--- Log opened Sun Mar 19 00:00:01 2006 00:01 < imphasing_> Somehow I doubt an object in free fall would cover 2000m in 6 seconds.. 00:02 < imphasing_> My realism factor may be off 00:02 < imphasing_> :) 00:02 -!- kuchdawg_ [n=kuchdawg@64-126-41-241-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:02 -!- kuchdawg [n=kuchdawg@64-126-41-241-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:03 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-35-184.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 00:04 < josh_> imphasing_: 2000 - 4.9t^2 = 0; 2000 = 4.9t^2; 408.2 = t^2; t ~= 20 00:04 < josh_> so yeah, you're off 00:04 < imphasing_> yeah, I know 00:04 < imphasing_> :P 00:04 < imphasing_> I was using the wrng firmula again though 00:04 < imphasing_> arg. 00:04 < imphasing_> I can't spell forumla 00:04 < josh_> or wrong, apparently 00:05 < imphasing_> Yeah, that too 00:05 -!- pinju_ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:14 < imphasing_> Alright, I think it's close to accurate now 00:14 < imphasing_> :) 00:21 -!- pinju__ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:32 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:38 -!- pinju__ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:42 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:44 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 00:46 -!- bholland [i=bholland@207.194.36.214] has joined #ipodlinux 00:47 -!- bholland [i=bholland@207.194.36.214] has quit [Client Quit] 00:54 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- rob- [n=robbie@haylott.plus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- pinju_ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:06 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 -!- pinju_ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:14 -!- _F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:15 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:15 -!- _F-F_[hmf] is now known as F-F_[hmf] 01:20 < ][milwaukee][> wtf....i can't get this thing to install correctly again 01:20 < ][milwaukee][> i've reinitiated the partition tables on my ipod nano using the standard binary 01:21 < ][milwaukee][> i install podzilla using installer 01:21 < ][milwaukee][> works fine 01:21 < ][milwaukee][> go to format partitions, it's all messed up 01:21 < ][milwaukee][> first partition is a fat16 at 1900mb 01:21 < ][milwaukee][> no 2nd 3rd or 4th partition visible 01:21 < ][milwaukee][> wtf's going on? 01:25 -!- ichaelmay8 [i=ichaelma@AC861CA1.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:29 -!- pinju__ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:33 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 < ][milwaukee][> after i run linux installer, i check partitions on the ipod, this is what i get.... 01:38 < ][milwaukee][> partition #, type, size 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 1: fat16 1953 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 2. empty 0 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 3. empty 0 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 4. empty 0 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> it should be 1: 00 Empty 0 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 2: 0B FAT32 0 ** 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 3: 83 Ext2/Ext3/Reiser 31 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> 4: 00 Empty 0 01:39 < ][milwaukee][> what's going on? 01:40 < BHSPitLappy> thanks for the pastage... 01:40 < ][milwaukee][> eh? 01:40 < ][milwaukee][> i only pasted the last 4 lines 01:40 < imphasing_> Which is probably 3 lines too many 01:41 -!- burgerman [n=slasherx@24-247-171-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:41 < ][milwaukee][> my apologies, any ideas? 01:42 < imphasing_> Not really. 01:42 < imphasing_> Just use the ipod restore thingy, and do it again 01:42 < ][milwaukee][> does ipod restore rewrite partitions? 01:42 < ][milwaukee][> i really don't think so 01:42 < imphasing_> yes 01:42 < imphasing_> of course it does.. 01:42 < ][milwaukee][> the tables? 01:43 < imphasing_> It completley erases the hard drive 01:43 < imphasing_> well, sort of 01:43 < imphasing_> but it re-does everything on the ipod 01:43 < ][milwaukee][> it won't even find the ipod unless certain tables are set up right 01:43 < imphasing_> boot into diskmode 01:43 < imphasing_> and do it 01:43 < BHSPitLappy> ][milwaukee][: wrong... 01:43 < ][milwaukee][> done and done, restore won't find the ipod unless certain tables are there 01:43 < BHSPitLappy> ][milwaukee][: wrong... 01:43 < imphasing_> We need a wrong-gong 01:43 < ][milwaukee][> BHSPitLappy: then why won't the ipodupdater find the ipod if i delete all partitions? 01:43 < imphasing_> `gong Wrong! 01:43 < BHSPitLappy> try formatting it with the hp format util (forums) 01:44 < ][milwaukee][> doing that 01:44 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing_: what did you mean by "sort of"? 01:44 < BHSPitLappy> what's the exception? 01:44 < imphasing_> Well, it doesn't re-write every bit on the hard drive to 0 01:44 < imphasing_> :P 01:44 < imphasing_> It probably just changes the inodes to point elsewhere 01:44 < imphasing_> or just deletes them 01:45 -!- EvilDude [n=prashant@CPE-60-225-216-134.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 < BHSPitLappy> hey EvilDude 01:46 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-35-184.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 < futureyankee> hey, im trying to compile pz2, and i keep getting this error everytime: 01:46 < futureyankee> linux:~/podzilla2 # make IPOD=1 01:46 < futureyankee> Building core. 01:46 < futureyankee> Building modules. 01:46 < futureyankee> ../../module.mk:51: *** You must define MODULE.. Stop. 01:46 < futureyankee> ../../module.mk:51: *** You must define MODULE.. Stop. 01:46 < futureyankee> make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 01:46 < futureyankee> make: *** [modules] Error 2 01:46 < BHSPitLappy> futureyankee: NO. 01:46 < imphasing_> .paste 01:47 < imphasing_> .flood 01:47 < futureyankee> o sorry 01:47 < imphasing_> pick your poinsen 01:47 < imphasing_> um. 01:47 < BHSPitLappy> lol 01:47 < imphasing_> poisen 01:47 < imphasing_> damnit 01:47 < BHSPitLappy> *poison 01:47 < imphasing_> I can't spell 01:47 < futureyankee> well, its an error with the module.mk file 01:47 < imphasing_> there we go 01:47 < ][milwaukee][> .mispell 01:47 < imphasing_> misspell 01:47 < futureyankee> and ive asked around, but no ones been able to help really so far 01:47 < ][milwaukee][> .misspell 01:47 < ][milwaukee][> heh 01:48 -!- hhehw [n=xboxhheh@pool-68-237-1-27.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:48 < futureyankee> so does anyone think they mite know how to fix it? 01:49 < futureyankee> or help 01:50 -!- SpAiC [i=Spaic@81-233-91-109-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has quit ["- nbs-irc 2.0 - www.nbs-irc.net -"] 01:50 -!- SpAiC [i=Spaic@81-233-91-109-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #iPodlinux 01:50 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 01:50 -!- SpAiC [i=Spaic@81-233-91-109-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:51 -!- hhehw [n=xboxhheh@pool-68-237-1-27.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:51 < EvilDude> 'lo BHSPitLappy 01:51 < EvilDude> whats going on today :) 01:52 < imphasing_> nothing 01:52 < imphasing_> There's nothing happeneing in any part of the world 01:53 < futureyankee> ya there is, this module.mk problem compiling pz2 01:53 < futureyankee> thats going on 01:53 < futureyankee> here atleast 01:54 < futureyankee> so no one knows how to fix it? 01:54 < imphasing_> Goddamnit, my library is only 2.4k.. 01:54 < imphasing_> how weak is that? 01:55 < EvilDude> haha thats not a very good way to measure how good a library is =\ 01:56 < EvilDude> your physics library i presume? 01:56 < imphasing_> yeah 01:56 < EvilDude> so what does it do 01:56 < EvilDude> apart from do the physics for you :p 01:57 < imphasing_> It can apply impulses to objects in all three axis now 01:57 < imphasing_> :) 01:57 < EvilDude> ooo cool 01:57 < imphasing_> It's sort of like hotdog, but with physics instead of graphics 01:57 < imphasing_> you add fizz_objects to a fizz_system 01:57 < EvilDude> haha nice 01:57 < EvilDude> fizz :) 01:57 < imphasing_> and you can call different functions on the individual objects 01:57 < imphasing_> and it'll calculate everything 01:57 < imphasing_> the objects don't interact yet though 01:57 < imphasing_> hopefully, collisions will be cool 01:57 < EvilDude> ah that's pretty cool though 01:57 < imphasing_> :) 01:57 < futureyankee> imphasing, u think u could maybe help? 01:57 < EvilDude> :P 01:58 < EvilDude> you working using any sample or just coding away the physics at the moment? 