--- Log opened Thu Jan 11 00:00:04 2007 00:00 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:00 -!- travis134 [n=travisse@ip70-190-39-33.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:00 < travis134> omg, have you all seen the iPhone? 00:00 < Ditch64> yeah 00:00 < Ditch64> its expensive 00:01 < Ditch64> so who cares 00:01 < travis134> Pft lol 00:01 < travis134> A month at minimum wage is worth 1 awesome PDA 00:01 < Ditch64> wait 2 years 00:01 < Ditch64> itll be 100 bucks 00:01 < travis134> ive been waiting for Apple to remake the newton 00:01 < travis134> and it looks awesome 00:01 < Stalwart> i don't like iphone 00:01 < travis134> it doesnt like you either im sure 00:01 < travis134> jk lol 00:02 < Stalwart> i expected ipod + phone, not pda + everything and coffe maker 00:02 < travis134> iPhone + Service Plan = Poorhouse 00:02 < travis134> the new commercial 00:02 < travis134> lol 00:02 < travis134> i wouldnt buy it if it was jsut a phone and ipod 00:02 < travis134> cant wait til lfeb either 00:03 < travis134> preordered the AppleTV 00:03 < travis134> gonna review it 00:03 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 00:04 < Ditch64> oh boy 00:04 < Ditch64> ummmm 00:04 < Stalwart> TV sucks 00:04 < Ditch64> so do i have to have linux on my computer to browse the ipods files? 00:04 < Stalwart> no 00:04 < travis134> its the best IPTV out there 00:04 < travis134> currently 00:04 < Ditch64> because ext2ifs is weird 00:04 < Stalwart> TV just sucks 00:04 < Ditch64> the installation method is weird 00:04 < Stalwart> fine insatllation method 00:04 < travis134> pft lol 00:05 < travis134> it uses wireless N too which is awesome 00:05 < travis134> and only $300 00:05 < Stalwart> why do you need tv? 00:05 < travis134> appletv mr 00:05 < Ditch64> um ok i got the driver running 00:05 < Stalwart> it's a tv, you can't adblock it ;[ 00:06 < Ditch64> exactly 00:06 < travis134> To watch my Podcasts, iTunes movies, iTunes music, etc on my home theatre system with full 5.1 surround sound and 40 inch dlp tv 00:06 < Ditch64> TVio was adblocking for a while until they got sued 00:06 < travis134> :/ 00:07 < Stalwart> you can make home theatre using mythtv and/or freevo 00:07 < travis134> if you are cheap 00:07 < Ditch64> um 00:08 < travis134> I dont understand why you guys dont like this 00:08 < Ditch64> so hey stalwart do i have to have the ipod in apple os or ipodlinux mode? 00:08 < Ditch64> or disk mode 00:08 < travis134> I think that this is the first time Apple has gotten things right 00:08 < travis134> the Dual Core Intel Macs, The iPods, the iPhone, the AppleTV 00:08 < travis134> their sales are skyrocketing 00:08 < travis134> stock went up $6 since iphone announcement 00:08 < Ditch64> yeah cheap chinese shit made to look nice 00:09 < travis134> do you think that apple is the only company that outsources? 00:09 < travis134> if so then your a little wet behind the ears 00:09 < Ditch64> oh i know its not 00:09 < Stalwart> Ditch64: disk mode or appleos 00:09 < Ditch64> but its so fucking fragile 00:09 < Ditch64> ok 00:10 * Stalwart gone to sleep 00:10 < Stalwart> my eye hurts =\ 00:10 < Ditch64> lol 00:10 < Ditch64> cya 00:10 < travis134> dont drop it and youll be fine 00:10 < travis134> gnite 00:10 < Ditch64> pssh yeah 00:10 < Stalwart> not lol at all 00:10 < Ditch64> alrighty 00:10 < Ditch64> cya 00:10 < travis134> seriously, if you drop it and it breaks, thats your fault lol 00:11 < travis134> i know if i bought a $500 product i wouldnt let it leave my hand 00:11 < travis134> get some tabe 00:11 < travis134> tape 00:11 < Celtic_Soul> guys, does the podzilla nightly build come with MPD built-in? 00:12 < Ditch64> wtf 00:12 -!- theman [n=as-above@bas2-toronto63-1096774801.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 00:12 < Ditch64> ok 00:12 < HellDragon2> hey 00:12 < Ditch64> diskmanagment says my ipod is a fat 32 00:13 -!- NsN [i=NsN@wh282.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #ipodlinux 00:13 < Ditch64> isnt it suppose to be ext 00:13 < Ditch64> or w/e 00:13 < Ditch64> ifs 00:13 < NsN> Hi, any comments on http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21655&highlight= ? 00:14 < fxb> faster decoding :) 00:15 < Ditch64> ok holy shiot 00:15 < Ditch64> ueaj 00:15 < Ditch64> hwy is it going so fast 00:16 < NsN> Hi fxb! ;) 00:16 < NsN> fxb: I'm really suprised so many want that. I figured better compression would be more important. 00:17 < NsN> But actually i meant the ipod + snes controller video. I'm guessing its fake. 00:19 < fxb> yeah, might be 00:22 < fxb> looks realistic though 00:23 < Gimp_> soooo :P how long till podzilla gets running on the iphone ;) :P 00:24 < NsN> Yeah, but that would mean either working serial or working USB on a 5G, i'm a bit sceptic because most of the time the controller hides the touchwheel. 00:24 -!- travis134 [n=travisse@ip70-190-39-33.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 00:25 < NsN> Gimp_: As a very rough guess: Definately not before June :P 00:25 -!- travis134 [n=travisse@ip70-190-39-33.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:26 -!- kfm82lin3s [n=kfm82@p54BEF98C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:26 < fxb> every dev already got one for free 00:26 < fxb> ;) 00:27 < fxb> NsN: he says something about USB 00:27 < NsN> I guess that would get us a lot of very motivated contributors! 00:28 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit ["Bye !"] 00:28 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:28 < NsN> fxb: Yes if i understand him correctly he added an extra port to the ipod. He might have put something in parallel with the normal input, but that would be mayor surgery... 00:29 < fxb> yeah, i read that. 00:29 < deameyes> who did what with their ipod? 00:29 < fxb> i think i'll go to bed soon. 00:29 < NsN> I should go as well, but i have to write at least to more pages about linebreaks in TeX. 00:29 < NsN> *two 00:30 < NsN> deameyes: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21655&highlight= 00:30 < Gimp_> NsN: oh ill bet it'll be longer than june :P 00:30 < fxb> just write two pages with linebreaks ;) 00:31 < NsN> fxb: I'll just write a small footnote: Examples of different linebreaks *g* 00:31 < fxb> :) 00:32 < Gimp_> hmm, whats the max rez for ipods now? for videos 00:33 < Gimp_> 640 x something? 00:33 < NsN> Gimp_: Unfortunatelly it looks like its not the normal OS X, otherwise we could have a podzilla desktop build running on it within a few hours after release *g* 00:33 < fxb> 640x480 00:33 < erus> wow iPhone has 3d 00:33 < Gimp_> NsN: well its really a REALLY slimmed down version of os X 00:33 < erus> as in it has 3d? 00:34 < Gimp_> as they say, its capable of running desktop class apps 00:34 < Ditch64> oooooook 00:34 < Celtic_Soul> guys, any idea about this mpd error: config parameter "db_file" not found? 