--- Log opened Wed Jan 03 00:00:04 2007 00:01 < DerPapst_> badtag`NitroX: use this version of ipodpatcher instead of the other one i've posted earlierhttp://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/ipodpatcher.exe 00:03 < DerPapst_> badtag`NitroX: done? 00:04 < DerPapst_> badtag`NitroX: it's 1 am over here and i'm going to bed soon. so you'd better be faster. 00:05 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:07 < badtag`NitroX> hey 00:07 < badtag`NitroX> i g2g 00:07 < DerPapst_> heh 00:11 -!- kfm82lin1k is now known as kfm82links 00:23 -!- kfm82lin3s [n=kfm82@p54BEFFE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:28 < BleuLlama> DerPapst_: stop with the colors. some browsers don't render them right 00:29 < DerPapst_> uh.. i use colors? i wasn't aware of it. sorry. 00:30 < BleuLlama> not anymore. heh 00:30 < BleuLlama> when you were talking to badtag`NitroX, you were doing it 00:30 < BleuLlama> weird 00:30 < BleuLlama> anyway 00:30 < BleuLlama> pong 00:31 < DerPapst_> ah.. ok. if i copy colored text in trillian and paste it, it seens to keep it colors. 00:31 < BleuLlama> aha 00:31 < DerPapst_> *its 00:32 < DerPapst_> fxb already has done what i wanted. 00:32 < BleuLlama> ok 00:33 < DerPapst_> but thanks anyway ;) 00:33 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:36 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:37 -!- kfm82links [n=kfm82@p54BEDAEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:37 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has joined #ipodlinux 00:39 -!- kfm82lin3s is now known as kfm82links 00:42 < BleuLlama> glad to be of service 00:43 < DerPapst_> heh :) 00:43 * BleuLlama works on his programming contest submission 00:44 < DerPapst_> dang.. i wanted to do that too this evening 00:44 < BleuLlama> then do it 00:44 < DerPapst_> mail is already prepared ;) 00:44 < BleuLlama> :) 00:44 < BleuLlama> awesome 00:44 -!- marky-b [n=marky@204-26-127-197.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:45 < DerPapst_> and i'm going to submit the most useless module ever ;) 00:45 < DerPapst_> how any subissions do you already have? 00:45 < BleuLlama> we've already got a useless one. 00:45 < DerPapst_> *many 00:45 < BleuLlama> two i think? 00:45 < DerPapst_> not as useless as mine i bet ;) 00:45 < BleuLlama> one was 1d tetris 00:46 < BleuLlama> was that yours? 00:46 < DerPapst_> 1dtetris 00:46 * DerPapst_ is done with 3D modelling for at least 6 hours ;) 00:46 < DerPapst_> i hate it 00:48 < DerPapst_> i'm very curious about what the core devs are subitting ;) 00:49 < BleuLlama> mine is pretty cool, and useful, but it depends on courtc's which is pretty major 00:49 < DerPapst_> it's too late for me already. i can't type anymore (it's not like that i was ever able to type) 00:50 < fxb> My work time will start in like 2 hours ;) 00:50 < DerPapst_> i know about 2 of coutrc's submissions. 00:50 < DerPapst_> fxb: that early? what do you do? 00:51 < BleuLlama> two of courtc's? 00:51 < BleuLlama> i started on one a few weeks back, but i got bored with it and dumped it 00:51 < fxb> DerPapst: Not work, i mean programming :D 00:53 < davidc__> eh, I have to start my submission 00:53 < davidc__> usb work shouldn't take more than 5 minutes though 00:53 < davidc__> [hah!] 00:53 < BleuLlama> davidc__: do it! 00:53 < BleuLlama> DO IT! 00:53 < BleuLlama> DOOOOO EEEEEETTT! 00:53 < rager> DO IT!!!111!!!!!1!one!!! 00:53 < DerPapst_> courtc got Open VT working on pz2. and he's doing that game called Puyo afaik 00:54 < DerPapst_> fxb: ahh.. ok ;) 00:54 < BleuLlama> heh. i contributed to his puyo game ;) 00:54 < DerPapst_> meh.. i have to go to university tomorrow again... 00:55 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: it looks really nice 00:55 < BleuLlama> i made the little ipod nanos. ;) 00:55 * fxb made the triangles 00:56 * DerPapst_ didn't know there were triangls and nanos 00:57 < BleuLlama> there might not have been in the earlier versiosn 00:57 < BleuLlama> i only made the nanos like friday or saturday 00:57 * fxb also made circles :O 00:58 < BleuLlama> i took some time today and made some icons for my contribution 00:58 < BleuLlama> i'm about to do animationey stuff now 00:58 * BleuLlama got the parser and the engine running.. time for the glitzy stuff 00:58 < DerPapst_> sonds cool :) 00:59 * DerPapst_ gives up to type correctly. 00:59 < fxb> I started 3 contributions... hehe 01:00 < fxb> I don't think i'll finish them in time :-/ 01:00 < BleuLlama> eh. try 01:00 < DerPapst_> i wanted to make something more fun but i don't have time :-( got a lot of work to do from university. 01:00 < BleuLlama> don't give up just because time is short 01:01 < BleuLlama> i might be a little lenient wth the time... if you submit a day late, we'll take that into account, but it's still good 01:04 < DerPapst_> it takes over 5minutes to render a picture with poor light. thats insane... or my pc is just crappy ;) 01:05 < fxb> get a mac pro :) 01:05 < BleuLlama> Bah. 01:05 < BleuLlama> get an Amiga 1000 01:05 < DerPapst_> lol 01:05 * BleuLlama misses his Amiga 1000 01:05 < BleuLlama> (which is why we have all of the amiga schemes and appearances. hehehe..) 01:06 < DerPapst_> i would get a better machine... but i'll have to spent 2000Eur + to repair my car. 01:06 < DerPapst_> :'( 01:06 < BleuLlama> i love seeing screenshots from people going "look how cool my ipod is modded" and I'm thinking to myself: "okay... i made that color scheme, the appearance, and the widgets in the titlebar". hehe 01:07 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-106-69.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:07 < DerPapst_> hehe.. true. 01:07 < furkle> yeah well i think i just castrated a rabbit on my wii 01:08 < DerPapst_> o.O nice? 01:10 -!- jeffb [i=newt@c-71-229-131-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:13 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-106-69.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 01:14 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 < DerPapst_> BleuLlama: any wishes for the Subject of the mail to submissions@ipodlinux.org? 01:19 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-75-20-206-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 01:20 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:22 < BleuLlama> [Contest Submission] submission name here 01:22 < DerPapst_> thanks 01:23 < DerPapst_> sent. 01:25 -!- piratepenguin [n=declan@212.2.180.12] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 < DerPapst_> happy coding to all other contest contributors. 01:28 * DerPapst_ goes to bed now. 01:30 < furkle> so what do you guys write these mods in? 01:30 < furkle> like what language 01:30 < DerPapst_> C 01:33 < DerPapst_> jeffb: oing 01:33 < DerPapst_> *ping ^^ 01:44 < DerPapst_> jeffb: the make_fw code you sent me doesn't "work" either. it creates a defunct image. it isn't possible to load appleOS with loader 2 on my 5.5G but if i use linuxstb's ipodpatcher version 0.6cvs (in rockbox' cvs /tools/ipodpathcer) loader2 can load appleOS. 01:44 < DerPapst_> and now i really going to sleep now. good night @ all :) 01:45 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2512.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> oh yeah, I completely forgot about that contest. 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> why no /topic publicity? 01:50 < BleuLlama> it used to be in the topic a while ago 01:50 < daniel_washere> So when is the final submission date\time? (ie EST 12:00am Friday 5th Jan) 01:51 -!- BleuLlama changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: http://ipodlinux.org 01:51 < BleuLlama> oops 01:51 < daniel_washere> =p 01:51 < daniel_washere> BHSPitMonkey: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19264 01:52 < BHSPitMonkey> haha 01:52 -!