--- Log opened Wed Jan 03 00:00:04 2007
00:01 < DerPapst_> badtag`NitroX: use this version of ipodpatcher instead of the other one i've posted earlierhttp://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/ipodpatcher.exe
00:03 < DerPapst_> badtag`NitroX: done?
00:04 < DerPapst_> badtag`NitroX: it's 1 am over here and i'm going to bed soon. so you'd better be faster.
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00:07 < badtag`NitroX> hey
00:07 < badtag`NitroX> i g2g
00:07 < DerPapst_> heh
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00:28 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: stop with the colors.  some browsers don't render them right
00:29 < DerPapst_> uh.. i use colors? i wasn't aware of it. sorry.
00:30 < BleuLlama> not anymore. heh
00:30 < BleuLlama> when you were talking to badtag`NitroX, you were doing it
00:30 < BleuLlama> weird
00:30 < BleuLlama> anyway
00:30 < BleuLlama> pong
00:31 < DerPapst_> ah.. ok. if i copy colored text in trillian and paste it, it seens to keep it colors.
00:31 < BleuLlama> aha
00:31 < DerPapst_> *its
00:32 < DerPapst_> fxb already has done what i wanted. 
00:32 < BleuLlama> ok
00:33 < DerPapst_> but thanks anyway ;)
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00:42 < BleuLlama> glad to be of service
00:43 < DerPapst_> heh :)
00:43  * BleuLlama works on his programming contest submission
00:44 < DerPapst_> dang.. i wanted to do that too this evening
00:44 < BleuLlama> then do it
00:44 < DerPapst_> mail is already prepared ;)
00:44 < BleuLlama> :)
00:44 < BleuLlama> awesome
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00:45 < DerPapst_> and i'm going to submit the most useless module ever ;)
00:45 < DerPapst_> how any subissions do you already have?
00:45 < BleuLlama> we've already got a useless one.
00:45 < DerPapst_> *many
00:45 < BleuLlama> two i think?
00:45 < DerPapst_> not as useless as mine i bet ;)
00:45 < BleuLlama> one was 1d tetris
00:46 < BleuLlama> was that yours?
00:46 < DerPapst_> 1dtetris
00:46  * DerPapst_ is done with 3D modelling for at least 6 hours ;)
00:46 < DerPapst_> i hate it
00:48 < DerPapst_> i'm very curious about what the core devs are subitting ;)
00:49 < BleuLlama> mine is pretty cool, and useful, but it depends on courtc's which is pretty major
00:49 < DerPapst_> it's too late for me already. i can't type anymore (it's not like that i was ever able to type)
00:50 < fxb> My work time will start in like 2 hours ;)
00:50 < DerPapst_> i know about 2 of coutrc's submissions.
00:50 < DerPapst_> fxb: that early? what do you do?
00:51 < BleuLlama> two of courtc's?
00:51 < BleuLlama> i started on one a few weeks back, but i got bored with it and dumped it
00:51 < fxb> DerPapst: Not work, i mean programming :D
00:53 < davidc__> eh, I have to start my submission
00:53 < davidc__> usb work shouldn't take more than 5 minutes though
00:53 < davidc__> [hah!]
00:53 < BleuLlama> davidc__: do it!
00:53 < BleuLlama> DO IT!
00:53 < BleuLlama> DOOOOO EEEEEETTT!
00:53 < rager> DO IT!!!111!!!!!1!one!!!
00:53 < DerPapst_> courtc got Open VT working on pz2. and he's doing that game called Puyo afaik
00:54 < DerPapst_> fxb: ahh.. ok ;)
00:54 < BleuLlama> heh. i contributed to his puyo game ;)
00:54 < DerPapst_> meh.. i have to go to university tomorrow again...
00:55 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: it looks really nice
00:55 < BleuLlama> i made the little ipod nanos. ;)
00:55  * fxb made the triangles
00:56  * DerPapst_ didn't know there were triangls and nanos 
00:57 < BleuLlama> there might not have been in the earlier versiosn
00:57 < BleuLlama> i only made the nanos like friday or saturday
00:57  * fxb also made circles :O
00:58 < BleuLlama> i took some time today and made some icons for my contribution
00:58 < BleuLlama> i'm about to do animationey stuff now
00:58  * BleuLlama got the parser and the engine running.. time for the glitzy stuff
00:58 < DerPapst_> sonds cool :)
00:59  * DerPapst_ gives up to type correctly.
00:59 < fxb> I started 3 contributions... hehe
01:00 < fxb> I don't think i'll finish them in time :-/
01:00 < BleuLlama> eh.  try
01:00 < DerPapst_> i wanted to make something more fun but i don't have time :-( got a lot of work to do from university.
01:00 < BleuLlama> don't give up just because time is short
01:01 < BleuLlama> i might be a little lenient wth the time... if you submit a day late, we'll take that into account, but it's still good
01:04 < DerPapst_> it takes over 5minutes to render a picture with poor light. thats insane... or my pc is just crappy ;)
01:05 < fxb> get a mac pro :)
01:05 < BleuLlama> Bah.
01:05 < BleuLlama> get an Amiga 1000
01:05 < DerPapst_> lol
01:05  * BleuLlama misses his Amiga 1000
01:05 < BleuLlama> (which is why we have all of the amiga schemes and appearances. hehehe..)
01:06 < DerPapst_> i would get a better machine... but i'll have to spent 2000Eur + to repair my car.
01:06 < DerPapst_> :'(
01:06 < BleuLlama> i love seeing screenshots from people going "look how cool my ipod is modded" and I'm thinking to myself: "okay... i made that color scheme, the appearance, and the widgets in the titlebar". hehe
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01:07 < DerPapst_> hehe.. true.
01:07 < furkle> yeah well i think i just castrated a rabbit on my wii
01:08 < DerPapst_> o.O nice?
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01:18 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: any wishes for the Subject of the mail to submissions@ipodlinux.org?
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01:22 < BleuLlama> [Contest Submission] submission name here
01:22 < DerPapst_> thanks
01:23 < DerPapst_> sent.
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01:28 < DerPapst_> happy coding to all other contest contributors.
01:28  * DerPapst_ goes to bed now.
01:30 < furkle> so what do you guys write these mods in?
01:30 < furkle> like what language
01:30 < DerPapst_> C
01:33 < DerPapst_> jeffb: oing
01:33 < DerPapst_> *ping ^^
01:44 < DerPapst_> jeffb: the make_fw code you sent me doesn't "work" either. it creates a defunct image. it isn't possible to load appleOS with loader 2 on my 5.5G but if i use linuxstb's ipodpatcher  version 0.6cvs (in rockbox' cvs /tools/ipodpathcer) loader2 can load appleOS.
