--- Log opened Sat Feb 18 00:00:02 2006 00:04 -!- Ct-R [i=tom@cpc3-asht2-6-0-cust77.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 00:07 < aegray> rmh3093: pong - i'm leaving but bbl 00:07 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:08 -!- slackflux [n=slackflu@adsl-68-77-152-118.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:08 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has joined #ipodlinux 00:08 < slackflux> :-/, abs no go on the 5g? 00:09 < Shadowarrior13> abs? 00:10 < slackflux> absolutely? 00:10 < Shadowarrior13> Oh, heh. 00:10 < Shadowarrior13> Well, if you feel like partitioning and risking it, go right ahead. 00:10 < Shadowarrior13> But no. 00:10 < slackflux> k, i DID try it, and didn't work, but i was able to fix after lil playing 'round 00:10 < slackflux> hmm k 00:11 < slackflux> that's cuz of the lack of documentation on the vid/screen...., right? 00:11 < Shadowarrior13> Yeah. 00:11 < slackflux> bummer, kk well thanx for the info 00:11 < Shadowarrior13> Though the guys over at rockbox helped tremendously and are getting 54fps right now. 00:11 < Shadowarrior13> No problem. 00:11 < slackflux> really? sweet 00:11 < slackflux> 54fps ain't bad 00:11 < slackflux> heh 00:11 < Shadowarrior13> It's hella good :P 00:12 < drg9onzo> mmm, doesn 00:12 < slackflux> k great, thanx 00:12 < drg9onzo> err, doesn't seem to work for me, has anyone got podzilla2 working on the 2gen mini 00:12 -!- slackflux [n=slackflu@adsl-68-77-152-118.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 00:20 -!- drg9onzo [n=asciiwhi@203-217-90-187.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 00:21 < rmh3093> the 5g can play mp3 or wav in the console 00:22 < aegray> yes? 00:22 < rmh3093> whats up with your fb.c changes, what do they do 00:23 < aegray> when? 00:23 < rmh3093> yesterdays changes from the rockbox people 00:23 < aegray> make it go faster 00:24 < rmh3093> does the scroll wheel work in sash now? 00:24 < aegray> i dunno 00:24 < rmh3093> i shall try that out in a little bit then 00:24 < Shadowarrior13> <3 rockbox 00:30 < BHSPitLappy> Shadowarrior13: share the love somewhere else ;) 00:31 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:31 < Shadowarrior13> lol 00:32 < BHSPitLappy> Shadowarrior13: and you should have told him that we have one working app on the 5G at least 00:32 < BHSPitLappy> two, if you count hd-demo 00:33 < Shadowarrior13> Probably. 00:33 < Cillian> 3 00:33 < Cillian> i wrote a hello-world app which works 00:33 < Cillian> :-P 00:34 < rmh3093> the shell works, mp3 player works, wav player works 00:34 < BHSPitLappy> iDoom works 00:35 < BHSPitLappy> hd-demo works 00:35 < rmh3093> ?idoom works on the 5g? 00:37 < aegray> no 00:37 -!- drg9onzo [n=asciiwhi@203-217-90-187.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:41 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bbx97.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:43 -!- nanoesp [n=nanoesp@83.165.33.214] has joined #iPodLinux 00:43 < BHSPitLappy> it works, but the bar is displayed at the top instead of the bottom 00:44 < BHSPitLappy> (dunno if he solved that yet) 00:45 < rmh3093> how to you launch it 00:46 < drg9onzo> ok to elaborate a little more, I have the Second Gen Mini 2gig. I've installed the latest Kernel/podzilla and it works fine. I would ideally like to play my classical FLac collection on my ipod. I just attempted to get podzilla2 working on it so i could install MPD, but i got alot of errors with the start file on boot saying stuff like files or command not found, then errors with loading loader and it just goes to a prompt. 00:47 < BHSPitLappy> rmh3093: rc I guess 00:47 < drg9onzo> I understand that its not offically supported the mini, i've been doing some googleing but i can't seem to find anything on podzilla2 working or not working with the 2gen mini. 00:47 < BHSPitLappy> should work 00:48 < drg9onzo> BHSPitLappy was that in regards to me?] 00:48 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 00:48 < BHSPitLappy> on that matter, why can't you use mpd with pz0? 00:49 < drg9onzo> i dunno, i was under the impression that mpd was pz2 only. 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> and, are you experienced at all with linux (commands)? 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> nope 00:49 < drg9onzo> yes 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> RTW 00:49 < BHSPitLappy> then figuring out the problem with your startfile commands shouldn't be too big of a deal 00:49 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 00:50 < drg9onzo> ok ill do that thanks 00:50 * BHSPitLappy never has to use start files ;) 00:51 < ai2097> courtc: Ping. 00:51 < Shadowarrior13> Pong! 00:56 < rmh3093> i think an updated fs needs to be made and posted on sourceforge 00:57 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host214-16.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 < josh_> rmh3093: talk to courtc 00:58 < drg9onzo> ok, do the nighty builds use pz0 or pz2? 00:58 < drg9onzo> nevermind 00:59 < BHSPitLappy> rmh3093: indeed, courtc holds a sacred new userland he just put together. 01:02 -!- EvilDude [n=prashant@CPE-60-225-204-122.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 01:03 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h146n7c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:03 < rmh3093> that would be awsome if that could be passed this way 01:03 < rmh3093> ;) 01:04 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.winterrowd.com/maze.htm 01:11 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 < syamajala> got an imac 01:18 < syamajala> g5 01:18 < syamajala> 20in. 01:18 < syamajala> with isight 01:18 < syamajala> it isn't as fast as i thought it would be... 01:19 < syamajala> gonna upgrade the ram to 1.5gb though 01:20 < courtc> rmh3093: http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/ipod_fs_150206.tar.gz 01:21 < ai2097> courtc: Looks like log.c never allocates memory for warningBuffer. 01:21 < courtc> ok... 01:22 < ai2097> I honestly do not know how on Earth it managed to get anything out to file. 01:23 < ai2097> http://pastebin.com/560502 01:23 < rmh3093> courtc: thanks! 01:23 < courtc> rmh3093: np. 01:25 -!- drg9onzo [n=asciiwhi@203-217-90-187.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 01:26 < courtc> ai2097: can you start sending those to my email? 01:26 < courtc> courtc@ipodlinux.org 01:28 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:29 < ai2097> courtc: Will do. 01:29 < courtc> Thanks, it's just a lot easier to have everything in one place. 01:32 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:33 < ai2097> You could always give me a branch :p. 01:33 < jonrelay> How do I fix 'initializer element is not constant'? 01:34 < josh_> jonrelay: what's the line of code? 01:34 < jonrelay> b_command bf_Commands[] = { bf_print, bf_put, bf_input, {0,0,0,0,0,0} }; 01:34 < jonrelay> bf_print, etc. are structs 01:34 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:34 < josh_> are bf_print, etc. defined earlier on? 01:34 < jonrelay> Yes 01:35 < josh_> hrm 01:35 < josh_> you might not be able to do that 01:35 < josh_> idk 01:35 < josh_> try putting the definitions of bf_print etc. in there 01:35 < josh_> instead of just "bf_print" 01:35 < ai2097> Oh, I ran into those back when writing a state machine... can't quite remember what the problem was... 01:36 < jonrelay> Ooh, that worked. 01:37 < ai2097> Yes, but inlining everything is ugly, and isn't reusable. 01:38 < iPL-SVN> davidc * tools/armemu/compile_sfr.py[+]: Added beginnings of SFR compiler - parser works, code gen not yet started (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/891) 01:38 < imphasing> davidc__: ! 01:39 < davidc__> imphasing: what? 01:39 < imphasing> Cool commit. 01:39 < davidc__> oh yea - that gets echoed here 01:39 < davidc__> its for josh's armemu 01:39 < imphasing> yeah 01:39 < imphasing> why a python file? 01:39 < imphasing> =-/ 01:39 < davidc__> why not¿ 01:39 < davidc__> er, ? 01:39 < imphasing> haha.. 01:40 < imphasing> Er..because it's sort of slow? 01:40 < imphasing> I'm not really sure what an SFR compiler is though, so it could be appropriate 01:40 < josh_> imphasing: you give it a list of MMIO registers and it outputs C code to handle reading and writing them 01:40 < imphasing> oooh.. 01:40 < imphasing> cool 01:41 < imphasing> Wouldn't it be easier to just write that by hand, than to write something to generate it? 01:41 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 -!- shadowarts [n=Andrew@ppp-70-236-188-24.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 < josh_> imphasing: the iPod has TONS of sfrs 01:42 < davidc__> imphasing: it takes SFR 6000:C000 x DEFAULT 4 1 [0] and turns it into about 20 lines ;) 01:42 < shadowarts> hello 01:42 < davidc__> shadowarts: hi 01:42 < imphasing> davidc__: Dayum.. 01:43 < shadowarts> does ipod linux work on video ipods? 01:43 < imphasing> shadowarts: hi 01:43 < imphasing> define "work" 01:43 < josh_> shadowarts: not unless you know what you're doing 01:43 < davidc__> shadowarts: its still in the developer stage 01:43 < shadowarts> well now i see that in the topic... 01:43 < ai2097> jonrelay: Yeah. If you want constant initialization data, you'll probably need to use a macro. I solved the issue by using pointer fields and "&", since it was more appropriate for my application anyway. 01:44 < jonrelay> Yeah, I was thinking macros. 01:45 < shadowarts> well im a pretty expeirienced in linux, do you have a svn repo or something? 01:45 < imphasing> josh_: pz2 rev 891 seems to be broken.. 01:45 < courtc> ai2097: pm me 'htpasswd -nm ai2097' output 01:46 < josh_> imphasing: define "broken" 01:46 * imphasing goes to .flood 01:53 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:55 < courtc> ai2097! 01:55 * courtc impatient 01:55 < ai2097> courtc: Sorry; went AFK. 01:56 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 01:57 < courtc> ai2097: pm me 'htpasswd -nm ai2097' output if you would. 02:07 < imphasing> Time to test out my new SDL build, with (hopefully) the new lcd driver.. 02:09 < josh_> imphasing: you added it? 02:09 < rmh3093> shadowarts: look on the wiki under documentation for the 5g status 02:09 < imphasing> josh_: I think so.. 02:09 < josh_> cool 02:09 < josh_> did you modify iPod_UpdateRects to call it? 02:09 < shadowarts> rmh3093, ok 02:10 < imphasing> I have it named the same way as the old function 02:10 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 02:10 < imphasing> I thought there might be external files that could call those functions, and would get thrown if the name wasn't there 02:11 < imphasing> Beautiful.. 02:11 < imphasing> I love a frozen screen. 02:12 < josh_> heh 02:12 < josh_> did it at least display anything? 02:12 < imphasing> er.. 02:12 < imphasing> no 02:12 < josh_> ah. 02:12 < josh_> want to pastebin you7r code>? 02:12 < josh_> er. 02:12 < josh_> want to pastebin your code? 02:12 < imphasing> the only function that should be different is M_update_display, and friends, right? 02:12 < syamajala> i never installed the latest ipod update... 02:13 < syamajala> didn't even know it was there until i plugged my ipod in a few minutes ago 02:13 < imphasing> http://pastebin.com/560553 #line 574 and down is me 02:13 < imphasing> I probably have it all muddled.. 02:15 < imphasing> Heh..I don't have lcd_bcm_finishup in there... 02:15 -!- F-F_|hmf| [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:15 < josh_> ah. 02:15 < josh_> that'd do it. 02:15 < imphasing> I wonder why that didn't cuase an error.. 02:15 < josh_> you also need to add some code around line 293 02:15 < josh_> to handle the 5g 02:16 < imphasing> ah 02:16 < josh_> also, it looks like you modified the M_update_display function 02:16 < josh_> do you know what the M_ stands for? 02:16 < imphasing> Er.. 02:16 < imphasing> No. 02:16 < josh_> Monochrome. 02:16 < imphasing> But it looked similar to my function 02:16 < imphasing> hahahaha 02:16 < imphasing> I didn't really update anything then 02:16 < josh_> You were looking for C_update_display. 02:16 < imphasing> ah 02:16 < imphasing> 0x60000 is 5G? 02:17 < josh_> Yep, you basically did it all wrong. 02:17 < josh_> Nope, 0xBxxxx 02:17 < josh_> is 5g 02:17 < imphasing> ah 02:17 < imphasing> I just need to set lcd_type = 1 for 0xB I guess.. 02:18 < imphasing> and set the width/height 02:18 < josh_> um... no. 02:18 < imphasing> and the masks.. 02:21 < imphasing> type 0 would be greyscale and 1 would be color, I would think 02:21 < josh_> um... no. 02:22 < josh_> type 0 is the LCD in a Photo, type 1 is in a Color/Nano 02:22 < imphasing> ooh.. 02:23 < imphasing> 0xc == photo? 02:23 < josh_> no. 02:24 < BleuLlama> oh. something interesting you all might want to know 02:24 < BleuLlama> i just found this out from my Belkin friend 02:26 * rmh3093 is all ears 02:27 < Shadowarrior13> ...out with it! 02:27 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host214-16.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has quit ["Client exiting"] 02:29 < BleuLlama> I LIKE CHEESE. 02:29 < BleuLlama> that is all. 02:29 < imphasing> oh my 02:29 < Shadowarrior13> That's...downright shocking! 02:29 < imphasing> You have greatly accelerated by development. 02:29 < BleuLlama> he's right 02:29 < imphasing> I will incorporate these changes into my code immediately! 02:30 < imphasing> josh_: I thought there was already a partial SDL driver for the 5G.. 02:30 < imphasing> It was just slow 02:30 < josh_> nope 02:31 < imphasing> gyar. 02:31 < imphasing> I didn't want to write a whole driver.. 02:31 < imphasing> :) 02:33 < imphasing> Looks like I can reuse most of the functions like, C_lcd_cmd_data, and such 02:33 < josh_> nope 02:35 < imphasing> Well, I'd have to add support for a 3rd type in 02:37 -!- nanoesp [n=nanoesp@83.165.33.214] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:37 < imphasing> How come for the photo, it never sends the high data? (in C_lcd_send_hi) 02:40 -!- tarpman is now known as tarpman`dinner 02:43 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:47 -!- wizatcomputer [i=wizatcom@pool-71-161-48-137.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:47 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 02:48 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:49 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:52 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:55 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 -!- shadowarts [n=Andrew@ppp-70-236-188-24.