- BleuLlama changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: http://ipodlinux.org || The contest ends on the 5th! http://ipodlinux.org/ContributionContest || 4G iPods and above are officially UNSUPPORTED, please be clueful when asking. || Messed up iPod? /msg iplbot broken || Please ask before PMing || When asking for help, please state OS and iPod generation. || Development discussion: #ipodlinux-dev 01:52 < daniel_washere> opps... 01:52 < BleuLlama> phew! 01:52 < daniel_washere> BHSPitMonkey: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19247 01:53 < daniel_washere> Cant wait :P 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> daniel_washere, why all the links at me? 01:55 < daniel_washere> (12:49:37 PM) BHSPitMonkey: why no /topic publicity? 01:56 < daniel_washere> and only the bottom was right >< 01:56 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm aware of the contest, thanks :P 01:57 * daniel_washere sighs 01:59 < BHSPitMonkey> :) 02:00 < furkle> someone should make an ipod wack-a-mole 02:00 < furkle> whack* 02:01 < BleuLlama> i saw a wack-a-mole game for the DS. 02:01 < BleuLlama> i almost got it, just for the sheer stupid factor 02:01 < BleuLlama> hehe 02:01 < furkle> i just mentioned it as im playing raving rabbids on my wii and just finished beating them senseless with a shovel 02:02 < BleuLlama> :D 02:02 < BleuLlama> real gamers have PS3s; Wiis are for losers 02:02 < BHSPitMonkey> lolz 02:02 < BleuLlama> that said, we're probably going to be getting a Wii in the next couple of months 02:02 < furkle> pffft 02:02 < BleuLlama> :D 02:02 < furkle> ps3s are pieces of shit 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> indeed 02:03 * BleuLlama has no desire for a PS3 02:03 < furkle> the fact that theyre in stock everywhere says alot 02:03 * BleuLlama doesn't like Sony 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> I saw a cute wii vs ps3 video from G4 today on google video 02:03 < BleuLlama> (anymore) 02:03 < BleuLlama> their Trinitrons were awesome CRTs 02:03 < furkle> BHSPitMonkey the one with the fat chick and the scantily clad one? 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2964751562925463883 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> furkle, yeah 02:04 < furkle> yeah thats pretty good 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> my favorite part is the blu-ray rant 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> "HAVE YOU EVEN HEARD OF THE BLU-RAY???" 02:05 -!- badtag`NitroX [n=methodso@24-207-255-182.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [] 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> *zooms in on the wii chick's rear end as the fat chick rants about the blu-ray* 02:05 < daniel_washere> lol 02:06 < daniel_washere> Is there any decent games on ps3 anyway? 02:06 < BleuLlama> okay. i know i kinda started this thread, but let's get back to topic. ;) 02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> it's really impressive how many iPL people I've been seeing in the wii hacking / wiili community 02:06 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: because no one can afford a PS3 ;) 02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> I could 02:06 < furkle> final statement daniel_washere: just gran turismo (OK IM DONE) 02:06 < BleuLlama> :) 02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> I wouldn't buy it if it was half the price of the wii. (well, okay, I would, but I'd only run linux on it) 02:07 < BleuLlama> i'd use it for number crunching. 02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> crunch those numbers, damn you! 02:07 * BleuLlama wants to port ossim to that shiny Cell processor, if it hasn't been done yet 02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> "I want to know how pi ends by TONIGHT!" 02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> "And I expect 2 new prime numbers on my desk by friday!" 02:08 < BleuLlama> bah. we can factor large primes with that cpu. 02:14 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-75-41-119-4.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:20 < furkle> so do any of you know of any good tutorials for c for someone who has no experience with it what so ever? 02:22 < furkle> the extent of my programming experience is some java in high school 02:22 < BleuLlama> i can suggest a book... 02:22 < BleuLlama> you might find a bootlegged ebook of it.. 02:22 < furkle> :P 02:22 < BleuLlama> "The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie 02:22 < BleuLlama> it teaches (really well) the fundametals 02:23 < BleuLlama> it's also a good reference book 02:23 < furkle> so if one was to stumble upon some book in a back alleyway where would one look 02:23 < furkle> said book* 02:23 < BleuLlama> i dunno. i buy books. i've heard of people having electronic versions 02:23 < furkle> or i should say what back alleyway should one go down 02:23 < BleuLlama> sorry. 02:23 < BleuLlama> it's well worth the money for it though 02:23 < furkle> actually honestly how much does it normally go for because ebooks for stuff like that ive found are a pain in the ass 02:23 < furkle> easier to have hard copy on hand 02:23 < BleuLlama> i lent mine to a friend about 5 years ago, and haven't seen it since. :( 02:24 < BleuLlama> $35 i think 02:24 < furkle> oh thats not bad 02:24 < BleuLlama> it's thin, but don't be mislead by it, since it's thorough and concise 02:24 < furkle> ill have to check chapters sometime this week 02:25 < daniel_washere> or if your cheap like me :P use: 02:25 < daniel_washere> http://members.shaw.ca/ipatters/BeginC.html 02:25 < daniel_washere> (although lve seen way better online c tutorials) 02:25 < BleuLlama> there you go. i'm not familair with online tutes 02:25 < daniel_washere> i've* 02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, so it's findable at bookstores 02:26 < furkle> did you guys all teach yourself c or did you have some instruction from an institution for the most part 02:26 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: it is 02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> Barnes and Noble and such 02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> cool 02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> I might have a look at it in there sometime 02:26 < BleuLlama> I know that Barnes and Noble by us has it. Borders too 02:27 < BHSPitMonkey> from both my limited experience and the word of many experienced others, institutionalized programming instruction is a joke 02:27 < BHSPitMonkey> not the concept, but the common implementation out there 02:27 < BleuLlama> wha? 02:28 < BleuLlama> i disagree. classes will do well with going over the basics of algorithms 02:28 < BleuLlama> get you exposed in short time to lots of possibilities and potential tools in your toolbox 02:29 < daniel_washere> hmmm 02:29 < daniel_washere> >< they teach visual basic at our school :| 02:29 < daniel_washere> (or real basic.. one of them) 02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, I guess that's completely dependent on the institution and class. 02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> and the execution thereof 02:30 < BleuLlama> go to a decent college, and you'll get decent classes. 02:30 < BHSPitMonkey> but it's surely safe to say that programming classes offered in High Schools are a joke :) 02:30 < BleuLlama> well, probablym yeah 02:31 < daniel_washere> =P 02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> that was a good lesson, there 02:31 < BleuLlama> since High Schools have to cater to a much wider range of students 02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> I learned how to play Halo 02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 02:31 < daniel_washere> really? 02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> the class I took was called Business Computer Programming 02:31 < daniel_washere> and you learnt how to play halo? 02:31 < BHSPitMonkey> we did QBASIC the first semester, C++ the other 02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> (all using MS tools, Visual etc) 02:32 < daniel_washere> A bit of an odd combination... 