01:44 < DerPapst_> and now i really going to sleep now. good night @ all :)
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01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> oh yeah, I completely forgot about that contest.
01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> why no /topic publicity?
01:50 < BleuLlama> it used to be in the topic a while ago
01:50 < daniel_washere> So when is the final submission date\time? (ie EST 12:00am Friday 5th Jan)
01:51 -!- BleuLlama changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: http://ipodlinux.org
01:51 < BleuLlama> oops
01:51 < daniel_washere> =p
01:51 < daniel_washere> BHSPitMonkey: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19264
01:52 < BHSPitMonkey> haha
01:52 -!- BleuLlama changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: http://ipodlinux.org || The contest ends on the 5th! http://ipodlinux.org/ContributionContest || 4G iPods and above are officially UNSUPPORTED, please be clueful when asking. || Messed up iPod? /msg iplbot broken || Please ask before PMing || When asking for help, please state OS and iPod generation. || Development discussion: #ipodlinux-dev
01:52 < daniel_washere> opps...
01:52 < BleuLlama> phew!
01:52 < daniel_washere> BHSPitMonkey: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19247
01:53 < daniel_washere> Cant wait :P
01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> daniel_washere, why all the links at me?
01:55 < daniel_washere> (12:49:37 PM) BHSPitMonkey: why no /topic publicity?
01:56 < daniel_washere> and only the bottom was right ><
01:56 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm aware of the contest, thanks :P
01:57  * daniel_washere sighs
01:59 < BHSPitMonkey> :)
02:00 < furkle> someone should make an ipod wack-a-mole
02:00 < furkle> whack*
02:01 < BleuLlama> i saw a wack-a-mole game for the DS. 
02:01 < BleuLlama> i almost got it, just for the sheer stupid factor
02:01 < BleuLlama> hehe
02:01 < furkle> i just mentioned it as im playing raving rabbids on my wii and just finished beating them senseless with a shovel
02:02 < BleuLlama> :D
02:02 < BleuLlama> real gamers have PS3s;  Wiis are for losers
02:02 < BHSPitMonkey> lolz
02:02 < BleuLlama> that said, we're probably going to be getting a Wii in the next couple of months
02:02 < furkle> pffft
02:02 < BleuLlama> :D
02:02 < furkle> ps3s are pieces of shit
02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> indeed
02:03  * BleuLlama has no desire for a PS3
02:03 < furkle> the fact that theyre in stock everywhere says alot
02:03  * BleuLlama doesn't like Sony
02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> I saw a cute wii vs ps3 video from G4 today on google video
02:03 < BleuLlama> (anymore)
02:03 < BleuLlama> their Trinitrons were awesome CRTs
02:03 < furkle> BHSPitMonkey the one with the fat chick and the scantily clad one?
02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2964751562925463883
02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> furkle, yeah
02:04 < furkle> yeah thats pretty good
02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> my favorite part is the blu-ray rant
02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> "HAVE YOU EVEN HEARD OF THE BLU-RAY???"
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02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> *zooms in on the wii chick's rear end as the fat chick rants about the blu-ray*
02:05 < daniel_washere> lol
02:06 < daniel_washere> Is there any decent games on ps3 anyway?
02:06 < BleuLlama> okay. i know i kinda started this thread, but let's get back to topic. ;)
02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> it's really impressive how many iPL people I've been seeing in the wii hacking / wiili community
02:06 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: because no one can afford a PS3 ;)
02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> I could
02:06 < furkle> final statement daniel_washere: just gran turismo (OK IM DONE)
02:06 < BleuLlama> :)
02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> I wouldn't buy it if it was half the price of the wii. (well, okay, I would, but I'd only run linux on it)
02:07 < BleuLlama> i'd use it for number crunching.
02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> crunch those numbers, damn you!
02:07  * BleuLlama wants to port ossim to that shiny Cell processor, if it hasn't been done yet
02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> "I want to know how pi ends by TONIGHT!"
02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> "And I expect 2 new prime numbers on my desk by friday!"
02:08 < BleuLlama> bah. we can factor large primes with that cpu.
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02:20 < furkle> so do any of you know of any good tutorials for c for someone who has no experience with it what so ever?
02:22 < furkle> the extent of my programming experience is some java in high school
02:22 < BleuLlama> i can suggest a book...
02:22 < BleuLlama> you might find a bootlegged ebook of it..
02:22 < furkle> :P
02:22 < BleuLlama> "The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie
02:22 < BleuLlama> it teaches (really well) the fundametals
02:23 < BleuLlama> it's also a good reference book
02:23 < furkle> so if one was to stumble upon some book in a back alleyway where would one look
02:23 < furkle> said book*
02:23 < BleuLlama> i dunno. i buy books. i've heard of people having electronic versions
02:23 < furkle> or i should say what back alleyway should one go down
02:23 < BleuLlama> sorry.
02:23 < BleuLlama> it's well worth the money for it though
02:23 < furkle> actually honestly how much does it normally go for because ebooks for stuff like that ive found are a pain in the ass
02:23 < furkle> easier to have hard copy on hand
02:23 < BleuLlama> i lent mine to a friend about 5 years ago, and haven't seen it since. :(
02:24 < BleuLlama> $35 i think
02:24 < furkle> oh thats not bad
02:24 < BleuLlama> it's thin, but don't be mislead by it, since it's thorough and concise
02:24 < furkle> ill have to check chapters sometime this week
02:25 < daniel_washere> or if your cheap like me :P use:
02:25 < daniel_washere> http://members.shaw.ca/ipatters/BeginC.html
02:25 < daniel_washere> (although lve seen way better online c tutorials)
02:25 < BleuLlama> there you go.  i'm not familair with online tutes
02:25 < daniel_washere> i've*
02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, so it's findable at bookstores
02:26 < furkle> did you guys all teach yourself c or did you have some instruction from an institution for the most part
02:26 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: it is
02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> Barnes and Noble and such
02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> cool
02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> I might have a look at it in there sometime
02:26 < BleuLlama> I know that Barnes and Noble by us has it.  Borders too
02:27 < BHSPitMonkey> from both my limited experience and the word of many experienced others, institutionalized programming instruction is a joke
02:27 < BHSPitMonkey> not the concept, but the common implementation out there
02:27 < BleuLlama> wha?
02:28 < BleuLlama> i disagree.  classes will do well with going over the basics of algorithms
02:28 < BleuLlama> get you exposed in short time to lots of possibilities and potential tools in your toolbox
02:29 < daniel_washere> hmmm
02:29 < daniel_washere> >< they teach visual basic at our school :|
02:29 < daniel_washere> (or real basic.. one of them)
02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, I guess that's completely dependent on the institution and class.
