--- Log opened Fri Apr 21 00:00:01 2006 00:00 < abeyance> That a good book for beginners? 00:00 < courtc> It was a good book for the beginning of C. 00:00 < BHSPitLappy> no, it's for teaching C to those who already have mastered C. 00:01 < courtc> bah, humbug. 00:01 < abeyance> Damn. 00:03 < courtc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_programming_language <-- Not a good place for learning about C 00:03 < abeyance> lol 00:05 < courtc> Should have been called P, but I guess there's already some symbolism of a P language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_programming_language 00:06 < courtc> L too 00:07 < NsN> Good night everybody 00:07 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 00:08 -!- NsN [i=Gaspode@wh282.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:18 -!- DJDutrow [n=madlilbo@67-137-10-79.bras01.cha.wv.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:20 -!- DJDutrow [n=madlilbo@67-137-10-79.bras01.cha.wv.frontiernet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:23 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 00:23 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:27 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-72-226-234-114.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 00:42 -!- wasan [n=wasan@ip70-178-95-216.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:43 < wasan> i need help getting ipodlinux to work with the ipod nano 00:46 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-810351f1ca7f634d] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:46 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-99dcd3fdba380a69] has joined #ipodlinux 00:54 < wasan> hle,kor5ml; 00:54 < wasan> ?? 00:54 < wasan> ? 00:54 -!- wasan [n=wasan@ip70-178-95-216.ks.ks.cox.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:57 < davidc__[2]> josh_: here? 00:57 < BHSPitLappy> no, there 00:57 < BHSPitLappy> here later 00:59 < davidc__[2]> ? 01:03 < josh_> davidc__[2]: yes 01:03 < abeyance> Ok. Break time. 01:07 -!- Inc [i=xsst4@arcane/developer/inc] has quit [""changing servers""] 01:13 -!- maiden [n=icechat5@host-194-46-253-15.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:14 < maiden> Hi just wondering what iPod Linux OS I should use to play my AAC music collection, or is there any? 01:22 < BleuLlama> if you want the songs to sound nice and clean, with a good interface, use apple's os 01:22 < BleuLlama> if you want extra games, and an alternate interface, and like to tinker, go for ipl 01:22 < BHSPitLappy> woah... I've never met regular maiden before 01:22 < BHSPitLappy> only familiar with the ferrous one 01:23 < maiden> My full online nick is usually maiden30403 01:23 < maiden> Anyway so is podzilla the best option? 01:27 < maiden> Sorry for being an idiot I got it working:) 01:28 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:29 -!- ATravelingGeek [n=atg@38.99.4.158] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 < maiden> Ok another stupid q. can I get firewire to work when booting IPL 01:31 < BleuLlama> there's no firewire or usb support while ipl is running 01:31 < maiden> So have to boot up the official apple os for that? 01:31 < BleuLlama> yep 01:31 < BleuLlama> or just boot diskmode 01:32 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:32 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:32 < maiden> Cool thanks for all the help :) 01:33 < BleuLlama> have fun. :) 01:33 -!- gumby0 [n=gumby0@c-71-199-36-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:33 < maiden> Thanks again I'm off to mess around with it or rather iMess LOL 01:34 -!- maiden [n=icechat5@host-194-46-253-15.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net] has quit ["IceChat - Its whips the llama's butt"] 01:35 < tempest1> "iMess" -- that was so weird 01:39 -!- imphasing [n=Theresa@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 < imphasing> davidc__: Would it be a problem if I just locked every pointless topic in the off-topic section that looked like it would be a problem? 01:41 < imphasing> Not like they're exchanging valuable information.. 01:41 < tempest1> imphasing: might turn them off to the community though 01:41 < tempest1> which would make them alot less likely to participate anything useful 01:42 < imphasing> Like they participate in anything useful.. 01:42 < imphasing> haha 01:42 < imphasing> They're starting to debate star wars in this one.. 01:42 < tempest1> lol, well that's quite off topic... 01:47 < BleuLlama> off-topic section keeps people from posting crap in the rest of the forums 01:47 < BleuLlama> if you lock posts, they might post elsewhere 01:48 < BleuLlama> i still think we should purge all off-topic posts that are like 48 hours old or so 01:48 < imphasing> That would be a good idea.. 01:48 < imphasing> Not like there's a wealth of great information in that section. 01:49 < tempest1> prune all idle topics after 7 days 01:49 < BHSPitLappy> but that's where I post my memoirs!! 01:49 < BHSPitLappy> :O 01:49 < tempest1> having a post that stays after with the original posts deleted might be weird 01:49 < tempest1> s/post/topic/ 01:49 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:57 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:59 < imphasing> Maybe I should just prune every pointless post.. 01:59 < imphasing> hah. 01:59 < imphasing> that'd piss some people off. 01:59 < tempest1> imphasing: it would, because you have no reason to take offense to them 02:00 < imphasing> I meant more like, every post that is just bickering with eachother.. 02:00 < imphasing> which happens incredibly often 02:01 < tempest1> i'd temp ban for 24hrs if they bicker, permanent if they evade 02:01 < imphasing> Yeah, I can't ban; only "manage" 02:07 < tempest1> well in that case go cr4zy 02:10 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:43 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:49 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 02:55 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 02:57 -!- Edit0r [n=andrew@res05-adb39.res.st-and.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 < Edit0r> hullo 02:59 < Edit0r> anyone here had any luck with iDoom? 02:59 < BleuLlama> nah. i die pretty quickly. 