 < BleuLlama> so. 80gb 5.5g macpods should work? 22:17 < DerPapst_> i think yes. 22:17 < BleuLlama> nifty 22:17 * BleuLlama runs his 80 as a winpod 22:17 < DerPapst_> but you have to replace the apple_fw to run the kernel 22:17 < BleuLlama> one or the other? 22:18 < DerPapst_> i don't understand the question... 22:18 < ikill> someone help me the installed shuts down when i do it 22:18 < BleuLlama> you can have either appleos OR linux kernel, but not both? 22:18 < DataGhost> what's the difference between winpods and macpods anyway 22:18 < DataGhost> they all use fat32 now, right? 22:18 < DataGhost> because mine is a winpod afaik 22:18 < BleuLlama> macpods use HFS+ as their data partition 22:18 < DerPapst_> yes. the current loader has no driver for the hdd 22:18 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 22:19 < DataGhost> oh the loader doesnt work with winpods 22:19 < BleuLlama> still... awesome work 22:19 < DataGhost> ah :) 22:19 < DataGhost> this is indeed without a loader yeah 22:19 < DerPapst_> the loader doesn'T even work with macpods ;) 22:19 < DataGhost> I tihnk the people in that 5.5G thread can manage to do that :P 22:19 < DerPapst_> i hope that too ;9 22:19 < BleuLlama> loader2 on other ipod versions works fine 22:19 < DerPapst_> err i mean ;) 22:19 < BleuLlama> on my 3 macpods, i use loader 2 22:20 < DerPapst_> yes. but it is only compartible to ata 2 drives but this is an ata 7 one 22:20 < BleuLlama> aha 22:20 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:20 < DerPapst_> so someone has to port the linux driver to the loader. 22:21 < ikill> i want to get mdp on my nano but it dont 22:21 < ikill> work 22:21 < DerPapst_> (which sound easier than it is) 22:21 < BleuLlama> that's always how it is, DerPapst. heh 22:22 -!- BleuLlama changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: http://ipodlinux.org || 4G iPods and above are officially UNSUPPORTED, please be clueful when asking. || Messed up iPod? /msg iplbot broken || Please ask before PMing || When asking for help, please state OS and iPod generation. || Development discussion: #ipodlinux-dev || Please, spell out your words in here. THANKS! 22:22 < DerPapst_> haha 22:23 < DerPapst_> out of curiosity.. is any of the core devs 1337 enough to to something like this? 22:23 < BleuLlama> something like what? 22:23 < DerPapst_> porting the driver 22:23 < BleuLlama> ah. 22:23 < BleuLlama> perhaps. not me though 22:24 < DerPapst_> (btw: i don't beg for that ;) ) 22:24 < BleuLlama> most of us have been pretty busy with various things recently 22:24 < DataGhost> dev channel, nice 22:25 < DataGhost> well DerPapst_ either they'll have to figure things out with the ata7-spec and the new information about sectors 22:25 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: is your fat partition still formated with a logical sectorsite of 2048? 22:25 < DataGhost> or they'll have to port the driver indeed 22:25 < DataGhost> or an option to boot appleos from linux :P 22:25 < DataGhost> eh I didn't change any of the partitions 22:25 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:25 < DataGhost> just the table 22:25 < DataGhost> and I didn't adjust the last sector of my fat32 partition 22:25 < DerPapst_> oh 22:25 < DataGhost> only the first 22:25 < DataGhost> I don't think fdisk would have let me 22:25 < DataGhost> however 22:26 < DerPapst_> so if you dd the apple_fw back you should be still able to sync your music? 22:26 -!- analeptic [n=eip@c-022ae655.31-4-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:26 < DataGhost> yes 22:26 < DataGhost> and the partitiontable 22:26 < ikill> should i use podzilla 1 or 2 22:26 < DataGhost> that is, if ipl doesn't write stuff 22:26 < DataGhost> :P 22:26 < DerPapst_> aha.. 22:27 < DerPapst_> btw. are you german? 