--- Log opened Wed May 17 00:00:01 2006 00:03 -!- AriX [n=ariw2003@c-69-249-216-168.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A31053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 00:16 < erus`> i was about to say it would be great to have VNC client on ipod 00:17 < BleuLlama> i'm sure glad you didn't say that 00:17 < bluetape> good thing you didn't say it 00:18 < erus`> yes :) 00:19 < AriX> lol 00:19 < AriX> vnc? 00:20 < AriX> not happening 00:21 < erus`> well it could theres justno point 00:21 < erus`> see-ing as how ipods cant conenct to networks 00:22 < erus`> yet 00:22 < AriX> well, ipods can connect to ftp 00:23 < AriX> and they can connect to telnet 00:23 < erus`> not good ipods 00:23 < AriX> if you use firewire and it's connected to the computer 00:23 < AriX> what do you mean "good" ipods 00:23 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A31053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:23 < erus`> 5g 00:23 < erus`> nano 00:23 < erus`> color 00:23 < AriX> they can do the same thing 00:24 < AriX> but it needs to be connected to a computer via firwire 00:28 < erus`> 5g has no firewire 00:28 < erus`> someone needs to make usb host driver 00:28 < erus`> or something 00:29 < AriX> oh 00:29 < AriX> i see 00:29 < AriX> your right 00:29 < AriX> sorry 00:30 < erus`> NITE!" 00:38 < AriX> ? 00:39 < BleuLlama> ! 00:53 -!- decayedcell [n=decayed_@CPE-138-217-83-42.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- AriX [n=ariw2003@c-69-249-216-168.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:10 -!- hhehw_ [n=xboxhheh@pool-68-237-33-49.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 -!- hhehw [n=xboxhheh@pool-68-237-33-49.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:25 -!- osiris0290 [n=osiris02@ool-43577a74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:28 -!- decayedcell [n=decayed_@CPE-138-217-83-42.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:31 -!- joecool|laptop [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 02:25 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:27 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:36 -!- clepple [n=clepple@dsl092-164-214.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:37 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@pool-71-255-57-89.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 02:42 -!- joecool|laptop [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:43 -!- clepple [n=clepple@dsl092-164-214.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:44 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:46 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has quit [Client Quit] 02:51 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:25 -!- kfm [n=kfm82@p54BED6F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 -!- davidc__[2]_ is now known as davidc__[2] 03:33 -!- kfm82 [n=kfm82@p54BED2C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Success] 03:53 -!- Kurcz_ [n=jeff@d57-23-232.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:05 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:19 -!- Kurcz_ [n=jeff@d57-23-232.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:20 -!- sipher [i=sipher@unaffiliated/sipher] has joined #ipodlinux 04:21 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey 04:21 < sipher> My friend has a 30 gig 4th gen video ipod.. I know 4th gen are unsupported officially.. but can he still get it to work? 04:22 < sipher> I thought I remembered someone saying it _can_ work 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> did you just say, "4th gen video iPod" ? 04:22 < sipher> I dunno if it's 4th gen. It's brand new 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> the only ones they call "video iPods" are the 5th gen 04:22 < sipher> so I assumed 4th gen 04:23 < sipher> Then the homepage is highly outdated 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> unlikely 04:23 < sipher> "Development is currently on-going on later generations of iPod, including the fourth generation ...... We are unable to provide support for these newer iPods." 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> looks good to me. 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> you're not allowed to say "......" and call it outdated. 04:24 < sipher> It just says video, nano, color, mini etc. 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> exactly? 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> point? 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> anyway, the answer is, yes, it runs on any iPod ('cept shuffle) 04:25 < sipher> The point is I cut that out so I didn't flood the channel with a huge paragraph that had a bunch of useless info 04:25 < BHSPitMonkey> try out the new installer. 04:25 -!- Blipus [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-175-101.cinci.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 04:25 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@24-50-193-176.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:25 < sipher> The point of the quote was to show that it implies 4th gen ipods are newer.. and says nothing of 5th gen 04:26 < BHSPitMonkey> http://ipodlinux.org/Installer 04:26 < sipher> thanks 04:26 < sipher> I'll tell him 04:26 < BHSPitMonkey> use at own risk 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> everything past the 3rd generation isn't officially supported, so be prepared to handle whatever unexpected happens. 04:30 < sipher> uh.. you can't uninstall? 04:30 < sipher> Does that mean you manually uninstall or..? 04:32 < sipher> Nothing he can do with the installer can brick it right? 04:32 < Mr_Milenko> "use at own risk" 04:32 < sipher> He said he's not installing it now. The "Use at your own risk" scared him :\ 04:32 < Mr_Milenko> pussy 04:33 < Mr_Milenko> :P 04:33 < sipher> He's a noob 04:33 < BHSPitMonkey> it's -always- restorable. 