02:32 < BleuLlama> i don't want to say what we did in high school... i'd be dating myself. heh 02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> and the teaching maneuver? He would xerox a page from the one C++ textbook, and then pass them out 02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> and we'd have to type the sample program onto our screen, and run it. 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> (it was a typing practice class.) 02:33 < daniel_washere> =O 02:33 < furkle> when i did java in high school about the only thing i used the teacher for was when i completely stumped myself 02:33 < BleuLlama> i was doing my own thing in programming classes in high school. 02:33 < furkle> and even then most of the time i figured out the problem on my own 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> 95% of the time spent was free time, playing games or e-mail etc 02:33 < BleuLlama> i'd finish my project in the first 10 minutes of class, and do my own thing for the rest of the week. 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> we were supposed to do java 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> but the teacher decided nah 02:33 < BleuLlama> email would have been nice, but... this was a while ago 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> mostly because the school didn't buy any IDEs for java 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> I showed him Eclipse 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> he didn't really care 02:34 < BleuLlama> our computer lab was a room filled with VT320s, and a MicroVax running VMS 02:34 < BleuLlama> we ran VMS Basic 02:34 < BHSPitMonkey> I spent my two periods in that classroom each day setting up ssh, vnc, and whatever else I could manage 02:34 < BHSPitMonkey> streaming media from my desktop pc, etc 02:34 < BleuLlama> there was one PET in the back, it was old even then, but it was fun to play with. :) 02:35 -!- ^0tso [n=Alex@h156n1fls34o263.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> finding the various software that our IT dept left on an open windows file server, linked in all our My Network Places' 02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> and saving what I felt like :P 02:35 < furkle> BleuLlama all the books i see are either by kernighan or ritchie but not both 02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> go tax dollars. 02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> furkle, search using quotation marks :P 02:36 < BleuLlama> the closest thing we had to a network was the one decwriter in the library that had a modem you could use to dial into Dow Jones. 02:36 < furkle> BHSPitMonkey i did >< 02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> our school district has a supernetwork, probably valuing in the hundreds of thousands 02:36 < BleuLlama> search for "The C Programming Language". first hit: http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-2nd/dp/0131103628/sr=8-1/qid=1167791771/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5451174-4885513?ie=UTF8&s=books 02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> and its run by complete idiots. 02:37 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: i have no idea what my old highschool has now 02:37 < BleuLlama> other than a new 3-story wing connecting the science wing to the art wing 02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> at lunch, we have "accounts" into which we can deposit cash, and then use it to buy food 02:37 < furkle> oop wait 02:37 < furkle> i found it on amazon 02:37 < furkle> oh lmao 02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> and our accounts house our SSN, Address, Phone, etc 02:37 < furkle> yeah i was looking on indigo 02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> the accounts database is an Access database on an open server folder with no password 02:38 < BHSPitMonkey> (The dollar amount of the account is just a numeric field in that database, too.) 02:38 < daniel_washere> Could is withdraw cash too? :P 02:38 < BHSPitMonkey> nope 02:38 < daniel_washere> damn =( 02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> but I could, say, have 1,000,000 dollars worth of Little Debbie snacks and ice cream :P 02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> it might raise an eyebrow, though. 02:39 < daniel_washere> Yay! 02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> I did change my friend's name in the system once, though 02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> it was funny 02:39 < daniel_washere> =p 02:39 < BHSPitMonkey> Sean "Midget" Jones 02:40 < BleuLlama> i did manage to get our high school to buy an Amiga 1000 when they came out, then two Amiga 2000s... one of which was in the art teacher's office, where i had exclusive use of it. :D 02:40 < BHSPitMonkey> the lunch lady did a double-take, I heard. 02:40 < BleuLlama> i really miss my amiga and amigados 02:40 < daniel_washere> LOL 02:40 < BHSPitMonkey> lol, amigados 02:41 < daniel_washere> Crazy IPL community :p 02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> why would a company name a computer something to the effect of "Feminine Friend" 02:41 * rager wonders where teh BleuLlama that kicked people for the slightest off topic comments is 02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> ;) 02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> rager, he's out having fun! 02:41 < BleuLlama> 1mb of ram, 4 color 320x400 display, 7.16mhz, and it was snappier than my 1.6ghz mac is now 02:41 < daniel_washere> =P 02:42 < BleuLlama> rager: make some contributions and you can talk off-topic too. ;) 02:42 < BHSPitMonkey> burn! 02:42 < daniel_washere> oh.... crap... *rushes back to work on contribution* 02:42 < rager> okay, okay, sorry 02:43 < BleuLlama> ;) 02:43 < rager> so, which end do the headphones plug into, again? 02:43 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 02:43 < BleuLlama> speaking of which. i'm off to add in modular animations to my contribution contest entry in that window ---> 02:43 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh 02:44 < daniel_washere> really? 02:44 * BHSPitMonkey looks at his x-chat userlist 02:44 < daniel_washere> me too =D 02:44 < daniel_washere> (except its gaim) 02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> eww 02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> IRC on gaim is for lusers 02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> and n00bs 02:44 * daniel_washere struggles to say nothing on the subject of macs 02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> and n00sers 02:44 < rager> or people that like using aim and IRC with one app 02:44 < rager> like I do 02:44 < BleuLlama> hey. people. 02:44 < BleuLlama> on topic 02:44 < BHSPitMonkey> rager, like I said... 02:44 < BleuLlama> (and use irssi) 02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> I made a contribution! 02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 02:45 < rager> n00sers? 02:45 < rager> is that n00b + luser? 02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> sure, why not 02:46 < rager> or is it just another term for journalist? 02:46 < BHSPitMonkey> that would work as well. 02:47 < rager> n00sers... 02:47 < rager> mind if I sue that, BHSPitMonkey? 02:48 < BHSPitMonkey> I really wouldn't be worth all the lawyer fees. 02:48 < rager> *use 02:48 < rager> sorry 02:48 < rager> being a bit lysdexic 02:49 < BHSPitMonkey> knock yourself out. 02:55 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:01 < furkle> god damnt theres this freaking claw game and its hard enough to get these damn things out of the dirt without efrew the retarded rabbit getting in the way 03:06 -!- rage1 [n=Administ@64.125.162.126] has joined #ipodlinux 03:06 -!- rager [n=Administ@72.54.14.130] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:13 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:25 -!- spyro_boy [n=godfathe@ool-45712c93.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:32 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:29 -!