00:34 < BHSPitMonkey> Windows Mobile handhelds could have CALLED Windows Mobile "Windows XP", similiarly. 00:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o josh ] by ChanServ 00:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-s ] by josh 00:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o josh ] by josh 00:35 < NsN> Gimp_: Yeah, but until i see a 3rd party application running on it i'm not holding my breath. I think on engadget they said that 3rd party apps won't be allowed.. 00:35 < Gimp_> i think they'll get running fast though :P 00:35 < NsN> You might be able to make a really complicated widget maybe. 00:35 < BHSPitMonkey> making it the first phone made this year that DOESN'T allow 3rd party apps... 00:35 < fxb> they said it has Cocoa. 00:36 < Gimp_> so yah. 00:36 < NsN> Give me ssh,vlc and mybe vnc and i'm happy 00:36 < BHSPitMonkey> I'd be more interested in A) Running another OS on it completely or B) Taking advantage of the touchpad as an accessory to a PC 00:37 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:37 < Gimp_> :P 00:38 < NsN> Well, A) is of course a given, preferably dual boot. 00:38 < Gimp_> i wouldn't 00:38 < Gimp_> if it can run 3rd party apps, im buying one. 00:38 < NsN> Getting the phone part to work in the other OS might get a bit tricky 00:38 -!- kfm82links [n=kfm82@p54BEDC11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:39 < deameyes> eh iphone looks too bulky for my taste 00:39 < fxb> and the multi-touch screen. 00:39 < Gimp_> deameyes: its not bulky 00:39 < deameyes> course I replaced my pda with my nano+linux 00:39 < Gimp_> its soo skinny :P 00:39 < NsN> Oh, yeah that will be alot of fun too figure out as well. 00:42 < Celtic_Soul> guys, any idea about this mpd error: config parameter "db_file" not found? 00:46 < deameyes> any idea if the ipod_toolchain can be installed on palmlinux? both are arm 00:52 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:01 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 01:14 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:27 < bushblows> i have the latest ipod firmware with loader 2.4 and i tried to put the kernel.bin in the Ipod's root directory, the boot loader recognizes it and lets me select it but it freezes up trying to boot it 01:27 < bushblows> what could cause this, i am trying to add it with the ipod_fw.exe now to see if that would work 01:29 < BleuLlama> sounds like your loader.cfg file isn't set up properly to point to that file 01:31 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host204-173-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:31 < bushblows> thank you 01:32 < bushblows> do i need to create a loader.cfg and add it or do i need to extract it from somewhere 01:33 < bushblows> nm that 01:36 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:41 < Celtic_Soul> guys, does the latest mpd 0.3 work with the lastest podzilla2 svn build? 01:41 -!- erus [n=Tom@client-82-3-241-105.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:41 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:43 < Celtic_Soul> anybody??? 01:45 < Random_Transit> afaik, yes. 01:46 < Random_Transit> although, i tried the latest nightly build this morning, and it went crash happy 01:46 < Random_Transit> you might want to ask courtc himself 01:48 -!- Wireful9001 [n=chatzill@pool-162-83-39-162.sal.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]"] 01:50 -!- travis134_ [n=travisse@ip70-190-39-33.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:58 < deameyes> is gcc all I need to compile legacy? 01:59 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@212.2.170.209] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:59 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@213-202-183-19.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 -!- Celtic_Soul [n=celticso@dyn-83-153-93-91.ppp.tiscali.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:01 -!- Celtic_Soul [n=celticso@dyn-88-122-26-61.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 -!- travis134 [n=travisse@ip70-190-39-33.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:12 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:12 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:16 < Celtic_Soul> guys, does the latest mpd 0.3 work with the lastest podzilla2 svn build? 02:19 < courtc> Yes. 02:22 < Gimp_> anyone here know where i could find the calculus methods for trig functions? the loops and stuff and core? 02:22 < BleuLlama> wow. 02:23 < Gimp_> wow? 02:23 < Gimp_> i need a C library for trig functions, or i need the calculus methods for it so i can build my own functions for it 02:24 < Gimp_> and im having problems finding a library of it 02:26 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:33 -!- pmm [n=pmm@d47-69-94-52.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:35 -!- deameyes_ [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 < pmm> i'm a little confused, is sound not supported with iBoy/iDoom/iNES/iPodMAME at all, or just with 5G, or am i just missing something in my setup? anyone know? 02:36 < pmm> my searching isn't the best, but i didn't find anything definitive in the wikis/forums 02:37 < BleuLlama> ipodmame i don't believe supports sound. not sure of the others 02:39 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:40 -!- deameyes_ [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:41 < pmm> i run iDoom from loader2 because i still haven't figured out how to utilize the external application launcher module, and there is definitely no sound. rockdoom, however, does have sound. is that not idoom? or is it a completely different port? 02:42 < pmm> sorry if these are silly questions. i'm pretty new to all this, but i'm having a hell of a time tinkering about :) 02:44 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:48 -!- Harry1 [n=Bearsbow@c-67-184-49-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 < Harry1> I have loader 2.4 for ipl, and when i click Ipodlinux, it goes thru all that nonsense words, but at the end there is an error, what can i do? 02:51 < courtc> Usually the error messages within "all that nonsense" helps determine the problem. 02:51 < Harry1> ok, once sec 02:52 < Harry1> The last couple words of nonsense is kernal panic: no init found. Try passing g init=option to kernal 02:53 < Harry1> i have rockbox and normal OS and they work great 02:53 < Harry1> i cant figure out the problem 02:54 < Ditch64> umm 02:54 < Ditch64> using ext2ifs, its not getting the ipod 02:54 < Ditch64> any suggestions? 