22:27 < ikill> this shit is banana's b-a-n-a-n-a-s 22:27 < DataGhost> nope 22:27 < DataGhost> dutch :) 22:28 < ikill> dude 22:28 < ikill> why wont mdp work 22:28 < ikill> what do i have to install to listen to music 22:28 < DerPapst_> ah. because you said something from a german server. 22:28 < DataGhost> yes 22:28 < DataGhost> the server is located in germany 22:28 < DataGhost> cheap hosting :) 22:28 < DerPapst_> heh 22:28 < ikill> how do i listen to music on my ipod 22:28 < DataGhost> virtual dedicated server, 15GB storage and unlimited traffic 22:28 < DataGhost> and root shell etc 22:28 < ikill> bleu: how do i listen to music on ipodlinux 22:29 < DataGhost> Last sector or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (257040-156301487, default 156301487): 625205951 22:29 < DataGhost> Value out of range. 22:29 < DataGhost> bah :P 22:29 * DataGhost takes a look at the expert options 22:29 < DerPapst_> heh.. how much do you have to pay for that? 22:29 < DataGhost> 15 euro/month 22:30 < DerPapst_> oha.. thats not very cheap 22:30 < ikill> for music do i need mdpc 22:30 < DataGhost> cheap enough for root and unlimited traffic 22:30 < DerPapst_> ikill: yes 22:30 < DataGhost> on 100mbit 22:30 < DataGhost> :) 22:30 < DerPapst_> nice o.O 22:30 < ikill> der: what else 22:31 < BleuLlama> ikill: did you read the wiki or the forums at all? 22:31 < DerPapst_> mpd and enough free ram 22:31 < ikill> bleu: i cant find it in there can you please give me a link 22:31 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.org 22:31 < ikill> not to that 22:31 < DerPapst_> DataGhost: i have 150MB and free trafic too.. as long as i study ;) 22:31 < ikill> to where i can find out how to do this 22:32 < BleuLlama> do you want me to type everything into the search box for you too? 22:32 < ikill> i dont mean that 22:32 < ikill> i mean i cant find it 22:32 < DerPapst_> i think that is what he wants ;) 22:32 < DataGhost> yeah DerPapst_ same @ TU/e 22:32 < DataGhost> 250MB though i guess :P 22:33 < BleuLlama> i just typed into the search field, and right away, it went right to the page listing. 22:33 < DerPapst_> a year ago i only had 50MB :D 22:33 < ikill> what did u typ 22:33 < BleuLlama> ikill: if you can't figure out how to use a search box, i really can't help you 22:33 < DerPapst_> i guess mpd? 22:33 < BleuLlama> spell out your words. you've been promoted to /ignore 22:33 < ikill> omg 22:33 < ikill> lol 22:33 < ikill> wtf? 22:33 < ikill> rofl 22:34 -!- ikill was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 22:34 < DataGhost> :') 22:34 < DerPapst_> ^^ 22:34 < DataGhost> now fdisk isn't cooperating 22:34 < DataGhost> guess I'll have to figure out how the mbr works by hexeditor 22:34 < DerPapst_> what are you trying to do? 22:34 < DataGhost> well the ending sector of my fat32 partition should be 4x as far away 22:34 < DataGhost> but fdisk won't let me 22:35 < DerPapst_> maybe this can help you: http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/mbr-hack/ 22:35 < BleuLlama> i bet he didn't even realize he's been kicked off channel 22:35 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:35 < DataGhost> or he doesn't know what happened :P 22:35 < DataGhost> [23:33:52] (ikill): wtf? <-- 22:35 < BleuLlama> yeah 22:35 < DataGhost> he's repeating that now 22:35 < BleuLlama> hehe. 22:35 < DataGhost> really... I already wondered why my browser wouldn't open the link 22:35 < DerPapst_> ikill: "uh oh. wtf heppenz0rz?!?!!" 22:35 < DataGhost> i never doubleclicked it 22:36 -!- ikill [n=xtheacad@c-71-230-92-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:36 < ikill> hey guys sorry 22:36 < ikill> i just got it to work 22:36 -!- ikill was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 22:36 < BleuLlama> oops 22:36 < DerPapst_> lol 22:36 < BleuLlama> wrong key 22:36 -!- ikill [n=xtheacad@c-71-230-92-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 < BleuLlama> my bad 22:36 < ikill> i apoligized! 