- marky-b [n=marky@216-160-41-56.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:45 < furkle> so umm 04:45 < furkle> quiet eh 04:45 < daniel_washere> lol 04:45 < BleuLlama> shhh 04:45 < furkle> :/ digg is absolutely raping websites today 04:47 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FEB6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:22 < daniel_washere> BleuLlama: Exactly what ipods will it be tested on? 05:22 < daniel_washere> (Of course you'd need to adjust the screen size ;)) 05:22 -!- IceGuest_7 [n=IceChat7@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:22 -!- IceGuest_7_ [n=IceChat7@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:23 -!- IceGuest_7 [n=IceChat7@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:23 -!- IceGuest_7_ [n=IceChat7@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:23 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:23 < deameyes> can slax be put onto an ipod that has ipodlinux on it? 05:24 < daniel_washere> Erm.. 05:24 < daniel_washere> Do you mean have it act like a hard-disk for your pc or literally run it on the ipod? 05:25 < deameyes> hard disk 05:25 < daniel_washere> I think people have done it before... But i wouldnt suggest doing so. You will kill the hard disc easily :P 05:25 < deameyes> fair enough 05:26 < deameyes> course only reason I need linux anymore is compiling things for my ipod's linux... 05:26 < daniel_washere> Live CD? and keep the necessary files on your pc hd? 05:26 < daniel_washere> =P 05:34 < deameyes> well I was just thinking so I could just boot it from usb and then I have my ipod and the development stuff on the same flashdrive 05:36 < deameyes> course figuring out how to make a canadian cross compiler for gclinux would be a great step 05:36 < deameyes> or gcc I mean 05:36 < Gimp_> deameyes: just use a livecd as daniel_washere said.. 05:37 < Gimp_> or use something like virtual PC 05:37 < Gimp_> vmware 05:39 < daniel_washere> or 05:39 < daniel_washere> UBUNTU! 05:39 < deameyes> I got ubuntu 05:40 < deameyes> I was jsut thinkin for programming on the go; course my best bet up to now would be to learn to use lithp 05:48 < deameyes> otherwise any word on rock box making a canadian cross compiler? 05:50 < BleuLlama> daniel_washere: what ipods will what be tested on? 05:53 < daniel_washere> the submission for the contest silly. 05:53 < daniel_washere> =P 05:53 < daniel_washere> submissions* 05:54 -!- jeffb [i=newt@c-71-229-131-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:54 < daniel_washere> (ie: 1G, Video, Nano, 4G). 05:55 -!- deameyes [n=IceChat7@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has quit ["He who laughs last, thinks slowest"] 05:57 < BleuLlama> well, yeah. i'm testing for mono/color in all sizes 05:57 < daniel_washere> so all generations? 05:57 < BleuLlama> yeah. whatever podzilla2 will run on 05:58 < daniel_washere> What about standalone? :p 05:58 < BleuLlama> i'll test it on real hardware if i can get a chance to as well. 05:58 < BleuLlama> standalone? 05:58 < daniel_washere> external applications. 05:58 < BleuLlama> what about it? 05:58 < daniel_washere> The same too? on each ipod 05:58 < BleuLlama> what are you talking about? 05:58 < daniel_washere> dont worry xD 05:59 < daniel_washere> So its getting test on real ipods.. thats all i needed to know. 05:59 < BleuLlama> each of us will test submissions on a few ipods, whatever we have. 05:59 < daniel_washere> Oh ok. Thanks :)! 06:00 < BleuLlama> but we'll test on desktop wherever we can for color/mono and screen sizes 06:09 -!- furkle [n=FuRkLe@bas1-stcatharines10-1167944524.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 06:17 < daniel_washere> Meh Off to do other stuff 06:17 < daniel_washere> thanks for the help and see ya =p 06:17 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit ["Leaving."] 06:29 -!- deameyes [n=mark@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:32 < deameyes> does the uclinux site's source for arm elf compilers contain everything to build a toolchain? 06:51 -!- fluffy_bunny [n=alexey@88.200.182.208] has joined #ipodlinux 06:51 -!- fluffy_bunny [n=alexey@88.200.182.208] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:55 -!- deameyes [n=mark@CPE-69-76-125-146.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:33 -!- sid77 [n=sid77@host-84-221-119-165.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ipodlinux 07:46 -!- sid77_ [n=sid77@host-84-220-79-105.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:52 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2512.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 07:53 < DerPapst_> spam: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21414 07:53 < DerPapst_> even more spam: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21411 07:53 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2512.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!"] 08:49 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-152-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 09:04 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-106-69.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:05 -!- coob [i=cube@64.38.21.114] has joined #ipodlinux 09:15 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey 09:26 < raph_ael> hello 09:29 < BHSPitMonkey> yo 10:00 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:18 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-227-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 12:04 -!- DerPapst [i=DerPapst@e06722.inf.tu-dresden.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:05 < DerPapst> spam: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=176366#176366 12:08 -!- bensch [n=bensch@89.0.231.221.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:13 -!- DerPapst [i=DerPapst@e06722.inf.tu-dresden.de] has quit ["So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!"] 12:23 -!- sIbOk [i=sNOUbOR@56.Red-80-36-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:25 < sIbOk> hello, i have a question about ipod fifth gen, i'm interested about buyin gone, but i've seen ipods marked as 5.5 gen, how could i know if the ipod i'm buying is a 5.5 gen? is there any visual difference i can appreciate (maybe a bigger screen?)? thanks :) 12:30 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 12:32 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:10 -!- bensch [n=bensch@89.0.231.221.dynamic.barak-online.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 13:11 -!- travis134 [n=travisse@ip70-190-35-92.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:12 < travis134> hello 13:12 < BleuLlama> sIbOk: they will be advertised as having a brigter screen 13:12 < BleuLlama> also, if it's 80gb, it's a 5.5 13:12 < travis134> how are you all doing? 13:12 < travis134> talking about macworld? 13:12 < travis134> cant wait for the itv 13:13 < travis134> even tho i have my xbox1 effectively set up as a streaming media player 13:16 < BleuLlama> that's next week, isn't it? 13:16 < lex> itv? :O 13:16 < lex> what's that 13:18 < travis134> never heard of it? well it supposedly is going to be like a media center 13:18 < travis134> or thats what ive heard 13:18 < lex> :o 13:18 < travis134> you can stream stuff from your amc to it 13:18 < lex> nice 13:18 < travis134> podcasts, movies, hd stuff, music, pictures, etc 13:18 < lex> would be cool but it costs a lot of course 13:19 < travis134> not too much 13:19 < travis134> but its a QUALITy product lol 13:29 -!- travis134 [n=travisse@ip70-190-35-92.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Cya'll later"] 13:53 -!- sIbOk [i=sNOUbOR@56.Red-80-36-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:21 -!- gantrixx [n=gantry@ip24-251-36-103.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 14:33 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB351B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 < DerPapst_> any forum mod feels like resizing an avatar ;) http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=18541 14:39 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-75-41-119-4.