03:00 < bholland> lol 03:02 < imphasing> Yeah, that first guy usually gets me.. 03:04 < Edit0r> can't seem to get it working on my 1g ipod 03:05 < courtc> What? the gun? 03:05 < Edit0r> says "bus error" 03:05 < courtc> Yea, it sucks pretty bad. 03:05 < Edit0r> nah, the game 03:05 < tempest1> i've almost beaten the first level 03:05 < tempest1> mostly out of boredom during school 03:05 < courtc> Continue on for a bit and you'll get a shotgun, much more effective. 03:05 < tempest1> i've got a railgun now 03:06 < courtc> Ah, you have made it far. 03:06 < Edit0r> maybe i have a buggered harddrive 03:07 < tempest1> Edit0r: any errors you get or anything? 03:08 < Edit0r> yup, says "external abort" then a whole load of stuff then "bus error" 03:09 < Edit0r> "unhandled exception: external abort on linefetch (F4)" 03:09 < tempest1> weird, weird 03:09 < tempest1> didn't mean to say that twice :/ 03:10 < tempest1> i started to say "weird" then something else, then went ADD and typed "weird" again 03:10 < Edit0r> heh 03:11 -!- ATravelingGeek [n=atg@38.99.4.158] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:14 < BleuLlama> i prefer the chainsaw, personally 03:17 < imphasing> I prefer not to play that.. 03:17 < imphasing> :] 03:23 < Edit0r> i'm off 03:23 < Edit0r> see yas all 03:24 -!- Edit0r [n=andrew@res05-adb39.res.st-and.ac.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:37 -!- do_me_nice [n=do__me__@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp120888.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:41 -!- ced117 [n=ced117@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:49e3] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:51 -!- ced117 [n=ced117@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:49e3] has joined #ipodlinux 04:23 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:23 -!- imphasing [n=Theresa@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:24 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-231-233-189.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:26 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-231-233-189.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:34 -!- do_me_nice [n=do__me__@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp120888.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:58 -!- gumby0 [n=gumby0@c-71-199-36-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:59 < gumby0> strange news everyone: apple might be dumping the PortalPlayer contract on future iPods: http://portalplayer.com/news-and-events/PPI_transition.htm 04:59 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:07 -!- gumby0 [n=gumby0@c-71-199-36-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:11 < BHSPitLappy> cool 05:40 < fontp> that'sthe mp3 decoder chip ? 06:00 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [] 06:10 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-245-81.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:31 < BHSPitLappy> that's the everything chip 06:37 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has joined #ipodlinux 06:40 -!- kclaf is now known as int 06:42 < davidc__> interesting 06:42 < davidc__> eh, no big deal - they're probably moving to another arm chip 06:42 < davidc__> one with a bit more oomph 06:43 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-245-81.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:47 < BHSPitLappy> I expect a migration to intel dual core. 06:48 < BHSPitLappy> given their "recent" partnership. 06:48 < davidc__> hah 06:48 < davidc__> maybe an intel xscale ;) 06:49 < BHSPitLappy> "For years, Intel xscale chips have been trapped inside of... well, what have they been in? Whatever, now they're set free. Inside iPods. Whatever." 06:51 < tempel> Nah, the new iPod will use PowerPCs - they're lower in power consumption and, as Jobs has shown us years ago already, are twice as fast as Intel CPUs 06:53 < BHSPitLappy> but the intels are DUO, so it evens out. 06:53 < tempel> btw, does Apple's firmware on the ipod use BOTH cores of the PP? 06:54 < BHSPitLappy> why wouldn't it? 06:54 < davidc__> tempel: er, xscale != x86 :P 06:54 < davidc__> tempel: xscale = x867 06:54 < davidc__> and ppc's rarely beat arms for power consumption ;) 06:55 < davidc__> gah 06:55 < davidc__> xscale = ARM 06:55 * davidc__ is too tired to typpe normal things 06:55 < tempel> because the iPL programmers recently said something like "don't use the second core, it'll only slow things down" 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> you can't hug your children with ARM processors. 06:55 < tempel> I still have two computers in use that use StrongARMs :) 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> tempel: because we haven't mastered the pp, okay? 06:56 * BHSPitLappy uses "we" loosely. 06:56 < davidc__> tempel: er - which programmers said what huh? 06:56 < tempel> let me check the archives... 06:59 < tempel> ok, it was aegray: 06:59 < tempel> Apr 18 04:17:20 has anyone here ever tinkered with the second core? 06:59 < tempel> Apr 18 04:19:37 you dont want to - it makes things slow - but comment out the cache stuff in the kernel code 06:59 < tempel> he's not one of the core (sic!) developers, though, is he? 06:59 < davidc__> aegray: is :P 06:59 < tempel> so, he has occidially no clue, right? :) 07:00 < davidc__> but I think you're taking something out of context there ;) 07:00 < tempel> oh, he is. oh well. there you have the quote then 07:00 < davidc__> as his video player is most definitely multi-core 07:00 < davidc__> eh, I think he must have been talking about something specific 07:00 < tempel> so, he's lying to us mortals. the bastard 07:01 < tempel> keeping us uniformed 07:01 < tempel> alright, so second core = cool 07:01 < davidc__> second core == first core 07:01 < davidc__> however - there are lots of reasons when you only want one core 07:01 < davidc__> theres not a lot of main mem bandwidth 07:01 < davidc__> so unless you're running one core out of iram - or you can fit your code inside the cache 07:02 < davidc__> you're gonna get a lot of "waiting" 07:02 < tempel> sounds logical. 