--- Log opened Sat Oct 07 00:00:04 2006 00:01 < kick52> found the ipodloader source: http://ipodlinux.cvs.sourceforge.net/ipodlinux/tools/ipodloader/ 00:03 < kick52> the code is in here; http://ipodlinux.cvs.sourceforge.net/ipodlinux/tools/ipodloader/loader.c?revision=1.8&view=markup but its all in machine code 00:03 < kick52> let me try an if which deals with nothing 00:05 < kick52> oh what? the compiler doesnt allow me to have if (keyfinder == '') 00:05 < kick52> that '' is 2 single quotes btw 00:06 -!- [1]CottonBalls [n=CottonBa@64.238.104.67] has joined #ipodlinux 00:07 < calamari> yeah 00:07 < calamari> that's not a valid character 00:07 < kick52> damn. so i cant have something that says "if that is nothing, then do this". bum. 00:07 < BleuLlama> if it's nothing, it'll just block, won't it? 00:08 < kick52> no, theres a compiler error 00:08 < BleuLlama> no; i mean, the function you're calling just won't return. it will block 00:08 < calamari> BleuLlama: yep 00:08 < calamari> BleuLlama: I told him about select/poll already hehe 00:09 < BleuLlama> there you go then. 00:09 * BleuLlama afk 00:10 < calamari> kick52: 0.0.6 is up.. all functions are now documented 00:10 < kick52> cool 00:10 < kick52> cant find much bout select or poll using google. 00:11 < calamari> kick52: man 3 select, man 3 poll 00:11 < calamari> or are you running windows 00:11 < kick52> mac os x 10.4.8 00:12 < calamari> oh yeah :) 00:12 < calamari> maybe mac has man pages too 00:12 < calamari> I have no idea.. heh 00:12 < kick52> it does. but the ones you just gave me dont work 00:12 < calamari> ok 00:13 < calamari> kick52: google for man select(3) 00:13 < calamari> bbl.. my wife's turn for the computer :) 00:13 < calamari> have fun 00:14 < kick52> ok bye 00:14 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:24 -!- CottonBalls [n=CottonBa@64.238.104.67] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:26 < BleuLlama> try chapter 2 instead of 3. 00:26 < BleuLlama> those should be in there 00:27 < kick52> no, ive found them, but they are going to take hours to read and they are to comlicated. 00:28 -!- [1]CottonBalls [n=CottonBa@64.238.104.67] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:30 < BleuLlama> probably not a great place to start if this is your first C project 00:31 < BleuLlama> also, behaviors of those might be different on OS X than on your ipod 00:32 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-5441d55f.lns3-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 00:37 < NsN> Ok, i've compiled Hotdog with "-DDONT_RUN_FROM_IRAM" but something somehow still changes the upper half of the screen sometimes... 00:39 < NsN> And i'm pretty sure that it has something ro do with the audio data, since it only happens after i output audio... 00:39 -!- erus` [n=Tom@AC8F661B.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:23 -!- NsN [i=Gaspode@wh282.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [] 03:21 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:21 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 04:09 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:11 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 04:45 -!- DevHace [n=chatzill@adsl-68-75-36-110.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:45 < DevHace> Howdy y'all! 04:52 < DevHace> Iz it too late? 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07:20 -!- kick52 [n=Tim@user-514fe81e.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 07:20 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-69-124.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:20 < kick52> anyone on? 07:21 < Munksgaard> seems not 07:24 < cdm> nah 07:24 < cdm> who needs it anyways? 07:34 < Munksgaard> right 07:34 < Munksgaard> i need it 07:34 < Munksgaard> :-S 07:35 < kick52> you need what now? 07:35 < Munksgaard> i cant see my music on my ipod (when booting in linux) 07:35 < kick52> what zilla are you using? 07:36 < Munksgaard> then i tried to uninstall/reinstall mdp(c), now i cant even get to zilla, it is stuck at "loading modules" or something 07:36 < Munksgaard> the default 07:36 < Munksgaard> i guess 07:37 < Munksgaard> podzilla2 07:37 < Munksgaard> if thats what you mean 07:38 < Munksgaard> now i get an error while extracting mpd 07:38 < Munksgaard> (installing) 07:38 < kick52> well MPD is very buggy, and even when i installed it correctly, it would play at half the speed and skip. just use another zilla (try floydzilla) 07:39 < kick52> calamari: i dont know if your on, but i have sovled the problem 07:39 < Munksgaard> i try that, hold on a minute 07:40 < Munksgaard> I cant see it in the ipodlinux installer 07:40 < Munksgaard> do i have to go somewhere else to find it? 08:03 < Munksgaard> does it make a difference that it is a ipod color? 08:09 < Munksgaard> now it wont even install :(, i get this error extracting 08:16 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:20 < Munksgaard> gotta try reinstalling the firmware i guess 08:26 -!- Munksgaard [n=Tizian@0x503e1e2e.virnxx8.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 08:27 -!- Jonbo [n=Jonbo123@adsl-074-229-245-180.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:29 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:30 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-69-124.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 08:31 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:40 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:42 -!- Tian [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:46 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:15 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:17 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:23 -!