--- Log opened Sat Mar 04 00:00:02 2006 00:02 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:04 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-86-155.dialup.clear.net.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:05 < Ramzi22> it seems the hotdog demo code for hte keypad isnt working on the 5g 00:06 < Ramzi22> err not keyboad but the buttons and stuff 00:06 < Ramzi22> cause it doesnt repsond, when i press anything 00:06 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: Does it -really- matter :p? 00:07 < Ramzi22> but i added circle_rotate calls in the main loop and those execute repedatively, so its not geting hung up, its just not recognizing the key press 00:07 < Ramzi22> it seems 00:16 < slasherx> is anyone willing to help i and another person try to get a module started? 00:16 < slasherx> got some errors when trying to compile, but cant figure them out 00:17 < erus`> what are they? 00:17 < slasherx> mind doing it in pm? dont wanna be embarassed by the noobishness lol 00:17 < slasherx> bah 00:17 < slasherx> well 00:17 < slasherx> there are a few things that say they are undeclared 00:17 < slasherx> first use in the function 00:18 < erus`> pm then 00:19 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host70-57.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 00:20 < slasherx> oh bah 00:20 < slasherx> un regd 00:20 < slasherx> things like cleanup_formula 00:21 < slasherx> and new_formula_window 00:21 < slasherx> are undeclared 00:21 < slasherx> how do i make them "declared" 00:22 < erus`> you do void new_formula_window( args ) { function code } 00:22 < slasherx> i have that.. 00:22 < slasherx> void cleanup_formula() 00:22 < slasherx> { 00:22 < slasherx> printf ("Bye-bye now...\n"); 00:22 < slasherx> } 00:23 < slasherx> for cleanup_formula 00:23 < slasherx> but it says its undeclared 00:23 < erus`> oh just paste your hole script and add the compile errors at the bottom :) 00:23 < courtc> whole* 00:24 < erus`> yes 00:24 < slasherx> well i moved void_cleanup_formula{} above where it calls it from 00:24 < slasherx> and that fixed that problem 00:24 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-66-188-9.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 < slasherx> just a sec 00:28 < slasherx> ok 00:28 < slasherx> just got it down to errno undeclared 00:30 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-66-188-9.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:30 < slasherx> wow, i did all by myself 00:30 * slasherx grins 00:33 < slasherx> how come i cant find it when i run pz2 though? 00:34 < erus`> yey i love it when that happens 00:34 < erus`> no reason why or anything 00:34 < slasherx> hmm 00:34 < erus`> basicly you defined a function or var that it cant find ( i think ) 00:34 < slasherx> void init_formula() /* Name is whatever you want */ 00:34 < slasherx> { 00:34 < slasherx> module = pz_register_module ("Formula", cleanup_formula); 00:34 < slasherx> pz_menu_add_action ("/Extras/Stuff/Formula", new_formula_window); 00:34 < slasherx> } 00:35 < slasherx> thats the only place i see that states where to put it.. 00:35 < erus`> ye i know.. but that wont be called if one of the functions or vars cant be found 00:36 < slasherx> hmm 00:36 < erus`> IpodLinux devs: is there anyway of adding some debug info like why its not coming up on menu please. 00:36 < BHSPitLappy> take your pastes somewhere else, please... 00:36 < BHSPitLappy> 5 lines is really pushing it.. 00:36 < slasherx> sorry.. 00:36 < BHSPitLappy> that's what #ipodlinux.flood 00:36 < BHSPitLappy> is for :) 00:37 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: One word per line would have had better effect :p. 00:37 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:37 < BHSPitLappy> meh, wasn't going for effect 00:37 < BHSPitLappy> going for premature return-key neutralization 00:37 < erus`> do you guys ever get a problem where your module wont show up on the menu? 00:38 -!- STARS_Ghostwa121 [n=Habsfan_@toronto-HSE-ppp3944429.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 00:38 < STARS_Ghostwa121> Hey I rly need help 00:38 < slasherx> ? 00:39 < STARS_Ghostwa121> im trying to install podzilla 00:39 < STARS_Ghostwa121> and i made a mistake 00:39 < slasherx> ok.. 00:39 < josh_> erus`: as for the c++ thing, your init func needs to be extern "C" 00:39 < STARS_Ghostwa121> and my computer wont recognize my ipod 00:39 < STARS_Ghostwa121> so i cant restore it 00:39 < erus`> ah cheers 00:39 < slasherx> will it recognize it with the hp format tool? 00:39 < STARS_Ghostwa121> and when i boot into ipodlinux, i get an error 00:39 < slasherx> can you get into disk mode? 00:40 < thoand> STARS_Ghostwa121: is the diskmode impossible? 00:40 < STARS_Ghostwa121> yes 00:40 < ai2097> STARS_Ghostwa121: RTFTopic. /msg iplbot broken. 00:40 < slasherx> ok put it in disk mode, and use the hp format tool to format it 00:40 < slasherx> then restore it with apple updater 00:40 < STARS_Ghostwa121> hp format tool? 00:40 < thoand> forum search 00:40 < slasherx> search for it 00:41 < STARS_Ghostwa121> ok 00:41 < STARS_Ghostwa121> whats the forum? 00:41 < thoand> you know ipodlinux.org? 00:43 < STARS_Ghostwa121> what filetype is it? NTFS, FAT? 00:43 < STARS_Ghostwa121> FAT32? 00:43 < courtc> haha 00:43 < slasherx> fat32.. 00:44 < thoand> if winpod formated 00:44 < STARS_Ghostwa121> Failed to format.. 00:44 < slasherx> kill ipodservice.exe 00:44 < slasherx> ctrl+alt+del 00:44 < STARS_Ghostwa121> wait, but the restore thing worked 00:44 < slasherx> ok then 00:44 < slasherx> try again :) 00:44 < STARS_Ghostwa121> ok, can u guide me through this install? 00:44 < courtc> no 00:45 < slasherx> ipodlinux.org. 00:45 < courtc> `installation 00:45 < courtc> `wiki installation 00:45 < iplbot> installation (http://www.ipodlinux.org/installation) [14409 bytes] 00:45 < STARS_Ghostwa121> i know, but it's on a nano 00:45 < courtc> sooo? 00:45 < slasherx> follow a guide on the forum. 00:45 < STARS_Ghostwa121> ok 00:45 < STARS_Ghostwa121> thx 00:45 < slasherx> plenty of them 00:45 * courtc grumbles 00:45 < ai2097> You should use a mallet. And duct tape. And glue. 00:46 < ai2097> courtc: "I don't know"! 00:47 < thoand> last night i have dreamed of an update podcast, do you think something like that is possible? 00:48 -!- Mark__ [n=Mark@ACBD2676.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:48 < courtc> huh? 00:50 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:51 -!- syamajal1 is now known as syamajala 00:52 < thoand> i think it would be great if you could make your software selection using podcasts. (or something own) where you get the newest version on sync automaticlyx 00:53 < courtc> oh, so an RSS feed 00:53 < thoand> yes, that is a good idea too, i think 00:54 < slasherx> im trying to build the testmodule with a few minor modifications, it compiles fine but i cant find it in pz2 00:54 < slasherx> can anyone tell me whats wrong: http://www.geocities.com/slasherx123/formula.c 00:54 < thoand> but the ipod has no conection to the world than as mass-storage dev, am i right? 00:55 < STARS_Ghostwa121> Can u please help me, im following a tutorial, and its telling me to do this aes thing, and it isnt finding my ipod 00:55 < thoand> so there has to be a desktop part which syncs the software and updates on the fat partition, where the iPL coul get it from 00:55 < thoand> therefore i thought of podcasts, so that you could use itunes 00:55 < courtc> slasherx: your event formula encapsulates the rest of the functions, I'm surprised it even compiles. 00:56 < courtc> event_formula()* 00:56 < slasherx> bah 00:56 < slasherx> its my first module 00:56 < STARS_Ghostwa121> NVM I GOT IT 00:56 < thoand> heh, I have to get out of bed, my serial console has to view lines 00:57 < thoand> much better here 00:57 < slasherx> so your saying im missing an } and/or {? 00:57 < courtc> slasherx: put a 'return 0; }' right before draw_formula() 00:57 -!- shadax is now known as shadax`afk 00:57 < courtc> and remove the return 0;\n} after init_formula() 00:58 < slasherx> k it compiled 00:58 < slasherx> mm 00:59 < slasherx> hmm 00:59 < slasherx> module registered with invalid name 00:59 < slasherx> when i run pz2 00:59 -!- STARS_Ghostwa121 [n=Habsfan_@toronto-HSE-ppp3944429.sympatico.ca] has quit [] 00:59 < slasherx> i think i can figure it out.. 00:59 < josh_> slasherx: check your pz_register_module() call 01:01 < courtc> make sure the name matches your folder name. 01:01 < courtc> and use lower case for both 01:01 < slasherx> thanks 01:01 < slasherx> it was upper case 01:02 < thoand> courtc: do you know what podcasting allows? 01:03 < slasherx> wooo it works 01:03 < courtc> umm.. regular aggregation of podcast? 01:03 < courtc> s 01:03 < ai2097> courtc: "I don't know"!! 01:03 < courtc> hahaha 01:05 < thoand> might be interesting, if you could abuse it for my idea 01:05 < courtc> RSS is what you're looking for, and we're already on top of it. 01:05 < courtc> well, josh is at least 01:06 < thoand> oh, great guys 01:06 < courtc> Actually, rss is probably not the best idea. Too much for a simple task. 01:06 < erus`> how could avery cpu intensive app like an emulator be a pz2 module? because it cant use timer() rite? is there some sort of pz2update() function that it could call in the main loop or something? 01:06 < josh_> erus`: threads. 01:07 < erus`> ok col 01:07 < erus`> cool * 01:08 < courtc> aegray_: ping 01:10 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < aegray_> hi 01:13 < aegray_> courtc: pong 01:17 < BHSPitLappy> woah 01:17 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: huh? 01:18 -!- ichaelmay8 [i=ichaelma@AC9B112D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:19 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 < thoand> is there another information source then the dev blog an the status site to see how 5g supports goes on? 01:20 -!- charlienail888 [i=Eren@modemcable144.224-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #iPodLinux 01:20 < yuriks> hey, why does pz2 hangs with an horribly corrupted screen on boot? 01:21 < ichaelmay8> remember, pz2 has some rough edges, so don't expect it to work perfectly. 01:21 -!- futureyankee [n=futureya@adsl-66-142-172-121.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:21 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@193.5.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 01:22 < courtc> yuriks: what svn rev, what ipod, how did you install it? 01:22 -!- ichaelmay8 [i=ichaelma@AC9B112D.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:22 < yuriks> well, mini 2g 01:22 -!- charlienail888 [i=Eren@modemcable144.224-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 01:22 < yuriks> installed with linux, following this instructions: http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla 01:23 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-81-87-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 < courtc> What rev? 01:24 < yuriks> hmmm 01:24 < yuriks> lemme see 01:24 < yuriks> the rev is a bit old, I need to try again 01:25 < yuriks> hey, does the apple updater work on wine? anyone knows? 01:25 < courtc> Yea, update to the latest SVN revision of pz2, and let me know if it's still borked. 01:26 < slasherx> is there a pz2 module that has basic input and it does stuff and outputs? 01:26 < yuriks> And, how can I restore that backup the windows installer makes on linux? 01:26 < slasherx> so i can look at it and try to make my own 01:26 < slasherx> like math formulas 01:27 < courtc> slasherx: calc? 01:27 < slasherx> sounds good, thanks :) 01:27 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:27 < erus`> one of these days im gonna have a serious bash at porting nemus 01:28 < yuriks> well, about the backup... I really don't want to reboot into winblows 01:28 < courtc> hey veteran 01:29 < yuriks> hmmmm, I'm gonna try and dd that image... 01:31 < thoand> courtc: do you know anything about the status of the rss thing? 01:32 < courtc> "I don't know." 01:33 < courtc> In other words, it'll be done when it's done. 01:33 < BleuLlama> do or do not, there is no try 01:33 < thoand> courtc: heh, as it is allways 8) 01:33 < courtc> That is why you fail. 01:33 < BleuLlama> you will be.... 01:33 < BleuLlama> you will be. 01:34 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:35 < courtc> Do what you think is right. 01:36 < yuriks> uh 01:36 < yuriks> wtfers 01:36 < thoand> btw. is it normal, that ogg files on a 5g ipod are also too loud if you set the volume to 0%? 01:36 < yuriks> my ipod isnt booting to the def firmware 01:37 < yuriks> uh, well, it decided to do now 01:39 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:40 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: oh, I'd just now seen that svn was up so high... I just got my linux desktop back :) 01:41 < josh_> yep, it's at 998 01:41 < josh_> and the reason there haven't been many commits the past few days is because we have definite plans for what 999 and 1000 are going to be ;-) 01:41 < BleuLlama> or we're too lazy to work on our stuff 01:41 < BleuLlama> or distracted by shiny stuff 01:43 < courtc> Did someone say shiny? 01:44 < erus`> does eveyones 5g crash when trying to use terminal? 01:44 < josh_> yes 01:44 < yuriks> I want a shiny backup restore for linux =P 01:44 < josh_> yuriks: elaborate... 01:45 < yuriks> well, 4g installer under windows, switched to linux, not bothering to reboot to restore the backup 01:45 < yuriks> any hints for doing it under linux? 01:45 < josh_> dd if=backupfile of=/dev/sda? 01:45 < yuriks> maybe, but the backup is 40mb 01:45 < josh_> aha 01:45 < josh_> run the `file' command on it 01:45 < yuriks> and that doesn't coincides with any of the partition sizes -_- 01:45 < josh_> what does it say? 01:46 < yuriks> backup: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x58 01:46 < thoand> josh_: is the the terminal crash the sime like when I try to start a program via the file manager? 01:46 < josh_> thoand: similar 01:46 < josh_> yuriks: dd if=backupfile bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/sda 01:46 < josh_> yuriks: sfdisk -R /dev/sda 01:46 < josh_> yuriks: dd if=backupfile bs=512 skip=1 of=/dev/sda1 01:47 < yuriks> the last dd? 01:47 < josh_> all three commands, in order 01:47 < yuriks> oh 01:48 < thoand> josh_: so I do not need to test it anymore, because it is impossible at the moment? 