--- Log opened Wed Sep 27 00:00:01 2006 00:15 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 00:43 -!- DrMoreau [i=mewho@24.151.104.191] has joined #ipodlinux 00:43 < DrMoreau> lo 00:44 -!- cartman [i=cartman@laptricity.mobile.asu.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 00:50 -!- DrMoreau [i=mewho@24.151.104.191] has quit [] 00:59 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@dupedoo.de] has quit ["changing servers"] 01:05 -!- cartman [i=cartman@laptricity.mobile.asu.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:05 -!- cartman [i=cartman@laptricity.mobile.asu.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 -!- FruitwOOt [i=fruitwoo@modemcable134.119-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 < FruitwOOt> is it possible to see the Generation of your ipod from dmesg output ? (Linux) for example I've got Rev: 1.62 ... 01:19 < FruitwOOt> maybe it is the firmware version 01:19 < FruitwOOt> ? 01:26 -!- Gast6331037 [n=SilverBa@68.70.192.252] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 -!- Gast6331037 is now known as Silver 01:35 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:35 -!- Reverie [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 -!- Reverie is now known as Trunksi 01:42 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@201-68-7-136.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 02:01 -!- cartman [i=cartman@laptricity.mobile.asu.edu] has quit [Success] 02:07 -!- FruitwOOt [i=fruitwoo@modemcable134.119-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:14 -!- bigal [i=bigal@252-105.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:15 * bigal is back from dinner. I was gone for 3hrs 4mins —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 02:15 < bigal> hey all 02:17 < bigal> so what would everyone reccomend to install linux on 02:17 < bigal> if i understand correctly the ipod picture is the best, compatibily so far? 02:18 * bigal is AFK, sleep then school —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 02:45 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@dupedoo.de] has joined #ipodlinux 03:29 -!- _david [n=david@24-107-68-227.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:49 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:51 -!- ajedwards [n=justacha@gajoam.plus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:16 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:16 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:31 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 05:33 -!- ajedwards [n=justacha@gajoam.plus.com] has joined #iPodLinux 05:38 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:00 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:39 -!- Bi-noix [n=Bi-noix@tok69-5-82-235-148-129.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:09 < z3ro> does someone know about how to obtain the new ipod updater binary for extraction of the firmware (I want to look at the bootstrap code) 07:09 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:09 < z3ro> apperently they have discontinued the updater binary and now use "itunes" to do this, somehow? 07:09 < z3ro> but I don't know anything about this... 07:42 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 07:44 < linuxstb_> z3ro: I've no idea about extracting firmware images from itunes 7, but you can just upgrade your ipod, then extract the contents of the firmware partition using "dd". But the bootloader image in the firmware partition is encrypted. 07:45 < z3ro> the encryption shouldn't be a problem. unless they changed the algorithm. 07:46 < linuxstb_> BTW, did you read my replies to you the other day - regarding your questions about a completely free ipod? 07:46 < z3ro> linuxstb_: not sure, I'll check the logs (I only really notice when irssi alerts me, when someone says a message prefixed by 'z3ro') 07:47 < linuxstb_> From 10:52 here: http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ipodlinux.log-2006-09-24 07:49 < z3ro> oooo... jtag. :D 07:49 < z3ro> linuxstb_: and yes, I've done my fair share of embedded hacking. 07:50 < z3ro> linuxstb_: is davidc '_david', or is that someone else? 07:51 < linuxstb_> I think they're different people. 07:51 < z3ro> yeah. I just checked with nickserv, and "davidc" is a registered name, so they must be different people. 07:52 < z3ro> any idea what time he usually comes online? 07:52 < linuxstb_> I _think_ he's Canadian. 