--- Log opened Sun Oct 08 00:00:04 2006 00:21 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:27 -!- Noic3 [i=Noic3@c-212-031-176-232.cust.broadway.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:30 < BHSPitLappy> kick52, yeah. 00:31 < kick52> i dont mean to be rude, but is there a reason your replies are 1/2 - 5hrs late? 00:31 < BHSPitLappy> spite 00:31 < Stern> lol 00:32 < BHSPitLappy> and some people never highlight 00:32 < kick52> never highlight? 00:32 < kick52> i dont get you. 00:32 < BHSPitLappy> and, as such, are lucky their messages are received at all 00:34 < kick52> im having a really annoying problem, trying to launch apps from C. i have tried system, but it wont work. i think i may have soolved it though. 00:34 < BHSPitLappy> have you looked at clauncher's source 00:35 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:35 < kick52> yes, but the actual launching is very comlicated and *very* long. 00:59 < kick52> i think i have done it 01:09 < Stern> @ the devs: why did you do music as a module in pz2 and not built-in like in pz0? 01:23 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-514fe81e.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 01:29 -!- polok_ is now known as polok 01:31 < BHSPitLappy> because pz2 is modular, and pz0 isn't. duh. 01:33 < Stern> there's gotta be a better reason 01:35 < josh> replace "music" with pretty much anything and you get the same answer. 01:36 < josh> stuff was built in to pz0 because there was no other option! 01:40 < Stern> ok 01:40 < Stern> is there any advantages/disadvantages to building it in? 01:40 < Stern> *are 01:51 < BleuLlama> not really, no 01:51 < Stern> k 01:53 < Stern> me and mike were trying to decide whether to make music a modular component like MPD or build it in like in pz0 01:54 < NsN> Could someone who knows assembler take a look at this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fKEDCD32.html? This is supposed to take a 8x8 Block of 16 Bit Values and insert it into a bigger array... 01:59 -!- Stern [n=Stern@ool-44c51b38.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:34 -!- SereRokR [n=SereR0kR@Ea3ee.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:49 -!- shaxpeer [n=tbranch@70.146.210.138] has joined #iPodLinux 03:49 -!- shaxpeer [n=tbranch@70.146.210.138] has left #iPodLinux [] 04:06 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:06 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 04:49 -!- aegray [n=aegray@74.135.163.80] has joined #ipodlinux 04:50 < aegray> hehe: "Engadget reports the touch-screen on the Diebold machines cause the system to crash. "We're still struggling to see how Diebold can't manage to build a simple bit of voting software that works on their own hardware in this day and age of Doom-running iPods, but it seems they've managed to screw things up again." 05:18 < BleuLlama> hehe 05:41 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel_w@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:06 -!- z3ro [n=z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:12 -!- daniel_washere [n=daniel_w@48.68.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:20 < z3ro> has anyone looked at getting the firmware for the 2nd generation nano from apple's site? they used to do an updater program which contained the firmware images which could be extracted, but now it seems it's merged with their music archiver program. 06:20 < z3ro> I guess it would download the firmware from apple's site somewhere, then flash it. 06:21 * z3ro wouldn't mind screwing around with the 2nd generation nano's firmware (I know it's encrypted, but maybe some information can still come from it) 06:21 < z3ro> I just don't really want to spend the $300 (nzd) or whatever they go for now just to look at the firmware. 06:37 < NsN> I think there was something in the forum about that 06:38 < NsN> There is some link to an xml file i think 06:56 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°"] 06:59 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-5441259a.l6.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 06:59 < kick52> are yon calamari? 07:00 < calamari> hi kick52 07:00 < kick52> hey. 07:01 < kick52> i was up until 2:30am last night trying to get my app to work 07:02 < calamari> and now you're up at 9? 07:02 < calamari> hehe 07:02 < calamari> uploaded 0.0.8 07:03 < calamari> hold off on that, just realized there is debugging code I need to remove 07:03 < kick52> 9? well im in england so i am 7 hours in front of you 07:03 < calamari> ahh 07:03 < calamari> so 7am 07:04 < kick52> its 8:08am here 07:04 < calamari> ahh 07:04 < calamari> it is midnight here 07:04 < kick52> oh.... 07:05 < kick52> i must be wrong 07:05 < calamari> I live in Arizona, so that might be throwing off your calculation.. we don't do daylight savings time 07:08 < kick52> oh right... anyway, i have this really annoying bug. i use a system() call to load the app. but, when it is called, it dosent load. i don know what the error code is at the moment, because i have a screen_clear() in the program (i'll try debugging in a min.) though, i tested a simple 3 line app with a system() call right at the bottom, and it loaded fine.... 07:10 < kick52> ...but for some reason it doesnt work in the middle of the code. so i tried putting the system() call in an atexit() void. but it didnt work. i tried putting exit(0); after it, but it still didnt work. this is so annoying. 07:10 < calamari> is there enough ram to run both programs at the same time? 07:11 < kick52> well, loadzilla doest use any resources, just 7 libraries... 07:13 < kick52> ok, im going to try it with out the screen_clear(), and see if i get an error code. have you ever used/had problems with system() 07:13 < kick52> ? 07:15 < z3ro> NsN: sorry, I was away for a bit. 07:15 < z3ro> NsN: I'll go search the forums. 07:19 < z3ro> NsN: happen to remember which forum it's in, I'm having a hard time finding it. 07:21 < kick52> calamari: ok, i put the debug code in, and there is no error for the system(). it just seems to go back to the while loop, even though there is an exit(0); after it. i'll put in some debug code to see if it even executes the system(); 07:21 < calamari> I've used system, but haven't had problems with it 07:22 < calamari> of course, this wasn't on an ipod :) 07:22 < kick52> oh cool. i didnt see you said 0.0.8 was out. i'll download it. what new stuff is there? 