01:48 < josh_> thoand: correct 01:48 < thoand> ok, thank you 01:48 < yuriks> wow, that was quick 01:49 < yuriks> now reboot the iP? 01:49 < thoand> then it is the best to go to bed 01:49 < josh_> yuriks: if you ran all three, and you didn't get any errors, yes 01:49 < thoand> good night you all 01:49 < yuriks> ok, so, here we go 01:49 < yuriks> night 01:50 < yuriks> well, some folder icon with a ! sign flashed two times quickly, but I couldn't read what it said 01:50 < yuriks> now it is at the 'do not disconnect' 01:50 < josh_> ok, it didn't work 01:50 < josh_> try just rebooting into win and doing it 01:50 < yuriks> craptacuklar 01:50 < yuriks> well, lets try 01:52 < yuriks> well, the partitions were 100% borked 01:52 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-81-87-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:55 -!- slasherx [n=me@24-247-171-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:58 -!- JonasNZ [n=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has joined #ipodlinux 01:59 < JonasNZ> when setting up mpd with podzilla two, is the setup for using the module the same as the mpd standalone setup as on the wiki 02:02 -!- STARS_Ghostwa121 [n=Habsfan_@toronto-HSE-ppp3944429.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:03 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:03 < STARS_Ghostwa121> Hello 02:03 < STARS_Ghostwa121> again 02:03 < fiftyfour123> any idea when HFS will be supported in the loader? 02:03 -!- courtc [n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:03 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:04 < STARS_Ghostwa121> How do i get music on podzilla so that its recognized as music 02:04 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:04 < STARS_Ghostwa121> Can anyone help me? 02:04 < STARS_Ghostwa121> How do i get music on podzilla so that its recognized as music? 02:05 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host70-57.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has quit ["Client exiting"] 02:05 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < STARS_Ghostwa121> Can anyone help me? 02:07 < yuriks> STARS_Ghostwa121: dont repeat 02:07 < yuriks> and 02:07 < yuriks> just sync like you would with the original FW 02:07 * erus` built chopper for podzilla2 :D 02:09 < jassmith> is there a way to mask a color while doing a blit? 02:09 < STARS_Ghostwa121> itunes wont recognize it 02:09 < BleuLlama> boot to appleos or diskmode 02:09 < STARS_Ghostwa121> nvm 02:09 < STARS_Ghostwa121> got it 02:12 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-165-108.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 02:15 -!- courtc [n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:20 < JonasNZ> courtc: can i get some help setting up mpd? 02:20 -!- STARS_Ghostwa121 [n=Habsfan_@toronto-HSE-ppp3944429.sympatico.ca] has quit [] 02:21 < yuriks> meh, I just restored everything, goodbye music =D 02:21 < yuriks> now lets dd 02:21 < josh_> yuriks: if you restored it with the apple updater, you don't *need* to restore the backup! 02:21 < yuriks> I know >_> 02:22 < yuriks> I mean, let's of=~/mybackup 02:22 < josh_> ah. 02:22 < yuriks> what do I do? 02:22 < yuriks> dd if=/dev/sda of=~/iPod.backup 02:22 < yuriks> ? 02:22 < josh_> dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 of=~/mybackup-ipod-partition-table 02:22 < josh_> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=~/mybackup-ipod-firmware 02:22 < yuriks> uh, part table? 02:22 < josh_> yeah 02:23 < yuriks> I want to do a disk i... wait, nvm, that would be 4gb 02:23 < josh_> that does the ptbl and the firmware 02:23 < josh_> everything but the music 02:23 < yuriks> wow, my ~ is cluttered, I need to clean it someday 02:25 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dev/ipl/installer % ls ~ 02:25 < josh_> -i Desktop/ Mail/ bin/ dev/ dl/ doc/ html/ irclogs/ lib/ src@ tmp@ 02:26 < BleuLlama> Imh-4 3> ls ~ | wc 02:26 < BleuLlama> 86 89 812 02:26 < yuriks> 49 53 596 02:26 < BleuLlama> gil-16 1> ls ~ | wc 02:26 < BleuLlama> 50 50 423 02:26 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dev/ipl/installer % ls ~/dl | wc 02:26 < josh_> 416 468 10673 02:26 < yuriks> P_P 02:27 < josh_> ^ that's where all the crap goes 02:27 < yuriks> same 02:27 < courtc> -i code/ doc/ ipodlinux/ mov/ mus/ rp/ source/ t/ textviewer.c 02:27 < yuriks> what's with the -i? 02:27 < josh_> yuriks: rm -rf * --> rm -rf -i ... 02:27 < josh_> it's a safety thing 02:27 < yuriks> oh 02:27 < josh_> for added protection, chflags it +i. 02:28 < josh_> er, that'd be chattr 02:28 -!- Yorgle [i=jerry@fury.csh.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 02:29 < josh_> Yorgle: change of nick? 02:29 < Yorgle> hmm? 02:29 < BleuLlama> hey. you're in RIT also 02:29 < yuriks> 2) run the windows based nano installer, dont take a backup, and install.(dont disconect,dont touch your ipod, dont reboot your ipod dont even breathe on it) 02:29 < yuriks> roflmao 02:29 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 02:29 < Yorgle> hrm 02:29 < Yorgle> oop. brb. 02:29 < josh_> Yorgle: are you the same person as BleuLlama? 02:29 -!- Yorgle [i=jerry@fury.csh.rit.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 02:29 < [HSO4-]> geh 02:29 < BleuLlama> weird 02:29 < BleuLlama> i use that nick sometimes 02:29 < josh_> yep, tell me about it 02:29 < josh_> I know you're "Yorgle" which is why I assumed it was you 02:30 < JonasNZ> does anyone know why mpd will not work on my ipod, first it couldnt be connected to, now it tries and is out of memory 02:30 < BleuLlama> yeah. odd. 02:30 < josh_> (I think I even miscredited "Scott Yorgle" for something a while back...) 02:30 < [HSO4-]> is it possible to compile applications on to the nightly builds of podzilla? 02:30 < BleuLlama> hahahah 02:30 < BleuLlama> that's funny 02:30 < BleuLlama> at least Scott Llama would have the right initials 02:30 < BleuLlama> i was just checking out irssi in another account 02:30 < josh_> ah :-) 02:31 < courtc> jerry@fury.csh.rit.ed # <-- 'course it was BleuLlama 02:31 < josh_> 18:29 -!- BleuLlama [n=yorgle@patsy.cis.rit.edu] 02:31 < BleuLlama> i haven't touched that account in like forever 02:31 < courtc> Jerry Yorgle 02:31 < BleuLlama> http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jerry/ 02:31 < BleuLlama> heh. "last updated ... 1998" 02:32 < courtc> The man of many nicknames. 02:34 < [HSO4-]> lol, he's such a computer nerd.. yet his website designing skills are shockingly bad 02:34 < [HSO4-]> :P 02:34 < josh_> he's also an iPodLinux developer, so watch your mouth :P 02:34 < josh_> (j/k) 02:34 < [HSO4-]> just kidding around :D 02:35 < [HSO4-]> 1998 were the days when the web barely existed anyway :P 02:35 < BleuLlama> [HSO4-]: would you rather i had some sort of shockwave monstrosity? 02:35 < JonasNZ> courtc: im having problems with mpd, it complains its out of memory? 02:35 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@63-231-188-222.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 02:35 < BleuLlama> i think i set my first webpages up at around 1993 or so 02:35 < [HSO4-]> um, no i thank you for not polluting it with shockwave 02:35 < erus`> omg the beos appearance and header style look so damn good :D 02:35 < BleuLlama> erus`: thanks 02:35 < canuckid> i know 02:35 < BleuLlama> those are my old pages. the newer ones are at umlautllama.com 02:36 < [HSO4-]> haha 02:36 < [HSO4-]> that website is awesome 02:36 < courtc> The Lamp supports green, why don't you? 02:36 < BleuLlama> heh 02:36 < [HSO4-]> first thing that hits you, the big llama 02:36 < Shadowarrior13> FEAR THE LAMP 02:36 < BleuLlama> i still like the crystaline background with crystaline iconey things over it. i like that scheme a lot. 02:37 * courtc prefers being on fire to repeated image backgrounds. 02:37 < yuriks> what's with all the fuckery to install ipl on the nano? O_O 02:37 * [HSO4-] sees 02:38 < yuriks> http://ipodlinux.org/How_To_install_iPodLinux_on_an_iPod_Nano 02:38 < yuriks> I mean, wtf 02:38 < BleuLlama> i remember making those icons, in photoshop 3/4 without outer glow... that was a pain to make that yellow outer glow 02:38 < josh_> BleuLlama: photoshop 0.75? man, that's old... ;-) 02:38 < BleuLlama> so... don't do it. end of discussion 02:38 < courtc> use a yellow shadow. 02:38 < BleuLlama> there were no shadows 02:38 < BleuLlama> no layer effects 02:38 < courtc> oh. 02:38 < erus`> i just need iboy on the 5g then im complete 02:39 < BleuLlama> i took the fg, made lots of copies of it, merged them, then blurred it, then colored it yellow 02:39 < BleuLlama> pain in the butt 02:39 < erus`> apart from the gaping hole where rogue should be :( 02:39 < courtc> I installed ipodlinux on my nano in under 10 minutes. What's the problem? Simple as pie. 02:39 < BleuLlama> it was pretty easy to get linux running on my nano. about 10-15 minutes of "work" 02:40 < erus`> nethack would be the best roguelike to port because the ui was written with portability in mind 02:40 < BleuLlama> hahahahahahahah 02:40 < erus`> and its a damn good game :) 02:40 < BleuLlama> the ui was written with *a keyboard* in mind 02:40 < BleuLlama> if you want to port it, knock yourself out 02:40 < BleuLlama> have fun. 02:41 < courtc> With a hammer. 02:41 < BleuLlama> please 02:41 < erus`> i tried. but podzilla doesnt load the module and never gives you a reason 02:41 < yuriks> yeah, nethack woul rock 02:41 < yuriks> but, no please >_> 02:41 < yuriks> unlessx you get me a virtual keyboard 02:42 -!- kddo1 [n=kddo1@CPE-70-94-2-162.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < erus`> you can cyle throu non-movement functions with the wheel. it could work 02:42 < erus`> ive played on palm its fun :) 02:43 < kddo1> does anyone know where i can get a mencoder binary for that mac that will work ipod photo video conversion? 02:43 < kddo1> for ipod photo video conversion 02:44 < yuriks> a palm has a touchscreen 02:44 < yuriks> and a graffity area >_> 02:44 < [HSO4-]> any-developer: anyone have any idea why the audio sync is like 17 seconds forward of the video? 02:44 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:45 < kddo1> ? 02:45 < courtc> because your video is teh broke? 02:45 < yuriks> weird 02:45 < imphasing> It's actually spelled "borkz0rs" 02:45 < yuriks> X suddenly got all slugish 02:46 < yuriks> and suddenly got fine after I closed firefox >_> 02:46 < erus`> thanks for that :) 02:47 < erus`> someone outa edit pong so its completly scalable to any rez 02:47 < BleuLlama> erus`: when you've done it, submit a patch 02:48 < erus`> bah ok 02:48 < erus`> i go 15 mins 02:48 < imphasing> A pong pacman rom would be sort of "neat" 02:48 < imphasing> Neat in a "lame" way. 02:48 < imphasing> Becuase pong bugs me. 02:48 < BleuLlama> there's always joust pong 02:48 < BleuLlama> joust pong rules 02:48 < imphasing> True.. 02:49 < yuriks> When will the devs start to ship all those newer, 4g and up supporting versions as 'official' and 'stable' since they are arleady so since a long time ago? 02:49 < JonasNZ> courtc: can you help me get mpd working it will not start and run, it runs out of memory.... 02:49 < imphasing> Pong doesn't have a processor, right? All just lots of solid state circuitry? 02:49 < BleuLlama> imphasing: correct. 02:49 < yuriks> I think 02:49 -!- Kensir [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 < imphasing> That would be why there aren't any emulators.. 02:49 < imphasing> hehe 02:49 < BleuLlama> just logic chips... no cpu or roms 02:49 < BleuLlama> yup 02:49 < yuriks> heh 02:49 -!- kddo1 [n=kddo1@CPE-70-94-2-162.wi.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:49 < erus`> i just need to find a common facter that divides into all resolutions of screen 02:49 < yuriks> There are 'simulators' tho 02:50 < BleuLlama> erus`: ? 02:50 < imphasing> erus`: Try detecting the screen size with hotdog, and using it's scaling blitter 02:50 < erus`> im on it 02:50 < imphasing> I bet.. 02:50 < erus`> that seems a bit overkill 02:50 -!- kddo1 [n=kddo1@CPE-70-94-2-162.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:50 < imphasing> for what? 02:50 < imphasing> hotdog is very fast. 02:50 < imphasing> And it will scale it to the right screen size. 02:50 < erus`> ok gd point 02:50 < BleuLlama> http://alienbill.com/abp/java/joustpong/ 02:51 < imphasing> OR you could just make it one tiny size, and it would look lame on all ipods. 02:51 < imphasing> haha.. 02:51 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:51 < erus`> lol 02:51 < imphasing> I need to get java 02:51 < erus`> hmm i need hotdog then it would seem 02:52 -!- oldschool [n=scott@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:52 < Kensir> Are the iPL partitions very different from Rockbox? 02:52 < imphasing> rockbox uses the fat partition 02:52 < imphasing> so yes 02:52 < Kensir> k 02:53 < Kensir> thanks 02:53 < BleuLlama> someone made a port of joust pong for the Atari 2600 too. google for it 02:53 < yuriks> hey, does the mini 2g suspends to fw? 02:53 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@63-231-188-222.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Success] 02:54 < imphasing> Funny..my ipod has more computing power, and far better graphics than the first computer I used. 02:54 < yuriks> or do I resize the fw partition? 02:54 < imphasing> Though that's not saying much.. 02:54 < BHSPitLappy> huh 02:54 < BleuLlama> http://alienbill.com/2600/flapping/ apparantly he had to change the name 02:54 < BHSPitLappy> oh 02:54 < yuriks> http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 02:54 < yuriks> Which steps to follow? 02:54 < erus`> can i have the svn addy with hotdog module inside? 02:54 -!- kddo1 [n=kddo1@CPE-70-94-2-162.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:54 < courtc> `svn 02:55 < BleuLlama> my first real computer was my Amiga 1000. 512k ram, no hard drive... eventually, i got 2.5mb ram, 100mb hard disk. 7.16Mhz 68000 cpu 02:55 < yuriks> cooltastic 02:55 < erus`> found on wiki 02:55 < yuriks> my GBA is faster than that 02:55 < imphasing> Heh, the first computer I used was a 386SX when I was like..three. 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> wow 02:55 < oldschool> wow 02:55 < courtc> `svn 02:55 < iplbot> svn is https://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/ [from courtc] 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> joust pong would be great on the ipod 02:55 < yuriks> a 486 when I was 5 02:56 < courtc> young'uns 02:56 < imphasing> :( 02:56 < yuriks> lol 02:56 < imphasing> I usually try to steer the conversation away from my age. 02:56 * courtc has plans for his old 486 02:56 * imphasing made a router out of his 02:56 < ai2097> Mmmm... 8088... 