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 02:56 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:57 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 03:01 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:01 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:03 < rmh3093> is there something wrong with the toolchain installer 03:03 < rmh3093> they wont run for me before 03:03 < rmh3093> didnt have this problem before 03:07 < courtc> What's the error/ 03:07 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 03:07 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:08 -!- tarpman`dinner is now known as tarpman 03:13 -!- joecool|laptop [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 03:13 < rmh3093> tail: cannot open `+46' for reading: No such file or directory 03:13 < rmh3093> bunzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. 03:14 < courtc> open the file in an editor.. 03:15 < rmh3093> i cant 03:15 < courtc> go down to line 42; change '+${SKIP}' to '-n +{SKIP}' 03:15 < courtc> huh? 03:15 < rmh3093> that dosent fix the problem 03:15 < rmh3093> that just makes the frist error go away 03:16 < courtc> ...? 03:16 < rmh3093> yeah its weird 03:17 < courtc> or: yeah I don't believe you. 03:18 < rmh3093> bunzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. 03:18 < rmh3093> thats what i get when i fix the tail line 03:24 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-3-91.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:26 -!- DivineEntity [n=divine_e@d150-235-200.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:26 < DivineEntity> nerds 03:27 < imphasing> dorks? 03:27 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-86-31-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:27 < imphasing> Stereotypical fuckwads? 03:27 < Shadowarrior13> 0_o 03:27 < DivineEntity> indeed :) 03:27 < imphasing> :) 03:27 < Shadowarrior13> HEh 03:28 < Shadowarrior13> You're the one who has nothing better to do than come on to a linux chatroom and call us nerds XD 03:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:28 -!- Hostile [n=lanteau@cblmdm72-240-80-173.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:28 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:31 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:31 < Hostile> I had a 3g ipod and remember mp3s skipping in linux because of processor issues, and I was wondering if you think the 5g has enough horsepower to in the future decode at full speed? 03:31 < imphasing> rockbox decodes very nicely realtime, with my 5G 03:31 < imphasing> So I would assume so 03:32 < Hostile> rockbox? 03:32 < imphasing> rockbox. 03:32 < Shadowarrior13> Check out #rockbox 03:32 < BHSPitLappy> Hostile: see rockbox.org and #rockbox 03:32 < Shadowarrior13> And ask for yourself :P 03:33 < courtc> my nano decodes nicely realtime in linux. 03:33 < Hostile> courtc: nano, and 5g use same portalplayer chip, am I correct? 03:33 < Shadowarrior13> How is development coming along for the broadcom chip, anyways? 03:33 < imphasing> courtc: nifty 03:33 < imphasing> it worked fine with my 3H too 03:33 < imphasing> er.. 03:33 < imphasing> 3G 03:34 < Hostile> Well I use 192 VBR mp3s, it couldnt decode in real time 03:34 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:34 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:35 < Shadowarrior13> ANyone? 03:35 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:37 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:37 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:37 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 03:39 < Hostile> imphasing: hmm rockbox seems very intresting 03:40 -!- imphasin1 [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:42 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:43 < Hostile> imphasing: so rockbox is a whole new firmware right? 03:43 < Shadowarrior13> Yeah. 03:43 -!- imphasin1 is now known as imphasing_ 03:43 < imphasing_> yeah 03:43 < imphasing_> it's for multiple platforms 03:43 < imphasing_> archos players, ipods, etc. 03:44 < Hostile> imphasing: has a GUI and all? 03:44 < imphasing_> yeah 03:44 < courtc> read the website. 03:45 < Hostile> Hmm, I'm gonna reboot to Windows since these instructions are for windows, and I wanted to try out my new Logitech MX518 in Call of Duty 2 03:46 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 03:46 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has joined #ipodlinux 03:46 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/ttk/schemes/beos.cs[+]: BeOS color scheme. I couldn't do diagonal gradients, but it's close enough. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/892) 03:47 < imphasing_> ! 03:47 < imphasing_> Cooool.. 03:47 < imphasing_> :) 03:47 < BleuLlama> the appearance imagery is next. 03:47 < BleuLlama> ;) 03:48 < Hostile> brb 03:48 -!- Hostile [n=lanteau@cblmdm72-240-80-173.buckeyecom.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:48 < imphasing_> cool. 03:48 < imphasing_> :) 03:49 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:49 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:49 < imphasing_> Heh..I thought I'd lost one of my ipod headphone pads 03:49 < imphasing_> and I found it in my hair 03:49 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-3-91.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:49 < imphasing_> That's one of the downsides of having bushy hair.. 03:50 < Shadowarrior13> XD 03:50 < Shadowarrior13> I know a dude with busy hair and an iPod. 03:50 < Shadowarrior13> He's really lazy. 03:50 < imphasing_> that's not me.. 03:50 < Shadowarrior13> He never works, just sits. 03:50 < imphasing_> well.. 03:50 < imphasing_> I work while I sit. 03:50 < Shadowarrior13> Gets good grades too. 03:50 < Shadowarrior13> I hate him. 03:51 < imphasing_> That might be be. 03:51 < Shadowarrior13> lol 03:51 < courtc> stfu 03:51 < courtc> BleuLlama: looks nice. 03:51 < BleuLlama> yeah. i forgot how much i like that yellow 03:53 < ballistix> dammit: core/built-in.o(.text+0x52db): more undefined references to `ttk_header_set_text_position' follow 03:53 < courtc> update ttk. 03:54 < BleuLlama> cd ttk ; make distclean ; svn up ; make 03:54 < ballistix> lol i did that yesterday 03:54 < ballistix> how often do i have to update ttk? very often? 03:54 < courtc> I might have to cook up something red soon, but not red.cs red, think more lamborghini 03:54 < BleuLlama> i added that stuff into ttk earlier today 03:55 < BleuLlama> it's not like it's hard to do. 03:55 < ballistix> oh ok 03:55 < ballistix> yeah i know 03:55 < BleuLlama> courtc: understood. like a candy-apple or firetruck red. 03:55 < ballistix> just, i wasnt sure whether i was meant to do that 03:55 < BleuLlama> that'll be nice 03:55 < courtc> BleuLlama: yea. 03:55 < ballistix> courtc: how will that be accomplished? sounds somewhat difficult, graphically 03:55 -!- imphasing_ [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["arg...irssi"] 03:56 < BleuLlama> bg = red 03:56 < BleuLlama> ;) 03:56 < courtc> ;D 03:56 < ballistix> lol but that would look somewhat crap 03:56 < ballistix> lambourghini, fire truck etc all have a nice glow to them 03:56 -!- imphasin1 [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:56 < BleuLlama> nah. get someone like courtc behind it, and it'll look nice 03:56 < ballistix> almost what a reflection 03:56 < ballistix> ah 03:56 -!- imphasin1 is now known as imphasing_ 03:56 -!- imphasing_ is now known as imphasing__ 03:56 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=Shadowar@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["I R TEH LEET MAGICKIAN"] 03:56 < BleuLlama> ballistix: in case you haven't noticed, colors on the ipod screen tend to glow, due to the backlight 03:57 < ballistix> ...yeah... but not like the reflection off a ferrari, you know what i mean? 03:57 < imphasing__> I'm having a dandy old time figuring out my irssi.. 03:57 < courtc> Trust me. Have I let you down in the 'shiny things' department yet? 03:57 < ballistix> haha not yet 03:57 * BleuLlama has faith and confidence in courtc 03:57 < BleuLlama> i know you can do it, courtc. :D 03:57 < BleuLlama> and it won't look 'somewhat crap' 03:57 * imphasing__ is rooting for courtc 03:58 < courtc> heh, ... but first I need to write this memstream terminal :p 04:00 < courtc> perhaps a memstream was a bad idea. 04:00 * courtc rewrites it into a ring buffer 04:00 < BleuLlama> what is a "memstream"? 04:01 < imphasing__> I was jsut going to pretend I knew what it was. 04:01 < imphasing__> But I can piggyback on BleuLlama's question. 04:01 < BleuLlama> i never do such a thing 04:01 < imphasing__> Yes, what is it? 04:01 < courtc> http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/String-Streams.html 04:01 < BleuLlama> i'd rather i look a little dumb for a moment, than to feel dumb for a very long time 04:01 < imphasing__> pretend I knew what it was == "not comment" 04:01 < BleuLlama> oh, ok. just reading mem as a FILE. 04:01 < courtc> can be done with a tmpfile in non-gnu environments 04:02 < courtc> yep 04:02 < BleuLlama> cool 04:03 < imphasing__> BleuLlama: I ask too many questions anyway, so sometimes it's a good idea for me to hush up and wait for someone else to ask one. 04:03 < ballistix> lol 04:03 < courtc> Sometimes it's hard to tell what's a good question. 04:03 < imphasing__> that too. 04:04 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:05 -!- Fruitwoot [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 04:15 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-df6e25b94686ce22] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774 04:23 < BHSPitLappy> ^ holy @#$%! 04:23 < imphasing__> hotdamn 04:25 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 04:26 -!- Hostile [n=lanteau@cblmdm72-240-80-173.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:26 < Hostile> imphasing: I'm gonna be honest, Rockbox is f'in awesome 04:26 < imphasing__> Yeah, it's nice. 04:27 < imphasing__> But keep in mind, you haven't seen hotdog in iPL yet. 04:27 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: makes you think twice about the rumored touch-screen iPod, doesn't it :P 04:27 < Hostile> If they support ItunesDB sometime, it'll be my main firmware 04:27 < imphasing__> BHSPitLappy: I wouldn't buy one.. 04:27 < imphasing__> for a while at least 04:27 < imphasing__> fingerprints everywhere.. 04:27 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: you saw my video link though, right? 04:27 < imphasing__> yeah 04:27 < imphasing__> that was kickass 04:27 < BHSPitLappy> indeed 04:28 < BHSPitLappy> that's going on my nano 04:28 < imphasing__> they're are "going" to have virtual knobs you grab with two fingers. 04:28 < imphasing__> :D 04:28 < Hostile> imphasing: in Rockbox how do i get back to the filebrowser? 04:28 < imphasing__> rewind? 04:29 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:30 < courtc> #rockbox 04:34 < ballistix> haha yeah, #rockbox 04:44 -!- Raoul [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-175-101.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:44 -!- Blipus [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-175-101.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:44 -!- Raoul [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-175-101.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 04:45 < ballistix> fuck rockbox 04:51 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@208-58-242-100.s100.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:59 -!- ballistix was kicked from #ipodlinux by BleuLlama [no, fuck you] 04:59 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-86-31-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:00 < ballistix> hey thanks a lot buddy 05:00 < BleuLlama> dude. if it wasn't for them, we'd still be doing 1fps on 5g. 05:01 < ballistix> if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't have much either 05:01 < ballistix> well not really me 05:01 < ballistix> more like you devs 05:01 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["*poof*"] 05:02 < ballistix> since "us" is pretty broad, and i still haven't contributed anything to the project of any real value 05:04 < ballistix> the worst part of writing something (program) is when you start 05:04 < ballistix> like, i still have trouble getting started 05:04 < courtc> bullshit. The worst part is working through a major change that you know won't work for a long ass time. 05:04 < BleuLlama> agreed, courtc 05:05 < ballistix> care to give me any suggestions as to where to start with my crappy little hangman game? 05:05 < ballistix> see im not skilled enough to have encountered that situation 05:06 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman_@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:06 * courtc in the middle of a > 1250 line program. The only thing it does from a interaction standpoint is draw a white box. 05:07 < ballistix> hmmm. 05:08 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:08 -!- Vanquisher1 is now known as Vanquisher 05:08 < BleuLlama> i find that second to the situation courtc described above is coming up with a name for what i'm working on. 05:09 < BleuLlama> whether it be the project name, or the filename... 05:09 < BleuLlama> which isn't that big a deal with svn, but it's a pain for CVS 05:09 < BleuLlama> you *really* want to get filenames right the first time 05:09 < courtc> agreed. 05:10 < courtc> Even in svn, if you change the name you'll find yourself looking for functions/variables that don't exist for a while. 05:11 < BleuLlama> yeah 05:11 < ballistix> how do i call text input? 05:11 < BleuLlama> i've found that with cvs, the easiest way to move or rename files is to just go to the actual repository, and muck with the file/directory names 05:14 < courtc> or wipe the repos and start over ;) 05:14 -!- wizisi2k [n=irc@pool-141-153-181-90.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:15 < ballistix> say a file has words in it, and between each word there is a new line, how would i go about reading one of those random words? 05:15 < ballistix> or a random word? 05:15 < courtc> fgets 05:15 < ballistix> yeah... 05:15 < BleuLlama> yeah. unfortunately, wiping the repo is almost the best solution with cvs, yeah 05:16 < ballistix> i knew i needed fopen, but i didn't know about fget... 05:16 < ballistix> ill read up about it 05:16 < ballistix> btw does anyone know where the hell evildude is? 05:17 < ai2097> Australia? :p 05:17 < courtc> fopen, fseek(fp, 0, SEEK_END); len = ftell(fp); fseek(fp, rand() % len, SEEK_SET); fgets; fgets 05:18 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:18 -!