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00:07 < FruitwOOt> je me fait harceler ?
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00:33 < iPL-SVN> jonrelay * tools/podzilla2/modules/tidial/tidial.c: Per mp's suggestion, Scroll with Prediction has letters in alphabetical order. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1297)
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00:53 < skge> I'm having trouble installing the toolchain on Gentoo Linux. Anyone know why "tail -n+${SKIP} ${SCRIPT} | gunzip | tar xvf -" tells me this:
00:54 < skge> tail: +: invalid number of lines
00:54 < skge> gunzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
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00:55 < vanberge> are there any linux users in here (on pc, not on ipod)
00:55 < skge> maybe
00:55 < skge> :P
00:55 < vanberge> i was trying to figure out a way to sync my ipod using linux :-(
00:56 < skge> you mean like...put songs on
00:56 < skge> GTKpod
00:57 < skge> anyone know how to fix my issue with the toolchain?
00:59 < vanberge> skge: i don't like that program very much.
00:59 < vanberge> i was hoping somebody would be familiar with amarok
01:06 < vanberge> does the current ipl installer work on ubuntu linux?
01:07 < skge> it should. Run it as root.
01:07 < Leiche123> hi
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01:15 < vanberge> skge: nope  :-(   
01:15 < vanberge> ./installer: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
01:15 < skge> ran as root?
01:15 < vanberge> yeah
01:16 < skge> wtf??  hmm... maybe check your package manager for "libcrypto.so.0.9.7"
01:16 < vanberge> i think that is the package for ssl
01:16 < vanberge> no?
01:17 < skge> no idea. The installer ran fine for me
01:17 < skge> I had nothing but issues with Ubuntu when it came to libraries 
01:17 < vanberge> skge: on the newest?  dapper?
01:18 < skge> nah, when i used it it was still in 5.10
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02:38 < deameyes> ok, on cygwin I'm trying to make mp4ff, but "make IPOD=1" says "no such file or directory" "***No rule to make target 'Makefile'. Stop."  any suggestions?
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03:04 < hiro_protagonist> hey all, this is me again... sorry It took so long for me to get back here, but if any of you were hear earlier, replaceing the battery got it working... hell if I know why
03:05 < hiro_protagonist> not replaceing, but unpluging and pluging back in
03:05 < hiro_protagonist> anway, I'm off to bed
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03:15 < BleuLlama> here*  replacing*
03:15 < BleuLlama> :p
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03:18 < nar588> Hi, Ipod 4g B&W user here. Yeah it's unsupported but linux worked fine, I just need help setting up the iboy feature of floydzilla. If i came to the right place, please help me out, if not do a /slap :-D Oh I use windows btw
03:22 < nar588> how active this is
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03:23 < deameyes> cvs is bein a pain for downloading podzilla source code; should I just download floydzilla and extract it into the ipodlinux folder?
03:26 < davidc__> nar588: we don't make floydzilla
03:26 < davidc__> nar588: ask the guy that does
03:26 < nar588> i know, but i figured someone in here might be able to help me install a program
03:27 < davidc__> deameyes: why d'you need the source? if you just want to install it, use the installer
03:27 < davidc__> deameyes: if you want to start dev work - you should work with PZ2 which is in an SVN tree
03:29 < deameyes> I'm happy with toyin with pz1, today's the first day I came to the point of needing source code for compiling purposes so I'm not complainin
03:31 < deameyes> and amazingly enough, this was on cygwin.  I tried usin ubuntu, kubuntu, slax, and a few other os' n had a lot of problems
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03:33 < deameyes> eh well floydzilla isn't compiling, but I did build all the microwindows n things
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04:03 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/rawpod/ (10 files in 2 directories): Mac compatibility fixes by Thomas Tempelmann; much more flexible newly class-based partition support by me. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1298)
04:04 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/installer/ (5 files): Mac compatibility fixes by Thomas Tempelmann; various fixes by me for compatibility with the new partition stuff. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1299)
04:04 < josh_> tempi: ^
04:04 < josh_> (Note that "Mac compatibility" just means it'll work with WinPods on Macs, not that it'll work with MacPods)
04:12 < davidc__> wooohooo!
04:12 < davidc__> futurama is going to be back on air!
04:12 < davidc__> sorry. couldn't contain my excitement
04:12 < davidc__> [the story will hit slashdot sometime soon]
04:12 < davidc__> [its currently subscribers only
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04:37 < Virtualball> Hey, is tempel in here?
04:38 < josh_> nope, not now at least
04:38 < josh_> it's like 4am his time, he's probably asleep
04:38 < josh_> why?
04:38 < Virtualball> oh ok, I was wondering if he was going to post his intel-based toolchain
04:39 < Virtualball> would anyone else have it?
04:39 < josh_> not that I Know of
04:40 < josh_> s/K/k/
04:40 < Virtualball> oh ok, well I'll check back later, thanks
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06:05 < misfit> Hey, there any way to backup strings or copy thom from my iPod?
06:05 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/installer/ (packages.cc packages.h): Make "selected yes" in the package list be "soft"; that is, it doesn't cause other packages to change. If both pz0 and pz2 are "selected yes", then the first one supported will be used; if a pz2 module is "selected yes", it will only be selected if pz2 is (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1300)
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06:58 < tempel> tempi is awake now
06:59 < tempel> virtualball is gone
07:00 < tempel> what are strings, misfit ?