02:54 < Harry1> it worked a little while ago, then when i tried using iboy (i have a 4G) it never worked again 02:55 < Harry1> iboy never worked anyway 02:56 < Ditch64> well im never playin doom... 02:56 < Ditch64> fuck im gonna install linux 02:56 < Ditch64> brb 02:57 < Harry1> ? 02:57 < Ditch64> i cant help ya man lol 02:58 < Ditch64> courtc can probably 02:58 < Harry1> oh, wheres court, wasnt he helpin me before, lol? 02:58 < Harry1> oh 02:58 < Harry1> ok 02:58 < Harry1> thanks 02:58 < Ditch64> yeah 02:58 < Ditch64> lol 02:58 < Ditch64> im in the same boat as u 02:58 < Ditch64> i have NO idea what im doin 02:58 < Ditch64> lol 02:58 < Ditch64> except mine works 02:59 < Harry1> haha, what gen is ur ipod 02:59 < BleuLlama> `spelling 02:59 < courtc> Harry1: erm.. did you install the userland? 02:59 < BleuLlama> please spell out your words 02:59 < courtc> iplbot has disappeared. 03:00 < BleuLlama> :( 03:00 < BHSPitLappy> pmm, there is no sound in iDoom. By design. 03:00 < Harry1> userland? i dont know what that is, i just remembered installing ipl loader 2.4 and then getting iboy from somewhere else? and then my ipod getting that error everytime i try to enter ipl 03:00 < BHSPitLappy> userland = ipod_fs....tar.gz 03:01 < Harry1> i dont think so 03:01 < BHSPitLappy> == the contents of the linux partition 03:01 < Ditch64> mines a 5g 03:01 < BHSPitLappy> contains /bin, /usr, /home, etc 03:01 < Ditch64> 5th generation 03:01 < Harry1> is there a way to easily uninstall linux and reinstall without wiping out my songs or rockbox? 03:02 < BHSPitLappy> Harry1, what OS is it 03:02 < BHSPitLappy> Harry1, and you should have means of backing up your songs on a hard drive. If you don't... then rocks for you. 03:02 < Harry1> OS? like winxp? or generation of ipod? 03:03 < Harry1> i do, but i have 2000 songs! 03:03 < Harry1> takes lots of time to back all that up 03:03 < Harry1> i mean to re put all of it on my ipod 03:03 < BHSPitLappy> so, XP's your answer. 03:04 < Harry1> yeah 03:04 < BHSPitLappy> wah. 03:04 < Harry1> ? 03:04 < BHSPitLappy> if you can't take the time to do necessary steps like making backups, we don't have the time to help you out. 03:05 < courtc> There's something inherently wrong with installing linux on an "embedded" device if you don't have it on your computer. 03:05 < BHSPitLappy> Exactly. 03:05 < courtc> Harry1: What happens *when* your iPod's harddrive goes kaput? 03:05 < Harry1> i have installed linux for a couple years, and it has done no problems, but now it has.... and 03:06 < Harry1> courtc, i have everything backed up 03:06 < BHSPitLappy> Harry1, you have linux on the PC, then? 03:06 < Harry1> it would just take my comp forever to put it back on my ipod 03:06 < Harry1> i do not have linux on my pc, NO 03:06 < BHSPitLappy> www.ubuntu.com 03:07 < Harry1> ? 03:07 < BHSPitLappy> iPodLinux is considerably easier to set up when you're using linux on the computer to do it. 03:07 < courtc> Only because at that point you know something about linux ;) 03:07 < Harry1> So if i download it trhu that site, i would be running 2 OS's 03:07 < Harry1> ? 03:08 < BHSPitLappy> that, and native ext2 access :) 03:08 < Harry1> i dont no anything about linux, so it wouldnt do me any good 03:08 < BHSPitLappy> Harry1, you said you'd installed linux for a couple of years... you didn't just mean on iPods, did you? 03:08 < Harry1> Yes, just on IPODS 03:08 < Harry1> a couple, actually 03:08 < BHSPitLappy> Harry1, if you download an ubuntu cd, you can run linux DIRECTLY from the CD itself. 03:08 < BHSPitLappy> (You can also use the CD to install it onto your computer.) 03:09 < Harry1> i ve had 2 ipods, and done a couple others using ipodlinux.org 03:09 < Harry1> I dont know what linux is on a computer 03:09 < BHSPitLappy> there are also other "liveCD"s out there 03:09 < BHSPitLappy> it's a working computer, on a computer. 03:10 < BHSPitLappy> look at the link. 03:10 < Harry1> i am, its just a bunch of nonsense to me, lol 03:10 < BHSPitLappy> click on "Desktop" 03:10 < Harry1> oh 03:10 < BHSPitLappy> the stuff on that page shouldn't be nonsense to anyone. 03:11 < Harry1> yaeh, i wasnt looking at that page 03:12 < Harry1> i dont think its worth it, no matter what any1 says 03:12 < Harry1> lol 03:12 < BHSPitLappy> kthxbye 03:12 < Harry1> ok then, what a great atmoshphere, cya 03:12 < BleuLlama> 1. spell out your words 03:12 < BHSPitLappy> sorry. 03:12 < courtc> It's not worth it. 03:12 < BleuLlama> 2. if using linux is nonsense to you, you shouldn't be doing it at all 03:12 < Harry1> why should i spell out my words, what does it do 03:13 < BHSPitLappy> oh, you meant him. 03:13 < BleuLlama> 3. troll meter: pegged! [ /] 03:13 < BHSPitLappy> Harry1, it keeps you in here. 03:13 < Harry1> ? what keeps me in here 03:13 * BHSPitLappy gives up trying to even communicate. 03:14 < Harry1> haha, funny.... NOT 03:17 < Harry1> ok... any of u guys use ipodwizard? i got a problem with that too? 03:18 < bushblows> ipodwizard.net has forums and many good tutorials 03:19 < Harry1> yeah, well i hvae a problem that i have never seen before, and ive been using that program for awhile 03:19 < BHSPitLappy> (Notice that it isn't mentioned anywhere in this channel's description.) 03:19 < BleuLlama> please stay on topic and spell out your words 03:20 < Harry1> geez 03:20 < Ditch64> hey u guys i gotta question, can i boot an iso from my ipod? 03:20 < Ditch64> my computer checks the USB ports 03:20 < Ditch64> during boot 03:20 < Harry1> iso for what? 03:20 < Ditch64> linux 03:21 < Ditch64> i am gonna dualboot 03:21 < Harry1> i use isos for other reasons (which i wont say) *ahem* 03:21 < Ditch64> heh 03:21 < Ditch64> .iso 03:21 < Harry1> yeah 03:22 < Ditch64> hm 03:22 < NsN> An iso probably won't work. There are linux flavours for usb sticks that should work, but those will probably want to format your ipod... 03:22 < Ditch64> naw 03:22 < Ditch64> nvm 03:22 < Ditch64> um 03:22 < Ditch64> hey are any of u dual booting? 03:22 < Ditch64> with slax 03:23 -!- Ditch64 was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 03:23 < Harry1> ouch 03:23 -!- Harry1 was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 03:23 < BleuLlama> goodnight all 03:23 * BleuLlama sleeps 03:23 -!- travis134_ [n=travisse@ip70-190-39-33.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Cya'll later"] 03:23 -!- Ditch64 [n=Ditch642@c-68-41-74-231.