07:02 < davidc__> basically - if you just blindly go ahead and use the second core, you might get a performance hit 07:02 < davidc__> but if you do it right- it'll really help 07:02 < tempel> and iram is not slowing them down, apparently, even if both operate on it? 07:02 < davidc__> iram = fast 07:03 < tempel> i = internal, i guess 07:03 < tempel> internal of the pp 07:03 < tempel> to 07:13 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@46.27.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 07:34 -!- charlienail888 [n=Eren@modemcable144.224-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #iPodLinux 07:40 -!- charlienail888 [n=Eren@modemcable144.224-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:12 < tempel> josh, what did you want me to test on the loader2 you offered? 08:14 -!- Flub [n=d@p54A09933.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 < Flub> hey is here anybody who know something about installing ines? 08:22 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fce58.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:25 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 08:41 -!- SereRokR [n=Fletcher@Fd6aa.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:50 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fce58.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:57 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°"] 09:13 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 09:22 < Flub> florian? are you german= 09:23 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has joined #ipodlinux 09:25 < Quarryman> Flub: his host says France 09:25 < Flub> ok thx quarryman 09:33 -!- disident [n=disident@81.56.229.42] has joined #ipodlinux 09:33 -!- disident [n=disident@81.56.229.42] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:40 < pepie34> Quarryman? is it about me? 09:40 < Quarryman> pepie34: uhm? no? 09:40 < pepie34> OK 09:40 < pepie34> I'm discovered 09:41 < Quarryman> are you from France too? ;-) 09:41 < pepie34> yes 09:41 < pepie34> why? 09:41 < Quarryman> nothing really.. just wondering since you said you were discovered ;-) 09:42 < pepie34> Is somebody reach to run MPD on a 5G? 09:42 < pepie34> i run out how memory at half of the file scanning 09:52 -!- acs [n=acs@213.171.250.238] has joined #ipodlinux 09:54 -!- Flub [n=d@p54A09933.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 09:56 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:58 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:59 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:26 -!- bmxr [n=root@d64-180-235-182.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:28 -!- bmxr [n=root@d64-180-235-182.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:31 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:38 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:43 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 10:53 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 11:26 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 11:27 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:27 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 11:28 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 11:28 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:29 < rmh3093> josh_: you around 11:40 -!- pepie34 [n=pepie34@192.33.221.204] has quit ["Quitte"] 12:15 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:33 -!- int [i=kclaf@crj95-3-82-237-150-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:44 < rmh3093> tempi: are you around 12:50 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:08 < tempi> yo 13:08 < tempi> rmh3093, 13:11 -!- tempi [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 13:13 < rmh3093> hey 13:14 < rmh3093> i think i know why my installer keeps crashing 13:14 < rmh3093> what version of glibc do you have on your linux box 13:15 < rmh3093> damit your gone 13:24 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:24 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:25 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["NTOSKRNL.EXE caused a buffer overflow in System Idle Proce²¦©§ÜæîôØþ°"] 13:25 -!- countach [n=chatzill@174.87.32.203.velocitynet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 13:25 -!- acs [n=acs@213.171.250.238] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:28 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Yøu sunk my bättleship."] 13:36 -!- Enk [n=chatzill@h21n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:37 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:38 < fxb> hi 13:38 -!- fxb_ [n=fxb@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:40 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@161.29.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 13:42 < Enk> hi 13:50 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host200-50.pool8710.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 13:53 -!- tempi [n=tempi@ttg4.tempel.org] has joined #ipodlinux 13:54 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@46.27.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:56 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:56 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Changing server"] 13:57 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:59 -!- florian_ [n=Florian@florian.maisel.int-evry.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 14:03 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 14:12 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host200-50.pool8710.interbusiness.it] has quit ["Client exiting"] 14:17 < rmh3093> tempi: what version of glibc to you run on your linux box 14:27 -!- fxb_ [n=fxb@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:30 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:35 < tempi> how do i know? 14:37 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 14:40 < rmh3093> tempi: check your package manager for glibc and see what version it is 14:41 < tempi> ok. i am at work now. i could check in about 4 hours 14:43 < rmh3093> alright i will remind you later, the reason is the version I use only allows for nptl, i dont know if all distro's use the version I have but older version supported, linuxthreads and nptl, the installer on my machine crashes because of thread issue 14:43 < rmh3093> im wondering if this has to do with my error 14:43 < tempi> any *op* here? i can't post on the -dev channel again 14:44 < tempi> rmh3093, is this still about running josh's installer? 