22:36 < ikill> got to go though 22:37 < BleuLlama> and notice that you did it without us walking you through it 22:37 < BleuLlama> i suggest you try that first from here on out before asking us basic questions that a simple search would give you the answers to 22:37 < BleuLlama> wow. that was horrible grammar. sorry about that 22:37 < DerPapst_> i didn't even noticed that :-/ 22:38 < DataGhost> oh.. it doesn't define start and end but start and length? :o 22:42 < DerPapst_> thats too leet for me ^^ 22:43 < BleuLlama> Huzzah! MikModule 1.4 needs to be dumped. i screwed up something and it hemorrhages and double-frees memory. oops 22:43 * BleuLlama starts into 1.5 22:44 < DerPapst_> oha 22:44 * DerPapst_ better keeps 1.3 then ;) 22:44 < BleuLlama> 1.4 will not be released 22:44 < BleuLlama> in fact, it no longer exists 22:44 * BleuLlama goes back to 1.3 22:44 < DerPapst_> hehe 22:45 < DataGhost> phew 22:45 < DataGhost> let's hope that's right 22:45 < DataGhost> partition length 253FF6B0 22:46 < DataGhost> Cylinder-head-sector address of the last sector in the partition 22:46 < DataGhost> }:| 22:46 < DataGhost> and let's hope it doesn't read that 22:46 < DerPapst_> not 0xdeadbeef? 22:46 < DataGhost> or ignores it 22:46 < DataGhost> because it's too big :P 22:48 * DerPapst_ stares at DataGhost 22:48 < DataGhost> /dev/sda2 257040 625205951 1249897824 b W95 FAT32 22:48 < DataGhost> :D 22:48 < DataGhost> that looks allright \o/ 22:48 < DataGhost> no 22:49 < DataGhost> mount still failed 22:49 < DataGhost> maybe I got the start wrong.. 22:49 < DataGhost> no it should be allright 22:49 < DataGhost> pff 22:49 < DataGhost> let's modify podzilla out of ther because it throws a lot of errors at me just before booting pz 22:49 < DataGhost> saying it cant mount hda2 22:50 < DerPapst_> heh 22:52 < DataGhost> time for pics again 22:54 < DataGhost> it can't read from sector 257040 22:54 < DataGhost> :( 22:54 < DataGhost> I wonder what it should be then 22:55 < DerPapst_> ... which is the point where the ext3 partition starts? 22:55 < DataGhost> no 22:55 < DataGhost> where fat32 starts 22:55 < DataGhost> it can see ext3 22:55 < DerPapst_> a 22:55 < DataGhost> i multiplied ext3 by 4 and it works 22:55 < DataGhost> i multiplied fat32 by 4 and it doesn't 22:55 < DerPapst_> heh 22:55 < DataGhost> or maybe.. 22:55 < DataGhost> maybe i fubar'ed the fat32 partition :P 22:56 < DerPapst_> foobar is always good 22:56 < DataGhost> the music player, yes 22:56 < DataGhost> :) 22:56 < DerPapst_> there is a player called foobar? 22:56 < DerPapst_> lol 22:57 < DataGhost> i'm using it right now 22:57 < DataGhost> foobar2000 22:57 < DataGhost> :) 22:57 < DataGhost> http://fast.dataghost.com/foobar2000-20060618.png 22:57 < DataGhost> scriptable :) 22:57 < DerPapst_> heh 22:58 < DerPapst_> i don't know any of this songs :D 22:58 < DataGhost> hm 22:58 < DataGhost> hehe 22:58 < DataGhost> I wonder if FAT distinguishes between 512 and 2048b-sectors 22:58 < DataGhost> and if so, how 22:58 < DataGhost> :P 22:59 < DerPapst_> you can format it with different logical sectorsizes... (if that helps) 23:00 < DataGhost> heh i'd like to not format it 23:00 < DataGhost> and it was formatted in the factory by the way 23:00 < DataGhost> I never had to initialize it 23:00 < DerPapst_> ah. ok 23:00 < DataGhost> http://de.dataghost.com/ipl/boot2/IMG_7637.jpg 23:00 < DataGhost> :( 23:00 < DataGhost> i removed podzilla from rc, fyi :) 23:03 < DerPapst_> heh.. i can host a website on your server? 