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:23 < Ditch64> um 03:23 < NsN> Goodnight 03:24 < Ditch64> wow 03:25 < NsN> Just in case you are wondering: BleuLlama really doesn't like abbreviations like "u" 03:25 < NsN> Though he is not really alone with that 03:27 < BHSPitLappy> indeed 03:27 < BHSPitLappy> and, it had been mentioned several times in the previous few minutes 03:27 < BHSPitLappy> Ditch64, you can get a bootloader on the iPod, but it makes iTunes no worky with it. 03:32 < Gimp_> i think he means can you boot an os from your ipod... 03:45 < BHSPitLappy> I know what he means. 03:45 < BHSPitLappy> and I answered him. 03:45 < BHSPitLappy> k? 03:50 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-65-29-58-42.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:50 -!- debonzi_out [n=debonzi@201-1-134-16.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 03:52 < deameyes> is the ld flags command necessary in the makefile for compiling legacy? 03:54 < Ditch64> grrrrrrrrr 03:54 < Ditch64> Ok ok 03:54 < Ditch64> my bad 03:55 < Ditch64> Um, this is pissing me off now, I installed everything right, it was working fine. Now suddenly i plug it into iTunes and my music is off the ipod yet again, aaaaaand iTunes says it cant read it... 03:56 < Ditch64> it read it just fine earlier 03:56 < deameyes> hmmm 03:56 < deameyes> you know what you could do 03:56 < Ditch64> whats that 03:56 < deameyes> install everything on your itunes 03:56 < Ditch64> wha? 03:56 < deameyes> copy the ipod_control folder 03:57 < Ditch64> well i cant browse the directory 03:57 < Ditch64> i dont know how 03:57 < Ditch64> some ext2itf 03:57 < Ditch64> or what ever 03:57 < deameyes> no you don't need to 03:57 < Ditch64> cant get it to work :-/ 03:57 < deameyes> it's on the drive that shows up when you plug it in on windows 03:57 < Ditch64> ok 03:58 < Ditch64> what is it under? 03:58 < Ditch64> theres calander notes and contacts 03:58 < Ditch64> ... 03:59 < deameyes> go to folder options 03:59 < deameyes> under tools 03:59 < Ditch64> show hidden 03:59 < Ditch64> ? 03:59 < deameyes> yea 03:59 < Ditch64> hey look at that 03:59 < Ditch64> lol 03:59 < deameyes> now you have to restore your ipod and put all the itunes songs you want on it 03:59 < deameyes> if they're not on it now 04:00 < Ditch64> oh boy restore again 04:00 < Ditch64> grr 04:00 < deameyes> copy that folder onto your computer, install ipodlinux and copy that from your pc back onto your ipod 04:00 < BHSPitLappy> Ditch64, are your song files there, or not? 04:00 < Ditch64> no 04:00 < Ditch64> they're gone 04:00 < BHSPitLappy> the FXX folders are empty? 04:00 < Ditch64> theyre all in my computer 04:00 < Ditch64> not in the ipod 04:01 < BHSPitLappy> oh 04:01 < BHSPitLappy> but those folders are empty? 04:01 < BHSPitLappy> if the files are still there, foobar2000 could restore the database 04:01 < Ditch64> not so sure what ones your talking about 04:01 < Ditch64> well installing is no biggie 04:02 < Ditch64> should i just use the ipod updater 04:02 < bushblows> i am running loader 2.4 on a 5th gen video and i have rockbox and apple OS working fine, but no matter what i do i cant get ipodlinux to boot from the root directory of the ipod 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> iPod Updater is obsolete, anyway... it's been replaced by iTunes itself 04:03 < bushblows> i have tried many different kernels, any thoughts 04:03 < Ditch64> well 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> bushblows, what happens 04:03 < Ditch64> its not letting me do that 04:03 < bushblows> it freezes on the loading screen from loader 2.4 04:04 < bushblows> i dont think i am missing a step, but can not figure out why it wont run ipl 04:04 < BHSPitLappy> bushblows, before it gets to the menu? 04:04 < bushblows> you mean the loader menu 04:04 < deameyes> what program is responsible for LD Flags? 04:05 < Ditch64> will this ALL be easier if i just install linux? 04:05 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-221ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:05 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-221ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 04:06 < bushblows> i get loader 2.4 menu and it works fine, after i choose to boot to ipl loader 2.4 shows the loading bar goes to the end and freezes their 04:07 -!- pmm [n=pmm@d47-69-94-52.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:10 < Ditch64> so just restore the ipizzle 04:10 < Ditch64> lol 04:10 < Ditch64> " " 04:12 < Ditch64> good lord why is transferring so slow 04:20 < Ditch64> holy crap its 11 gigs 04:21 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:22 < Ditch64> hey wait, anyone here 04:22 < Ditch64> definatly gotta question 04:23 < deameyes> yea? 04:27 -!- Zeraphe [n=zeraphe@ip70-160-233-33.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:40 -!- Ditch64 [n=Ditch642@c-68-41-74-231.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:43 -!- Ditch64 [n=Ditch642@c-68-41-74-231.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:43 < Ditch64> Hey, if i just install linux to another partition will it set itself up for dual boot? 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Yesterday I tried to install pz2 and ipodloader2 manually. No errors during the compiling/installing process. Sadly, after reboot, I found out there were just three options on the bootloader: Apple OS, Disk Mode, Sleep. What can I do to make ipodloader2 recognize linux kernel? (/vmlinuz on /de 13:59 < Drgb> v/sda3) 14:01 < BleuLlama> you need to edit your loader.cfg file 14:01 < Drgb> uh, that's a good start, thanks 14:02 < Drgb> (I suppose it's situated on the linux partition..is it?) 14:05 < Drgb> there's no loader.cfg file at root 14:05 < Drgb> great :D 14:20 < BleuLlama> if there's none there, it's using internal defaults 14:20 < BleuLlama> you'll need to create one and drop it in one of many places. 14:21 < BleuLlama> the wiki page for loader2 i believe has a sample and listing of where it looks for the file 14:21 < Drgb> BleuLlama, I solved, right now 14:21 < Drgb> the manual installation tutorial said to call the kernel "vmlinuz" 14:22 < Drgb> but the Loader_2 wiki page said kernel.bin linux.bin or vmlinux 14:22 < Drgb> just renamed the file 14:22 < Drgb> and everything works 14:22 < Drgb> (except of mpd...ghgh) 14:23 < Drgb> wow, lol, it's quite buggy 14:23 < Drgb> there are characters all over the screen, but it's usable 14:24 -!- woozy_numbat [n=alexey@88.200.167.112] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:32 < BleuLlama> cool. 14:36 < Drgb> I'm going to reinstall the kernel and the userland with another less recent version 14:36 < Drgb> I took the last one from nightly builds 14:37 < Drgb> do you think it's a good idea? 14:37 < Drgb> (I mean, is it a kernel or a software problem in your opinion?) 