02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> and the execution thereof
02:30 < BleuLlama> go to a decent college, and you'll get decent classes.
02:30 < BHSPitMonkey> but it's surely safe to say that programming classes offered in High Schools are a joke :)
02:30 < BleuLlama> well, probablym yeah
02:31 < daniel_washere> =P
02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> that was a good lesson, there
02:31 < BleuLlama> since High Schools have to cater to a much wider range of students
02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> I learned how to play Halo
02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah
02:31 < daniel_washere> really?
02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> the class I took was called Business Computer Programming
02:31 < daniel_washere> and you learnt how to play halo?
02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> we did QBASIC the first semester, C++ the other 
02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> (all using MS tools, Visual etc)
02:32 < daniel_washere> A bit of an odd combination...
02:32 < BleuLlama> i don't want to say what we did in high school... i'd be dating myself. heh
02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> and the teaching maneuver? He would xerox a page from the one C++ textbook, and then pass them out
02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> and we'd have to type the sample program onto our screen, and run it.
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> (it was a typing practice class.)
02:33 < daniel_washere> =O
02:33 < furkle> when i did java in high school about the only thing i used the teacher for was when i completely stumped myself
02:33 < BleuLlama> i was doing my own thing in programming classes in high school.
02:33 < furkle> and even then most of the time i figured out the problem on my own
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> 95% of the time spent was free time, playing games or e-mail etc
02:33 < BleuLlama> i'd finish my project in the first 10 minutes of class, and do my own thing for the rest of the week.
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> we were supposed to do java
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> but the teacher decided nah
02:33 < BleuLlama> email would have been nice, but... this was a while ago
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> mostly because the school didn't buy any IDEs for java
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> I showed him Eclipse
02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> he didn't really care
02:34 < BleuLlama> our computer lab was a room filled with VT320s, and a MicroVax running VMS
02:34 < BleuLlama> we ran VMS Basic
02:34 < BHSPitMonkey> I spent my two periods in that classroom each day setting up ssh, vnc, and whatever else I could manage
02:34 < BHSPitMonkey> streaming media from my desktop pc, etc
02:34 < BleuLlama> there was one PET in the back, it was old even then, but it was fun to play with. :)
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02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> finding the various software that our IT dept left on an open windows file server, linked in all our My Network Places'
02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> and saving what I felt like :P
02:35 < furkle> BleuLlama all the books i see are either by kernighan or ritchie but not both
02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> go tax dollars.
02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> furkle, search using quotation marks :P
02:36 < BleuLlama> the closest thing we had to a network was the one decwriter in the library that had a modem you could use to dial into Dow Jones.
02:36 < furkle> BHSPitMonkey i did ><
02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> our school district has a supernetwork, probably valuing in the hundreds of thousands
02:36 < BleuLlama> search for "The C Programming Language".  first hit: http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-2nd/dp/0131103628/sr=8-1/qid=1167791771/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5451174-4885513?ie=UTF8&s=books
02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> and its run by complete idiots.
02:37 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: i have no idea what my old highschool has now
02:37 < BleuLlama> other than a new 3-story wing connecting the science wing to the art wing
02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> at lunch, we have "accounts" into which we can deposit cash, and then use it to buy food
02:37 < furkle> oop wait
02:37 < furkle> i found it on amazon
02:37 < furkle> oh lmao
02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> and our accounts house our SSN, Address, Phone, etc
02:37 < furkle> yeah i was looking on indigo
02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> the accounts database is an Access database on an open server folder with no password
02:38 < BHSPitMonkey> (The dollar amount of the account is just a numeric field in that database, too.)
02:38 < daniel_washere> Could is withdraw cash too? :P
02:38 < BHSPitMonkey> nope
02:38 < daniel_washere> damn =(
02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> but I could, say, have 1,000,000 dollars worth of Little Debbie snacks and ice cream :P
02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> it might raise an eyebrow, though.
02:39 < daniel_washere> Yay!
02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> I did change my friend's name in the system once, though
02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> it was funny
02:39 < daniel_washere> =p
02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> Sean "Midget" Jones
02:40 < BleuLlama> i did manage to get our high school to buy an Amiga 1000 when they came out, then two Amiga 2000s... one of which was in the art teacher's office, where i had exclusive use of it. :D
02:40 < BHSPitMonkey> the lunch lady did a double-take, I heard.
02:40 < BleuLlama> i really miss my amiga and amigados
02:40 < daniel_washere> LOL
02:40 < BHSPitMonkey> lol, amigados
02:41 < daniel_washere> Crazy IPL community :p
02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> why would a company name a computer something to the effect of "Feminine Friend"
02:41  * rager wonders where teh BleuLlama that kicked people for the slightest off topic comments is
02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> ;)
02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> rager, he's out having fun!
02:41 < BleuLlama> 1mb of ram, 4 color 320x400 display, 7.16mhz, and it was snappier than my 1.6ghz mac is now
02:41 < daniel_washere> =P
02:42 < BleuLlama> rager: make some contributions and you can talk off-topic too. ;)
02:42 < BHSPitMonkey> burn!
02:42 < daniel_washere> oh.... crap... *rushes back to work on contribution*
02:42 < rager> okay, okay, sorry
02:43 < BleuLlama> ;)
02:43 < rager> so, which end do the headphones plug into, again?
02:43 < BHSPitMonkey> :P
02:43 < BleuLlama> speaking of which. i'm off to add in modular animations to my contribution contest entry in that window --->
02:43 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh
02:44 < daniel_washere> really?
02:44  * BHSPitMonkey looks at his x-chat userlist
02:44 < daniel_washere> me too =D
02:44 < daniel_washere> (except its gaim)
02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> eww
02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> IRC on gaim is for lusers
02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> and n00bs
02:44  * daniel_washere struggles to say nothing on the subject of macs
02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> and n00sers
02:44 < rager> or people that like using aim and IRC with one app
02:44 < rager> like I do
02:44 < BleuLlama> hey. people.
02:44 < BleuLlama> on topic
02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> rager, like I said...
02:44 < BleuLlama> (and use irssi)
02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> I made a contribution!
02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> :P
02:45 < rager> n00sers?
02:45 < rager> is that n00b + luser?
02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> sure, why not
02:46 < rager> or is it just another term for journalist?
02:46 < BHSPitMonkey> that would work as well.
02:47 < rager> n00sers...
02:47 < rager> mind if I sue that, BHSPitMonkey?
02:48 < BHSPitMonkey> I really wouldn't be worth all the lawyer fees.