07:03 < misfit> I got that, strings are like texts in ipod
07:03 < misfit> U can change them with IpodWizard
07:03 < tempel> `spelling
07:03 < iplbot> If I see you doing any of those horrible txting abbreviations like 'u' for "you" and 'r' for "are" again, I'm going to punch you.  Hard.  Consider this to be your only warning.  [from tempel]
07:04 < tempel> i will have no idea what you refer to in particular, though
07:04 < tempel> but then, i don't know ipodwizard either
07:04 < tempel> i will -> i still
07:06 < misfit> Okay..
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08:45 < misfit> Can anyone help me a bit with ipl, i want pz and pz2 both to work, pz2 is working, i'm using nano..
08:45 < misfit> Do i have to use bleuLlama's launcher or what?
08:51 < jonrelay> Yes
08:51 < jonrelay> josh_: ping?
08:53 < misfit> Is there some tutorial in ipl forums? =)
08:53 < jonrelay> Dozens of them. Finding them is the problem... heh...
08:54 < jonrelay> josh_: In case you read this, https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/courtc/ticket/33
08:55 < misfit> I've tried several times to make triple boot(?) pz2, pz, and floydzilla, all of these has ended with pz2 not working, pz and floyd working, but not playing music..
08:56 < jonrelay> It's very tricky to get them all working together. Even I failed to do so. :/
08:56 < misfit> But a lot people have managed to do this?
08:56 < jonrelay> Supposedly.
08:57 < misfit> When pz2 gets video support? :D
08:59 < jonrelay> That'll be a while, unfortunately. 
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09:09 < tempel> misfit, grammar: when _does_ get pz2 video support
09:09 < misfit> Sorry, i'm not from England
09:10 < tempel> that's why i try to teach you
09:10 < misfit> Thanks =)
09:12 < misfit> I'll try this tutorial: http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla#Installing_from_nightlies , any suggestions before trying that?
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11:15 < Gabo> Hi there! Is possible play DivX movies on 4G iPod (iPod Photo)?
11:16 < fletch> no, the best ipl has is its own uncompressed format, check the wiki
11:17 < Gabo> Yep, I'm try it, but the movie is to large.
11:18 < fletch> uncompressed video is pretty big, yes
11:19 < Gabo> And another kind of compressed video?
11:19 < fletch> that's not a question
11:24 < polok> you could always build a divx player
11:24 < polok> and make ipod handle it :P
11:30 < Gabo> :(
11:31 < Gabo> have nice day
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13:56 < anubis8686> hi, I've problems with the mv_player, can somebody help me please?
13:57 < anubis8686> hello?
13:58 < anubis8686> is there anybody?
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14:25 < DJDUT> Hello My name is DJ, and i was wondering if the installer 2 successfully installs IPL on the 4gig nano?
14:26 < misfit> Why not?
14:26 < DJDUT> And if it plays videos from iTunes
14:27 < misfit> You have to confert the videos, and the will be like 8 times bigger, because anno don't support compressed videos
14:27 < misfit> nano*
14:27 < DJDUT> Okay
14:27 < DJDUT> does that installer work for the nano
14:28 < misfit> If u fail the installation, you can always ask for help
14:28 < DJDUT> k
14:28 < misfit> Do you have the link ?
14:28 < DJDUT> I am installing it now
14:28 < misfit> Did u restored your ipod before?
14:28 < DJDUT> yes
14:28 < DJDUT> and i backed it up
14:29 < misfit> Okay
14:29 < DJDUT> yeah
14:29 < DJDUT> What does installer 2 install?
14:30 < DJDUT> i chose that option with the nice menu interface or whatever
14:30 < misfit> loader 2?
14:30 < DJDUT> yeah sorry
14:31 < misfit> If you boot your nano, then you can choose between Apple Os and linux, automatically after 10 seconds, it chooses Apple
14:31 < DJDUT> Oh okay
14:32 < DJDUT> you know how on pz1 you could only watch so much of a video then it cut off?
14:32 < misfit> But if u dont want it, then yust launch the installer again(dont restore) and change the settings
14:32 < misfit> What do you mean exactly?
14:32 < misfit> Like stop the vide playing?
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14:32 < DJDUT> Yeah
14:32 < DJDUT> It went back to the folder
14:33 < DJDUT> Does this version do that?
14:33 < misfit> Should do i think, just press the meny button
14:33 < DJDUT> what
14:36 < tempi> misfit:
14:36 < tempi> `spelling
14:36 < iplbot> If I see you doing any of those horrible txting abbreviations like 'u' for "you" and 'r' for "are" again, I'm going to punch you.  Hard.  Consider this to be your only warning.  [from tempi]
14:37 < misfit> :D
14:37 < DJDUT> ha
14:39 < DJDUT> So do videos cut off when they are half done?
14:39 < misfit> Dont understand..
14:39 < DJDUT> Ok,
14:39 < DJDUT> i download a 30min Family Guy episode right?