14:38 < BleuLlama> nah. i'm using up to date stuff on my three ipdos, and it works fine for me 14:39 < Drgb> so do you have any idea of what can be happened? 14:40 < BleuLlama> 'characters all over the screen'? 14:40 < Drgb> yes, ok, let me try to explain 14:40 < Drgb> black characters on white screen 14:41 < Drgb> when I open a menu, words slide and let...a..."stripe of characters" 14:41 < Drgb> and those stripes accumulate 14:41 < BleuLlama> what ipod? 5th gen 60gb? 14:41 < Drgb> yes 14:41 < BleuLlama> i don't know. 14:41 < Drgb> ok, well 14:41 < BleuLlama> i'm sorry. 14:41 < Drgb> I'll try reinstalling, reraping my iPod 14:42 < BleuLlama> you said older kernels worked fine for you? 14:42 < Drgb> it's ok, you helped me a lot 14:42 < Drgb> yes 14:42 < Drgb> but MUCH older 14:42 < BleuLlama> very interesting. 14:42 < Drgb> something like last summer 14:42 < Drgb> let me see if I find the exact version 14:42 < BleuLlama> try the current kernel (that really hasn't changed) but an older version of podzilla2 14:42 < Drgb> (uh, and it wasn't pz2) 14:43 < BleuLlama> oh. that's probably the big one there. 14:43 < BleuLlama> pz0 and pz2 draw the screen completely differently 14:43 < Drgb> well 14:43 < Drgb> I hope it doesn't mean I'm completely fucked 14:43 < Drgb> let's try... 14:44 < BleuLlama> i really don't know. i'm not familair with ipl on 5g 14:44 < BleuLlama> sounds like it could be a bug of some kind in pz2 14:44 < BleuLlama> or ttk or hotdog 14:44 < Drgb> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2007-01-11-kernel.bin.gz 14:44 < Drgb> should I get this one? 14:44 < BleuLlama> sure 14:48 < Drgb> what about precompiled nightly builds of podzilla2? 14:48 < Drgb> I don't know if I should look forward for new versions or go backward 14:49 < BleuLlama> i thought you were using a nightly of pz2? 14:49 < BleuLlama> not that the nightlies have run in a while, but still 14:50 < Drgb> not a nightly 14:50 < Drgb> it was...let me see... 14:50 < BleuLlama> use the most recent one you can find 14:50 -!- erus [n=Tom@client-81-107-217-203.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:56 -!- erus` [n=Tom@client-82-3-241-105.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 14:57 -!- Synapse_ is now known as Synapse 15:02 < Drgb> freakin' cool 15:03 < Drgb> it seems it's working 15:03 < Drgb> (it's loading modules yet, but I can see the status bar) 15:03 < Drgb> well, it works 15:03 < Drgb> thanks guys 15:03 < Drgb> thanks for all the ipodlinux project, it rocks 15:04 < BleuLlama> cool 15:04 < BleuLlama> :) 15:04 < BleuLlama> enjoy! 15:20 < Drgb> reminder: mandelpod freezes everything 15:20 < Drgb> ghgh 15:20 < erus> np Drgb, im glad my hard work is recognised :) 15:21 < Drgb> uh, I was especially interested in a little thing I read about 15:21 < Drgb> I saw someone developed a python scripting interface for podzilla 15:35 -!- debonzi is now known as debonzi_lunch 15:39 -!- RT_Away is now known as Random_Transit 15:40 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:57 -!- debonzi_lunch is now known as debonzi 16:05 -!- erus [n=Tom@client-81-107-217-203.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:06 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:25 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:26 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 16:26 -!- alenax is now known as meiga 16:30 -!- meiga [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:31 -!- alenax [n=amigax@cm31.sigma27.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 16:45 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@201-1-134-16.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 16:48 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@213-202-190-218.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:09 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:15 -!- woozy_numbat [n=alexey@88.200.182.185] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:17 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:33 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@213-202-190-218.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:36 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@213-202-190-218.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:38 -!- CelticSoul [n=celticso@dyn-88-122-26-61.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 17:40 -!- Fossi [n=cmewes@195.177.48.115] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:43 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:51 -!- woozy_numbat [n=alexey@88.200.182.185] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:52 -!- davezz [i=WinNT@cpe-24-198-209-197.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:54 < davezz> I wanted to know if anyone could tell me if my iPod Video 30gb Black can use Linux or not? I think i have OS 5. The ipod is brand new bought during xmas 17:56 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-105-129.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [] 18:10 -!- erus` [n=Tom@ACCF2EC5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:10 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-4570aea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:12 < bushblows> davezz: yes it can, have you been to any of the ipl wiki sites 18:12 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 18:12 -!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-221-119-165.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit ["reboot"] 18:24 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:33 -!- djpoggop [n=djpoggop@ool-44c13efd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:33 < djpoggop> hmm is the iphone supported by ipodlinux 18:41 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2D31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 < DerPapst_> courtc, fxb: mysql killed apache. 19:00 -!- GodEater [i=bryan@host-83-146-15-79.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < scox_vincent> th web site is still not avaible 19:27 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-221ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 19:36 < fxb> DerPapst_: fixed 19:36 < DerPapst_> ok 19:37 < DerPapst_> thanks 19:37 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:40 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 19:42 < scox_vincent> thanks 19:57 -!- thegeek_ [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 < CelticSoul> Hi, can someone help me with mpd? 20:00 -!