02:48 < rager> *use
02:48 < rager> sorry
02:48 < rager> being a bit lysdexic
02:49 < BHSPitMonkey> knock yourself out.
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03:01 < furkle> god damnt theres this freaking claw game and its hard enough to get these damn things out of the dirt without efrew the retarded rabbit getting in the way
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04:45 < furkle> so umm
04:45 < furkle> quiet eh
04:45 < daniel_washere> lol
04:45 < BleuLlama> shhh
04:45 < furkle> :/ digg is absolutely raping websites today
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05:22 < daniel_washere> BleuLlama: Exactly what ipods will it be tested on?
05:22 < daniel_washere> (Of course you'd need to adjust the screen size ;))
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05:23 < deameyes> can slax be put onto an ipod that has ipodlinux on it?
05:24 < daniel_washere> Erm..
05:24 < daniel_washere> Do you mean have it act like a hard-disk for your pc or literally run it on the ipod?
05:25 < deameyes> hard disk
05:25 < daniel_washere> I think people have done it before... But i wouldnt suggest doing so. You will kill the hard disc easily :P
05:25 < deameyes> fair enough
05:26 < deameyes> course only reason I need linux anymore is compiling things for my ipod's linux...
05:26 < daniel_washere> Live CD? and keep the necessary files on your pc hd?
05:26 < daniel_washere> =P
05:34 < deameyes> well I was just thinking so I could just boot it from usb and then I have my ipod and the development stuff on the same flashdrive
05:36 < deameyes> course figuring out how to make a canadian cross compiler for gclinux would be a great step
05:36 < deameyes> or gcc I mean
05:36 < Gimp_> deameyes: just use a livecd as daniel_washere said..
05:37 < Gimp_> or use something like virtual PC
05:37 < Gimp_> vmware
05:39 < daniel_washere> or
05:39 < daniel_washere> UBUNTU!
05:39 < deameyes> I got ubuntu
05:40 < deameyes> I was jsut thinkin for programming on the go; course my best bet up to now would be to learn to use lithp
05:48 < deameyes> otherwise any word on rock box making a canadian cross compiler?
05:50 < BleuLlama> daniel_washere: what ipods will what be tested on?
05:53 < daniel_washere> the submission for the contest silly.
05:53 < daniel_washere> =P
05:53 < daniel_washere> submissions*
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05:54 < daniel_washere> (ie: 1G, Video, Nano, 4G).
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05:57 < BleuLlama> well, yeah.  i'm testing for mono/color in all sizes
05:57 < daniel_washere> so all generations?
05:57 < BleuLlama> yeah.  whatever podzilla2 will run on
05:58 < daniel_washere> What about standalone? :p
05:58 < BleuLlama> i'll test it on real hardware if i can get a chance to as well.
05:58 < BleuLlama> standalone?
05:58 < daniel_washere> external applications.
05:58 < BleuLlama> what about it? 
05:58 < daniel_washere> The same too? on each ipod
05:58 < BleuLlama> what are you talking about?
05:58 < daniel_washere> dont worry xD
05:59 < daniel_washere> So its getting test on real ipods.. thats all i needed to know.
05:59 < BleuLlama> each of us will test submissions on a few ipods, whatever we have.
05:59 < daniel_washere> Oh ok. Thanks :)!
06:00 < BleuLlama> but we'll test on desktop wherever we can for color/mono and screen sizes
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06:17 < daniel_washere> Meh Off to do other stuff
06:17 < daniel_washere> thanks for the help and see ya =p
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06:32 < deameyes> does the uclinux site's source for arm elf compilers contain everything to build a toolchain?
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07:53 < DerPapst_> spam: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21414
07:53 < DerPapst_> even more spam: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21411
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09:26 < raph_ael> hello
09:29 < BHSPitMonkey> yo
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12:05 < DerPapst> spam: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=176366#176366
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12:25 < sIbOk> hello, i have a question about ipod fifth gen, i'm interested about buyin gone, but i've seen ipods marked as 5.5 gen, how could i know if the ipod i'm buying is a 5.5 gen? is there any visual difference i can appreciate (maybe a bigger screen?)? thanks :)
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13:12 < travis134> hello
13:12 < BleuLlama> sIbOk: they will be advertised as having a brigter screen
13:12 < BleuLlama> also, if it's 80gb, it's a 5.5
13:12 < travis134> how are you all doing?
13:12 < travis134> talking about macworld?
13:12 < travis134> cant wait for the itv
13:13 < travis134> even tho i have my xbox1 effectively set up as a streaming media player
13:16 < BleuLlama> that's next week, isn't it?
13:16 < lex> itv? :O
13:16 < lex> what's that
13:18 < travis134> never heard of it? well it supposedly is going to be like a media center
13:18 < travis134> or thats what ive heard
13:18 < lex> :o
13:18 < travis134> you can stream stuff from your amc to it
13:18 < lex> nice
13:18 < travis134> podcasts, movies, hd stuff, music, pictures, etc
13:18 < lex> would be cool but it costs a lot of course
13:19 < travis134> not too much
13:19 < travis134> but its a QUALITy product lol
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14:35 < DerPapst_> any forum mod feels like resizing an avatar ;) http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=18541
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16:04 < BleuLlama> http://umlautllama.com/tmp/LlauncherDemo.mov
16:04  * BleuLlama afk for a few
16:05 < DerPapst_> awesome o.O
16:06 < fxb> yeah, nice BleuLlama!
16:06 < BleuLlama> everything you see; text, images, layout, commands to be run, are all configured in a plain text file
16:06 < BleuLlama> (INI format)
16:06 < fxb> It even fades the colors... :D cool
16:06 < BleuLlama> which can be in one of many places on the disk
16:07 < BleuLlama> fxb: yep.  That's what i was working on last night
16:07 < BleuLlama> that's 3 days of work
16:07 < BleuLlama> :)
16:07 < DerPapst_> cool
16:07 < BleuLlama> i'm really good at starting projects.  I'm actually pretty surprised that I pretty much completed that one.
16:07 < BleuLlama> i think i want to clean up the icon set before i submit it.
16:07 < DerPapst_> hehe...
16:07 < BleuLlama> (png images with transparency)
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16:09 < DerPapst_> so it's already done?
16:09 < BleuLlama> i think it pretty much is.
16:09 < BleuLlama> i'm considering putting in more transitions, or perhaps some basic screenshots to show how it can be a good frontend for MAME and such...
16:09 < BleuLlama> i just want to give as much example as i can
16:10 < BleuLlama> oh. i was going to add background images too.  i might drop that... it's a lot more complex than it sounds
16:10  * DerPapst_ hopes that this will help to cut down a lot of questions from newcomers
16:10 < fxb> http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/ipodracer.mov (bmxr's work, but still very buggy)
16:10  * BleuLlama hopes too
16:11 < DerPapst_> fxb: hehehe looks like hours of fun
16:12 < fxb> He said it's very laggy on the iPod
16:15 < DerPapst_> fxb: how coding going?