14:44 < rmh3093> is the only page I can find but it descibes the issued and possible solutions http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.qtfr.org/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D7536&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522timers%2Bcannot%2Bbe%2Bstopped%2Bfrom%2Banother%2Bthread%2522%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DmxY%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official 14:44 < rmh3093> yepers! 14:44 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host200-50.pool8710.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 14:45 < tempi> aegray, josh, courtc ? 14:46 < rmh3093> no one has talked here for about 5hrs 14:46 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@161.29.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 14:48 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host200-50.pool8710.interbusiness.it] has quit [Client Quit] 14:52 < josh_> 23:59 < tempel> Apr 18 04:19:37 you dont want to - it makes things slow - but comment out the cache stuff in the kernel code 14:52 < josh_> tempi: aegray was referring to the inadvisability of disabling the cache, not of using the other core 14:52 < josh_> 01:12 < tempel> josh, what did you want me to test on the loader2 you offered? 14:53 < josh_> tempi: just that nothing broke when I applied the patch 14:53 < josh_> 04:29 < rmh3093> josh_: you around 14:53 < josh_> rmh3093: yes 14:53 < rmh3093> :) 14:53 < rmh3093> i've narrowed my installer seg falut issued to threading 14:53 < tempi> josh, can you give me voice on the dev channel, please 14:53 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:53 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:54 < josh_> tempi: just did 14:54 < tempi> thx 14:55 < tempi> josh, you do realize though, that my changes are still in testing, and that i have made avail another b2 already? 14:55 < josh_> yes 14:56 < tempi> the b2 is, however, much better than the 2.3 in the svn - it only makes things better and does not break new things 14:56 < tempi> so, if you apply the b2 changes to the svn, it would be ok with me, but please let's give it a proper version number, i.e. 2.4 then? 14:57 < tempi> the only outstanding bug is: the keypad can still lock the ipod up when you use it too heavily, on clickwheels 14:58 < josh_> ok 14:58 < josh_> I'm not going to apply b1 to SVN - I just applied it locally, changed a few stylistic things, and wanted to make sure I didn't break anything. 14:58 < josh_> (that is, I'm not going to check in b1, just b2) 14:58 < josh_> (and with a proper version number) 14:59 * josh_ -> class 14:59 < Enk> who is responsible for the forums? :P 15:00 < Enk> it really grinds my gears that there is no 24hrs support :P 15:01 < rmh3093> LOL 15:01 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:01 < Enk> =D 15:01 < rmh3093> it really grinds my gears 15:01 < rmh3093> :) 15:01 < Enk> ;) 15:01 < Enk> peter owns 15:02 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 15:16 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=fiftyfou@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:18 < fiftyfour123> whats a good free partition tool for mac? 15:19 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=fiftyfou@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:22 -!- gumby0 [n=gumby0@c-71-199-36-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:22 < tempi> Disk Utility from Apple :) 15:23 < tempi> or "sudo pdisk" 15:31 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:37 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-101-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:38 < bluey> mhh got a question about loader2 15:39 < bluey> if i put apple_os.bin as image von the second partition do i need this second firmware too? 15:40 < linuxstb> Are you talking about a 5g? 15:40 < bluey> yes 15:40 < bluey> forgotten to mention 15:40 < BleuLlama> do you mean the resource file? 15:41 * BleuLlama just curious; has no answers 15:41 * linuxstb also curious and answerless 15:42 < bluey> well the loader2 wiki speaks about loader apple_os from an image and not from the first partition 15:42 < linuxstb> But I would guess that you do still need the resource file in your firmware partition - I think it's loaded by RetailOS, so RetailOS will expect it there. 15:42 < BleuLlama> i would think you're best off having RetailOS and the Resource files both in the loader/boot partition 15:43 < BleuLlama> since, i believe the "ramimg" loading of those is the quickes way to laod RetailOS 15:43 * BleuLlama does it that way, and just has the linux kernel on the user partition 15:43 * BleuLlama on a NANO 15:44 * BleuLlama can't load rockbox though, sadly. :( 15:44 * BleuLlama wants to try out rockbox, but never has. :( 15:44 < linuxstb> Implement HFS read/write support for us then :) 15:46 < Enk> BleuLlama: do you know if rockbox supports playback for files added from itunes yet? Last time i looked it only supported files that were added in discmode. :/ 15:48 < linuxstb> Enk: This isn't the channel to ask, but the answer is yes (sort of). Rockbox doesn't read the itunesdb, but it has a built-in database feature called tagcache which indexes all files on your player, including those obfuscated by itunes in your iPod_Control folder. You can then browse them by artist/album/genre etc. 15:48 < BleuLlama> Enk: i just said i want to try it out but never have. i have no idea about features 15:50 < tempi> bluey, i have successfully loaded the appleos-bin from the music partition, but why would you want that? the space in the fw partition is reserved already anyways, so you won't gain anything by that 15:51 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:52 < bluey> well just thought it could be handy in the future 15:52 < bluey> to update apple_os without writing the boot partition 15:52 < tempi> right :) 15:52 < tempi> the future... 16:02 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 < fiftyfour123> imphasing here? 16:03 < fiftyfour123> nope...lol 16:03 < Enk> okay, cool, may give it a shot then =) 16:04 < fiftyfour123> anyone know of some good partition tools for mac? 16:07 < BleuLlama> 11:22 < tempi> Disk Utility from Apple :) 16:07 < BleuLlama> 11:23 < tempi> or "sudo pdisk" 16:10 < fiftyfour123> pdisk makes me erase the partition map and start over to be able to write it 16:11 < fiftyfour123> and disk utility doesnt let me make ext2 partitions 16:11 < tempi> there is no known tool to make ext2 parts on os x 16:11 < fiftyfour123> what about ext3? 