- djpoggop [n=djpoggop@ool-44c13efd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 20:01 -!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-221-119-165.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ipodlinux 20:03 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:05 -!- GodEater is now known as GodEater|Stuffin 20:06 -!- CelticSoul [n=celticso@dyn-88-122-26-61.ppp.tiscali.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:13 -!- bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20:16 -!- thegeek_ [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [] 20:23 -!- CelticSoul [n=celticso@dyn-88-122-26-61.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host150-209-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:32 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-218-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 < davezz> does anyone know if a aluminum nano 2gb can use ipodlinux 20:33 < BleuLlama> aluminum? you mean rounded sides, metal all the way around? 20:33 < BleuLlama> second generation nano? 20:33 -!- Random_Transit [n=ryan@CPE00119556e2d8-CM0012c9a9ac1c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:34 < davezz> yes 20:34 < BleuLlama> no. ipodlinux does not work on second gen nanos 20:34 < BleuLlama> look through the wiki 20:35 < davezz> ok i also have a 5g video 30bg 20:35 < davezz> will this one work becuse i run the installer and it dont work 20:36 < BleuLlama> you obviously didn't search the forums 20:36 < BleuLlama> or the wiki 20:37 < davezz> alittle 20:37 < BleuLlama> search the forums wth 'sysinfo' 20:37 < davezz> but the ways i found look very hard 20:37 < BleuLlama> do you want me to type it in for you too? 20:38 < davezz> no im looking 20:41 < bushblows> davezz: i answered that question earlier as well 20:41 < bushblows> and also suggested you go look at the wiki pages. 21:04 -!- thegeek [n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ipodlinux 21:17 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-221ee655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["bye"] 21:29 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:46 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:55 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: ping 21:55 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-218-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: pong 21:56 < DerPapst_> do you got my mail? 21:56 < BleuLlama> with the mod files? 21:56 < BleuLlama> yeah 21:56 < DerPapst_> fine 21:56 < BleuLlama> sorry . forgot to reply to ye 21:56 < BleuLlama> i'll be looking into it tonight 21:56 < DerPapst_> it's ok 21:57 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host141-236-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:57 < BleuLlama> thanks for sending them to me 21:57 < DerPapst_> i haven't tested them on the ipod yet. 21:57 < BleuLlama> what was the issue again?ok. 21:57 < BleuLlama> nevermind 21:57 < BleuLlama> it might be a filesize issue 21:57 < DerPapst_> and i think one of them has more than 28 voices ;) 21:58 -!- Drgb [n=berserk@host82-231-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:58 < BleuLlama> heh 21:58 < BleuLlama> there's basically no chance of that running properly on any ipod 21:58 < BleuLlama> just fyi 21:58 < BleuLlama> 28 basically hangs the UI 21:58 < BleuLlama> it still plays, but not interactively 21:58 < BleuLlama> that's another thing i gotta fix 21:58 < BleuLlama> it's on the lsit 21:58 < DerPapst_> hehe.. 21:59 < BleuLlama> list* 21:59 < DerPapst_> ok 21:59 * DerPapst_ loves those frequency dots 21:59 < BleuLlama> have you checked out the "voices" display 21:59 < BleuLlama> (in 1.2) 21:59 < BleuLlama> reeleased it yesterday or this morning or something 22:00 < DerPapst_> not yet 22:00 < BleuLlama> (i've improved it since the release 22:00 < BleuLlama> brb 22:01 -!- afx [n=safx@83.212.57.43] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 < afx> hi, i ran the windows ipodlinux installer and i'm at the step that it should download the package list but it just says done and the next button is disabled. 22:03 < afx> what should i do? 22:04 < afx> anyone? i'm running windows 2000. does it matter that it's not xp? 22:05 < DerPapst_> get the netless one 22:05 -!- Bi-noix [n=Bi-noix@252.33.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["brb"] 22:06 < afx> ok 22:12 -!- lex [i=lex@evot.us] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:12 -!- lex [i=lex@evot.us] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 -!- lex [i=lex@evot.us] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:16 -!- Bi-noix [n=Bi-noix@252.33.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 -!- lex_ [i=lex@evot.us] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FC5F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:18 < afx> if i choose all packages to install, how much space do i need? 22:20 < erus`> VT works now? 22:20 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: looks like anta2.xm doesn't always use 32 voices, so it might be okay 22:20 < erus`> so external apps launching from pz2? 22:20 < BleuLlama> erus`: as of about a week or two ago, yes 22:20 < erus`> omg :D 22:20 < BleuLlama> and llauncher is a nice frontend to do so 22:21 < BleuLlama> (it['s on the modules page) 22:21 < erus`> does terminal module work now? 22:21 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: i can't load happy2.it anywhere. mikmod (desktop app) doesn't load it. MilkyTracker doesn't like it, and Player Pro crashes when you try to play it. it might be corrupt? 22:22 < BleuLlama> and the other two work fine in my new desktop build of MikModule/pz2 22:22 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: try out the latest MikModule (1.2) to see if that fixes things for you 22:22 < BleuLlama> if not, then 1.3 might fix them. i'll try these on my nano 22:25 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: ok 22:25 < DerPapst_> thanks for the info ;) 22:26 < BleuLlama> trying it now 22:27 < DerPapst_> it might be a problem with libmikmod. i'm using thier cvs code 22:27 < BleuLlama> not that it's changed since 2004 22:27 < BleuLlama> afaik 22:27 < DerPapst_> i hought that might fix my problem 22:27 < DerPapst_> there are some minor changes 22:27 < DerPapst_> a few for OSX afaik 22:27 < BleuLlama> anotherday.it is playing on my nano right now 22:28 < DerPapst_> mkay...maybe it's because libmikmod doesn't like my pc ;) 22:31 < DerPapst_> i had to copy libmikmod.a built for my linux desktop pc to mikmodule and modify the makefile the same way you have done it for the ipod (renamed it to linmikmod_pc.a) 22:31 < DerPapst_> i guess that text was confusing ^^ 22:35 < DerPapst_> brb booting linux 22:35 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2D31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:35 < afx> after backing up my firmware, it pops up an error that windows must close the application and that an error log has been created 22:35 < afx> why is that? 22:37 < afx> and how do i fix it? 22:37 -!