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 14:58 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@203.205.119.62] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:07 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-227-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:09 -!- scox_vincent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:13 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:26 -!- scox_vin1ent [i=vincent@mek33-2-82-224-131-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:59 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FF0FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:04 < BleuLlama> http://umlautllama.com/tmp/LlauncherDemo.mov 16:04 * BleuLlama afk for a few 16:05 < DerPapst_> awesome o.O 16:06 < fxb> yeah, nice BleuLlama! 16:06 < BleuLlama> everything you see; text, images, layout, commands to be run, are all configured in a plain text file 16:06 < BleuLlama> (INI format) 16:06 < fxb> It even fades the colors... :D cool 16:06 < BleuLlama> which can be in one of many places on the disk 16:07 < BleuLlama> fxb: yep. That's what i was working on last night 16:07 < BleuLlama> that's 3 days of work 16:07 < BleuLlama> :) 16:07 < DerPapst_> cool 16:07 < BleuLlama> i'm really good at starting projects. I'm actually pretty surprised that I pretty much completed that one. 16:07 < BleuLlama> i think i want to clean up the icon set before i submit it. 16:07 < DerPapst_> hehe... 16:07 < BleuLlama> (png images with transparency) 16:08 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-227-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 16:09 < DerPapst_> so it's already done? 16:09 < BleuLlama> i think it pretty much is. 16:09 < BleuLlama> i'm considering putting in more transitions, or perhaps some basic screenshots to show how it can be a good frontend for MAME and such... 16:09 < BleuLlama> i just want to give as much example as i can 16:10 < BleuLlama> oh. i was going to add background images too. i might drop that... it's a lot more complex than it sounds 16:10 * DerPapst_ hopes that this will help to cut down a lot of questions from newcomers 16:10 < fxb> http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/iPodLinux/ipodracer.mov (bmxr's work, but still very buggy) 16:10 * BleuLlama hopes too 16:11 < DerPapst_> fxb: hehehe looks like hours of fun 16:12 < fxb> He said it's very laggy on the iPod 16:15 < DerPapst_> fxb: how coding going? 16:15 < fxb> i think i can finish two submissions. 16:16 < DerPapst_> of 3? sounds good so far :) 16:20 < fxb> the 3rd would be a html reader using hotdog 16:20 < fxb> :D 16:23 * BleuLlama afk - work 16:25 < DerPapst_> fxb: sounds cool too ;) but afaik hotdog has some problems with iPods <= 3G. and a memory corruption bug. 16:45 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-074-043-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 -!- maquis [n=erins@166.70.63.216] has joined #ipodlinux 17:02 < maquis> I recognize that the ipod video is not "supported" by ipodlinux, but I was wondering if anybody in here has been able to get it to work so far. 17:03 < DerPapst_> the 5G yes the 5.5G no 17:03 < DerPapst_> not supported means that you don't get support from the devs. 17:03 < maquis> DerPapst_: yeah. 17:03 < maquis> hmm... mine's one of the 5.5Gs 17:04 < DerPapst_> then you'll have to wait until someone fixed the kernel 17:04 < maquis> DerPapst_: ok. interesting... 17:05 < DerPapst_> btw do you have the 30Gb or the 80Gb model? 17:05 < maquis> i've got the 30Gb model... i know rockbox supports that one 17:06 < DerPapst_> true.. the kernel works only on a HSF+ formated ipod (MacPod) 17:06 < maquis> really? 17:06 < maquis> interesting 17:06 < DerPapst_> for the 5.5G ipods 17:06 < DerPapst_> so if you convert it to a MacPod you can install iPL 17:07 < maquis> do the other ipods work for ipodlinux in both HFS+ and FAT mode? 17:07 < DerPapst_> ye 17:07 < DerPapst_> +s 17:07 < maquis> that's cool. is there any documentation up on what trouble they're having with the FAT kernel for the 5.5? 17:10 < DerPapst_> nobody knows exactly the problem why the kernel can't mount the ext2 partition (rootfs) 17:10 * DerPapst_ has to go 17:10 < DerPapst_> see you soon ;) 17:10 < maquis> DerPapst_: thanks for the info 17:10 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB351B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:36 -!- spiorf_ [n=spiorf@host8-204-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 17:42 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-227-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:58 -!- spiorf_ [n=spiorf@host8-204-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)"] 17:59 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host8-204-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 18:05 -!- oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #iPodLinux 18:30 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-074-043-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:40 -!- JazzGroove [n=sirgrand@204.169.54.193] has joined #ipodlinux 19:41 < JazzGroove> Hmm, so I start the installer, I then get the message saying I cannot install due to the fact that I am missing some .ini file. 19:43 < JazzGroove> And then there was silence. 19:44 < maquis> JazzGroove: i probably can't help, but what ipod do you have? 19:48 < JazzGroove> Video. 19:52 < maquis> JazzGroove: how new? 19:52 < maquis> is it one of the 5G or 5.5G ones? and which size is it? 19:52 < JazzGroove> Last year. 19:52 < JazzGroove> 30gb 19:52 < maquis> hmmm... 19:53 < JazzGroove> I gotta go. 19:53 < maquis> good luck 19:53 -!- JazzGroove [n=sirgrand@204.169.54.193] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:53 < maquis> i can't help anyways... 19:56 -!- marcus_ [n=marcus@81-236-218-185-no25.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 -!- DerPapst_ [n=DerPapst@pD9EB351B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 < marcus_> hello :) 19:56 < marcus_> i got problems with the ipodlinux installer 19:56 < marcus_> i got the error " 19:56 < DerPapst_> daily spam report, brought to you by der papst ;) http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21423 19:57 < DerPapst_> hi 19:57 < marcus_> error code 0 :S 19:59 < DerPapst_> when do you get it and which installer are you using? 19:59 < marcus_> ipodlinux-installer-2.2w 19:59 < marcus_> :) 20:00 < DerPapst_> and what ipod do you have? 20:00 < marcus_> ipod nano 2g :) 20:00 < marcus_> second generation 20:00 < DerPapst_> 2g or 2GB? 20:00 < DerPapst_> ah ok 20:00 < DerPapst_> then the problem is that iPL doesn't work at all on this generation. 20:01 < DerPapst_> the firmware is ancrypted on the 2G nano and no one has figured out how to crack it to run own code on it. 20:01 < DerPapst_> *encrypted 20:02 < marcus_> oh :S 20:02 < marcus_> whats iPL ? 20:02 < DerPapst_> iPodLinux 20:02 < marcus_> oh :) 20:03 < marcus_> okie :) thanx for the help anyway :) 20:03 < DerPapst_> no problem 20:03 -!- marcus_ [n=marcus@81-236-218-185-no25.tbcn.telia.com] has quit ["leaving"] 20:04 -!- DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst 20:18 -!- furkle [n=FuRkLe@bas1-stcatharines10-1167944524.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:18 -!- macpod1 [n=macpod@c-68-49-254-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:19 -!- macpod [n=macpod@c-68-49-254-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:36 -!- GodEater [i=bryan@host-83-146-15-75.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:36 < GodEater> DerPapst, you awake / paying attention ? :) 20:37 < DerPapst> jepp 20:37 < GodEater> just wanted to let you know I replied to your post about the ATA-7 nature of the 80GB's drive 20:37 < GodEater> in case you'd not seen it yet 20:38 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:38 < DerPapst> yes i've seen it. thanks for explaining :) 20:38 < GodEater> no problem :) 20:39 < GodEater> I only thought to check after I noticed Toshiba's new 100GB drive explicitly said it was ATA-7 20:39 < GodEater> it at least clears up a few of the words I'd been wondering about in the identify info 20:39 < GodEater> although I still can't make the bloody thing work =/ 20:41 -!