- imphasing__ [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:20 -!- redness [n=red@c220-239-78-210.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:20 < ballistix> whoa 05:20 < ballistix> uh 05:20 < ballistix> lol is that just the stuff that im going to need to learn? 05:20 < redness> if I use the ipod software update software, will i have to redo the dual boot stuff? 05:21 < courtc> ballistix: you asked how... 05:21 < courtc> redness: yes 05:21 < redness> courtc: thought as much 05:21 < redness> courtc: thanks, the linux partition won be killed though will it? 05:21 < ballistix> yeah thanks courtc 05:22 < courtc> shouldn't, depends on where you put it. 05:22 < courtc> and your ipod gen. 05:22 < redness> 3rd gen, and i followed the instructions on the site 05:23 < courtc> you should be fine then. 05:23 < redness> excellent thanks 05:24 < courtc> np 05:52 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/armemu/execute.c: Don't futz up descending block transfers. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/893) 05:53 < do_me_nice> ballistix, fgets is covered in under 70 pages in "C for dummies" 05:55 < courtc> 70 pages? geez 05:55 < ai2097> Dummies shouldn't use C. 05:55 < do_me_nice> along with printf, scanf... really basic stuff 05:59 < courtc> what about memfrob? 05:59 < courtc> strfry? 05:59 < courtc> you know, the really essential functions. 05:59 < do_me_nice> no and no... ill let you know when i reach that... 06:00 < courtc> yea, you do that. 06:00 < courtc> in the meantime, I'll stick to manpages. 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> woah 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> how long ago was commit 800? 06:02 < courtc> Jan 29th 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> wow, this project's just plain crazy when it comes to do doing amazing work non-stop 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> here's to all the awesome devs! :D 06:05 < BHSPitLappy> aegray! BleuLlama! coob! courtc! davidc__! jonrelay! josh_! slowcoder! and anyone else I'm forgetting, you guys all rock! :D 06:06 < courtc> *gasp* 06:06 < josh_> thanks 06:06 < davidc__> haha - today was my first commit in probably several years :P 06:06 < josh_> you forgot leachbj. booooo. 06:06 < courtc> VVVVVVV 06:06 < davidc__> but I've contributed in other ways ;) 06:06 < courtc> --> leachbj <--- 06:06 < BHSPitLappy> he's not in here right now... 06:06 < courtc> ^^^^^^^ 06:07 < BHSPitLappy> I know he's iGod, but I was talking to the people that could hear me :/ 06:07 < jonrelay> BHS: Thanks 06:07 < BHSPitLappy> leachbj: if you ever read this obscure log, you're truly amazing! 06:08 < BHSPitLappy> iPod owners are lucky to have every one of ya'! 06:08 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: He's only amazing if h reads this obscure log? 06:08 < BHSPitLappy> ai2097: :( 06:08 < jonrelay> BHS: Check it out: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=52833#52833 06:09 < do_me_nice> ... 06:09 < BleuLlama> are you using lex/yacc to parse lines? 06:09 < jonrelay> No. Doing it all myself. :p 06:09 < BHSPitLappy> sorry if I was being a random suck-up, but just seeing the last commit I started reflecting on everything that's been done while I've been here... and I'm truly happy to have been here to see it all happen 06:10 * courtc washes out his bleeding eyes. 06:11 < BHSPitLappy> haha 06:11 < courtc> God I hate basic 06:11 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: that's awesome! I can actually write something that'll run on the iPod! ;) 06:11 < ai2097> courtc: Basic? Better use acid. 06:11 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/ttk/schemes/beos.cs: Tweaks to make it look much better (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/894) 06:11 < courtc> ooh! 06:11 < BHSPitLappy> cool 06:11 < jonrelay> All it understands is variable names and constants right now, but once I get to actually evaluating expressions I might end up frustrated and wanting to use lex/yacc anyway. :p 06:12 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: plan on integrating on-the-fly interpretation into PodCode? ;) 06:12 < BHSPitLappy> hehehehe 06:12 < courtc> BleuLlama: I likey. 06:13 * BHSPitLappy svn ups 06:13 < BleuLlama> you're gonna like this even more... 06:14 -!- Milenko [n=Mr_Milen@24-50-193-44.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:14 < BleuLlama> ENJOY 06:14 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/core/ (header.c menu.c pz.h): BeOS appearance added! (be sure to use the BeOS color scheme with it. :D (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/895) 06:14 < BHSPitMonkey> ... is that an introduction to an oncoming commit? should I wait to build? 06:14 < BHSPitMonkey> heh, guess that answers my question 06:14 < iPL-SVN> Someone just broke the PZ2 build. 06:14 < BHSPitMonkey> ooohhh 06:14 < courtc> hah! 06:14 < jonrelay> haha 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 06:15 < BleuLlama> someone can suck my left nut, iPL-SVN 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> haha 06:16 < courtc> hah! awesome! 06:16 < BleuLlama> :D 06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> so will it not work? :/ 06:16 < courtc> iPL-SVN hates BleuLlama 06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm still at 894 06:17 < BleuLlama> it will work fine. 06:18 < BHSPitMonkey> mmk 06:18 < BHSPitMonkey> -apparently not- 06:18 < BHSPitMonkey> :/ 06:18 < BHSPitMonkey> cd #ipodlinux.flood 06:18 < BHSPitMonkey> hahaha 06:18 < BHSPitMonkey> wow, 06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> talk about mixing worlds. 06:20 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: I got pounded with errors in header.c 06:23 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/core/header.c: Tweaks to get a gradient color for the vectortext, if there is a gradient, rather than a solid color. Thanks josh, for the code. ;) (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/896) 06:24 < iPL-SVN> Someone just broke the PZ2 build. 06:24 < BHSPitMonkey> :/ 06:24 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: then you're doing something wrong 06:24 < BleuLlama> ;) 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> meet me in flood? 06:25 < BleuLlama> be sure to: cd ttk ; make distclean ; svn up ; make 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> d'oh 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> it was 'make install' i bet 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> I did everything else 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> that was it :/ 06:27 * BleuLlama tries it on his nano 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm not familiar with BeOS, but I like the stuff you did with justification. 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> is it supposed to be like a tab? 06:28 < BleuLlama> oops. forgot to opy over the .cs file 06:28 < BleuLlama> yeah. 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm 06:28 < BleuLlama> i also added battery update rate/disablability 06:28 < BleuLlama> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beos 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, that was a little while ago, remember 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> I got all excited and hugged you 06:29 < do_me_nice> void init_name() is the equivalent to int main() in a regular c program? 06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> woah! I turned off my load average...that's neat 06:30 < courtc> kindof, make sure you have PZ_MOD_INIT(init_name) 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> that battery looks spiffy on Grad decor 06:31 < courtc> init_whatever should register your module, ... look at some of the other modules for examples 06:31 < BleuLlama> oooh. this looks nice on the nano. :D 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: are you the only dev with a nano? 06:32 < BleuLlama> courtc has one too 06:32 < BleuLlama> not sure who else 06:32 < courtc> and aegray and leachbj 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> i see 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> I thought aegray didn't 06:32 < BleuLlama> courtc and I have 1gb nanos 06:33 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:33 < BHSPitMonkey> got protection? 06:34 -!- ryuhayabusa [n=Administ@ppp-70-252-50-44.dsl.amrltx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:34 < BHSPitMonkey> ryuhayabusa: is that Amarillo? 06:34 < ryuhayabusa> has anyone here thought about making a .sid player for podlinux? 06:34 < ryuhayabusa> yeah it is 06:34 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm, haven't seen that one before 06:34 < BleuLlama> ryuhayabusa: hyarion ported one 06:35 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:35 < ballistix> how do you call text input? 06:36 < BleuLlama> ballistix: there are examples in the code. i would have thought you would have found them by now. (you mean jonrelay's text input, right?) 06:36 < jonrelay> pz0 or pz2? 06:36 < ballistix> pz2, yeah i haven't really looked at the code 06:36 < ballistix> i was just wondering if theres a quick line to doing it 06:36 < ballistix> lol i've been doing chores 06:37 < BleuLlama> yeah, then there's plenty of sample code. there's even an example for using it. 06:37 < jonrelay> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/Text_Input#Development 06:37 < BHSPitMonkey> text input demo... 06:37 < jonrelay> If you call pz_start_input(), text input will start and you'll receive input events. 06:37 < ballistix> ok cool 06:37 -!- ryuhayabusa [n=Administ@ppp-70-252-50-44.dsl.amrltx.swbell.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:38 -!- Tonkajds [n=jesse@c-24-15-168-237.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 -!- Tonkajds [n=jesse@c-24-15-168-237.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:38 < jonrelay> If you want the text input fields though, you'll need to do a bunch of widget code. 06:39 < BHSPitMonkey> lol, where else would the text go? 06:39 < jonrelay> Wherever you want it. 06:40 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 06:40 < BHSPitMonkey> I can't really imagine a context where you'd be using text input without seeing what you're writing, though 06:40 < jonrelay> Yeah. 06:40 < ai2097> Password entry :p? 06:40 -!- Mr_Milenko [n=Mr_Milen@24-50-193-44.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:40 < ballistix> I don't REALLY need a text input field 06:41 < BHSPitMonkey> ai2097: you wouldn't have a field, still? 06:41 < ballistix> actually i sorta do 06:41 < BHSPitMonkey> jonrelay implented password entry 06:41 < ballistix> jonrelay, can i specify a specific tim? 06:41 -!- joecool|laptop is now known as joecool|sleep 06:42 < jonrelay> PodPaint doesn't use a text input field, but it does use the TIBuffer type from tiwidgets and display the text as you enter it. 06:42 < jonrelay> ballistix: jas 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, I considered that kind of thing for a second 06:42 < ballistix> cause i want a popup keyboard basically 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> but it disproved my point, so I kept it to myself :P 06:42 < ballistix> for a little hangman game im making 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: why should it matter which input method they use? 06:43 < ballistix> well 06:43 < ballistix> with a keyboard 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> do you plan on blacking out used letters? 06:43 < ballistix> it can take up half the screen 06:43 < ballistix> no not really 06:43 < ballistix> but thats a damn good idea 06:43 < ballistix> not exactly sure how that would be possible tho 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> IMO the user should use whichever input method they're most comfortable with 06:43 < ballistix> blacking out the keys on the ti keyboard would be like impossible 06:43 < ballistix> yeah 06:44 < ballistix> but with the keyboard i dont to write what letter they're inputting 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> it would require you to modify the original code 06:44 < ballistix> to clarify 06:44 < ballistix> like, with cursive 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> you could just display a little message somewhere on the screen that says "you've already used that letter!" for just a second 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> when they choose it 06:44 < ballistix> i would a field for showing them which letter 06:44 < ballistix> just so its the right one 06:45 < ballistix> yeah 06:45 < ballistix> thats a good idea 06:45 < ballistix> because its simple yet effective 06:45 < BHSPitMonkey> indeed 06:45 < ballistix> see im not so good at the idea thing 06:45 < jonrelay> OK, if you want to use a specific input method, call ti_select(int) with the ID number of the input method. 06:45 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: I'm good at thinking up implementations, but I don't know how to code them yet 06:45 < ballistix> ok 06:45 < ballistix> haha yeah 06:45 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: we should be a team! 06:45 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 06:45 < jonrelay> But yeah, it might not be a good idea to change it unexpectedly. 06:46 < ballistix> BHSPitMonkey: or not... 06:46 < ballistix> haha 06:46 < BHSPitMonkey> :( 06:46 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 06:46 < ballistix> what do you mean unexpectedly? 06:46 < BHSPitMonkey> without the user being able to consent. 06:47 < BHSPitMonkey> "wtf... I use keypad! what's this game trying to pull?" 06:47 < ai2097> Example: "WTF? My input method is now Morse Code? I don't -know- Morse Code?" 06:47 < ballistix> i will call it a "feature" of the game 06:47 < BHSPitMonkey> ai2097: nice contribution. 06:47 < ballistix> hell, bill gates can get away with it with windows errors 06:47 < ballistix> i can get away with it in a crappy hangman game 06:48 < BHSPitMonkey> people (for some reason) still feel obligated to buy and use his software. 