01:58 < EvilDude> (haha your library is 2.4k, my todo file for a program i'm working is 3.4k :P) 02:00 < futureyankee> alright, well, im trying to port a lot of modules to pz2, and i cant test unless i can get this error fixed. does that get anyone interested now? 02:02 < erus`> futureyankee 02:02 < futureyankee> yes? 02:02 < erus`> what the problem again? 02:03 < futureyankee> some error with module.mk 02:03 < futureyankee> wen i do make IPOD=1 02:03 < futureyankee> it comes up 02:03 < erus`> is that cygwin? 02:03 < futureyankee> nope 02:03 < futureyankee> in linux 02:03 < erus`> what dist? 02:03 < futureyankee> suse 02:03 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:03 < futureyankee> 9.somethin 02:03 < imphasing_> EvilDude: I'm just coding physics 02:03 < erus`> i build it with suse ages ago 02:03 < imphasing_> I'm not sure if I'll go paste kinematics 02:04 < futureyankee> how did u get it to work? 02:04 < imphasing_> I might do some rotational stuff 02:04 < erus`> imphasing_, all in ipod asm for speed i hope :P 02:04 -!- pinju_ [n=pinju@c-24-16-144-110.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:04 < futureyankee> erus`: do u know how i mite be able to fix this error? 02:04 < erus`> futureyankee, i just follow the build for desktop instructrions... then later i built for ipod 02:04 < futureyankee> really? 02:04 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < futureyankee> erus`: u built pz2 like that? with the instructions for the desktop build? 02:06 < erus`> ah 02:06 < erus`> podzilla 1 02:06 < futureyankee> o 02:07 < futureyankee> so no one knows how to fix this then? 02:07 < imphasing_> erus`: It's not just for the ipod 02:07 < imphasing_> :P 02:07 < imphasing_> It's pretty heavy on the floating point math 02:08 < imphasing_> I might convert it to fixed point though 02:08 < erus`> its not so simple to convert it after you have all the floating point stuff because you have to replace it all with macros for * / and everything 02:09 < courtc> haha, no. 02:10 < erus`> ok your the hexpert 02:10 < futureyankee> courtc do you have any ideas? 02:10 < erus`> honestly dont expect alot of help from here 02:10 < futureyankee> ok 02:10 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:13 -!- ichaelmay8 [i=ichaelma@AC861CA1.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:13 < davidc___> hrm? 02:13 < courtc> hah 02:13 < davidc___> whats the issue? 02:14 -!- ][milwaukee][ [n=ahastert@ppp-69-218-178-94.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit [] 02:16 < imphasing_> fixed point math is really simple.. 02:16 < imphasing_> You just shift the integer according to how many decimals you want 02:17 < erus`> yeh thats the simple bit 02:17 < josh_> imphasing_: for fixed-point... + and - are the same 02:17 < erus`> but multiplying 2 * 4 = 8 20 * 40 > 80 02:18 < josh_> imphasing_: for fixmul, try this 02:18 < davidc___> erus - you shift by your offset ever mul 02:18 < davidc___> aka 2-0 * 4-0 >> [1decimal place] 02:18 < davidc___> where the dash represents your virtual decimal 02:19 < josh_> erm 02:19 < josh_> imphasing_: never mind 02:19 < josh_> listen to davidc___ ;-) 02:19 < josh_> for multiplying 16.16 numbers, I generally use ((a >> 8) * (b >> 8)) 02:19 < josh_> but that loses half your precision 02:19 < firstrobotics> Thanks for your help before Imphasing 02:19 < firstrobotics> I'm outty 02:19 < firstrobotics> peace everyoneee 02:20 < davidc___> josh_: haha - whats the point? same as multiplying non fixed point #s ;) 02:20 < josh_> you can do a non-precision-losing version with ((long long)a * (long long)b) >> 32 02:20 -!- firstrobotics [n=chatzill@69.177.13.246] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20060226]"] 02:20 < davidc___> josh_: but thats really slow for arm ;) 02:20 < josh_> yep 02:20 < josh_> I'd code one in asm, with umull and some shifts 02:20 < josh_> erm 02:20 < josh_> don't need the shifts 02:20 < josh_> just umull (or smull) and return the top half 02:20 < josh_> (of the result, that is) 02:20 < davidc___> yep. 02:22 < BHSPitLappy> davidc___: calculating postage from tx to canada... 02:22 < BHSPitLappy> that mobo's like, 1oz? 02:23 < imphasing_> I'll just code with floats till I get it all sorted out 02:23 < imphasing_> :) 02:23 < davidc___> BHSPitLappy: probably 02:23 < davidc___> put it in something fairly stiff - aka - wrap it in cardboard or something 02:23 < BHSPitLappy> remind me where you are 02:23 < BHSPitLappy> BC? 02:24 < davidc___> Vancouver, BC 02:24 < imphasing_> Yay! 02:24 < imphasing_> :) 02:24 < imphasing_> What aprt? 02:24 < imphasing_> s/arpt/part/ 02:24 < imphasing_> I lived in WA/BC for a while 02:24 < davidc___> imphasing_: huh? in vancouver :P 02:24 < imphasing_> um 02:24 < imphasing_> yeah 02:24 < imphasing_> didn't see that aprt 02:24 < imphasing_> hehe 02:25 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:26 < imphasing_> I completly ruined my impulse function 02:26 < imphasing_> :( 02:26 < imphasing_> Or rather, I didn't write it right in the first place 02:27 < BHSPitLappy> you're too impulsive anyway 02:27 < imphasing_> true 02:27 < imphasing_> But you gotta have impulses for a physics library 02:27 < imphasing_> :P 02:36 -!- [frylock] [n=ahastert@ppp-69-218-178-94.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:37 < [frylock]> is there any reason why the hp format utility would tell me my ipod's disc is write-protected? 02:37 < [frylock]> even if i restart in disc mode? 02:42 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < [frylock]> i'm at the point where i'm in disc mode, ipod update won't recognize my ipod, hp format util thinks the disc is write protected 02:42 < [frylock]> what do i do? 02:44 < imphasing_> I have math.h included in my source, yet I get an undefined reference to sqrt().. 02:44 < Chile`> imphasing_: link against libm (-lm) 02:45 < imphasing_> ah 02:48 < [frylock]> i'm at the point where i'm in disc mode, ipod update won't recognize my ipod, hp format util thinks the disc is write protected.. 02:48 < [frylock]> what do i do?? 02:48 < [frylock]> also, i deleted all partitions 02:49 < imphasing_> I love comments like this: /* DOESN'T FUCKING WORK. */ 02:49 < imphasing_> I wonder if the commented code works.. 02:50 < Chile`> imphasing_: grep the linux source for 'fucking' sometime 02:50 < [frylock]> why would my disc be write-protected? 02:50 < Chile`> its amusing. 02:50 < imphasing_> really? 02:50 * imphasing_ does that 02:51 -!- [frylock] [n=ahastert@ppp-69-218-178-94.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit [] 02:52 < BHSPitLappy> lol 02:53 < imphasing_> My linux source has no occurances of "fucking" 02:53 < imphasing_> :( 02:54 < imphasing_> oh 02:54 < imphasing_> I'm doing it all wront 02:54 < imphasing_> wrong 02:54 < imphasing_> :) 02:54 < courtc> http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/ 02:55 -!- kboal [n=kboal@c-24-147-74-88.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 < kboal> Hello 02:56 < kboal> Okay, please don't be mad at me, but I'm getting a kernel panic because of the init thing...however the thing is, that I just finished reinstalling the kernel using one of the nightlys...I've installed the poweroff beta...but I'm still getting the kernel panic...does anyone know why? 02:58 < kboal> Oh yeah, it's an iPod Nano, 4GB 03:02 -!- erus` [n=tmo@ACCA5F93.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:12 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 03:14 < BHSPitLappy> then you screwed up 03:15 < davidc___> kboal: reinstall the userland 03:15 < kboal> tried it 03:17 < kboal> It's not even that my iPod went into standby and it's happening after that, I finished installing Linux per the instructions on the wiki site and rebooted the iPod... 03:17 < davidc___> whats the exact error? 03:18 < kboal> Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. 03:18 < kboal> When I reboot and mount my sda3 partition init exists as a link...could it be the link is broken or something? 03:19 -!- erus` [n=tmo@ACCA5F93.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:20 < davidc___> kboal: check :P 03:21 -!- burgerman [n=slasherx@24-247-171-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:21 < kboal> Hehe, I would, but my Linux skills are still pretty basic, I'm only 16 lol 03:21 < erus`> LOL 03:22 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:23 < kboal> Bah, leave me alone erus, :D 03:24 < erus`> im 16 for 23 more hours 03:24 < erus`> then omg your a young one 03:24 < erus`> 22 horus 30 mins 03:24 < kboal> Happy birthday then! 03:24 < erus`> about 03:25 < erus`> yeh time fo sleep 03:25 < erus`> its 03:25:13 03:25 -!- erus` [n=tmo@ACCA5F93.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 03:25 -!