- z3ro [n=z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.113] has joined #iPodLinux 09:28 < kick52> anyone on here? 09:30 < BHSPitLappy> nooo 09:31 < kick52> why say that? 09:31 < kick52> is the dev channel down? 09:35 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:41 -!- erus` [n=Tom@AC8F661B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:44 -!- z3ro [n=z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 10:10 -!- Jonbo [n=Jonbo123@adsl-074-229-245-180.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:29 -!- misfit [i=vilxu@84-50-174-14-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has joined #ipodlinux 10:30 < misfit> Hey, i get this error, Invalid Sysinfo file blablabal, i just update my firmware to 1.2, i think that i have tried anything, any ideas? 10:31 < kick52> try downgarding 10:31 < misfit> With another updater? 10:32 < misfit> I looked at the sysinfo file, it was empty.. 10:36 -!- himitsu_ [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has joined #iPodLinux 10:38 < misfit> Okay, i think that i have found answer to my question.. http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17911&highlight=invalid+sysinfo 10:38 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [] 10:39 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:39 -!- misfit [i=vilxu@84-50-174-14-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has quit ["uuu.. what does this button do?"] 10:53 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.185.113] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:30 -!- Xeijin [n=hassan_d@cpc1-walt1-0-0-cust241.popl.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:32 < Xeijin> can anyone tell me why my rc file looks so different than in the tutorials? 11:32 -!- erus` [n=Tom@AC8F661B.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:32 < Xeijin> mine dosen't end with 'podzilla' it ends with 'exec podzilla' then 'fi' 11:37 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:38 < Xeijin> anyone? 11:40 -!- Xeijin [n=hassan_d@cpc1-walt1-0-0-cust241.popl.cable.ntl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 11:41 < kick52> has calamari been on? 11:44 < xevix> !seen calamari 11:44 < kick52> you what? 11:44 < kick52> !seen calamari 11:44 < xevix> was worth a shot =p 11:44 < kick52> - what does that do? 11:44 < xevix> well either that or some variants to call up someone's script 11:44 < xevix> ;seen calamari 11:44 < xevix> nope 11:46 < kick52> sorry, was wondering what ctcp was, and if it worked 11:50 < kick52> what is Ctcp? 11:54 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:54 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 11:59 -!- SereRokR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:59 -!- SereRokR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 12:03 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:10 -!- [Sur`DataGhost] [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:10 -!- DataGhost is now known as [Sur`DataGhost] 12:12 -!- perpleXa [n=perpleXa@unaffiliated/perplexa] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:12 -!- perpleXa [n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa] has joined #ipodlinux 12:43 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:02 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:02 < canuckid> hello 13:02 < kick52> hi canuckid 13:02 < canuckid> hey 13:02 < kick52> whatup? 13:02 < canuckid> help 13:02 < canuckid> nothin 13:03 < kick52> having a lavy day in? 13:03 < kick52> *lazy 13:06 < kick52> im having a coding weekend but im really annoyed that i cant detect what keys are being pressed. 13:08 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 13:08 * kick52 bangs head against wall 13:14 -!- perpleXa [n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:22 -!- Kingstone [i=GPool@87.69.67.194] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 < Kingstone> fxb here? 13:23 < Kingstone> anyone knows how the checksum works? 13:23 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:25 < Kingstone> the new firmware checksum 13:29 < kick52> no, they are working on it 13:30 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:31 -!- iplbot [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:31 < kick52> bye 13:31 -!- iplbot [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:32 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:34 < Kingstone> kick52, wait 13:34 < Kingstone> do you know what i'm talking about? 13:34 < Kingstone> i'm a developer too 13:34 < Kingstone> i mean the .ipsw.signature file 13:34 < Kingstone> not the encryption 13:59 -!- Kingstone [i=GPool@87.69.67.194] has quit [] 13:59 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:34 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:43 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@mindless.tky.hut.fi] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 14:43 -!- dark [n=dark@microsoft.gotrooted.com] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 14:43 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 14:45 -!- dark [n=dark@microsoft.gotrooted.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:45 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 14:45 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@mindless.tky.hut.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 14:57 < BleuLlama> for those of you learning how to code, you might want to look through this website: http://www.freetechbooks.com/ 15:00 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:00 < BleuLlama> http://www.giuciao.com/ this too 15:02 -!