- RandomDude16 [n=randomdu@206.206.27.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 < RandomDude16> I need help 22:37 < RandomDude16> installing ipod linux 22:37 < RandomDude16> on a new 5g 30GB ipod video 22:38 < BleuLlama> RandomDude16: you'll need to do it by hand. search the forums and wiki for installing on 5.5g 22:38 < RandomDude16> any guides recommended? 22:38 < BleuLlama> i think there's only 1 right now 22:39 < RandomDude16> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19046 22:40 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2D31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 < BleuLlama> there you go 22:40 * DerPapst downloads mikmodule 1.2 now 22:41 < RandomDude16> i cant see either topic 22:41 < RandomDude16> on the rockbottom forum 22:41 < BleuLlama> then aks the people who posted it. not me 22:42 < RandomDude16> ok im going by the bottom post 22:42 < RandomDude16> and yes i run ubuntu edgy 22:44 < DerPapst> and you've modified the makefile? and also the path in the makefile are right? if not correct them or ask mp about that. 22:45 < bushblows> ok i have been trying for the past 2 days to get ipl to boot on my ipod 22:45 < bushblows> the ipod ia 5th gen video with new apple updater, i have loader 2.4 running properly with rockbox and apple OS running fine 22:46 < bushblows> but can not get ipl to boot for anything, I poot ipl in the root directory of the ipod and created a loader.cfg and directed it to the ipl kernel and still nothing, any thoughts? 22:46 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:47 < BleuLlama> 5.5gen or 5.0? 22:47 < bushblows> 5gen ipod 22:47 < bushblows> with new firmware 22:48 < BleuLlama> dunno 22:48 < BleuLlama> ask on the forums perhaps? 22:48 < bushblows> shit, i am out of ideas, tried everything i know 22:48 < DerPapst> do you have extracted the kernel ;) 22:49 < bushblows> the debug info in loader2.4 says load succesfull starting now then it freezes 22:49 < BleuLlama> sounds like your kernel is corrupt 22:49 -!- Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv] has joined #ipodlinux 22:49 < BleuLlama> or compressed 22:49 < bushblows> well i got the kernel from http://ipodlinux.org/builds 22:50 < bushblows> am i missing needed files 22:50 < bushblows> might be compressed 22:50 < RandomDude16> YESSSSSSSSSS 22:50 < RandomDude16> it looks like its installing now 22:50 < RandomDude16> from the bottom post 22:50 < RandomDude16> in that thread 22:50 < DerPapst> bushblows: do you have unpacked it? 22:51 < afx> damn 22:51 < afx> why does it display that it has encountered an error? 22:51 < bushblows> i put it on the ipod in .bin format 22:51 < RandomDude16> yes 22:51 < RandomDude16> I have ipod linux now 22:51 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: spotted a minor bug. 22:51 < BleuLlama> DerPapst: cool 22:52 < DerPapst> i'm in the voices VT screen and if i press lllllll it doesn't show the volumeslider 22:52 < DerPapst> also it doesn't change the volume 22:53 < BleuLlama> press action to get it into volume mode 22:53 < DerPapst> but i press r it works and then i can change the the volume with l too 22:53 < BleuLlama> i think i'm gonna change that back 22:53 < BleuLlama> oh 22:53 < BleuLlama> ok. i'll fix that 22:53 < BleuLlama> i understand 22:53 < DerPapst> ok 22:53 < RandomDude16> how do I install stuff on it? 22:53 < RandomDude16> and put songs on it? 22:54 < DerPapst> dunno whats "leiser machen" is in english ;) 22:54 < BleuLlama> RandomDude16: you copy files to it. 22:54 < RandomDude16> like a usb memory stick? 22:54 < BleuLlama> DerPapst: fixed in 1.3. hehe. oops 22:54 < DerPapst> ok :) 22:54 < RandomDude16> basically just copy files the same way you do on a usb memory stick 22:55 * BleuLlama afk - driving home, getting dinner 22:56 < afx> how can i uninstall ipodlinux? 22:56 < DerPapst> restore with itunes or your your backup 22:56 < DerPapst> the first your is a use 22:58 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: the "bug" is in all 22:58 < DerPapst> views ^^ 22:59 < DerPapst> (that return was supposed to go to my desktop build ;) ) 23:01 < RandomDude16> where on the ipod do i copy the files to? 23:02 < RandomDude16> can't write to log on /dev/tty5 23:02 < RandomDude16> should I ignore that? 23:03 < RandomDude16> oh yeah 23:03 < RandomDude16> can't write to log on /dev/tty5 read-only file system 23:03 < RandomDude16> how do I fix that? 23:04 < RandomDude16> what should I do? 23:05 < DerPapst> you don't have to fix it 23:05 < DerPapst> just ignore it 23:07 < RandomDude16> does it mean anything? 23:07 < RandomDude16> its stuck on there 23:07 < RandomDude16> I think 23:07 < DerPapst> it should stuck on there. then something else is going wrong i guess 23:08 < RandomDude16> and its not mounting either 23:08 < RandomDude16> how do I turn off the ipod? 23:08 < RandomDude16> externally 23:08 < DerPapst> what generation? 23:08 < RandomDude16> 5 23:09 < RandomDude16> brand new ipod video 23:09 < DerPapst> menu + center 23:09 < RandomDude16> holding down 23:09 < RandomDude16> and nothing 23:10 < DerPapst> hold them together for a few seconds (maybe a minute) 23:10 < RandomDude16> like on a computer 23:10 < RandomDude16> you just unplug it 23:10 < RandomDude16> and its gone 23:10 < RandomDude16> nothing yet 23:12 < RandomDude16> nothing 23:12 < DerPapst> are you still holding both together? 23:12 < RandomDude16> yes 23:12 < DerPapst> with one hand? 23:12 < RandomDude16> yes 23:13 < RandomDude16> my other thumb 23:13 < RandomDude16> still am 23:14 < RandomDude16> ugh 23:14 < RandomDude16> let go? 23:14 < DerPapst> menu + center always worked for me. but i heard some have problems with it. they had to wait until the battery was empty. 23:14 < RandomDude16> yeah i might 23:17 < Gimp_> menu + center is restart 23:17 < Gimp_> if it doesn't work 23:17 < Gimp_> trigger hold on then off 23:21 -!- mikeconcepts2 [n=mike@100.142.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:21 < mikeconcepts2> this is really me at mike's house 23:21 < mikeconcepts2> (randomdude16) 23:22 < mikeconcepts2> i got the ipod to unfreeze 23:22 < DerPapst> congratulations :) 23:22 < mikeconcepts2> now we need to figure out how to put programs on it 23:23 < DerPapst> by "we" you mean "you"? 