06:48 < ballistix> and any retard can use a keyboard 06:48 < BHSPitMonkey> OSS actually -tries- to make software good 06:48 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: the keyboard is annoyingly slow to use 06:48 < ballistix> OSS? 06:49 < BHSPitMonkey> open source software 06:49 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: FLOSS. It's funnier, and more pronouncable :P. 06:49 < BHSPitMonkey> if my nano could do it, I'd be using telephone keypad input. I'm stuck with the keyboard, though :/ 06:49 < jonrelay> If you're doing hangman, why not just have a widget along the bottom with A-Z? Text input will give you a bunch of stuff (numbers, punctuation, Unicode characters) that you'd need to filter out anyway. 06:49 < ballistix> BUT WITH KEYBOARD I DONT NEED AN INPUT FIELD!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( 06:50 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: I think he means just a row of characters that you just scroll through and pick 06:50 < ballistix> yeah 06:50 < jonrelay> You don't need an input field at all. All you want is one letter at a time. 06:50 < ballistix> i would have a little trouble writing that 06:50 < BHSPitMonkey> jonrelay: wouldn't it be awesome if that would slow-scroll :D 06:50 < ballistix> jonrealy is a lot better than me 06:50 < BleuLlama> you should use the scrolling input. no display widget 06:50 < ballistix> no display? 06:51 < BleuLlama> or just display a letter with < > on either side of it. no TI hooks needed 06:51 < BHSPitMonkey> you should use a 3d noose. 06:51 < BleuLlama> i mean no input field. you don't need that for any of 'em 06:51 < ballistix> yeah 06:52 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: kind of like, (now I scroll) 06:52 < ballistix> yeah 06:52 < ballistix> lol and i dont know how im going to draw the dude 06:52 < ballistix> but thats going ot be the last thing i do anyways 06:53 < BHSPitMonkey> he's a stick figure, for crying out loud 06:53 < ballistix> yeha but still 06:53 < BHSPitMonkey> line and circle drawing 06:53 < ballistix> haha i know 06:54 < BHSPitMonkey> unless you want to use really gory png's for each status phase 06:54 < ballistix> fuck that 06:54 < ballistix> lol if you want really gory pngs 06:54 < ballistix> replace the ones that im gonna make with your own 06:55 < ballistix> call it a "skin" if you like 06:55 < BHSPitMonkey> but that would mean you're going with png's... 06:55 < ballistix> which is what i was trying to hint 06:55 < BHSPitMonkey> :/ 06:55 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/core/pz.c: Don't bother prompting about diskmode when a firewire cable is connected for newer ipods. 5g and Nano don't support sync over firewire anyway. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/897) 06:55 < BHSPitMonkey> just use drawing functions 06:55 < iPL-SVN> Someone just broke the PZ2 build. 06:55 < BHSPitMonkey> it'll be more portable among the different models 06:55 < jonrelay> I knew it! 06:55 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: KILL HIM 06:56 < ballistix> lol portable isn't an issue with pz32 06:56 < ballistix> *pz2 06:56 < BHSPitMonkey> haha 06:56 < BHSPitMonkey> ballistix: it is when png's are involved. 06:56 < courtc> I'd like to see a puyo game. someone make one. 06:56 < ballistix> wtf is puyo? 06:57 < BHSPitMonkey> dude, I saw a commercial today for pontiac 06:57 < BHSPitMonkey> and at the end, instead of telling you a url 06:57 < BHSPitMonkey> it showed a screenshot of google and said "google pontiac for more details." 06:57 < BleuLlama> AOL Keyword: "Pontiac" 06:57 < BHSPitMonkey> I was like "wow! even the advertisers are just saying "JFGI" now!" 06:57 < courtc> http://freshmeat.net/projects/flobopuyo/ 06:58 < ballistix> why does iplsvn always say "someone just broke the pz2 build" when bleullama updates or commits something? 06:58 < BleuLlama> Prodigy/GEnie Keyword: "Pontiac: etc. 06:58 < BHSPitMonkey> supertux on the ipod would be fun. 06:58 < BleuLlama> oh. it's puzzlefighter 06:58 < BleuLlama> ;) 06:59 < BleuLlama> i think i'm done for the day. i've done quite a bit today. 06:59 < ballistix> courtc: i like the name (puyo lol) but im not sure whether i have the programming capacity to make such a game 06:59 < courtc> yes, work on hangman first 06:59 < ballistix> haha yes 06:59 < courtc> or maybe hello world. 07:00 < ballistix> hey thanks man 07:00 < BHSPitMonkey> iPuyo 07:00 < BHSPitMonkey> or iPuyod 07:01 < BleuLlama> 'night all 07:01 < ballistix> cya dude 07:01 < courtc> 'night 07:02 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-3-91.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:03 < BHSPitMonkey> `night 07:03 < Lex> morning? :O 07:03 < BHSPitMonkey> " I assume you meant nightlies." 07:03 < Lex> 9 am 07:03 < Lex> ;) 07:03 < BHSPitMonkey> damn bot, with it's lack of reason 07:04 < ai2097> Damn BHSPitLappy, with his overzealous use of `... 07:04 < BHSPitMonkey> damn ai2097, with his useless sarcastic response to EVERYTHING 07:05 < ai2097> Hey, my intelligence is -artificial-. What do you want? 07:05 < BHSPitMonkey> pssh, liar 07:05 < BHSPitMonkey> using that excuse is like when I tried out for the 5th grade talent show last year... 07:06 < BHSPitMonkey> (I'm 16) 07:06 < BHSPitMonkey> but I -beat- those brats... 07:06 < ballistix> lol you actually tried out? 07:07 < BHSPitMonkey> not only tried out, I owned all those shorties 07:08 * BHSPitMonkey glances admiringly at my trophy 07:08 < ballistix> ok, seriously or not? 07:08 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 07:08 < BHSPitMonkey> up to you :P 07:09 < ballistix> yeah, you're kidding. 07:12 < Kingstone> lol 07:12 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-3-91.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:16 < BHSPitLappy> Kingstone: rare appearance :P 07:25 < Kingstone> hehe 07:25 < Kingstone> it's weekend, i can afford it ;p 07:25 < BHSPitLappy> how's ipw going 07:26 < Kingstone> slowly but surely ;d 07:26 < Kingstone> you are now able to edit directly on ipod 07:26 < Kingstone> it's good for iPL users 07:26 < Kingstone> who still want linux and modded apple firmware 07:26 < Kingstone> so they don't have to do update with updater ;) 07:26 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 07:27 < BHSPitLappy> I use iPW but don't use the updater. 07:27 < BHSPitLappy> but yeah, that is easier. 07:28 < BHSPitLappy> are there new builds somewhere? I still just see 1.1e 07:29 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: are the new nano's edges raised? 07:30 < courtc> uh, no? 07:31 < Kingstone> edges..? 07:32 < BHSPitLappy> Kingstone: I read it on iPW's site :P 07:32 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=7424 07:33 < Lex> wtf :o 07:33 < Lex> how my video card is ~70'C in hl2's menu? :D 07:34 -!- veteran [n=blake@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 07:34 < Lex> or in dod source's :o 07:51 < jonrelay> Heh, the podzillanano guy put a password on his forum because of all the spam. :P 07:57 < BHSPitLappy> haha 07:57 < BHSPitLappy> oh noes. 07:57 < BHSPitLappy> I pasted this earlier, but it's just too cool not to show to the people that missed it again... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774 07:57 < BHSPitLappy> apple is insane! that's just too amazing. 07:57 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-132-141-255.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:58 < jonrelay> That video is awesome. ^^ 08:01 < BHSPitLappy> I know :D 08:02 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-143-51-182.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:03 < ai2097> courtc: Ping? 08:03 < courtc> pong 08:04 < ai2097> Is the HEAD version of MPD currently working for you? 08:04 < courtc> haven't tried it in a while, why? 08:05 < ai2097> Well, MPD seems to be dying in init_file_buffer(). 08:06 < ai2097> At least, that's where the traces stop. MPDC says it can't connect, and there was no error output from MPD as to why, so I added what amount to printfs to figure out where things broke down. 08:12 < ballistix> ok, if i get the length of a string, called x, how would i be able to print x number of underscores? 08:14 < ballistix> courtc? 08:15 < courtc> ai2097: I'll look at it tomorrow. 08:15 < BHSPitLappy> I know how to do it in BASIC :P 08:16 < BHSPitLappy> well, kind of 08:17 < ballistix> haha 08:17 < ballistix> thanks courtc 08:17 < ballistix> (sarcasm) 08:17 < courtc> char *u_line = strdup(str); memset(u_line, '_', strlen(str)); 08:17 < ballistix> thx 08:17 < ballistix> (not sarcasm) 08:18 < ballistix> so what is strdup? 08:18 < courtc> There are thousands of ways to do it. 08:18 < ballistix> and u_line? 08:18 < courtc> str(ing)dup(licate) 08:18 < jonrelay> strdup allocates a copy of the string 08:18 < jonrelay> u_line is just a variable name. 08:18 < ballistix> oh 08:18 < ballistix> and it has to be pointer... why? 08:19 < courtc> it's a string.... 08:19 < jonrelay> You use strdup so that you don't change the original string. 08:19 < ballistix> oh ok 08:19 < ballistix> so its not a pointer? 08:19 < jonrelay> All strings are pointers. 08:20 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-79.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:20 < ballistix> oh 08:20 < ballistix> lol 08:20 < ballistix> i didn't know that 08:20 < ballistix> haha 08:22 < jonrelay> Or rather, a pointer is how you manipulate strings. 08:23 < courtc> if you don't understand how pointers work, learn. they are one of the most important and flexible aspects of c 08:23 < ballistix> so, static char word[]; word[] = "word"; isn't right? 08:24 < courtc> no. 08:24 < ai2097> Well, it kind of works. You need a "const" in there. 08:24 < ballistix> i somewhat understand pointers 08:24 < ballistix> but not what they have in relation to strings 08:24 < ai2097> String: char*. 08:24 < ballistix> well what about static char word[]; strcpy(word,"word); ? 08:24 < ballistix> with the missing quote in there 08:24 < ai2097> A string is just characters that happen to be allocated in contiguous memory, and end with a \0. 08:25 < courtc> ballistix: no 08:25 < ballistix> lol dammit 08:25 < jonrelay> You haven't allocated any memory to hold "word" 08:25 < ballistix> and how can i go about doing this? 08:25 < courtc> char *word; word = strdup("word"); // is the easiest 08:25 < jonrelay> static char word[50]; strcpy(word,"word"); would work 08:26 < jonrelay> too 08:26 < ballistix> oh static 08:26 < ballistix> courtc 08:26 * BHSPitLappy falling asleep, nite #ipodlinux 08:26 < courtc> or even const char * word="word" 08:26 < courtc> depends on what you want to do. 08:26 < ballistix> so if i printf("%s",word), would it print the word "word'? 08:26 < ballistix> lol im so rusty 08:26 < courtc> yes 08:26 < ai2097> ... 08:27 < ai2097> That's a bad example; word is the variable name and the contents. Differentiate :p. 08:27 < ballistix> so basically i just have to make the variable "word" static 08:27 < ai2097> ballistix: Do you know what "static" means? 08:27 < ballistix> yeah 08:28 < ballistix> like, the location in memory doesn't change 08:28 < ballistix> right? 08:28 < courtc> no really. 08:28 < ai2097> That's part of it. There are other attributes static confers as well. 08:28 < courtc> not* 08:28 -!- Hostile [n=lanteau@cblmdm72-240-80-173.buckeyecom.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:29 < courtc> depending on where you put it in a file. 08:29 < ballistix> yeah... dont really know them... 08:29 < aegray> haha 28 megs 08:29 < aegray> erm 08:29 < ballistix> ?? 08:29 < ai2097> 1) static variables are only visible in the translation units they are declared in. There is no linkage outside of this TU. 08:31 < ai2097> 2) static variables, when initialized at the same time they are declared, will be initialized only once. 08:31 < ballistix> ok 08:31 < courtc> 3) static variables without initializers are initialized as null 08:31 < ballistix> thx for tha 08:32 < ballistix> *that 08:32 < ai2097> Twisted example: for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++) { static int foo = i; // always 0 } 08:32 < ballistix> oh shit i had it static already 08:32 < ballistix> haha 08:32 < courtc> ballistix: I think you were thinking const 08:32 < ai2097> Bah. Bad C++ syntax! 08:32 < ballistix> i dunno what i was thinking 08:33 < ballistix> why would it always be zero... the number could still increase though couldn't it? 08:33 < courtc> foo is always 0 08:33 < ai2097> No. Always zero. The static statement is executed only once. 08:34 < courtc> i increases, foo stays the same 08:34 * ballistix reels in confusement 08:34 < ballistix> OOHHHH 08:34 < ballistix> i see 08:34 < ballistix> good explaining 08:34 < ballistix> lol i was thinking that i stayed at 0 08:34 < ballistix> which caused foo to stay at 0 08:35 < ballistix> even though the static statement is executed only once, wouldn't it be ignored on the next loop? 08:35 < ballistix> and foo++ ? 08:35 < ai2097> No; static means there is only one. It's not on the stack. 08:36 < ballistix> oh ok 08:36 < ballistix> thanks for that 08:36 < Kingstone> k 08:36 < ballistix> so 08:36 < ballistix> char *u_line = strdup(word); 08:36 < ballistix> memset(u_line, '_', strlen(word)); 08:37 < ballistix> would that output _*number of letters in word to the variable u_line? 08:37 < courtc> it won't output anything. 08:37 < ballistix> lol i mean when i print it 08:38 < courtc> when you "print" u_line, sure. 08:38 < ballistix> ok cool 08:38 < ballistix> thank you 08:41 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-088-161.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- Blipus [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-175-101.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:48 < aegray> anyone on linux - does mount show the swap partition mounted? 08:48 < aegray> / how do I tell if the swap partition is being used? 08:48 < courtc> free 08:49 < aegray> erm - i mean how would I tell if its even available for the system to use? 08:49 < Blipus> /proc/swaps lists the partitions it uses 08:50 < courtc> swapon -s 08:50 < aegray> fuck 08:50 < aegray> k 08:50 < aegray> k night 08:50 < aegray> damnit 08:50 < aegray> hrm 08:50 < aegray> i have this in fstab: 08:50 < aegray> /dev/hdb1 none swap sw 0 0 08:51 < aegray> but swapon and /proc/swaps both say nothing 08:51 < aegray> am i doing something wrong? 08:51 < ai2097> You did run swapon, right? 08:51 < aegray> swapon -s? 08:51 < aegray> yea 08:51 < courtc> /dev/hdb1 swap swap defaults 0 0 08:52 < ai2097> aegray: swapon /dev/hdb1 08:52 < Blipus> i have "... none swap ..." and mine's fine 08:52 < courtc> huh.. 08:52 < aegray> ai2097: heh invalid argument 08:53 < aegray> thats what the example line in fstab looked like :/ 08:53 < courtc> swapon -a 08:53 < aegray> aegray@localhost ~/dev/ipodlinux/re/emu $ sudo swapon -a 08:53 < aegray> swapon: /dev/hdb1: Invalid argument 08:53 < aegray> wtf 08:53 < ai2097> swapon -a 08:53 < ai2097> Err... 08:54 * aegray confused 08:54 < aegray> can it not take it from a different harddrive than the root partition? 