16:12 < fiftyfour123> i need to make a partition to install fedora on 16:13 < rmh3093> fiftyfour123: print the partition map before you erase it 16:13 < rmh3093> then recreate the partitons you want to keep in the same place 16:13 < fiftyfour123> but it asks what blocks it starts on and stuff but it asks for the first block 16:13 < fiftyfour123> is there a free program like ipartition? 16:16 < fiftyfour123> do linux partitions have to be ext2 or ext3 or can it be UFS? 16:16 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@254.80-203-96.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:16 < BleuLlama> EXT 16:17 < tempi> fiftyfour123, if you want to install linux, all you need is a empty partition. the _linux_ installer then formats that partiton, NOT YOU in advance. comprende? 16:18 < fiftyfour123> oh...so it can just be a free space thingy? 16:19 < tempi> rrrrrright 16:19 * BleuLlama decides to focus attention elsewhere 16:20 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-99dcd3fdba380a69] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:20 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-457286ab.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 16:22 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-2627af45fe46d726] has joined #ipodlinux 16:28 -!- clockworker [n=clockwor@p54AD6B17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:43 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:43 -!- fxb_ [n=fxb@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:44 < fxb> hi 16:45 < Enk> hi 16:45 < bluey> do linux partitions have to be ext2 or ext3 or can it be UFS? <- i would stick with ext2 16:45 < fiftyfour123> ok 16:45 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@161.29.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 16:45 < davidc__[2]> fxb: thanks for the pm regarding disk size 16:45 -!- clockworker [n=clockwor@p54AD6B17.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Connection reset by peer"] 16:45 < bluey> dunno if the ipl kernel supports journal but imho it's waste of space to use ext3 16:46 < fxb> davidc__[2]: yeah, wanted to keep that thread clean :) 16:47 < davidc__[2]> fxb: I'll edit in 16:49 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@161.29.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:52 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@161.29.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 16:53 -!- acs_ [n=acs@163.Red-217-126-151.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:56 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@254.80-203-96.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:57 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 16:59 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@254.80-203-96.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:02 -!- acs_ [n=acs@163.Red-217-126-151.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 17:04 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:11 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-101-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:31 -!- disident [n=disident@81.56.229.42] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 -!- disident [n=disident@81.56.229.42] has quit [Client Quit] 17:37 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Yøu sunk my bättleship."] 17:45 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 18:13 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:13 < BHSPitLappy> hey bholland 18:13 < bholland> yo 18:21 < davidc__[2]> ay bholland 18:21 < davidc__[2]> heh.. mcbride.. middle of knowhere :P 18:21 < bholland> yeah 18:21 < bholland> for sure 18:21 < bholland> its snowing here 18:21 < bholland> Its a blizzard 18:21 < bholland> in April 18:22 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 * bholland looks into moving somewhere warmer 18:22 < davidc__[2]> bholland: come to nice rainy vancouver! :P 18:22 < bholland> hmmm 18:22 < bholland> I was thinking something more tropical 18:22 < davidc__[2]> eh, actually its sunny here right now 18:22 < bholland> yeah, well its snowing, SNOWING!!! 18:23 * bholland bashes his head on the desk then grabs a shovel 18:23 < BHSPitLappy> bholland: come hang out with us in texas. 18:26 < bholland> could do 18:26 < bholland> I dunno, maybe this isn't such a bad thing 18:26 < bholland> the snow that is 18:26 -!- deadsouls [n=deadsoul@pdpc/supporter/student/deadsouls] has quit ["brb"] 18:26 < bholland> it just means snowboarding :) 18:26 < bholland> my other one true love 18:27 < BHSPitLappy> ah, then texas is out. 18:27 < BHSPitLappy> ;) 18:27 < BHSPitLappy> try colorado, good variaton there 18:27 < BleuLlama> boy, i'm sure glad that I joined #current_weather_and_locations, because this sure is an interesting discussion 18:28 < davidc__[2]> BleuLlama: shut it 18:28 < BHSPitLappy> happy for you. 18:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__[2] ] by BleuLlama 18:28 < BleuLlama> no 18:28 < davidc__[2]> I didn't have it for this acct anyhow 18:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__ ] by BleuLlama 18:28 < bholland> lol 18:28 < BleuLlama> ;) 18:28 < BHSPitLappy> because of course, the brilliant conversation pouring out of BleuLlama this hour would be interrupted 18:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+oo davidc__[2] davidc__ ] by BleuLlama 18:29 < BHSPitLappy> wouldn't want any trivial nonsense going on. 18:29 < BleuLlama> i'm just bored. 18:29 < BleuLlama> hehe 18:34 < davidc__[2]> ptsh - who wants to live in the facist paradise thats the states anyhow ;) 18:36 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host176-54.pool873.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 18:36 -!- ced117 [n=ced117@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:49e3] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 18:37 < bholland> davidc__[2]: Candada is the place to be, not nesicarily McBride, but Candada!! 18:37 -!