07:53 < linuxstb_> So he'll be asleep now. 07:54 < z3ro> I suck with timezones, so what's the general time there? just turning night? (I know different parts of the country will be different) 07:54 < linuxstb_> Between 5 and 8 hours behind Europe. 07:54 < linuxstb_> But you're in NZ.... 07:54 < z3ro> yeah 07:55 < linuxstb_> Check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ 07:55 < z3ro> thanks 07:56 < z3ro> okay. depending on where he is, it's somewhere between 1am and 5am there. 07:57 * z3ro is eager to talk to davidc... I wonder how he got the jtag working, since there are basically no docs on the portalplayer processors. 07:58 < z3ro> I filled out their PP's contact form, but they haven't replied. I think they are not interested unless you're a big company. 07:58 -!- isoflux [n=eluine@c-67-170-197-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 < linuxstb_> No, they seem to ignore requests. I'm sure IPL people have asked in the past, and we (I'm a Rockbox developer) sent them a letter recently asking for info, and that was ignored. 08:00 < z3ro> hmm. kind of rude. 08:01 < z3ro> you think the least that they could do is reply saying "sorry, we can't help you" or something. 08:01 < linuxstb_> It wouldn't surprise me if even companies like Apple don't have any low-level programming info on the portalplayer chips - they have the "firmware development kit" to use instead. 08:01 < linuxstb_> Yes, you would think so... 08:01 < z3ro> which is probably just a binary blob. 08:01 < z3ro> the firmware devel kit. 08:01 < linuxstb_> Exactly. 08:03 < z3ro> I think that getting jtag would be good, since then it's possible to dump the firmware, decrypt it, and (painfully) disassemble it... 08:03 < linuxstb_> You don't need jtag to dump the firmware. 08:03 < z3ro> is the kernel flash map driver complete enough to dump the firmware/bootstrap code. 08:04 < z3ro> I'm talking about the "very first code to be executed upon powerup" firmware, not the higher level stuff. 08:11 < linuxstb_> afaik, when an ARM processor is powered up, it starts executing from address 0. On the ipods, this is the flash, and yes, you can easily dump this from within either IPL (I think there are tools in the wiki for it), or (the way I've done it) by using the Rockbox bootloader. I'm not aware of any code executed before that. 08:13 < z3ro> yeah, that's correct. I was just making sure that you were not talking about the "firmware" that's on the hdd. 08:13 < z3ro> I'd really call the code on the hdd "software", but lots of people call it "firmware" too. 08:13 < linuxstb_> The slight complication is that IPL remaps the SDRAM to address 0 (i.e. over the top of the flash), so you can't read it from IPL without mapping the flash to a different address. 08:14 < z3ro> I think I saw a program somewhere that did remapping... 08:14 < z3ro> in the ipl svn. 08:14 < linuxstb_> I understand what you mean - but both parts are stored on the disk. The main OS is unencrypted, and loaded from disk each time, but the code that gets flashed is also stored on disk, and is flashed the first time the ipod boots after an upgrade. 08:15 < linuxstb_> The code that gets flashed is the part that's encrypted. 08:15 < linuxstb_> (but not encrypted in flash) 08:15 -!- isoflux [n=eluine@c-67-170-197-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:15 < z3ro> ah, well, it's easiest to just dump the flash then. 08:16 < z3ro> get an unencrypted copy. 08:16 < linuxstb_> Yep. 08:16 < z3ro> although I have some code (forgot who gave it to me, but they asked not to redistribute) that can decrypt this encryption. (or at least, I believe it can) 08:16 < z3ro> but dumping direct from flash seems easiest. 08:20 < z3ro> yeah. getflash.c seems to do what I want. 08:20 < linuxstb_> Is there anything in particular you're planning on working on? 08:21 < z3ro> so, really, ipodloader2 is the second stage bootloader, eg: power on -> address 0 -> jmp to some other place -> apple 1st stage loader -> jmp to 2nd stage loader (ipodloader2) 08:21 < linuxstb_> Yes. 08:22 < z3ro> okay... so at least the 2nd stage is done already. :) 08:22 < z3ro> although I suspect 1st stage is harder. :p 08:23 < z3ro> so, everything up to and including the 1st stage loader is on the small flash chip, and everything else is on the hdd or large flash chip (for those ipods that use flash memory instead of a hdd) 08:24 < linuxstb_> Yes. 08:24 < z3ro> okay. :) 08:24 < linuxstb_> So you're still hoping to replace that code? 08:27 < z3ro> sure, should be an interesting project... I haven't done any arm asm code, but I think it shouldn't be too bad. (I understand the concepts of programming asm code, but I haven't written anything in it directly) 08:28 < z3ro> even if I fail, I should get some good information about the low level stuff in the process. 