04:33 < BHSPitMonkey> iPods aren't software-brickable 04:33 < BHSPitMonkey> avoid swimming pools and microwaves, and he'll be fine. 04:33 < sipher> I just want him to install it so he can run iDoom and iBoy.. and then I'll cry and drool. :( 04:33 < BHSPitMonkey> worst case scenario, he has to re-transfer his music. boo hoo. 04:34 < BHSPitMonkey> meh 04:37 < sipher> Wish I had knew that before I told him the bit about his own risk.. cause I wouldn't have told him. Now he wont install it. :\ 04:37 < BHSPitMonkey> meh 04:38 < sipher> I was gonna get an ipod just for ipodLinux but it was either an ipod or a new computer so.. 04:38 < BHSPitMonkey> at the risk of his time and music. 04:38 < BHSPitMonkey> just run linux on the computer, it's equally impressive. 04:38 < BleuLlama> meaning: not at all 04:39 < sipher> I hate Linux. None of the ditros completely "just work" except maybe ones like Ubuntu.. but they're still not totaly noob friendly 04:39 < sipher> distros* 04:39 < sipher> are* 04:39 < BleuLlama> is linux supposed to be noob friendly? 04:40 < BleuLlama> i always thought it was for intelligent tinkerers 04:40 * BleuLlama shrugs 04:40 < sipher> If they want to penetrate desktop market share beyond 1% or whatever it has to be 04:40 < BleuLlama> does anyone really care about that? 04:40 < BHSPitMonkey> ... 04:40 < BHSPitMonkey> woo! market share! 04:40 * BHSPitMonkey buys 100 more shares of stock in the linux kernel 04:41 < sipher> More users == more clout for OEM == more users == more devs == better 04:41 < BHSPitMonkey> meh, screw the OEM 04:41 < BleuLlama> i don't think most devs really care how many users there are 04:41 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:41 < BleuLlama> just that they put out a good product that they're happy with 04:41 < BHSPitMonkey> the OEM has no reason to change its methods. 04:42 < BHSPitMonkey> how would manufacturers get kickbacks from shipping their computers with linux? 04:42 < sipher> Software can always be better 04:42 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@208-58-242-47.s47.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:42 < sipher> and the more users it has the more devs it will attract/create 04:42 < BHSPitMonkey> gee, it's too bad OSS never gets compiled for win32... 04:42 < BleuLlama> the more users it has, the more support the devs will have to do 04:42 < BleuLlama> so really, less work will get done 04:43 < BHSPitMonkey> and last time I checked, the topic for this channel wasn't "What's wrong with Linux?" 04:43 < BleuLlama> heh 04:43 < BleuLlama> that'd fill the channel 04:43 < sipher> nope. That's when premium support comes into play 04:43 < BHSPitMonkey> haha 04:43 < BHSPitMonkey> a premium iPodLinux support service 04:43 < BleuLlama> heh 04:43 < BHSPitMonkey> someone call Alex Turner! 04:44 < BHSPitMonkey> I see a business deal! 04:44 < sipher> Are we talking ipodLinux again? 04:44 < sipher> :\ 04:44 < BHSPitMonkey> heaven forbid. 04:48 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd56c.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 04:52 -!- sipher [i=sipher@unaffiliated/sipher] has quit ["erm.."] 04:57 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd56c.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["XChat Aqua"] 04:57 -!- quantum7 [n=quantum7@D-128-208-56-36.dhcp4.washington.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:58 < bluetape> rmh3093, I got fb ported 04:58 < Mr_Milenko> O_o 04:58 < Mr_Milenko> thats kind of pointless dontcha think? 04:59 < bluetape> what are you talking about 04:59 < courtc> haha 04:59 * BHSPitMonkey shakes courtc's hand 05:00 < courtc> umm.. hi. 05:00 < courtc> Nice to meet you. 05:01 * BHSPitMonkey is still shaking courtc's hand 05:01 < courtc> What the hell is virtualball doing? http://ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=Image:Fr-May-15.jpg 05:02 < courtc> hey. quit that shit. 05:02 * BHSPitMonkey brings new levels to "awkward" 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> I never know what the hell virtualball is doing. 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> he's like a programmer on LSD 05:03 < BHSPitMonkey> or -not- on LSD, however that works.. 05:03 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/hotdog-osx.png ours is much cooler. 05:04 < courtc> plus: http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/hotdog-prim9.png <-- we can blur n'stuff. 05:10 < BHSPitMonkey> hells yes 05:16 < bluetape> well, the good news is loader 2 2.4b9 works on my nano 05:16 < bluetape> the bad news is linux 2.6 doesn't boot 05:16 < bluetape> the status bar goes all the way right on the loader, and then the loader menu pops up again 05:27 -!- quantum7 [n=quantum7@64-40-56-45-dsl.itltd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:48 -!- newdev [n=chatzill@c-24-147-234-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 -!- newdev [n=chatzill@c-24-147-234-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 05:54 < rmh3093> bluetape: been there, keep trying :) 06:15 < bluetape> hey, whadda ya know 06:15 < bluetape> rmh3093, it turns out head-arm-ipod.S was important to port over 06:16 -!- quantum7 [n=quantum7@64-40-56-45-dsl.itltd.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:16 < bluetape> now it doesn't bounce back to the menu 06:16 < bluetape> it just sits there after it finishes loading 06:18 < bluetape> I wish there was some way to tell if the fb driver just isn't working or if something is messed up earlier in boot 06:18 < bluetape> though chances are, it's still an arch problem 06:21 < bluetape> oh, sweet 06:21 < bluetape> I got the perfect idea 06:21 < bluetape> load the ide driver, and if it butches the disk, I know it got pretty far 06:21 < bluetape> butchers* 06:33 < bluetape> bummer, looks like the disk survived 06:42 -!- _carl [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 06:56 -!- Captain_Redbeard [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:08 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has joined #ipodlinux 07:19 < bluetape> sweet! 07:19 < bluetape> thank you loader2 07:20 < bluetape> I borrowed a bit of the clicker code so I have a primitive way to check how far the code is running 07:22 -!- _carl is now known as Captain_Redbeard 07:42 -!