02:56 < courtc> p2 for my nat box 02:57 < courtc> my 486 is about to be integrated into my car, with mpd 02:57 < imphasing> ah.. 02:57 < imphasing> good idea.. 02:58 < imphasing> I was goign to build a computer music dealie for my car 02:58 < imphasing> but then I remember, I don't have one. 02:58 < courtc> touchscreen, hopefully. 02:58 < imphasing> Oh, cool. 02:58 < imphasing> There's a good website I saw that documents how one guy did that. 02:58 < BleuLlama> i have a computer that i use in my car. it only has 10gb of storage, but i can easily copy music to it via my pc. 02:58 < BleuLlama> i call it "my iPod" 02:58 < imphasing> wifi card? 02:58 < josh_> haha 02:59 < yuriks> won't a 3 cylinder partition be damned small? >_> 02:59 < yuriks> for IPL 02:59 < josh_> yuriks: nope 02:59 < imphasing> http://www.ryanspc.com/carmp3 #That's how someone did it. 02:59 < josh_> 1 cylinder == 8MB 02:59 < yuriks> O_o 02:59 < imphasing> That's...24mb 02:59 < yuriks> ... 02:59 < imphasing> hehe 02:59 < yuriks> I plan on adding stuff to it 02:59 < imphasing> Mine is 256mb 02:59 < yuriks> Well 02:59 < imphasing> Just becuase I was feeling generous 02:59 < imphasing> but you don't need that much 02:59 < yuriks> I would want 64mb 03:00 < yuriks> at least 03:00 < imphasing> Then use 8 cylinders.. 03:00 < yuriks> but, well, I can use /hp, so, nvm 03:00 < yuriks> I don't have 8 cylinders >_> 03:01 < courtc> mine is the size of my ipod. 03:01 < imphasing> haha 03:01 < imphasing> stupid HFS people.. 03:01 < imphasing> :( 03:01 < courtc> ext3 03:01 < courtc> err.. 03:01 < courtc> ext2 03:01 < imphasing> heh 03:01 < erus`> hmm is there any reference for hotdog? 03:01 -!- oldschool [n=scott@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:01 < imphasing> erus`: Nope.. 03:02 < imphasing> In the words of josh_, read hotdog.h 03:02 < imphasing> :) 03:02 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 03:02 < courtc> ctags *.[ch] && vim hotdog.h 03:02 < JonasNZ> why does the bootloader freeze everytime i boot and dont play with buttons before i see the menu? 03:03 < erus`> should i be changing all the pre existing code to hotdog functions or just taking the bitmap at the end and scaling with hotdog? 03:03 < josh_> erus`: what are you trying to *do*? 03:03 < courtc> erus`: what exactly are you doing? 03:03 < courtc> :) 03:03 < BHSPitLappy> scaling pong 03:03 < erus`> lol :| 03:03 < courtc> pong scales, kinda. 03:03 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@63-231-188-222.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:04 < erus`> yeh but the game area hjust gets bigger 03:04 < BleuLlama> it's not like you need a stretch blit routine to expand two rectangles and a square 03:04 < courtc> either rewrite most of it, or rewrite al of it. 03:04 < erus`> thats what i said ... 03:04 < imphasing> OR use hd-pong... 03:04 < imphasing> :D 03:04 < BHSPitLappy> lol 03:04 < BHSPitLappy> good thinking 03:04 < BleuLlama> yep 03:04 < courtc> Which scales even less. 03:04 < imphasing> Yeah, but it ahs the possibility to, and easier 03:04 < imphasing> s/ahs/has/ 03:05 < BHSPitLappy> but the framework is already there 03:05 < BHSPitLappy> err 03:05 < BHSPitLappy> damn lag 03:05 < courtc> umm.. it'd be really easy to scale pong without hotdog. 03:05 < BleuLlama> it's two rectangles and a square 03:06 < imphasing> courtc: Yeah, but..hotdog! 03:06 < courtc> actually, my pong is advanced. it's two rectangles and a circle. 03:06 < courtc> ! 03:06 < imphasing> :o 03:06 < BleuLlama> two. rectangles. and. a circle. 03:07 < courtc> imphasing: I suppose you use a carwash for your bicycle too? 03:08 < yuriks> lol 03:08 < imphasing> Yeah, the carnuba wax in it really makes it shiny. 03:08 < imphasing> It's just soap, dude. 03:08 < yuriks> hmmm 03:08 < yuriks> http://ipodlinux.org/How_to_install_iPodLinux_on_4G_iPod_using_Linux 03:08 < yuriks> this says the make_fw is old 03:08 < yuriks> but, the make_fw is from 2006 arleady 03:09 < yuriks> which one to get? 03:09 < yuriks> I think the 2006 one >_> 03:09 < courtc> Why does that page exist? 03:09 < yuriks> I dunno 03:10 < BleuLlama> seems like it'd be a copy of the regular installing from linux page 03:10 < imphasing> Ah, but there's a subtle difference! 03:10 < imphasing> Oh wait..they took that off. 03:11 < imphasing> Yeah, it's the same. 03:11 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/swf/may02-smilepop-soapbox4.swf <--heh. 03:11 < courtc> I'd watch that if gnash didn't suck. 03:11 < yuriks> haha 03:11 < imphasing> gnash? 03:12 < courtc> `google gnash 03:12 < iplbot> No match, apparently (bug). 03:12 < yuriks> hey 03:12 < BHSPitLappy> `google failure 03:12 < yuriks> how do I make gunzip not obliterate the source file? 03:12 < BHSPitLappy> huh? 03:12 < imphasing> Ah, right. 03:12 < imphasing> GNASH. 03:12 < yuriks> O_O 03:13 < imphasing> Er, never mind. "Gnash" 03:13 * BHSPitLappy smells a GnashPod module! 03:13 < erus`> bah im too tired to be replacing hundreds upon hundreds of hardcoded vars... im going to bed. i do this in the mornin 03:14 < BHSPitLappy> yes, the hundreds and hundreds of pieces that make up PONG! 03:14 < yuriks> rofl 03:14 < erus`> but they should have been scalable in the first place :P 03:15 < courtc> They? 03:15 < courtc> It scales I tell you. 03:15 < yuriks> hmm, all references to 'mini' in the docs are also to the 'mini 2g'? 03:15 < erus`> ok the bat and ball size and speed - should have been scalable 03:16 < courtc> paddle tyvm 03:16 < imphasing> Yeah, not hard. 03:16 < imphasing> Just detect the screen size, and make them bigger. 03:16 * courtc defends his hacked up pong to the death. 03:16 < imphasing> They're just basic shapes. 03:16 < erus`> yeh but theres loads of hard coded stuff like paddle width etc etc 03:16 < imphasing> Er, they're basic shapes that *courtc* wrote. 03:16 < ai2097> courtc: Pong's death, or yours? 03:16 < erus`> and the numbers.... i cant do all that tonight 03:17 < imphasing> erus`: I guess you'd want to CHANGE THE PADDLE WIDTH depending on the ipod then.. 03:17 < erus`> well... ye :) 03:17 < courtc> ai2097: it doesn't matter. 03:17 < imphasing> They aer one and the same. 03:17 < BHSPitLappy> aer! 03:17 < BHSPitLappy> jaerb! 03:17 < imphasing> s/aer/are/ 03:17 < erus`> anyway. its 3 o clock. i want sleep 03:17 < imphasing> I thought I could let that one go. 03:17 < imphasing> But noooo... 03:18 < BHSPitLappy> great jaerb, imphasing! 03:18 < BHSPitLappy> jaaeeeoorrbb! 03:18 < imphasing> courtc: Do you get any audio lag with Gnash? 03:18 < courtc> imphasing: I don't get any audio. 03:18 * BleuLlama walks out, and leaves two rocks to be banged together 03:19 * BHSPitLappy quickly picks up the rocks and gets distracted 03:19 < imphasing> courtc: Ah 03:19 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:19 < courtc> and < 1.1 fps 03:19 < courtc> hola jonrelay 03:19 < ai2097> courtc: Wait... you're saying gnash actually -runs- :p? 03:19 < BHSPitLappy> hay hay jonrelay 03:20 < jonrelay> Hey all. 03:20 < courtc> ai2097: it does. kinda. 03:20 < yuriks> hey 03:20 < yuriks> WHERE THE FUCK is the backup I did earlier????!?!?! O_O 03:20 < ai2097> yuriks: You're asking -us-? 03:20 < courtc> Ask in here, we might know. 03:20 < BHSPitLappy> WHEREVER THE FUCK you put it 03:20 < ai2097> We can't do tech support on you're brain. 03:20 < yuriks> apparently dd dislikes ~ -_- 03:21 < ai2097> *your 03:21 * BleuLlama looks at his lack of @ness 03:21 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o BleuLlama ] by ChanServ 03:21 < courtc> dd has nothing to do with ~ 03:21 < yuriks> well 03:21 < BHSPitLappy> was it a livecd? 03:21 < yuriks> it isn't no where 03:21 < yuriks> no >_> 03:21 < BHSPitLappy> updatedb 03:21 * imphasing sees "@BleuLlama" now. 03:21 < ai2097> find / -iname "your_backup_name_here" 03:21 < BHSPitLappy> locate ipod_partition_whatever 03:21 < yuriks> hmmm 03:22 < yuriks> oh yeah, su >_> 03:22 < BHSPitLappy> oh wow 03:22 < BHSPitLappy> nice going there 03:22 < courtc> find / -iname "mem" -exec echo "don't crash" > '{}' \; 03:23 < BHSPitLappy> think he found it 03:23 < courtc> do it anyway! it's fun! 03:23 < yuriks> yeah, su moves the homedir also 03:24 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@63-231-188-222.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:24 -!- JonasNZ [n=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:24 < yuriks> fread failed: Success 03:24 < yuriks> ehhhh, what? 03:25 < courtc> umm.. It doesn't move anything. It changes who you are, if you turned into hank aaron, your home wouldn't be the same. it'd be ... a grave I guess. 03:25 < yuriks> yeah /root/ I know, but I could swear it kept my home once... 03:25 < yuriks> and wtf does that message mean? 03:25 < courtc> fread does not set errno 03:25 < yuriks> got it when I ran make_fw 03:26 < BHSPitLappy> that means one of the files you told it to use is nonexsistent. 03:26 < BHSPitLappy> go figure. 03:26 < BHSPitLappy> s/nonexsistent/nonexistent/ 03:26 < courtc> perror/strerror on a fread return is useless. 03:26 < yuriks> su -c "./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 iPod-part-table.backup" 03:27 < yuriks> ~_^ 03:28 < yuriks> what gives? 03:29 < BHSPitLappy> umm, part-table.backup doesn't sound like an image of sdx1 03:29 -!- ballistix_ [n=ballisti@60-240-78-183-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:33 < yuriks> is there any newer userland than the one on that page? 03:33 < josh_> courtc: ^ 03:33 < courtc> Which does it link to? 03:33 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/ipod_fs_240206.tar.gz 03:33 < courtc> ^ newest 03:33 < ballistix_> bukhaa 03:34 < josh_> ballistix_: huh? 03:34 * ballistix_ is psycho. 03:35 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 03:36 < CIA-4> courtc * tools/ipodloader/make_fw.c: fread does not set errno, use feof and ferror to determine error type 03:37 * ballistix_ has quit irc ("Cya guys.") 03:37 -!- ballistix_ was kicked from #ipodlinux by josh_ [looks like your /quit command is messed up... here, this'll help ;-)] 03:38 < courtc> :) 03:38 < imphasing> hehe 03:38 -!- ballistix_ [n=ballisti@60-240-78-183-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:38 < ballistix_> bahahaha 03:40 * BleuLlama sleep now. night all 03:41 * ballistix_ is set to have lunch. 03:41 < imphasing> ciao 03:41 < ballistix_> cya 03:41 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:41 < courtc> 'night BleuLlama 03:41 < yuriks> well, apple logo, then blank screen 03:41 < yuriks> meh 03:42 < ballistix_> yuck. 03:42 < ballistix_> to the wall charger it goes. 03:42 < yuriks> It IS on the charger >_> 03:42 < ballistix_> Wall charger, goes it does. 03:43 < yuriks> oh wait 03:44 < yuriks> I need a special command to it to work 03:44 < yuriks> -3, whatever that does 03:44 < courtc> -g 03:46 -!- shadax`afk [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-79.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:46 * ballistix_ has quit IRC ("I dont need any help quitting, haha") 03:46 < yuriks> well, I did that 03:46 < yuriks> mini 03:46 < yuriks> didn't work 03:47 < yuriks> and that tuto they say helps with the blank screen ha been suspended >_> 03:48 < yuriks> Hints? 03:50 < BHSPitLappy> hmm... that's funny, I've installed iPL on two nanos, two minis, and two 5G's 03:50 < yuriks> Yeah, it worked before, but I used some 4g installer for windows 03:51 < BHSPitLappy> the only "tuto" I go by is Installation_from_Linux 03:51 < BHSPitLappy> never fails me 03:51 < yuriks> well, failed for me 03:52 < yuriks> I get a blank screen after the apple logo 03:52 < yuriks> Proably I just forgot to do something, let me re-read this 03:52 < BHSPitLappy> then the battery's dead. 03:52 < BHSPitLappy> charge and try again tomorrow. 03:52 -!- ballistix_ was kicked from #ipodlinux by josh_ [yes, apparently, yes you do.] 03:52 < yuriks> No it isn't, it is connected to the plug 03:53 < yuriks> err, USB 03:53 < yuriks> and alas, the battery was 80% when I started doing this 03:53 < BHSPitLappy> that doesn't rule out battery dead-ness. 03:53 < BHSPitLappy> and resetting knocks the battery down a bit, too. 03:53 < yuriks> ... heck, it is at the do not disconnect screen chargin for ages >> 03:54 < yuriks> It even stopped charging arleady 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> you sure it's a powered point 03:54 < yuriks> yes 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> s/point/port/ 03:54 < yuriks> cause I always charge it here 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> damn microsoft, planting buzzwords in my head! 03:54 < yuriks> and I didn't disconnect the cable 03:54 < yuriks> and it has a power simbol next to the battery meter =P 03:55 < BHSPitLappy> if you see apple, then blankness, all I can say is it's shutting off. 03:55 < BHSPitLappy> who's to say your battery isn't crapped out? 03:55 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=Shadowar@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 03:55 < yuriks> because this thing is new 03:55 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:55 < yuriks> and it was very perfectly palying for over 10 hourse yesterday 03:56 < yuriks> playing* 03:56 < yuriks> when I hold menu + select I see a scanline or two flash on the screen, wonder if thats normal 03:57 < yuriks> # ./make_fw -g gen -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin -l uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.bin loader.bin (4g+) 03:57 < BHSPitLappy> hahaa 03:57 < yuriks> ah, bash gave me an error so I just left the (4g+) part out 03:57 < yuriks> and YES, I used mini in the place of gen 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> well, of course 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> oh, ok ;) 03:58 < imphasing> http://pastebin.com/582993 #It's fun to snoop around pastebin 03:58 < imphasing> hehehe 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> paste exactly what you did 03:58 -!- ballistix_ [n=ballisti@60-240-78-183-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:59 < ballistix_> damn you, JOSHUA OREMAN! 03:59 < josh_> haha 03:59 < yuriks> yuriks@yuriks:~/ipl/ipodloader-20060114$ su -c "./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 iPod-firmware.backup" 03:59 < yuriks> yuriks@yuriks:~/ipl/ipodloader-20060114$ ./make_fw -g mini -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin -l ../2006-03-02-kernel.bin loader.bin 04:00 < CIA-4> courtc * tools/ipodloader/make_fw.c: fixed more fread/fwrite error messages 04:00 < BHSPitLappy> ballistix_: don't be so proud of yourself, his name's not a secret. 