- ced117 [n=ced117@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:49e3] has joined #ipodlinux 18:38 < davidc__[2]> whoa.. someone on an IPV6 trunk 18:38 < davidc__[2]> cool 18:38 < davidc__[2]> anyhow - ya - definitely canada ;) 18:38 < bholland> cheers! 18:39 < davidc__[2]> next time you're in vancouver - gimme a shout 18:41 < bholland> yeah 18:41 < bholland> 2010 soon eh? 18:41 < bholland> lol 18:41 < BleuLlama> i've got a few friends in Vancouver 18:41 < bholland> theres a count down on CTV 18:41 < davidc__[2]> hah, thats the next time you're gonna be there? 18:41 < bholland> 1387 days till 2010 18:41 < bholland> lol 18:41 < davidc__[2]> ptsh.. I'm leaving vancouver in 2010 18:41 < bholland> lol 18:41 < davidc__[2]> I don't want to be stuck in the huge crowds of idiots 18:41 < bholland> come to McBride 18:41 < davidc__[2]> hahaa 18:42 < davidc__[2]> well.. its snowy... what else is there to do 18:42 < davidc__[2]> eh, if there're good ski hills, I'd be set 18:42 < bholland> we've become a bunch of fools to going along with this hockyville thing... 18:42 < davidc__[2]> hockyville? 18:42 < bholland> http://www.cbchockeyville.ca/ 18:42 < davidc__[2]> heh, you sound totally high on caffeine form your forum posts 18:42 < bholland> lol yup 18:43 < bholland> first all nighter this year 18:43 < bholland> I used to do them alot, not so much anymore :( damn work!! 18:43 < davidc__[2]> heh.. ya.. next time you're in Van, gimme a shout - we can do some iPL hacking 18:43 < bholland> sweet 18:43 < davidc__[2]> huh, don't see mcbride on that page 18:44 < bholland> http://www.cbchockeyville.ca/community/whoishockeyville/ 18:44 < bholland> Judges' selections for April 19, 2006 18:44 < davidc__[2]> ah, I was thinking the ones on the front page 18:44 < davidc__[2]> eh, if you were still on the front page I woulda setup a wget script to multivote 18:44 < bholland> lol 18:44 < davidc__[2]> if they don't want people to vote multiple times 18:44 < davidc__[2]> they should use a stronger captcha 18:45 < bholland> no the judges passed us through for immunity 18:45 < davidc__[2]> ah 18:45 < davidc__[2]> let me know when its the final round or something 18:45 < bholland> June.9 I think 18:48 < davidc__[2]> hmm.. I should take a look @ that iboy stuff - use my l33t skillz @ arm asm ;) 18:49 < davidc__[2]> bholland: btw - how are you doing the stretch? - just duplicating a certain percentage of columns? 18:49 < davidc__[2]> or are you actually doing proper interpolation? 18:50 < bholland> the easy one 18:50 < bholland> lol 18:51 < erus`> easy and faster :D 18:51 < davidc__[2]> yup 18:51 < davidc__[2]> bholland: probably the easiest /fasted way would be to make a look up table 18:51 < davidc__[2]> no divides / multiplies / mods needed 18:52 < bholland> ah 18:53 < bholland> I think you should use your l33t skillz to show me 18:55 < davidc__[2]> ya, I'd have to look @ your code 18:56 < bholland> one sec I'll upload it 18:59 < tempel> jonrelay keeps telling me that when turning the wheel creates l & r chars, it's the serial input method - but that does not sound correct to me. 18:59 < tempel> i rather think that it's two separate things. 18:59 < coob> it is correct 18:59 < coob> cos the serial input is just what a keyboard would produce 18:59 < coob> and the kernel wheel driver provides l's and r's 18:59 < coob> as if it were a keyboard 18:59 < tempel> right, so they are independent 19:00 < coob> there's a new /dev/wheel proposal in place 19:00 < coob> yes, but the data comes in from the same place 19:00 < coob> to the user-space, that is 19:00 < tempel> it's the ABSENSE of a input method that would use the keypad to create other codes what's leading to me getting l & r on the wheel, isn't that so? 19:01 < fxb> yes 19:01 < fxb> http://ipodlinux.org/Text_Input_Methods#Serial 19:01 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 19:01 < tempel> so, the keypad ALWAYS creates l & r, no matter what input method is chosen, but then the input methods tht work with the ipod keypad remap those kernel codes into something else, right? 19:02 < tempel> fxb, i know what serial input is. that was not the question 19:02 < tempel> they question is why i get an "m" when i press the menu button while the serial input is chosen 19:03 -!- deadsouls [n=deadsoul@pdpc/supporter/student/deadsouls] has joined #ipodlinux 19:03 < tempel> coob, could you confirm what i said? or do i still have it wrong? 19:15 < coob> tempel, because the serial input is whatever /dev/ttywhatever gives you 19:15 < coob> and the keypad driver in the kernel outputs to that 19:16 < coob> and that's all i know, i'm now going out to get exceedingly pissed. 19:16 < tempel> hmm. i don't get it, but i will keep your words in mind. thanks 19:16 < tempel> pissed in the english way? have fun then! 19:17 -!- voidnull [n=pkgbuild@unaffiliated/voidnull] has joined #ipodlinux 19:17 < coob> yep, seeing how i'm english :D 19:17 * coob out 19:18 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host176-54.pool873.interbusiness.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:18 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host186-16.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 -!- voidnull [n=pkgbuild@unaffiliated/voidnull] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 19:20 -!- Greenbox [n=Smash@adsl-144-39-178.chs.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 -!- tempest1 [n=2498qy@adsl-0-231-213.chs.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:20 -!- Greenbox is now known as tempest1 19:23 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host186-16.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:28 < iPL-SVN> jonrelay * tools/podzilla2/modules/textinput/textinput.c: As per Tempel's suggestion, make something other than Serial default for teh n00bs who can't even read and follow directions in a warning message. Sigh. Commence dumbing down... (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1131) 19:28 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [] 19:29 -!- Greenbox [n=Smash@adsl-153-45-101.chs.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 -!- tempest_ [n=Smash@adsl-144-43-46.chs.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 -!- tempest1 [n=Smash@adsl-144-39-178.chs.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:34 -!