- Tardis [n=chatzill@174.87.32.203.velocitynet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:43 -!- Tardis [n=chatzill@174.87.32.203.velocitynet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 07:48 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has joined #ipodlinux 07:51 -!- r3boot [n=r3boot@gatekeeper.nl.eu.org] has joined #ipodlinux 08:08 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has quit ["Quitte"] 08:16 < tempel> check this out: http://www.pvponline.com/ 08:42 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has joined #ipodlinux 08:43 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@254.22.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 09:05 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@208-58-242-47.s47.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:09 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:26 -!- kfm is now known as kfm82 09:59 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has quit ["Quitte"] 10:07 -!- Captain_Redbeard [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:20 -!- haren [i=haren@c-3652e353.123-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 10:25 -!- acs [n=acs@213.171.250.238] has joined #ipodlinux 10:28 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@208-58-242-233.s233.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:17 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 12:21 -!- newdev [n=chatzill@c-24-147-234-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:24 -!- acs [n=acs@213.171.250.238] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:53 -!- Captain_Redbeard [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 < newdev> hello, this is a test of chatzilla 13:03 < Lez> ok 13:12 -!- Bjehsus [n=bjehsus@cpc1-fare1-0-0-cust74.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:12 -!- Bjehsus [n=bjehsus@cpc1-fare1-0-0-cust74.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:16 < erus`> http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2006/pvp20060516.gif 13:19 -!- newdev [n=chatzill@c-24-147-234-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 13:25 < Captain_Redbeard> Ok, here comes a question that might seem retarded... But do I need to partition the ipod before running the installer v2 because all it tells me is that it can not find any ipod and the console output is MBR an not be read 13:28 < Captain_Redbeard> no one here to give ahelping hand? 13:29 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has joined #ipodlinux 13:32 < Captain_Redbeard> humm humm? 13:36 < BleuLlama> forgot the words? 13:40 < Captain_Redbeard> Pretty please? :) 13:40 < BleuLlama> no... you were humming. people hum when they forget the words 13:41 < Captain_Redbeard> Ah :) 13:42 < Captain_Redbeard> Now that I've got a hold of another user... maybe you know the answer to my question? I'm trying to run the installer from my Linux box. But it can not find my ipod :p 13:42 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has quit ["Quitte"] 13:43 < BleuLlama> i don't use linux. can't help ya. 13:45 < Captain_Redbeard> Ah ok 13:45 < Captain_Redbeard> thanks anyway 13:46 < Captain_Redbeard> a bit pissy that it refuses to fin it even though it is in disk mode and plugged in and everything 13:47 < BleuLlama> sounds like your desktop machine is misconfiugured. look around for "using ipods on linux boxes" support. it's kinda outside of the scope of this channel 13:47 < Captain_Redbeard> No no, it works fine on my machine 13:47 < Captain_Redbeard> it automounts it and it works in rythmbox and all 13:49 < Captain_Redbeard> carl@kubuntu-server:/opt/iPodLinux$ lsusb 13:49 < Captain_Redbeard> Bus 005 Device 010: ID 05ac:120a Apple Computer, Inc. 13:49 < Captain_Redbeard> all is fine... 13:49 < BleuLlama> stop telling me. i don't know 13:50 < Captain_Redbeard> Ah sorry, I'm just spamming off my frustration I guess :) 13:56 -!- Captain_Redbeard [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 13:58 -!- chrissis [n=chrissis@pD9506BA1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 13:58 < chrissis> hi 14:01 -!- Captain_Redbeard [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 14:01 < Captain_Redbeard> :'( 14:02 < Captain_Redbeard> And no one here to help still? 14:03 < Captain_Redbeard> I guess it is a bug then 14:03 < Captain_Redbeard> So I better send a report about it 14:11 -!- modin [n=modin@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:13 -!- modin [n=modin@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:15 < BleuLlama> or ask in the forums, or wait around a bit. 14:29 < flynux> maybe it'd work better as root ? 14:30 < Captain_Redbeard> haha 14:30 < Captain_Redbeard> of course I ran it as root 14:30 < Captain_Redbeard> or with sudo rather 14:30 < Captain_Redbeard> canät run X programs as root... running ubuntu here at work 14:34 < BleuLlama> i think the installer(x-app) needs to be run as root, actually 14:42 < Captain_Redbeard> yea but running it with sudo ./installer is as running it as root 14:43 -!- acs [n=acs@213.171.250.238] has joined #ipodlinux 14:51 -!- chrissis [n=chrissis@pD9506BA1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:58 -!- philhans [n=philip@static-66-182-95-51.bbsc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:59 < Captain_Redbeard> still no one? 15:01 -!- wdc [n=togst1@80.239.19.83] has joined #ipodlinux 15:01 -!- wdc [n=togst1@80.239.19.83] has quit [Client Quit] 15:03 -!- wdc [n=togst1@80.239.19.83] has joined #ipodlinux 15:04 -!- wdc [n=togst1@80.239.19.83] has quit [Client Quit] 15:08 < BleuLlama> you waited 10 minutes. give it a few hours 15:12 < Captain_Redbeard> :D 15:18 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.165.158] has joined #ipodlinux 15:28 < erus`> i thought of a really great app to port today 15:28 < erus`> buti bloody forgotten allready 15:54 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-8042.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:59 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-8042.bb.online.no] has quit [Client Quit] 15:59 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-8042.