16:15 < fxb> i think i can finish two submissions.
16:16 < DerPapst_> of 3? sounds good so far :)
16:20 < fxb> the 3rd would be a html reader using hotdog
16:20 < fxb> :D
16:23  * BleuLlama afk - work
16:25 < DerPapst_> fxb: sounds cool too ;) but afaik hotdog has some problems with iPods <= 3G. and a memory corruption bug.
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17:02 < maquis> I recognize that the ipod video is not "supported" by ipodlinux, but I was wondering if anybody in here has been able to get it to work so far.  
17:03 < DerPapst_> the 5G yes the 5.5G no
17:03 < DerPapst_> not supported means that you don't get support from the devs.
17:03 < maquis> DerPapst_: yeah.  
17:03 < maquis> hmm... mine's one of the 5.5Gs
17:04 < DerPapst_> then you'll have to wait until someone fixed the kernel
17:04 < maquis> DerPapst_: ok.  interesting...
17:05 < DerPapst_> btw do you have the 30Gb or the 80Gb model?
17:05 < maquis> i've got the 30Gb model... i know rockbox supports that one
17:06 < DerPapst_> true.. the kernel works only on a HSF+ formated ipod (MacPod)
17:06 < maquis> really?
17:06 < maquis> interesting
17:06 < DerPapst_> for the 5.5G ipods
17:06 < DerPapst_> so if you convert it to a MacPod you can install iPL
17:07 < maquis> do the other ipods work for ipodlinux in both HFS+ and FAT mode?
17:07 < DerPapst_> ye
17:07 < DerPapst_> +s
17:07 < maquis> that's cool.  is there any documentation up on what trouble they're having with the FAT kernel for the 5.5?
17:10 < DerPapst_> nobody knows exactly the problem why the kernel can't mount the ext2 partition (rootfs)
17:10  * DerPapst_ has to go
17:10 < DerPapst_> see you soon ;)
17:10 < maquis> DerPapst_: thanks for the info
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19:41 < JazzGroove> Hmm, so I start the installer, I then get the message saying I cannot install due to the fact that I am missing some .ini file.
19:43 < JazzGroove> And then there was silence.
19:44 < maquis> JazzGroove: i probably can't help, but what ipod do you have?
19:48 < JazzGroove> Video.
19:52 < maquis> JazzGroove: how new?
19:52 < maquis> is it one of the 5G or 5.5G ones?  and which size is it?
19:52 < JazzGroove> Last year.
19:52 < JazzGroove> 30gb
19:52 < maquis> hmmm...
19:53 < JazzGroove> I gotta go.
19:53 < maquis> good luck
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19:53 < maquis> i can't help anyways...
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19:56 < marcus_> hello :)
19:56 < marcus_> i got problems with the ipodlinux installer 
19:56 < marcus_> i got the error "
19:56 < DerPapst_> daily spam report, brought to you by der papst ;) http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21423
19:57 < DerPapst_> hi
19:57 < marcus_> error code 0 :S
19:59 < DerPapst_> when do you get it and which installer are you using?
19:59 < marcus_> ipodlinux-installer-2.2w
19:59 < marcus_> :)
20:00 < DerPapst_> and what ipod do you have?
20:00 < marcus_> ipod nano 2g :)
20:00 < marcus_> second generation 
20:00 < DerPapst_> 2g or 2GB?
20:00 < DerPapst_> ah ok
20:00 < DerPapst_> then the problem is that iPL doesn't work at all on this generation.
20:01 < DerPapst_> the firmware is ancrypted on the 2G nano and no one has figured out how to crack it to run own code on it.
20:01 < DerPapst_> *encrypted
20:02 < marcus_> oh :S
20:02 < marcus_> whats iPL ?
20:02 < DerPapst_> iPodLinux
20:02 < marcus_> oh :)
20:03 < marcus_> okie :) thanx for the help anyway :)
20:03 < DerPapst_> no problem
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20:36 < GodEater> DerPapst, you awake / paying attention ? :)
20:37 < DerPapst> jepp
20:37 < GodEater> just wanted to let you know I replied to your post about the ATA-7 nature of the 80GB's drive
20:37 < GodEater> in case you'd not seen it yet
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20:38 < DerPapst> yes i've seen it. thanks for explaining :)
20:38 < GodEater> no problem :)
20:39 < GodEater> I only thought to check after I noticed Toshiba's new 100GB drive explicitly said it was ATA-7
20:39 < GodEater> it at least clears up a few of the words I'd been wondering about in the identify info
20:39 < GodEater> although I still can't make the bloody thing work =/
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20:41 < DerPapst> thats really stupid. the µclinux kernel has some problems too. it can't at least mount the rootfs if it is a ext2/ext3 partition
20:41 < HardDisk_WP> hi
20:41 < HardDisk_WP> what do i have to do to get gtkPod being able to sync photos?
20:41 < DerPapst> i'm not shure if it can mount the rootfs on the 80GB if it is a macpod.
20:43 < DerPapst> because the kernel has general problems mounting a ext2 partition as root fs if it is a 5.5G. doesn
20:43 < DerPapst> 't matter whether 30GB or 80GB
20:44 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: sorry don't know.
20:44 < GodEater> can the kernel at least read the MBR ?
20:45 < DerPapst> the text scrools to fast for reading it... it has at least detected where the ext2 partition starts.. i'll show you a picture in a few seconds.
20:45 < DerPapst> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/55G_Kernel_panic.JPG
20:46 < DerPapst> LBAsect=64262 is the "point" where the ext3 partition starts
20:47 < GodEater> ext3 ?
20:47 < GodEater> looks like it's trying to point an hfs+ partition there
20:48 < GodEater> s/point/mount
20:48 < GodEater> although even that's a bit more progress than I've managed
20:48 < GodEater> I can't even get the darn disk to return the first sector
20:48 < DerPapst> jeah.. have noticed that too. but i'm pretty sure i've created an ext3 partition.
20:49 < DerPapst> 1st sector is the mbr?
20:49 < GodEater> yeah
20:50 < DerPapst> would it be helpful to take a look into the kernel source?
20:50 < GodEater> if you're sure you created an ext3 one then I'm guessing the kernel isn't reading the MBR either
20:50 < furkle> BleuLlama : im going to go pick up that K&R C book today but just for clarification, it starts from the very basics i assume right?
20:51 < DerPapst> GodEater: the ting is that sector 64262 is exactly the point where the ext3 partition starts...