- justinhj [n=root@cpe-72-226-62-213.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:25 < justinhj> hi 03:26 < davidc___> ih 03:26 < justinhj> I've been following the howto at http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 03:26 < justinhj> everything went ok except I can only boot to the normal apple os 03:26 < kboal> Did you dd the patched firmware back in? 03:27 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:27 < justinhj> yeah to sda1 03:27 < davidc___> and if so, are you holding the key to boot the non-default-os? 03:27 < davidc___> you made appleos the default right? 03:27 -!- davidc___ is now known as davidc__ 03:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 03:27 < justinhj> well linux should be the default because I put it first in the make_fw 03:27 < davidc__> ah, don't touch the keypad then 03:27 < davidc__> at all 03:28 < justinhj> yeah I've tried that 03:28 < davidc__> there are some bugs with the bootloader on the touch sensitive ipods... 03:28 < davidc__> huh 03:28 < justinhj> I'm wondering if it's booting from the first partition 03:28 < davidc__> you sure you copied the right file back? 03:28 < davidc__> eh, it can only boot from there :P 03:28 < davidc__> it just loads part of that partition into that ram 03:28 < justinhj> thats what i thought 03:28 < davidc__> then jmp's there 03:28 < davidc__> if its not loading the bootloader - means the bootloader aint there :P 03:29 < davidc__> either that, or you're not telling the bootloader what to do right ;) 03:29 < davidc__> anyhow - which version of iPod? 03:29 < justinhj> 4gb nano 03:29 < davidc__> hrm 03:29 < justinhj> is the bootloader in loader.bin 03:29 < davidc__> yep 03:29 < davidc__> you ran make_fw 03:29 < davidc__> and dd'ed the produced image back right? 03:29 < justinhj> yeah 03:30 < justinhj> ../make_fw -g nano -o my_sw.bin -l 2006-03-17-kernel.bin -i apple_os.bin loader.bin 03:30 < davidc__> huh 03:30 < justinhj> dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/sda1 03:30 < imphasing_> Creepifying 03:30 < davidc__> that is odd. 03:30 < kboal> weird 03:30 < davidc__> maybe try doing the dd again? 03:30 < justinhj> so I always get the normal looking apple boot 03:30 < davidc__> best I can suggest 03:30 < imphasing_> Uh..is /dev/sda1 your ipod? 03:30 < davidc__> by all rights that should work 03:30 < imphasing_> For sure? 03:30 < davidc__> yeah- otherwise you've overwritten one of your HD partitions :P 03:30 < justinhj> yeah because otherwise i wouldn't have been able to grab the backup stuff 03:31 < imphasing_> not true 03:31 < imphasing_> :P 03:31 < justinhj> and i checked the backup file it is apple stuff 03:31 < imphasing_> You'd just be grabbing stuff from your hard drive 03:31 < davidc__> hrm 03:31 < davidc__> maybe just try again? 03:31 < justinhj> yes but it says in the hex dump "this is your apple ipod" 03:31 < davidc__> or have you tried a bunch already? 03:31 < davidc__> er.... 03:31 < davidc__> hex dump? 03:31 < davidc__> thats strange 03:31 < imphasing_> Do dmesg | grep sd 03:31 < davidc__> it should have a big STOP sign at the top 03:31 < imphasing_> and find the one that's the right size 03:32 < imphasing_> davidc__: Mine never have stop signs.. 03:32 < imphasing_> :( 03:32 < davidc__> imphasing_: ah, maybe they changed it post 1G ;) 03:32 < imphasing_> hehe 03:32 -!- oldschool_scott [n=Paul@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #iPodLinux 03:32 < oldschool_scott> hey 03:33 < imphasing_> wizard 03:33 < davidc__> hmm... oldschool_scott == oldschool_ipoder? 03:33 < justinhj> I'll try again 03:33 < oldschool_scott> yeh 03:33 < davidc__> justinhj: yeah.. sorry .. best we can suggest 03:33 < oldschool_scott> i am on my windows computer 03:33 < davidc__> justinhj: its definitely strange 03:33 < imphasing_> It's beard-scratchingly strange.. 03:34 < justinhj> let me paste in my fdisk for the drive and see if theres anything wrong there 03:34 < oldschool_scott> imphasing: am I wondering if you can help me with something, I want to make virtualball's directions for a mac installion of iNES 03:34 < oldschool_scott> into directions for Linux and Windows 03:34 < imphasing_> um 03:34 < imphasing_> ok... 03:34 < justinhj> Disk /dev/sda: 4095 MB, 4095737856 bytes 03:34 < justinhj> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 497 cylinders 03:34 < justinhj> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes 03:34 < justinhj> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 03:34 < justinhj> /dev/sda1 * 1 10 80293+ 0 Empty 03:34 < justinhj> /dev/sda2 * 11 430 3373650 b W95 FAT32 03:34 < justinhj> /dev/sda3 431 497 538177+ 83 Linux 03:35 < imphasing_> .flood 03:35 < imphasing_> :) 03:35 < justinhj> sorry ;-) 03:35 < davidc__> justinhj: thing is - if anything is really wrong- it should just crash :/ 03:35 < imphasing_> #ipodlinux.flood 03:35 < justinhj> right 03:35 < oldschool_scott> i set it up in the wiki, make tow title things, I am not experienced with Mac thoguh, :) 03:35 < davidc__> justinhj: sure you unmounted it right? 03:35 < davidc__> maybe it was still in the write cache or something 03:35 < justinhj> ok I'll make sure 03:36 < davidc__> try running a "sync" 03:36 < davidc__> before disconnecting it 03:37 < justinhj> gah 03:37 < justinhj> I'm sick of the stupid apple logo! 03:37 < imphasing_> Goddamnit, an object should go 130 meters in 5 seconds, at 9.8m/s.. 03:37 < oldschool_scott> ? 03:37 < imphasing_> s/should/shouldn't/ 03:37 < justinhj> depends on the angle 03:37 < imphasing_> um 03:37 < imphasing_> not really 03:37 < justinhj> lol 03:38 < imphasing_> I'm missing an important factor here.. 03:38 < oldschool_scott> imphasing: question, what ipod are you running? 03:38 < justinhj> s=ut+1/2at^2 03:38 < imphasing_> 5G 03:38 < oldschool_scott> kk 03:38 < imphasing_> v = v0 + at 03:38 < imphasing_> :P 03:38 < davidc__> imphasing_: er? 03:38 < imphasing_> That's velocity. 03:38 < oldschool_scott> lol, I am such a nerd I am watching Pireates of Silicon Valley 03:38 < davidc__> imphasing_: sure you don't mean 9.8m/s accelleration? 03:39 < imphasing_> um, yeah 03:39 < imphasing_> that 03:39 < imphasing_> :) 03:39 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-41dfdaca7fee7a49] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 < davidc__> that makes sense then 03:39 < davidc__> well, its closer :P 03:39 < imphasing_> In the real world, if you drop an object from 50 meters, it's not going to be going 50 meters per second in 5 seconds, I think 03:39 < imphasing_> It seems off.. 03:39 < imphasing_> 50m/s is damn fast 03:39 < davidc__> er, it will be 03:39 < davidc__> 9.8m/s/s * 5 seconds 03:40 < davidc__> but anyhow - theres air resistance to deal with 03:40 < davidc__> in the real world 03:40 < imphasing_> Nope, it'll be 25m/s 03:40 < imphasing_> :P 03:40 < imphasing_> it should 03:40 < imphasing_> becuase it starts from 0 03:40 < imphasing_> well yeah 03:40 < davidc__> er? 03:40 < oldschool_scott> god, I wish that guy would have continued that flash player, so much stuff 03:40 < davidc__> v = v0 + at 03:40 -!- karmon [n=karmon@MTL-HSE-ppp178494.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:40 < imphasing_> er 03:40 < imphasing_> yeah 03:40 < oldschool_scott> to be gained 03:40 < imphasing_> I'm thinking displacement 03:40 < imphasing_> :( 03:40 < davidc__> imphasing_: heh 03:41 < oldschool_scott> imphasing: are you doing some science thing? 03:41 < karmon> hey, i have a small problem when trying to run pz2 on my comp 03:41 < imphasing_> It's a physics library 03:41 < imphasing_> to be 03:41 < davidc__> er, displacement is 122.5m on that 03:41 < imphasing_> which is what it says.. 03:41 < imphasing_> but it seems wrong 03:41 < oldschool_scott> oh ok 03:41 < oldschool_scott> sweet 03:41 < imphasing_> Terminal velocity in m/s is.. 03:41 < imphasing_> what, 45m/s? 03:42 < imphasing_> for "mass" that isn't zero 03:42 < imphasing_> ah, 56m/s 03:42 < imphasing_> It doesn't seem right that an object should reach terminal velocity in 5 seconds 03:42 < imphasing_> then again, g = -9.8m/s^2// 03:42 < imphasing_> :( 03:43 < imphasing_> s/\/\/// 03:43 < oldschool_scott> wikipedia it :) 03:43 < justinhj> whats the problem, do you want to find u? 03:43 < justinhj> you have s, a and t 03:43 < imphasing_> I just want to see if my engine is "working" 03:43 < justinhj> ahh 03:43 < imphasing_> It's giving me answers, but they seem off 03:44 < justinhj> off by a linear amount? 03:44 < oldschool_scott> sweet, if you dont me asking, this engine is it for something? 03:44 < justinhj> if you shoot an object twice as fast is twice the error 03:44 < kboal> So can I safely say that the error lies in the kernel itself and I have done no wrong? < Well, at second 1, it says an object dropped from 50m, in free fall, it 4.9 meters down 03:44 < imphasing_> which is right 03:44 < imphasing_> and is going -9.8m/s 03:44 < imphasing_> which seems right.. 