23:23 < mikeconcepts2> do we copy the files to a specific place, yes, mike and I 23:24 < DerPapst> what files? 23:24 < mikeconcepts2> programs 23:24 < mikeconcepts2> any program 23:24 < afx> when i try to rerun the installer 23:24 < afx> it says that it found ipodlinux installe 23:24 < afx> d 23:24 < afx> but when i press the rewind button 23:24 < afx> nothing happens 23:24 < DerPapst> any program... do you talk about modules or stand alone app or what? 23:25 < mikeconcepts2> modules 23:25 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 23:25 < afx> and i'm trying to rejigger the loader and it gives me unable to rejigger the loader (error 11) 23:26 < mikeconcepts2> magic 8 ball, pacman, and iNES 23:26 < daniel_washere> hello. 23:26 < mikeconcepts2> and the program to play compressed videos 23:26 < DerPapst> copy the folder with the .o, module file and so on to /usr/lib 23:27 < DerPapst> afx: which OS? 23:27 < afx> DerPapst: windows 2000 and ipod 6gb mini 2nd gen 23:28 -!- danalien_ [n=danalien@c83-254-149-173.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 23:28 < DerPapst> do you have made a backup? 23:29 < RandomDude16> ok im back at my house now on my computer 23:29 < RandomDude16> its not mounting 23:29 < RandomDude16> do I have to reboot it for it to mount? 23:29 < afx> DerPapst: yes, but it displayed an error and then i selected not to make a backup and it proceeded normally 23:30 < RandomDude16> its not mounting at all 23:30 < afx> i have 40mb free space only, is it enough? 23:31 < RandomDude16> how do I get it to mount again? 23:31 < daniel_washere> For what to mount? 23:31 < RandomDude16> the ipod 23:31 < DerPapst> afx: on your ipod? 23:32 < daniel_washere> On which OS :s 23:32 < afx> DerPapst: no the error was on the installer 23:32 < RandomDude16> Kubuntu Edgy 23:32 < daniel_washere> oh 23:32 < daniel_washere> plug it in and it should automatically be mounted.. 23:32 < RandomDude16> I did 23:32 < daniel_washere> if it doesnt 23:32 < RandomDude16> should I try the back ports? 23:32 < daniel_washere> go to terminal 23:32 < daniel_washere> type mount 23:32 < daniel_washere> and check down the list for the appropriate device :) 23:33 -!- ionvas [n=t@217.189.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [] 23:33 < DerPapst> RandomDude16 Center + Menu and in the second something happens press Center + Play/Pause (you have to be really fast. and connect it to your pc before doing that) 23:34 < daniel_washere> Oh.... So he left his ipod in linux or stuck at apple screen? 23:34 < afx> is windows 2000 supported?? 23:34 < DerPapst> dunno i thought he wasn't in diskmode 23:35 < DerPapst> afx: you have to get ipodpatcher. 23:35 -!- mikeconcepts2 [n=mike@100.142.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:36 < RandomDude16> oh 23:36 < RandomDude16> so i have to go in diskmode 23:36 < RandomDude16> basically 23:36 < daniel_washere> Yep. 23:36 < daniel_washere> I just did it on the kubuntu desktop with my ipod.. 23:36 < daniel_washere> 2 dialogs will appear asking to show in a new window. 23:37 < RandomDude16> Sleep turns off the ipod? 23:37 < afx> DerPapst: i cannot find it, where is it? 23:37 -!- Z_Man [n=Zachary@cpe-24-209-94-13.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 23:37 < RandomDude16> ok i got it up now 23:38 < RandomDude16> finally 23:38 < RandomDude16> now what do I do with the modules? 23:38 < DerPapst> i think goole will find it... 23:38 < daniel_washere> copy em to usr/lib/ 23:38 < daniel_washere> (well the folders) 23:39 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:40 < afx> DerPapst: i used google, it only finds it in the 5g ipod wiki page 23:40 < afx> and i don't have a 5g 23:40 < daniel_washere> checking if sizeof(void *) == sizeof(int)... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling 23:40 < daniel_washere> Got that while trying to cross-compile snes9x.. 23:41 < afx> will the linux installer work on FAT formatted ipods?? 23:43 < DerPapst> afx ipodpatcher works for your ipod too. 23:43 < DerPapst> i'll get a link for you 23:43 < afx> thanks 23:44 < DerPapst> http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe 23:44 * DerPapst is fast as lightning 23:44 < DerPapst> ^^ 23:44 < daniel_washere> =O 23:45 < afx> lol ok, smth strange happened 23:45 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 23:46 < DerPapst> what happend? 23:47 < afx> i used migue's installer for the ipod mini which i found off a link in the forum 23:48 < afx> and i installed ipodlinux not from the official installer but from his app, it said successful and rebooted and now i have ipodlinux! 23:48 < DerPapst> ok 23:48 < afx> but what apps do i have now? 23:49 < DerPapst> i don't know this installer 23:49 < afx> what should i do with ipodpatcher? 23:50 < afx> is it normal for podzilla to pause a song when navigating around? 23:50 < RandomDude16> ok modules added now how do I use them? 23:50 < DerPapst> nothing anymore. i wanted to help you to install the loader 23:50 < RandomDude16> once I boot it up? 23:50 < DerPapst> so that you can boot into ipoldinux 23:50 < RandomDude16> nvm 23:51 < RandomDude16> ok 23:51 < RandomDude16> now how do I get to music 23:51 < RandomDude16> videos 23:51 < RandomDude16> and photos 23:52 < DerPapst> with apple firmware 23:52 < RandomDude16> arent there modules 23:52 < RandomDude16> for it? 23:52 < afx> DerPapst: obviously that installer is outdated, i want to do it with the official one. how should i proceed? 23:52 < daniel_washere> Erm. Music= mpd, Videos = mvpd 23:53 < daniel_washere> But l'd suggest using music in normal apple 23:53 < daniel_washere> and if your ipod doesnt support videos 23:53 < DerPapst> dunno if there is a image viewer somewhere 23:53 < RandomDude16> its a video ipod 23:53 < daniel_washere> oh 23:53 < daniel_washere> well use default :) 23:53 < daniel_washere> or mvpd. 23:53 < daniel_washere> @DerPapst: Wasnt there one in legacy? 23:54 < DerPapst> yes. but legacy is a pain on the video 23:54 < daniel_washere> Oh.. 23:54 < daniel_washere> Firmware for that too =D 23:54 < RandomDude16> how do I get out of dunt hunt? 23:54 < DerPapst> maybe hod 23:54 < daniel_washere> Hold/UnHold wasnt it? 23:54 < RandomDude16> nvm 23:55 < DerPapst> afx: either do a complete restore or get a linux live cd 23:55 < DerPapst> and updtar your ipod 23:56 < DerPapst> *update 23:56 < DerPapst> (i really should get some sleep) 23:57 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: ping (if you're back ;) ) --- Log closed Fri Jan 12 00:00:00 2007