07:24 < kick52> im looking through the code now. 07:25 < kick52> hey! demo 4. 07:25 < kick52> i'll take a snap 07:26 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-127.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 07:27 < NsN> z3ro: I think it was the link by "Der Papst" somewhere at the bottom: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17362&start=90 07:27 < calamari> yeah it needs work still, I have to implement varargs 07:27 < calamari> never really used that before 07:27 < z3ro> NsN: I'll take a look. thanks. :) 07:28 < kick52> cool. nice new features. im definatly gonna use the keyboard_read() thing. save me manually converting \r to \n 07:29 < z3ro> bbl 07:32 -!- SereRokR [n=SereR0kR@Ea3ee.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [] 07:33 < kick52> shall i take a pic of all of the demos are just one? (because there are improvements to some of the code) 07:34 < calamari> oh, do some work better now? 07:34 < kick52> well, youve changed some library code, so i thought i'd ask you. but i'll try them and give you the results. 07:35 < calamari> there shouldn't be much difference 07:35 < calamari> printf_center only accepts strings right now, but when I finish it, it should be just like printf 07:35 < calamari> will probably also make printf_left and printf_right 07:38 < kick52> i have to build some other debug stuff for my system() problem, so i'll test 'em in a minute 07:39 < calamari> no rush.. I found a few more things while making that, so I'll probably be making 0.0.9 tomorrow 07:39 < calamari> I can change the color for underline and bold, so maybe I can fix them 07:40 < calamari> anyhow, I need to go to bed, ttyl 07:40 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:40 < kick52> bye 07:43 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@194.97.163.238] has joined #ipodlinux 07:48 -!- NsN [i=Gaspode@wh282.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [] 08:01 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@194.97.163.238] has quit [] 08:05 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=scooter@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:08 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:27 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@66.19.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 08:28 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@pool-68-237-104-67.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:32 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:38 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-69-124.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:39 -!- Antr4x [i=Antr4x-i@81-234-253-161-no40.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:41 < Antr4x> Hi, when i shall install ipodlinux to my ipod mini 1g, can i follow this guide?http://ipodlinux.org/Installation 08:42 < kick52> what computer are you using? 08:42 < Antr4x> PC, windows xp 08:42 < Antr4x> why? 08:44 < kick52> well, you need a computer to install ipodlinux, so i wanted to know which type you had so i could lead you to an installer. here is probably the best method for you. http://ipodlinux.org/Installer_2 08:44 < BHSPitLappy> Let us know how that one works for you. 08:45 * z3ro finds it funny how people who are using windows want to install gnu/linux on their ipods, but haven't even installed it on a computer yet... 08:45 * kick52 wonders why z3ro finds it so funny. 08:46 < z3ro> kick52: well, just seems that most of those people don't know gnu/linux, and have no idea how to use it. 08:46 < kick52> yer. 08:46 < z3ro> kick52: yet then want to install it on their ipods. 08:46 < kick52> i agree. 08:47 < BHSPitLappy> to "use" gnu/linux is a very vague statement. 08:47 < BHSPitLappy> any idiot can use podzilla. 08:47 < BHSPitLappy> any idiot can use an Ubuntu desktop. 08:48 < z3ro> BHSPitLappy: by use, I mean, actually knowing something about the system, and being able to fix problems. 08:48 < BHSPitLappy> more advanced users know how to comfortably use a commandline on a PC linux distro 08:48 < z3ro> perahps use is the wrong term... maybe "understand" 08:48 < BHSPitLappy> or... manage modules and stuff on iPL 08:49 < kick52> BHSPitLappy: You didnt mention PPC linux distros. not that it matters 08:49 < BHSPitLappy> kick52, no, it doesn't matter :) 08:49 < BHSPitLappy> and, I really don't see why it's so far-fetched to start using linux on an iPod instead of a PC 08:49 < kick52> yay! i got my loader to load stuff! i think that key_chart page was wrong. '\n' does mean the center button. 08:50 < BHSPitLappy> it's a less drastic, crucial change to one's life to make 08:50 < BHSPitLappy> and it gets you started learning a few fundamentals 08:50 < BHSPitLappy> it should. 08:50 < kick52> i think z3ro means people that have no idea about gnu/linux want to use it? 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> it's a dead topic 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> kick52, what do you mean it's wrong 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> that -is- what center button sends 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> newline 08:51 < z3ro> BHSPitLappy: my point is, these windows people come along, and want to install gnu/linux onto their ipod without even understanding gnu/linux. then complain because they can't use it. 08:51 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> I guess. 08:51 < kick52> well, the key chart page said that it was '\r' on ipod builds. 08:51 < z3ro> or complain when there isn't some gui to do it all for them. 08:52 < Antr4x> I got error when i install it, "missing dependency" The packade you selected, 'libstdcxx'... and some more erroes 08:52 < BHSPitLappy> z3ro, there isn't a gui? 08:52 < kick52> www.ipodlinux.org/key_chart 08:52 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 08:52 < kick52> there you go ^ 08:52 < z3ro> BHSPitLappy: no, I mean, they complain because they might have to actually type a command instead of having a flashy gui do it all for them. 08:53 < BHSPitLappy> kick52, hmm, is \r return? 