20:51 < DerPapst> *thing
20:51 < GodEater> trouble for me is that (ironically) I have more time at work to look at it
20:51 < GodEater> but there's no way to get the kernel from CVS from my work machine
20:51 < DerPapst> heh
20:51 < DerPapst> use your ipod ;)
20:51 < GodEater> if someone could tarball it up and make it available for download it would be useful :)
20:51 < GodEater> well yeah - but that only gets me one shot in time
20:52 < GodEater> I like grabbing the rockbox tarball on a daily basis :)
20:53 < DerPapst> the kernel isn't updated here very often... i try to make a tarball.
20:54 < DerPapst> i'm looking at this file... it seems that it doesn't have any code for ata-7. http://ipodlinux.cvs.sourceforge.net/ipodlinux/linux/drivers/ide/ide.c?revision=1.2&view=markup
20:55 < GodEater> doesn't matter
20:55 < GodEater> it's backwardsly compatible
20:55 < GodEater> as far as I've been able to tell
20:55 < DerPapst> aha... it includes ata 6
20:55 < GodEater> the ipod flashbootloader doesn't set any special ATA-7 modes
20:56 < GodEater> although I originally thought it did =/
20:56 < GodEater> but I doubly checked - and it's not
20:56 < DerPapst> so it's using only ata 6 stuff?
20:56 < GodEater> as far as I can make out
20:57 < GodEater> the new ATA-7 feature set is a new "streaming" PIO mode
20:57 < GodEater> but it's not been set on the drive
20:57 < GodEater> the *only* weird thing
20:57 < GodEater> is that the drive reports multiple logical sectors per physical sector
20:57 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, which tool should I use to repartition my iPod?
20:58 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: if possible itunes if not http://www.ipodlinux.org/Apple_Updaters#Latest
20:58 < thegeek> The long physical sector feature set allows a device to be formatted so that there are multiple logical. sectors per physical sector on the media..
20:58 < thegeek> ;P
20:59 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, my iPod is still working
20:59 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, i only want a 15gb partition to store secret data on it
20:59 < DerPapst> ah repartition... fdisk in linux. but make a backup of your firmwarepartition.
20:59 < GodEater> thegeek, I know what it does - but the numbers amiconn and I worked out didn't seem to make sense
21:00 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, ok. but how do i do a backup? (noob question)
21:00 < thegeek> oh;P
21:00 < GodEater> and I'm not sure what difference it makes to ATA calls either
21:00 < thegeek> I'm looking at the t13 docs;P
21:00 < GodEater> since AFAIU they all work on logical sectors anyway
21:00 < GodEater> yeah - so was I
21:00 < GodEater> I've read them till my eyes bleed :)
21:00 < thegeek> ouch
21:01 < thegeek> I appreciate your continued effort
21:01 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: get http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher-win32/ipodpatcher.exe
21:01 < GodEater> amiconn thinks we need a functioning ide_reset call in ipod's rockbox build
21:01 < thegeek> I've got an 5.5 myself but I really dont have the knowledge/experience ;P
21:01 < thegeek> ah
21:01 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, oh. i cant use EXEs...i run debian
21:01 < GodEater> thegeek, neither did I when I started looking a couple of weeks before xmas
21:02 < thegeek> damn
21:02 < GodEater> I'd never done bare metal programming before
21:02 < GodEater> you just need to sit down and read =/
21:02 < thegeek> nice progress then;)
21:02 < thegeek> yeah I know
21:02 < thegeek> I'm just too lazy;)
21:02 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: 32bit or 64 bit?
21:02 < GodEater> thegeek, sadly, if we all took that attitude - it'd NEVER work
21:02 < BleuLlama> furkle: yes.  basics; like no knowledge of c at all
21:02 < thegeek> yes I know GodEater
21:02 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, 32bit
21:03 < thegeek> I have contributed a little though;P
21:03 < DerPapst> then get http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher-linux32x86/ipodpatcher
21:03 < thegeek> I donated my broken h120
21:03 < GodEater> heh
21:03 < GodEater> in that case I thank you
21:03 < GodEater> I love rockbox on the H1x0 :)
21:03 < thegeek> yeah so did I
21:03 < GodEater> I still would if the battery hadn't bascially died
21:03 < thegeek> stupid ata/usb-daughterboard ;P
21:05 < GodEater> DerPapst, does this DMA stuff actually work ?!?
21:06 < DerPapst> DMA stuff... errr... not qiuet shure what you mean. sorry
21:06 < GodEater> in that file you pointed me at
21:06 < GodEater> I'm guessing not though
21:06 < GodEater> it looks very generic and not ipod specific at all
21:07 < DerPapst> it is generic. it's from the standart uclinux kernel 2.4.24
21:07 < GodEater> I've never looked at it before sorry
21:08 < DerPapst> no need to excuse ;)
21:08 < GodEater> anyway - I've got a hot young g/f asking me to go to bed - so this'll have to wait till tomorrow :)
21:08 < GodEater> nighty night all :)
21:09 < DerPapst> hehe
21:09 < DerPapst> good night ;)
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21:13 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: ping
21:19 < BleuLlama> pong
21:21 < DerPapst> i just viewed that awsome vid about Llauncher again. and i've noticed something and im not sure if it is a bug or not. http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/is_it_a_bug.PNG
21:21 < DerPapst> this is right before the transition ends
21:22 < DerPapst> it displays every icon doubled.
21:23 < BleuLlama> yep. that's due to the way i handle the animations right now
21:23 < BleuLlama> when i pre-render the AVI to be played on there, the last frame gets rendered twice, then the movie player that plays it back doubles the field
21:24 < BleuLlama> not really...
21:24 < DerPapst> uhh. it renders avi files o.O
21:25 < BleuLlama> nah.
21:25 < BleuLlama> forgot a return.
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21:25 < Snake[Sleep]> I know this isnt quit on topic, but quick question: Anyone got a good program for converting avi to mp4 on windows? (Id like near full customizablity on aspect ratio, bitrate, and format, if possible) -- obviously this is for an ipod
21:26 < Snake[Sleep]> quite*
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21:26 < BleuLlama> that's on my buglist already... but thanks. :)
21:27 < DerPapst> heh.. no problem ;)
21:27 < BHSPitMonkey> Snake[Sleep], for the Apple OS?
21:27 < Snake[Sleep]> Windows mate
21:27 < DerPapst> mp4 --> appleOS
21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> well obviously
21:28 < BleuLlama> mp4 -> mpeg4 
21:28 < Snake[Sleep]> mp4 also == ipod format
21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> heh.