- polok_ is now known as polok 15:08 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@mindless.tky.hut.fi] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:08 -!- dark [n=dark@microsoft.gotrooted.com] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:08 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:10 -!- dark [n=dark@microsoft.gotrooted.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:10 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 15:10 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@mindless.tky.hut.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 15:16 -!- rconan [n=richard@82-45-37-17.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 15:16 < canuckid> sweet, thx bleullama 15:16 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@mindless.tky.hut.fi] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:16 -!- dark [n=dark@microsoft.gotrooted.com] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:16 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:17 -!- dark [n=dark@microsoft.gotrooted.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 -!- Paltsu [n=Hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 -!- Juippi [n=juoheikk@mindless.tky.hut.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 15:42 -!- [Sur`DataGhost] is now known as DataGhost 15:48 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@67.64.117.17] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:04 -!- rconan [n=richard@82-45-37-17.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 16:06 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:06 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 16:19 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:22 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-69-124.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:22 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host224-200.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 16:38 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:31 -!- JackyD [i=D@69.177.210.72] has quit [] 17:37 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@pool-68-237-104-67.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:43 -!- perpleXa [n=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa] has joined #ipodlinux 17:47 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@pool-68-237-104-67.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:48 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:54 -!- canuckbot [n=irc@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:05 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@cop60-1-82-240-26-92.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:10 < kick52> has anyone seen calamari? 18:11 < canuckid> nope 18:12 < canuckid> and i've left my irc client open for about 5 hours now so I would know lol 18:12 -!- canuckid is now known as cmelbye 18:12 < kick52> i've left mine open for 10hours, but im just checking. 18:13 -!- cmelbye is now known as canuckid 18:14 < kick52> canuckid: im working on a *zilla loader. what interface do you think i should use? 1. hold down buttons 2. select choice (not a menu) 3. a menu 18:14 < canuckid> hmm 18:14 < canuckid> well I like how clauncher is with a list of choices and you press the button of which one you want 18:15 < kick52> i wanted to use an interface which would detect if you were holding down a button (like loader1), but i couldnt find the code. 18:15 < canuckid> oh 18:15 < canuckid> loader1 code is in cvs 18:15 < kick52> you see, i could make it non-blocking, but if you started to hold down the button before the getchar() happened, it wouldnt work 18:16 < kick52> i know, but that is quite compilcated and uses binary code for different ipods. and it is only to open podzillae. 18:17 < kick52> alot of people were annoyed about not being able to load doom and videos not working, nd this is super simple so they should work 18:19 < canuckid> shit 18:19 < canuckid> my hard drive is completely full 18:20 < canuckid> but i like how clauncher has the menu cause it's not all that complex with config files and multiple source files, just one file. http://ipodlinux.org/Clauncher 18:27 < kick52> so, menu? but isnt clauncher meant to be used for apps rather than podzillae? 18:29 < kick52> i could make something like that. but not sure about the power settings. but im not copying it. im going to have a choice, and you press rew and forwards to change the choice. 18:29 < kick52> oh wait, i could do poweroff stuff 18:38 < BleuLlama> podzillae are apps 18:38 < kick52> you know what i mean 18:38 < BleuLlama> not really 18:40 < canuckid> I agree with BleuLlama 18:41 < canuckid> Clauncher can launch podzillae perfectly fine 18:42 < kick52> i thought it was an add on to podzilla2 (d'oh!) 18:44 < canuckid> oh, no it's an external binary 18:45 < kick52> just looking at the source of clauncher, it uses like 20librarys. 18:47 < kick52> is there a C function when i can redraw only 1 line of text? 18:48 < kick52> is there a C library for ipod that can change the console font? 18:49 < BleuLlama> 20 libraries? huh? it looks about as simple as you can get 18:50 < BleuLlama> for redrawing 1 line, i think someone ported libcurses, maybe. 18:50 < BleuLlama> and for console font; rebuild the kernel 18:50 < kick52> yes, thats calamari. im working with him on this project. and rebuild the kernel? sod it. 18:51 < BleuLlama> Clauncher looks to be about as simple as it can get for that kind of app 18:51 < canuckid> yea 18:52 < canuckid> and it uses 12 libraries on the desktop and 13 libraries on the ipod lol 18:52 < canuckid> not 20 18:52 < kick52> clauncher has: 12 librarys. im wrinting mine with about 5. and i said "like 20 librarys" 18:52 < BleuLlama> it only uses stdlib. what are you talking about 18:52 < BleuLlama> you mean the .h files? 