08:54 < ai2097> No; that shouldn't be an issue. 08:54 < ai2097> You ran mkswap? 08:54 < aegray> ah 08:55 * aegray dumb 08:55 < ai2097> Oh well. I'm sure I'll do the same thing at some point :p. 08:55 < aegray> thanks 09:01 -!- Cillian_ is now known as Cillian 09:07 < ballistix> what does it mean when i get a segmentation fault? 09:07 < josh_> it means you made a boo-boo 09:07 < ballistix> lol thought so 09:07 < josh_> (incidentally, "bus error" and "illegal instruction" mean the same thing) 09:08 < josh_> (and if you can't figure out what "divide by zero" means, you shouldn't be programming.) 09:08 < ballistix> haha its funny cause it compiles ok 09:08 < josh_> this program compiles fine 09:08 < ballistix> and by ok i mean no errors 09:08 < josh_> int main() { *(char *)42 = 'x'; } 09:08 < josh_> it still segfaults. 09:08 < ballistix> ok 09:08 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-65-68-201-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:09 < courtc> learn gdb 09:09 < ballistix> lol i would if i knew what it was 09:09 < josh_> compile your program with -g 09:09 < josh_> type 09:09 < josh_> gdb program 09:09 < josh_> r 09:09 < courtc> Gnu DeBugger 09:09 < josh_> when it crashes, it'll tell you what line it crashed on 09:09 < ballistix> oh 09:09 < ballistix> ok 09:09 < josh_> you can do a ton more with it, that's just scratching the surface 09:10 < courtc> I'm in gdb now, I use it a ton. 09:10 < josh_> yep, me too 09:10 < Kingstone> of course it will segfault.. 09:10 < josh_> Kingstone: to whom were you talking? 09:10 < Blipus> josh_: have you built a busybox? 09:10 < Kingstone> dunno, just saw the example 09:11 < Kingstone> memory access violation 09:11 < ballistix> lol i can't comprehend what that code that he wrote does 09:11 < josh_> it pokes the character 'x' into memory address 42 09:11 < Kingstone> yep 09:11 < josh_> since there isn't anything at that address, you get a segfault. 09:11 < ballistix> oh... 09:12 < Kingstone> plus the program isn't allowed to access that memory address 09:12 < ai2097> Well... it's more like, because that address is... what Kingstone staid. 09:12 < ballistix> i think i know why... 09:12 < ballistix> josh_: permission to pm? 09:12 < josh_> feel free 09:12 < ballistix> kewl 09:13 < courtc> *(int *)rand() = rand(); memset(0x0, 0, 0xffffffff); 09:13 < courtc> wee! 09:13 < Kingstone> lol 09:13 < ballistix> lol 09:13 < ballistix> no clue what that is 09:13 < josh_> sets a random address to a random value, and fills memory with zeroes. 09:14 < Kingstone> lots of memory ;d 09:14 < josh_> 3 09:14 < josh_> ^ you know what I say now 09:15 < courtc> it'd work on the iPod, I'm almost convinced floydzilla does the rand in order to cause all those crashes. 09:15 < Blipus> josh_: where did you get the modified busybox that you're recommending to use with pz2? 09:15 < josh_> I just compiled it myself.. 09:16 < josh_> www.busybox.net 09:16 < Blipus> i did that, i can 09:16 < Blipus> sorry, I can't get the init() stuff to work though 09:16 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 09:16 < Kingstone> what's busybox :O? 09:16 < Blipus> everything else is fine, it just hangs on the init, so I'm wondering what I set wrong in the .config 09:17 < ai2097> Kingstone: coreutils in one statically-linked exec :p? 09:17 < Blipus> it's a tiny program that implements a ton of functions in a really space-conscious manner 09:18 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:18 < ai2097> Blipus: Tiny is a relative term :p. 09:20 < Blipus> okay, so instead of having 100 executables totaling 2MB, busybox implements them all in a single ~500k executable 09:20 < ai2097> But then, I suppose if they got vi into < 234k, I can't be too critical. 09:23 < ai2097> On the flipside, busybox follows the 80/20 rule: it implements 20% of the features used 80% of the time. The other 20% of the time, you're SOL because busybox either works differently, or plain-out doesn't have the feature you need. 09:24 < Blipus> anywho, do you have anyidea why i can't get it to boot up? 09:24 < Blipus> i'm including the init applet 09:25 < Blipus> It compiles and everything, and if I run it from an already booted iPod, it works fine. So it's just the init applet that doesn't work 09:26 < ai2097> /etc/inittab is sane? 09:26 < Blipus> yep 09:26 < Blipus> the only thing I'm replacing is the busybox binary, from Josh's to mine 09:27 < ai2097> And busybox gives output that confirms init is built in? 09:27 < Blipus> yep 09:28 < ai2097> what does init do on the already-running system? 09:28 < Blipus> boots up properly 09:28 < ai2097> "new-busybox init" that is. 09:28 < Blipus> When I boot up with a working busybox init, it says: BINFMT_FLAT: Loading file /etc/rc 09:29 < ballistix> courtc: with the line memset(u_line, '_', strlen(word)); how would i be able to make it print an underscore and then space, like '_ ' 09:29 < Blipus> and "starting pid 10, console /dev/vc/1: '/etc/rc'" 09:29 < Blipus> but my busybox just hangs 09:29 < ai2097> And you linked with -Wl,-elf2flt 09:30 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:31 < Blipus> yep, i had to add a LDFLAGS := -Wl, -elf2flt to the Rules.mak , but it worked 09:32 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:32 < ai2097> Hmm. Using the old toolchain or new toolchain? 09:32 < Blipus> I think Josh should just send me the .config he used, so I know I'm not doing something ridiculous 09:32 < Blipus> new toolchain 09:32 < josh_> Blipus: I'm not sure my init works either... 09:32 < Blipus> old toolchain messes up at some point, I'm not sure where 09:32 < ai2097> Try the old one. 09:32 < ai2097> Nevermind, then :p. 09:33 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:33 < Blipus> josh_: hrm, how on earth does that other busybox you built boot up, though? :P 09:33 < josh_> idk, I think I have a stnadalone init or something. 09:33 < josh_> I don't still have the .config for it, sorry. 09:33 < aegray> josh_: care for a few c++ questions? 09:34 < josh_> ask away 09:34 -!- redness [n=red@c220-239-78-210.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Before: 255,255,255 ; Now 0,255,255"] 09:34 < aegray> whats the general way to return an array? 09:34 < aegray> just type*? 09:34 < aegray> or a vector? 09:34 < josh_> it's up to you 09:34 < Blipus> hrm, this is going to drive me nuts. I wonder if the code itself was altered in someway 09:34 < aegray> or a reference... 09:34 < ai2097> Blipus: Current userland looks to have a standalone init. 09:34 < aegray> when is it better to use a reference rather than a pointer? 09:34 < josh_> whenever you can 09:34 < ai2097> Blipus: Try a hardlink instead of a symlink. 09:35 < josh_> references can't be NULL and can't be reseated 09:35 < aegray> what does reseated mean? 09:35 < josh_> you can't change what they point to 09:35 < josh_> unlike with a pointer 09:35 < aegray> k 09:35 < josh_> because there's no level of indirection 09:35 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:35 < josh_> the reference *is* the object, though in memory it's stored as a pointer 09:35 < courtc> ballistix: int len = strlen(str)*2; char *u_score = malloc(len); char *p; for (p = u_score; p - u_score < len; *p++ = '_', *p++ = ' '); 09:35 < Blipus> I'm pretty sure it works as a softlink with the old busybox, let me check that though 09:35 < aegray> so why should I use it as often as possible? 09:36 < ai2097> Gah. No. No. No. References should only be used if they're const, or in the case of overloaded operators. 09:36 < aegray> why? 09:36 < ai2097> Otherwise you can't tell if your paramater is an IN or an OUT. 09:36 < ai2097> You can inadvertently pass what you think is a value, and get it all mucked up. 09:36 < aegray> k 09:36 < ballistix> thanks courtc 09:36 < ai2097> Pointers force you to explicitly acknowledge that the called function can touch your data. 09:37 < aegray> so lets say i have this: a class for a line and a constructor that takes two points 09:37 < aegray> would I pass the points as references? 09:37 < aegray> or by value? 09:37 < ai2097> Const references. 09:37 < aegray> and then would I use copy constructor to create new points for internal use in the class? 09:37 < josh_> is a point a Point (an object) or just two x,y values? 09:38 < aegray> a class with x,y values 09:38 < josh_> eh, I'd use a ref there, yeah 09:38 < josh_> it does mean you can't do 09:38 < josh_> new Line (Point(1,2), Point(3,4)); 09:38 < aegray> then my_point1 = new point(arg1)? 09:38 < josh_> - you have to actually have real named Point values you pass to it 09:38 < josh_> (if I understand correctly) 09:38 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-142-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:38 < josh_> ai2097: am I right? 09:39 < ai2097> No; those create temporary objects. 09:39 < aegray> but I would need to use a copy constructor like that correct? or could I just do mypoint = arg1? 09:39 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:40 < ai2097> Yes. You need to make deep copies. 09:42 < ai2097> The paramaters being passed in are not to be owned by the class -- thus, the class must only read them, and it must not store a reference to them, because they could go away (as in josh_'s example). 09:42 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:42 < josh_> ai2097: Is it possible to just treat references as pointers with the * permanently attached? 09:43 < josh_> That is, could you think of that constructor as 09:43 < ai2097> Yes. That's exactly what they are. 09:43 < josh_> ah, ok 09:43 < josh_> so if you do = , it'll call operator=, not just store another reference? 09:43 < ai2097> Well, or the & permanently attached :p. 09:43 < josh_> heh 09:43 < Blipus> josh_: did you build busybox in the uClinux-dist tree, or from source downloaded from the busybox webpage? 09:43 < aegray> would it be invalid to create the constructor like constructor(point*arg1, points*arg2)? 09:45 < ai2097> josh_: Yes. 09:46 < josh_> cool. 09:46 < josh_> Blipus: busybox.net 09:47 < ai2097> Point Foo(); Point* Bar = &Foo; Point& Baz = Bar; leads to Foo, Bar and Baz all referring to the same object, though :p. 09:47 < Blipus> josh_: thanks. any idea which toolchain? 09:48 < josh_> 3.4.3 09:48 < aegray> ^ 09:48 < aegray> :P 09:50 < Blipus> btw, what's the problem with building the kernel with a recent uclibc toolchain? 09:50 < aegray> its a pain in the ass to update 09:51 < Blipus> to update the toolchain? don't we already have prebuilt ones? 09:51 < aegray> to update the makefiles and config to work with a new toolchain 09:51 < aegray> some flags dont work or are invalid 09:52 < Blipus> I see 09:52 < Blipus> I guess it would make more sense to just go to a 2.6 kernel if you were going to put that much work into it 09:52 < aegray> yep 09:53 < ai2097> And therein lies the short answer: Kernels get built with the toolchain of their era. 09:57 < Blipus> okay, i'll forget about busybox for awhile. 09:57 < Blipus> any idea why i can't pipe stderr to a file in minix-sh? 10:01 < josh_> ldr ip, =bed 10:01 < josh_> mov lr, pc 10:01 < josh_> mov pc, ip 10:01 -!- xevian [n=xevix@adsl-70-231-231-201.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 < aegray> lame 10:01 < josh_> hey, I'm tired, cut me some slack :-) 10:01 * courtc : "I'm going to bed" 10:01 < aegray> hahaha 10:01 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-66-232.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:02 -!- xevian is now known as xevix 10:08 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fd355.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:09 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fd355.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 10:11 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fd355.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:23 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has quit ["Sleep."] 10:24 * ballistix : "I'm gonna go play some Need for speed most wanted" 10:24 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-86-31-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit ["blade@insider-network.net"] 10:29 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-088-161.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:31 < Lex> airtunes = wifi? 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i guess 14:27 < rmh3093> yeah i meant the arm toolchain 14:28 < bluey> not yet, havent figured out how to install it on my gentoo 14:29 < bluey> i think there is a howto on the rockbox page 14:29 < rmh3093> never mind 14:31 -!- northern_brs [n=high_fly@88.240.95.20] has joined #ipodlinux 14:31 < northern_brs> hi 14:31 < Cillian> yo 14:31 < northern_brs> i need help 14:31 < Cillian> what's the problem... 14:32 < northern_brs> i wanna install linux to my ipof 14:32 < northern_brs> ipod 14:32 < Cillian> is it an ipod video 14:32 < northern_brs> but i have failed 14:32 < northern_brs> no 14:32 < Cillian> ok 14:32 < northern_brs> i pod mini 14:32 < Cillian> and you can't restore it with the apple tool? 14:32 < northern_brs> i restore it too many times when i fail 14:33 < Cillian> huh? 14:33 < northern_brs> i restore it with ipod updatetr 14:34 < Cillian> and? 14:34 < northern_brs> i try to install linux again 14:34 < northern_brs> but there is nothing 14:34 < Cillian> have you tried disk mode? 14:34 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 < northern_brs> no 14:35 < Cillian> type this: /msg iplbot broken 15:01 -!- KS [n=kspoonp@221.127.171.5] has joined #ipodlinux 15:02 < KS> after install the linux in nano, can anyone tell me , is it possible can play video in the nano? 15:06 -!- intim [i=UNKNOWN@c218140.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:07 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:07 -!- intim [i=UNKNOWN@c144088.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:15 < tlg> NAMES 15:15 < KS> possible to play mp4 in nano? 15:16 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 15:28 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:32 -!- Sound-Mind [n=Spencer@c-69-143-89-200.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:39 -!- Red-Sox [n=chatzill@hrrsnbrg-bluewave1-69-161-2-117.