08:28 < linuxstb_> As I said the other day, your two big problems are 1) You need to implement the USB disk mode; 2) You need to perform all the hardware initialisation currently performed by the Apple startup code and not in IPL. 08:29 < z3ro> by disk mode, do you mean that rescue thing? shouldn't really be needed imho... 08:30 < z3ro> but you're right about the init code, that will be "fun" 08:30 < linuxstb_> Without the disk mode, how do you access your ipod's disk? 08:30 < z3ro> from within gnu/linux... 08:30 < linuxstb_> Huh? 08:31 < z3ro> I don't see why a bootloader should implement a usb mode, when the kernel does this anyway. 08:31 < linuxstb_> No, the kernel doesn't. 08:31 < linuxstb_> The bootloader implements it so that you can access the ipod if/when the disk is corrupted. 08:32 < z3ro> well, it's a failsafe system. it's useful, but I think making the bootloader work first is more important. 08:32 < z3ro> then it's possible to add nice features. 08:33 < z3ro> I'd just go for a really minimal "get the system up and initialized, and jmp to ipodloader2" bootloader. 08:33 < linuxstb_> No, it's not just a nice feature. If you get rid of the Apple bootloader code, your ipod won't be accessible (unless you run the main Apple OS to use the disk mode present there) 08:34 < linuxstb_> IPL itself doesn't implement disk mode - that's the problem. 08:34 < linuxstb_> (it reboots and starts the Apple bootloader's disk mode) 08:35 < z3ro> right, but afaik you don't need the disk mode, it's just needed if you break the kerenal and render it unbootable. 08:35 < z3ro> in order to write to the disk with a new kernel. 08:36 < linuxstb_> "disk mode" is the software running on your ipod when you connect it to your PC via USB. 08:37 < z3ro> oh... it's not possible to access the ipod via usb with the kenrel booted? it must reboot into disk mode and become a "dumb" mass storage device? 08:37 < linuxstb_> Yes. 08:37 < linuxstb_> There is no USB driver code in IPL 08:37 < z3ro> ah 08:37 < z3ro> I see now. 08:37 < z3ro> hmm. I guess I'd need to write that. 08:38 < z3ro> is there any information about the usb hardware? 08:38 < linuxstb_> What do you think? 08:38 < z3ro> I'm guessing probably very little, if any. 08:39 < linuxstb_> I know a few people have tried to investigate it, but I've no idea about their progress. 08:40 < linuxstb_> afaik, no-one has posted any useful findings anywhere. 08:42 < z3ro> hmm. :( 08:59 < z3ro> linuxstb_: do you happen to know the status of the ipod nano 2nd generation? It's listed as unsupported, but then so is the ipod mini (which "unofficially" works fine) 08:59 < z3ro> the nano 2nd gen does use a vastly different cpu, though. 08:59 -!- AlDog [n=a@218-214-46-159.people.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:59 < AlDog> hello 08:59 < AlDog> I have a 5g ipod 09:00 < AlDog> and im wondering how i can downgrade firmware so i can install ipodlinux 09:06 -!- AlDog [n=a@218-214-46-159.people.net.au] has quit [] 09:06 < linuxstb_> z3ro: It's completely unsupported - as you said, it's a completely different CPU. 09:08 < z3ro> linuxstb_: okay. just thought I'd ask incase someone is working on it, but I guess I'll have to go for the 1st gen mini if I decide to get one (old one is dead) 09:09 < linuxstb_> Why the first gen mini? All ipods apart from the very latest 5gs (which look like they'll need a small tweak) and the 2nd gen Nano work fine. 09:10 < z3ro> you just said the 2nd gen nano isn't supported. 09:10 < linuxstb_> Yes. 09:10 < linuxstb_> you said "first gen mini" 09:11 < linuxstb_> Did you mean first gen Nano? 09:11 < z3ro> ah, yes, sorry. 09:11 < z3ro> 1st gen nano. 09:11 < z3ro> too many damn names. 09:11 < z3ro> why can't they just name them like v1, v2, v3, ... 09:19 -!- gtkspert [n=gtkspert@203-59-136-12.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 09:20 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:22 -!- Synapse [i=foobar@adium/Synapse] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- Life^ [n=12@a137118.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:34 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@185.44.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 10:42 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:42 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 10:43 -!