14:39 < DJDUT> When its about 17 mins through it, it cuts off
14:40 < misfit> I dont know about the 17 mins, havn't tried yet
14:40 < DJDUT> ok
14:40 < DJDUT> can you?
14:41 < DJDUT> my install is only 61% complete
14:41 < DJDUT> i only have 1.1 USB ports
14:41 < DJDUT> Which sucks
14:47 < DJDUT> ive got to go if i have any ?'s ill come back
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15:03 < fabi_> hi
15:03 < misfit> Hi
15:04 < fabi_> I've a problem with the mv_player, can someone help me?
15:04 < fabi_> "cannot execute binary"
15:05 < tempi> what the heck is mv_player?
15:05 < tempi> do you use windows or linux?
15:05 < fabi_> suse linux 10.0
15:05 < tempi> you know about the "x" bit?
15:05 < tempi> you might have to set it
15:06 < fabi_> chmod +x ?
15:07 < fabi_> don't work
15:07 < tempi> then perhaps it's not an executable file at all
15:09 < fabi_> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10628&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
15:09 < fabi_> than I don't understand why others get it working
15:15 < SereR0kR> hm
15:15 < SereR0kR> tempi are you porting the installer2 to mac?
15:16 < fabi_> another question, when I compile mv_player at the end, it says "make: *** [mv_player] Fehler 1
15:16 < fabi_> "
15:16 < fabi_> what is fehler 1 (I'm using the german version)
15:17 < fabi_> or error 1
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15:24 < Chrysalid> Has there been any progress in possible ssh access to mounted iPods? :)
15:25 < tempi> SereR0kR, partly. i make it work with winpods so that i can debug it better
15:25 < tempi> Chrysalid, no
15:25 < coob> Chrysalid: why would you use ssh?
15:25 < BleuLlama> coob!
15:26 < coob> worried someone might intercept something over the usb cable?
15:26 < coob> llama!
15:26 < Chrysalid> lol
15:26 < coob> last day of uni today, woo!
15:26 < BleuLlama> woo!
15:26 < coob> i failed my first yeaar, woo!
15:26 < Chrysalid> Dunno, but it would be cool to get ssh access in winboxes without ext2 writing/read capability
15:26 < BleuLlama> woo!
15:26 < Chrysalid> lol
15:26 < erus`> the government have agps and like satalite wifi in your ipod allready! duh!
15:26 < Chrysalid> :D
15:26 < coob> Chrysalid: sounds to me like you don't know what you're talking aabout!
15:27 < Chrysalid> I don't have a foil hat :)
15:27 < tempi> BleuLlama, smoking something illegal? ;)
15:28 < fabi_> can someone compile the files from http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10628&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 and send it to me?
15:28 < tempi> fabi, in which city are you?
15:29 < fabi_> in the near of stuttgart, germany
15:29 < BleuLlama> tempi: i wish
15:29 < BleuLlama> woo!
15:29 < tempi> wee!
15:29 < fabi_> (is my english so horrible?)
15:31 < tempi> i was looking for a reason to help you but if you make it so difficult already...
15:33 < fabi_> hmm.. I'm sorry, I don't understand how I make it difficult....is there a problem to compile the files elsewhere?
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15:36 < fabi_> http://www.justgeek.de/moviepod/    <- the closer link, if that's the problem
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16:35 < camperdave> * Now talking in #ipodlinux
16:35 < camperdave> * Topic is 'http://ipodlinux.org || 4G iPods and above are UNSUPPORTED, please be clueful when asking. (p)odzilla || Messed up iPod? /msg iplbot broken || Please ask before PMing || When asking for help, please state OS and iPod generation. || Development discussion: #ipodlinux-dev || Video of Hotdog @ http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/mirror/hotdog1.mp4'
16:35 < camperdave> * Set by courtc on Thu Feb 23 21:24:42
16:36 < camperdave> sorry, just testing if my copy/past was still all hosed......
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17:16 < DJDUT> im having problems getting videos to load
17:18 < DJDUT> nevermind about that
17:18 < DJDUT> How would i get RockBox on the list for loader 2?
17:19  * jedix checks channel
17:21 < DJDUT> Hello/
17:22  * erus` smacks DJDUT over teh head with a spade!
17:23 < DJDUT> Thanks
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17:45 < messi[ah]> tempi oder tempel ?
17:49 < tempel> what's up
17:50 < messi[ah]> ich bräuchte mal deinen rat / hilfe :(
17:50 < messi[ah]> vorrausgesetzt du hast zeit
17:50 < BleuLlama> english
17:50 < tempel> #ipodlinux.de
17:50 < messi[ah]> sry
17:51 < messi[ah]> i asked tempel for some help.. got again problems with my ipod :(
17:51 < messi[ah]> this has been said by already more then thousand peoples
17:52 < messi[ah]> but i think i have broken my ipod 1st gen :(
17:53 < messi[ah]> it does not start up anymore in diskmode, doesnt boot in disk mode and seems to stop working
17:53 < messi[ah]> it just shows the apple logo and freezes
17:53 < messi[ah]> no matter what i do
17:54 < BleuLlama> the disk might have died
17:54 < messi[ah]> its so weird..
17:54 < BleuLlama> but it should boot into disk mode; hook up power and try it.