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-8042.bb.online.no] has left #ipodlinux [] 16:04 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.165.158] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:05 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.165.158] has joined #ipodlinux 16:06 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.165.158] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:24 -!- Enk [n=chatzill@h185n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:42 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:44 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.165.158] has joined #ipodlinux 16:44 < Kurcz> hey,I have a usb plug that plugs into my sterio, how can I get linux to use that as my output? 16:49 < jedix> what? 16:55 -!- newdev [n=chatzill@c-24-147-234-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:59 < Enk> i think he want's to send music trough the usb instead of 3.5mm jack 17:01 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-82-14-30-246.brhm.adsl.tesco.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 -!- bluetape [n=bluetape@host-24-225-148-91.patmedia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:05 -!- acs [n=acs@213.171.250.238] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 17:09 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 < tempi> erus`, are you a regular reader of that comic strip? i like it very much 17:24 -!- haren [i=haren@c-3652e353.123-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 17:29 < erus`> err? 17:29 < erus`> what comic? 17:30 < erus`> ah, i thought it was a one off 17:30 < tempel> the cartoon, of which you posted the link 17:30 < BleuLlama> player vs. player 17:31 < tempel> yep, that one. PVP 17:31 < tempel> today's a bit nasty, though. usually he's more funny and politically correct 17:31 < BleuLlama> http://pvponline.com/ 17:33 < tempel> and he has quite the ego. talks all the time about what he's doing in his blog... but the cartoons i usually like very much 17:33 < tempel> ok, enough off topic. 17:33 < tempel> anyone with a photo ipod here? 17:33 < BleuLlama> that's what blogs are for. you talk about stuff you're doing. i never read comic writer's blogs though. 17:34 < tempel> i know blogs that talk about other things, not just their ego talking 17:34 < tempel> whatever 17:34 -!- Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:35 * tempel tries to shrug like bleullama does 17:36 < erus`> 90% of blogs are just plain boring 17:36 < erus`> 80% of people are rubbish at math, but the other 30% are great 17:36 < tempel> lol 17:41 < courtc> 10% of people don't exist. 17:45 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has joined #ipodlinux 17:47 < tempel> wow, i just learned that if your hands smell of onions, you can gets the smell off by washing your hands with a piece of stainless steel under water - no soap involved. did you know? 17:49 < BleuLlama> yep. or just rub your hands on the sink, if it's stainless 17:49 < tempel> cool. my mom never taught me... 17:51 < courtc> Doesn't work for me.. :( 17:52 < courtc> The only thing that does work is white vinegar + soap. But then I go around with my hands smelling like vinegar for a couple days. 17:53 < courtc> The best method I've found is to get someone else to chop the onions. 17:54 < Eamon> guys there's no mods logged in on the ipl forums, could one of you delete this spam thread please? http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=97059#97059 17:56 -!- bluey- [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-126-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:04 -!- Administrator [n=chatzill@Tff03.t.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:04 < Administrator> hiho 18:04 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd224.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:04 < tempel> hi admin - good choice of name :) 18:04 < Administrator> oh srz 18:05 < Administrator> i will change it 18:05 < tempel> wiebidde? 18:05 < tempel> sry? wrong kbd setting? 18:05 < Eamon> wat? 18:05 -!- Administrator [n=chatzill@Tff03.t.pppool.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:06 < tempel> he's german, and german kbds have a z where us kbds have a y 18:06 -!- Gluby [n=chatzill@Tff03.t.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:06 < Gluby> sö 18:06 < tempel> h?h? 18:06 < Gluby> ! 18:07 < Gluby> tempel where are you from? 18:07 < tempel> munich 18:07 < Gluby> kowl 18:07 < Gluby> sag mal kennst du dich vielelicht etwas mit dem lustigen linux aus? 18:08 < tempel> nope, i am a mac user 18:08 < BleuLlama> please keep it english in here 18:08 < BleuLlama> take it to #ipodlinux.de or somesuch 18:08 < Gluby> k sorry 18:08 < Gluby> ok i will try it in english 18:09 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 18:10 < flynux> eh german keyboards are the best :) 18:10 < Gluby> i installed the ipodlinux witz this setup from the page.. i installed the bootloader 2, too but now my ipod dont work after booting the apple firmwire an touching the wheel 18:11 < tempel> which ipod model, which loader version, exactly? 18:13 < Gluby> its on a g5 i know its unsoported but i want to rty. i dont know the version i think its the latest because this setup loads the latest 18:13 < tempel> the version of the loader is shown when the loader starts on the ipod. read it 18:13 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:14 < Gluby> ok thanks is 2.3 18:16 < tempel> btw: http://www.macminicolo.net/ 18:16 < tempel> aha, 2.3 is a bit ... well, not the latest 18:17 < tempel> see if you can install this, that should solve it: http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2_Testing 18:18 < Gluby> hm i have to overwrite the files right? 18:18 < tempel> files? what files? 18:19 < Gluby> i mean the loader file 18:19 < tempel> well, read the wiki page. 18:20 < Gluby> ok i will test it see you later 18:26 -!- Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 18:27 < veteran> tempel: 50gb bandwidth? that's... horrible for that price. 