- Optical|Ghost [n=das@87.67.133.137] has joined #ipodlinux 10:43 < Optical|Ghost> hi @ all 10:43 < Optical|Ghost> can i speak german or must i speak english? 10:46 < Optical|Ghost> ok i speak english 10:46 < spiorf> Optical|Ghost, if you speak english lots more people can read 10:46 < Optical|Ghost> yes 10:46 < Optical|Ghost> so my question 10:47 < Optical|Ghost> i have restored my ipod i get an error when i open the installer and klick ohn yes i made a backup i have not a backup but i click next then come a failure message 10:47 < Optical|Ghost> what i can do? 10:50 < Optical|Ghost> ok i format my ipod with hp usb 10:50 < Optical|Ghost> what update must i installing on my ipod? 10:54 -!- Xen0n [i=WinNT@CPE-147-10-254-142.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:19 < Optical|Ghost> anyone herE? 11:29 -!- linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb 11:31 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:41 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@185.44.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 11:41 -!- himitsu [n=himitsu@61.213.184.139] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:52 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 12:08 -!- SereR0kR [n=chris@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:08 -!- SereR0kR [n=chris@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:32 < Optical|Ghost> anyone here? 12:33 -!- Xen0n [i=WinNT@CPE-147-10-254-142.wa.bigpond.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 12:33 < Optical|Ghost> nobody here? 12:33 < Optical|Ghost> :( 12:57 < Optical|Ghost> what version i need for the 5g to install linux on my ipod? 13:08 < Optical|Ghost> omfg? by hp usb tool come by the end of formatting an error Volume is too big 13:36 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:37 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 13:39 -!- calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:50 < BleuLlama> the new 5th gen (enhanced; brighter screen, 80gb disk) does not work with ipodlinux yet 13:50 < abi> what problems? 13:51 < BleuLlama> block size for one. it requires changes to make_fw 13:56 < Optical|Ghost> ahm i have the 60 GB 13:56 < Optical|Ghost> how i can restore it now? 13:56 < BleuLlama> there's plenty of information on the wiki wrt restoring your ipod 13:56 * BleuLlama afk - meeting 13:56 < Optical|Ghost> please 13:56 < Optical|Ghost> help^^ 13:57 < Optical|Ghost> -.- 13:57 < Optical|Ghost> in itunes i cant find my ipod 13:57 < Optical|Ghost> by the update come an error and by the hp tool cmoe an error 13:57 < Optical|Ghost> -.- 14:02 -!- Random_Transit [n=ryan@CPE00119556e2d8-CM0012c9a9ac1c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:02 < Random_Transit> hey, anyone alive in here?? 14:02 < Random_Transit> i need some help 14:03 < Random_Transit> i'm using GTKPod to manage my iPod...only it says it can't create directories 14:04 < linuxstb> This is a channel for running Linux on your ipod, not using your ipod with Linux... 14:04 < Random_Transit> sorry 14:04 < calamari> Random_Transit: I have some experience with that 14:05 < Random_Transit> calamari, really? 14:05 < calamari> linuxstb: is it okay to help him in here? 14:05 < linuxstb> Don't ask me - I'm just visiting like yourself... 14:05 < calamari> ahh ok :) 14:05 < linuxstb> But technically it's off-topic. 14:05 < calamari> Random_Transit: what I found out was that gtkpod was looking for my ipod at a certain mount point 14:06 < Random_Transit> yeah, i created the mount point 14:06 < Random_Transit> but it says it can't create directories there 14:06 < Random_Transit> and i tried chowning /mnt/ipod to my user...it won't let me 14:06 < calamari> Random_Transit: did you also modify /etc/fstab ? 14:07 < Random_Transit> yeah 14:07 < calamari> hmm 14:07 < Random_Transit> gave it auto,rw,users 14:07 < calamari> weird.. I did those 2 things and also run gtkpod as root.. worked for me 14:08 < Random_Transit> ahhh 14:08 < Random_Transit> ok, that might be it 14:08 < calamari> you'll know it's working properly when you can quit gtkpod and your ipod leaves disk mode 14:08 < Random_Transit> i'll run gtkpod as root 14:08 -!- Optical|Ghost [n=das@87.67.133.137] has quit [] 14:08 < Random_Transit> will i have to re-import everything when i run as root? 14:08 < calamari> possibly.. I don't really know 14:09 < Random_Transit> i hope not...that took me all night 14:09 < calamari> mine was never able to import until I ran as root 14:11 < calamari> actually, I think I set a gtkpod option to have it automatically handle mounting.. so if you haven't then my auto-unmount comment is misleading 14:13 -!