08:53 < BHSPitLappy> z3ro, well, where does that happen much anymore around here? 08:53 < BHSPitLappy> unless you mean the days when we had to talk people through manual installations all the time 08:54 < kick52> look at the page: Action (Center) enter 08:54 < kick52> \n on desktop builds, 08:54 < kick52> \r on ipod builds 08:54 < BHSPitLappy> now we can just give them a link to installer2, and they report back to us why it's not working (see about 10 lines above) 08:54 < BHSPitLappy> Antr4x, can you deselect libstdcxx ? 08:55 < z3ro> BHSPitLappy: just talking about windows people doing anything gnu/linux related in general. they go and install gnu/linux, without actually understanding it at all. 08:56 < BHSPitLappy> ok 08:58 < Antr4x> No, its coming after i have selected ipodloader as the "theme" 09:06 < kick52> i have a problem with my launcher. it loads fine and stuff, but say i loaded floydzilla, and then i rebooted through floydzilla, it would just end back up at my program. is there any way to launch a program and quit my program at the same time? 09:26 < BHSPitLappy> is floydzilla supposed to load competently? 09:26 < BHSPitLappy> also, I think falling back to the launcher is good behavior. 09:32 < kick52> yes.. but i want the shut down in podzillae to work 09:38 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 09:40 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has joined #ipodlinux 09:42 < BHSPitLappy> shutdown SHOULD work. 09:43 < BHSPitLappy> do you have a working set of the poweroff binaries? 09:44 < kick52> oh, turn off works. but not restart 09:45 < Antr4x> I took shut down podzilla and now my ipod has lagged out, it says slepping forever 09:48 < Antr4x> Fixed it now, but i wonder what file browser is? I cant do anything in there... 09:51 -!- talon_ [n=talon@z199.61-125-42.ppp.wakwak.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 09:53 < Antr4x> I cant take diskmode 09:55 < Antr4x> Cause i want to format it 09:55 < Antr4x> Or copy in some games 09:57 < Antr4x> Can someone help me to take diskmode? 09:58 < Antr4x> Fixed it, but where do i put the games in? 09:59 -!- Antr4x [i=Antr4x-i@81-234-253-161-no40.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 10:36 -!- himitsu_ [n=himitsu@203.205.119.226] has joined #iPodLinux 10:36 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 10:53 -!- himitsu__ [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:58 -!- erus` [i=erus_@80-41-51-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 -!- erus` [i=erus_@80-41-51-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 11:12 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@66.19.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 11:25 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@66.19.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:33 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-127.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:34 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-127.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 11:45 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-5441259a.l6.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Quitting!"] 11:56 -!- CiSC [n=CiSC@adsl-ull-35-152.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ipodlinux 11:56 < CiSC> hi 11:57 < CiSC> i tried to download the ipod nano installer from here: http://70.84.4.50/~zero5549/ipodlinux.rar 11:57 < CiSC> but a 404 error was shown me 11:58 < CiSC> someone can help me? 11:58 < CiSC> could someone send me that package? 11:58 < CiSC> thanks in advice 11:59 < CiSC> advance* 11:59 < CiSC> :D 12:01 -!- Kingstone [i=Snape@87.69.63.56.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 12:02 < Kingstone> josh or davidc here? 12:06 -!- CiSC [n=CiSC@adsl-ull-35-152.41-151.net24.it] has quit ["- www.di-gi.cjb.net bEsT |||||| ScRipT wWw.Di-Gi.cJb.nEt"] 12:10 -!- aegray [n=aegray@74.135.163.80] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:34 < Kingstone> does anyone know an itunesdb class? 12:34 < Kingstone> i have one but it is not updated to latest itunes version 13:18 -!- MacOS [n=MacOS@88.218.44.113] has joined #ipodlinux 13:20 < MacOS> hello people. i was just wondering if it is possible to install unix in a 5th generation ipod from mac. i just hear about linux running in ipods and looking over the internet i read that it's not safe for the 5th generation ipods to do so... is that trouth? 13:54 -!- MacOS [n=MacOS@88.218.44.113] has quit [Client Quit] 14:06 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:20 -!- jannis [n=jannis@R5ddb.r.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:23 -!- talon_ [n=talon@z199.61-125-42.ppp.wakwak.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:25 -!- z3ro [n=z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:29 -!- z3ro [n=z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 14:32 -!- jeje [i=ircap8@208.Red-83-49-20.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:38 < jeje> hello 14:39 < jeje> somebody knows when nano 2G will be supported? 14:40 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host208-127.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:41 < jeje> thanks for all 14:41 < jeje> :(((( 14:46 -!- jeje [i=ircap8@208.Red-83-49-20.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:15 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@66.19.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:33 -!- jannis [n=jannis@R5ddb.r.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:45 -!- erus` [i=erus_@80-43-52-162.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:46 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54400aee.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 15:46 < kick52> anyone on? 15:47 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:56 -!- canuckid [n=canuckid@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:56 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@pool-68-237-104-67.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:57 < erus`> haha i found some of my code on google code search :) and i wasnt even looking for it 15:57 < erus`> and itwas in a zip 16:07 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:07 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 16:09 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:21 < Kingstone> kick52 16:21 < Kingstone> need something? 