23:03 < DataGhost> only thing that shoulds remotely logical is that it's padded by 3 512b-sectors 23:03 < DataGhost> eh. I guess so but i cancelled it 23:03 < DataGhost> so it'd gone 31-07 23:03 < DataGhost> it's* 23:04 < DataGhost> helios 5g # d /mnt/ipod 23:04 < DataGhost> Calendars Contacts Marvell Notes VIA_HyperionPro_V510A ad1980 iPod_Control linux.bin 23:04 < DataGhost> :( 23:04 < DataGhost> it still works too 23:04 < DerPapst_> aha. otherwise i would have ordered 150MB webspace :D 23:05 < DataGhost> hehe 23:05 < DataGhost> hm I guess, since the ending doesn't matter, I can just edit the partitiontable with a broken ending 23:05 < DataGhost> it'll complain later 23:05 < DataGhost> :) 23:05 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 -!- amiconn [n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:06 < DerPapst_> and the apple_fw souldn't complain either... it maybe just can't read anything 23:06 < DataGhost> hm? 23:06 < DataGhost> what apple_fw? 23:06 < DataGhost> oh that 23:06 < DataGhost> i get it :) 23:07 < DataGhost> ah well, to the apple FW my partition doesn't start at the start 23:07 < DataGhost> because I guess it multiplies everything 23:07 < DataGhost> doh 23:08 < DataGhost> now it's a linuxpartition :P 23:08 < DataGhost> i need more cafeine in a bit 23:08 < DerPapst_> hehe 23:09 < DataGhost> I wish it'd just try 8 sectors around the start :P 23:09 < DataGhost> this is quite time-consuming 23:09 < DerPapst_> i don't even understand what you are trying to do :D 23:10 < DataGhost> trying to alter the start of the partition 23:10 < DataGhost> maybe it's padded by 1-4 blocks to the beginning or end 23:10 < DataGhost> let's hope ext3 doesn't rely on the partitiontable to define its end 23:10 < DataGhost> because fdisk wont let me overlap partitions :P 23:11 < DerPapst_> to do what? that the kernel can use the ext3 partition and the fat32 partition? 23:11 < DataGhost> well it can only use the ext3 partition 23:11 < DataGhost> it doesn't see the fat32 partition 23:11 < DataGhost> so i don't have any files/music 23:11 < DataGhost> that's the strange bit, because i changed them both in the same way 23:12 < DerPapst_> that might be the same problem for the 30Gb winpod users. 23:12 < DataGhost> do tell 23:13 < HellDragon2> hm 23:14 < DerPapst_> the kernel just isn't able to parse the partition table correctly. I think it has to detect the sectorsize somewhere fisrt in order to work with it correctly 23:15 < DerPapst_> but i'm a noob if it goes to hardware near programming and stuff 23:19 < HellDragon2> 5.5G is evil :'( 23:19 < DataGhost> hehe 23:19 < DataGhost> well I think I could just make a huge ext3 partition and put my music on there :P 23:19 < DataGhost> until fat32 works :) 23:20 < DerPapst_> hehe.. i bet you don't wan to do that. 23:20 < DerPapst_> you accu only will last 1/3 of the time 23:20 < DataGhost> hehe 23:21 < HellDragon2> I'm trying to get a 4G on ebay lol 23:21 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@99.24.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 23:21 < DataGhost> http://www.hinterlehner.at/images/effekta/batterien/12V-200AH-200.gif DerPapst_ 23:21 < DataGhost> with a nice carrying handle 23:21 < DataGhost> :) 23:21 < DerPapst_> HAHA 23:22 < DataGhost> New iPod 6G! 3 weeks battery life 23:22 < HellDragon2> it will have an encrypted ipl like the nano 2g, so useless 23:22 < DerPapst_> no that would be something like 5.8G 23:23 < DerPapst_> the enhanced, enhanced 5G ipod 23:23 < DataGhost> :D 23:23 < DerPapst_> but i think this will work 23:26 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@THC.LEOHUT.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:27 < DataGhost> now let's hope nobody put anything int he last 2048 bytes 23:27 < DataGhost> :P 23:28 * DerPapst_ hopes that too 23:28 < DataGhost> seems ok 23:28 < DataGhost> still no fat32 23:30 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: the server needs some love. 23:33 < DataGhost> i'm gonna get me some cafeine right now 23:33 < DataGhost> i just attempted to edit my partition table with nano 23:34 < DataGhost> nano /dev/sda 23:34 < DataGhost> :P 23:34 < bushblows> HellDragon2: how much would you be selling that for, what comes with it, and what condition is it in? 23:34 < DerPapst_> get the cafeine intravenous. it's much faster and better :P 23:34 -!