- webmind [i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:13 -!- Optical|Ghost [n=das@87.67.133.137] has joined #ipodlinux 14:13 < Random_Transit> btw, this is a 1gig nano, if that helps any 14:13 < calamari> I did this for my dad's 4gb mini on xubuntu 14:14 < Random_Transit> ah 14:14 < Random_Transit> i'm on gentoo 14:14 < calamari> did root help? 14:14 < Random_Transit> dunno...importing a playlist 14:14 < Random_Transit> should only be a couple minutes more till it's done 14:15 -!- webmind [i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 14:27 < Random_Transit> ok....now i'm getting an error 14:27 < Random_Transit> the ipod goes back to normal when i shut down gtkpod 14:27 < Random_Transit> but... 14:28 < Random_Transit> when i try to start it back up, it gives me a weird error message 14:29 < calamari> try running an eject command and see if that helps 14:29 < Random_Transit> eject? 14:29 < calamari> eject /mountpoint 14:30 < Random_Transit> unable to open /mnt/hda2 14:30 < Random_Transit> err 14:30 < calamari> hda2? 14:30 < Random_Transit> sda2 14:30 < Random_Transit> sry 14:30 < calamari> try eject sda2 14:30 < Random_Transit> nope 14:31 < Random_Transit> hold a sec 14:31 < calamari> I gotta go to work.. good luck! 14:31 < Random_Transit> lol 14:31 < Random_Transit> ok 14:33 < Optical|Ghost> what i must click standard loader with apple standard with ipodlinux or ipodloader2? for the 5g 14:37 < Optical|Ghost> Missing dependency The package you selected, 'factor', has a dependeny on 'textinput' which I was not able to satisfy. Sorry but you can't select this package? 14:44 < linuxstb> Optical|Ghost: ipodloader2 I believe. 14:45 < Optical|Ghost> can i install ipodloader2 or not? 14:47 < Random_Transit> so can anyone else help me? 14:47 < Random_Transit> i kinda feel like i'm banging my head against a wall here 14:47 < Optical|Ghost> yeah 14:47 < linuxstb> Optical|Ghost: ipodloader2 will definitely work. I don't know if the old loader will work. 14:47 < Optical|Ghost> finish 14:48 < Optical|Ghost> installation 14:48 < Optical|Ghost> is finished 14:48 < Optical|Ghost> and its functionally 14:48 < Optical|Ghost> ^^ 14:51 < Optical|Ghost> how i can make linux faster? 14:53 < linuxstb> optimise the code 14:53 < Optical|Ghost> how-? 14:55 < Optical|Ghost> ??? 14:58 < Optical|Ghost> ahm can i play .avi movies on linux now? 14:58 -!- fxb_ is now known as fxb 15:01 < Optical|Ghost> hmm 15:01 < BleuLlama> Optical|Ghost: read the wiki; it explains ipodlinux video playback 15:02 < Optical|Ghost> i cant find on my ipod in windows the linux folde 15:02 < Optical|Ghost> r 15:02 < BleuLlama> that is covered on the wiki as well. 15:02 < BleuLlama> please look there.. we set up the wiki to help with stuff like this so we're not answering the same questions over and over in here. 15:03 < Optical|Ghost> ok sorry i search in the wiki 15:10 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:20 -!- Lufsen [n=Miranda@h198n2fls34o962.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:23 < Lufsen> hello every1, i kinda have a problem. i have a 4th generation of ipod photo (20gb) i have px0 installed and mv_player, yet im using the mvpd_encoder from the forum and all my movies either have sound for a second or laggy sound that drags the movie to go slower to. 15:23 < Lufsen> px0 =pz0 15:26 < fxb> reduce video fps and quality. 15:26 < Lufsen> sorry didnt add that, i kinda tested the most configurations. 15:27 < Lufsen> i went so low on fps that i had like 6 fps and it was unbareble to watch 15:27 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.143.58] has joined #ipodlinux 15:27 < Lufsen> the best i can get is quality 15:27 < Lufsen> 10 15:27 < Lufsen> fps 15:27 < Lufsen> 10 15:27 < Lufsen> sound 15:27 < Lufsen> 44100 15:27 < Lufsen> channels 15:28 < Lufsen> 2 15:28 < BleuLlama> put more than one word on a line, please. 15:28 < Lufsen> didnt mean that actually 15:29 < Lufsen> with this i get good movie with sound just abit off. some pauses in the sound 15:30 < fxb> if the sound goes off, press pause and wait for it to stop playing, then press play again. 15:31 < Lufsen> tryed that to, it has good sound and video sync for like 5 seconds 15:31 < fxb> then try to reduce the audio frequency. 15:31 < Lufsen> you mean the sample rate? 15:32 < fxb> change the 44100 to 24000 or 16000 15:32 < Lufsen> tryed that to 15:33 < fxb> then it's most likely because the disk access is too slow. 15:34 < Lufsen> can i fix that? or am i "screwed"? 