16:26 < kick52> hi, no, just wondering if anyone was on 16:29 < erus`> iam :) 16:30 < kick52> actually, i do need help. i n 16:31 < kick52> i need in C to exit the program and lauch another 16:31 < kick52> and, whats up with the dev chanel? 16:42 -!- jannis [n=jannis@R5ddb.r.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:42 < jannis> hello freaks 16:42 < jannis> will RISC-OS assembler work on the iPod? 16:43 < jannis> I got a pure-integer MP3-encoder here, just 3 functions (called "32bit fractional multiplication") are in ASM 16:43 < jannis> the rest compiles cleanly 16:43 -!- Pacer [n=mels_bro@a211049.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 16:47 -!- ankit_ [n=chatzill@c-69-248-121-108.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:48 < ankit_> has anyone tried the new nano firmware (1.2)? if so, whats new that would warrant an update? 16:50 < Pacer> Hi all 16:50 < Pacer> Linux doesn't seem to start here 16:50 < Pacer> I do see the linux penguin at the start tho 16:51 < Pacer> But the ipod doesnt boot linux when I hold rewind 16:51 < Pacer> Anyone knows what's wrong? 16:55 < Pacer> Anyone at all? :P 16:57 < Pacer> Meh im gonna try the other install then 16:57 < Pacer> hope that will work 16:59 -!- bersace [n=bersace@82.243.217.90] has joined #ipodlinux 17:00 < bersace> Hi 17:00 < bersace> where is hotdog.h file ? 17:00 < bersace> compiliing ttk complain about that file 17:01 -!- jintxo [n=jintxo@166.Red-81-36-230.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 < canuckid> use make NOHDOG=1 17:01 < canuckid> if you don't have hotdog compiled 17:01 < bersace> canuckid: thanks, 17:02 < jintxo> hi guys, very new to this (got an ipod for bday, yay!) and was wondering what podzilla everyone recommends? I'm thinking of floydzilla for now, is pz2 "stable"? 17:02 < canuckid> np 17:02 < bersace> canuckid: is that bad not to have hotdog ? 17:03 < canuckid> jintxo, pz2 runs fine 17:04 < jintxo> excellent, it really looks like the way to go, but with all the warnings on the wiki I was somewhat reticent :-) 17:04 < canuckid> I would recommend using Triple Threat but it seems as though it doesn't work with the newer ipod updates 17:06 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54400aee.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 17:11 -!- canuckid [n=canuckid@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0b2/2006082115]"] 17:11 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54477ff6.wfd89a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 < bersace> hi all 17:12 < bersace> i installed iPodLinux using the Installation howto 17:12 < bersace> all builded nice 17:13 < bersace> but when i reboot, i got a screen in several picture and the firmware seems to wait for firmware upgrade 17:14 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host167-125.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 17:14 < kick52> what? can you post pics? 17:17 -!- ankit_ [n=chatzill@c-69-248-121-108.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006100319]"] 17:25 -!- erus` [i=erus_@80-43-52-162.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 17:30 < bersace> kick52: wait a minute :) 17:30 < kick52> ok 17:30 < Pacer> there goes nothing 17:31 < jintxo> what about size for linux partition on a 4GB nano ... ... 128MB enough? 17:43 < bersace> kick52: http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/Images/Captures/iPod/ 17:44 < bersace> i have the tiny apple screen before (as usual) 17:44 < bersace> i got my ipod yesterday 17:44 < bersace> that's a sept 06 5G 17:44 < jannis> will RISC-OS assembler work on the iPod? 17:44 < jannis> I got a pure-integer MP3-encoder here, just 3 functions (called "32bit fractional multiplication") are in ASM 17:44 < jannis> the rest compiles cleanly 17:44 < kick52> wow. thats strange. never seen that before. 17:44 < kick52> wait, did you say it was the newest kind of pod? 17:45 < bersace> yep 17:45 < bersace> i'm sure that's the reason :) 17:46 < kick52> yes, it doenst work. 17:46 < bersace> ok 17:46 < kick52> you cant install ipl on them yet 17:46 < bersace> :| 17:46 < bersace> how can i hear my ogg on it ? 17:46 < kick52> you have screwed up your ipod. restore it. 17:46 < bersace> (i only have ogg) 17:46 < kick52> you cant. 17:46 < bersace> :'( 17:46 < bersace> will have to wait 17:48 -!- bersace [n=bersace@82.243.217.90] has left #ipodlinux ["À plus tard !"] 17:48 < jintxo> hm, if I delete the partition containing my music and Calendar, etcetera, does the folder structure get re-created automatically letr on my the iPOD firmware or will I have to do that myself. I guess it's no big deal, since I'm gonna tar it up before doing anything to it, but I'm curious 17:49 < jintxo> "later on by the" ... argh 18:01 < Pacer> blah 18:02 < Pacer> I'm trying to install triplepz atm and it jsut 18:02 < Pacer> doesnt work lol 18:02 < Pacer> While loading it sais stuff like 18:02 < Pacer> Unable to create 18:02 < Pacer> and then that a couple times 18:07 < jannis> jintxo: iTunes will recreate it 18:52 -!- Pacer [n=mels_bro@a211049.upc-a.chello.nl] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:53 -!- erus` [n=Tom@AC8F661B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:57 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 19:02 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:02 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:03 -!- Megaf [n=ArchUser@201.15.161.38] has joined #iPodLinux 19:03 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host167-125.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:21 -!- mzilikazi [n=mzilikaz@70-32-151-128.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:26 < mzilikazi> i sort of inherited a 1G ipod w/ ipodlinux - it is possible to uninstall ipodlinux from my linux machine? i have no win boxen 19:28 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:31 < kick52> iplbot: hello 19:34 < mzilikazi> i can mount the ipod no problem but cannot copy any files to it from gtkpod - yamipod doesn't see the ipod as mounted - fdisk does not like the partition table 19:34 < mzilikazi> http://paste.debian.net/14530 19:34 < mzilikazi> that is normal? 19:38 < kick52> you should try and restore it to see if you get back disk usage. 