03:45 < kboal> if it's being dropped then your accelleration is positive 03:45 < imphasing_> negative 03:45 < imphasing_> :P 03:45 < imphasing_> -9.8m/s 03:45 < kboal> oh yeah 03:45 < kboal> lol 03:45 < imphasing_> I count "up" as positive 03:45 < kboal> oops 03:45 < oldschool_scott> well i no very little physics yet, but soon i will :) 03:45 < kboal> no 03:45 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:45 < kboal> acceleration is positive 03:46 < imphasing_> If it's acceleration was positive, it would be going up 03:46 < kboal> acceleration increases as an object falls... 03:46 < kboal> no 03:46 < imphasing_> negative acceleration implies a negative displacement 03:46 < imphasing_> :) 03:46 < imphasing_> the point the object falls from I count as "zero" 03:46 < imphasing_> and anything below that is negative 03:47 < kboal> so when it hits the ground it has a negative velocity? 03:47 < imphasing_> right 03:47 < kboal> ... 03:47 < imphasing_> becuase it's going down 03:47 < imphasing_> velocity is a vector 03:47 < kboal> good call 03:47 < kboal> lol 03:47 < imphasing_> hehe 03:47 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 03:47 < imphasing_> I should come up with some drag coefficients for generic objects.. 03:48 < kboal> why? 03:48 < imphasing_> Becuase it would suck to have to calculate the surface area of each object 03:48 < imphasing_> it'd be less accurate, but easier, to just use generic drag coeficcients 03:48 < kboal> if an iPod falls from the empire state building it will hit with a force large enough to destroy it regardless of whether or not we know true speed :) 03:48 < imphasing_> "penny" "tennis ball" "747" 03:48 < imphasing_> haha 03:49 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:49 < Chile`> imphasing_: do you have bounding spheres already? 03:49 < Chile`> bounding spheres/bounding boxes 03:49 < imphasing_> no. 03:49 < imphasing_> haha 03:49 < imphasing_> hell no 03:49 < Chile`> ah. this is really easy if you have bounding objects :p 03:49 < imphasing_> I'll probably just use a 0.001 meter box or something 03:49 < imphasing_> It's not really a game engine per se 03:49 < Chile`> what are you figuring out terminal velocity for that you're not doing collision detection on? 03:50 < josh_> 3 03:50 < imphasing_> There's no collision detection yet 03:50 < josh_> ^ ign 03:50 < imphasing_> But I'm doing a "ball dropped from x height" test 03:51 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@200.102.254.102] has joined #ipodlinux 03:52 -!- karmon [n=karmon@MTL-HSE-ppp178494.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:52 < oldschool_scott> can I have quick opinion this by somebody, a flash player port, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading ? 03:53 < imphasing_> uh 03:53 < imphasing_> I'm going to go ahead and guess vector graphics are heavy on floating point operations 03:53 < oldschool_scott> oh ok 03:54 < imphasing_> Chile`: My objects don't actually have dimenstions, just mass 03:54 < imphasing_> :) 03:54 < Chile`> imphasing_: kind of hard to compute surface area without dimensions ;) 03:54 < imphasing_> and location 03:54 < imphasing_> if someone wants to apply those locations and calculations to something, then they just do that 03:54 < imphasing_> hehe, yeah 03:55 < oldschool_scott> gtg 03:55 -!- oldschool_scott [n=Paul@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:55 < imphasing_> That's why I'd have generic drag coefficients 03:55 < courtc> haha, gnash gets 1.1 fps on a 1.33 Ghz proc, imagine it on the ipod... 03:55 < imphasing_> damn 03:55 < imphasing_> that could suck 03:55 < Chile`> you might draw a frame in a minute or so 03:56 < imphasing_> OR it might just bend your ipod over and violate it. 03:56 < kboal> that's just wrong 03:58 < kboal> So how do I pass the init= option to the kernel< 03:58 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:58 < imphasing_> It just looks for it in one spot, I think 03:58 < kboal> well apparently it's not the right spot then...because when i boot it can't find it 03:59 < imphasing_> I have to decide if I should start my calculations at 1 second, or 0 seconds.. 03:59 < Chile`> 0 will make it far easier. 04:00 < imphasing_> probably 04:00 < davidc__> gnash? 04:01 < imphasing_> It's the sound your computer makes when you try to play swf files with the GNU flash player 04:01 < davidc__> yea, read up 04:01 < davidc__> kboal: rebuild a kernel with it compiled in 04:01 < imphasing_> You can do that? 04:01 < imphasing_> :/ 04:01 < imphasing_> I thought the init had to be an external script/program 04:02 < davidc__> nono, the init= option compiled in ;) 04:02 < imphasing_> oh 04:02 < imphasing_> haha 04:02 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 < Alth> ...updated firmware, linux = gone. 04:02 < kboal> i downloaded the nightly...it was bin... 04:02 < kboal> and i don't have arm-elf-gcc anyway 04:03 < kboal> lol 04:03 < kboal> i can't imagine why this wouldn't work 04:03 < kboal> unless something is happening after i "eject /dev/sda" 04:03 < imphasing_> sudo umount /dev/sda1? 04:04 < kboal> would that be any different? 04:04 < imphasing_> probably not 04:04 < kboal> i'll try it...but i wouldn't be surprised if it does the same thing 04:05 < justinhj> hey does anyone know if the apple_os has a crc check or anything? 04:05 < justinhj> like if I hack the text in it, should it still work 04:05 < kboal> imphasing_: it no worky 04:05 -!- shadax`afk [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-120.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:06 < justinhj> damn, that would be a good test to see if what I'm writing to the ipod is actually trying to boot 04:06 < justinhj> because I keep getting the regular apple boot up 04:06 < davidc__> justinhj: er.. just edit the appleos.bin 04:07 < davidc__> the make_fw should recalc the checksums 04:07 < justinhj> thats what I was going to do 04:07 < davidc__> [IIRC] 04:07 < justinhj> ok 04:08 < Alth> Hmm. My iPod still has a 'linux' folder >.< 04:08 < davidc__> Alth: huh? 04:08 < davidc__> Alth: updaing the firmware doesn't wipe out the storage space 04:08 < davidc__> Alth: it just wipes out the FW partition 04:08 < Alth> davidc__: I updated Apple's firmware, and it now won't boot to Linux. 04:08 < Alth> That's what I figured, but... 04:08 < davidc__> Alth: yes, you wiped out the kernel 04:09 < Alth> Mmhmm. Not sure how -_- 04:09 < davidc__> Alth: by writing over the firmware partition 04:10 < Alth> Ah. 04:10 < Alth> So it's normal when updating Apple's firmware then? 04:11 < Alth> Ohh, sorry, I guess I read what you said wrong. *nods* 04:11 < Alth> So I just reinstall then? 04:11 < davidc__> eh, just the kernel 04:11 < davidc__> dont repartition 04:11 < davidc__> or touch the userland 04:11 < davidc__> just the make_fw + dd over the fw partition 04:11 -!- oldschool [n=scott@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #iPodLInux 04:12 < kboal> *picks up ipod and throws it across the room* 04:13 < Alth> Wait wait davidc__. Assume I'm a newbie. Step by step, what should I do? :P 04:14 < oldschool> heh heh 04:14 < davidc__> Alth: how did you install it last time? 04:14 < davidc__> kboal: hmm? 04:14 < Alth> *cough* A friend installed it for me -_- 04:15 < davidc__> Alth: what OS you on? 04:15 < Alth> I'm assuming he just used the windows installer. 04:15 < davidc__> ah.. you could probably just use that 04:15 < Alth> davidc__: XP Home. The iPod is a 1st gen mini. 04:16 -!- kboal is now known as __cdivad 04:16 < __cdivad> olleH 04:17 < Alth> Hehe. 04:17 < BHSPitLappy> ih 04:17 < BHSPitLappy> .elbatpeccanu si roivaheb taht 04:17 < __cdivad> yrros brb 04:18 -!- __cdivad is now known as kboal 04:18 < kboal> just trying to liven things up a bit :) 04:18 < Alth> >.< 04:18 < davidc__> why use my name backwards? 04:18 < davidc__> I should hand out kicks for that 04:18 < BHSPitLappy> it's bad enough forwards 04:18 < kboal> lmao 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> umm, I mean 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> what davidc__ said! 04:19 < kboal> okay okay sorry 04:19 -!- BHSPitLappy was kicked from #ipodlinux by davidc__ [its fine forward] 04:19 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:19 < imphasing_> zing. 04:20 < BHSPitLappy> humility++ 04:20 < kboal> LOL 04:20 -!- BigBoy99 [i=TMD410B@ppp-70-243-35-59.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:20 < oldschool> lol 04:21 < kboal> if(humility<=0){kick(BHSPitLappy)} 04:21 < BHSPitLappy> lol 04:22 < imphasing_> You know, I've never met a ghetto programmer.. 