15:35 < fxb> wait for Gaspode to fix this. 15:36 < fxb> nanos can play videos fine because the use a flash storage (which is faster than a hd). 15:36 < Lufsen> iC... well thx for yer help any way 15:39 < linuxstb> fxb: Nanos also have a much smaller LCD than the other ipods - which means a video player needs to do less work. 15:39 < Optical|Ghost> hmm can linux play avi videos? 15:39 < Optical|Ghost> on a 5gen 15:39 < Optical|Ghost> ? 15:41 < Lufsen> @linuxstb well the decoder has a "witdh and hight" adjuster, and i tryed making it smaller to play vids. no difference 15:42 < fxb> linuxstb: true. 15:44 < linuxstb> Lufsen: Do you mean the decoder or the encoder? 15:48 < fxb> he means te encoder. 15:48 < fxb> the* 15:52 < Optical|Ghost> hmmm 15:52 < Optical|Ghost> i cant find how i can play videos 15:52 < Optical|Ghost> on linux of ipod 16:00 < Optical|Ghost> what is my ipod root dir? 16:10 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-250-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:11 -!- ajedwards [n=justacha@gajoam.plus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:22 -!- Random_Transit [n=ryan@CPE00119556e2d8-CM0012c9a9ac1c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:28 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@pool-68-237-51-232.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:29 -!- hhehw [n=hhehw@pool-68-237-51-232.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:45 -!- lex [i=lex@evot.us] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:45 -!- lex [i=lex@evot.us] has joined #ipodlinux 16:46 -!- lex [i=lex@evot.us] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:48 < Optical|Ghost> welches format müssen filme haben? 16:49 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:49 < Lufsen> mvpd, and keep it english 16:49 < fxb> or uncompressed avi if you're using pz0 for video playback. 16:50 -!- lex_ [i=lex@evot.us] has joined #ipodlinux 16:52 -!- linuxphile [n=dan@dexter.computingoptions.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:53 < linuxphile> Has anyone here worked with a toshiba gigabeat? 17:03 < Optical|Ghost> where is my ipod root foldeR? 17:04 < Optical|Ghost> it is the Ipod_Control? 17:06 < Optical|Ghost> and where i must install rockbox? 17:06 < fxb> the root is for example: "K:\" 17:06 < fxb> if you're on windows of course... 17:07 < fxb> and rockbox is just copied to the root. 17:07 < Optical|Ghost> ok my ipod is H so its "H:\" 17:07 < Optical|Ghost> i have just copied to the roor 17:07 < Optical|Ghost> root 17:07 < Optical|Ghost> but it dont works 17:07 < Optical|Ghost> by the launcher is not rockbox 17:08 < Optical|Ghost> oh now is functionaly 17:09 < fxb> you have to edit the loader.cfg file. 17:09 < Optical|Ghost> no ^^ 17:23 < Optical|Ghost> help 17:23 < Optical|Ghost> when i boot linux its by MPD but nothing come then 17:41 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD44BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:43 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:43 -!- Reverie [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:43 -!- Reverie is now known as Trunksi 17:46 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-250-040.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:00 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 18:07 -!- ajedwards [n=justacha@gajoam.plus.com] has joined #iPodLinux 18:08 -!- Optical|Ghost [n=das@87.67.133.137] has quit [] 18:14 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:14 -!- bigal [i=bigal@252-105.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:14 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:14 -!- bigal [i=bigal@252-105.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 -!- Reverie [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 -!- Reverie is now known as Trunksi 18:20 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 < bigal> hey all 18:30 -!- bigal [i=bigal@252-105.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 18:38 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.143.58] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:48 -!- SereR0kR [n=chris@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 -!- SereR0kR [n=chris@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:53 -!- DerPapst [n=DerPapst@p54BD44BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:11 -!- chris_ [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:11 -!