- HardDisk_WP [n=Marco@wikipedia/harddisk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:41 < DerPapst> thats really stupid. the µclinux kernel has some problems too. it can't at least mount the rootfs if it is a ext2/ext3 partition 20:41 < HardDisk_WP> hi 20:41 < HardDisk_WP> what do i have to do to get gtkPod being able to sync photos? 20:41 < DerPapst> i'm not shure if it can mount the rootfs on the 80GB if it is a macpod. 20:43 < DerPapst> because the kernel has general problems mounting a ext2 partition as root fs if it is a 5.5G. doesn 20:43 < DerPapst> 't matter whether 30GB or 80GB 20:44 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: sorry don't know. 20:44 < GodEater> can the kernel at least read the MBR ? 20:45 < DerPapst> the text scrools to fast for reading it... it has at least detected where the ext2 partition starts.. i'll show you a picture in a few seconds. 20:45 < DerPapst> http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/55G_Kernel_panic.JPG 20:46 < DerPapst> LBAsect=64262 is the "point" where the ext3 partition starts 20:47 < GodEater> ext3 ? 20:47 < GodEater> looks like it's trying to point an hfs+ partition there 20:48 < GodEater> s/point/mount 20:48 < GodEater> although even that's a bit more progress than I've managed 20:48 < GodEater> I can't even get the darn disk to return the first sector 20:48 < DerPapst> jeah.. have noticed that too. but i'm pretty sure i've created an ext3 partition. 20:49 < DerPapst> 1st sector is the mbr? 20:49 < GodEater> yeah 20:50 < DerPapst> would it be helpful to take a look into the kernel source? 20:50 < GodEater> if you're sure you created an ext3 one then I'm guessing the kernel isn't reading the MBR either 20:50 < furkle> BleuLlama : im going to go pick up that K&R C book today but just for clarification, it starts from the very basics i assume right? 20:51 < DerPapst> GodEater: the ting is that sector 64262 is exactly the point where the ext3 partition starts... 20:51 < DerPapst> *thing 20:51 < GodEater> trouble for me is that (ironically) I have more time at work to look at it 20:51 < GodEater> but there's no way to get the kernel from CVS from my work machine 20:51 < DerPapst> heh 20:51 < DerPapst> use your ipod ;) 20:51 < GodEater> if someone could tarball it up and make it available for download it would be useful :) 20:51 < GodEater> well yeah - but that only gets me one shot in time 20:52 < GodEater> I like grabbing the rockbox tarball on a daily basis :) 20:53 < DerPapst> the kernel isn't updated here very often... i try to make a tarball. 20:54 < DerPapst> i'm looking at this file... it seems that it doesn't have any code for ata-7. http://ipodlinux.cvs.sourceforge.net/ipodlinux/linux/drivers/ide/ide.c?revision=1.2&view=markup 20:55 < GodEater> doesn't matter 20:55 < GodEater> it's backwardsly compatible 20:55 < GodEater> as far as I've been able to tell 20:55 < DerPapst> aha... it includes ata 6 20:55 < GodEater> the ipod flashbootloader doesn't set any special ATA-7 modes 20:56 < GodEater> although I originally thought it did =/ 20:56 < GodEater> but I doubly checked - and it's not 20:56 < DerPapst> so it's using only ata 6 stuff? 20:56 < GodEater> as far as I can make out 20:57 < GodEater> the new ATA-7 feature set is a new "streaming" PIO mode 20:57 < GodEater> but it's not been set on the drive 20:57 < GodEater> the *only* weird thing 20:57 < GodEater> is that the drive reports multiple logical sectors per physical sector 20:57 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, which tool should I use to repartition my iPod? 20:58 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: if possible itunes if not http://www.ipodlinux.org/Apple_Updaters#Latest 20:58 < thegeek> The long physical sector feature set allows a device to be formatted so that there are multiple logical. sectors per physical sector on the media.. 20:58 < thegeek> ;P 20:59 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, my iPod is still working 20:59 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, i only want a 15gb partition to store secret data on it 20:59 < DerPapst> ah repartition... fdisk in linux. but make a backup of your firmwarepartition. 20:59 < GodEater> thegeek, I know what it does - but the numbers amiconn and I worked out didn't seem to make sense 21:00 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, ok. but how do i do a backup? (noob question) 21:00 < thegeek> oh;P 21:00 < GodEater> and I'm not sure what difference it makes to ATA calls either 21:00 < thegeek> I'm looking at the t13 docs;P 21:00 < GodEater> since AFAIU they all work on logical sectors anyway 21:00 < GodEater> yeah - so was I 21:00 < GodEater> I've read them till my eyes bleed :) 21:00 < thegeek> ouch 21:01 < thegeek> I appreciate your continued effort 21:01 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: get http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher-win32/ipodpatcher.exe 21:01 < GodEater> amiconn thinks we need a functioning ide_reset call in ipod's rockbox build 21:01 < thegeek> I've got an 5.5 myself but I really dont have the knowledge/experience ;P 21:01 < thegeek> ah 21:01 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, oh. i cant use EXEs...i run debian 21:01 < GodEater> thegeek, neither did I when I started looking a couple of weeks before xmas 21:02 < thegeek> damn 21:02 < GodEater> I'd never done bare metal programming before 21:02 < GodEater> you just need to sit down and read =/ 21:02 < thegeek> nice progress then;) 21:02 < thegeek> yeah I know 21:02 < thegeek> I'm just too lazy;) 21:02 < DerPapst> HardDisk_WP: 32bit or 64 bit? 21:02 < GodEater> thegeek, sadly, if we all took that attitude - it'd NEVER work 21:02 < BleuLlama> furkle: yes. basics; like no knowledge of c at all 21:02 < thegeek> yes I know GodEater 21:02 < HardDisk_WP> DerPapst, 32bit 21:03 < thegeek> I have contributed a little though;P 21:03 < DerPapst> then get http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher-linux32x86/ipodpatcher 21:03 < thegeek> I donated my broken h120 21:03 < GodEater> heh 21:03 < GodEater> in that case I thank you 21:03 < GodEater> I love rockbox on the H1x0 :) 21:03 < thegeek> yeah so did I 21:03 < GodEater> I still would if the battery hadn't bascially died 21:03 < thegeek> stupid ata/usb-daughterboard ;P 21:05 < GodEater> DerPapst, does this DMA stuff actually work ?!? 21:06 < DerPapst> DMA stuff... errr... not qiuet shure what you mean. sorry 21:06 < GodEater> in that file you pointed me at 21:06 < GodEater> I'm guessing not though 21:06 < GodEater> it looks very generic and not ipod specific at all 21:07 < DerPapst> it is generic. it's from the standart uclinux kernel 2.4.24 21:07 < GodEater> I've never looked at it before sorry 21:08 < DerPapst> no need to excuse ;) 21:08 < GodEater> anyway - I've got a hot young g/f asking me to go to bed - so this'll have to wait till tomorrow :) 21:08 < GodEater> nighty night all :) 21:09 < DerPapst> hehe 21:09 < DerPapst> good night ;) 21:09 -!- GodEater [i=bryan@host-83-146-15-75.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client"] 21:11 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 -!- caas [n=LMX@c-8e1fe655.912-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:13 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: ping 21:19 < BleuLlama> pong 21:21 < DerPapst> i just viewed that awsome vid about Llauncher again. and i've noticed something and im not sure if it is a bug or not. http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/is_it_a_bug.PNG 21:21 < DerPapst> this is right before the transition ends 21:22 < DerPapst> it displays every icon doubled. 