17:55 < BleuLlama> `diskmode
17:55 < iplbot> To get into disk mode, hold the keys to reboot, then immediately, when the ipod screen changes, hold these keys instead: <=3g: Fwd+Rew  >=4g: Play+Center  More info here: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651>  [from BleuLlama]
17:55 < messi[ah]> it worked today, i restored it with the appel updater
17:55 < BleuLlama> << + >>
17:55 < BleuLlama> aah. gotcha
17:55 < BleuLlama> might just be getting flaky
17:55 < messi[ah]> and then, i installed with the loader 2 ipl
17:55 < BleuLlama> my 1g still works great.
17:55 < messi[ah]> and after it finished, it doesnt work anymore..
17:55 < BleuLlama> then you installed ipl incorrectly.
17:55 < messi[ah]> podzilla (without 2) worked fine on it, but i wanted to clear it a bit up
17:55 < messi[ah]> i installed it as it is mentioned in the wiki
17:56 < BleuLlama> your hardware is not broken like you say... you just incorrectly installed.  you did something wrong
17:56 < messi[ah]> yeah, but i cant get into diskmode
17:56 < messi[ah]> and windows does not recognize it, when i connect it
17:56 < messi[ah]> thats the problem
17:56 < messi[ah]> i dont think that its broken
17:56 < messi[ah]> but i dont know what to do
17:57 < tempel> get rohpod from the wiki and use it to erase the first block on the disk
17:57 < BleuLlama> well, diskmode should work.
17:57 < davidc___> messi[ah]: what generation?
17:57 < BleuLlama> 1g
17:57 < messi[ah]> 1st
17:57 < messi[ah]> and it worked with podzilla
17:57 < messi[ah]> i just wanted to clean it up
17:58 < messi[ah]> and make a clean install
17:58 < messi[ah]> with newest podzilla
17:59 < messi[ah]> tempel, what happens if i do that ?
18:00 < messi[ah]> well, and what do i have to do if diskmode works with the key combo ?
18:00 < messi[ah]> must windows recognize it ?
18:01 < messi[ah]> if it is in disk mode ?
18:01 < BleuLlama> not if the disk is messed up
18:01 < BleuLlama> if the partition table is munged, windows won't see it as a removable disk, probably?
18:01 < BleuLlama> i don't know how windows works with removable drives, to be honest
18:01 < tempel> right, BleuLlama, that's way i said what i just wrote
18:01 < BleuLlama> yep
18:02 < tempel> way->why
18:03 < messi[ah]> yeah ok, but what does this do tempel ?
18:03 < BleuLlama> it helps fix your problem
18:03 < messi[ah]> will it then be like a blank ipod ?
18:03 < messi[ah]> well i will try that all..
18:03 < tempel> yes
18:03 < messi[ah]> must do it at a friend, cause my pc's firewire port is broken
18:03 < messi[ah]> too many trouble toda<
18:03 < messi[ah]> *today
18:08 < messi[ah]> http://ipodlinux.org/Installer_2 <- for the 1g ipod there is this little number 4.. and i followed the instructions which are given there
18:09 < messi[ah]> "Installed under advanced settings, shrink firmware, podzilla2 with all possible modules, Ipod loader, backup, and it finally works loaded fine."
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18:18 < messi[ah]> BleuLlama, you are, again, right
18:18 < messi[ah]> disk mode works now
18:18 < messi[ah]> ask me not how it could be
18:18 < messi[ah]> but now it works.
18:18 < messi[ah]> i will try to restore it step by step
18:18 < messi[ah]> also with tempels advice.
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18:33 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/installer/installer.cc: Mac fixes by Thomas Tempelmann. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1301)
18:34 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/rawpod/ (6 files): Mac fixes by Thomas Tempelmann. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1302)
18:34 < tempel> wee!
18:34 < Mengse> hello everyone! i just installed linux on my ipod nano 4g using the "Easy iPod Linux Installer". now i'm a little confused how to boot into linux. can someone give me a hand?
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18:37 < tempel> Mengse, read the "installation" wiki page
18:38 < Mengse> tempel: ahh! thx i'll see if it works...
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18:45 < Mengse> strange... it seems like i'm having the original loader but it doesn't boot up linux when pressing rewind. the apple os is right there after the press of a button. guess it's not really shutdown but in sleep mode waiting to jump right back at me when i press sth.
18:46 < tempel> in an hour or so i'll release rohpod 1.0.7 which can show you the verison of loader you have installed, for verification.
18:47 < tempel> you'll be surprised that often you'll find more than one loader present :)
18:47 < Mengse> which means?
18:47 < tempel> something
18:47 < Mengse> ^^ darn
18:49 < Mengse> but rewind should work... i don't get it can't i shut off my ipod completely so it really needs to rebbot when i press a button?
18:50 < tempel> can you make a proper sentence out of that? i can't...
18:50 < BleuLlama> nor i
18:51 < Mengse> sorry! i mean right now it's in this mode where the menu is right there after the click of a button with no apple logo on boot.
18:52 < Mengse> does this cause the original loader not to work?
18:52 < tempel> what does it show, exactly?
18:52 < Mengse> my apple firmware's main menu
18:53 < tempel> which shows what?
18:53 < tempel> text?