18:28 < tempel> you mean the mac mini colo? but it's a mac! 18:28 < tempel> :) 18:28 < tempel> it's actuallly _your_ mac 18:28 < tempel> you send it there, they install it watch it. i know the guy who runs it... that's why i felt i have to mention it 18:29 < veteran> ah alright, i won't mention his competitors then ;) 18:29 < tempel> i pay $60 here in germany for a share on a 2mbit line. _that's_ horrible 18:29 -!- r3boot [n=r3boot@gatekeeper.nl.eu.org] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:29 < tempel> do you know of mac colocations? 18:29 < courtc> move to florida, the bastards. or calif 18:30 * BleuLlama has a mac on a 1gig net connection for free. :} 18:30 < courtc> florida == 40mbit for $40, san fran == free citywide wireless. 18:30 < veteran> courtc: link? 18:30 < veteran> cite your sources ;) 18:31 < courtc> Oh, I'd have to look. What are you more interested in fla or sf? 18:31 < erus`> pfff america 18:31 < veteran> fla, have a relative there who might be willing to let me setup a few 42u racks in his garage 18:31 < tempel> i could have a fast line at my university, but they block DNS and some other ports. and i like to run my own NS server. 18:32 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:32 < tempel> i'd be intersted in the SF location, as I have even a mailing address and phone there :) 18:33 < flynux> the cheaper is to get a sys/netadmin job at an ISP ;) 18:33 < Eamon> more spam guys... http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11447 18:34 < veteran> Eamon: thanks 18:35 < courtc> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/06/google_sf_muni_wifi/ 18:39 < courtc> Alright, I can't find a link for florida. I could be wrong, after all my source *was* a floridian. 18:42 < Gluby> huh? "ipodpatcher will refuse to acess a disk unless it can identify it as being an ipod" ? 18:43 < tempel> yes, so what 18:43 < Gluby> i wanted to start ipodpatcher -r 18:43 < tempel> and? 18:43 < Gluby> but i only got this message 18:44 -!- bluey- [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-126-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:45 < tempel> i think you do something wrong. read the wiki page 18:45 < tempel> again 18:45 -!- haren [i=haren@c-3652e353.123-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:45 < tempel> or see the rockbox install page which should be linked there somewhere 18:45 < haren> Captain_Redbeard aer du haer? 18:46 < Gluby> ok 18:48 -!- bluetape [n=bluetape@host-24-225-148-91.patmedia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:51 < SereR0KR> any know how to get the encyclopedia PZ2 Module running 18:51 < SereR0KR> anyone* 18:59 < Gluby> when i follow the wiki tut i always get the Error: Diskno is the number (e.g. 2) Windows has assigned to your ipod's hard disk. The first hard disk in your computer (i.e. C:\) will be disk0 the next disk will disk 1 etc. ipodpatcher will refuse to acess a disk unless it can identify it as being an ipod by using ipodpatcher -r 2 but ipodpatcher 2 works 19:00 < tempel> would you please use " ... " so that i can tell what you quote as the error msg and what is your text? 19:00 -!- rconan [n=richard@client-82-14-30-246.brhm.adsl.tesco.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:00 < Gluby> k one moment 19:01 < Gluby> when i follow the wiki tut i always get the Error: "Diskno is the number (e.g. 2) Windows has assigned to your ipod's hard disk. The first hard disk in your computer (i.e. C:\) will be disk0 the next disk will disk 1 etc. ipodpatcher will refuse to acess a disk unless it can identify it as being an ipod" by using "ipodpatcher -r 2" but "ipodpatcher 2 works" 19:02 -!- newdev [n=chatzill@c-24-147-234-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 19:02 < tempel> that's five "s. a quote has to have one at the beginning and one at the end 19:03 < tempel> oh, no. i see 6 now 19:03 < tempel> why do you quote "ipodpatcher 2 works"? 19:03 < tempel> how old are you? 19:04 < courtc> Probably not as ancient as you tempel. 19:04 < Gluby> hm 15 an not a skilled chatter xD 19:05 < tempel> pay more attention in school then :) That Deutschunterricht should have taught you how to quote... 19:05 < tempel> oh well. 19:05 < tempel> so, it seems you use the wrong number then 19:05 -!- rconan [n=richard@82.14.30.246] has joined #ipodlinux 19:05 < Gluby> but i am sure it is the right one because when ich check it i get the right partitions 19:05 < tempel> what is "-r" supposed to do anyways? 19:06 < tempel> you check that how? 19:07 < tempel> let me try that myself on my PC... hold a minute. 19:07 < Gluby> hm when is use "ipodpatcher 2" i see the partitions of 2 19:12 < tempel> ok, i see that now, too 19:12 < Gluby> oh oh sorry I made a mistake 19:12 < tempel> thought so. missed the filename at the end, right? 19:12 < Gluby> yes 19:18 -!- bluey- [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-067-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:26 < tempel> so, Gluby, does it work now? 19:27 < Gluby> hm 19:27 < Gluby> yes but when i finished i became this support error on my ipod 19:28 < Gluby> i will format an try the instalation from the beginning 19:28 < tempel> haha. not "become" - that means in german: werden 19:29 < tempel> i need to say "i get" instead 19:29 < Gluby> ok 19:29 < Gluby> my englis is bad^^ 19:29 < tempel> i just tried the instructions for loader_2 myself. they work if you get the model code right. you did your "5g" ? 19:29 < Gluby> yes 19:29 < tempel> corection: you did use "5g"? 19:29 < tempel> ok 19:30 < tempel> should have worked. worked for me. 19:30 < tempel> just read those instructions once again. no need to re-install. 19:30 < Gluby> ok 19:40 -!- wdc [n=togst1@80.239.19.83] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 < wdc> how do i get the idoom to work on my 5g ipod? 19:44 < rconan> what problem are you having? 19:44 < rconan> make 19:44 < rconan> sorry 19:44 < rconan> wrong window 19:45 -!- des [n=des@81-86-117-253.