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:39 < Red-Sox> hello 15:40 < Red-Sox> I'm having a bit of trouble with iPodLinux 15:40 < Red-Sox> for one, when I try to go back from the "Settings" page to the "Podzilla page" and it freezes 15:41 < Red-Sox> then, also, in some of the directorys, I can't see the file name, just an arrow to the right of the screen 15:44 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 < SereRokR> wha svn doesn't work on my mac why :< 15:46 < Red-Sox> idk 15:46 < Red-Sox> I need some help too.... 15:46 < do_me_nice> apt-get install svn... im not sure if that will work 15:47 < Red-Sox> iPodLinux installed fine, but there are some problems that I feel it is necessary to fix =-O 15:47 < SereRokR> i got a mac -.- 15:49 < do_me_nice> try posting you question on www.ipodlinux.org/forums ... im sure there are more mac users there 15:49 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:54 < KS> can anyone tell me...ipodlinux can support chinese font? 15:54 < Bi-noix> SereRokR: there is package for svn for mac 15:54 < Bi-noix> just google it 15:55 < BleuLlama> KS: ipodlinux only supports uncompressed AVI. read the wiki page on it. 15:56 < Red-Sox> so, is it just me or is it for other people that the in menus, the names of the items do not appear, just the arrows? 15:56 < northern_brs> how can i install linux to ipod mini? 15:56 < BleuLlama> SereRokR: there are OS X binaries you can download and install. I installed subversion from one of these. google for it, you'll find it 15:56 < BleuLlama> Red-Sox: they appear as black boxes instead of text? 15:56 < northern_brs> i use windows 15:57 < BleuLlama> northern_brs: read the forums and the wiki; everything you need to know is in there 15:58 < KS> does anyone know ipodlinux support chinese font? 15:59 < Red-Sox> BleuLlama: no, they don't appear as ANYTHING, just white 15:59 < BleuLlama> Red-Sox: podzilla 0 or podzilla 2? 15:59 < Red-Sox> umm, lemme check 16:00 < Red-Sox> dunno, KS 16:00 < Red-Sox> 2.4.42 16:00 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C0358D.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:00 < BleuLlama> right. that's linux. the podzilla app you installed. where did you get it from? 16:01 < Red-Sox> me?? 16:01 < Red-Sox> let me show you 16:01 < Red-Sox> bah, your gonna get mad at me, oh well http://wiki.ehow.com/Install-Ipod-Linux-on-a-4th-Generation-Photo-or-Nano-Ipod 16:01 < BleuLlama> oh. you used a hacked installer 16:01 < BleuLlama> sorry. can't help you 16:01 < BleuLlama> ask in the forums 16:01 < BleuLlama> someone over there might be able to help you 16:02 < Red-Sox> where are the forums? 16:02 < BleuLlama> go to the main ipodlinux page, click on 'forums' 16:02 < Red-Sox> k, thx 16:07 < Red-Sox> aaarrrggghhh 16:08 < Red-Sox> the forums say they will delete anything that has to do with the 4G 16:10 < hyarion> Red-Sox: is it an ipod color? 16:12 < Red-Sox> yes 16:13 < hyarion> I think you just need to update podzilla to a newer version 16:13 < BleuLlama> there are a bunch of tutorials there. just do one of those and you'll be fine. just be sure to use a nightly kernel and podzilla 16:13 < BleuLlama> all of the information you need is on the wiki there. 16:14 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:14 < Red-Sox> hyarion: how do I do that? 16:15 < hyarion> http://ipodlinux.org/Updating_podzilla 16:15 < BleuLlama> er. i meant forums 16:15 < Red-Sox> thank you 16:15 < Red-Sox> BleuLlama: oh 16:15 < BleuLlama> but yeah. everything is on the wiki too 16:15 < hyarion> :) 16:16 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C0358D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 16:17 < Red-Sox> hyarion: I don't understand that... 16:17 < Red-Sox> hyarion: where is the latest build? 16:17 < hyarion> http://ipodlinux.org/Updating_podzilla#Latest_Podzilla_Binaries 16:18 < Red-Sox> and, which one is for windows? 16:18 < Red-Sox> any of them? 16:18 < BleuLlama> did you even read the wiki pages about installing? 16:18 < hyarion> pick the newest one 16:18 < Red-Sox> k 16:18 < Red-Sox> BleuLlama: yes 16:18 < hyarion> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2006-02-17-podzilla.gz <-- that one 16:20 < Red-Sox> so, rename it so it is called Podzilla? 16:20 < hyarion> no 16:20 < Red-Sox> keep it the same? 16:20 < Red-Sox> 2006-02-17-podzilla 16:20 < hyarion> Check the .gz file to see if the size is consistent with the size on the website. If it's larger it may already be decompressed. 16:20 < BleuLlama> dude. this is explained on at least two tutorials, one on the forums, one on the wiki that i can think of 16:21 < Red-Sox> okay, I'm sorry for bothering you all :-\ 16:21 * BleuLlama gives up and walks away 16:21 * BleuLlama points at the topic as he heads out 16:22 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 16:22 -!- PLANKTON [i=PLANKTON@c-89bc71d5.27-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #IPODLINUX 16:22 < PLANKTON> Hello There 16:23 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-79.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:23 < Red-Sox> k, same size 16:23 < Red-Sox> hello, PLANKTON 16:23 < PLANKTON> Will there be any Linux fore 5G ? 16:23 < PLANKTON> ops 16:23 < PLANKTON> saw the topic now :/ 16:23 < SereRokR> i can't compile TTK on my mac :o 16:23 < SereRokR> christians-mac-mini:~/ipl/ttk ch$ make 16:23 < SereRokR> >>> Building TTK... 16:23 < SereRokR> make -C build/ipod-sdl IPOD=1 SDL=1 all 16:23 < SereRokR> arm-uclinux-elf-gcc -g -I. -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-implicit -Wno-char-subscripts -DIPOD -DNO_TF -DSDL -I../sdlincludes -c -o ttk.o ttk.c 16:23 < SereRokR> make[1]: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Command not found 16:23 < SereRokR> make[1]: *** [ttk.o] Error 127 16:23 < SereRokR> make: *** [all] Error 2 16:23 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-112-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:23 < SereRokR> i installed arm-elf toolchain 16:24 < PLANKTON> I want a 5G linux =D 16:24 < BleuLlama> SereRokR: type: which arm-uclinux-elf-gcc 16:24 < SereRokR> http://ipodlinux.org/Toolchain <- this one 16:25 < SereRokR> but i think it's a problem with my mac i also installed SVN and it didn't work 16:25 < PLANKTON> I'm a newbie, so my question; will there be a linux for 5G? 16:25 < BleuLlama> SereRokR: and you have all of the appropriate /usr/local/... directories in your path? 16:25 < SereRokR> dunno how can i add tehm? 16:25 < SereRokR> them* 16:25 < Red-Sox> hyarion: well, it's not called podzilla, but i'll give it a try 16:26 < BleuLlama> the way you always add directories into your path. 16:26 < BleuLlama> it's not rocket science. 16:26 < SereRokR> and that is? 16:26 < BleuLlama> go read a linux tutorial. 16:26 < PLANKTON> I'm a newbie, so my question; will there be a linux for 5G? 16:26 < BleuLlama> or osx/darwin 16:26 < PLANKTON> I'm a newbie, so my question; will there be a linux for 5G? 16:27 < BleuLlama> PLANKTON: WE HEARD YOUR QUESTION THE FIRST 6 TIMES YOU ASKED 16:27 -!- wizatcomputer [i=wizatcom@pool-71-161-48-137.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:27 < PLANKTON> okeyokey, srry than 16:28 < SereRokR> now it works 16:28 < SereRokR> -.- 16:29 < SereRokR> ok no it doesn't 16:29 < SereRokR> arm-elf-gcc works 16:29 < Red-Sox> PLANKTON: we don't know 16:29 < SereRokR> but there is some compiler error 16:29 -!- PLANKTON [i=PLANKTON@c-89bc71d5.27-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["- nbs-irc 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16:32 < SereRokR> su: fink: command not found 16:33 < SereRokR> -.- 16:33 < Red-Sox> hyarion: oh, okay :D 16:33 < BleuLlama> you need to install fink. 16:33 < Red-Sox> hyarion: did you make iDoom? 16:33 < BleuLlama> and you have now used up all support questions from me. have fun on your own. 16:33 < SereRokR> -.- 16:34 < hyarion> Red-Sox: maybe ;) 16:34 < Red-Sox> :D 16:34 < BleuLlama> everything you need to know is on the wiki. 16:34 < Red-Sox> hyarion: the readme didn't helpme 16:34 < Red-Sox> hyarion: can I PM you so I can show you what the readme said? 16:35 < BleuLlama> Red-Sox: yeah. those first 4 steps on installation in the readme are pretty complex, Red-Sox. i'm with you on that 16:35 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:35 -!- vincent55 [n=vincent@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:35 < Red-Sox> BleuLlama: sarcasm? 16:36 < hyarion> Red-Sox: sure 16:40 -!- joecool|sleep [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit 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(http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/898) 17:10 -!- veteran [n=blake@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:15 -!- vincent55 [n=vincent@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:21 -!- iPL-SVN [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:21 -!- iPL-SVN [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:23 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 17:23 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 17:26 < SereRokR> PZ2 looks nice ^^ 17:28 < imphasing> yeah 17:28 < imphasing> Wanna fight about it? 17:31 < SereRokR> O.o? 17:31 < SereRokR> where can i get adittional "Skins"? 17:31 < SereRokR> ^^ 17:34 < BleuLlama> decorations are compiled in. color schemes are all in the schemes directory you copied over. 17:35 < BleuLlama> there will be a repository of schemes on the ipl site, but it's not done yet 17:35 < SereRokR> ok 17:36 < SereRokR> another questions, will background images be available? ^^ 17:37 < BleuLlama> stop with the carats 17:37 < SereRokR> ok 17:38 < imphasing> I think the nano has become the most used iPL platform.. 17:39 < imphasing> easily. 17:39 < BleuLlama> imphasing: by me, it definitely has. 17:39 < BleuLlama> ;) 17:40 < BleuLlama> i haven't had ipl on my 4g mono, or 1g since at least august of last year. 17:40 < BleuLlama> the day I got my Nano, i had ipl running on it. 17:41 < imphasing> ah.. 17:42 < imphasing> plus, 80% of the forum posts about iPL have been on the nano 17:42 < BleuLlama> i think there's a really good chance that it was the first install of ipl ever on a 1gb nano. ;) 17:42 < imphasing> cool.. 17:42 < imphasing> $129 for yours? 17:42 < BleuLlama> i think apple has sold more nanos than all other ipods at this point. 17:42 < BleuLlama> yep. 17:42 < imphasing> yeah, probably.. 17:42 < imphasing> That's got to be the cheapest way to get a decent sized color screen 17:43 < BleuLlama> exactly 17:43 < imphasing> and an arm processor.. 17:43 < BleuLlama> and to be totally honest, due to the way i work with my music, 1gb is almost enough space for me 17:43 < imphasing> ah.. 17:43 < BleuLlama> actually, an old gba might be cheaper. ;) 17:44 < imphasing> hmm...yeah 17:44 < imphasing> I need ~10gb for my music 17:44 < BleuLlama> i've got ~90gig from our 2000 cds on my computer at home 17:44 < imphasing> ah.. 17:44 < BleuLlama> my 4th gen has been downgraded from a 20gig to a 10gig disk, and i haven't noticed the difference. it's fine. 17:44 < imphasing> I run around the college all the time, so it's handy to take my whole library 17:45 < imphasing> I had a 15gb 3G, with no space problems 17:45 < BleuLlama> and i really only use the nano for podcasts and some 'essential' msuaic. ;) 17:45 < BleuLlama> i only wish iTunes had a "recompress for this ipod" feature 17:45 < BleuLlama> ie; whenever i put music on the ipod, transcode the files to 112k or somesuch 17:45 < imphasing> essential = ["deerhoof", "flaming lips", "led zeppelin", "gorillaz"] 17:45 < imphasing> :) 17:45 < BleuLlama> ah 17:46 < BleuLlama> i've got a few favorite albums i consider 'essential'. :) 17:46 < imphasing> I usually use 256kbit/s 17:46 < BleuLlama> some are here: http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/Audio/#band 17:46 < BleuLlama> i use 128k AAC 17:46 < imphasing> I have all the albums from those artists, so I carry them around all the time 17:47 < BleuLlama> understood. that's how i am with Depeche Mode, Nine Inch Nails, The Beatles (well, post-drugs Beatles), and a few other bands 17:47 < imphasing> Heh, I forgot the beatles 17:47 < imphasing> gotta have them 17:47 < imphasing> I have something like ~600 beatles songs 17:47 < BleuLlama> pre 1965 Beatles aren't as interesting to me 17:48 < imphasing> And I'm always listening to NIN, but I have yet to buy an album.. 17:48 < BleuLlama> plus, i usually have a few episodes of my mixtape podcast on there. 17:48 < BleuLlama> http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/Audio/podcast/ 17:48 < BleuLlama> speaking of which, i should work on a new episode 17:48 < imphasing> Heh, the cranberries are good. 17:49 -!- erus` [n=tom@AC8F20B6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 < imphasing> It's nice having the video ipod, so I can watch that cool indie cartoon video podcast.. 17:50 < BleuLlama> i find that my musical tatses are pretty eclectic. heh 17:50 < imphasing> Yeah, mine are usually classified as "weird" 17:50 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-142-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:51 < imphasing> the flaming lips aren't really conventional..and even I think deerhoof is weird. 17:52 < BleuLlama> the podcasts pretty much cover my current favorites and all-time favorites 17:52 < imphasing> hehe..a kelis song. 17:54 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["Time to switch window managers.."] 17:55 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:57 < BleuLlama> it really is a rediculous amount of technology in a $150 package 17:59 < imphasing> Yeah, I'd think of getting one, but I just got a 5G 17:59 < imphasing> which by the way, is awesome 17:59 < imphasing> The screen is amazing.. 17:59 < BleuLlama> yep. 17:59 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-082-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:59 < BleuLlama> hahahah http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/02/ipod_sock_puppet_the_video.html 18:00 < imphasing> I would expect some blurring at 30fps with an lcd, but it works great 18:00 < BleuLlama> yep. active matrix screens #1 18:00 < BleuLlama> ;) 18:01 < imphasing> I remember the days of the good ol' tft laptop.. 18:01 < imphasing> they were bad days, 18:01 < BleuLlama> supertwist LCDs 18:01 < imphasing> Never heard of it.. 18:01 < BleuLlama> i've actually got a Grid laptop with a plasma screen 18:01 < imphasing> whoa.. 18:01 < imphasing> I've got this old ibm thinkpad with a tft screen 18:01 < BleuLlama> supertwists were passive-matrix displays with decent resolution 18:03 < imphasing> ah 18:03 < imphasing> cool 18:03 < BleuLlama> it's just one of the technologies used for LCDs in earlier laptop/luggable machines 18:04 < imphasing> haha..luggable.. 