04:00 < ballistix_> thats not the point 04:00 < ballistix_> im yelling in a way that homer does 04:00 < yuriks> yuriks@yuriks:~/ipl/ipodloader-20060114$ su -c "dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/sda1" 04:00 < yuriks> that's it 04:00 < ballistix_> you know how he emphasizes the name? 04:00 < yuriks> then I untared the userland, pz, etc 04:00 < BHSPitLappy> nope 04:00 < ballistix_> i should have added a *shaking fist* to the end of it 04:01 < BHSPitLappy> yuriks: how large is apple_os.bin 04:01 < yuriks> 3.3M 04:02 < ballistix_> march 15 fc5 is released! woot woot! 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> March 22, ballistix_ dies in car accident! 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> woot woot! 04:03 < ballistix_> what? 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> 04:04 < ballistix_> oh, one of those *i can predict the future cause im trying to be an evil interpreter* things 04:04 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 04:04 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #iPodLinux [] 04:04 < BHSPitLappy> yuriks: what about my_sw 04:05 < yuriks> 4.9M 04:05 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 04:06 < BHSPitLappy> no error from make_fw? 04:06 < yuriks> nope 04:07 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@63-231-188-222.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:09 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-22-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:18 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:23 -!- xevian [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-35-184.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:24 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-42-210.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:28 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 04:28 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-153-227.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:29 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-67-66-188-9.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:29 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 04:32 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-78-183-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:41 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-22-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:48 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:52 < yuriks> meh 04:53 < yuriks> cya 04:53 -!- ballistix_ [n=ballisti@60-240-78-183-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:54 < BHSPitLappy> "[jon_] I just found that my iPod and laptop use the same hard disk (I have a tiny laptop) and my laptop's hard disk has been failing miserably. [jon_] I'll be back later after the transplant. [jon_] Later all. <-- jon_ has quit ("Leaving") 04:54 < BHSPitLappy> ^ brave. 04:57 -!- rodbegbie [n=rod@glistening.arsecandle.org] has joined #ipodlinux 04:58 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@63-231-188-222.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:59 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:59 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 04:59 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:02 < yuriks> rofl 05:02 < yuriks> brave indeed 05:03 < yuriks> well, cya, for real this time =P 05:03 < yuriks> hmmm, I dunno, the iP seems to be on 05:03 < yuriks> but with like 1% contrast 05:04 < yuriks> yeah, it IS on 05:04 < yuriks> the screen is a little darker than when I reboot it 05:06 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 05:07 < yuriks> meh, I'll try again tomorrow 05:07 -!- nikosapi_ [n=nikosapi@ip-3.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:18 -!- Pinkevin [i=Pinkevin@c-44d7e455.157-58-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 05:19 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:31 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-22-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:32 < ssstormy> I know it's officially unsupported, but could anyone tell me why when I do make IPOD=1 and then make install, podzilla2 tellls me that "no install is neccesary for desktop? 05:32 < BHSPitLappy> make install IPOD=1 05:32 < jonrelay> It's make install IPOD=1, not make install. 05:33 < BHSPitLappy> and, if the ipod isn't /mnt/ipod, then add DESTDIR=path to that 05:33 < ssstormy> ok thank you! 05:33 < ai2097> export is your friend. 05:34 < BHSPitLappy> np... 05:34 * BHSPitLappy looks at the economy 05:34 < BHSPitLappy> ai2097: I beg to differ. Imports are where it's at. 05:35 < ssstormy> well that's where it's at 05:35 < ssstormy> but we need more exports 05:35 < ssstormy> or ther'll be no more anywhere being "where it's at" 05:36 < BHSPitLappy> #economicaltheory 05:38 < ballistix> wtf are you people yabbering on about. 05:39 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:39 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:39 < BHSPitLappy> oh yeah, WE're the yabberers. 05:39 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 05:40 < ballistix> uh... yeah... 05:40 < ballistix> lol yabbererers. 05:40 < BHSPitLappy> would those be people who do yabberers? 05:41 -!- zedrdave [n=zedrdave@dan75-1-87-88-125-171.dsl.club-internet.fr] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:43 < ballistix> not sure... they MIGHT be the people that yabber on about yabberers? 05:44 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:45 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:46 < ballistix> random irony: C++ (postfix increment) works better when written with prefix increment! (e.g. ++C) 05:46 < ballistix> lol 05:46 < ballistix> well, not better, but more effeciently 05:46 < courtc> It doesn't work better, it works differently. 05:46 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:47 < BHSPitLappy> they're different things. 05:47 < ballistix> more _efficiently_ 05:47 < BHSPitLappy> different things. 05:47 < ballistix> ooohhh, snazzy bold writing 05:48 < BHSPitLappy> This apple produces flavor more efficiently than this orange. 05:48 < josh_> ballistix: for C++ objects, yes. for POD types, no. 05:48 < josh_> (POD = Plain Old Data) 05:48 < josh_> http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/operator-overloading.html#faq-13.15 05:48 < ballistix> true, but you are missing one important thing 05:48 < josh_> ^ read that before you keep arguing, please. 05:48 < ballistix> random irony != topic for discussion 05:49 < josh_> except that the random irony isn't ironic because it isn't true 05:49 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has joined #ipodlinux 05:49 < ballistix> lol i literally just read it out of a book 05:49 < josh_> and you should literally go read that FAQ entry 05:49 < josh_> because there's more to it than you just read 05:49 < ballistix> lol 05:49 < josh_> the rule you read is true in some cases, but not in others 05:49 * ballistix apologizes for not taking the irony seriously enough 05:50 * ballistix only meant for it to be shallow irony, not a full fledged "cult-following" irony... haha 05:50 < josh_> heh 05:50 < aegray> josh_: how do you fix fucked up loop devices? 05:51 < aegray> anytime i try to use one i get ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy 05:51 < josh_> aegray: how badly effed up? 05:51 < josh_> losetup -d 05:51 < josh_> erm 05:51 < aegray> tried taht 05:51 < aegray> get the same message 05:51 < josh_> looks like that's what you're doing 05:51 < josh_> check their mountedness 05:51 < aegray> they aren't mounted :( 05:51 < josh_> no idea then, sorry 05:51 < aegray> how do you have bochs setup? 05:51 < josh_> unload loop module? 05:51 < aegray> do you just create a disk image? 05:51 < josh_> aegray: I don't use bochs that much, but yeah, basically 05:52 < aegray> k 05:52 < aegray> erm 05:52 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/postvspregcc.png 05:52 < aegray> loop is built into kernel 05:52 < josh_> ack 05:52 < josh_> reboot then :-( 05:52 < aegray> damn 05:52 < aegray> linux isn't supposed to need that! 05:52 < aegray> hehe 05:53 < courtc> I made that a while ago. 05:53 < ballistix> 4,1.-..-. _ _ .-. .-. 05:53 < ballistix> : `' : :_; :_; : : .' `. 05:53 < ballistix> : .. : .--. .--. .-. .--. ,-.,-..-. .--. : `-.`. .' 05:53 < ballistix> : :; :' .; ; ' .; :: :' ..': ,. :: :' .; :: .. :: : 05:53 < ballistix> :_;:_;`.__,_;`._. ;:_;`.__.':_;:_;:_;`._. ;:_;:_;:_; 05:53 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-78-183-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:53 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: cool! 05:53 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 05:53 < BHSPitLappy> good lord. 05:53 < josh_> what's that supposed to say now? 05:53 < BHSPitLappy> no clue. 05:54 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-22-177.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:54 < BHSPitLappy> Magicmiaht? 05:54 < BHSPitLappy> oh 05:54 < BHSPitLappy> Magic Night 05:55 < courtc> Magicmight 05:55 < BHSPitLappy> wow... I can't believe we've let him win... 05:55 < BHSPitLappy> we are actually discussing this... 06:00 < ai2097> Yes, but he never has to know :) 06:00 -!- ramneek [n=ramneek@12.184.59.2] has joined #ipodlinux 06:01 * BHSPitLappy glances at _ipodstats 06:01 < ramneek> any one seeen this error before?? "undefined reference to `__divsi3'" 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> you traitor! 06:01 < josh_> ramneek: where? 06:01 < ramneek> umm... sorry.. this is not a ipodlinux problem 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> I'm 99% sure frijole has seen it before 06:01 < josh_> I've seen it too 06:01 < ramneek> okie 06:01 * BHSPitLappy pulls the trapdoor lever 06:01 < josh_> except for me it was __divdi3 06:01 < josh_> but I know what both those funcs do :-) 06:01 < ramneek> can u tell me? 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: how does that qualify as having seen it before, then? :P 06:02 < ramneek> am compiling a program with arm-elf toolchain 06:02 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: Even if it doesn't, we've all seen the error now. 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> I saw Jennifer Aniston at school last week! Except it was Jennifer Yardley... 06:02 < josh_> ramneek: it means libgcc isn't getting properly linked in 06:02 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: __divsi3 divides 32-bit numbers; __divdi3 divides 64-bit ones 06:03 < ramneek> when i use a divide it gives this problem otherwise it works just fine 06:03 < josh_> yep 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> truth-stretcher :P 06:03 < josh_> make sure your libgcc is getting linked in 06:03 < ramneek> okie.. so am using a softfpa? 06:03 < josh_> ramneek: the "i" in that function name stands for "i"nteger 06:03 < josh_> the FP mode is irrelevant 06:03 < ramneek> i have -lgcc in my libs :( 06:04 < josh_> are you linking with gcc or with ld? 06:04 < ramneek> gcc 06:04 < josh_> try using `arm-whatever-elf-gcc -print-libgcc-file-name` instead of -lgcc 06:04 < josh_> and be sure to put it AFTER your objects 06:04 -!- nikosapi_ [n=nikosapi@ip-3.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:05 < ramneek> okie.. let me try.. thanks for help josh_ 06:06 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 06:06 < BHSPitLappy> iPodHiFiLinux! 06:06 < ramneek> i still get it :((.. damn! 06:06 < ramneek> when i do that command on shell it shows me the file 06:07 < ramneek> so it is supposed to be working 06:07 < ramneek> josh_, ??? any other pointers? 06:08 -!- Kensir [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has quit [] 06:08 < ramneek> gahhh! 06:08 < ramneek> solved it i had -nostdlibs 06:08 < ramneek> :) 06:08 < ramneek> thanks dude.. 06:10 -!- ramneek [n=ramneek@12.184.59.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:10 -!- ramneek [n=ramneek@12.184.59.2] has joined #ipodlinux 06:10 < ramneek> hey i have another question 06:11 < ramneek> last time i was around here.. somone mentioned he was making a emulator for ipod.. is it done?? or someone requires a hand with it?? 06:11 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 06:13 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 06:13 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:18 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:18 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:19 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 06:22 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 06:23 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 06:23 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:33 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:34 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:54 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:11 -!- XenoMephX [n=XenoMeph@71.9.17.222] has joined #ipodlinux 07:16 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:23 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:38 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has quit [Client Quit] 07:49 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 07:52 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 07:55 -!- XenoMephX [n=XenoMeph@71.9.17.222] has left #ipodlinux [] 08:05 -!- rodbegbie [n=rod@glistening.arsecandle.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:16 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-127-173.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:17 < ballistix> josh_: what would be the result of this? 08:17 < ballistix> value = 1; 08:17 < ballistix> result = (value++ * 5) + (value++ * 3) 08:17 < ballistix> as far as i can work out, it would be 11 OR 13 08:17 < ballistix> but i am a programming noob... :) 08:18 < josh_> it's undefined 08:18 < ballistix> why's that? 08:18 < josh_> it could be 8, 11, 13, 16, whatever. 08:18 < aegray> tehres nothing defined on which it evals first 08:19 < BHSPitLappy> because you're increasing the value of value, while putting it in a problem that has the transitive property 08:19 < BHSPitLappy> (am I right) 08:19 < ballistix> i thought it was a weird statement because either of the two things in brackets could be evaluated first 08:19 < aegray> 11 or 13 i thought 08:19 < ballistix> yeah 11 or 13 08:19 < aegray> oh unless it doenst alias 08:20 < aegray> good call 08:20 < aegray> o 08:20 < aegray> no 08:20 < aegray> it wouldnt' do that 08:20 < ballistix> lol i just assumed that it was compiler dependant 08:20 < ballistix> as to which problem is solved first 08:20 < josh_> nope, it's *undefined* 08:20 < josh_> which means it could differ even for the same compiler 08:21 < josh_> try printf ("%d %d", i++, i++) and you'll see what I mean 08:21 < ballistix> ok... 08:22 < ballistix> wouldn't that just print i+1 and i+2 ? 