19:41 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:42 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@207.144.102.123] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 < burnhamd> hey i need some help in locating my ipod in linux 19:43 < kick52> carry on 19:43 < burnhamd> i did the cat proc/scsi..... 19:43 < burnhamd> and it came up with my ipod as being number scsi5 19:44 < burnhamd> and this should be sdf going by the documentation on your webiste 19:44 < burnhamd> but it isnt 19:45 < burnhamd> any other way to figure out what it is 19:45 < mzilikazi> burnhamd: fdisk -l 19:45 < kick52> mmm... i dont really know what you mean 19:46 < burnhamd> yea did that command too but it only came up with one disk 19:46 < burnhamd> and the ipod and me computer are formatted similar and i dont know how big a block is in bytes 19:47 < mzilikazi> surely you know which drive your OS is on no? 19:47 < mzilikazi> and if there is only 1 disc then it must not be seen 19:47 < burnhamd> the ipod is mounted at this moment 19:48 < mzilikazi> well then you have found it 19:48 < mzilikazi> mount 19:48 < mzilikazi> will tell you what is mounted where 19:49 < burnhamd> ok according to mtab it is sdb 19:50 < burnhamd> ok now i dump the old-firmware and the howto ways it should be 120 megs but it is only like 7 19:50 < burnhamd> is this incorrect 19:50 < burnhamd> ipod mini by the way 19:50 < kick52> what computer are you using? 19:51 < burnhamd> linux 19:51 < burnhamd> ubuntu 19:52 < jintxo> i find it odd that make_fw (linux 64 bit) and make_fw.exe as well as ipod_fw.exe all produce a 40 byte file. it doesn't seem valid (is it?). would seem like a problem with the partition image i extracted w/ dd? 19:59 < jannis> burnhamd: what does "dmesg | grep attach" tell you? 19:59 < jannis> and: 7MB are ok, my 3G had about 8 MB 19:59 < burnhamd> ok then 20:00 < burnhamd> im good later guys 20:00 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@207.144.102.123] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:01 -!- Megaf [n=ArchUser@201.15.161.38] has left #iPodLinux ["Time makes no sense"] 20:11 < kick52> does anyone here know why the dev channel is screwed up? 20:13 -!- mzilikazi [n=mzilikaz@70-32-151-128.clspco.adelphia.net] has left #ipodlinux ["WeeChat 0.2.1"] 20:22 -!- Jonbo [n=Jonbo123@adsl-074-229-245-180.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:28 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 < kick52> does anyone here know why the dev channel is screwed up? 20:35 < Soap> it is? 20:37 < kick52> i cant talk to it. and i havent been banned 20:41 -!- venox [n=luiz@200.103.148.139] has joined #ipodlinux 20:43 < venox> anyone here wants to test the new igamegear release? 20:43 < venox> :D 20:44 < kick52> i might 20:45 -!- idh [n=idh@c-8530e253.1130-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 20:48 < Kingstone> yeah what's up with the dev channel? 20:49 -!- Kingstone [i=Snape@87.69.63.56.cable.012.net.il] has quit [Client Quit] 20:50 < kick52> cool. type /help on the freenode server. 21:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@pD9EB2870.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:04 < DerPapst> kick52: to answer your question: you have to be invited to the dev channel. otherwise you can't talk 21:04 < kick52> oh cool thanks. 21:05 < DerPapst> also you can't read what they are talking :-/ 21:06 < courtc> Incorrect. The it is a moderated channel however. You can't talk unless voiced. There is notrmanlly a bot which voices people when they enter the channel, but it was dead for a while. 21:06 < courtc> s/ The it/ It/ 21:06 < courtc> *normally 21:07 < DerPapst> ah. mkay 21:07 < DerPapst> so now the dev channel is fine again (i mean the bot) 21:08 < DerPapst> also whats up with the iPL-SVN bot.. i miss it. 21:14 < jannis> will RISC-OS assembler work on the iPod? 21:14 < jannis> I got a pure-integer MP3-encoder here, just 3 functions (called "32bit fractional multiplication") are in ASM 21:14 < jannis> the rest compiles cleanly 21:14 < kick52> you have asked that 3 times. exactly the same question. 21:14 < jannis> true, but now devs are here 21:15 < jannis> "the rest" meaning the pure-integer-C-code 21:15 < DerPapst> yeah because he wants a answer ^^ is the assemblercode for arm architecture? 21:16 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@194.97.163.238] has joined #ipodlinux 21:16 < kick52> i dont think so, because it compiles for riscos, it does compile it for arm, but it will be different because of risc os (i have a few acorns in my room) i think... 21:18 < jannis> DerPapst: It's RISCOS-asm and RISCOS is for ASM 21:18 < jannis> eehh.... *ARM 21:20 < venox> wooops 21:20 < jannis> am i wrong? 21:21 < DerPapst> k. i don't have any knowledge about asm. can't you just compile it and then test it on your iPod? 21:21 < kick52> well, i dont think it will work because RISC-OS is different to linux 21:21 < venox> kick52: if you want to test the new igamegear, check the forum thread :) 21:21 < kick52> k 21:21 < kick52> im off to bed now 21:21 < kick52> bye 21:22 < venox> ;) 21:22 < jannis> kick52: but ASM works on the CPU, not on the OS 21:23 < jannis> and iPL and RISC-OS both run on ARM 21:25 < DerPapst> jannis: is this mp3 player commandline? if yes try to test it on your iPod. 21:25 < erus`> whats it called that you draw onto? 21:25 < erus`> cant remember the term 21:25 < jannis> it is 21:25 < erus`> like a buffer 21:25 < jannis> DerPapst: I can't yet compile the ASM-code 21:25 < jannis> because it's bad formatted 21:26 < DerPapst> ah ok. 21:26 < jannis> the arm-uclinux-elf-as doesn't see the comments 21:26 < jannis> and tries to compile 'em 21:26 < jannis> and I want to check wether the result of the reformatting is good 21:26 < DerPapst> erus: stack? don't know ^^ 21:26 < erus`> canvas ? 21:26 < erus`> canvas :) 21:26 < jannis> and if someone tells me "it won't work", I won't reformat the code 21:27 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-54477ff6.wfd89a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 21:27 < jannis> I mean lame works on the iPod but it's slow because of the floats 21:28 < DerPapst> yes.. is mpd based on floats? 