18:04 < imphasing> yay for apple ][ 18:07 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:11 < imphasing> I'm not old enough to remember the apple ][ though 18:11 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@ban231.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 18:18 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 -!- LittleSnag [n=LittleSn@ARennes-257-1-75-164.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 18:24 -!- LittleSnag [n=LittleSn@ARennes-257-1-75-164.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 18:29 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 18:46 -!- TrisoBoy 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imphasing> !! 19:08 < imphasing> I wouldn't be able to figure out how to work it, but damn.. 19:08 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C0358D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 19:08 < imphasing> Actually, it doesn't look too complex.. 19:08 < imphasing> I'd want the 600mm one 19:08 < imphasing> :) 19:09 < imphasing> er.. 51mm 19:09 < imphasing> =/ 19:09 < BleuLlama> i wonder if it's possible to drive a monitor at 15khz... grab the RGB before it gets converted to composite... 19:09 < BleuLlama> if so, you could make arcade game JAMMA boards pretty easily with it 19:09 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@69.156.105.88] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:09 < BleuLlama> hardware emulation of early 80s games. 19:09 < BleuLlama> etc. 19:09 < imphasing> That would be cool.. 19:10 < imphasing> You've done stuff like that? 19:10 < BleuLlama> or, make a portable game machine aout of it 19:10 < imphasing> that would be kickass 19:10 < imphasing> 8 processors.. 19:10 < BleuLlama> not hardwa,re but i've done software for classic arcade machines 19:10 < imphasing> Think you could build something like that? 19:10 < BleuLlama> that board, a joystick and a few buttons, mixed with a small pocket tv, and a battery pack... that'd rock 19:11 < BleuLlama> like a GPX2 on acid 19:11 < imphasing> I wonder if there are proto boards for that chip.. 19:11 < BHSPitLappy> or a PSP on steroids! 19:11 < imphasing> looks like it 19:11 < BleuLlama> nah. PSP is beefier than this 19:11 < BleuLlama> but a simple case like this: http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/ would be great 19:12 < BHSPitLappy> Off topic, but http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774 19:12 < BHSPitLappy> I *SO* would like to play with -THAT- 19:12 < BleuLlama> i'm sure a huge experimenter's community will follow. 19:12 < BleuLlama> anyway... 19:12 < BleuLlama> BHS: yeah 19:12 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:13 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FD45C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:13 < BHSPitLappy> hey fxb 19:13 < fxb> hey 19:13 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:14 < BHSPitLappy> wb imphasing 19:14 < imphasing> heh 19:15 < imphasing> brb, my background is all white.. 19:15 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:15 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 < imphasing> woo. 19:17 < imphasing> I wonder what a good processor to start fiddling with would be.. 19:17 < imphasing> besides a stamp. 19:19 -!- karmon [n=Armon@MTL-HSE-ppp177930.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 < veteran> besides a stamp... lego mindstorm? ;) 19:24 < imphasing> :( 19:24 < imphasing> I had that when I was like..12 19:24 < imphasing> they were kickass 19:25 < imphasing> There's PICs are stuff, but something like an arm would be nice.. 19:25 < imphasing> I don't know if there are any proto boards for any of the arms though 19:25 < Cillian> PICs are great 19:25 < Cillian> if you can afford an ICD 19:25 < imphasing> PICs are not what I'm looking for though. 19:25 < Cillian> hmm... 19:25 < imphasing> They're not really relevent to much.. 19:25 < veteran> arm dev boards aren't cheap, PIC is most economical 19:26 < imphasing> hrm 19:26 < Cillian> the actual PICs are cheap 19:26 < Cillian> but the development kit is quiet steep if you get the official microchip stuff 19:26 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@Toronto-HSE-ppp3860548.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 19:26 < imphasing> there are "pics" that microchip doesn't make that are loads cheaper 19:26 < imphasing> and the boards too 19:27 < veteran> what is your objective? 19:27 < veteran> do you have a project you're working on or are you just trying to learn cpu arch 19:27 < imphasing> "To learn the naunces of ARM" 19:27 < imphasing> that 19:27 < imphasing> cpu arch 19:27 < imphasing> :) 19:27 < linuxstb> BleuLlama: You may like the sight of this: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockmame.mpg 19:27 < veteran> oh, then get an ARM. der? 19:28 < imphasing> linuxstb: !! 19:28 < imphasing> nice! 19:28 < imphasing> veteran: Yeah, probably.. 19:28 < veteran> linuxstb, beautiful 19:28 < linuxstb> Someone should port mame to IPL - especially the 5g. 19:29 -!- bannyr [n=bannyr@219.95.0.187] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 < imphasing> linuxstb: Is that just a straight port of MAME? 19:29 < linuxstb> Yes - v0.18 19:29 < imphasing> did it compile easily for arm? 19:29 < linuxstb> It was the first version with a bug-free pacman driver. 19:29 < linuxstb> Relatively. 19:29 < imphasing> sdl output? 19:29 < linuxstb> Rockbox. 19:29 < imphasing> hmm 19:30 < linuxstb> I don't know what you're using in IPL now for keyboard and screen I/O 19:30 < imphasing> well, for the screen, probably SDL 19:31 -!- bannyr [n=bannyr@219.95.0.187] has quit [Client Quit] 19:31 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-082-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:31 < BHSPitLappy> linuxstb: holy crap 19:31 < linuxstb> The problem for Rockbox is that Mame isn't GPL'd - it's got a "non commercial use only" clause. 19:32 < imphasing> ah.. 19:32 < linuxstb> But if you can get it running as an application in IPL, then that's fine. 19:32 < BHSPitLappy> what makes rockbox commercial? 19:32 < linuxstb> The GPL 19:33 < linuxstb> The GPL allows commercial use. 19:33 -!- karmon [n=Armon@MTL-HSE-ppp177930.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:34 < BHSPitLappy> oh, and linuxstb : did that output sound? 19:35 < linuxstb> No, but I should be able to get sound working. 19:35 < BHSPitLappy> cool 19:35 * BHSPitLappy thinks mame is probably wasted on anything other than the 5G :/ 19:35 < linuxstb> That version of Mame supports sound, I just haven't implemented the functions for Rockbox. 19:35 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:35 < imphasing> Weird...18 source seems to have syntax errors.. 19:36 < imphasing> er, 0.18 sources 19:36 < imphasing> :) 19:36 < BHSPitLappy> linuxstb: what res does pacman run at? 19:36 < linuxstb> Yep - pacman is 224x288 - so it fits perfectly on a rotated 240x320 screen. 19:36 < BHSPitLappy> hehehe 19:36 < BHSPitLappy> quick response! 19:37 < linuxstb> And you can just use 5 buttons - the 4 direction keys (mapped to MENU, LEFT, RIGHT and PLAY) and the centre button is mapped to both "start" and "insert coin". So pressing centre inserts a coin and starts. 19:37 < linuxstb> Flicking the hold switch exits. 19:38 < imphasing> linuxstb: Can I get a copy of your source? 19:38 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 -!- vincent55 [n=vincent@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:40 < imphasing> It probably wouldn't be hard to get that to run on ipod rockbox.. 19:41 < linuxstb> I'm still deciding what to do with my source - because of the Rockbox licensing problem. 19:41 < BHSPitLappy> distribute it privately to those who ask for it? :P 19:41 < linuxstb> I don't trust anyone :) 19:41 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 19:41 < linuxstb> But I really want to distribute it, so I'll see what I can do. 19:42 < BHSPitLappy> well, if we had amazing scaling someday, nano-mame might look like http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9898/mamenano9zo.png 19:42 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 < linuxstb> Is the nano 176x132? 19:42 < BHSPitLappy> linuxstb: couldn't you release -that- source under a license that put it in the clear? 19:42 < imphasing> linuxstb: I know what you mean.. 19:42 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 19:42 < imphasing> linuxstb: I've been looking all around for an open source pacman emulator 19:42 < imphasing> to no avail 19:42 < imphasing> I'm SURE someone has written one though 19:42 < linuxstb> So a 50% Pacman would be 112x144, which isn't bad. 19:43 < imphasing> And I don't want to cause any licensing trouble 19:43 < BHSPitLappy> linuxstb: but yeah, it could just be a separate project 19:43 < linuxstb> But the main reason I mentioned it, is to try and encourage someone to port an early version of Mame to IPL. 19:43 < linuxstb> The ipod is definitely capable of running the very early games. 19:45 < imphasing> linuxstb: was your mamo source missing the m6502 header file? 19:45 < linuxstb> The first thing I did was to delete all the code not needed for pacman. 19:45 < imphasing> ah 19:45 < imphasing> pacman is z80, right? 19:45 < linuxstb> So that includes the 6502 directory. 19:45 < imphasing> right 19:46 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama would probably be the one to want to pick up this effort... he's pretty retro like that. 19:47 -!- vincent55 [n=vincent@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 < BHSPitLappy> not like that makes a difference... meh 19:56 < vincent55> I'm trying to get the hotdog demo working on 5G... where should the png pics go ? it says it can't find them on /mnt, but I doubt they should go there ... 19:56 < imphasing> put them in the fat partition 19:56 < vincent55> at root ? 19:56 < veteran> (does it work on 5g?) 19:56 < imphasing> yeah 19:56 < imphasing> it works great 19:56 < imphasing> ~15fps 19:57 < imphasing> :) 19:57 < veteran> i thought 5g had video display issues 19:57 < imphasing> heh 19:57 < imphasing> they've sort of fixed those 19:58 < vincent55> mmmh... nope, it still says it can't find them :( 19:59 < imphasing> works for me.. 19:59 < vincent55> they are at the root of my fat 19:59 < imphasing> huh 19:59 < imphasing> all of them? 19:59 < vincent55> yes... photos, music, movies, dvd, and bg, and bat, and ball 20:00 < imphasing> strange.. 20:00 < vincent55> maybe it's my /etc/rc which doesn't mount the fat partition ... ? 20:00 < vincent55> properly I mean 20:00 < imphasing> it's possible.. 20:01 -!- imphasing_ [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 < vincent55> whooohoo !!! :) :) 20:02 < vincent55> that was it ;) 20:02 < vincent55> wonderfulll :) 20:02 < imphasing> yay 20:02 < imphasing> :) 20:02 < imphasing> Looks nice, doens't it? 20:02 < vincent55> it is SOOOOO coool :) 20:02 < vincent55> I want to get it full screen though 20:03 < vincent55> and get PZ2 to work now ! 20:03 < vincent55> cuz it doesn't work for me (nor PZ0), but i guess it's normal isn't it ? 20:03 < vincent55> (it is so cool, josh should get a medal for that !) 20:03 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 20:04 < imphasing_> yeah, it's great 20:04 < imphasing_> :) 20:04 < imphasing_> I don't seem to have a /usr/X11/lib directory.. 20:05 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 < imphasing_> Arg, looks like pacman uses some pengo stuff, and I deleted those files 20:06 < imphasing_> :( 20:08 < vincent55> why is PZ0/2 not working now that we got LCD/sound fixed ? 20:08 -!- disident [n=disident@lec67-4-82-235-56-34.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:08 < bluey> good question 20:08 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-132-141-255.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:09 < vincent55> haha, that's the pb ? we don't know ? :) if pz2 uses hotdog, then it'd be fixed right ? 20:09 < imphasing_> No one has put the new lcd driver into SDL yet 20:10 < imphasing_> I was working on that, but I got confused 20:10 < imphasing_> :( 20:12 < imphasing_> linuxstb: unix.c would be the entry point for a unix system? 20:12 < bluey> how well works ipodloader now? 20:12 < bluey> ipodloader2 20:14 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:14 < BHSPitLappy> bluey: which iPod do you have? 20:15 < bluey> 5g 20:15 < coob> imphasing_: it'd be easy to put the 5g lcd code into sdl. 20:15 < BHSPitLappy> so yeah, either use ipodloader2 or the rockbox bootloader 20:16 < imphasing_> coob: Yeah, I thought so too.. 20:16 < bluey> well right now i'm using the rockbox loader but i`d like to stick to ipodloader2 in the future 20:16 < imphasing_> It probably would be for anyone else though 20:16 < BHSPitLappy> the rockbox one is faster IMO, but it's not as easy to operate as loader2 20:16 < bluey> but wasn`t the lcd problem on the iploader2 a problem too? 20:16 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:16 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as BamaWOLF 20:19 < vincent55> lcd_bcm_write32 should be updated in iPL too then right ? 20:19 -!- SereR0kR [n=Fletcher@Fd324.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:25 < linuxstb> imphasing_: unix.c isn't the entry point - it's the implementation of the screen and keyboard I/O (and sound) for Unix systems. There is an msdos.c as well with the equivalent. 20:25 < imphasing_> holy schlamoly, it built! 20:25 < imphasing_> yeah, I figured that out 20:25 < imphasing_> :) 20:25 < imphasing_> Now I need a way to output the video.. 20:25 < imphasing_> X11 isn't going to work 20:25 < imphasing_> :) 20:27 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-249-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:28 < linuxstb> imphasing_: Don't forget to #define LSB_FIRST in Z80.h (for little-endian CPUs like the iPod) 20:28 < imphasing_> ah yes.. 20:29 < imphasing_> I'm just trying to get a semi-working pacman emu at the moment, I'll worry about getting it to iPL later 20:29 < imphasing_> :D 20:29 < linuxstb> I couldn't get that version of Mame working on my PC - so I just trusted that it worked, and ported it to Rockbox. 20:29 -!- sfate`Ct-R [i=tom@cpc3-asht2-6-0-cust77.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:30 < sfate`Ct-R> Hey there! 