08:22 < aegray> which one gets evaled first 08:22 < aegray> is the questoi 08:22 < ballistix> depending on i's value 08:22 < josh_> it might print i and i+1, or i+1 and i 08:22 < aegray> it can easily do the last arg first 08:22 < ballistix> well, i would expect that the first i++ would get evaluated first, hehe 08:22 < josh_> or maybe even i+1 and i+1 or i and i - it's *undefined* 08:22 < ballistix> yeah 08:22 < aegray> josh_: why i+1 and i+1? 08:23 < josh_> it's undefined - the compiler can do whatever the hell it wants ;-) 08:23 * aegray makes santa snowboard 08:23 < ballistix> would it have to be ++i, ++i to be i+1 and i+1 08:23 < ballistix> oh ok 08:23 < ballistix> santa snowboard? 08:23 < aegray> http://www.teagames.com/games/frostyflips/play.php 08:24 < ballistix> ok ill take a look lol 08:25 < ballistix> here's two funny things 08:25 < ballistix> http://www.rofl.name/allyourbase/ 08:25 < ballistix> and after you've watched that 08:25 < ballistix> watch this 08:25 < ballistix> www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/222458 08:25 < ballistix> lol Zero Wing == teh pwnz0r 08:27 < aegray> :) 08:27 < aegray> one question i got asked which was pretty easy but i still think is cool is: 08:27 < aegray> swap two values without an intermediate 08:28 < ai2097> Xor. 08:28 < aegray> and 08:29 < ai2097> It's something like a ^= b; b ^= a; a ^= b; 08:29 < josh_> yep 08:29 < aegray> and a = a+b; b = a-b; a = a-b; 08:30 < josh_> if you call the original values of a and b A and B and their storage locations r0 and r1, that does 08:30 < aegray> although not goo 08:30 < josh_> r0 = A ^ B 08:30 < josh_> r1 = B ^ (A ^ B) = A 08:30 < josh_> r2 = A ^ (A ^ B) = B 08:30 < josh_> er, s/r2/r0 08:31 -!- MOoG [i=SlashIRC@host241-145.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 < ballistix> aegray: thats a damn fun game 08:32 < aegray> i know 08:32 < MOoG> what i can do whit "RUN" feature.. 08:32 < MOoG> ? 08:32 < aegray> run applications 08:33 < MOoG> example.. 08:33 < aegray> run /bin/yes 08:33 < ai2097> Combine with SCISSORS for a good time. 08:33 < MOoG> ok thx 08:33 < MOoG> i will try it ;) 08:36 < MOoG> only app? 08:37 < aegray> ? 08:37 < MOoG> applications 08:37 < MOoG> or videos , games 08:37 < aegray> apps only 08:37 < MOoG> ok 08:37 < aegray> executables 08:39 -!- reaper [n=marcos@host-70-45-15-110.onelinkpr.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:40 < ballistix> lol /bin/yes 08:40 < ballistix> is the best program 08:40 < ballistix> try it MOog 08:40 < MOoG> it doesn't work..ii try /bin/yes and my display freeze 08:40 < ballistix> hmmmm 08:41 < MOoG> i wrote: /bin/yes 08:41 < ballistix> sounds like the trunspaculator is interefering with the cross-reference 08:42 < ballistix> to the flux capacitor 08:42 < ai2097> Really? Because I could *swear* it's the moronic leading the clueless... to the abyss. 08:42 < ballistix> bahaha 08:42 < ballistix> sorta like the naked leads the blind 08:43 < MOoG> and i reboot 08:43 < ballistix> so naturally it freezes 08:43 < ballistix> " /bin/yes" is a program which just prints yes as many times as it can 08:43 < ballistix> so naturally it freezes 08:44 < MOoG> what i try ? 08:44 < MOoG> a really programs 08:44 < ai2097> /bin/true :p? 08:45 < MOoG> lol? 08:45 < MOoG> ^^ 08:45 < MOoG> it's another program like yes? 08:46 < ai2097> Its sole purpose in life is to "do nothing successfully." 08:47 < ai2097> Its companion, /bin/false, does everything unsuccessfully :p. 08:48 < MOoG> i want try this feature.. 08:49 < ai2097> Unless you have a program you need to run, there's no need to bother. 08:51 -!- reaper [n=marcos@host-70-45-15-110.onelinkpr.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:51 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ipodlinux ["I'm a pretty girl and I'm happy happy happy."] 08:51 < MOoG> . 08:51 < ai2097> 0_o? 08:51 < MOoG> lol 08:51 < MOoG> sorry im italian 08:51 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@193.5.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 08:53 < ballistix> lol, good reason to apologize 08:53 < ballistix> i think you can run games 08:53 < ballistix> try writing Pong or something 08:54 < ai2097> . . . 08:54 < MOoG> only pong? 08:54 < ai2097> Why bother using it at all unless you've -got- an executable you can't run from PZ/PZ2? 08:55 < ai2097> It's just like the window's "run" box... it's a tool that you use when you need it. 08:55 < MOoG> it freeze 08:55 < MOoG> i have viPodzilla 08:57 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fce3a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:01 < ballistix> vipodzilla = older than your mum 09:01 < ballistix> its so old 09:01 < MOoG> na 09:01 < MOoG> lol 09:01 < ballistix> " Why bother using it at all unless you've -got- an executable you can't run from PZ/PZ2?" ... wouldn't you still be running it from pz? 09:01 < MOoG> it's now exit a new version ;) 09:02 < MOoG> whit more appl like podwrite.. 09:02 < ballistix> " it's now exit a new version ;)" - I wish i spoke italian so i could understand this statement. 09:03 < MOoG> miz dawg compiled it recently 09:03 < MOoG> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1273&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105 09:06 < ballistix> just use podzilla 09:09 < MOoG> lol 09:10 < BHSPitLappy> MOoG: use "podzilla". 09:11 < ballistix> there is no support for shit like "Run" here anyways dude 09:12 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 09:12 < ballistix> so dont bother 09:14 < MOoG> ..i want icons.. =) 09:15 < MOoG> im going to search appl on file browser.. 09:15 < ballistix> lol just write a new gui for pz0 09:15 < ballistix> its easy, believe me 09:15 < ballistix> thats the first thing that i ever did 09:15 < ballistix> mac-like icons 09:16 < MOoG> im not a programmer... 09:16 < ballistix> neither was i (really) 09:16 < ballistix> its easy 09:16 < ballistix> just learn 09:17 < MOoG> i know only if else do while lol 09:17 < MOoG> asd 09:17 < MOoG> its easy? 09:17 < ballistix> yeah, that basics aren't that hard 09:18 < ballistix> this is for pz0 right? 09:18 < MOoG> yes 09:18 < ballistix> yeah. easy. 09:18 < ballistix> just look at how vipodzilla does it 09:19 < courtc> please don't 09:19 < ballistix> lol. 09:19 < ballistix> why not? 09:19 < ballistix> i remember when i did it it was fun 09:19 < courtc> vipodzilla's icons are the ugliest hack in a century. 09:19 < ballistix> yes 09:19 < ballistix> but 09:20 < ballistix> when you can't really program 09:20 < courtc> but nothing. 09:20 < ballistix> you have no alternative 09:20 < courtc> It's gross. 09:20 < ballistix> i dont think he cares 09:20 < ballistix> its not going to be on public display 09:20 < ballistix> so who really cares 09:21 < courtc> I identified about 30 bugs withn the first five seconds of looking at it. 09:21 < ballistix> lol 09:21 < ballistix> i can only vaguely remember the source 09:21 < MOoG> like.. 09:30 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-236-35.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodlinux 09:34 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-097-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:34 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-236-35.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:35 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-236-35.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodlinux 09:46 < ballistix> Back to the future ROX0Rz YOUR B0X0Rz 09:50 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@24.197.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 09:58 * MOoG va in away ( Non al computer... ) Mex registrati ( Si ) • /SlashIrc 1.0 • 10:06 -!- asraniel [n=asraniel@193.5.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:08 < MOoG> which what program open file pz0? 10:13 < BHSPitLappy> huh? 10:13 -!- zedrdave [n=zedrdave@dan75-1-87-88-125-171.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 10:15 < Lex> :D 10:16 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:16 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 10:19 < _asraniel> is it possible that pz2 has bugs? im not good at C, but my game crashes sometimes outside of its main loop. i added some printfs for that. it finishes the event handling and after that it crashes (sometimes) 10:23 < courtc> pz2 definetly has bugs, but I can say with 99% conviction that the bug is most likely in your game. 10:24 < _asraniel> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=59039#59039 10:24 < _asraniel> there is the backtrace 10:25 < _asraniel> pz2 want to free something that is already freed, dont know. ask me if you want more details 10:25 < courtc> Make sure you aren't stomping any memory. 10:25 < _asraniel> well.. how can i make sure that i dont? ;-) 10:26 -!- florian [n=florian@florian.alphacore.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:26 < courtc> just check your code. you might want to try valgrind 10:27 < _asraniel> ah yes, valgrind. i used it one time. im realy bad in C (java developer..) but i'll check it now 10:34 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:35 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:54 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-097-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:02 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has quit ["Sleep"] 11:05 < ballistix> gah 11:06 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-127-173.tpgi.com.au] has quit [""Sleeeeeeep time. 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12:32 < Vikking> see topic: 4G iPods and above are UNSUPPORTED :p 12:32 < cleric> i took the installer file 4 nano 12:33 < Vikking> wich installer file 12:33 < cleric> there was a special installer 4 nano, where can i get help with this? 12:34 < Vikking> http://ipodlinux.org/UNSUPPORTED 12:34 < Vikking> Do not come to the IRC channel and ask for help. 12:34 < Vikking> :p 12:35 -!- cleric [n=cleric@p548FD2AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:44 -!- Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@24-50-193-44.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:44 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@24-50-193-44.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:44 -!- florian [n=florian@florian.alphacore.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:45 -!- florian_2 [n=florian@florian.alphacore.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:45 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@67.110.41.3.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 -!- canuckid [n=chatzill@67.110.41.3.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:16 -!- asraniel_ [n=asraniel@93.244.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 13:16 < asraniel_> what do you think? http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/roguelike.png 13:17 -!- florian_2 is now known as floriana_ 13:17 -!- floriana_ is now known as _florian_ 13:20 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 13:22 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 13:23 < BHSPitLappy> asraniel_: neat! 13:23 < BHSPitLappy> could graphical tiles be used? 13:23 < asraniel_> dont know, i only like roguelikes with ASCII code 13:23 < asraniel_> and it would probably be slower with tiles 13:23 < asraniel_> i think 13:23 < asraniel_> i have no idea, i never tested my code on my ipod 13:25 < BHSPitLappy> well, with hotdog... 13:25 < BHSPitLappy> register the module at http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module 13:25 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 13:26 < asraniel_> dont know hotdog, just heard that its some kind of a graphic accelerator or so, do i have to change my code for it or is it automaticaly used? 13:28 < asraniel_> and i dont have a name for my game right now.. so i wont register it before i have a game 13:28 < BHSPitLappy> code, I'm afraid 13:28 < asraniel_> *name 13:28 < BHSPitLappy> RoguePod? :P 13:29 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@24.197.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:29 < BHSPitLappy> or, uh, roguelikes... everything doesn't have to have "pod" thrown into it, I suppose :/ 13:31 < BHSPitLappy> anyway, cool module, dude! :) 13:33 < asraniel_> i begann yesterday, so it doesent do much.. walking around "random" maps and some monsters you can kill and earn XPs.. thats it (ah, and find hidden treasures, but you cant do anything with them) 13:38 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:44 < yuriks> heh, I ask mini uqestions perfectly.... 13:45 < yuriks> but that doesn't matter, you didn't hear that 13:47 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 13:49 -!- [HSO4-] [n=emailed@CPE-60-224-221-165.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 13:53 < [HSO4-]> hmmmph 13:58 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 14:00 < yuriks> ARGH 14:00 < yuriks> blank screen again 14:02 < erus`> omg... i missed _asraniel :( 14:02 < erus`> damned sleep 14:06 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-236-35.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 14:07 < yuriks> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2095 14:07 < yuriks> this seems to be the same problem as me 14:08 < yuriks> but I arleady got a recent version of make_fw 14:11 < asraniel_> erus`: im still here 14:11 < erus`> ah hi 14:13 < asraniel_> have you seen my screenshot? 14:13 -!- G2_vincent [n=ingenieu@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:14 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 14:14 < [HSO4-]> so has audio sync for videos on the 4G been fixed, or is everyones audi 18 seconds ahead of the video =\ ? 14:14 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:15 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 14:16 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:16 < yuriks> well 14:16 < yuriks> it worked now 14:16 < yuriks> but podzilla just displays garbage 14:16 < yuriks> do I need a special build of podzilla for the mini? 14:17 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 14:18 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:18 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 14:19 < erus`> very cool asraniel_ :) 14:19 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:21 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 14:22 -!