21:23 < BleuLlama> yep. that's due to the way i handle the animations right now 21:23 < BleuLlama> when i pre-render the AVI to be played on there, the last frame gets rendered twice, then the movie player that plays it back doubles the field 21:24 < BleuLlama> not really... 21:24 < DerPapst> uhh. it renders avi files o.O 21:25 < BleuLlama> nah. 21:25 < BleuLlama> forgot a return. 21:25 -!- Snake[Sleep] [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake] has joined #ipodlinux 21:25 < Snake[Sleep]> I know this isnt quit on topic, but quick question: Anyone got a good program for converting avi to mp4 on windows? (Id like near full customizablity on aspect ratio, bitrate, and format, if possible) -- obviously this is for an ipod 21:26 < Snake[Sleep]> quite* 21:26 -!- AriX [n=AriX@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:26 < BleuLlama> that's on my buglist already... but thanks. :) 21:27 < DerPapst> heh.. no problem ;) 21:27 < BHSPitMonkey> Snake[Sleep], for the Apple OS? 21:27 < Snake[Sleep]> Windows mate 21:27 < DerPapst> mp4 --> appleOS 21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> well obviously 21:28 < BleuLlama> mp4 -> mpeg4 21:28 < Snake[Sleep]> mp4 also == ipod format 21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> heh. 21:28 < BleuLlama> Snake[Sleep]: there's probably a port of ffmpeg for windows 21:28 < Snake[Sleep]> well m4v, but its mp3g 4 anyway 21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> This -> offtopic 21:28 < DerPapst> mpeg 4 --> Moving Picture Experts Group 4 :P 21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> Snake[Sleep], Videora iPod Converter 21:28 < Snake[Sleep]> BHSPitMonkey, ill check into that 21:28 < BleuLlama> end of discussion 21:28 < BHSPitMonkey> now start discussing iPL or find something else to do. 21:28 < fxb> Videora iPod Converter 21:28 < fxb> it uses ffmpeg 21:29 < BHSPitMonkey> neat, fxb 21:29 < Snake[Sleep]> hehe, I figured you guys could help me out :-) 21:29 < fxb> and you can make your own encoding profiles 21:29 < BHSPitMonkey> okay, transmission over 21:31 < Snake[Sleep]> I tried #apple first, and they just gave me a bunch of "you should be running linux!! all problems answered!" crap 21:34 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host8-204-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:36 < DerPapst> fxb: ipodlinux.org is down 21:37 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: is your 5.5G 80GB ipod a MacPod? 21:37 < BleuLlama> my 5.5g is windows 21:38 < BleuLlama> er. winpod 21:38 < DerPapst> ah ok... i would like to see if the kernel can mount a hfs+ partition on the 80GB one 21:39 < BleuLlama> my 5.5 isnt for ipl, not at least until ipl is rock stable on it 21:39 < DerPapst> hehe... that means something like never i guess ;) 21:41 < fxb> DerPapst: fixed. 21:41 < BleuLlama> i depend on that for my music at work. 21:41 < BleuLlama> i have my nano and the 4th gen and the 1st gen (which is on a shelf at home right now) for ipl dev and testing 21:42 < DerPapst> fxb: thanks. BleuLama: ok. :) 21:45 < DerPapst> fxb: still not able to open the page. 21:45 < DerPapst> mysql server is crashed again 21:46 < fxb> yeah... 21:46 < fxb> it worked for some seconds... 21:46 < BleuLlama> that's more than yesterday 21:52 -!- badtag`NitroX [n=methodso@24-207-255-182.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 < badtag`NitroX> hey 21:52 < badtag`NitroX> i need help 21:53 < DerPapst> thats nothing new -.- 21:54 < DerPapst> AriX: can you contact me on msn? 21:54 < AriX> no sorry 21:54 < AriX> doing hw 21:54 < DerPapst> ok. 21:56 < badtag`NitroX> hey 21:56 < badtag`NitroX> can u teach me step by step 21:56 < badtag`NitroX> on installing the latest stuff 21:56 < badtag`NitroX> on my nano 21:56 < badtag`NitroX> with themes 21:57 < BleuLlama> there are plenty of tutorials on the wiki and forums. plus read the topic 21:57 < badtag`NitroX> i did 21:57 < badtag`NitroX> none of the installers work 21:58 < badtag`NitroX> only 1, but everyone says that is the most outdated version of ipl 21:58 < DerPapst> then get a linux live CD and install iPL manually. 21:58 < badtag`NitroX> wait 21:58 < badtag`NitroX> do u have aim 21:58 < badtag`NitroX> or msn 21:58 < badtag`NitroX> der 21:58 < BleuLlama> `spelling 21:58 < iplbot> If I see you doing any of those horrible txting abbreviations like 'u' for "you" and 'r' for "are" again, I'm going to punch you. Hard. Consider this to be your only warning. [from BleuLlama] 21:58 < AriX> lol 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> lol 21:59 < AriX> u r an iplbot iplbot u r 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> shouldnt txting be texting? 21:59 < AriX> yea it shoudl... 21:59 < AriX> u r 21:59 < AriX> darn't 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> lol 21:59 < AriX> lol 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> hey der 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> add me to msn 21:59 -!- AriX was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 21:59 < DerPapst> hehe 21:59 -!- AriX [n=AriX@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> please 21:59 < AriX> sorry... 21:59 < badtag`NitroX> can u add me to msn derpapst 21:59 -!- badtag`NitroX was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 22:00 -!- badtag`NitroX [n=methodso@24-207-255-182.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 < AriX> wow you really don't like that stuff do you? 22:00 < BleuLlama> i asked you not to do it, then you did it. 22:00 < BleuLlama> what do you want me to do? 22:01 < badtag`NitroX> u 22:01 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*=methodso@*.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com ] by BleuLlama 22:01 -!- badtag`NitroX was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [BleuLlama] 22:01 * BleuLlama back in a few 22:03 -!- AriX is now known as AriX_ 22:07 < furkle> lmao BleuLlama another travis eh? 22:12 < DerPapst> good night at all 22:12 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB351B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:14 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-208-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*=methodso@*.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com ] by BleuLlama 22:26 -!- badtag`NitroX [n=methodso@24-207-255-182.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 < Gimp_> BleuLlama: why did you unban him... 22:27 < badtag`NitroX> i need help 22:27 < maquis> badtag`NitroX: did you read the documentation? 22:27 < badtag`NitroX> yeah 22:28 < badtag`NitroX> none of the installers work 22:28 < badtag`NitroX> for my nano 22:28 < maquis> do they give an error? 22:28 < badtag`NitroX> yeah 22:28 < maquis> and that error is... 22:28 * maquis pulls teeth.... 22:28 < badtag`NitroX> something about packages 22:28 < BHSPitMonkey> use the netless installe 22:28 < BHSPitMonkey> ...r 22:28 < badtag`NitroX> missing dependency 22:28 < badtag`NitroX> and stuff 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> i did 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> that doesnt work either 22:29 < BleuLlama> badtag`NitroX: please read the documentation and search for your answers before bugging us. you obviously didn't try these things./ 22:29 < BHSPitMonkey> you couldn't have possibly gotten dependency problems if you were really using the netless installer 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> yes i did 22:29 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama, does that sound feasible 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> yeah 22:29 < maquis> badtag`NitroX: what was the exact error? 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> for the netless one 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> it says 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> unable to write 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> nothing was written 22:29 < badtag`NitroX> then it exits 22:30 < badtag`NitroX> i have admin privelages on my computer 22:30 < badtag`NitroX> and i restored my ipod and redid everything 22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> we're not obligated to support installers and/or nanos 22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> get a linux livecd and install manually 22:31 < BleuLlama> 1. nanos are unsupported. 