--- Log opened Thu Feb 09 00:00:01 2006 00:01 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:03 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:03 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@S01060050da742a74.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:04 < imphasing> Ok, time to port something semi-useful to the ipod. 00:04 < imphasing> Which BSD game do you guys want? 00:04 < imphasing> ;D 00:04 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:07 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:07 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@host-24-225-207-161.patmedia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:08 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:08 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 00:09 < BHSPitLappy> why not do something that utilizes that jvm stuff 00:09 < BHSPitLappy> or did he ever release it 00:09 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:09 < BHSPitLappy> oh...you weren't there 00:09 -!- tempo [n=tempo@12.184.59.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:09 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: "why not do something that utilizes that jvm stuff" "or did he ever release it" 00:10 < imphasing> cocao? 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 00:10 < imphasing> However you spell that.. 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> sounds right 00:10 < imphasing> I hate Java. 00:10 < imphasing> :( 00:11 < imphasing> and I don't think there's any graphical stuff yet. 00:11 < imphasing> Just SDL would be easier 00:11 < BHSPitLappy> a * * revolution game would be fun 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> not in pz2 though, since timing's important... :S 00:14 < imphasing> Is there a curses library for the ipod? 00:16 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-9760ed4c47e0526f] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:17 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-dae52efcd895e10c] has joined 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put a library in a module? 00:30 < imphasing> IE, something like ncurses.. 00:31 < imphasing> Ah, looks like ncurses isn't GPL, and I'd need to license it to run it on another platform.. 00:38 < linuxstb> imphasing: I'm sure the license is GPL-compatible though - meaning you can you it in a GPL'd application such as podzilla. 00:39 -!- zak-attack [n=zak-atta@67-136-35-151.dsl1.ogn.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:41 -!- zak-attack [n=zak-atta@67-136-35-151.dsl1.ogn.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #iPodLinux 00:43 < imphasing> Ah.. 00:48 -!- clsk [n=clsk@unaffiliated/clsk] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:54 < josh_> 14:46 < imphasing> josh_: The 5G broadcom chip has its own firmware, right? 00:54 < josh_> imphasing: yes 00:54 < josh_> 14:46 < imphasing> Is it possible to look at it to see how it works? 00:54 < josh_> imphasing: theoretically 00:54 < josh_> take the rsrc image, chop off the first 512 bytes, and mount it as FAT16 00:54 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@81.56.247.86] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:54 < josh_> 16:30 < imphasing> josh_: IS it possible to put a library in a module? 00:54 < josh_> imphasing: sure, take a look at libstdcxx 00:55 -!- Bi-noix [i=binoix@81.56.247.86] has joined #ipodlinux 00:57 < josh_> rmh3093: the hibe (ebih) image is created by the firmware when it goes to sleep 00:57 < josh_> you can simply ignore it, you don't need it - if it doesn't have one it'll just start up as usual. 00:57 < josh_> also, reverse the letters in those image names if you want something more intelligible :-) 00:58 < josh_> soso -> osos (the retailos), dpua -> aupd (Apple UPDate, the flash [encrypted]), crsr -> rsrc (resources), etc. 00:58 < josh_> and ebih -> hibe (hibrenate) 00:59 < BHSPitLappy> it sure would be interesting to let a unit go into deep sleep and wake it up into diskmode, and look at the contents of that then 00:59 < BHSPitLappy> well, maybe, maybe not 01:00 < josh_> it's just a RAM dump 01:00 < josh_> so it might very well be interesting 01:01 < BHSPitLappy> anyone willing to part with their ipod for 12 hr? :P 01:01 < BHSPitLappy> if not, I'll volunteer 01:02 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:02 < BHSPitLappy> but results wouldn't be back until 4pm tomorrow 01:02 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: I can use mine (a 5g) if I either (a) wake up at the crack of dawn to do iPL dev, or (b) wait until Saturday, or (c) don't listen to it on the bus tomorrow. 01:02 < BHSPitLappy> well 01:02 < BHSPitLappy> I can start before I go to bed, and then I'd do it when I get home from school 01:03 < josh_> that would be option (c) for me 01:03 < BHSPitLappy> but it could be worth doing yours too 01:03 < josh_> ok, I'll do mine 01:04 < BHSPitLappy> since 5G's are just magical pots of faeries :P 01:10 -!- oldschhool [n=customer@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #iPodLinux 01:10 < oldschhool> hello? 