- wizatcomputer [n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:34 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:40 < erus`> asraniel_, have you thought of a name yet? 14:41 < [HSO4-]> anyone familiar with using 3rd party applications / games 14:42 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:42 < erus`> [HSO4-], what do you mean :S 14:43 < [HSO4-]> um 14:43 < [HSO4-]> chopper? snake? all those sorts of things 14:44 < erus`> i got chopper on my 5g :) 14:44 < [HSO4-]> nice 14:44 < erus`> but the block things aer too small 14:44 < [HSO4-]> anyway, about that... do i have to compile it in any special way, or will any C compiler do the job? 14:44 < [HSO4-]> or c++ compiler 14:44 < erus`> for it to be a module? 14:45 < [HSO4-]> to be able to use it on my ipod 14:45 < erus`> yep ok... to compile an existing game that worked on podzilla 0 you have to only add the #define PZ_COMPAT and a few bits at the bottom to make sure it adds to the menu 14:46 < [HSO4-]> what about just executing the binary from file browser? 14:46 < erus`> to add a game that wasnt written for podzilla is not such a trivial task, you will no doubt have to change alot of the ui and stuff 14:47 < erus`> what binary? 14:47 < [HSO4-]> so you cant just execute the binary from file browser? 14:47 < [HSO4-]> once its compiled 14:47 < [HSO4-]> for games, they come in .c files, and someone told me i need to compile it to make it binary 14:48 < [HSO4-]> then im wondering what i'd do after that, can you just execute it from file browser and have it work> 14:48 < erus`> maybe... 14:49 < erus`> but it has to use libs compiled for ipod 14:49 < [HSO4-]> hmmm.. 14:50 < [HSO4-]> gah, so much confusing and sketchy information 14:53 < mr_cheez> it's not so confusing or sketchy. think about porting an application to a new unix. 14:53 * [HSO4-] has only ever used windows and mac 14:53 < mr_cheez> you compile, ld (with the right libraries) move it to the new target system and go. 14:54 < [HSO4-]> im installing linux the first chance i get, but i can hardly install it on this comp whilst my parents need it 14:54 < mr_cheez> it's the same with programming for any embedded system 14:54 < [HSO4-]> but the moment we get a new one...! 14:54 < [HSO4-]> ahhh 14:54 < [HSO4-]> so if i compile it with the correct libraries, then i will be able to just execute the binaries from file browser and enjoy 14:54 < mr_cheez> you have a host and a target and a toolchain to build the aplication on the host and move it to the target 14:54 < [HSO4-]> unless im still mistaken 14:55 < [HSO4-]> crap, that means compiling my own podzilla doesnt it 14:55 < erus`> no 14:56 < erus`> podzilla is modular now... and besides you said you wanted to compile as a seperate binary 14:56 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 14:56 < mr_cheez> (i think) the application's code will need to be modified, especially dor the GUI stuff. X doesn't work on the iPod. i thought i read that there was a ncurses implementation on the iPod. 14:56 < imphasing> Yeah, but it's sketchy.. 14:56 < imphasing> :/ 14:57 < erus`> mr_cheez, i thought podzilla used X :| 14:57 < imphasing> I think it works though. 14:57 < imphasing> erus`: microwindows 14:57 < erus`> ah yes ;) 14:57 < mr_cheez> checking 14:57 < [HSO4-]> i thought only podzilla2 was modular 14:57 < [HSO4-]> and i have the nightly builds of podzilla, whatever they may be 14:57 < erus`> thats what we were talking about!!! 14:58 < asraniel_> erus`: re. no, still no name, even the beer couldnt help yesterday night.. ;-) 14:58 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-105-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:59 < erus`> its a rogue like based in a dungeon rite? is there any final item needed like the amulet of blah or whatever? 14:59 < mr_cheez> applications can use the TTK gui toolkit. i have not checked to see if this is a layey the implements all the X windows calls or not. does soemone want to give a straight up yes/no, whether that's a subset of X? 14:59 < erus`> microwindows ^ 15:00 < imphasing> Nope, it's not the same. 15:00 < asraniel_> erus`: well i think yes, some kind of a final item. but i dont know much yet, im just making the basic stuff now so that i can implement the ideas later 15:00 < imphasing> IT's compatible with microwindows 15:00 < mr_cheez> thanks. microwindows seems to be a subset of X 15:00 < imphasing> I don't mess with microwindows 15:00 < imphasing> :P 15:00 < erus`> yeh but if you think of something maybe you can name the game on it sort of thing :) 15:01 < erus`> also 1 more thing asraniel_, how scalable is the hui so for :) 15:02 < erus`> hui = gui for = far etc etc 15:02 < asraniel_> erus`: it seems scalable, what do you mean with scalable? hmm.. i think will just code one more thing and then i show you the code 15:03 < erus`> ok cool 15:03 < imphasing> asraniel_: Are you porting something? 15:03 < erus`> no hes writting a roguelike from scratch 15:04 < imphasing> ah 15:04 < asraniel_> but.. i tell you already, the code isnt the best. i have no plan, im just implementing one feature after the other. and i dont have pz2 on my ipod right now so i cant test the speed 15:04 -!- ubiquity [i=livion@68-179-155-62.bsr-c10-d0.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 -!- ubiquity [i=livion@68-179-155-62.bsr-c10-d0.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:05 < [HSO4-]> so just a straight yes or no answer here, to clarify: if i have a 4G ipod with the latest nightly builds of the kernel and pozilla, and i want to install chopper.c on it, will compiling this with a C compiler with the correct libraries and then executing the binary with the filebrowser make the game playable? 15:05 < imphasing> er 15:05 -!- joecool|laptop [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 < imphasing> probably? 15:05 < imphasing> What podzilla? 15:05 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-105-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:06 < [HSO4-]> nightly build of podzilla, dunno which it is 15:06 < imphasing> then you'd better find out.. 15:06 < [HSO4-]> the one on the same page as the kernel nightly build :P 15:07 < [HSO4-]> i cant find it anywhere 15:07 < imphasing> Is there a loading screen when you start it up? 15:07 < imphasing> Did you install modules? 15:07 < imphasing> Then that's pz0 15:07 < imphasing> You'd have to compile it into podzilla 15:07 < [HSO4-]> k 15:07 < [HSO4-]> gah 15:07 < imphasing> recompiling the whole thing 15:08 < [HSO4-]> okay, can podzilla2 play videos :D ? 15:08 < imphasing> no 15:08 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:09 < [HSO4-]> damn 15:09 < yuriks> yuriks was set on fire. This terrible calamity has slowed them 0 days, 08:32:46 from level 43. 15:09 < yuriks> crap o crap 15:10 < erus`> wtf 15:12 < [HSO4-]> ? 15:14 -!- intim [i=UNKNOWN@d129098.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:15 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-79.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:15 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:16 < [HSO4-]> i imagine the next podzilla will allow you to look around your files and such while listening to music? 15:17 < yuriks> yes 15:18 < erus`> yes and it will spin the harddrive so fast it will act as a wireless card so you can use the internet 15:19 < yuriks> rofl 15:20 < yuriks> meh, ppl can use CRTs as FM transmitter, why won't that work? =P 15:20 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:22 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 15:23 < imphasing> Becuase the ipod screen isn't an CRT? 15:23 < erus`> :) 15:24 < joecool|laptop> hrm.. i guess throwing this 2g's drive against the floor didn't free the platters (sounds like it freed up the heads though... does not sound good) 15:24 < [HSO4-]> lol 15:25 < [HSO4-]> i've always wanted to be able to use my ipod on the internets, good that the next podzilla will have that 15:26 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-153-227.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 15:26 < erus`> yes and they are gonna write a driver for that X800 chip they found in the depths of the ipod video, so we can play quake4 15:27 < [HSO4-]> awesome 15:27 < [HSO4-]> will it be able to output the video to my plasma screen tv aswell? 15:28 -!- MarcoPolo_ [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:28 < erus`> no, dont be ridiculous 15:30 < [HSO4-]> damn 15:30 < [HSO4-]> well at least it will have the other stuff 15:30 < [HSO4-]> when will it be out.. tomorrow? a few hours? 15:30 < asraniel_> when its done 15:31 < [HSO4-]> damn 15:31 < imphasing> It'll also allow you to live in a magical fairly palace, where everything is always perfect. 15:31 < [HSO4-]> but i want quake4 on my ipod now 15:31 < [HSO4-]> that place exists? 15:32 < [HSO4-]> sheesh, im gonna bug a developer until they give me a nightly build of this quake4 playing, internet connection, fairy place housing podzilla 15:36 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:37 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:38 < jassmith> am i right to assume pz2 loads all modules at boot because it's too slow to load each one on demand? 15:39 < BleuLlama> it loads them at boot because that's when it has to be done 15:42 -!- erus` [n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:42 -!- Vaffanculo [n=vanquish@208-58-242-203.s203.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:42 -!- MarcoPolo_ [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:42 -!- joecool|laptop [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:43 < jassmith> is that a limitation of ucdl? 15:43 -!- erus` [n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:44 < BleuLlama> sure. why not. 15:44 -!- Vaffancu1o [n=vanquish@208-58-242-245.s245.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:45 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:48 < erus`> i hiope they bring out an ipod with an 80 * 60 screen. pong is so much fun 15:55 < erus`> asraniel_, can i peek at the code yet? 15:56 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@208-58-242-203.s203.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:58 < asraniel_> erus`: ok, soon 15:58 < [HSO4-]> i hope they bring out an ipod with a 40 inch screen 15:59 < [HSO4-]> when will the N64 emulator be ready for the ipod 16:00 < erus`> yeh... shh now :) 16:00 < [HSO4-]> and can my ipod change my car tyre 16:00 < [HSO4-]> (i want that) 16:03 < yuriks> hey, anyone uses gtkpod? 16:05 < asraniel_> ok erus`, here it is: http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/files/hackem.tar.gz 16:05 < erus`> nice one 16:05 < asraniel_> remember, i started yesterday night, not even 24 hours ago 16:05 -!- kuchdawg [i=user@64-126-71-212-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:05 < asraniel_> and i know that the code is horrible... 16:05 < asraniel_> but well, i works.. more or less 16:05 -!- Paltsu [n=hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #iPodLinux 16:06 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 16:07 < kuchdawg> i just tried installing iPL manually...and i'm getting an error: 16:07 < kuchdawg> init: exec rc failed 16:07 < kuchdawg> inti: booting to single user mode 16:07 < kuchdawg> init:exec of single user shell failed 16:07 < kuchdawg> init: /min/inetd respawining too fast 16:07 < erus`> not bad :) 16:09 < erus`> doesnt fill up the 5g screen tho 16:09 < erus`> thats what i mean when i said scalable 16:09 < SereR0kR> hm 16:09 < SereR0kR> there should be a manual for installing iPL on a mac formatted iPod on OS X 16:10 < [HSO4-]> http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/bailar_small.jpg - i can see up her skirty 16:11 < yuriks> hmm, is gtkpod supposed to 'forget' all the music I imported into it? 16:13 < rmh3093> did you 'forget' to sync 16:13 < erus`> i like it asraniel_ :) 16:15 < yuriks> rmh3093: do I NEED to sync? I want it like in iTunes, where I have all my music, but I only want to transfer some of it. 16:16 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has joined #ipodlinux 16:16 < kuchdawg> does anyone here have a working 5g? 16:16 < SereR0kR> yes 16:16 < SereR0kR> but i also have no time ;> 16:17 < kuchdawg> what guide did you use? 16:17 < kuchdawg> ipodlinux.org/5g? 16:17 < asraniel_> erus`: as i said, its very early.. did you look at the code? 16:17 < erus`> yep and still am. 16:17 < asraniel_> its horrible, isnt it? 16:18 < erus`> not too bad. can we go pm 16:18 < mr_cheez> can someone point me to an "issue list" that's preventing ipodlinux from working on a 5g? 16:18 < yuriks> lol, code of what? 16:18 < yuriks> ah, and about gtkpod... 16:19 < erus`> it works mr_cheez its on mine now 16:19 < asraniel_> erus`: yes we can, but i would prefer jabber or something like that. because i dont know if i can pm right now, i get disconnected many times, so often i dont use my registred nick 16:20 < erus`> hmm errr 16:20 < SereR0kR> kuchdawg what guide did you use? <- i didn't say i have a working ipodlinux 16:21 -!- NoSuchNick [i=user1@p5488D9AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:21 < asraniel_> erus`: i also have icq and msn, but well. but i can try to get pm working 16:21 < erus`> asraniel_, i made a new jabber name -> erus` 16:21 < erus`> ah msn :) 16:21 < erus`> you should have said 16:21 < asraniel_> i prefer jabber 16:22 < kuchdawg> oh i used the one on the 5g and another one.. 16:22 < kuchdawg> idk why it didn't work.. 16:22 < yuriks> heh, asraniel_, you nick looks like >_> on the end 16:22 < asraniel_> but well, give what you have ;-) 16:22 < asraniel_> i know, its that extrem bad internet connection i have here, i get disconnected often and when i reconnect my name is already in use 16:23 < erus`> jabber then? -> erus` 16:23 < SereR0kR> what size should ipod_boot_sector_backup have? 16:23 < SereR0kR> on 5g 16:23 < asraniel_> erus`: that is not JID ;-) mine is asraniel@swissjabber.ch 16:24 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-66e9584e8fe2131b] has joined #ipodlinux 16:24 < erus`> errr. can we use msn ? 16:25 < asraniel_> yes, asraniel@hotmail.com 16:25 < erus`> gaim is allready set up with msn 16:25 < asraniel_> it has also jabber 16:25 < erus`> ye but i dont have an account :) 16:27 < NoSuchNick> Is a bitshift faster than an integer multiplication on the ipod? 16:29 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-68-88-141-181.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:34 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-66e9584e8fe2131b] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:36 < yuriks> NoSuchNick: proably? 