18:53 < Mengse> music, fotos, extras, settings
18:54 < tempel> ah
18:54 < tempel> but that's not disk mode. what are you telling us????
18:55 < Mengse> it seems i don't get it right now... i have to boot in disk mode to access linux?
18:55 < BleuLlama> this is making my head hurt.  see you all later.
18:56 < tempel> for how long are you using computers? how old are you? you talk like someone who has not even an understanding on the basic principles of how a computer works
18:56 < tempel> it's hard to help you with that
18:56 < tempel> maybe you should not be using ipodlinux at all
18:57 < tempel> you have to understand that we do not know what you see, and we can't get it if you are not making it very clear
18:58 < Mengse> yeah i know i'm a noob. sorry for asking! i'm using computers for like 8 years but i have never heard of disk mode before... since - all right - i never used linux and only windows - i tried ubuntu a while but that's all the experience i have with linux
18:58 < tempel> disk mode is nothing else than any external disk you can connect to your pc
18:59 < Mengse> well all right i understand that.
19:00 < tempel> linux is an OS that runs on your ipod. if you say "access linux", what do you mean by that?
19:00 < tempel> it's like asking "how do i access windows"
19:00 < tempel> i'd say: by starting it
19:00 < Mengse> okay! now i see your point!
19:01 < Mengse> let me just explain you how i installed linux:
19:02 < Mengse> i used Easy iPod Linux Installer and followed the instructions on the official site: http://miche.aqua-gero.com/nano/
19:02 < tempel> which is your first fault.
19:02 < tempel> we only support the official installer v2
19:03 < Mengse> the installtion worked fine... oh. so should i remove it and use installer v2? i only used the easy one because i was advised to do it in the forum.
19:04 < tempel> but even the installer v2 has still some problems, so go and try that instead and then see how far you get
19:04 < tempel> never trust the forums.
19:04 < tempel> yes, erase the ipod, start from new, and use the installer2
19:04 < tempel> _then_ we like to help you
19:05 < tempel> and save yourself some trouble and choose "loader 2" in the installer right from start
19:06 < Mengse> okay. sorry for making you deal with such questions. it's just that i followed all instructions and thought it was fine, besides i'm from germany so my english is not the best. thank you for keeping on helping me!
19:07 < tempel> kein problem
19:07 < Mengse> nein! oh man!
19:07 < tempel> englisch, bitte :)
19:07 < Mengse> wäre auch einfacher gegangen... ;
19:07 < Mengse> ;) oh for sure!
19:08 < BleuLlama> please go to #ipodlinux.de
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19:10 < bluey> su
19:10 < phlip> hi
19:11 < phlip> bluey u know much about this stuff?
19:11 < bluey> lol wrong keyboard xD
19:11 < BleuLlama> `spelling
19:11 < iplbot> If I see you doing any of those horrible txting abbreviations like 'u' for "you" and 'r' for "are" again, I'm going to punch you.  Hard.  Consider this to be your only warning.  [from BleuLlama]
19:11 < tempel> BleuLlama, could you put that into the topic, and perhaps clean out some other stuff from the channel greeting?
19:11 < phlip> anybody know how to use cgywin
19:12 < phlip> cygwin*
19:17 < phlip> is this just an idle channel
19:17 < phlip> wtf
19:18  * erus` smacks phlip over teh head with a spade!
19:18  * phlip 
19:18  * phlip feels nothing
19:18 < erus`> that could have been on one line
19:18  * phlip has no abdula oblongota
19:18 < erus`> you wasted about 15 bytes of my bandwidth that i will never get back
19:18 < erus`> thanks alot
19:18 < phlip> heh
19:19  * BleuLlama stabs himself in the leg with a scalpel
19:19  * phlip makes sure he never turns into these lame nerds
19:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=sv@*.dsl.rdbk.epix.net ] by BleuLlama
19:19 -!- phlip was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [lame eh?  well, then get help elsewhere.]
19:20 < BleuLlama> boring conversation anyway.
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19:21 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=sv@*.dsl.rdbk.epix.net ] by BleuLlama
19:21 < erus`> im not a lame nerd!
19:22 < tempel> ah, this mengse! i explain everything to him and in the end, when i figured out what he misunderstood, i asked him if a particular wiki page would have answered his question. i wanted to know if the info in there is sufficient or misleading.
19:23 < tempel> and what does he reply? thank you and good bye
19:23 < tempel> fucking germans!
19:24 < tempel> ha, coob's not here?
19:41 < tempel> weee! just had my first bleu screen while using windows for a loong time (the first bleu screen for at least a year, i'd say)
19:41 < tempel> can you tell how often i use windows?
19:43 < erus`> no
19:44 < erus`> there are more than 1 factor(s) to take into account
19:44 < erus`> *number of bluescreens *the hardware you have *the drivers *the windows build
19:44 < BleuLlama> blue*
19:44 < erus`> then you can use bertholimue's algo to work out the avaerage bluescreen rate
19:44 < tempel> you suggest that there are ppl using windows for months without a bleu screen?
19:45 < erus`> windows XP
19:45 < BleuLlama> my xp box is on all the time, and hardly ever crashes.
19:45 < BleuLlama> just saying.