18:52 < canuckid> yea 18:52 < BleuLlama> what does the number of .h's have to do with anything? 18:53 < canuckid> nothing 18:53 < kick52> just sayin' 18:53 < canuckid> kick52 was the one who brought it up 18:53 < BleuLlama> i know. 18:53 < canuckid> oh I thought u were talking to me 18:53 < kick52> i was just saying that it used a lot. 18:53 < canuckid> umm... yea. 18:53 -!- Ranix [n=Ranix@c-24-125-45-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 18:54 < BleuLlama> i still don't see how that's a gauge of anything. 18:54 < canuckid> y halo thar 18:54 < canuckid> same 18:54 < Ranix> halo canuckid 18:54 < BleuLlama> if anything, it's good that the author is using existing system libraries than rewriting them 18:54 < canuckid> yea 18:54 < BleuLlama> BHSP. 18:54 < kick52> aghrr! can we drop the subject?!?! i was just saying!!! 18:55 < kick52> (no offense implied) 18:55 < canuckid> conorkirk wanted to rewrite stdio.h so he could use variables in the system(); function 18:55 < canuckid> we ended up using sprintf(); instead lol 18:56 < kick52> sprintf()? 18:56 < canuckid> yup 18:56 < kick52> got it 18:57 < kick52> i dont see how that can help.... 18:57 < canuckid> i was saying how conorkirk used it 18:57 < canuckid> I never implied that it would help you 18:57 -!- canuckid is now known as cmelbye 18:57 < kick52> no, i meant it help with system() calls 18:57 < cmelbye> oh 18:58 < kick52> i wait, i get it. 18:58 < cmelbye> yea 18:58 < BleuLlama> Ranix: please read the topic. 18:58 < cmelbye> cause of the framerate and stuff that had to be in the mencoder command 18:59 < Ranix> BleuLlama: what? 18:59 < kick52> couldnt you just use char thingy; thingy = "text %c", alreadydefinedcharhere 18:59 < cmelbye> i dunno 18:59 < kick52> or am i thinking like BASIC? 19:00 < cmelbye> sprintf() is easier i think 19:01 < BleuLlama> Ranix: "Please ask before PMing" need help reading? 19:01 < Ranix> ask what? 19:02 < Ranix> help? 19:02 < BleuLlama> stop playing dumb. 19:02 < Ranix> ok 19:02 < BleuLlama> you pm'ed me without asking. 19:02 < BleuLlama> it's not rocket science. 19:02 -!- canuckbot [n=irc@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:03 < Ranix> ok 19:03 < Ranix> my iPod is bricked. one one exclamation mark zomg 19:03 < Ranix> help plz? 19:03 < Ranix> there 19:03 -!- canuckbot [n=irc@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:04 < kick52> cmelbye/canuckid: is canuckbot your bot (obviously)? what does it do? 19:04 < Ranix> who should I PM if my iPod is bricked? 19:04 -!- cmelbye is now known as canuckid 19:05 < canuckid> `canuckid 19:05 < canuckid> `canuckid 19:05 < canuckid> shoot 19:05 < canuckid> hmm 19:05 < BleuLlama> Ranix: stop playing dumb. you know what it means; Ask a person before private messaging them. otherwise it's considered to be rude. 19:05 < Ranix> great 19:05 < Ranix> now can you please answer me by telling me who to ask if my iPod is bricked? 19:06 < BleuLlama> you ask in channel. 19:06 < Ranix> ok 19:06 < BleuLlama> more to the point; if that really is your problem read the wiki. 19:06 < kick52> 1. your HD might be broken 2. you may have corrupted your HD. 3. you may have corrupted your firmware. 4. you may have damaged it someway 19:07 < Ranix> I damaged it someway 19:07 < kick52> how? 19:07 < Ranix> you know how a xbox 360 can play your iPod music? 19:07 < Ranix> and you plug it in to the usb port? 19:08 < kick52> OMFG!!!!!! WOW!!!!1!!111!!one!!. how did you damage it? 19:08 < Ranix> well 19:08 < Ranix> I shoved the whole iPod into the hole 19:08 < canuckid> lol 19:08 < kick52> the whole? you were masturbating? 19:08 < BleuLlama> Ranix: this is your last (and only warning) stop trolling. 19:09 < kick52> lol 19:09 < Ranix> kick52: that is inaproperate 19:09 < canuckid> Ranix: Bleullama is an op 19:09 < kick52> sorry. i apologize. 19:09 < canuckid> lol 19:09 < kick52> what hole? 19:09 < canuckid> the usb port 19:09 < Ranix> the usb ports 19:09 < Ranix> I can read the wiki 19:09 < canuckid> on the xbox 360 19:09 < Ranix> but I suppose it doesnt say anything about that 19:09 < Ranix> anyway 19:09 < Ranix> the iPod has the unhappy face and the exclamation point 19:10 < canuckid> ranix was searching the wiki and forums for hours and he still couldn't find the solution 19:10 < canuckid> he even tried google 19:10 < Ranix> are you like a stalker or something how did you know? 19:10 < kick52> refer to my post above about possible causes 19:10 < canuckid> I'm hacking into your network atm and watching your internet habits ranix 19:10 < kick52> put it into disk mode, and try to restore 19:11 < canuckid> don't tell my mom plz 19:11 < Ranix> cool ok 19:11 < Ranix> ok I'm doing that now 19:11 < canuckid> she'll be mad if she finds out that i'm a lunix hacker 19:11 < kick52> canuckid: hahaha. lol 19:11 < Ranix> but I use windows 19:11 < Ranix> its the most secure 19:11 < canuckid> but your internet router uses lunix 19:11 < BleuLlama> okay people. on topic. 19:12 < kick52> hahaha.. yer right... with 500, 000, (or something like that) viruses? 19:12 < canuckid> he was kidding fuck face 19:12 < BleuLlama> kick52: ignore him. he's a troll 19:12 < Ranix> no, I'm seriously restoring now 19:13 < Ranix> should it be better if I just went to a apple store and switched one? or would they not accept it? 19:13 < kick52> canuckid: was that f--ckface insult directed at me? i seriously thought he was a noob and was thinking windows was secure. 19:13 < canuckid> lol 19:13 < canuckid> ur the n00b 19:13 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=canuck@*.client.mchsi.com ] by BleuLlama 19:13 -!