16:39 < NoSuchNick> yurik: Thx, i guess i will just try it out with a few 1000 iterations 16:40 < yuriks> yeah, but I think shifts proably are faster 16:42 < SereR0kR> i got a problem with Linux installing on 5G on a mac 16:42 < SereR0kR> bootloader starts, writes a few lines and then reboot 16:42 < SereR0kR> disk mode works 16:42 < SereR0kR> anyone knows what the problem is and how i can fix it? 16:44 < erus`> it caqnt read macpods 16:45 < SereR0kR> so i need a FAT32 iPod O.o? 16:45 < SereR0kR> thought it works with HFS iPods 16:50 < SereR0kR> do I need to format something on my iPod when I want to install Linux on it on a HFS+ iPod? 16:50 < SereR0kR> the Mac Installation Manual sais nothing about it 16:52 < imphasing> I need to buy a keyboard.. 16:52 < imphasing> :/ 16:53 < SereR0kR> why? 16:53 < imphasing> Becuase I don't have one. 16:53 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-078-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 < SereR0kR> how do you type? =D Screen Keyboard? 16:54 < SereR0kR> ^^ 16:54 < imphasing> Keyboard, as in a musical one. 16:54 < SereR0kR> -.- 16:54 < imphasing> I need to be able to work a synth 16:54 < imphasing> :) 16:54 -!- roo9 is now known as roo9_ 16:55 < SereR0kR> mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2 <- does this format the "big" partition into fat32? is it dangerous if i do it on my Mac? 16:55 < SereR0kR> if my iPod is not mac formatted 16:55 < SereR0kR> -not 16:55 < imphasing> shouldn't be 16:56 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:56 < asraniel_> anyone knows if the random function is fast on the ipod? 16:56 < SereR0kR> ok 16:56 < SereR0kR> % mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3 16:56 < SereR0kR> % tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sda3 16:56 < imphasing> asraniel_: Define "fast" 16:56 < SereR0kR> first line does format sda3 (which partition is it on iPod?) to ext3 16:56 -!- roo9_ is now known as roo9 16:56 < SereR0kR> what does the 2nd line do? 16:56 < asraniel_> imphasing: im doing a roguelike, so i need random quite ofted, specialy when i create a new map 16:57 < imphasing> asraniel_: Well, it's not really random, but it should be fast enough for that.. 16:57 < imphasing> might be better to write one in asm if you need to do that though 16:57 < asraniel_> i dont know asm ;-) and i dont care how random it is, dont have to be perfect 16:58 -!- slasherx [n=slasherx@24-247-171-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:00 < imphasing> sub r,r,r,ror#13 17:00 < imphasing> hehehe 17:00 * imphasing snickers 17:01 < slasherx> how do i make a tier 2 menu? 17:01 < slasherx> like if i select an option from the base menu, it goes to another menu 17:02 -!- NoSuchNick is now known as NoSuchNick|codin 17:03 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 17:05 -!- slasherx [n=slasherx@24-247-171-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [] 17:11 < SereR0kR> % mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2 17:11 < SereR0kR> % mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3 17:11 < SereR0kR> % tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sda3 <- on my iPod /dev/disk2s3 is the big partition, what should i do O.o 17:11 < SereR0kR> it's from this 5g Manual 17:12 < kuchdawg> have you made a my_sw.bin ? 17:13 < SereR0kR> yes -.- 17:13 < SereR0kR> ah i found the problem 17:13 < SereR0kR> afk 17:14 < kuchdawg> what was the problem? 17:14 < SereR0kR> a f k 17:14 < SereR0kR> i think i got it but i don't know 17:20 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-078-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:22 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-078-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:31 < yuriks> ugh 17:31 < yuriks> gtkpod is really unstable 17:33 < SereR0kR> HFS+ should be built in iPodloader 2 17:33 < SereR0kR> ^^ 17:33 < SereR0kR> hm, does the first ipodloader work on 5g? 17:33 < SereR0kR> i think not, right? 17:34 < yuriks> argh, crashed again 17:34 < bluey> loader2 works but it's slow as hell 17:34 < yuriks> It managed to crash 5 times in 5 minutes 17:36 < yuriks> Not to say it is confusing as hell 17:36 < SereR0kR> bluey loader2 works but it's slow as hell <- it doesn't work with hfs+ 17:37 < bluey> i guess that too :) 17:37 < SereR0kR> -.- 17:37 < bluey> i`ve wrote a script to convert Video's to h264 for iPod. Anyone interessted in trying out? 17:37 < yuriks> hmm, any iPod sync util that doesn't sucks? 17:38 < bluey> try amarok 1.4 17:38 < yuriks> gtkpod is a fumegating pile of crap 17:40 < yuriks> ack, no slack packages for 1.4 >_> 17:41 < bluey> try the svn script on kde-apps.org 17:42 < rmh3093> bluey: does it depend on ffmpeg? 17:43 < bluey> yes 17:43 < erus`> i think a fixed point super fast software 3d engine would be cool. (solid colour faces) :) then we could play gaems like stunts 17:43 < bluey> mhhh it works with nautilus-actions too great 17:44 < yuriks> stunts rocks 17:44 < yuriks> and we even have a (click/driving) wheel! 17:44 < erus`> :D 17:46 < yuriks> wow, gtkpod seg faults if you click anywhere you are not supposed to 17:50 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:53 -!- reaper [n=marcos@host-70-45-15-110.onelinkpr.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:54 -!- G2_vincent [n=ingenieu@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:57 -!- reaper [n=marcos@host-70-45-15-110.onelinkpr.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:58 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fce3a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["XChat Aqua"] 18:00 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:03 -!- justinsand [n=dingdong@251.224.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 < justinsand> hi 18:03 < justinsand> i got some trouble 18:03 < justinsand> my ipod has a black screen i got the 4th gen 18:04 < justinsand> i have mac os X 18:04 < justinsand> non clicking noises with the click wheel ether 18:04 < justinsand> no* 18:04 < erus`> man that black theme with tri-grad bar at the top looks sexy :) 18:05 < justinsand> omg racist lol 18:05 < justinsand> jk 18:05 < justinsand> well 18:05 < justinsand> can anybody help? 18:05 < erus`> good joke... 18:06 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fce3a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:06 < yuriks> hmmm 18:06 < yuriks> justinsand: that may be the same problem I am having with my mini 18:06 < yuriks> after the apple logo? 18:06 < justinsand> no 18:06 < justinsand> i get the apple 18:06 < justinsand> then 18:07 < justinsand> the linux logo 18:07 < justinsand> then i see bunch of lines of text 18:07 < yuriks> hmm, then no 18:07 < justinsand> then nothing 18:07 < yuriks> I don't get the linux logo 18:07 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-078-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:07 < justinsand> just black 18:07 < yuriks> Hmmm, seems like a problem with podzilla 18:08 < justinsand> well is it fixable? 18:09 < yuriks> I dunno 18:09 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:10 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:11 * justinsand hello 18:14 -!- Milenko is now known as Mr_Milenko 18:16 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-110-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 < justinsand> i wish this could be fixed 18:22 < kuchdawg> you could try reinstalling linux 18:22 < justinsand> i did 18:22 < justinsand> ill do it one more time ok 18:23 < justinsand> should i put it into diskmode or regular mode? 18:25 < justinsand> Grrr 18:26 < justinsand> god d*** red folder 18:26 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 < justinsand> ok 18:30 < justinsand> i reinstalled everything 18:30 < justinsand> now i still have it 18:30 < justinsand> i can boot into the apple os 18:30 < justinsand> with no black screen 18:31 < justinsand> when i look at the screen at a diff angle i see a L at the botoom 18:31 < justinsand> bottom* 18:31 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-236-35.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodlinux 18:32 < kuchdawg> idk.... 18:45 -!- slasherx [n=me@24-247-171-121.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #Ipodlinux 18:49 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 < forceflow1049> This works fine on the desktop, but crashes pz2 on the ipod... why? pz_menu_add_action( FORMULA_BASE "/Triangles", triangle_menu ); 18:50 < josh_> how does it crash it? 18:50 < slasherx> quits to shell 18:51 < josh_> does it make a file called podzilla.oops in the linux partition? 18:51 < slasherx> yes 18:51 < josh_> can you paste the contents of that file in #ipodlinux.flood? 18:51 < slasherx> ya just a sec, lemme connect the ippod 18:51 < josh_> thanks 18:53 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:54 < slasherx> see it? 18:54 < josh_> yep 18:54 < slasherx> k 18:54 < josh_> it's apparently crashing in ttk_run 18:54 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=Shadowar@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:55 < forceflow1049> is there a workaround? 18:56 < josh_> forceflow1049: are you and slasherx working on the same thing 18:56 < forceflow1049> yeah 18:56 < josh_> ok 18:56 < josh_> er, add a ? to that line 18:57 < forceflow1049> before triangle_menu 18:58 < josh_> you don't need to have triangle_menu at all if it's just adding more menu items 18:58 < josh_> just add your action on "/Extras/Utilities/Formula/Triangle/Area" or whatever 18:58 < josh_> pz2 will automatically create the menus that don't exist yet 18:58 < slasherx> awesome :) 18:58 < josh_> you only concern yourself with the leaves of the menu tree (the stuff that does something *other* than just open another menu) 18:58 < slasherx> and what if we were going to add something after you select area? 18:58 < josh_> huh? 18:59 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-236-35.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 18:59 < josh_> also, the prototype for a callback function is PzWindow *func(), not void func() 18:59 < slasherx> ok 18:59 < Ramzi22> in hte hotdog demo, the rotating with the clickwheel doesnt seem to be working, there semms to be a switch case on variable ch, but i dont see where it checks if a button has been pressed 19:00 < josh_> Ramzi22: the select() call 19:00 < slasherx> pz_menu_add_action( FORMULA_BASE "/Triangles", triangle_menu ); 19:00 < josh_> slasherx: you don't need that, and it's detrimental 19:01 < slasherx> hmm ok.. 19:01 < Ramzi22> i also just found a check_pending() call 19:01 < erus`> is hotdog nothing todo with podzilla? 19:01 < josh_> erus`: so far, that's correct 19:01 < josh_> eventually pz2 will use hd 19:01 < erus`> ok cool 19:02 -!- SereRokR [n=Fletcher@Fd202.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:02 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-110-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:07 < erus`> does hotdog handle movement also? 19:07 < josh_> yes 19:08 -!- SereRokR [n=Fletcher@Fd202.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["XChat Aqua"] 19:14 -!- SereRokR [n=Fletcher@Fd202.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 < jedix> use hd? 19:17 < Kingstone> yes 19:17 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fce3a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17 -!- ILikeLinux| [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 19:17 < jedix> ?hotdog 19:17 < jedix> !hotdog 19:17 < jedix> damn you bot, work 19:19 -!- ILikeLinux| [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 19:23 -!- zedrdave [n=zedrdave@dan75-1-87-88-125-171.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 < josh_> `hotdog 19:25 < iplbot> hotdog is a fast compositing graphics engine with support for alpha blending. [from josh_] 19:27 < asraniel_> when will the day come when i code more than 2 lines and i dont have to resolve a compiler error first.. 19:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:31 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:32 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 < slasherx> are there any modules out there are commented almost every line? lol 19:37 < slasherx> to learn from 19:38 < imphasing> mymodule 19:39 < josh_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Modifying_Podzilla has mymodule with copious comments 19:39 -!- NoSuchNick|codin [i=user1@p5488D9AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:39 < forceflow1049> we use that... 19:40 < josh_> have you read the ttk and pz2 apis? 19:40 < josh_> http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttk-api.pdf 19:40 < josh_> http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/pz2-api.pdf 19:41 < forceflow1049> i've ween working through to pz2 api 19:42 < forceflow1049> been 19:42 < forceflow1049> trying to add text input 19:43 < josh_> ask jonrelay; he wrote some good TI widgets 19:46 < forceflow1049> alright... 19:54 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:00 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:06 -!- G2_vincent [n=ingenieu@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:11 -!- _asraniel [n=asraniel@224.36.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 < erus`> _asraniel, can you upload your updates :D 20:14 < justinsand> so can someone help me 20:14 < justinsand> Damn screen black 20:15 < BHSPitLappy> did you ask a question? 20:15 < _asraniel> erus`: soon, i just have to make something in the code 20:15 < erus`> np 20:15 < justinsand> how do i fix the contrast 20:15 < justinsand> cause 20:15 < justinsand> the click speeker aint makeing noise 20:15 < BHSPitLappy> _asraniel: did you register a name yet? 20:16 < BHSPitLappy> I'd check myself but it takes me 5 frickin' minutes just to load a page... 20:16 < erus`> frick 20:16 < justinsand> when i look at a differant angle 20:16 < justinsand> i see a letter on the bottom 20:16 < BHSPitLappy> justinsand: try holding MENU for a while? 20:16 < justinsand> L 20:16 < justinsand> ill try that 20:16 < justinsand> holdon 20:16 < justinsand> ill boot my ipod into linux again 20:17 < _asraniel> BHSPitLappy: no, dont have a name atm.. 20:17 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as BamaWOLF 20:18 < justinsand> ok 20:18 < justinsand> i hold the menu button down for 5 seconds 20:18 < justinsand> nothing happend 20:19 < erus`> irogue is taken before you ask - its a palm port :S 20:19 < erus`> justinsand, hold it for 20 seconds 20:19 < justinsand> ok 20:19 < justinsand> nope nothing 20:20 < erus`> maybe its 25 ... just hold for a minite and if it fdont work it dont work 20:20 < BHSPitLappy> RoguePod? or, you know... "Rogue"... 