22:31 < BHSPitMonkey> it's well-documented that way. 22:31 < maquis> badtag`NitroX: "unable to write" what? where? 22:31 < BleuLlama> 2. if it's a second generation nano, there's no chance of it working 22:31 < BleuLlama> maquis: i think that's the installer 22:31 < Gimp_> BleuLlama: *yet* 22:31 < BleuLlama> Gimp_: if you believe that. 22:31 < badtag`NitroX> i dont know 22:32 < Gimp_> BleuLlama: meh, you guys are miracle workers. 22:32 < badtag`NitroX> but it takes like 40 min to install 22:32 < Gimp_> someone will get it eventually 22:32 < BleuLlama> badtag`NitroX: here's what you do: 22:32 < badtag`NitroX> and after 40 min 22:32 < badtag`NitroX> it says the error 22:32 < BleuLlama> 1. run the appleos restorer (itunes or standalone) 22:32 < maquis> BleuLlama: ok... i don't actually know anything about ipodlinux yet, but i tend to be reasonably good at pulling teeth, so i figured i'd jump in and try to help with that piece of the debugging 22:32 < Gimp_> badtag`NitroX: you've spent more than 40 minutes wasting your time bugging us in here 22:32 < BleuLlama> maquis: give it a shot. 22:33 < maquis> BleuLlama: :) i'm planning on sticking ipodlinux on my ipod soon... currently my ipod is not quite supported, though, so unless i get some free time to actually look at code, it'll probably be a while... :) 22:33 < BHSPitMonkey> badtag`NitroX, is the casing of your nano the old plastic kind, or the newer colored metal kind 22:34 < BleuLlama> based on what i know of the problem, and how hard it is to do, unless some major breakthrough happens, i just don't see second gen nano being cracked in the next 6 months, if ever 22:34 * BleuLlama shrugs. but that's just my impressions on the situation 22:35 < maquis> BleuLlama: any thoughts on when video 5.5 30Gb will likely be working? 22:35 < AriX_> it partly dose 22:35 < AriX_> only macpods 22:35 < BHSPitMonkey> please, give us speculation! 22:35 < AriX_> i have it on my macpod 22:35 < maquis> i heard that it's kind-of working if you use HFS+, but not for FAT 22:35 < BleuLlama> 5.5 30 does work, but it's complex to get it working right now 22:35 < AriX_> http://ipodlinux.org/5.5G (I made that page) 22:35 < BleuLlama> 80 does not, yet. 22:36 < BleuLlama> er. yeah... "does work" "kinda works" ;) 22:36 < AriX_> if you do a lot of formatting and stuff you can get the apple os too, i may put that up soon (took me a few hours to figure out and install) 22:36 < BleuLlama> AriX_: cheers on that, btw. :) 22:36 < BleuLlama> nice job. :) 22:36 < AriX_> thx 22:36 < badtag`NitroX> back 22:36 < badtag`NitroX> ok what do i do again 22:36 < BleuLlama> read your scrollback. 22:37 < badtag`NitroX> its the 1st generation 22:37 < badtag`NitroX> the glassy one 22:37 < Gimp_> maquis: the 30GB works on HFS+ formatted macpods, however you cannot load the apple firmware after installing 22:37 < badtag`NitroX> and i restored it 22:37 < AriX_> i mean thanks... sorry bleullama that was an accident 22:37 < maquis> Gimp_: ah. good to know 22:37 < BleuLlama> no problem 22:37 < AriX_> @gimp - read my above... whatever you call it (post?) 22:37 < Gimp_> AriX_: you got it working? 22:37 < Gimp_> wicked. 22:37 < badtag`NitroX> no 22:38 < AriX_> i'll say it again... 22:38 < AriX_> if you do a lot of formatting and stuff you can get the apple os too, i may put that up soon (took me a few hours to figure out and install) 22:38 < Gimp_> AriX_: yah i read that :P 22:38 < Gimp_> im still waiting for someone to figure out the 80gb :P 22:38 < BleuLlama> badtag`NitroX: i have no step 2. just do step 1 22:38 * Gimp_ has one sitting beside him 22:38 < badtag`NitroX> whats step 1 22:38 < badtag`NitroX> restore? 22:38 < BleuLlama> yes 22:38 < badtag`NitroX> i did that already 22:38 < badtag`NitroX> like 12938213 times :) 22:38 < AriX_> @gimp - they've gotten the 80gb to mostly boot but now it just can't write 22:39 < AriX_> only read 22:39 < BleuLlama> that's it then. you're done. bye! 22:39 < Gimp_> AriX_: i know 22:39 < AriX_> i think anyway 22:39 < AriX_> oh sory 22:39 < AriX_> *sorry 22:39 < Gimp_> ive done that partly 22:39 < Gimp_> it can install the loader but can't read or write from the hard drive 22:39 < badtag`NitroX> ... 22:39 < badtag`NitroX> thats not how you install ipl 22:39 < Gimp_> i was the first to get the loader installed 22:39 < BleuLlama> i just think that's the best solution for you, badtag`NitroX 22:39 < AriX_> @gimp - they've actually gotten it to boot linux now though 22:40 < AriX_> but not fully 22:40 < badtag`NitroX> ughh ok 22:40 < AriX_> it can read but not right 22:40 < AriX_> *write 22:40 < Gimp_> AriX_: ah. 22:40 * BleuLlama is designated asshole tonight 22:40 * BleuLlama just calling 'em like I's sees 'em 22:40 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: nice shirt, btw. 22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> ? 22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> the heck? 22:42 < BleuLlama> it's January 3: international honesty day. 22:42 < Gimp_> ahahah 22:42 * BleuLlama idles 22:43 < AriX_> lol ok... my turn 22:43 * AriX_ is not supposed to be on the computer, and his mom thinks he's doing homework 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> what shirt? I'm confused 23:03 < rage1> honesty day? 23:03 -!- rage1 is now known as rager 23:06 -!- badtag`NitroX [n=methodso@24-207-255-182.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [] 23:08 -!- AriX [n=AriX@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:08 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:12 < furkle> im confused too 23:12 < furkle> what shirt 23:14 -!- AriX_ [n=AriX@c-68-80-134-139.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:17 < rager> I dunno 23:17 < rager> but I'd rather not wear one 23:25 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit ["nit'y"] 23:47 -!- furkle [n=FuRkLe@bas1-stcatharines10-1167944524.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:47 -!- Cameron|lappy [n=cameron@bal-bb-cable-1-156.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:47 < Cameron|lappy> HELP 23:47 < Cameron|lappy> i deleted the firmware partition 23:47 < Cameron|lappy> ipod video 30gb 23:47 < Cameron|lappy> it wont reboot 23:47 < Cameron|lappy> and the hdd in it keeps clicking what do i do? 23:47 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-152-153.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:49 < fxb> Cameron|lappy: Diskmode -> Restore 23:49 < Cameron|lappy> where? 23:49 < Cameron|lappy> im on linux btw 23:49 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-75-68-225-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:50 < fxb> http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> oh thank god 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i thought i messed it up for good 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> phew 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> it isnt mine its my friends so yeah 23:51 < fxb> Do you hav access to iTunes? 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> im tryin to put linux on it 23:51 < fxb> have* 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i could hook up to my windows comp 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i just wanna get linux on it 23:51 < fxb> Yeah, that should work. 23:51 < Cameron|lappy> i dont wanna restore itunes 23:52 < Cameron|lappy> or do i need to to restore the firmware partition? 23:52 < fxb> Yes. Or recreate it manually. 23:52 < fxb> BUt i don't know how, sorry. 23:52 < Cameron|lappy> okay i will do it the apple way haha 23:53 < fxb> ok 23:53 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < Cameron|lappy> with ipodlinux will the ipod video be able to play xvid and divx and the like? 23:56 < Cameron|lappy> and ogg? --- Log closed Thu Jan 04 00:00:00 2007