- chris_ [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:13 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:13 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:13 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:20 -!- SereR0kR [n=SereR0kR@Ea6b7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 < Lufsen> i allready posted this 17:23 (eu time) but im hoping some1 logged in that can help me. i have a 4th generation ipod photo (20 gb) with pz0 installed and mv_player, im using the mvpd_encoder from the forum yet all my movies either only have sound for a second, then vanishes, or the soudn goes slow and dragging the movie to also go slow. 19:23 < Lufsen> i tryed almost any fps/quality/samplrate/channel configuration out there 19:35 < linuxstb> Maybe mv_player just isn't fast enough? Have you read reports from people using is successfully on a Photo? 19:35 < linuxstb> ^using it successfully 19:35 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:35 -!- Reverie [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:35 -!- Reverie is now known as Trunksi 19:36 < Lufsen> hrmm i never checked into it like that. thou i have heard of ppl with photo ipods that have similar problems like me 19:36 < Lufsen> wait! now when i think of it, theres a guy actually called "ipodphoto" i think he managed it 19:36 < Lufsen> you think if i installed a new mv_player it will work? 19:37 < linuxstb> I've no idea, but it's generally a good idea to use the newest available versions. 19:38 < Lufsen> i think i downloaded mv_pleyer from the ipodwiki :S isnt that up to date? 19:38 < linuxstb> I don't know. 19:40 < Lufsen> well, ill check it anyway, thx 19:47 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:47 -!- Reverie [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 -!- Reverie is now known as Trunksi 20:02 -!- linuxphile [n=dan@dexter.computingoptions.com] has quit [] 20:54 -!- Commodus [n=Commodus@ip503ca2d5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:55 < Commodus> Hi, i try to install Linux on my iPod Nano (2GB) but now i can't listen music and iTunes can't see my iPod. How can i bring my iPod back to the 'old-version' ? 21:03 < Lufsen> tryed porting it in "disk mode"? 21:05 < Commodus> i just did 21:05 < Commodus> i connect it to the pc 21:05 < Lufsen> and your itunes see it? 21:05 < Commodus> no 21:05 < Lufsen> ic 21:05 < Commodus> there are still files from Linux 21:06 < Commodus> sould i make a screenshot of it? 21:06 < Lufsen> nah. 21:06 < Lufsen> i pretty much know what it looks like 21:06 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-234-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:06 < Commodus> oke, files that i can't remove and one map with a weird title :/ 21:06 < Commodus> can you help me please 21:06 < Lufsen> does your computer find you ipod? 21:07 < Commodus> yes 21:07 < Lufsen> dotn you have a restring disk? 21:07 < Lufsen> restoring? 21:07 < fxb> reformat using the HP USB Format Tool. 21:07 < Commodus> ehat do you mean 21:08 < Lufsen> well i never used nano very much, but when i bought my photo i got a cd 21:08 < Commodus> my english is very bad, didn't learn mutch on school ;) so if you understood when i don;t get you 21:08 < Lufsen> you dont happen to be swedish then? 21:08 < Commodus> yes me to 21:08 < Commodus> dutch 21:08 < Lufsen> aa,h sorry my dutch aint that good 21:08 < Lufsen> well use the cd then 21:09 < Commodus> iPod + iTunes 21:09 < Commodus> that is on the cd 21:09 < Lufsen> wait 21:09 < Lufsen> well mine just say ipod 21:10 < Lufsen> and when i use it it reflashing (home made word) the ipod to the ordinary files 21:10 < Commodus> . . 21:11 < Lufsen> but, i find it odd that your computer finds the ipod, but itunes dont 21:11 < Commodus> yes me to 21:12 < Lufsen> hrmm, open a-manager (ctrl-alt-del) and check if a proscess name ipodservice.exe is running 21:13 < Commodus> yes it is 21:14 < Lufsen> wow... 21:14 < Lufsen> then im pretty clue less o0 21:14 < Commodus> :/ 21:14 < Commodus> when i open iTunes 21:14 < Lufsen> lemme check if they have a apple restore utillity on their page 21:14 < Commodus> there comes a '!' in my 21:15 < Commodus> in the desktop 21:15 < Commodus> it says 21:15 < Commodus> that the map \iPod_Control is damged or onread.. and i sould run CHKDSK 21:16 < Lufsen> well ipod_controll is a file inside your ipod and im pretty sure its apple fireware who put it there o0, 21:16 < Lufsen> btw, you got newest itunes? 7.0? 