- canuckid was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [bye] 19:14 < Ranix> ok fixed it 19:14 < Ranix> thx kick52 19:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=canuck@*.client.mchsi.com ] by BleuLlama 19:15 -!- himitsu_ [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:15 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 < canuckid> lol 19:17 < kick52> ranix: noww try installing ipl again. 19:17 < Ranix> oh woops 19:17 < canuckid> HE WAS KIDDING YOU RETARD 19:17 < Ranix> I restored with the new itunes 19:17 < BleuLlama> canuckid: was the temporary ban not enough for you? 19:17 < Ranix> do I need to down grade with iPodWizard? 19:18 < Ranix> or is there a eaiser way to downgrade? 19:18 < canuckid> `canuckid 19:18 < canuckid> shoot 19:18 < kick52> ranix: i dont know. you can just download an older apple updater and use the restore function 19:18 < Ranix> true 19:18 < Ranix> yea, just format agian and retore with old updater 19:19 < Ranix> ok thanks, that worked, I'm putting iPL on now 19:19 < kick52> great 19:20 -!- canuckbot [n=irc@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:21 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has joined #iPodLinux 19:21 -!- canuckbot [n=canuckbo@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:21 -!- canuckbot [n=canuckbo@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:22 -!- canuckbot [n=canuckbo@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 < kick52> what is canuckids bot for? 19:22 < canuckid> `foo is bar 19:22 < canuckid> `foo is bar 19:22 < canuckid> `foo 19:22 < canuckbot> foo is bar [from canuckid] 19:22 < canuckid> yay 19:22 < canuckid> `forget foo 19:23 < Ranix> I'm sorry, but I can't see how this relates to porting Linux onto your iPod 19:23 < canuckid> `canuckid is your daddy \ bow down to him you mortal fool 19:23 < canuckid> lol 19:23 < canuckid> `canuckid 19:23 < canuckbot> canuckid is your daddy 19:23 < canuckbot> bow down to him you mortal fool [from canuckid] 19:23 < kick52> he is testing his bot. 19:24 < kick52> i wonder if... 19:24 < canuckid> don't get any ideas smartass lol 19:24 < kick52> `canuckid bla bla 19:24 < canuckid> `canuckid bla bla 19:24 < canuckbot> canuckid is your daddy 19:24 < canuckbot> bow down to him you mortal fool [from canuckid] 19:24 < canuckbot> I assume you meant canuckid. 19:24 < canuckid> yup i did mean to type canuckid 19:25 < canuckid> :) 19:25 < kick52> nice. 19:25 < canuckid> btw, you can make a factoid but only if it is your nickname 19:25 < canuckid> so you can make a kick52 factoid 19:26 < canuckid> `kick52 is making a new loader 19:26 < canuckid> `jkick52 19:26 < canuckid> yikes 19:26 < canuckid> `kick52 19:26 < canuckbot> kick52 is making a new loader [from canuckid] 19:27 < kick52> cool. 19:27 -!- himitsu_ [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has joined #iPodLinux 19:27 < canuckid> `Ranix is an owl master 19:28 < Ranix> `Ranix 19:28 < Ranix> :-( 19:28 < canuckid> what? 19:28 < canuckid> `Ranix 19:28 < canuckbot> Ranix is an owl master [from canuckid] 19:28 < canuckid> works fine for me :/ 19:28 < Ranix> collio 19:29 < Ranix> it even sends me a PM 19:29 < canuckid> yea 19:29 < canuckid> `join #orly 19:30 -!- canuckid is now known as canuckid_ 19:30 -!- canuckid_ is now known as canuckid 19:33 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o josh ] by ChanServ 19:33 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*=canuckbo@*.client.mchsi.com ] by josh 19:33 -!- canuckbot was kicked from #ipodlinux by josh [josh] 19:34 < kick52> how does the ChanServ work out who should be op? 19:34 < josh> We tell it. 19:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o josh ] by josh 19:35 < kick52> oh.... but you cant vote for yourself i suppose. (just wondering.) 19:36 < josh> Luke, davidc, and leachbj are the only ones with the authority to appoint new ops. 19:36 < josh> /msg chanserv help 19:36 < josh> /msg chanserv help access 19:36 < josh> /msg chanserv help level 19:36 < josh> /msg chanserv access #ipodlinux list 19:36 < josh> /msg chanserv level #ipodlinux list 19:36 < josh> clear? 19:37 < Ranix> RODGR THAT SIR 19:37 < josh> Oh, shut up, Ranix. 19:37 < Ranix> ha, I only spoke once 19:38 < Ranix> btw thx again kick52 19:38 < Ranix> for the help 19:40 < canuckid> lol 19:42 -!- haxxorzbot [n=yourmom@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 < Ranix> wtf? I just thought you were banned 19:42 < Ranix> oh 19:42 < Ranix> it was your bot 19:42 < canuckid> yea 19:43 < canuckid> `say hax 19:43 < haxxorzbot> hax 19:43 < canuckid> shoot 19:43 < canuckid> yay 19:43 < kick52> ranix: no problem, and good luck 19:44 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:45 < kick52> guys, in my loader, what option shall i put in? currently i have: Podzilla 2, Floydzilla, Podzilla. should i put in iDoom? 19:45 < canuckid> go for it 19:45 < kick52> great. 19:46 < Ranix> make sure you have iBoy 19:46 < Ranix> just cause 19:46 < kick52> ok. 19:46 < canuckid> so I guess you can't use the loader1 selection method now 19:47 -!- Ranix [n=Ranix@c-24-125-45-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:47 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@67.64.117.17] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 < canuckid> kick52: the creator of clauncher just signed on 19:48 < kick52> no. i am using a selection thing. i cant get the right functions for it because, when you press a key, and hold it, it only registers in the console once, not like a PC: so it wont work without going quite complex... and this is my first C program 19:49 < kick52> BHSPitLappy: hi. im making a simple loader. i hope you dont mind. 19:50 < kick52> BHSPitLappy: its a bit like yours but it uses different selection method and different options. 