04:22 < imphasing_> with a platinum grill 04:22 < imphasing_> that would be sort of cool 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> ugh 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> what happened to you, imphasing_ 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> you used to be so normal... 04:23 < imphasing_> Hah, if you add up me and normal, the answer is negative. 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 04:23 < oldschool> lol, god, i am sick of arabfreak and jordy, they have like 5000 posts to themselves 04:23 < imphasing_> Implying that normality is positive 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> ya think 04:24 < BigBoy99> how bout me? 04:24 * Alth has linux back! <3 04:24 * BHSPitLappy has linux front 04:24 < Alth> >.< 04:24 < imphasing_> I've been around just long enough so that the developers don't see to despise me, and I have a fraction of their posts 04:25 < imphasing_> s/see/seem/ 04:25 < oldschool> anybody know of any open source flash players? 04:25 < imphasing_> gnash 04:25 < imphasing_> swf is a vector format, so it's going to be very cpui intesive no matter what 04:25 < oldschool> lol, looked at that, I think it might be to much for the iPod 04:25 < imphasing_> s/intesive/intensive/ 04:26 -!- oldschool [n=scott@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:26 < BHSPitLappy> buhbye 04:26 < BigBoy99> adios 04:27 -!- oldschool [n=scott@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #iPodLinux 04:27 < oldschool> clicked wrong window 04:27 < imphasing_> What sort of POSIX operating system requires you to -pay- to join the beta test program.. 04:28 < oldschool> hm, never heard of POSIX 04:28 * imphasing_ gasps 04:28 < justinhj> it's a version of unix for retailers 04:28 < justinhj> point of sale ix 04:28 < imphasing_> er 04:28 < imphasing_> no 04:29 < imphasing_> it's an Os standard 04:29 < oldschool> oh 04:29 < oldschool> ok 04:29 -!- bjt32 [n=bjt32@cpe-24-170-18-66.jam.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:29 < imphasing_> "POSIX is the collective name of a family of related standards specified by the IEEE to define the application programming interface (API) for software compatible with variants of the Unix OS." 04:29 -!- bjt32 is now known as Brian2 04:29 < Brian2> what up? 04:29 < justinhj> humour detector failed imphasing 04:29 < imphasing_> yep 04:29 < oldschool> hmm, sounds very Microsoftish 04:29 < imphasing_> haha.. 04:29 < oldschool> if that is a word 04:30 < BHSPitLappy> it is, but they own the rights to it. pay up. 04:31 -!- BigBoy99 [i=TMD410B@ppp-70-243-35-59.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit ["www.tmdmoviez.com TMD Recruit Pack Version 4.10B"] 04:32 < justinhj> wtf 04:34 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=dsf@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-66-95-230.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 < oldschool> you know what would be so stupid it would be hilarious, try to port bochs to iPL and then run Windows 95 04:36 < oldschool> pointless though... 04:38 < justinhj> hey in the tutorial it says you don't need to copy the module libs if you use a nightly build 04:39 < davidc__> oldschool: it wouldn't work 04:39 < justinhj> is that correct, because I'm up and running now and that's the only thing I did different, I did copy some on there 04:39 < davidc__> you don't need to 04:39 < davidc__> sounds like it wasn't actually writing to the drive 04:39 < davidc__> sometimes it gets cached before being written 04:40 < davidc__> maybe copying the modules forced the other stuff outta the cache 04:40 < justinhj> yeah could have been that. now i can actually have fun with this thing ;-) 04:40 < davidc__> justinhj: enjoy ;) 04:40 < davidc__> justinhj: gonna code some stuff for it? 04:41 < justinhj> not yet 04:42 < justinhj> jsust going to play with other peoples stuff 04:42 < oldschool> hmm, I thought you could port bochs to just about anything 04:42 < justinhj> can it do sockets via the link lable? 04:42 < justinhj> that would open up some interesting apps 04:42 < justinhj> cable 04:45 < Brian2> not yet I don't think 04:48 < oldschool> i wonder why bochs would not be portable? 04:48 < BHSPitLappy> they have it on PSP 04:49 < oldschool> true 04:49 < oldschool> davidc_: why? 04:49 < Brian2> download the source and get on it.. lol 04:49 < BHSPitLappy> and it takes for-EVER for win95 to start for the psp 04:49 < BHSPitLappy> so, imagine the iPod. 04:49 < oldschool> i would try it for fun :) 04:49 < oldschool> it it wouldnt take long to port 04:50 < imphasing_> uh huh.. 04:50 < davidc__> oldschool: ram. 04:50 < Brian2> lol 04:50 < davidc__> oldschool: doubt you'd have enough 04:50 < justinhj> running windows on a psp, I can't think of anything more painful 04:51 < justinhj> it's bad enough in 1gb of ram 04:51 < oldschool> could you use a older version of windows like Windows 3.x i think 04:51 < oldschool> ha ha 04:51 < imphasing_> or DOS...or not. 04:52 < imphasing_> You have to ask yourself, "What's the point?" 04:52 < oldschool> i am not really serious, just thought about it, an dit is pointless 04:52 < oldschool> and it* 04:52 < justinhj> I can't talk, I just installed linux on my ipod lol 04:53 < justinhj> just watching it boot is too funny 04:53 < imphasing_> davidc__: Am I right in thinking that there is an RS232 interface in the dock connector? 04:53 < Brian2> yeah.. probably 04:53 < davidc__> imphasing_: yep, but ttl levels 04:53 < imphasing_> ah.. 04:53 < Brian2> but doesn't seem like anyone has used it I don't think 04:53 < davidc__> also - doesnt work on newer iPods 04:53 < imphasing_> Probably how all those dock-connected accesories communicate/control the ipod.. 04:54 < davidc__> we havent figured how to wake it up 04:54 < Brian2> I really want to try it.. looked at best buy to see if I could find a connector to disassemble and use but couldn't find anything cheap 04:54 < imphasing_> interesting.. 04:54 < imphasing_> It would be so kickass to have a get an ipod terminal on your computer 04:54 < imphasing_> I would love that 04:54 < Brian2> or nintendo controller.. or gps.. 04:54 < oldschool> well i gtg cya 04:54 -!- oldschool [n=scott@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:54 < Brian2> or live terminal to help with debugging 04:54 < imphasing_> I would build myself a cable in a heartbeat 04:56 < Brian2> thinking about getting my gf a 1 or 2 gig nano tommorow for anniversary.. going to make a video that comes up when she turns it on : ) 04:56 < imphasing_> hehe 04:56 < imphasing_> Sometimes I wish there was a standalone player for the ipod.. 04:56 < Brian2> just.. got three reports to write by tuesday.. and gotta fit this in somehow.. and my b-day is monday 04:56 < Brian2> hrmm 04:56 < Brian2> oh.. is there not? 04:56 < Brian2> I was assuming there was 04:56 < imphasing_> it might be an interesting project to whip one up with hotdog + aegray's code 04:56 < imphasing_> nope 04:57 < imphasing_> Actaully, hotdog would be redundant 04:57 < Brian2> well crap.. I'm going to have trouble then.. I was assuming it was standalone 04:57 < Brian2> so I could just make it start it on boot 04:58 * imphasing_ goes back to working on impulse code 04:58 < Brian2> what are you writing? 04:59 < rmh3093> imphasing_: yea having the serial interface would be nice, ive been wanting to hook my Basic Stamp up to the ipod 04:59 < imphasing_> "Fizz Physics Engine; a basic library for calculating physical properties of an object" 04:59 < Brian2> ah 05:00 < Brian2> hrmm.. any way to tell podzilla to play a vid when it starts up? heh 05:01 < davidc__> Brian2: code one 05:02 < Brian2> alrighty 05:02 < davidc__> Brian2: sparkfun has the connectors - so does ridax on the forums 05:02 < Brian2> just making sure I wasn't reinventing the wheel : ) 05:02 < Brian2> ooh.. sparkfun has lots of cool stuff 05:02 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 05:02 < Brian2> I'll get a couple soon then 05:03 < kboal> I officially give up. 05:03 < davidc__> yeah, sparkfun is crazy 05:03 < Brian2> what's up kboal? 05:03 < davidc__> very dangerous site if you have a credit card 05:03 < Brian2> so video is a module of pz I guess? 05:04 < davidc__> pz is not in modules 05:04 < davidc__> its pz2 that is 05:04 < Brian2> oh.. I'm still confused as to which is which.. sorry.. hah 05:04 < kboal> Well I've been trying to figure out why my kernel panics everytime I boot, I've tried 4 or 5 different nightlys, two different userlands. It's not that the iPod went to sleep then woke up and didn't work, even after clean installs it keeps saying it can't find init and to pass the init= option to the kernel 05:04 < Brian2> so it's built in pz 05:05 < davidc__> do you have the userland installed? 05:05 < davidc__> kboal: is the symlink right? 