- FuRkLe [n=furkle@bas1-stcatharines10-1167946062.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 23:34 < DataGhost> everyone is asleep :( 23:35 < DataGhost> i'll just have to do with agressive music then 23:35 < DataGhost> Now Playing: 9494. The Berzerker - [(2002) Dissimulate #10] Pure Hatred (00:11/01:24, 256Kbps, mp3) 23:35 < DerPapst_> hehe 23:37 < DataGhost> it's not at 64260 either 23:37 < DataGhost> pfffff 23:37 < DerPapst_> heh 23:39 < DataGhost> i'm gonna search for a fat32 signature :) 23:39 < DataGhost> dd if=/dev/sda of=stukschijf bs=512 skip=257000 count=100 23:39 < DataGhost> should work 23:40 < DerPapst_> good luck 23:40 < DataGhost> thanks :) 23:41 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:42 -!- hhehw [i=spike@THC.LEOHUT.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:42 < DataGhost> starts at 0x5000 23:42 < DataGhost> as expected 23:42 < DataGhost> :( 23:42 < DataGhost> the rest before that is just null 23:43 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: loving 23:43 < DerPapst_> :) 23:43 < DataGhost> hehe 23:44 < DataGhost> BleuLlama / DerPapst_ are you running anything with fat32? 23:44 < DataGhost> oh wait 23:44 < DataGhost> I have an external drive with fat32 somewhere 23:44 < DataGhost> i need to see a 'normal' fat32 partition if the apple one is so special 23:45 < deameyes> if a version of debian runs on an arm processor that still means the toolchain needs to be for arm, right? 23:46 < DerPapst_> right 23:46 * Soap likes the idea of apt-get ipod updates. 23:47 < deameyes> and the arm binaries for the toolchains on uclinux are for building on x86 to run on arm, correct? 23:47 < DataGhost> hm 23:47 < DataGhost> i need to get some cafeine out of me 23:47 < DataGhost> ;) 23:47 < DataGhost> brb 23:47 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:48 < BleuLlama> DataGhost: my 80gb 5.5 is fat, but i'm not putting ipl on it until it's stable... as it is i might not do it at all, since i have ipl on my 3 other ipods 23:50 < DataGhost> nah well mine is FAT too 23:50 < DataGhost> but actually i just needed the dd output of the start of a 'real' fat32 partition 23:50 < DataGhost> if that is different from the 'apple' fat32 partition 23:51 < DataGhost> because even with dd i get the partition at the expected location 23:51 < DataGhost> but ipl doesn't read it 23:51 < DataGhost> which is very strange, since it does read the ext3 partition in exactly the same way 23:51 < DataGhost> except for that's ext3 and somewhere else on the disk :) 23:51 < BleuLlama> it's not with me right now. sorry 23:51 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54452db8.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 23:52 < DataGhost> :) 23:53 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FE802.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:53 < DerPapst_> so you only need the first sector of what? a 80GB winpod or any other random fat32 device? 23:55 < DataGhost> hm 23:55 < DataGhost> no 23:55 < DataGhost> random fat32 device 23:55 < DataGhost> but I already have it 23:55 < DerPapst_> ok 23:55 < DataGhost> the first byte is the same 23:55 < DataGhost> the next 70 bytes are different 23:55 < DataGhost> and then i see 'IPOD' on my iPod 23:55 < DataGhost> and 'NO NAME' on my other disk 23:56 < DataGhost> so.. i'll have to dig up the spec for that 23:56 < DataGhost> especially the 2nd byte concerns me for some reason 23:56 < DerPapst_> ^ that makes my head hurt.... 23:57 < DataGhost> and 0x3 to 0xA says 'MSWIN4.1' on my maxtor 23:57 < DataGhost> *UOKJIHC on my iPod 23:59 < BleuLlama> did you name your iPod "*UOKJIHC"? 23:59 < DataGhost> no 23:59 < DataGhost> i named it IPOD --- Log closed Tue Jan 16 00:00:00 2007