19:58 -!- Stern [n=Stern@ool-44c51b38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 < kick52> hey stern 20:00 < Stern> hey kick52 20:04 < kick52> yay! Loadzilla 50% working. i now need to make it load 20:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o josh ] by ChanServ 20:06 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=yourmom@*.client.mchsi.com ] by josh 20:06 -!- haxxorzbot was kicked from #ipodlinux by josh [josh] 20:06 < josh> canuckid: If you persist, I'll have to make a larger ban - which will include you, too. So stop it. 20:07 < kick52> Da, Da DAA!!! (Dramatic chords) 20:08 -!- Stern [n=Stern@ool-44c51b38.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:08 < canuckid> lol 20:09 < kick52> guys, do you think i should add a function to my loader that detects if hold is held down and if it is it loads podzilla 2 (deafult)? 20:10 < kick52> actually, i cant do that 20:13 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:13 < kick52> hi calamari!!! 20:13 < calamari> hi kick52 20:14 < kick52> i have found out, that even if getchar() is nonblocking, it cant detect if a key has been pushed & held down before getchar() is executed. 20:15 < kick52> but i am now using a choice selection thing for the loader. about 55% done 20:16 < kick52> calamari: hows icurses going? 20:16 < calamari> kick52: haven't messed with it.. went to the lan party 20:16 < kick52> oh yer. how was that? 20:17 < kick52> what game(s) did you play? 20:17 < calamari> none.. lol 20:17 < canuckid> O.o 20:17 < calamari> some other guys played a star trek game 20:17 < calamari> for windows... 20:18 < calamari> there do not seem to be any fps games that 1) work well on both windows and linux 2) work well on older computers 20:18 < canuckid> why go to lan parties then? lo 20:18 < canuckid> l 20:18 < calamari> canuckid: huh? 20:18 < calamari> we tried a bunch of games 20:19 < calamari> bzflag crashes on windows, netpanzer worked, but it isn't exactly action packed 20:19 < calamari> sauerbraten works great on linux but the windows guys again had troubles 20:19 < kick52> wait, are you using linux or windows or both? 20:20 < calamari> I'm using linux, everyone else was windows 20:20 < kick52> UT runs on linux & windows. 20:20 < calamari> I think next time I'll just install win98 and use that 20:20 < calamari> kick52: is that free? 20:20 < calamari> and would it work on a 450mhz computer? 20:20 < calamari> with lame graphics card? 20:20 < kick52> oh... i thought you were using windows.... UT? free? no, not legally 20:21 < calamari> anyhow.. sorry to be off topic :) 20:21 < calamari> let's look into select/poll. I worked with it once about a year ago 20:22 < kick52> it works ok on my PPC G4 400mhz, ATI Rage Pro 128, and on PCs it runs better (cus the mac os x ver. of UT was not properly ported.) 20:22 < calamari> neat.. maybe I can snag a bunch of copies off ebay 20:23 < kick52> or bittorrent, if you want to be illegal. not that im promoting it. i think it is evil 20:23 < calamari> nah.. my computer is legal and I want it to stay that way 20:23 < kick52> good for you & epicgames. 20:25 < kick52> as i said, im about 55% through the loadzilla. i just need to make it load the actual binarys... 20:26 < kick52> are you still working on icurses? 20:29 < kick52> calamari: did you get my email? 20:30 < calamari> let me chck 20:33 < calamari> yeah, cool pic :) 20:33 < kick52> great. and are you still working on icurses? 20:33 < calamari> now I know where they got the packground for iSilla :) 20:33 < calamari> Zilla 20:33 < calamari> yeah 20:34 < kick52> do you know if your gonna fix the keyboard_echo feature? its pretty cool 20:35 < kick52> ..and also, i'd be happy to help with any tests, or if you want me to make a wiki page or coding or whatever. 20:39 < kick52> calamari: ? 20:39 < calamari> kick52: what's up 20:40 < calamari> if you want to make a page on the ipodlinux wiki that'd be cool 20:40 < calamari> or on my wiki, doesn't matter 20:40 < kick52> oh, just wondering if you were still there and if you got my question and stuff up there ^ 20:41 < kick52> cool. i'd do that. :> maybe i could make 1 page and put it on both sites? 20:41 < calamari> nah only one site is needed really 20:41 < calamari> I'm not sure that echo is really necessary 20:41 < kick52> ok. but you could make a wiki page on your site linking to ipls wiki page. 20:42 < calamari> yeah 20:43 < kick52> um, should it be called iCurses, or Libicurses? its a port of curses to ipod right? (obviously) 20:46 < kick52> calamari: um, should it be called iCurses, or Libicurses? its a port of curses to ipod right? (obviously) (sorry to ask twice but, i dont get a reply when i post without your name; does your IRC client only alert you when it has your name in a post?) 20:46 < calamari> perhaps I should change the name, because it doesn't really have too much in common with curses 20:47 < calamari> any suggestions? 20:47 < kick52> i think the name is fine at the moment. 20:48 < calamari> libicurses is probably what it should be called 20:49 < calamari> but whatever 20:49 < calamari> it doesn't matter much :) 20:49 < kick52> i think iCurses would go better with the wiki header. 20:50 < kick52> um... sorry for being a noob, but.. how do i create a new page on the iPL wiki? 20:51 < calamari> are you logged in? 20:51 < kick52> yep 20:52 < calamari> easiest way is to first figure out where it would be linked from 20:52 < calamari> then edit that page and add a link to the new page 20:52 < kick52> dontworry, found it. 20:52 < calamari> then click the red link 20:52 -!- morbidi [n=morbidi@84.90.73.153] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea65a.