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 < Gluby> i think you have only to start the file in the file browser 19:45 < des> hey guys 19:45 < wdc> i dont have a "hp" folder in the file browser 19:45 < rconan> try mnt 19:46 < rconan> ls 19:46 < rconan> damn wrong window again 19:46 < des> i tried to install ipodlinux and it went wrong and now my ipod's completely dead, but i can't follow the disk mode advice as the batteries are dead and i can't even connect it to the mains to charge 19:46 < des> and my computer won't detect it all 19:46 < rconan> if you cant charge it your screwed 19:46 < des> have i any hope of getting it working it again 19:46 < wdc> i found a idoom in "mnt" but cant run the idoom file :( 19:46 < rconan> you need to plug it in 19:46 < rconan> why? 19:46 < des> nothing happens when i plug it in though 19:47 < rconan> to the mains? 19:47 < courtc> des: wow. good job. you now have a $200+ paperweight. 19:47 < des> that's shit 19:47 < rconan> why cant you plug it into the mains? 19:48 < des> i can, but it doesn't do anything 19:48 < rconan> absolutely nothing? 19:48 < des> no 19:48 < josh_> have you leaved it plugged in for a few minutes? 19:48 < des> yeah 19:48 < rconan> not even an apple logo on the screen? 19:48 < des> initially after it happened i had the apple logo and it crashed straight after, but wouldn't charge. since then i guess the battery has died, and now i can't charge it 19:49 < rconan> plugging it into the mains should make it try to boot 19:49 < rconan> at which point you should be able to select disk mode and leave it to charge 19:50 < courtc> If it does nothing you may want to try unplugging and replugging the battery. 19:51 < des> right 19:51 < wdc> i found the idoom folder in the mnt folder, but cant run the idoom file, whats wrong? 19:51 < hyarion> wdc: you can't run it on 5g 19:51 < courtc> hyarion: where the hell did you come from? 19:51 < hyarion> and you can't run it through the browser 19:52 < hyarion> :) 19:52 < wdc> damn, wait until its a supported version of podzilla then? 19:52 < des> oh great i've managed to get it on through the mains 19:52 < courtc> /hilight idoom ? 19:52 < des> thanks rconan 19:52 < hyarion> courtc: thanks 19:53 < josh_> hyarion: btw, as of yesterday you have iplbot listening privileges 19:53 < courtc> I'm confused. 19:53 < hyarion> yes I saw that :) 19:53 < wdc> any who knows when its gonna come a supported version of podzilla for 5g ipod? :P 19:54 < courtc> Supported? 2016 19:54 < courtc> March. 19:54 < wdc> march 2016?! 19:54 < hyarion> courtc: is it possible to run files from the browser now? 19:55 < courtc> hyarion: well, not in a new VT 19:55 < hyarion> well that's the problem :/ 19:55 < courtc> Execute-> Background works though. 19:55 < des> :D 19:55 -!- des [n=des@81-86-117-253.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [] 19:56 < courtc> hyarion: hd<->ttk should fix it, which should happen RSN 19:56 < wdc> hmm, maby i should buy a nano ipod :P then i can play idoom xD 19:58 < hyarion> wdc: that would work too 19:59 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 20:00 < wdc> hmm, maby i should just wait some weeks and see if its a version of podzilla for 5g ipods then :) 20:01 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:01 < hyarion> wdc: but it is possible to play 20:01 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:01 < wdc> i cant run the idoom file :( 20:01 < hyarion> you just need me to release the 5g version 20:02 < hyarion> the only thing you have to do is to find someone with an ipod color to test it on first ;) 20:03 < wdc> okay =) 20:04 < hyarion> or convince me to release it anyway :P 20:04 < courtc> option 1, choose option 1 20:05 < wdc> cant u release a beta version?:) 20:05 < BleuLlama> `spelling 20:05 < iplbot> spelling is If I see you doing any of those horrible txting abbreviations like 'u' for "you" and 'r' for "are" again, I'm going to punch you. Hard. Consider this to be your only warning. [from BleuLlama] 20:06 < wdc> what? a spelling warning :P 20:06 < erus`> txt abriviAshun iz lyk wel gd lyk! 20:06 < BleuLlama> ... 20:08 < wdc> im used to use the bad spelling (i play world of warcraft) =) 20:08 < BleuLlama> well, we're used to people being literate in here. adapt. 20:09 < wdc> yeah, ill try :) 20:09 < courtc> exposure to an illiterate culture is no excuse. 20:09 -!- rconan [n=richard@82.14.30.246] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:11 < wdc> i must start to use linux on my pc.. windows suck sometimes :( 20:13 < erus`> is there an english standard? 20:14 < erus`> like a propper one? 20:14 < davidc__[2]> erus`: yes - its the one we speak 20:14 < erus`> linux / open source english standard 20:14 < erus`> well actually some of your spellings are void here in old blighty 20:16 * BleuLlama pranged his kite right in the how's your father 20:17 < bluey-> will we ever see VMWare or Xen on ipodlinux :) ? 20:17 < courtc> We accept EU and US English, but try to minimalize colloquialisms. 20:17 < davidc__[2]> bluey-: no, no we wont 20:17 < bluey-> ;) 20:17 < davidc__[2]> and after the xen hell I've been going thru in the alst few days, I hope I never will have to again! 20:19 < erus`> apple are gonna bring out the ipod 6g - it has a dvd drive built in so you can watch those dvd's on the move 20:19 < erus`> and it fits in your (hoddie front) pocket 20:19 < courtc> XenOS ;) 20:20 < wdc> well, im leaving now, see you guys later :) 20:20 -!- wdc [n=togst1@80.239.19.83] has quit [] 20:20 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:23 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:32 -!- bluey- [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-067-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:33 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 20:48 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3057C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 -!- Gluby [n=chatzill@Tff03.t.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:53 -!- aegray___ [n=aegray@74.136.221.228] has joined #ipodlinux 20:54 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3057C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:59 -!