21:29 < jannis> eerr.... dunno ;) 21:29 < jannis> I think the MP3-decoder is 21:29 < jannis> it's just highly-optimized as I read in the wiki 21:30 < DerPapst> sorry i understand the problem but i can't help you at all. try to email or pm a dev if they don't answer in irc. 21:32 < jannis> yeah, ok 21:32 < jannis> I'll hack a little around the problem ;) 21:33 * jannis is german, too (btw) 21:33 < DerPapst> good luck :) 21:33 < jannis> ty 21:33 < DerPapst> heh.. 21:34 < DerPapst> dann können wir uns jetzt unterhalten ohne das einer was versteht ^^ 21:34 < jannis> and one teacher at my old school, who was the boss of all servers and all PCs at my school (I was admin there, too) was named "Alexander Pabst" 21:34 < DerPapst> lol 21:34 < jannis> so you actually remind me of him =D 21:35 < jannis> but nvm, I'm gonna hack a little 21:36 < jannis> wanna have the encoder running, maybe I'll find a decoder, too 21:36 < DerPapst> hopefully it will work :) 21:36 < jannis> I'll let y'all know, be sure ;) 21:38 < jannis> Mh.... libmap is integer-only 21:38 < jannis> so the MP3-decoder that MPD uses is interger-only 21:40 < DerPapst> k... but maybe the asm one is more optimized (wild guess). 21:40 < jannis> but the thing I work on is for encoding to MP3 21:40 < jannis> so not for playback ;) 21:41 < jannis> What gen do you have? 21:41 < DerPapst> 3g and 5.5G 21:41 < jannis> I'm suffering the slow 3G-bugged-processort 21:41 < jannis> which can't even play 128kbits 21:41 < jannis> BUT: can record line-in as the only generation 21:42 < jannis> and the quality is amazing 21:42 < DerPapst> yes i know.. i've got mpd working only once :D 21:42 < DerPapst> and playback was horrible ^^ 21:43 < DerPapst> i've used the recording function not often.. but yeah. quality is ok. 21:43 < jannis> MPD is no prob at mine but the speed really sucks 21:43 < jannis> I'm working on a recording-module for pz2 21:44 < jannis> besides the MP3-encoding thing 21:44 < DerPapst> i guess i have too many modules ^^ 21:44 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:44 -!- infester [n=infester@my.nada.kth.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 < infester> is anyone else facing problems with the linux installer for macosx using a 5g? 21:45 < infester> the script does not find my ipod 21:46 < DerPapst> a recording module would be great... i see already the post: "why does it not working on my 4G/5G/nano/whatever?" 21:46 < jannis> DerPapst: I got nearly all available modules installed 21:46 < jannis> Yeah, I know, just works on 1, 2 and 3G 21:46 < DerPapst> o rly? hmm.. strange 21:46 < jannis> the three with the bugged CPU 21:47 < jannis> Oh, I'm wrong 21:47 < jannis> 1 and 2G don't work 21:47 < jannis> but 4G, photo and mini do 21:47 < DerPapst> 3G only. we have the best iPod ever" 21:47 < DerPapst> *! 21:48 < jannis> video untested 21:48 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host81-143.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 < jannis> we got the prettiest iPod 21:48 < jannis> That was the reason I chose it 21:48 < infester> Does anybody know if it's worth trying to install ipodlinux on a 5g using mac? 21:48 < DerPapst> true. 21:48 < DerPapst> infester: why not 21:49 < infester> DerPapst: the mac installation website is down, and the linux-script ported to mac does not find my ipod :( 21:49 < DerPapst> i don't have a mac but others a able to install it with a mac. 21:49 < infester> DerPapst: i've heard that the installation program for mac does not support 5g, are you sure? 21:49 < DerPapst> how does the script finds the ipod? 21:50 < infester> checks if its mounted using the "mount" program, i'm not leet enough to check the sourcecode though, but it looks ok... want me to paste the line? 21:51 < DerPapst> yeah.. do so 21:51 < infester> $line =~ m/(\/dev\/disk\d+s)3 on (\/Volumes\/.*) \(local,/) 21:52 < infester> and my mounts output would be 21:52 < infester> /dev/disk1s3 on /Volumes/ipod (local, nodev, nosuid, journaled) 21:54 < jannis> looks good, though 21:54 < infester> maybe its further down the script, let me take a look 21:54 < DerPapst> i don't have a mac... can't you just use mount to find out where your ipod is mounted (e.g /dev/disk2) and then hardcode it in the scriptfile? 21:54 < jannis> I would say the regexp matches the output of mount 21:55 < DerPapst> jannis: do you have a mac? 21:55 < jannis> no, though I'd like t'have one 21:55 < jannis> using Gentoo Linux on x86 here 21:55 < DerPapst> heh me too 21:55 < DerPapst> suse 10 and windoof 21:56 < jannis> I see 21:58 < DerPapst> infester: do you use this one? http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8138 21:59 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 21:59 < infester> yes i think so, i downloaded the one from the website, looks like the same adress, ill check it up 22:00 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit ["Bye !"] 22:01 -!- Jonbo [n=Jonbo123@adsl-074-229-245-180.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:01 < jannis> pew, ASM is hart zu debuggen :( 22:02 < infester> yep same one 22:03 < DerPapst> jannis: glaub ich. hab ma n bisschen mit asm in turbo pascal rumexperimentiert.. habs dann aber lieber gelassen 22:04 < jannis> oha, TurboPascal hab' ich mal in der schule gelernt. aber ohne ASM 22:04 < DerPapst> ich auch. 3 jahre ^^ 22:05 < jannis> ich nur eins 22:05 < DerPapst> infester: which firmware do you run? 22:05 < jannis> is eigentlich ganz gut die srache, ausser dass es an libs mangelt für neuere sachen (network-stack, opengl, ...) 22:05 < infester> DerPapst: the newest mac one 22:06 < DerPapst> jannis: in den 3 jahren hab ich aber nicht wirklich viel gelernt. 22:06 < DerPapst> firmware 1.2? 22:06 < infester> yes 22:06 < DerPapst> do you get: -> No valid iPod detected. 22:07 < jannis> DerPapst: ich hab' mich in der zeit anhand von tutorials so durchgearbeitet. In der Schule immer den Lehrer verblüfft ("Hä, warum iss'n der text bei dir farbig?") und den anneren geholfen 22:07 < infester> -> Looking for iPods... 22:07 < infester> -> No iPod(s) found. 22:07 < infester> thats what i get 22:07 < DerPapst> jammis: hmm.. kommt mir do bekannt vor :D ich hab irgendwann angefangen bei meiner lehrerin die programme zu debuggen. 22:08 < infester> when i access the ipod via terminal and try cat SysInfo i get no output, is it suppose to be that way? like hidden or something? 