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 -!- polok [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 < morbidi> Hello, I have an ipod mini 1G, and I read that it is unsupported but you have some screenshots with it, will the ipod mini 1G have a port ? 20:53 -!- summatusmentis [i=summatus@206-15-138-40.dialup.ziplink.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:54 < kick52> i'll put it in development. okay? 20:54 < calamari> sure 20:54 < kick52> and is the current version a beta or alpha? 20:54 < calamari> alpha 20:54 < calamari> because it doesn't work right yet 20:55 < kick52> damn. how do i create a link in a category? 20:55 < calamari> you don't 20:55 < calamari> you add the category to the page you are adding 20:55 < calamari> at the bottom usually 20:55 < calamari> edit another page that has categories listed for an example 20:57 < kick52> okay, im starting it. i'll say its a library for handling input, output and screen functions? 20:57 < calamari> sure 21:03 < kick52> calamari, what would you say the bold and underline things are? text modifications? 21:03 < calamari> I call them attributes 21:03 < calamari> but they don't work right now 21:04 < kick52> yer, i know, (not on the ipod anyway) but its a list for the future. so text attributes? 21:04 < kick52> long shot, but, do you think you will be adding different font sizes and other fonts? 21:06 < calamari> I am just using ANSI 21:06 < calamari> although ANSI defines things like that, they are rarely implemented 21:06 < kick52> okay. what other things are you planning on for the future? (i feel like a reporter) 21:07 < calamari> I started icurses because I needed a menu interface for my wikipedia ebook reader 21:07 < calamari> and I realized I could use it for my programming ide as well 21:07 -!- polok_ [n=polok@124-168-46-33.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:08 < calamari> so I don't really have any plans, unless something comes up based on those two apps 21:08 < calamari> or unless you need something 21:09 < kick52> cool. maybe i will add some features to it if i need them/learn cool stuff. 21:10 < calamari> sure 21:17 < kick52> ok, nearly done 21:18 < kick52> how do i add an external image? 21:19 < calamari> what does that mean 21:19 < kick52> add an image that is from your site. i think the ipl wiki wants it uploaded 21:20 < calamari> oh, it doesn't allow linking? 21:20 < calamari> the images, files, etc, are in http://kidsquid.com/files/ipod/ 21:21 < kick52> i know, but when i put the address in, it says missing image 21:22 < kick52> dont worry. i had to settle for a link. but i really want an image there. 21:25 -!- summatusmentis [i=summatus@206-15-138-40.dialup.ziplink.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:31 < kick52> okay, done. needs a bit more editing/tweaking but its just about done. need to add download bit. www.ipodlinux.org/icurses 21:31 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:31 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:34 < kick52> damn it, i wanted to change the title to iCurses, instead of Icurses, so i renamed it to something else and renamed it back, but the orig is still there. 21:35 < kick52> dont worry calamari, its fixed 21:36 < kick52> calamari: you still there? 21:36 < calamari> yep 21:36 < kick52> calamari: how do i move it into a category? 21:37 < calamari> I'll do it 21:37 < kick52> cool, thanks 21:38 < calamari> done 21:38 < kick52> great. how do you do it anyway? 21:39 < kick52> and i'll add the download section 21:39 < calamari> edit the page and look atthe bottom 21:39 < calamari> you'll see how I did it 21:40 < kick52> oh right! i thought you meant down the page, not in he text box. cool. 21:40 < kick52> do you like the page? anything i could improve on? 21:42 < calamari> yeah it's good, thanks! 21:45 < kick52> cool. added download link and warning: "Jeffry Johnston has no responsibility of any deaths, explosions or damge done to your computer. " 21:47 -!- Stern [n=Stern@ool-44c51b38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 < kick52> no, back to loadzilla 21:48 < kick52> *now, back to loadzilla 21:51 < kick52> calamari: what you doing now then? 21:51 < calamari> I was editing the wiki page as well.. hehe 21:51 < calamari> I erased that whole explosions thing, sorry :) 21:52 < calamari> it was amusing but not really necessary 21:52 < calamari> I shoudl add some file links to my wiki page 21:52 < kick52> oh ok. 21:53 < kick52> looks better. 21:56 < kick52> calamari, is there a way keep all of the text centered on the screen (like in demo1) just by printf()ing and not having to add code onto it each time? 21:57 < calamari> well, that depends 21:57 < calamari> I could wirte a function to do that 21:57 < calamari> however, it would probably be much more limited than the regular printf 21:58 < calamari> another option would be screen_center(int width) then it could automatically position the cursor where it should go 21:59 -!- canuckid [n=canuck@12-227-164-200.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Quit"] 21:59 < calamari> it all depends on whether you know how long the text is beforehand 22:01 < kick52> i see 22:02 < calamari> I could use snprintf 22:02 < calamari> and restrict text to a single line 22:03 < calamari> I'll try that :) 22:04 < kick52> cool. maybe i could write a function for my menu-type-thing for icurses 22:05 < kick52> i'll email you with my menu type thing wit the code and makefile and stuff, so you can build it for linux and try it out. 22:06 < Stern> what exactly is ncurses? 