21:28 < BleuLlama> Snake[Sleep]: there's probably a port of ffmpeg for windows
21:28 < Snake[Sleep]> well m4v, but its mp3g 4 anyway
21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> This -> offtopic
21:28 < DerPapst> mpeg 4 --> Moving Picture Experts Group 4 :P
21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> Snake[Sleep], Videora iPod Converter
21:28 < Snake[Sleep]> BHSPitMonkey, ill check into that
21:28 < BleuLlama> end of discussion
21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> now start discussing iPL or find something else to do.
21:28 < fxb> Videora iPod Converter
21:28 < fxb> it uses ffmpeg
21:29 < BHSPitMonkey> neat, fxb 
21:29 < Snake[Sleep]> hehe, I figured you guys could help me out :-)
21:29 < fxb> and you can make your own encoding profiles
21:29 < BHSPitMonkey> okay, transmission over
21:31 < Snake[Sleep]> I tried #apple first, and they just gave me a bunch of "you should be running linux!! all problems answered!" crap
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21:36 < DerPapst> fxb: ipodlinux.org is down
21:37 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: is your 5.5G 80GB ipod a MacPod?
21:37 < BleuLlama> my 5.5g is windows
21:38 < BleuLlama> er. winpod
21:38 < DerPapst> ah ok... i would like to see if the kernel can mount a hfs+ partition on the 80GB one
21:39 < BleuLlama> my 5.5 isnt for ipl, not at least until ipl is rock stable on it
21:39 < DerPapst> hehe... that means something like never i guess ;)
21:41 < fxb> DerPapst: fixed.
21:41 < BleuLlama> i depend on that for my music at work.
21:41 < BleuLlama> i have my nano and the 4th gen and the 1st gen (which is on a shelf at home right now) for ipl dev and testing
21:42 < DerPapst> fxb: thanks. BleuLama: ok. :)
21:45 < DerPapst> fxb: still not able to open the page.
21:45 < DerPapst> mysql server is crashed again
21:46 < fxb> yeah...
21:46 < fxb> it worked for some seconds...
21:46 < BleuLlama> that's more than yesterday
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21:52 < badtag`NitroX> hey
21:52 < badtag`NitroX> i need help
21:53 < DerPapst> thats nothing new -.-
21:54 < DerPapst> AriX: can you contact me on msn?
21:54 < AriX> no sorry
21:54 < AriX> doing hw
21:54 < DerPapst> ok.
21:56 < badtag`NitroX> hey
21:56 < badtag`NitroX> can u teach me step by step 
21:56 < badtag`NitroX> on installing the latest stuff
21:56 < badtag`NitroX> on my nano
21:56 < badtag`NitroX> with themes
21:57 < BleuLlama> there are plenty of tutorials on the wiki and forums.  plus read the topic
21:57 < badtag`NitroX> i did
21:57 < badtag`NitroX> none of the installers work
21:58 < badtag`NitroX> only 1, but everyone says that is the most outdated version of ipl
21:58 < DerPapst> then get a linux live CD and install iPL manually.
21:58 < badtag`NitroX> wait
21:58 < badtag`NitroX> do u have aim
21:58 < badtag`NitroX> or msn
21:58 < badtag`NitroX> der
21:58 < BleuLlama> `spelling
21:58 < iplbot> If I see you doing any of those horrible txting abbreviations like 'u' for "you" and 'r' for "are" again, I'm going to punch you.  Hard.  Consider this to be your only warning.  [from BleuLlama]
21:58 < AriX> lol
21:59 < badtag`NitroX> lol
21:59 < AriX> u r an iplbot iplbot u r
21:59 < badtag`NitroX> shouldnt txting be texting?
21:59 < AriX> yea it shoudl...
21:59 < AriX> u r 
21:59 < AriX> darn't
21:59 < badtag`NitroX> lol
21:59 < AriX> lol
21:59 < badtag`NitroX> hey der
21:59 < badtag`NitroX> add me to msn
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21:59 < DerPapst> hehe
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21:59 < badtag`NitroX> please
21:59 < AriX> sorry...
21:59 < badtag`NitroX> can u add me to msn derpapst
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22:00 < AriX> wow you really don't like that stuff do you?
22:00 < BleuLlama> i asked you not to do it, then you did it.
22:00 < BleuLlama> what do you want me to do?
22:01 < badtag`NitroX> u
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22:01  * BleuLlama back in a few
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22:07 < furkle> lmao BleuLlama another travis eh?
22:12 < DerPapst> good night at all
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22:26 < Gimp_> BleuLlama: why did you unban him...
22:27 < badtag`NitroX> i need help
22:27 < maquis> badtag`NitroX: did you read the documentation?
22:27 < badtag`NitroX> yeah
22:28 < badtag`NitroX> none of the installers work
22:28 < badtag`NitroX> for my nano
22:28 < maquis> do they give an error?
22:28 < badtag`NitroX> yeah
22:28 < maquis> and that error is...
22:28  * maquis pulls teeth....
22:28 < badtag`NitroX> something about packages
22:28 < BHSPitMonkey> use the netless installe
22:28 < BHSPitMonkey> ...r
22:28 < badtag`NitroX> missing dependency
22:28 < badtag`NitroX> and stuff
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> i did
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> that doesnt work either
22:29 < BleuLlama> badtag`NitroX: please read the documentation and search for your answers before bugging us.  you obviously didn't try these things./
22:29 < BHSPitMonkey> you couldn't have possibly gotten dependency problems if you were really using the netless installer
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> yes i did
22:29 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, does that sound feasible
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> yeah
22:29 < maquis> badtag`NitroX: what was the exact error?
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> for the netless one
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> it says
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> unable to write
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> nothing was written 
22:29 < badtag`NitroX> then it exits
22:30 < badtag`NitroX> i have admin privelages on my computer
22:30 < badtag`NitroX> and i restored my ipod and redid everything
22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> we're not obligated to support installers and/or nanos
22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> get a linux livecd and install manually
22:31 < BleuLlama> 1. nanos are unsupported.
22:31 < BHSPitMonkey> it's well-documented that way.
22:31 < maquis> badtag`NitroX: "unable to write" what? where? 
22:31 < BleuLlama> 2. if it's a second generation nano, there's no chance of it working
22:31 < BleuLlama> maquis: i think that's the installer
22:31 < Gimp_> BleuLlama: *yet*
22:31 < BleuLlama> Gimp_: if you believe that.
22:31 < badtag`NitroX> i dont know
22:32 < Gimp_> BleuLlama: meh, you guys are miracle workers.