21:17 < Commodus> yes 21:18 < BleuLlama> 7.0.1 is out as of today, btw. 21:19 < Lufsen> oh. cool 21:19 < Commodus> awsome, but i don't have mutch fun with the new itunes when my ipod is not working 21:19 < Commodus> screenshot: http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5531/ipodscreenvs6.png 21:20 < BleuLlama> what if you restore your ipod? 21:20 < BleuLlama> that looks like filesystem corruption 21:20 < Lufsen> yeah was about to say that is some wierd shit, thou lama said it better 21:20 < Commodus> hold on, hold off, center + menu? 21:20 < Commodus> nothing 21:21 < Commodus> only the apple logo 21:21 < Commodus> and it is bak again 21:21 < BleuLlama> bow that you can mount it, restore it from the apple tools 21:21 < Commodus> ehm what? 21:22 < BleuLlama> you have itunes 7, right? 21:22 < Commodus> yes 21:22 < BleuLlama> go to the ipod from itunes, and click "restore". 21:22 < Lufsen> he cant see his ipod in itunes 21:22 < Commodus> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60983 21:22 < BleuLlama> oh. weird. 21:22 < Lufsen> yeah.' 21:22 < Commodus> i try but when i go to itunes 21:23 < Commodus> there is no ipod 21:23 < BleuLlama> similar problems are listed on the wiki 21:23 < Commodus> yes, thank you Lufsen 21:23 < Lufsen> :D 21:23 < BleuLlama> you've rebooted your pc and put your ipod into disk mode, right? 21:23 < Commodus> can you give me the url? i can't find them 21:23 < Commodus> reboot? no 21:23 < Commodus> momento 21:23 < Commodus> back in a minute 21:23 -!- Commodus [n=Commodus@ip503ca2d5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["Baracasino.com"] 21:23 < BleuLlama> follow that apple article. 21:23 < BleuLlama> whatever. 21:23 < Lufsen> well apple once had a apple_restore thingy that you could use without itunes 21:23 < Lufsen> and hes gone 21:32 -!- Commodus [n=Commodus@ip503ca2d5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 21:32 < Commodus> heey, i couldn't find the channel :p 21:32 < Commodus> ipod is still the same 21:33 < Commodus> but in disk mode 21:33 < Commodus> BlueLlame, Lufsen 21:35 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@12-227-168-43.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:35 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@12-227-168-43.client.mchsi.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:36 < fxb> Commodus: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10931 21:36 -!- karmon [n=1009247b@HSE-Montreal-ppp344536.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 21:37 < Commodus> oke, i will try that, thank you 21:40 < Commodus> FAT, FAT31 or NTFS ? 21:41 < Commodus> wow 21:42 < Commodus> the ipod i now empty =) 21:43 < fxb> FAT32 21:44 < Commodus> yes i did 21:44 < Commodus> i have to update the new version of ipod 21:44 < Commodus> i did 21:45 < Commodus> wow :D 21:45 < Commodus> thank you very mutch 21:48 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-240-51.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 < Commodus> you have give me alot of fun with that link :) 21:48 < Commodus> now i can listen my favorite music when i am on my bike, to school 21:48 < Commodus> haha 21:48 < Commodus> thank you!! 21:48 < fiftyfour123> anyone in here know applescript? 21:48 < Commodus> bye bye 21:48 -!- Commodus [n=Commodus@ip503ca2d5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["Baracasino.com"] 21:49 < fiftyfour123> anyone in here know applescript? 21:49 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-240-51.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:02 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-234-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:03 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 22:04 -!- fxb is now known as fxb_ 22:20 -!- karmon [n=1009247b@HSE-Montreal-ppp344536.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:50 -!- Trunksi [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:50 -!- Reverie [n=trunks@S0106004005c7c3a7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:50 -!- Reverie is now known as Trunksi 22:51 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:54 -!- spiorf [n=spiorf@host97-130.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@virlet.rez-gif.supelec.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:07 -!- Bi-noix [n=Bi-noix@tok69-5-82-235-148-129.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["bn"] 23:12 -!- Lufsen [n=Miranda@h198n2fls34o962.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:20 -!- rconan [n=richard@82.14.26.251] has joined #ipodlinux 23:20 < rconan> what's up with the installer at the moment? 23:20 < rconan> its just segfaulting on me --- Log closed Thu Sep 28 00:00:00 2006