- tempest_ is now known as tempest1 19:41 < tempel> that's a nasty comment, jonrelay. it's not about RTFM, it's about the problem when installing the stuff for the first time, and the input method defaulting to serial input, which then leads to a unnecessary error message, which can't be read on ipods because the contrast is bad or even the backlight was off until Bleu fixed that last night (also after a request from me) 19:42 < tempel> calling people noobs for giving them unnessary trouble and leaving them alone with it is not nice 19:43 < erus`> here here! 19:46 < tempel> huh? did you comment on me? did you then perhaps "hear hear"? :) 19:46 < tempel> or are you one of those noobs? :) 19:46 -!- Greenbox [n=Smash@adsl-153-45-101.chs.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:55 < BleuLlama> yeah, having a logicial set of default states and values is important for everyone, not just the "dumb noobs" 19:56 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@201.66.134.43] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 < BleuLlama> the first time i installed pz2 and ran it on my ipod, i started a text editor, not realizing that It would default to serial input, and i had to hard-reboot it 19:57 < BleuLlama> jonrelay isn't in here. but hopefully he'll read the logs 20:00 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 < courtc> He does. 20:04 < BleuLlama> good. 20:05 < BleuLlama> hi jon! 20:14 < hyarion> anyone here with an ipod color or photo who want's to help me testing an iDoom build? 20:14 < davidc__[2]> hyarion: I will when I get home 20:14 < courtc> The nano has a 'color' screen... 20:15 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@201.66.134.43] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:15 < tempel> what's new for testing? 20:15 < fxb> i have a photo 20:15 < BleuLlama> courtc: really? 20:15 < courtc> I have a photograph... 20:15 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:15 < BleuLlama> i have a highlighter. that's pretty colorful... yellow 20:16 < hyarion> tempel: it's just to be sure it works before release 20:16 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=steve-o@67.64.145.221] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 * fxb has an iPod Photo to test iDoom 20:16 < hyarion> fxb: wait I'll msg an url if that's ok :) 20:16 < tempel> hmm, so still now strafing and touchpad support? 20:17 < hyarion> no 20:17 < hyarion> it's just to support all pods in one build 20:17 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-2627af45fe46d726] has quit [Excess Flood] 20:17 * tempel wonders if doom could be ported to the Lynx 20:18 < tempel> i could try it on a video, if that needs testing 20:18 < courtc> I could try it on my iBook 20:18 < BleuLlama> i can try it on my moleskine notebook 20:18 < courtc> Man. I'm so useless. 20:19 < BleuLlama> *we* 20:19 < courtc> I have 0 motivation. 20:19 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-66f5ad77b250ef76] has joined #ipodlinux 20:19 < BleuLlama> *we* 20:19 -!- linuxstb__ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:19 < courtc> haha 20:19 < hyarion> Ive tried it on everything but photo and color ipods though 20:19 < hyarion> anyone with an ipod photo? 20:19 < courtc> Everything? 20:20 < hyarion> ok maybe not 20:20 < BleuLlama> does it already work as expected on a moleskine notebook? 20:20 < courtc> You tried it on an Atari? 20:20 < hyarion> I ddid try it on my mac though, didn't work... guess an ibook isn't an ipod :/ 20:21 < courtc> Damn Endians. 20:22 < hyarion> damn ppc, why couldn't it be an arm :P 20:22 < courtc> I would love a risc laptop :O 20:23 < davidc__[2]> ppc is sorta risc 20:23 < BleuLlama> i've got a mips laptop. does that count? 20:23 < hyarion> davidc__[2]: is it an ipod color? :) 20:23 < davidc__[2]> hyarion: I have an "old" ipod color 20:23 < davidc__[2]> hyarion: aka - the ipod color thats a renamed ipod photo 20:25 < hyarion> davidc__[2]: ok to /msg a link to the test build then? 20:26 < davidc__[2]> hyarion: do it to davidc__ 20:26 < davidc__[2]> that way I'll see it when I get home 20:27 < hyarion> davidc__[2]: why aren't you using screen? 20:27 < hyarion> + ssh to that comp 20:27 < davidc__[2]> hyarion: too much effort ;) 20:27 < davidc__[2]> hyarion: and screen always fucks up when I change terminal sizes 20:29 < hyarion> then don't change the size :) 20:30 < tempel> i got an old powerbook 3400 here, with a 603e in with (200MHz). don't need that any more. if you make it to germany, be my guest and pick it up :) 20:32 -!- linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb 20:32 < hyarion> :P 20:33 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:33 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@67.64.145.221] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:34 -!- JtDL [n=Jesusthe@ppaige.console.utk.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 < gumby0> well i've done quite a bit of research, and i'm gung-ho about writing a usb driver 20:34 < gumby0> so here are my thoughts so you can shoot them down ;-) 20:35 < gumby0> I think the most effective way to figger out the specifics of GPIO port D is through the diskmode 20:35 -!- SereRokR [n=Fletcher@Fd6aa.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["XChat Aqua"] 20:37 < gumby0> if I disassemble and miraculously understand the firmware (quite a bit of work) I might be able to come up with the USB controller specifics 20:38 < gumby0> but alas, I am going in way over my head, so please tell me so 20:50 < hyarion> still need a ipod color tester for idoom 20:50 < tempel> gumby0, you want this done on the 3g or 5g? i will now work on the usb for the 3g because i got the specs of that usb controller 20:53 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@201.10.61.201] has joined #ipodlinux 20:55 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-169-234-88.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/ttk/src/ (icons.c menu.c): Put in a few checks to make sure that if there is a bad default.c file, that the menu doesn't look like black boxes on a white background, with a black box as a selection bar - instead it's black text on a white background, and the menu selection bar inve (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1132) 20:56 < BleuLlama> yay! 20:57 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@254.80-203-96.