19:45 < erus`> i used it allmost everyday and hvnt had one in about 1.5 years
19:45 < BleuLlama> or rather; it hasn't crashed that i've noticed anyway
19:45 < tempel> right, xp i use now. until recently i used 2000, where i had not seen bleu screens for years, probably
19:45 < BleuLlama> it used to be unstable when i had the ram overclocked a little, but it's fine naoe
19:45 < BleuLlama> tempel: blue  not bleu
19:46 < tempel> i'm parly french
19:46 < tempel> partly
19:46 < BleuLlama> heh
19:47 < tempel> and now it's writing a memory dump for 2 minutes already... should i just press the reset button?
19:47 < tempel> miore like 4 min
19:47 < erus`> i think the install unix button
19:47 < tempel> haha
19:48 < tempel> i was uisng linux when this happened - with vmware, controlled via timbuktu...
19:48 < tempel> while debugging rohPod (to stay on-topic)
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20:16 < Raion> Hi, I just installed ipodlinux on my ipod nano, but I'm kind of confused (it basically formatted my ipod, but I don't mind that since it told me)..i see nothing different, only the normal ipod with 1.6bgb instead of 2.0gb..
20:18 < Raion> by the way, i selected (or so i think) to boot ipodlinux first..
20:18 < Raion> and i tried to reset (menu+center) and then press and hold rewind to no avail..
20:24 < tempel> did you read this page: http://ipodlinux.org/Installation
20:24 < tempel> Raion, 
20:24 < tempel> ?
20:24 < Raion> um let me check
20:24 < Raion> honestly, i skimmed through it..
20:24 < tempel> that should answer your questions
20:25 < Raion> oh okay, so i only created a partition using the installer?
20:26 < tempel> ok, now there's actually a rohPod version out that works well with MacPods and on Linux: http://ipodlinux.org/RohPod
20:26 < tempel> if you run it, you can tell what loader versions you have installed (installer2 is able to install more than just one loader ... ;)
20:27 < Raion> as far as I'm concerned, I have a winpod..
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20:27 < tempel> Raion, which installer did you use?
20:27 < Raion> Installer2
20:27 < tempel> good
20:28 < tempel> then all's well, it looks
20:28 < tempel> so, what's your problem, exactly?
20:28 < erus`> http://duggmirror.com/gaming/AMAZING_Comparison_Between_Real-Life_and_the_CRYSIS_Engine/ed523ffc741a61874ba4e6cd3fad7bd4_comparison018mx4df.jpg
20:28 < erus`> sorry wrong channel :(
20:28 < Raion> well, basically i don't see podzilla or the option to choose..
20:28 < Raion> it's the normal apple OS
20:29 < tempel> but the wiki page i pointed out to you answers that question
20:29 < Raion> I read, I don't see..
20:29 < tempel> read it again more closely
20:29 < tempel> or stay away from linux :)
20:30 < Raion> http://ipodlinux.org/Installation < that one?
20:30 < tempel> right
20:30 < tempel> under "Starting iPodLinux (and Apple's)"
20:30 < tempel> if you don't understand that, then explain so we can improve the text
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20:31 < Raion> yeah, i read that..but i get none of those..
20:31 < Raion> i get the normal apple logo when it resets..
20:31 < Raion> nothing more..nothing less
20:32 < tempel> so, you know how to reboot?
20:32 < Raion> center+menu/
20:32 < Raion> ?*
20:32 < tempel> and when it reboots, you do what?
20:32 < Raion> hold rewind..
20:33 < tempel> and you hold that at what time?
20:33 < Raion> when the screen goes blank
20:33 < Raion> ?
20:33 < tempel> and let go when?
20:33 < Raion> when the menu appears again (the normal one with music..etc)
20:34 < tempel> ok. and which things appear on the screen while it boots until the apple menu appears?
20:34 < Raion> first i see the apple logo in black and white then i see the same one in color..
20:34 < Raion> then the menu appears
20:35 < tempel> the apple logo appears in color? wow. never seen that one on my video pod.
20:35 < tempel> ok, that sounds like the loader is not working
20:35 < Raion> color as in black and white still but with a white bg
20:35 < tempel> did you see my "rohpod" link above?
20:35 < Raion> yes i did
20:35 < tempel> download v1.0.7
20:35 < tempel> then use the menu: remote -> connect
20:35 < tempel> connect to the proposed address. that's my computer.
20:36 < tempel> then i can look at your ipod and see what happened
20:36 < Raion> okay one moment
20:37 < Raion> tempel.homeip.net < connect to that?
20:37 < tempel> yep
20:37 < tempel> you'll then get a few authorization questions so i can access your ipod
20:38 < Raion> okay, connected..
20:38 < tempel> don't you see my requests?
20:38 < Raion> um..no
20:39 < tempel> click the rohpod window to front
20:39 < Raion> ok
20:39 < tempel> what?
20:39 < Raion> i still don't see any requests
20:39 < tempel> damn
20:40 < tempel> let me check myself...
20:40 < tempel> did you see the disconn msgs?
20:40 < Raion> yeah
20:40 < tempel> at least that works
20:40 < Raion> "initiate outgoing connection" was i suppose to leave it at that
20:40 < Raion> or wait for incoming?
20:42 < tempel> indeed, it does not work any more. damn
20:42 < Raion> what doesn't work?