22:32 < badtag`NitroX> but it takes like 40 min to install
22:32 < Gimp_> someone will get it eventually
22:32 < BleuLlama> badtag`NitroX: here's what you do:
22:32 < badtag`NitroX> and after 40 min
22:32 < badtag`NitroX> it says the error
22:32 < BleuLlama> 1. run the appleos restorer (itunes or standalone)
22:32 < maquis> BleuLlama: ok...  i don't actually know anything about ipodlinux yet, but i tend to be reasonably good at pulling teeth, so i figured i'd jump in and try to help with that piece of the debugging
22:32 < Gimp_> badtag`NitroX: you've spent more than 40 minutes wasting your time bugging us in here
22:32 < BleuLlama> maquis: give it a shot.
22:33 < maquis> BleuLlama: :)  i'm planning on sticking ipodlinux on my ipod soon... currently my ipod is not quite supported, though, so unless i get some free time to actually look at code, it'll probably be a while... :)
22:33 < BHSPitMonkey> badtag`NitroX, is the casing of your nano the old plastic kind, or the newer colored metal kind
22:34 < BleuLlama> based on what i know of the problem, and how hard it is to do, unless some major breakthrough happens, i just don't see second gen nano being cracked in the next 6 months, if ever
22:34  * BleuLlama shrugs. but that's just my impressions on the situation
22:35 < maquis> BleuLlama: any thoughts on when video 5.5 30Gb will likely be working?
22:35 < AriX_> it partly dose
22:35 < AriX_> only macpods
22:35 < BHSPitMonkey> please, give us speculation!
22:35 < AriX_> i have it on my macpod
22:35 < maquis> i heard that it's kind-of working if you use HFS+, but not for FAT
22:35 < BleuLlama> 5.5 30 does work, but it's complex to get it working right now
22:35 < AriX_> http://ipodlinux.org/5.5G (I made that page)
22:35 < BleuLlama> 80 does not, yet.
22:36 < BleuLlama> er. yeah... "does work"  "kinda works" ;)
22:36 < AriX_> if you do a lot of formatting and stuff you can get the apple os too, i may put that up soon (took me a few hours to figure out and install)
22:36 < BleuLlama> AriX_: cheers on that, btw. :)
22:36 < BleuLlama> nice job. :)
22:36 < AriX_> thx
22:36 < badtag`NitroX> back
22:36 < badtag`NitroX> ok what do i do again
22:36 < BleuLlama> read your scrollback.
22:37 < badtag`NitroX> its the 1st generation
22:37 < badtag`NitroX> the glassy one
22:37 < Gimp_> maquis: the 30GB works on HFS+ formatted macpods, however you cannot load the apple firmware after installing
22:37 < badtag`NitroX> and i restored it
22:37 < AriX_> i mean thanks... sorry bleullama that was an accident
22:37 < maquis> Gimp_: ah.  good to know
22:37 < BleuLlama> no problem
22:37 < AriX_> @gimp - read my above... whatever you call it (post?)
22:37 < Gimp_> AriX_: you got it working?
22:37 < Gimp_> wicked.
22:37 < badtag`NitroX> no
22:38 < AriX_> i'll say it again...
22:38 < AriX_> if you do a lot of formatting and stuff you can get the apple os too, i may put that up soon (took me a few hours to figure out and install)
22:38 < Gimp_> AriX_: yah i read that :P
22:38 < Gimp_> im still waiting for someone to figure out the 80gb :P
22:38 < BleuLlama> badtag`NitroX: i have no step 2.  just do step 1
22:38  * Gimp_ has one sitting beside him
22:38 < badtag`NitroX> whats step 1
22:38 < badtag`NitroX> restore?
22:38 < BleuLlama> yes
22:38 < badtag`NitroX> i did that already
22:38 < badtag`NitroX> like 12938213 times :)
22:38 < AriX_> @gimp - they've gotten the 80gb to mostly boot but now it just can't write
22:39 < AriX_> only read
22:39 < BleuLlama> that's it then.  you're done.  bye!
22:39 < Gimp_> AriX_: i know
22:39 < AriX_> i think anyway
22:39 < AriX_> oh sory
22:39 < AriX_> *sorry
22:39 < Gimp_> ive done that partly
22:39 < Gimp_> it can install the loader but can't read or write from the hard drive
22:39 < badtag`NitroX> ...
22:39 < badtag`NitroX> thats not how you install ipl
22:39 < Gimp_> i was the first to get the loader installed
22:39 < BleuLlama> i just think that's the best solution for you, badtag`NitroX 
22:39 < AriX_> @gimp - they've actually gotten it to boot linux now though
22:40 < AriX_> but not fully
22:40 < badtag`NitroX> ughh ok
22:40 < AriX_> it can read but not right
22:40 < AriX_> *write
22:40 < Gimp_> AriX_: ah.
22:40  * BleuLlama is designated asshole tonight
22:40  * BleuLlama just calling 'em like I's sees 'em
22:40 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: nice shirt, btw.
22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> ?
22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> the heck?
22:42 < BleuLlama> it's January 3: international honesty day.
22:42 < Gimp_> ahahah
22:42  * BleuLlama idles
22:43 < AriX_> lol ok... my turn
22:43  * AriX_ is not supposed to be on the computer, and his mom thinks he's doing homework
22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> what shirt? I'm confused
23:03 < rage1> honesty day?
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23:12 < furkle> im confused too
23:12 < furkle> what shirt
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23:17 < rager> I dunno
23:17 < rager> but I'd rather not wear one
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23:47 < Cameron|lappy> HELP
23:47 < Cameron|lappy> i deleted the firmware partition
23:47 < Cameron|lappy> ipod video 30gb
23:47 < Cameron|lappy> it wont reboot
23:47 < Cameron|lappy> and the hdd in it keeps clicking what do i do?
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23:49 < fxb> Cameron|lappy: Diskmode -> Restore
23:49 < Cameron|lappy> where?
23:49 < Cameron|lappy> im on linux btw
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23:50 < fxb> http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> oh thank god
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i thought i messed it up for good
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> phew
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> it isnt mine its my friends so yeah
23:51 < fxb> Do you hav access to iTunes?
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> im tryin to put linux on it
23:51 < fxb> have*
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i could hook up to my windows comp
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i just wanna get linux on it
23:51 < fxb> Yeah, that should work.
23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i dont wanna restore itunes
23:52 < Cameron|lappy> or do i need to to restore the firmware partition?
23:52 < fxb> Yes. Or recreate it manually.
23:52 < fxb> BUt i don't know how, sorry.
23:52 < Cameron|lappy> okay i will do it the apple way haha
23:53 < fxb> ok
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23:56 < Cameron|lappy> with ipodlinux will the ipod video be able to play xvid and divx and the like?
23:56 < Cameron|lappy> and ogg?
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