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:58 < tempel> bleu, does that also help when there are no themes installed ? 20:58 < BleuLlama> it should 20:59 < BleuLlama> in the old situations when you just see black boxes on the screen, and the menu selection does nothing, this fixes that 20:59 < tempel> great. thanks - that was one of the other few things that had bothered me. now i'm most happy :) 20:59 < BleuLlama> that one has been on my todo list for a *long* time, and I jsut realized a quick fix for it 20:59 < tempel> `todos for BleuLlama 21:00 < tempel> liar 21:00 < BleuLlama> might want to do `alltodos for BleuLlama 21:00 < tempel> oh 21:00 < BleuLlama> #25 21:00 < tempel> ok, i withdraw my accusation on account of, err, well ... 21:02 < davidc__[2]> `alltodos for BleuLlama 21:03 < davidc__[2]> I like my todos better 21:03 < tempel> why are the todos called issues? :) 21:03 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/core/module.c: More "no default.cs" fixes. This one clears up the module loading screen to be readable, just in case. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/1133) 21:04 < BleuLlama> ok. i can feel comfortable now removing it from my todo list 21:04 < BleuLlama> `todon 25 21:04 < BleuLlama> oops 21:04 < tempel> what the "click counter"? 21:04 < tempel> what _is_ ... 21:05 < BleuLlama> aha. indeed. 21:06 < tempel> ahh, now i know what's that business with a rock that was given to david recently :D 21:06 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-15230.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 21:06 < davidc__[2]> tempel: read User:Busonerd on the wiki ;) 21:07 < davidc__[2]> I have my own fan artwork 21:07 < tempel> lol! 21:08 < tempel> oh, you made that checksum code that's use in the firmware? i had been wondering who'd come up with that... ;) 21:08 -!- JtDL [n=Jesusthe@ppaige.console.utk.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:09 * tempel did never understand how CRC works but well knew how to use it and where to get the source code 21:11 -!- quobl_ [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-8442dbecafa02d62] has joined #ipodlinux 21:11 * tempel is going to watch Casino Royal now ... 21:11 < davidc__[2]> its not CRC 21:12 < davidc__[2]> its just additioin :P 21:12 < davidc__[2]> I can't claim to have done anything to special 21:12 < davidc__[2]> I just did it first 21:12 < tempel> i know. that was my point. just poking fun at you 21:12 < tempel> thought you can handle it 21:12 < tempel> it works good enough 21:19 -!- Lex [i=lex@vil.kas.tut.fi] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:19 -!- Lex_ [i=lex@vil.kas.tut.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd6aa.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:44 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-15230.bb.online.no] has quit [] 22:01 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd6aa.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["XChat Aqua"] 22:02 -!- ScootScat [n=yeahrigh@71-80-131-108.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:05 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:05 -!- smacmac [n=severins@79.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:13 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/external/x-66f5ad77b250ef76] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:41 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:41 -!- gumby0 [n=gumby0@c-71-199-36-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit ["Quitting!"] 22:41 -!- fxb_ [n=fxb@p548FCA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:53 -!- Flub [n=d@p54A0A89B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 < Flub> hey 22:53 -!- maiden [n=icechat5@194.46.183.201] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 < Flub> a question is here anybody who has iboy with fullscreen? not cutted..? 22:56 < courtc> cutted? 22:57 -!- Enk [n=chatzill@h21n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]"] 22:57 < BleuLlama> cropped? 22:58 < courtc> clipped? 22:58 -!- gumby0 [n=gumby0@c-71-199-36-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 < BleuLlama> clamped? 23:00 < courtc> chomped? 23:03 < Flub> cutted means 23:03 < courtc> constricted? 23:03 -!- maiden [n=icechat5@194.46.183.201] has quit ["Not that there is anything wrong with that"] 23:04 < Flub> http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6488/bild49nw.jpg 23:04 < courtc> convoluted? 23:04 < aegray> so any time i want to say http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6488/bild49nw.jpg i should say cutted 23:05 < Flub> sorry im german 23:05 < courtc> We can speak in pictures! 23:05 < Flub> ^^ 23:05 < Flub> teamspeak with bodylanguage 23:05 < courtc> corrupted? 23:06 < Flub> yeah 23:06 < Flub> thats the right word 23:06 < courtc> corroded? 23:07 < aegray> contorted? 23:08 < Flub> no idear 23:08 < Flub> i think 23:08 < Flub> you know what i meant 23:08 < courtc> contaminated? 23:09 -!- tempel [n=tempi@unaffiliated/tempi] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:09 < courtc> bestechlich? 23:12 -!- Lex_ is now known as Lex 23:16 -!- abeyance [i=vejuji@c-24-130-231-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal."] 23:18 -!- davidc__[2] [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:18 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 23:21 < Flub> apropo my question... 23:21 < Flub> is the fullscreen iboy working? 23:22 < BleuLlama> crappified 23:23 < Flub> http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=on&search=crappified&relink=on 23:27 < Flub> cu 23:27 < Flub> i go to bed 23:27 < Flub> bye bye+ 23:29 -!- Flub [n=d@p54A0A89B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 23:30 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host33-30.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 23:39 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@201.10.61.201] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:40 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@201.66.154.117] has joined #ipodlinux 23:45 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] --- Log closed Sat Apr 22 00:00:01 2006