- virtualball3 [n=virtualb@AC82AF6F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:59 < virtualball3> Hey, is it possible to load a module...inside a module? 20:59 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 < BleuLlama> yep. but you can also jsut define a dpendency in the Module file, which is probably the better way to go... unless the functionality is optional... 21:01 < virtualball3> how would I do that though? I mean, if you have checked the forums recently i made a front row module but it doesnt do anything but spin to the next icon, what function would I use to load the module? 21:04 < BleuLlama> did you use hotdog to render it? 21:04 < BleuLlama> (curious) 21:04 < BleuLlama> if you look in core/module.c (i think) in the pz2 source, you'll find what you're looking for 21:04 < virtualball3> no, it doesnt spin really, thats very v 2 when i care enough :P 21:05 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:05 < courtc> virtualball3: you realize that we already have a very good frontrow likeness in hotdog? 21:05 < BleuLlama> yeah. it's done, animates, has reflections, etc. 21:05 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:05 < virtualball3> ya but it isnt for pz2, is it? 21:06 < virtualball3> and it isnt for ALL iPods, is it? (i dont know, sorry :P ) 21:06 < virtualball3> It was a request in the forums so i just did it 21:06 < BleuLlama> well, hotdog is shaping up to be the new backend for pz2... or you could make a module for pz2 that uses hotdog, and you'd be done. 21:07 < virtualball3> but i dont know hotdog and havent built it, so maybe in a later version :P 21:07 * virtualball3 is a lazy person 21:07 < courtc> You're taking the wrong route to be lazy. 21:08 < BleuLlama> but.... the work is done... to get hotdog working within pz2 would be less work than you're doing right now. you're doing it the hard way 21:08 < davidc__[2]> virtualball3: heh... you definitely want to use hotdog 21:08 < davidc__[2]> its already got the hand optimized blit routines, all those things that you should be using 21:08 < virtualball3> ill try hotdog after i get this one to load modules first, OK? 21:08 * BleuLlama gives up 21:08 < virtualball3> lol 21:09 < virtualball3> it sounds like you guys are selling me a timeshare :D 21:09 < josh_> courtc: haha 21:11 < Eamon> `spelling 21:11 < josh_> virtualball3: *why* do you want to load a module from w/in a module? 21:11 < courtc> virtualball3: perhaps you can see why: http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/hotdog-osx.png http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/mirror/hotdog1.mp4 21:11 < virtualball3> josh_, cuz i made front row (w/o hotdog :D ) 21:11 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:12 < josh_> virtualball3: you didn't answer my question. 21:12 < josh_> why do you want to load a module from within a module? 21:12 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 < davidc__[2]> virtualball3: no, we just want you to do things the right way :P 21:12 < virtualball3> so i cn\an load the mpd mdule when music is selected and the photo module when photos is selected 21:13 < virtualball3> thanks davidc__[2] 21:13 < BleuLlama> ... 21:13 < courtc> umm... 21:13 < josh_> virtualball3: and why can't they just be loaded when pz2 starts, like with everything else? 21:13 < BleuLlama> but... they're already loaded. 21:13 < josh_> virtualball3: you're determined to ignore our advice. it's your loss. 21:13 < virtualball3> what josh_? 21:14 < davidc__[2]> virtualball3: why load things on the fly? 21:14 < davidc__[2]> why not just load the code all at once? 21:14 < virtualball3> and im not determined to ignore your advice, I just want to finish my version, then ill use front row 21:14 < davidc__[2]> code takes no space 21:14 < virtualball3> maybe i should 21:14 * BleuLlama just sits back and watches. 21:14 < virtualball3> BTW, yours looks A LOT better then mine :D 21:15 < virtualball3> http://ipodlinux.org/images/7/78/Fr-May-15.jpg 21:15 < josh_> virtualball3: we've been giving you advice for fifteen minutes. you haven't done anything but argue with it. have you considered the possibility that we just might know wtf we're talking about? 21:15 < josh_> (well, maybe not argued with it, but ignored it certainly) 21:16 < virtualball3> i havent ignored it, ill just make it in hotdog once i can make it do something 21:16 < davidc__[2]> virtualball3: thats because we've spent a lot of time on hotdog 21:16 < virtualball3> davidc__[2], ya i can see and it looks very nice :) 21:17 < Eamon> hyarion: I'm starting a thread in development requests for people with photo/colour ipods to test the new iDoom. Could you post/IM me a link please? 21:17 < virtualball3> fine, ill rewrite it in hotdog now. I was always gunna rewrite it, but just not at the moment 21:19 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:19 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 < virtualball3> where can i find hotdog? 21:23 < BleuLlama> right next to podzilla2 21:23 < BleuLlama> and ttk 21:24 < virtualball3> oh lol 21:24 < virtualball3> thanks 21:24 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:26 -!- virtualball3 [n=virtualb@AC82AF6F.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["virtualball3 has no reason"] 21:33 < hyarion> Eamon: it's only needed on color 21:33 < hyarion> and it's enough with one persion 21:35 < Eamon> ok I got the impression from - "hyarion: the only thing you have to do is to find someone with an ipod color to test it on first" that testers were needed 21:36 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@pool-71-246-114-158.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 -!- Gluby [n=chatzill@Tff03.t.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:44 < Gluby> tempel? 21:44 < tempel> yup 21:44 < tempel> any luck? 21:44 < Gluby> it works =) 21:44 < tempel> ah. how did you fix it 21:44 < tempel> what went wrong first time 21:45 < tempel> let's do it in a chat. wait 21:45 < Gluby> i am not sure i made the hole instalation new and now it works 21:45 < tempel> whole 21:45 < Gluby> ^^ 21:45 < tempel> do you see my other msg to you? 21:48 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:49 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:50 -!