05:05 < davidc__> is the partition scheme right? 05:06 < davidc__> [aka, make sure its mounting your linux drive rather than the fat music storage one] 05:06 < kboal> No, I've thrown myself at the feet of total incompentence and decided to leave the userland out :) 05:06 < kboal> yes, as far as i can tell it is fine 05:06 -!- kuchdawg [n=kuchdawg@64-126-41-241-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 05:06 < kboal> oh 05:06 < kboal> wait 05:06 < Brian2> hehe 05:07 < kboal> mounting the linux partition instead of the music partition...hmm 05:07 < Brian2> you would need the userland to have init right? 05:07 < kboal> well it doesn't mount the music partition until it reaches the rc right? 05:08 < davidc__> if you're drive numbers are backwards 05:08 < kboal> I have a user land and it has a symbolic link called init in sbin. 05:08 < kboal> nope my linux partition is sda3 05:08 < kboal> unless that's backwards 05:09 < Brian2> works on the nano.. and 5g 05:09 < Brian2> pretty sure 05:09 < kboal> what works on the nano? 05:09 < Brian2> having it on the third partition.. 05:09 < kboal> oh 05:09 < kboal> yeah it should work 05:09 < Brian2> if that's what you meant.. sorry may have misunderstood you 05:10 < kboal> i don't think there is a problem with the partitioning...although i can't imagine it would hurt to try moving them around... 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> awesome... $20 128x128 color lcd 05:11 < Brian2> yeah.. i saw that somewhere 05:11 < kboal> ah wait 05:11 < Brian2> that on sparkfun? or somewhere else 05:11 < justinhj> hey is there a newbie guide to podzilla 05:11 < BHSPitLappy> sparkfun 05:11 < kboal> a sudden ray of light 05:11 < Brian2> partition isn't too big is it? or something 05:11 < kboal> "attempt to access beyond end of device" 05:11 < kboal> partition is too small 05:12 < kboal> i think the kernel is expecting a larger drive... 05:12 < Brian2> how big is the partition? 05:12 < davidc__> er, attempt to access beyond end of device means your partitioning is bad 05:12 < davidc__> or your formatting is bad 05:13 < Brian2> hrm 05:13 < kboal> hm 05:13 < kboal> sda1 is empty type 05:14 < justinhj> ok stupid question coming: do I have to copy music to the ipod using itunes for podzilla to see it ? 05:14 < kboal> sda2 is W95 FAT32 05:14 < kboal> sda3 is Linux (ext2) 05:14 < Brian2> you did the makefs stuff right? 05:15 < kboal> si senor...mkdosfs for sda2 and mk2fs for sda3 05:15 < Brian2> hrmm 05:15 < Brian2> 5g? 05:15 < kboal> nano 05:15 < kboal> i dunno 05:15 < kboal> lol 05:15 < Brian2> hrmm 05:16 < kboal> justinhj: just put it anywhere...everything gets mounted anyways you can use file browser to find and play them 05:16 < justinhj> Groovy 05:17 < kboal> Is there really something wrong with my formatting? it's not supposed to be like ext3 or something else is it? 05:17 < justinhj> mine is ext2 05:17 < justinhj> and it seems to work 05:17 < kboal> hm 05:18 < justinhj> what are the start and end of your partitions 05:18 < kboal> ever get a kernel panic because it can't find init? 05:18 < kboal> sda1: start 1 end 10 05:18 < kboal> sda2: start 11 end 465 05:18 < kboal> sda3 start 466 and 497 05:18 -!- imphasing_ [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:19 < Brian2> what size nano? 05:19 < kboal> 4GB 05:19 -!- yuriks_ [n=yuriks@200.102.92.25] has joined #ipodlinux 05:20 < justinhj> my sda1 is the same size 05:20 < justinhj> so maybe your image is too big? 05:20 < Brian2> don't see anything wrong with that.. yeah.. my sda1 is the same size 05:20 < kboal> is my sda3 too small? 05:20 < Brian2> it's not too small 05:20 < Brian2> mine is smaller 05:21 < justinhj> my image is 6Mb how big is yours 05:21 < kboal> find out i shall 05:22 < justinhj> yo yoda 05:22 -!- yuriks [n=yuriks@200.102.254.102] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:23 -!- yuriks_ is now known as yuriks 05:23 < Brian2> and you unmounted before disconnecting I assume? 05:24 < kboal> 6.4 MB 05:24 < kboal> yes i umounted 05:25 < justinhj> are you using the latest kernel and podzilla 05:25 < kboal> aye 05:25 < kboal> i have tried 3-16 kernel and 3-17 kernel 05:25 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:25 < kboal> as well as an old podzilla nad 3-17 podzilla 05:26 < justinhj> is it a nano? 05:26 < BHSPitLappy> kboal: I guess you just -really- suck 05:26 < kboal> yeah its a nano 05:26 < justinhj> does your apple os compare to this... 05:27 < kboal> yeah...i know BHSPitLappy...I think I'm gonna have to shoot myself! 05:27 * BHSPitLappy wrings hands together and laughs 05:27 < justinhj> 4731184 2006-03-18 18:30 ipod/apple_os.bin 05:28 < justinhj> one thing I tried was adding the libs/modules folder even though it's not needed 05:28 < justinhj> you could try that, as a lucky charm 05:28 < kboal> no mine is slightly larger 05:29 < kboal> 5073696 05:29 < justinhj> have you got a hex editor 05:29 < justinhj> it should start off !ATA 05:29 < kboal> i'll see if i can find one 05:30 < justinhj> i use emacs 05:31 < kboal> yes it starts out !ATA 05:31 < justinhj> sounds right then 05:32 < kboal> what are the starts and ends of your partitions..i'll try copying those and see if it makes a difference 05:33 < kboal> unless it's not a 4GB nano 05:33 < kboal> then it wouldn't work out too nicely 05:33 < justinhj> /dev/sda1 * 1 10 80293+ 0 Empty 05:33 < justinhj> /dev/sda2 * 11 430 3373650 b W95 FAT32 05:33 < justinhj> /dev/sda3 431 497 538177+ 83 Linux 05:33 < justinhj> yeah mines a 4 too 05:34 < justinhj> and I spent all afternoon getting it to work 05:34 < kboal> :) 05:34 < justinhj> a few hours of which involved headbutting the desk 05:34 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:34 < kboal> i remember when i first got it running on my 3g when they first started developing this project 05:35 < kboal> head banging is a great stress reliever 05:35 < justinhj> sometimes it's the only way to make progress 05:35 < kboal> exactly 05:35 < justinhj> so was yours working and now it's not? 05:35 < kboal> si 05:35 < justinhj> man 05:36 * Brian2 works on compiling podzilla 05:37 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["*poof*"] 05:38 < justinhj> this project is great, it's such a relief to be able to use my ipod like any normal mp3 player 05:39 < kboal> which userland are you using? 05:39 < justinhj> ie just dump a load of mp3s on it and run 05:39 < justinhj> then take them to work and copy them there 05:39 < justinhj> I'll check 05:39 < kboal> this project is great, it's such a relief to be able to use my ipod as a web server :D 05:39 < Brian2> eh.. you can't right now.. 05:39 < justinhj> lol 05:39 < justinhj> it would be 05:40 < Brian2> well.. technically you can.. but only your ipod can visit the server 05:40 < kboal> yeah, i agree, it's awesome to be able to drag and drop 05:40 < Brian2> heh 05:40 < kboal> hey, that just gives it all the more bandwidth :) 05:40 < justinhj> so you can serve up web pages on your ipod, for your ipod? 05:40 < justinhj> thats just groovy 05:41 < kboal> crazy isnt it? 05:41 < davidc__> justinhj: eh - we still use the iTunesDB ;) 05:41 < kboal> i saw something about wikipedia on the website...does that really work? 05:41 < justinhj> we need to write a high level programming language that lends itself to being programmed by a wheel 05:41 < davidc__> justinhj: the reason we do that is because the time to index 60 GB of mp3's is unrealistic 05:41 < justinhj> hey I've only got 4gb to worry about 05:42 < davidc__> justinhj: eh, but we've gotta support all models ;) 05:42 < Brian2> I guess it would be possible to make it index and copy files that were copied to a certain directory 05:43 < davidc__> even still - indexing all 4 GB 05:43 < justinhj> true 05:43 < davidc__> Brian2: yep - an incoming directory is a possibility 05:43 < justinhj> I have music on my debian system in /var/music 05:43 < davidc__> indexing mp3's isn't exactly simple 05:43 < justinhj> and on my ipod now 05:43 < davidc__> finding id3 tags requires more than a trivial effort 05:44 < Brian2> find a library to do it or something maybe 05:44 < kboal> okay so no it doesn't try to look past the end of the device....but now it can't open an initial console and it still can't find init 05:44 < justinhj> what did you change to get to this new wonderful state of affairs? 05:44 < davidc__> kboal: still sounds like you're stuff is formatted / etc wrong 05:44 < kboal> i copied your partitioning oh guru :D 05:44 < davidc__> can't open initial console means /dev isnt there 05:45 < davidc__> did you reformat after repartitioning? 05:45 < davidc__> and reinstall userland? 05:45 < kboal> yes 05:45 < kboal> mk2fs and mkdosfs and all that right? 