22:09 < jannis> infester: you don't have the SysInfo-file? that's bad 22:09 < DerPapst> no on firmware 1.2 the file doesn't exist anymore 22:09 < infester> i have the file, but nothing in it 22:09 < infester> k 22:09 < DerPapst> you need it 22:09 < infester> how do i get it? 22:09 < DerPapst> i mean its empty 22:09 < DerPapst> wait 22:09 < infester> thanks :* 22:10 < jannis> DerPapst: Einmal sollten wir in einer Schulaufgabe ein Programm schreiben und der hat mir nen halben Punkt abgezogen, weil ich ne Var deklariert aber ned auf 0 gesetzt, aber später increased hab. 22:10 < jannis> DerPapst: Hab' ich ihm das auf nem Rechner bewiesen, dass Integers immer 0 sind nach der deklaration 22:10 < jannis> DerPapst: Hat er mir den Punkt halt doch wieder gegeben 22:11 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=159197#159197 22:12 < DerPapst> hehe... dat aren noch schöne zeiten :) 22:12 < DerPapst> immer für den hablen kurs das programm geschrieben.. komisch das alle die gleichen funktionen hatten (und auch die code formatierung immer die gleiche war) 22:13 < jannis> jaja, schulzeit ...... 22:13 < DerPapst> infester: click on the link above and copy the content for your ipod into the sysinfo file 22:13 < DerPapst> and add your serial number. 22:13 < infester> thanks 22:13 < infester> yea 22:14 < DerPapst> and don't reboot your ipod 22:14 < DerPapst> it will overwrite the sysinfo file again 22:14 < DerPapst> reboot it if you have installed ipl 22:15 < DerPapst> jannis: fang jetzt an auf c umzusteigen.. glücklicherweise haben pascal und c doch viele gemeinsamkeiten. 22:16 < jannis> bin grad dabei, C zu lernen. Erkennbar am Recording-Moul 22:16 < jannis> BTW: Das Metronome-Modul für pz2 hab' ich auch geported 22:16 < jannis> also C lesen und patchen kann ich schon =D 22:16 < DerPapst> hehe.. ich hab tic-tac-tux gemacht. 22:17 < jannis> aber verglichen mit TurboPascal is C ne ganze Ecke härter...... so was zeiger, zeiger auf zeiger, typenkonvertierung und so is 22:17 < DerPapst> naja.. bei c lesen tu ich mich bei etlichen dingen noch verdammt schwer. 22:17 < infester> it's working! thanks alot DerPapst :* 22:17 < DerPapst> in pascal hab ich auch schon mit zeigern gearbeitet. die gibts da auch 22:18 < DerPapst> infester: fine :) 22:18 < jannis> weiß ich, hab' ich aber da nie gebraucht 22:18 < infester> Who should i contact to update the info on web about this? because it's not mentioned 22:18 < jannis> infester: Why not do it yourself? 22:18 < infester> is it a public wiki? :O 22:19 < jannis> If you're registered, yes 22:19 < DerPapst> pm the maintainer of the installer. 22:19 < infester> i see, ill do it 22:19 < DerPapst> yes wiki is public 22:19 < jannis> and if it's bad what you did, it can always be undone 22:21 < DerPapst> hehe.. i'm the master of reverting.. as there were more bots spamming the wiki 22:23 < jannis> but we have the "type the numbers of the image"-thing now right? 22:24 < DerPapst> yes.. but there are still some bots that are able to register. they spam mostly talk:main_page 22:27 -!- Evaso2 [n=Marem@host66-218-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 < infester> http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Mac_%28unsupported_iPods%29#Important looking good? 22:29 < DerPapst> yes 22:31 -!- idh [n=idh@c-8530e253.1130-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 22:33 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 22:42 < jannis> DerPapst: das mit dem assembler-code wird härter, als ich gedacht hatte, weil der für nen anderen assembler geschrieben wurde 22:42 < jannis> Der GNU-as kann den gar nich lesen 22:43 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@194.97.163.238] has quit [] 22:46 < jannis> Gute Nachricht: ich hab' ein Programm, das mir den code wohl liest. Schlechte Nachtricht: Das is für wind00f 22:46 < BleuLlama> please, keep it english in here 22:46 < jannis> yea sorry 22:46 < BleuLlama> if you want to discuss this in german, go to #ipodlinux.de ie 22:46 < jannis> ok 22:48 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:48 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 < DerPapst> BleuLlama: sorry. do you have knowledge about assembler programing for the iPod? 22:54 < BleuLlama> not me, nope 22:55 < DerPapst> it's about an itegerbased mp3 encoder. but it's in asm. 22:55 < infester> which launcher should i use on a mac formated ipod? 22:57 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host81-143.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:58 < DerPapst> hmm.. good question. BleuLlauncher doesn't work on 5G iPods, cLauncher is for winpods.... ilaunch or iPlay. 22:58 < DerPapst> or use Loader2Args 22:58 < BleuLlama> yep. bleullauncher is based on pz0 which does not work on 5g 22:59 < DerPapst> but i guess ilaunch and iPlay are for winpods either 23:01 < DerPapst> do it with getLaoder2Args http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 23:01 < DerPapst> or try this module: http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/extlaunch 23:04 < infester> i installed ilaunch but the screen just turns black when it starts, is that an issue with hotdog? 23:05 < DerPapst> maybe the graphics aren't in the right place 23:05 < infester> k, ill try the getLoader2Args thing, thanks 23:06 < jannis> Made a little step forward on my assembler-nightmare 23:07 < jannis> but just a little one ... 23:07 < DerPapst> sonds good :) 23:08 < infester> $ dd if=/dev/disk1s3 skip=63 count=30000 of=orig_firmware.bin 23:08 < infester> dd: /dev/disk1s3: Resource busy 23:08 < infester> hum? 23:09 < DerPapst> you have to umount it first. BUT you have already a loader installed 23:09 < DerPapst> so it is already a modified firmware 23:10 < infester> k 23:10 < DerPapst> umount /dev/disk1 should do it. don't know 23:11 < infester> dd: /dev/disk1s3: No such file or directory 23:12 < DerPapst> search for "ipod_os_partition_backup" in the folder ipl_install/files folder 23:12 < DerPapst> this is your unmodified version of your firmware 23:12 < infester> k 23:13 < DerPapst> you could also restore your ipod, add the sysinfo file and replace ipl_install/file/loader.bin with loader 2 23:21 < DerPapst> time to go to bed :) gn8 everybody 23:22 < infester> ic 23:22 < infester> should i change my rc file now? 23:22 < jannis> WWHHEEEEHAAAAAAAA:.............. 