20:42 < tempel> wait, i have to fix the software first...
20:42 < Raion> okay
20:42 < tempel> could take an hour,. can you wait?
20:43 < Raion> um sure
20:43 < Raion> meanwhile, should i uninstall linux and try re-installing?
20:44 < tempel> no, wait
20:44 < Raion> okay
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20:46 < Psa> plz
20:46 < Psa> help me
20:46 < Psa> i have ipod nano 2gb
20:46 < BleuLlama> spell out your words.  `spelling
20:46 < Psa> and installed ipodlinux
20:46 < tempel> i think i fixed it, Raion, should have a working verison in < 5 minutes
20:46 < BleuLlama> nano is unsupported
20:46 < Raion> okay tempel
20:46 < Psa> but now , my ipod say -- SPLEEPING FOREVER
20:47 < BleuLlama> it's tired.
20:47 < Psa> plz
20:47 < Psa> help
20:47 < BleuLlama> SPELL OUT YOUR WORDS
20:47 < erus`> plz ZOMG my 1p0D IS LYKE BORKEN! I LYKE PUT IT IN THE SINK!
20:49 < tempel> Raion, please download the same file again now, then connect again
20:49 < Psa> but now , my ipod say -- SPLEEPING FOREVER
20:49 < Psa> help me
20:49 < Raion> okay
20:50 < Raion> connect?
20:50 < Psa> yes
20:50 < BleuLlama> psa: you really want to get on our bad side, don't you?
20:50 < tempel> ahh!
20:50 < Psa> man ..
20:50 < davidc___> Psa: Read the wiki
20:50 < Raion> it worked?
20:50 < davidc___> Psa: its really really obvious
20:51 < davidc___> Psa: the solution to your problem is VERY VERY WELL KNOWN
20:51 < erus`> does it qualify as a problem?
20:51 < Psa> i reboot my ipod
20:51 < Psa> and nothing
20:51 < Psa> =~~
20:51 < davidc___> disk mode?
20:51 < BleuLlama> Psa: do a little research, very simple research, and you'll  find your answer.  Nano is unsupported.
20:52 < Psa> omg
20:52 < BleuLlama> we're not going to hold your hand through it.
20:52 < Psa> but i went install ipod linux
20:52 < Psa> and now lost my ipod ?
20:52 < BleuLlama> you read the disclaimers.
20:52 < davidc___> Psa: No you havent!
20:52 < davidc___> Psa: ARGH
20:52 < tempel> Raion, this is interesting what i see
20:52 < davidc___> Psa: READ THE FUCKING SUPPORT DOCS. ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL THEM
20:52 < tempel> davidc__, never seen you like this :)
20:52 < Raion> What do you see?
20:53 < Psa> have solution for this problem ?
20:53 < tempel> Raion, i see that the firmware sizes are wrong. unless my rohpod makes a mistake, it indicates the problem
20:53 < BleuLlama> [   /] troll meter pegged
20:53 < Raion> What do you suggest I do?
20:53 < davidc___> tempel: yeah, you haven't been around that long
20:54 < davidc___> tempel: I used to be a lot meaner
20:54 < tempel> see yourself: select your disk in the window, "view" it, then select the "firmware" partition and view it
20:54 < davidc___> tempel: some people bring my tendancies back
20:54 < davidc___> Psa: yes, on the wiki
20:54 < davidc___> Psa: the docs tell you exactly what to do
20:54 < Psa> what is wiki ?
20:54 < tempel> ROFL
20:54 < Psa> i am noob
20:54 < davidc___> Psa: Go. Read. THe. Fucking. website
20:54 < Raion> what should be the size?
20:54 < Psa> srry
20:54 < tempel> how do ppl get to install iPL without knowing the wiki....
20:54 < davidc___> Or perhaps you've forgotten how to read along with the rest of your mental faculties?
20:54 < Psa> but i am brazilian
20:54 < BleuLlama> SPELL OUT YOUR WORDS, PSA
20:54 < Psa> =~~
20:54 < BleuLlama> last warning
20:55 < tempel> Raion, do you see a window with two lists? a wide and a half-wide?
20:55 < Raion> yeah
20:55 < davidc___> Psa: you're experiencing a very, very common problem. Thousands have recovered frmo it no problem
20:55 < tempel> what size do you see for osos1?
20:55 < Raion> 2.4gb
20:55 < davidc___> Psa: its documented very very clearly on the documentation on our site
20:55 < davidc___> *from
20:55 < tempel> right. so, there's a file of 2.4GB while your ipod has only 2GB...
20:55 < BleuLlama> if you ask again, you will be forcibly asked to leave
20:56 < tempel> meaning something went wrong there...
20:56 < Raion> yeah..
20:56 < Raion> so should i run the apple restore thing to reset my ipod?
20:56 < tempel> give me a minute, i'll think about it. do not disconnect yet
20:56 < Raion> okay
20:57 < tempel> Raion, when you installed with installer2, did you have ipl installed already from an earlier install?
20:57 < tempel> or did you run installer2 more than one time?
20:57 < Raion> no, never
20:57 < Raion> first time ever installing it..
20:58 < tempel> and which version of the installer did you have? 2.11w?