05:45 < kboal> and untar the userland in /dev/sda3 05:46 < BHSPitLappy> mke2fs right 05:46 < kboal> yeah i did that 05:46 < kboal> oh hello 05:47 < kboal> mount_dev_fs():unable to mount devfs, error: -5 05:47 < justinhj> have you tried touching all the files 05:47 < kboal> what do you mean? 05:47 < justinhj> find . | xargs touch 05:47 < justinhj> something i saw in one of the tutorials 05:47 < kboal> what's it do? 05:47 < justinhj> and chmod root:root * 05:48 < justinhj> it sets the last modified date to now 05:48 < kboal> where do i do that...in my sda3? 05:48 < justinhj> some of the files i got had wacky dates 05:48 < kboal> yeah 1903 05:48 < justinhj> yeah on the userland files 05:48 < BHSPitLappy> that's normal. 05:48 < justinhj> ok 05:49 < justinhj> i saw those two steps in a troubleshooting guide somewhere, they didn't help but there you go 05:49 < kboal> lol 05:49 < justinhj> just headbutt the desk a couple more times 05:49 < Brian2> hrm.. so.. I'm an idiot and learning how to use cvs.. should "cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux login" do something? lol 05:50 < Brian2> it asks for a password and then just stares at me 05:50 < Brian2> (I hit enter and nothing happens) 05:50 < BHSPitLappy> hit enter... 05:50 < BHSPitLappy> read the effing instructions 05:50 < Brian2> I did.. ok.. read them again.. lol 05:50 < kboal> yeah it didnt work for me either... 05:50 < Brian2> sorry for asking.. hah.. just confusing I guess 05:50 < kboal> and touch returns a input/output error 05:51 < BHSPitLappy> Brian2: but the sf sourceforge never works 05:51 < BHSPitLappy> so don't beat yourself up 05:51 < davidc__> kboal: sounsd like your partitioning / formatting is fucked up 05:51 < justinhj> if that happens the server is own 05:51 < justinhj> down 05:51 < Brian2> thanks.. 05:51 < kboal> how would you suggest I repartition? 05:51 < justinhj> sometimes it's just busy and you can try again shortly 05:52 < BHSPitLappy> with a very fine blade 05:52 < justinhj> kboal is touch returning an error because of user permissions or writeableness? 05:52 < kboal> wellll i have an exacto knife here....do you suppose it'll cut through the plastic nicely? 05:52 < BHSPitLappy> fantastic 05:52 < kboal> well i'm doing it as root... 05:53 < kboal> touch: cannot touch `./bin': Input/output error 05:53 -!- monochrome [n=mini_mon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861458.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 -!- monochrome is now known as do_me_nice 05:53 < kboal> writeableness i'd think 05:53 < davidc__> kboal: your. partitioning. is. fucked 05:53 < kboal> so i guess i should use that exacto knife now huh! 05:53 < justinhj> can you do chmod a+w on the files 05:54 < justinhj> dont hurt your nano man, hurt yourself 05:54 < justinhj> lol 05:54 < kboal> lol 05:54 < kboal> okie doke...i give up for tonight...i'll take another stab at it tomorrow 05:54 < kboal> haha get it...stab 05:55 -!- kboal [n=kboal@c-24-147-74-88.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:56 < Brian2> hrmm 05:57 < justinhj> hahaa 05:57 < Brian2> go go sf 05:58 < justinhj> i gotta go, thanks for the help 05:58 -!- justinhj [n=root@cpe-72-226-62-213.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 05:59 < Brian2> grr at sf 06:01 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:09 < Brian2> lalala 06:16 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has quit ["C:\DOS. 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I'm probably not the one to talk to :) 09:30 -!- fo [n=brianmun@S01060011952ced7f.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:30 < fo> hi guys 09:43 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-24-144.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:50 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-35-184.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 09:54 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-35-184.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:08 -!- imphasing_ [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:09 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 10:13 -!- hankhill2 [n=ccros2@pool-71-104-128-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 10:25 -!- timmah [n=timah@pool-71-104-128-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:26 < timmah> hey 10:26 < timmah> is anyone here ? 10:30 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd12a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:31 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:41 -!- Terrablebyte [n=connor@user-697.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 10:43 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-24-144.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:44 -!- fo [n=brianmun@S01060011952ced7f.vs.shawcable.net] has quit [] 10:45 -!- fhunngu [n=meng@adsl-216-94-27-202.kwic.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:02 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-24-144.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:03 -!- timmah [n=timah@pool-71-104-128-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 11:12 -!- erus` [n=tmo@ACCA5F93.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:14 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:24 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:25 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Yøu sunk my bättleship."] 11:26 -!- Kraln [n=Kraln@c-69-140-32-58.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:26 < Kraln> 4G iPod. 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Is that stored somewhere? 18:16 -!- monochrome is now known as do_me_nice 18:18 -!- Terrablebyte [n=connor@user-5923.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 -!- Terrablebyte [n=connor@user-5923.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 18:22 < whyte_boi> still doesnt work 18:22 < Brian2> anyone tried the cvs stuff recently? 18:26 < do_me_nice> cvs = piece of crap 18:27 < Brian2> ok.. lol.. just trying to build podzilla.. but can't get the microwindows stuff off cvs 18:27 < Brian2> keeps timing out 18:27 < Brian2> tried last night too 18:30 < Brian2> cvs [login aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: M -!- Client or Server timeout occurred! 18:30 < Chile`> sf cvs blows goats. 18:31 < Brian2> I guess I'm doing this right.. lol 18:31 < Brian2> only used cvs a couple times.. need to try it with some of my projects I guess 18:31 < Brian2> or svn 18:32 < Chile`> I don't really like cvs/svn.. I'd much rather use perforce, if I'm just doing source control, or something like aegis if I want actual project management. 18:32 < Brian2> hrmm.. not familiar with those 18:32 < Brian2> any other way to get this microwindows stuff? heh about to give up on sf 18:38 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-113-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 < whyte_boi> im getting this error rename call returned error: invalid cross-device link 18:52 -!- whyte_boi [i=kurt_cob@CPE00d009feacea-CM0011e6beb4fd.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 19:06 -!- dpro [n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:12 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-088-073-113-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:17 -!- Terrablebyte [n=connor@user-5923.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 19:28 -!- hhehw_ [n=xboxhheh@pool-68-237-1-27.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:34 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:40 < do_me_nice> http://pastebin.com/611151 19:40 < do_me_nice> i get this error while compiling an emulator (game gear) 19:40 < do_me_nice> any ideas of whats wrong? 19:40 -!- _bas [n=bas@84.86.61.144] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 < _bas> Just installed ipodloader2 on my 4G iPod, and after some hacking on the code, got it to work. 19:43 < _bas> Only when I boot the retailOS, the screen is inverted (like this: http://web.woodpecker.gotdns.org/ipod_flip.png) 19:43 < _bas> Is the cause of this known? did found it kind'a funny... :-) 19:46 < do_me_nice> ive never heard of that happening 19:46 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye !"] 19:47 < imphasing_> do_me_nice: That means those functions aren't in the library or objects you're compiling 19:49 < do_me_nice> imphasing: how would i fix that? 19:49 < imphasing_> I dunno? 19:49 < imphasing_> What are those functions doing? 19:49 < imphasing_> What are they supposed to do? 19:49 < imphasing_> Where do they exist? 19:50 < do_me_nice> its a gamegear emulator... thats for when you end the emulator 19:50 < do_me_nice> exit 19:50 < do_me_nice> maybe I messed something up... ill take another look 19:53 -!- Joel [n=chatzill@h225n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:53 -!