20:30 < imphasing_> ah.. 20:30 < imphasing_> I got it compiled fine, with X11, so I want to try it out 20:31 < BleuLlama> whoa 20:31 < imphasing_> It may be crippled though; I'll have to see 20:31 < BleuLlama> linuxstb: wantee mama 20:31 < BleuLlama> er 20:31 < BleuLlama> linuxstb: wantee mame 20:31 < imphasing_> haha 20:31 -!- SereRokR [n=Fletcher@Fcfe7.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:31 < BleuLlama> is it ported as a standalone app right now? 20:32 < linuxstb> No, it's a Rockbox plugin. 20:33 * jedix checks what channel he's in 20:33 < linuxstb> But it should be relatively easy to get working IPL - it's just a handful of functions you need to implement to port it to a new platform. 20:33 < imphasing_> Heh, easy for you.. 20:33 < imphasing_> =/ 20:34 < linuxstb> I'm happy to point you in the right direction. 20:34 < imphasing_> I might be able to figure it out 20:34 < imphasing_> but I'm not sure how I'm going to display the video.. 20:34 < BleuLlama> yeah. send it my way. i might be able to mash it into a pz2 module 20:34 < BleuLlama> or somesuch 20:35 < linuxstb> Just define a framebuffer array - "unsigned short framebuffer[320][240];" and then pass that to Josh's lcd update function he wrote in Hotdog. 20:35 < jedix> is there a page of what pz2 supports? 20:35 < BleuLlama> linuxstb: sure. 20:35 < imphasing_> linuxstb: Where is the raw data it's going to send though? 20:35 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FD45C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 20:36 < BleuLlama> linuxstb: did i miss the link to source? 20:36 < imphasing_> it's in unix.c somewhere I guess 20:36 < imphasing_> BleuLlama: There wasn't a link 20:36 < imphasing_> =/ 20:36 < linuxstb> No - I've got licensing issues.... 20:36 < BleuLlama> okay... 20:36 < linuxstb> What I'll do is to remove the rockbox parts, and upload a source that you can use to port to IPL - with comments instead of the Rockbox stuff. 20:36 < BleuLlama> you started with mame 0.18? did i read that right? 20:36 < linuxstb> Give me 5 minutes... 20:36 < BleuLlama> ok 20:37 < linuxstb> BleuLlama: Yes - that's the earliest version with bug-free pacman. 20:37 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 20:37 < imphasing_> Is there an open source pacman rom someone has made? 20:37 < BleuLlama> i was thinking about building/porting that myself 20:38 < BleuLlama> imphasing_: people have written license free stuff for it 20:38 < BleuLlama> i've got a few roms. 20:38 < imphasing_> ah.. 20:38 < BleuLlama> perhaps it's time for me to make my QuadBlok (tetris) standalone isntead of being in the menu system i wrote 20:39 < BleuLlama> http://www.widel.com -> click "downloads" 20:39 < BleuLlama> some games in there. :) 20:39 < imphasing_> ooh, cool 20:39 < imphasing_> thanks 20:39 < imphasing_> :) 20:40 < BleuLlama> http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/Software/homebrew/ 20:40 < BleuLlama> some of my stuff 20:40 < imphasing_> nifty.. 20:40 < BleuLlama> developer stuff: http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/Software/pengo/ 20:40 < imphasing_> I removed all non-pacman stuff from my build 20:40 < imphasing_> :) 20:40 < BleuLlama> huh? 20:40 < imphasing_> I wanted to make it simple 20:40 < BleuLlama> oh. from mame 018 20:40 < imphasing_> yeah 20:40 * BleuLlama grabs source 20:41 < imphasing_> It builds, and runs, but I don't have a rom to test it with 20:41 < BleuLlama> there you go 20:41 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-082-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:42 < imphasing_> those will run on a "pacman only' emulator? 20:42 < imphasing_> ah, yes.. 20:42 < BleuLlama> they should 20:43 < linuxstb> This is my "osdepend.c" (it replaces unix.c) - search for "TODO" in there and implement it for IPL. http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/osdepend.c 20:44 < linuxstb> The keyboard input requires you to check if a certain key is pressed without blocking. 20:45 < imphasing_> cool.. 20:46 < sfate`Ct-R> Where do I download this "doom2" thing? 20:46 < BleuLlama> i was actually thinking about making hacked versions of the pacman graphics roms, and the graphics driver to fit on smaller screens 20:46 < linuxstb> There is one function I haven't implemented (I just commented out the calls to it in other parts of mame) - osd_read_key. That's keyboard input which blocks, and is used for things like the DIP switch screen which I haven't implemented. 20:46 < BleuLlama> which i still might do 20:46 < linuxstb> Yes - that would be perfect for the ipods 20:46 < BleuLlama> linuxstb: gotcha. 20:47 -!- sfate`Ct-R is now known as Ct-R 20:47 < BleuLlama> there was a hacked pacman a while ago where someone did the opposite 20:47 < BleuLlama> instead of 8x8 sprites, it had 16x16 20:47 < linuxstb> I assume you've seen the 3D pacman which takes that to the limit. 20:47 < BleuLlama> yep. i used that for my menu system 20:47 < BleuLlama> lemme find links to that 20:48 < linuxstb> Pacifi3D 20:48 < BleuLlama> oh. 20:48 < linuxstb> http://pacifi3d.retrogames.com/pacifi3d/ 20:48 < BleuLlama> no. i thought you meant the romset that gives it a 3d look. not a full change. heh 20:49 -!- vincent55 [n=vincent@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:49 < BleuLlama> heh. that's awesome 20:49 < Ct-R> that's cool linuxstb 20:49 < linuxstb> A little much for the ipod though.... 20:49 < BleuLlama> heh. yeah 20:49 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-106-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 < BleuLlama> http://umlautllama.com/30in1/ 20:51 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@host-24-225-207-161.patmedia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 < Ct-R> Could somebody tell me where to get Doom2 from? 20:53 < courtc> no. 20:53 < Ct-R> ;[ 20:54 -!- Van [n=Van@host-24-225-207-161.patmedia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 < BleuLlama> this is strange 20:56 < imphasing_> ? 20:56 < BleuLlama> i grabbed mame 0.18, but the makefile and stuff says it's mame 0.81 20:56 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:56 < imphasing_> weird.. 20:56 < BleuLlama> does your makefile say that at the top too? 20:56 -!- Van is now known as Vanquisher 20:56 < imphasing_> yeah, it does 20:56 < imphasing_> I had to do some pretty big editing of my makefile 20:57 < imphasing_> but then again, I just wanted pacman 21:02 -!- stick_figure [n=stick_fi@dsl093-166-013.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:02 < BleuLlama> gotcha. if i'm gonna get this working, i want all of the games running from this version of mame 21:03 < BleuLlama> definitely pengo and pacman though 21:03 < imphasing_> yeah, good plan 21:03 < imphasing_> linuxstb: fb_data isn't a type on my system 21:03 < imphasing_> what did you use for that? 21:03 < imphasing_> =/ 21:03 < linuxstb> It's "unsigned short" 21:03 < imphasing_> ah 21:03 < linuxstb> It's the Rockbox type for framebuffer data 21:05 < imphasing_> DEBUGF and friends must be rockbox specific too? 21:05 < imphasing_> and LCD_RBGPACK 21:05 < imphasing_> s/RBG/RGB/ 21:07 < linuxstb> Yes. There is a "TODO" next to where LCD_RGBPACK is used. 21:07 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:11 < imphasing_> I get a few "assignment from incompatible pointer type" warnings, and a segfault when I build 21:11 < imphasing_> I'm not sure about the warnings though 21:11 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@host-24-225-207-161.patmedia.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:12 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:13 < linuxstb> It's always worthwhile to fix the warnings. I'm sure at least one or two will be bugs. 21:14 -!- Ct-R [i=tom@cpc3-asht2-6-0-cust77.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 21:15 -!- do_me_nice [n=do_me_ni@Toronto-HSE-ppp3860548.sympatico.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:15 < imphasing_> what cc did you use to compile? 21:15 < imphasing_> I get things like, error: "impossible constraint in `asm'" when I jsut use arm-uclinux-elf-gcc 21:16 < linuxstb> I'm using gcc 4.0.2 21:17 < imphasing_> what did you do about Z80CDx86.h? 21:17 < imphasing_> It looks like it defines some x86 asm instructions.. 21:18 < linuxstb> I deleted that file... 21:18 < linuxstb> Make sure it doesn't think it's compiling for X86. 21:19 < BleuLlama> i don't have the attention span for this right now 21:19 < BleuLlama> think i'll hack on more appearances or something 21:20 < imphasing_> linuxstb: But Z80.c includes that file.. 21:20 < imphasing_> It seems needed.. 21:20 < imphasing_> Oh, it's in an ifdef.. 21:21 < linuxstb> Exactly... 21:21 < linuxstb> Just delete the #ifdef and always include Z80Codes.h 21:21 < imphasing_> yeah 21:21 -!- Cillian is now known as Cillian_ 21:21 -!- Cillian_ is now known as Cillian 21:22 -!- Cillian is now known as Cillian_ 21:22 -!- Cillian_ is now known as Cillian 21:24 < imphasing_> How did you get it to not link with libX11.so? 21:24 < imphasing_> your unix.c removes all references to that.. 21:24 < imphasing_> Ah, I think it's in the makefile.. 21:27 -!- Shadowarrior13 [i=Shadowar@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:29 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:30 < imphasing_> What do you suppose, "BINFMT_FLAT: Bad magic/rev (0x1010161, need 0x4)" means? 21:31 < courtc> it's not a bFLT file 21:31 < courtc> bad format 21:31 < imphasing_> ah.. 21:31 < courtc> type: file 21:31 < linuxstb> You should look at a Makefile for an existing IPL application, and copy that. 21:32 < imphasing_> file says it's an ELF 32 bit LSB executable.. 21:33 < courtc> no -elf2flt ? 21:34 < imphasing_> oh.. 21:34 < imphasing_> I just have it using "arm-uclinux-elf-gcc" to compile 21:34 < imphasing_> with no options 21:35 < josh_> add -Wl,-elf2flt 21:35 < josh_> (that's one option) 21:35 < imphasing_> Ah.. 21:35 < imphasing_> That makes some errors for me to fix I guess 21:37 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-79.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:41 -!- erus` is now known as legolas 21:41 < imphasing_> linuxstb: Did you encounter a problem with uclock()? 21:41 < linuxstb> I didn't try - I used Rockbox's internal timer. 21:41 < linuxstb> But you can use the ipod's timer..... 21:41 -!- legolas is now known as erus 21:41 -!- erus is now known as erus` 21:41 -!- erus` [n=tom@AC8F20B6.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 21:42 -!- legolas [n=tom@AC8F20B6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 -!- legolas [n=tom@AC8F20B6.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:42 < linuxstb> #define USEC_TIMER (*(volatile unsigned long *)(0x60005010)) 21:42 -!- erus` [n=tom@AC8F20B6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 < linuxstb> You then use USEC_TIMER instead of uclock() - I think. 21:43 < imphasing_> ah, cool 21:43 < imphasing_> :) 21:43 < imphasing_> thanks 21:45 -!- paul_ [n=paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 21:50 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-bb-occam-3-ws-79.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 < imphasing_> Arg, still get the bad magic error.. 21:52 < imphasing_> Do I need to give my linker the -WL,-elf2flt option too? 21:52 < imphasing_> (which is just arm-uclinux-elf-gcc) 21:53 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/armemu/ (disasm.c execute.c): Be a bit less picky about MSR instrs. 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But that's how the manpage says to put your program in.. 22:15 < josh_> do valgrind ./mame 22:16 < imphasing_> ah.. 22:16 < imphasing_> "Address 0x82200A0 is not stack'd, malloc'd or (recently) free'd" 22:16 < imphasing_> Cool.. 22:17 < imphasing_> Is there a tool that will tell me what part of the program accesses that memory? 22:17 < josh_> look at the other output of valgrind 22:17 -!- vincent55 [n=vincent@bdv75-4-82-226-115-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 -!- DemonThing [n=nereid@S010600045a0b110f.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:18 < imphasing_> The function is __libc_start_main, but that can't be where the actual problem is.. 22:20 < linuxstb> You should try and get gdb working - it will save you a lot of time. 22:21 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:22 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-136-252-66.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:22 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/ttk/schemes/sttos.cs[+]: Atari ST TOS color scheme... (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/902) 22:26 < Shadowarrior13> bleullama has gone color scheme crazy! :P 22:27 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-132-142-156.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < imphasing_> linuxstb: Since the segfault is in a library that wasn't compiled with -g though, it won't tell anything 22:30 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-106-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:30 < linuxstb> imphasing_: In which case, just add some printf()s to mame to find out where it's crashing. 22:30 < imphasing_> Where is the main() function in mame? 22:31 < imphasing_> =/ 22:31 < linuxstb> mame.c IIRC 22:34 -!- chrisaw [n=chrisaw@host86-142-85-229.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:34 < chrisaw> hey folks =) 22:35 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:35 < chrisaw> Got an iPod Photo (4G) and it doesn't seem to want to be flashed by the iPod Updater tool, I figured this'd be a good place to seek help =) 22:35 < imphasing_> linuxstb: It segfaults before it even gets to main.. 22:35 < imphasing_> wtf? 22:36 < chrisaw> I got it on eBay knowing that it was dodgy, i don't believe it to he a hardware issue though 8-) 22:37 < imphasing_> I have a printf on the very first line of main(), and it segfaults before it gets to it. 22:40 -!- DemonThing` [n=nereid@S010600045a0b110f.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Success] 22:40 < imphasing_> and for some reason, this line creates a warning: 22:40 < imphasing_> if ((bm = malloc(width * height * sizeof(unsigned char))) == 0) 22:46 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 22:54 < vincent55> where can I find the history of the 5G lcd improvements so I can port them to ipodloader2 ? I can't recall where the tweaks were made... 22:54 < vincent55> which file was it ? 22:55 < aegray> fb.c 22:55 < aegray> and audio.c 22:55 < aegray> ipodlinux.org front page has links to cvs changes 22:57 < vincent55> why is there 2 bases ? 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