23:23 < jannis> I got the ARMASM compiled 23:23 < DerPapst> w00t 23:23 < jannis> now only some math-functions have to be "ported" 23:23 < jannis> then it gets really interesting 23:23 < jannis> the bad thing: my girlfriend has my iPod right now 23:23 < DerPapst> hehe ^^ 23:24 < jannis> so I can't test anything 'till later this day 23:24 < infester> crap, now i cant boot linux when starting the ipod :( 23:24 < jannis> (well, her PC is bricked ATM so I gave her my iPod so she has music) 23:24 < jannis> DerPapst: Wanna test the binary then? 23:25 < jannis> (If I get it running soon, dunno) 23:25 < DerPapst> yeah. why not 23:25 < DerPapst> you can send it to papst_XI@gmx.de 23:26 < DerPapst> infester: if you install it new with the script make sure to use a more up to date userland. 23:26 < DerPapst> get this one: http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/ipl/ipod_fs_220606.tar.gz 23:29 < infester> DerPapst: userland? :s 23:30 < jannis> Is there a lookup-table for functions like sqrt(), log() in pz2 or ttk? 23:30 < infester> DerPapst: the ipod boots the apple os when pressing rew at startup 23:31 < DerPapst> infester: thats loader 1 23:31 < infester> k 23:31 < DerPapst> but why is appleos not default? 23:31 < infester> how do i acces the "2nd" and "3rd" partition then? the guide says i need to put a kernel image over there 23:32 < infester> i guess it is default, its like the linux os is out from the bootlist :/ 23:32 < jannis> infester: The partition, where the musicis 23:32 < infester> how can i accesss it from my mac? :S 23:32 < DerPapst> if you have a macpod you have only 2 partitins 23:33 < DerPapst> btw: this installerscrit is extremly old 23:33 < infester> installerscript? 23:33 < DerPapst> yes. the one you have used to install iPL 23:34 < infester> oh 23:34 < infester> ok 23:35 < infester> DerPapst: but i should be able booting up linux with your userland, correct? 23:35 < DerPapst> the userlad is very old... and if you wan't to install loader2 you don't need to add the kernel into the my_sw.bin image 23:36 * MarcoPolo is away: emerge: (1 of 18) www-client/seamonkey-1.0.5 Compile - Shell No. 2 - Konsole 23:36 < infester> oh, but i need to reinstall loader2 using the userland? 23:36 -!- MarcoPolo is now known as MarcoPolo|AFK 23:36 < DerPapst> as i said.. i don't have a mac so i don't know how to open the tar.bz2 file. but yes. it should work 23:36 < infester> thats cool, i got it opened 23:36 < infester> thanks 23:36 * MarcoPolo|AFK is away: test 23:37 * MarcoPolo|AFK is back. 23:37 -!- MarcoPolo|AFK is now known as MarcoPolo 23:37 < infester> crap :( still cant boot anything else than the appleos :( 23:38 < DerPapst> have you tried to install loader2 already 23:38 < DerPapst> ? 23:38 < infester> after using the new userland? 23:39 < DerPapst> shouldn't matter whether you have installed it before or after. 23:39 < infester> yea, i have 23:39 < infester> i did before 23:39 < DerPapst> and do you have a menu after rebooting the ipod? 23:40 < infester> no 23:40 < infester> only the apple logo 23:40 < DerPapst> looks like this: http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Loader2-5g.JPG 23:40 < infester> thats a negative :( 23:40 < DerPapst> then something went wrong. 23:40 < infester> im trying to reinstall it 23:41 < DerPapst> cd to ipl_install/files 23:41 < infester> yea 23:41 < DerPapst> download loader 2 23:42 < DerPapst> http://ipodlinux.org/images/e/ef/Loader-2.4.zip 23:42 < DerPapst> extract 23:42 < DerPapst> copy the loader.bin file in there to ipl_install/files 23:43 < DerPapst> in ipl_install/files there should be 2 files: apple_os.bin and apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin 23:43 < DerPapst> crrect? 23:43 < DerPapst> *correct 23:44 < infester> yes 23:45 < DerPapst> do you have replaced the loader.bin already? should be now 50kb big 23:45 < infester> yep 23:45 < DerPapst> ok. 23:45 < DerPapst> in your terminal enter: 23:45 < DerPapst> ./make_fw -g video -v -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin loader.bin 23:46 -!- jintxo [n=jintxo@166.Red-81-36-230.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:46 < DerPapst> done? 23:47 < infester> yes 23:47 < DerPapst> attach your iPod to your mac 23:47 < DerPapst> where is it mounted? 23:48 < infester> /Volumes/ipod 23:48 < DerPapst> /dev/disk? 23:48 < infester> ah sec 23:48 < infester> /dev/disk1s3 23:48 < DerPapst> k 23:49 < DerPapst> in your terminal enter: 23:49 < DerPapst> diskutil unmount /dev/disk1s3 23:49 < infester> k 23:50 < DerPapst> and now: 23:50 < DerPapst> dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/diskX seek=63 23:50 < DerPapst> wait 23:50 < DerPapst> d if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/disk1 seek=63 23:50 < DerPapst> meh... 23:50 < DerPapst> it is dd. not d 23:50 < infester> yea 23:50 < DerPapst> dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/disk1 seek=63 23:50 < DerPapst> done? 23:50 < infester> sec 23:51 < infester> its loading ^^ 23:51 < infester> ok done 23:51 < DerPapst> download http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2006-10-08-kernel.bin.gz 23:52 < DerPapst> extract 23:52 < infester> yea 23:52 < DerPapst> rename the file in there to linux.bin or kernel.bin 23:53 < DerPapst> doesn't matter 23:53 < infester> mm 23:54 < DerPapst> done? 23:54 < jannis> fixed-point-arithmetic makes my head explode 23:54 < jannis> I think I should stick with lame...... 23:54 < infester> yea im done 23:54 < DerPapst> i don't even know what you're talking about ^^ 23:55 < DerPapst> fine. copy it to the root of your iPod 23:55 < infester> m 23:55 < infester> done 23:56 < DerPapst> eject your iPod reboot. and hopefully everything works. 23:56 < infester> it doesnt :( 23:56 < infester> i should still press rew at startup, right? 23:56 < DerPapst> what happend? 23:56 < DerPapst> no 23:56 < infester> k 23:57 < DerPapst> after rebooting you should get the menu 23:57 < infester> i dont, i just get the apple symbol, as it was when i first got it, before installing linux on it 23:57 < DerPapst> hmm.. then nothing? 23:58 < infester> then apple os 23:58 < infester> no menus 23:58 < DerPapst> even more strage 23:59 < DerPapst> have you ever been able to run linux? 23:59 < infester> yes, i was before i installed loader2 --- Log closed Mon Oct 09 00:00:01 2006