- Joel is now known as Enk 19:53 < do_me_nice> ok that was my fault... thanks 19:53 < Enk> How the heck do i uninstall pz2? :P 19:54 < Enk> i have deleted the start-file, but it keeps booting pz2 :s 19:55 < imphasing_> just put this in your start file: 19:55 < imphasing_> rm /sbin/podzilla 19:55 < imphasing_> probably 19:55 < imphasing_> I don't know how you have it set up 19:55 < Enk> ok, thanks, i'll try 19:55 < Enk> =) 19:56 < Brian2> ok.. so.. any way to build podzilla without the sf microwindows stuff? 19:56 < Brian2> on cvs 19:56 < Brian2> i have given up on the cvs working.. 19:56 < imphasing_> Enk: That WILL delete podzilla, but you won't have any podzilla then 19:56 < imphasing_> you'll need to put a daily podizlla on after that 19:57 < Brian2> maybe my nat is blocking cvs.. somehow? I dunno 19:57 < Enk> I hade the old pz-files, the "podzilla" and "start", so i uploaded them to my ipod and now it works =) 19:57 < imphasing_> ah, cool 19:57 < Enk> yeah 19:57 < Enk> I really like ipl, its cool as heck =D 19:58 < Enk> but is there anyway to run commands directly on the ipod? 19:58 < Enk> i cant find any shell 20:00 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:09 -!- Brian2 [n=bjt32@cpe-24-170-18-66.jam.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:16 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:16 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-242-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:18 -!- shadax`afk [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-120.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:27 < do_me_nice> grrr... 20:29 -!- imphasing_ [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:29 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-146-147.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:33 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-120.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:35 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-205-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:36 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-120.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:38 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-244-79.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodlinux 20:39 -!- do_me_nice [n=mini_mon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861458.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:42 < Terrablebyte> I have a slight problem. 20:42 < Terrablebyte> When I boot up pz2, it crashes when it is 'Initializing modules', when the loading bar is at about 40%. I have to reboot. 20:42 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:45 < Terrablebyte> Anyone know what's wrong? 20:48 < BHSPitLappy> did you install mpd? 20:49 < Terrablebyte> yep 20:50 < Terrablebyte> Sorry, this is because I just installed mpd 20:50 < Terrablebyte> Didn't explain very well 20:51 < Terrablebyte> I've just instaled mpd, and now pz2 hangs on the Initializing modules bar. 20:56 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 20:56 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 20:57 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=dsf@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 < Enk> do anyone sit on a guide for installing mpd? the wiki-page doesn't give me much :/ 21:03 -!- niZe [n=6972niZe@85-18-136-96.fastres.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:06 -!- riq [n=riq@96-209-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:12 -!- do_me_nice [n=mini_mon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861458.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 21:17 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:17 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:20 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-244-79.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 21:23 -!- _bas [n=bas@84.86.61.144] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:26 < Enk> what's the difference between podzilla and floydzilla? what i can see it's nothing? 21:27 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:27 < imphasing> floydzilla is just a podzilla that some dude compiled 21:28 < imphasing> with a little bit of extra stuff 21:29 < Enk> e.g? 21:29 -!- riq [n=riq@96-209-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ipodlinux 21:31 < imphasing> uh 21:31 < imphasing> iboy? 21:31 < imphasing> and other crap that semi-intelligent people don't want 21:36 < Enk> hokay 21:36 < Enk> then i suppose it's not worth it, i'll put some energy on installing mpd instead. =) 21:37 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:47 -!- niZe [n=6972niZe@85-18-136-96.fastres.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:56 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd12a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["XChat Aqua"] 21:58 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-146-147.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:02 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:05 -!- Terrablebyte [n=connor@user-5923.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:06 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:10 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslb-088-072-205-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:20 -!- fhunngu [n=meng@adsl-216-94-27-202.kwic.com] has quit ["I said, "cut" the red wire..!!"] 22:27 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 < do_me_nice> does someone want to test my binary and tell me what im doing wrong? 22:40 < do_me_nice> =) 22:40 < DarthShrine> Hehe 22:41 < do_me_nice> http://www.geocities.com/hojackoff99/sms.zip 22:43 < do_me_nice> what does pid 47 failed 256 mean? 22:46 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:50 -!- SpAiC [i=Spaic@81-233-91-109-no75.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #iPodlinux 22:51 < SpAiC> I have a real quick question about iBoy, anyone able to help? 22:59 < BHSPitMonkey> probably not 23:01 < imphasing> Depends on how quick the question is 23:02 -!- do_me_nice [n=mini_mon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3861458.sympatico.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:03 < erus`> depends wether you ever state the question also 23:03 < Enk> =D 23:04 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool249-193.nas3.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:04 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-146-188.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-3pool240-187.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:12 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=dsf@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:17 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as BamaWOLF 23:20 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bcf48a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:23 -!- Enk_ [n=chatzill@h225n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:23 -!- Enk [n=chatzill@h225n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:24 -!- Enk_ is now known as Enk 23:24 < Enk> imphasing: how do i access /etc on my ipod from my pc? :o 23:28 < BHSPitLappy> by installing linux first 23:29 < Enk> oh, so i cant install mpd without installing linux on my pc :/ 23:29 < BHSPitLappy> need to use start files 23:29 < BHSPitLappy> which suck 23:29 < BHSPitLappy> much easier with linux 23:29 < Takuya> Linux/UNIX 23:29 < Takuya> /Mac :P 23:30 < Enk> yeye =D 23:30 < Enk> i'll give the start files a try. 23:30 < Enk> i think 23:31 < Takuya> Portage rocks 23:33 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:35 < imphasing> If you're into Gentoo, sure 23:41 < Enk> ahhhh :P can someone help me set up mpd from windoze? i'm getting really confused ^^ 23:44 -!- bholland [i=bholland@207.194.78.111] has joined #ipodlinux 23:47 < BHSPitLappy> hey bholland 23:47 < bholland> hey 23:47 < BHSPitLappy> I made an iBoy picture, lol 23:47 < BHSPitLappy> boredom strikes again 23:48 < bholland> lol yeah I made the picture that is now on the iBoy wiki page 23:48 < bholland> like you said boredom 23:48 < BHSPitLappy> o noes 23:49 < BHSPitLappy> we did basically the same thing at the same time lol 23:49 < BHSPitLappy> actually mine's the opposite 23:49 < bholland> can I see? 23:49 < BHSPitLappy> does it work on 5G? 23:49 < bholland> yeah 23:53 < BHSPitLappy> oh cool 23:54 < BHSPitLappy> how's the key config? 23:54 < bholland> same as the 4G 23:54 < bholland> but you can change it from the config file... 23:54 < BHSPitLappy> neat 23:54 < BHSPitLappy> does it allow combos? 23:56 < bholland> I don't know, I think so. I havn't actually tried it myself. No 5G :( 23:56 < bholland> thank goodness for testers... --- Log closed Mon Mar 20 00:00:00 2006