20:58 < Raion> my ipod isn't really that old, only a couple of months (since january or febuary)
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20:58 < Raion> let me check
20:58 < Raion> 2.2w
20:58 < tempel> pl
20:58 < tempel> ok
20:58 < tempel> that's the latest version
20:59 < tempel> hmm, but maybe it's just a bug in my software....
20:59 < Raion> maybe..
21:00 < tempel> but you still have a wrong behavior, so there must be something wrong ...
21:00 < Raion> yeah..
21:02 < Raion> any ideas?
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21:03 < tempel> not yet. still looking
21:03 < deameyes> ok, trying to compile microwindows and keep getting errors about no such file or directory; I got the update from cvs, anyone know of any solutions?
21:04 < BleuLlama> any particular reason you're building microwindows?  Just wondering...
21:04 < davidc___> deameyes: is this under cygwin?
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21:04 < BleuLlama> pz2 doesn't use microwindows anymore.  only pz0 whcih we're not developing anymore
21:05 < tibix> i put linux on my nano and now show this msg ... ".... NO MORE TASKS FOR INIT -- Sleeping forever --
21:05 < deameyes> yea, it is under cygwin
21:05 < erus`> tibix, did you put Pz2 on?
21:05 < BleuLlama> tibix: yes, you kept saying that before.  please read the wiki.
21:05 < tibix> erus` y
21:06 < tibix> Ble~ : What is wiki my goddD ?
21:06 < erus`> what do you mean "y" you idiot
21:06 < tibix> yes
21:06 < tibix> y=yes
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21:06 -!- tibix was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [figure it out]
21:07 < BleuLlama> he could have at least left before changing nicks.  i imagine he did that so we wouldn't think he was the same person.
21:07 < BleuLlama> idiot
21:07 < deameyes> I kno podzilla is no longer being developed, but I am unable to work on pz2 I believe
21:07 < tempel> Raion, i wrote down all the detail, have to look another time at it. you can disconn now.
21:08 < Raion> okay
21:08 < Raion> so what do i do meanwhile?
21:08 < tempel> i still don't know what caused the problem and can't tell you how to fix it. best to restore with the apple updater, then run the installer again, this time choose loader2
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21:08 < Raion> yeah, i used loader2, i think?
21:08 < deameyes> is it possible to download microwindows.a from somewhere??
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21:09 < Raion> yeah, i used loader2, i think?
21:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*i=PIMPS@200.215.122.* ] by BleuLlama
21:09 < tempel> nope, it clearly shows you had installed loader1
21:10 < Raion> oh
21:10 < tempel> well, try both options. see if any of them works
21:10 < Raion> i didn't see an option to chose which one though?
21:10 < Raion> (nevermine the ?)
21:10 < Raion> nevermind*
21:10 < tempel> if you find out more, leave me a note, e.g. mail to tempelmann at gmail.com or leave me a note on my wiki user talk apge
21:10 < tempel> page
21:10 < BleuLlama> loader 1 has no visible selection. it just checks to see if a bitton is presed
21:11 < BleuLlama> button*
21:11 < Raion> oh..
21:11 < tempel> BleuLlama, he did neither see a menu from l2 nor a picture from l1.
21:11 < tempel> yet, there's a ext2 partition with all the stuff on it, and a loader signature in the fw part
21:11 < tempel> very odd
21:12 < tempel> i wish josh_ was here now
21:12 < tempel> damn kid
21:12 < tempel> having fun elsewhere, probably
21:13 < BleuLlama> tempel: ah.  weird.
21:14 < BleuLlama> ignore me
21:18 < tempel> Raion, do you use a PC? or a Mac?
21:18 < Raion> PC
21:18 < tempel> ok
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21:23 < tempel> ok, i am out for tonight. see ya'll later!
21:24 < Raion> thanks for everthing tempel
21:24 < tempel> let me know how it goes for you. you may also leave a msg here on IRC to "tempi" - that's my alter ego who's online all time
21:24 < Raion> oh okay, will do
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22:21 < tibix> bLEU; I READED .. wiki 
22:22 < tibix> but i reboot my ipod .. and continue problem
22:22 < tibix> now stay stop in Aplle logo!
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22:31 < davidc___> tibix: are you holding the diskmode key combo?
22:31 < tibix> how ?
22:31 < davidc___> aka, reboot, as soon as it changes, holding disk mode?
22:31 < davidc___> tibix: its all on the wiki!
22:31 < tibix> i rebboty
22:31 < davidc___> and then as soon as you reboot, you hold the diskmode combo right?
22:31 < tibix> but now stay in aplle logo
22:32 < tibix> i read wiki
22:32 < tibix> i see example
22:32 < tibix> but continue with problem
22:33 < davidc___> Ok. Please confirm the following. You are pressing the reboot Combo and it reboots. Just answer yes or no
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23:13 < misfit> How to uninstall modules?
23:14 < erus`> delete em from the folder
23:15 < Leiche123> is a image file and a iso file the same thing ? 
23:16 < erus`> iso is an 'image' of a disk
23:16 < erus`> an image can be a picture
23:16 < Leiche123> img is a picture
23:17 < misfit> Modules folder is empty
23:17 < misfit> But modules are working
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