22:06 < Stern> lol 22:06 < Stern> always hear about it, never knew what it was 22:06 < calamari> ncurses != icurses 22:06 < Stern> well 22:06 < Stern> still 22:07 < calamari> but same idea.. text mode cursor function 22:07 < calamari> gives you windows, colors, reserve video, special input handling ,etc 22:07 < kick52> sent 22:07 < calamari> reserve -> reverse 22:08 < kick52> calamari: "ncurses != icurses" haha! 22:08 < Stern> calamari: ah! 22:08 < Stern> like links2 22:08 < calamari> links probably uses it, yeah.. pine, nano, maybe vi 22:08 < kick52> calamari: reverse video? you mean text?\ 22:08 < Stern> vi sure 22:08 < calamari> kick52: yeah 22:10 < kick52> you got my mail? 22:12 < kick52> calamari? 22:12 < calamari> hi, hold on 22:15 < calamari> ahh cool, does that nonblocking thing work for you? 22:15 < kick52> well, that program does nonblocking yes. 22:16 < calamari> cool, mind if I add that to icurses as keyboard_blocking() ? 22:16 < kick52> but, if there is nothing you need to press enter. but that doesnt effect this program. 22:16 < kick52> what thing? 22:16 < calamari> oh, you still have to press enter? 22:16 < calamari> hmm 22:16 < kick52> no 22:17 < kick52> i dont. what code do you want to add? 22:18 < kick52> i press the button and it works straight away, but what bit of code do you want to add? 22:18 < calamari> if you don't press a button what happens 22:18 < kick52> well, i dont know, as its on a while loop. i'll test it. 22:20 < kick52> i think it doesnt do anything 22:22 -!- Stern [n=Stern@ool-44c51b38.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:22 < calamari> ok 22:23 < calamari> what does this like do, then: fcntl(0, F_SETFL, O_NONBLOCK); 22:23 < calamari> like -> line 22:23 < kick52> right. i think (could be inaccurate) that it doesnt do anything, until a key is pressed. 22:24 < kick52> i tried this yesterday, but cant remember results. testing 22:26 < kick52> ok, that makes it nonblocking. even if no key is pressed. fcntl(0, F_SETFL, O_NONBLOCK); waits for no ke 22:26 < kick52> let me say that again 22:26 < kick52> ok, that makes it nonblocking. even if no key is pressed. fcntl(0, F_SETFL, O_NONBLOCK); waits for no man... err, i mean key 22:28 < calamari> does getchar wait for a key? 22:28 < calamari> (always?) 22:28 < kick52> it continuisly streams out put (yay) you should put that for keyboard_block(). i think: 0 - nonblocking (the fcntl thing) 1 - partial blocking like in my program i sent you 2. fully block 22:29 < kick52> in the fcntl thing, i use getchar(), it dint wait for a key. it continues if i dont press anything 22:30 < kick52> do you get me? 22:32 < calamari> yeah, perfect 22:35 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:35 < kick52> are you putting that in keyboard_block or whatever then? 22:37 < kick52> actually, i could do that, but i cant today as im working on slacking/loadzilla. 22:39 < calamari> no I'll do it 22:39 < kick52> ok then 22:40 < kick52> remember, im always here to help 22:40 < kick52> not that im saying you need help. 22:46 < kick52> do you know what is the center button on ipods? i looked on the key_chart page, but it had more than 1 letter codes which wont work. 22:47 < kick52> wait, will \n work? i'll try 22:47 < calamari> I thought it was \n 22:47 < calamari> or possibly \r 22:47 < kick52> oh, i think \r was for desktop builds, \n for pods 22:48 < kick52> ok 75% done 22:48 < calamari> I can add something for keyboard_read that translated \r to \n for you 22:48 < calamari> d->s 22:48 < kick52> na, dont worry, its fine 22:49 < calamari> too late ;) 22:49 < kick52> oh. i think my hard drive just skipped a beat. 22:49 < kick52> haha. 22:49 < kick52> my HD super fastly spinned down and up, when i was using it. 22:50 < kick52> btw: the code that i am using is loadzillamenu in what i sent you. 22:53 < kick52> seems like the '\r' thing isnt working on my mac. i'll try the ipod. 22:53 < kick52> oops. got code wrong way round. 22:54 < kick52> \n - desktop \r - pod 22:58 -!- NsN [i=Gaspode@wh282.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 < kick52> ok, compile for my mac seems to work fine 23:05 < kick52> im now testing it on the pod. 23:06 < kick52> what you doing calamari? 23:06 < calamari> just finished testing keyboard_blocking 23:06 < kick52> cool. when is the next icurses out? 23:06 < calamari> I had to find a way to turn off blocking but also to turn it back on 23:07 < calamari> still a bug in the centering routine 23:07 < calamari> working on it 23:08 < kick52> im really want to write something for this... cant think what though.. 23:10 < calamari> gotta get ready to go .. printf_centered is not done, so don't try it yet .. hehe 23:11 < kick52> ready to go? 23:14 < calamari> yeah, going to a church bbq 23:14 < calamari> okay 0.0.7 is up 23:14 < calamari> I'll work more on printf_centered later 23:15 < kick52> oh right. cool. when you come back, i might not be on as its 12:19pm now in england 23:15 < kick52> thanks for doing 0.0.7 23:16 < calamari> sure 23:16 < calamari> afk... ttyl, thanks for your help with the nonblocking code 23:16 < kick52> bye. see you next time. have a nice bbq 23:16 < calamari> thanks 23:26 -!- himitsu__ [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has joined #iPodLinux 23:43 -!- himitsu_ [n=himitsu@61.213.184.46] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:46 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host224-200.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:57 < BHSPitLappy> kick52, why would I mind 23:58 -!- Stern [n=Stern@ool-44c51b38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:58 < kick52> just a bit of a late reply, but: well you made clauncher didnt you? 23:59 < Stern> hey kick52 23:59 < kick52> hi. --- Log closed Sun Oct 08 00:00:00 2006