- Gluby [n=chatzill@Tff03.t.pppool.de] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 21:51 < tempel> josh_, looks like when Gluby used installer2, he got into problems because he had used the option to install loader2. After that, when i tried to install laoder 2.4 manually, the ipod would not boot at all into loader any more. Then he redid the install from scratch, using loader1 in installer2, and then he could do the 2.4 install manually and it worked 21:53 -!- megabenman [n=chatzill@d150-196-225.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:54 < megabenman> what the hell 21:54 -!- megabenman [n=chatzill@d150-196-225.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:55 -!- megabenmanreal [n=chatzill@d150-196-225.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:56 -!- megabenmanreal [n=chatzill@d150-196-225.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 < Eamon> more spam guys: look at the period after "everyone" it links to a viagra site http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=97209#97209 21:57 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:04 -!- davidc__[2] [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:05 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:06 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 22:10 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:10 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 -!- manuka [n=anthony@kraon.lands.gov.vu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:16 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 22:16 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:18 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has quit [Client Quit] 22:20 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:20 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3057C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has quit [Client Quit] 22:22 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:22 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 22:23 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has joined #ipodlinux 22:25 < Eamon> Yeeeeeees!! I solved my mysterious ipod not mounting right problem! It had to do with mepis's mounting rules which I altered to suit my needs! (What way were you pointing me towards with fstab BleuLlama?) 22:27 < manuka> did someone fill in the 'ipod nano' thing 22:31 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 22:31 < tempel> what? where? 22:32 < manuka> kind of a survey on your living 22:32 < Eamon> you'll have to be more specific, where is this survey? 22:33 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 22:33 < manuka> i already forgot the actual site but I know the pop-ups is in one of the joke sites (maybe 'officejokes.com' 22:34 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3057C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:34 < manuka> they ask a hundred question 22:36 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has joined #ipodlinux 22:48 -!- decayedcell [n=decayed_@CPE-138-217-83-42.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 22:56 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:00 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:02 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:02 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:05 < Eamon> Anyone know a good program for adding songs to the apple OS on a 5g for linux? I tried Amarok but it fscked up the iTunesDB. All the artists dissappeared and about a quater of my songs appeared under music videos :-$ 23:05 < decayedcell> xD 23:05 < decayedcell> i can't get Amarok to work with my AV-710 23:05 < decayedcell> :( 23:06 < Eamon> Yeah it cant read tags on AAC files either... 23:07 < courtc> gtkpod 23:09 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:09 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:13 < Eamon> Is is DB v.6 compatible? 23:14 < Eamon> Is it DB v.6 compatible? 5g uses a new db 23:19 < courtc> Can someone check the wiki for me? I'm getting something abnormal. 23:20 < rmh3093> where should i look 23:20 < courtc> anywhere 23:20 < rmh3093> the main page looked ok 23:21 < decayedcell> looks fine to me 23:21 < courtc> ok, must be something on my end. 23:21 < decayedcell> ye i have problems with SVN on my end :( 23:21 < courtc> ah, bad cache. 23:21 < decayedcell> me? 23:21 < decayedcell> how do i clear it 23:22 < courtc> No, for me 23:22 < courtc> Your problem is that you don't live in china 23:22 < decayedcell> well 23:22 < decayedcell> i have other friends that can access it 23:22 < decayedcell> and some can't 23:22 < decayedcell> oO 23:23 < courtc> Yea, there must be a routing problem somewhere. 23:23 < rmh3093> i can acces it and im not from china ;) 23:24 < decayedcell> yea thats the thing 23:24 < decayedcell> i have friends here in Australia that can access it 23:24 < decayedcell> and it was working like last week 23:25 < decayedcell> apparently they just upgraded to SVN 1.31 23:29 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:30 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:32 -!- Eamon [n=Eamon@83.147.152.42] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 23:38 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:38 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:39 -!- manuka [n=anthony@kraon.lands.gov.vu] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:43 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:49 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:55 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:55 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 23:56 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d38-200-143.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:59 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3057C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Thu May 18 00:00:00 2006