20:20 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:21 < justinsand> ok nothing happend 20:21 < BHSPitLappy> justinsand: you see the "scrolling text" okay? 20:21 < justinsand> yes i do 20:21 < erus`> i made you hold it for a minuet :D 20:21 < erus`> minute * 20:22 < BHSPitLappy> justinsand: www.ipodlinux.org/Updating_Podzilla 20:22 < justinsand> do i hold menu while its booting? 20:22 < BHSPitLappy> do that. 20:22 < BHSPitLappy> no 20:22 < BHSPitLappy> just try to update podzilla 20:22 < justinsand> how i dont understand the link you gave me 20:24 -!- asraniel_ [n=asraniel@93.244.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26 < BHSPitLappy> justinsand: uhh, do what it says? 20:28 < justinsand> k 20:28 < justinsand> sry im such a newb 20:28 < erus`> maybe hes not on linux 20:28 < justinsand> im on windows 20:30 -!- reaper [n=marcos@host-70-45-15-110.onelinkpr.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 < reaper> is there anyway to restore an ipod nano's firmware other than a backup? cause my backup is broken [ :-( ] and i am not able to run the ipod updater with wine, and i dont have a winbox near me :( 20:33 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-29-83-197.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 < justinsand> ok 20:37 < justinsand> i did what it told me 20:37 < justinsand> still have a black screen 20:39 < justinsand> I can see a L on the bottom of the screen when i look at the side of it 20:40 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:45 -!- reaper [n=marcos@host-70-45-15-110.onelinkpr.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:46 -!- G2_vincent [n=ingenieu@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:47 < thoand> good evening 20:48 -!- zedrdave [n=zedrdave@dan75-1-87-88-125-171.dsl.club-internet.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:48 -!- zedrdave [n=zedrdave@dan75-1-87-88-125-171.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 20:48 -!- ScootScat [n=yeahrigh@71-80-131-108.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:52 < _asraniel> why can i get a *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: when i make a malloc?? 20:54 < justinsand> cause you touch yourself at night? 20:57 < thoand> does anyone use loader 2 in combination with a loader.cfg? in the moment I place one on the vfat partition loader 2 doeas not show a menu, if I remove it he finds all kernels, but it takes a while until he is ready with searching, therefore I would use a cfg. could it be a problem that my linux partition is ext3 formated? 21:03 < erus`> yes it may be 21:03 < erus`> i dont think loader2 has an ext3 driver yet. i may be wrong 21:16 < BHSPitLappy> justinsand: grow up 21:17 < thoand> does loader 2 not need a ext3 driver to find the images himself? 21:19 < BHSPitLappy> thoand: it's a known bug, just don't use a cfg 21:21 < thoand> ah, ok 21:21 < thoand> is there a place for bugreports to see, so that I do not have to ask you things already asked? 21:22 < josh_> https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/courtc/report/1 I think 21:23 < josh_> nope, it's 21:23 < josh_> https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/courtc/trac.cgi/report/1 I think 21:24 < thoand> hm, there are not many in there 21:24 < thoand> wouldn't be a "known bugs" section something interesyting for the wiki? 21:25 < zedrdave> if I need something like a progression bar, "sliders" are the way to go, right? 21:25 < josh_> zedrdave: pretty much 21:25 < josh_> take a look at core/module.c, it has a progress bar in there 21:25 < zedrdave> ok cool... 21:26 < thoand> has one of you a triple boot with iPL and rockbox runing on a 5g ipod? if the loader 2 apperas there is "Rockbox" in it, but after loading the image my ipod returns to the loader 2 interface, i hav no idea where the problem is 21:27 < linuxstb> thoand: Are you saying that ipodloader2 loads your rockbox.ipod, but then refuses to run it? 21:28 < thoand> it looks like he is loading it (progress bar) and aufter this the loader 2 menu comes again 21:28 < linuxstb> Does it display any messages? 21:29 < thoand> yes, I'll try to copy them (they disappear fast) 21:33 < thoand> it takes a while... 21:33 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@unaffiliated/demonthing] has joined #ipodlinux 21:35 < zedrdave> is it OK to add a widget to a window from within another widget (and not at init time)? 21:35 < zedrdave> or am I gonna get in trouble? 21:37 < thoand> linuxstb: http://nopaste.php-q.net/196079 that is what he sais 21:40 < linuxstb> thoand: And then ipodloader2 just goes back to the menu without displaying anything else? 21:41 < thoand> after these messages there comes a progress bar (I think shows loading the kernel) and then the loader 2menu appears 21:41 < linuxstb> Did you compile ipodloader2 yourself? 21:42 < thoand> yes i did 21:42 < thoand> as mentioned in the 5g howto 21:43 < linuxstb> In which case, you could add a delay, so you can read the error message after Rockbox is loaded (I'm sure there must be one). 21:44 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=Steve-O@adsl-68-88-141-181.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 < thoand> sorry do not understand what you mean eith "add a delay" were could I do so? 21:47 < linuxstb> Join #ipodlinux.flood and I'll paste some code for you. 21:53 -!- JonasNZ [n=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has joined #ipodlinux 21:54 -!- erus` [n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56 -!- erus` [n=tmo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:58 < JonasNZ> why does the latest nightly not seem to have video support? is it not in pz2? 21:58 < BHSPitLappy> video as in, moving pictures, or video as in the 5G? 21:59 < JonasNZ> moving pictures 21:59 < JonasNZ> i converted a video as instructed etc, but i cant make it play from the file browser 21:59 < BHSPitLappy> pz2 has never had a video player. 22:02 -!- Una^ [n=Una@80-46-78-232.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 -!- erus` [n=tmo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 22:05 -!- erus` [n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:06 < thoand> linuxstb: now the 100% progress bar is shown for 5 seconds, until the menu of loader 2 is shown again 22:11 < imphasing> I wonder what the "^M" character in vi is.. 22:13 < slasherx> uhh where is make_fw at? 22:13 < slasherx> sorry for the stupid question.. 22:13 < erus`> look at the 5g page -> then dependences 22:13 < erus`> how ever one spells it 22:14 < slasherx> thanks 22:14 < BleuLlama> imphasing: getting rid of newline characters in the mame source? 22:14 < slasherx> trying to install loader2 22:14 < imphasing> BleuLlama: I was just wondering what the were doing there..vim doesn't see them, but nvi does 22:14 -!- lumpy [n=bob@66-230-104-25-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:15 * imphasing tried a %s/^M// and nothing happened 22:15 < BleuLlama> the different vi clones handle the files differently, one doesn't show them, one does. since it's a MS-DOS newline thing. msdos does /n/r, unix is just /n old mac did /r :( 22:15 < BleuLlama> :%s/^v^m//g 22:15 < linuxstb> thoand: I'll try ipodloader2 now on my 5g and see what happens. 22:16 < imphasing> ah, hehe.. 22:16 < BleuLlama> ctrl-v ctrl-m to enter the newline into the search-replace thing 22:16 < imphasing> Why can't all newlines be the same.. 22:16 < imphasing> :( 22:16 < BleuLlama> i got rid of them in some of the files a while ago 22:16 < imphasing> Oh, vim looks pretty.. 22:16 < imphasing> I've been too used to the monotone nvi.. 22:16 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:16 < imphasing> Yay for highlighting! 22:17 -!- thoand [n=thoand@gentoo/developer/thoand] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 < thoand> linuxstb: I had a disconnect, could you read my last message? 22:17 < imphasing> AH!! 22:18 < imphasing> %s/\n//g looks freaky. 22:19 < justinsand> so 22:19 < justinsand> nobody can help me? 22:19 < imphasing> BleuLlama: Why cast the argc and argv as void in osd_init? 22:19 < imphasing> :/ 22:19 < linuxstb> thoand: How would I know that? :) I'm going to try ipodloader2 now on my 5g and see if it works for me. 22:20 < thoand> heh good question 22:20 < thoand> I wrote [23:06] < thoand> | linuxstb: now the 100% progress bar is shown for 5 seconds, until the menu of loader 2 is shown again 22:20 < linuxstb> In which case, yes I did see your last message. 22:20 < BleuLlama> imphasing: to keep compiler warnings down, i'm guessing 22:20 < imphasing> ah 22:20 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:20 < BleuLlama> otherwise you get "parameter argc is never used in function osd_init" etc. 22:21 < courtc> -Wall -W ;) 22:21 < thoand> linuxstb: after I added the two lines 22:21 < courtc> (void)argc; 22:21 < BleuLlama> i usually accomplish the same thing like: argc=argc; just to shut up the compiler 22:21 < justinsand> uhh 22:21 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:21 < linuxstb> thoand: ipodloader2 works perfectly for me. 22:21 < BleuLlama> but yeah, (void)argc; works too 22:21 < imphasing> BleuLlama: Ah..hehe. 22:21 < justinsand> I keep getting this damn black screen after ipodlinux has loaded 22:21 < justinsand> and when i move the click wheel i dont hear any clicking 22:22 < BleuLlama> your pixels are too saturated. dip the ipod in bleach. 22:22 * justinsand does bleullamas Idea 22:22 < justinsand> FUCK 22:22 < justinsand> NOW THE IPOD WONT RESTART LOL 22:22 < justinsand> hhaahaahaha 22:22 < thoand> linuxstb: with rockbox too? 22:22 < BleuLlama> worked for me. 22:22 < _asraniel> http://www.fryx.ch/Asraniel/files/hackem.tar.gz 22:22 < _asraniel> if someone wants to play around with it 22:22 < _asraniel> its a roguelike for pz2 22:22 < thoand> hm, so my rockbox install could be wrong 22:22 < _asraniel> in a very early stage 22:22 < imphasing> BleuLlama: BTW, I like the little flashing pixel at the bottom when you're in menu mode..good diea 22:23 < imphasing> :) 22:23 < linuxstb> thoand: That's what I mean - it loads Rockbox perfectly. 22:23 < imphasing> s/diea/idea/ 22:23 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:23 < BleuLlama> imphasing: :) 22:23 < BleuLlama> it was the easiest way to indicate a menu mod 22:23 < JonasNZ> there is a problem for me with the ipodloader2... 22:23 < BleuLlama> i might change it still to a "red" menu, a "green" menu, stc. 22:23 < BleuLlama> etc* 22:23 < JonasNZ> it wont accept input unless i give it something during the loading of the loader 22:23 < fiftyfour123> is it possible to install rockbox on an HFS formatted 5g ipod? 22:24 < imphasing> BleuLlama: Yeah, you could probably figure out a way to use most of the keys a normal keyboard would have.. 22:24 < BleuLlama> like red would be for damaging things - reset, exit, green for alternate inputs - coin, start, etc. 22:24 < slasherx> im trying to install ipodloader2...when i try to run this command i get an error: 22:24 < slasherx> ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 firmware_backup.bin 22:24 < BleuLlama> the challenging part is making the buttons make sense. "play" -> "start" is obvious, etc. 22:24 < thoand> linuxstb: could you tell me how you have installed it? (i just copyed the .rockbox dir onto my fat partition and the rockbox.ipod and the bootloader-video.bin which I think is not needed) 22:25 < fiftyfour123> is it possible to install rockbox on a macpod 5g? 22:25 < justinsand> yea 22:25 < Shadowarrior13> Yeah. 22:25 < justinsand> what i did 22:25 < justinsand> was put my mouse 22:25 < justinsand> and put it into the toiled 22:25 < justinsand> toilet 22:25 < justinsand> and my ipod 22:25 < imphasing> BleuLlama: Yeah, and you'd need a good way to switch between modes.. 22:25 < justinsand> then i took my computer in ther 22:25 < Shadowarrior13> Otaaaay... 22:25 < BleuLlama> hold switch would still work 22:25 < justinsand> and 22:25 < justinsand> lol 22:25 < imphasing> Just flip it multiple times? 22:26 < BleuLlama> flip for green menu, flip again for red menu, etc. 22:26 < BleuLlama> yeah 22:26 < linuxstb> thoand: I always type "unzip -d rockbox.zip /mnt/ipod/" But just copying .rockbox and rockbox.ipod should work fine as well. You could try deleting them and trying again. 22:26 < BleuLlama> it's not great, but when your interface is 5 buttons and a switch, you do what you can 22:26 < Shadowarrior13> Yeah, as long as the files are there/ 22:26 < imphasing> hehe 22:26 < linuxstb> fiftyfour123: Ask in #rockbox (and wait more than 30 seconds for an answer...) 22:26 < fiftyfour123> ok' 22:26 < thoand> linuxstb: is /mnt/ipod your windows or linux partition? 22:26 < linuxstb> The windows partition. 22:26 < thoand> hm, k 22:27 < thoand> so I'll retry 22:27 < thoand> thank you 22:27 < BleuLlama> ooh. i should try setting "play_sound" to 0, and see if we get faster emulation 22:27 < fiftyfour123> is HFS support in the ipod loader almost done? 22:27 < imphasing> BleuLlama: Oooh.. 22:27 < imphasing> hehe 22:28 < BleuLlama> oh 22:28 < BleuLlama> play_sound = 0; 22:28 < BleuLlama> nevermind 22:28 < slasherx> if i format my ipod with my linux box and install everything can i still use it on my windows? 22:28 < BleuLlama> i gotta take care of some stuff. back later. 22:29 < imphasing> ah 22:29 < imphasing> alright 22:29 < imphasing> ciao 22:29 < erus`> what are those 3 dots at the start all about? 22:30 < josh_> erus`: [Loading] . . . 22:30 < thoand> linuxstb: now it works, thank you! 22:31 < linuxstb> Any idea what the problem was? 22:31 < courtc> elipsis 22:31 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:31 < thoand> linuxstb: I'll look what he has extracted soon, but first I install an unpatched loader 2 22:31 < imphasing> elipse's always cause problems. 22:31 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 22:35 < courtc> imphasing: elipses* 22:35 < thoand> linuxstb: diff sais the old rockbox.ipod files is different from the working, but not what (i think that was the problem) 22:35 < imphasing> courtc: Ah, right. 22:35 -!- fiftyfour123 [n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 < fiftyfour123> is there a tutorial anywhere for how to compile SDL_image? 22:36 < courtc> uhh.. make? 22:37 < courtc> ./configure --help? 22:37 -!- Una^ [n=Una@80-46-78-232.static.dsl.as9105.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:37 < fiftyfour123> ? 22:37 < courtc> less README? 22:37 < fiftyfour123> hold on 22:37 < imphasing> aegray: Does the video player use microwindows at all? 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