01:10 < oldschhool> hello 01:11 < BHSPitLappy> stfu and talk 01:11 < BHSPitLappy> (nobody question how much sense that made) 01:11 < oldschhool> were are the devs? 01:11 < BHSPitLappy> umm...devving 01:11 * josh_ raises hand 01:12 < oldschhool> it says there on, i am new to irc 01:12 < BHSPitLappy> if you could be half as useful as they are, you'd be able to spell "school" too 01:12 < josh_> 3 01:13 < josh_> ^ ign. 01:13 < BHSPitLappy> we know :D 01:13 < oldschhool> hey jish 01:13 < oldschhool> josh 01:13 < oldschhool> dament, my spelling bad 01:13 < oldschhool> uh, does anybody know if the triple boot this real 01:13 < josh_> "dament". yes, your spelling is indeed bad. 01:14 < josh_> "if the triple boot this real". your sentence no verb. 01:14 < oldschhool> by jon relay 01:14 < josh_> :-) 01:14 < oldschhool> is real, sry 01:14 < BHSPitLappy> josh serius? 01:14 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: yes I serious 01:15 < BHSPitLappy> o ya, jish always sirius 01:15 * BHSPitLappy 'll stop now 01:15 < BHSPitLappy> but jonrelay never made "triple boot"... 01:15 < BHSPitLappy> care to paste a link to whatever you're talking about? 01:15 < oldschhool> sure one sec 01:16 < oldschhool> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6712 01:16 < oldschhool> there it is 01:16 -!- Lex_ is now known as Lex 01:16 < BHSPitLappy> that's not "really" triple booting, that's just running three programs in linux 01:17 < BHSPitLappy> but yeah, it's perfectly possible 01:17 < oldschhool> so it basically installs pz2 01:17 < oldschhool> wow 01:17 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 < rmh3093> joshk: dd if=/ipodlinux/restore/backup/crsr of=image.bin skip=512 01:18 < rmh3093> would that chop off the first 512 01:18 < josh_> ^ no k. 01:18 < josh_> yes, that would. 01:18 < rmh3093> i tried mounting that as loop and it failed 01:18 < josh_> then mkdir rsrc && mount -t vfat -o loop image.bin rsrc 01:19 < josh_> ok 01:19 < josh_> file /ipodlinux/restore/backup/crsr image.bin 01:19 < josh_> what does that print? 01:19 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:19 < linuxstb> rmh3093: You want "bs=512 skip=1" 01:19 < rmh3093> or bs=1 skip=512 01:19 < rmh3093> i forgot about the bs part 01:19 < linuxstb> But that would be very slow.... 01:20 < josh_> ah wait 01:20 < josh_> try bs=512 skip=1, yeah. 01:20 < josh_> bs=1 skip=512 would be much, much slower. 01:20 < rmh3093> that worked 01:20 < josh_> cool, did it mount? 01:21 < rmh3093> yeah 01:21 < rmh3093> there is all sort of nice goodies in there 01:21 < imphasing> :D 01:21 < josh_> ok, the firmware for the video is in Resources/VideoCore/Boot 01:22 < josh_> and some modules are in Resources/VideoCore/Library 01:22 < rmh3093> yeah i see it 01:22 < rmh3093> you want me to export all that 01:22 < rmh3093> and send it to u 01:22 < rmh3093> you 01:22 < josh_> nope, I've already got it. 01:22 < rmh3093> oh ;) 01:22 < rmh3093> nice 01:22 < imphasing> josh_: Has it been useful? 01:22 < josh_> in fact, I think aegray has a disassembly somewhere 01:22 < josh_> imphasing: nope, I haven't looked into it, mainly because I don't know ARC ASM :-) 01:23 < oldschhool> uh wait, not to intrude but ar eyou guys working on boot for the video, just wondering, i got photo :) 01:24 < BHSPitLappy> the video boots. 01:24 < BHSPitLappy> if you're referring to the 5G iPod, that is 01:24 < oldschhool> oh cool, i wish i could help out 01:26 < rmh3093> josh_: can the apple_os.bin be mount that same way? by chopping that 512 01:26 < josh_> no 01:26 < josh_> it's not a filesystem 01:27 < josh_> it's a raw ARM binary 01:28 < oldschhool> for the video I heard there could not be 3d, is the video powerful enough to render that? 01:28 < BHSPitLappy> heh, that would be quite interesting, wouldn't it 01:28 < BHSPitLappy> (@rmh) 01:29 < rmh3093> ? 01:29 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: ping 01:31 -!- oldschhool [n=customer@d47-69-36-91.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:32 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: the podzillanano guy is in japan, right 01:32 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: we think 01:32 < BHSPitLappy> a rockbox channel member can make cheap calls to japan :D 01:44 < BleuLlama> i've got a bunch of skype out minutes i need to use before the end of march. ;) 01:44 < BHSPitLappy> sweet 01:44 < BHSPitLappy> go for it! 01:45 < BleuLlama> nah 01:45 < imphasing> BHSPitLappy: pong? 01:46 < imphasing> BleuLlama: I was going to look into that..I hate using my cell phone.. 01:46 < imphasing> Mostly because the service here sucks 01:47 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: this was pretty much the topic 01:47 < BHSPitLappy> I pung you because you were the one that declared a state of erin brockovich on the dude 01:48 < imphasing> Ah. 01:49 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 02:10 < davidc__> state of erin brockovich? 02:11 < davidc__> I thought it was a state of total war? 02:12 < imphasing> I didn't get that either, but I ignored it. 02:12 < imphasing> :P 02:14 < imphasing> Hmm... For $40 more, I get an ipod video, and I can work on developing in that scene, or I can be cheap and buy a color 4G.. 02:14 < imphasing> Decisions, decisions.. 02:20 < boss429> i'd go for the video :P 02:20 < boss429> bigger screen, extra 10gb 02:23 < imphasing> But $40... 02:23 < imphasing> :( 02:23 < BleuLlama> $40 is worth it, so you don't gripe about making the wrong decision 02:23 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:24 < imphasing> Yeah, that's probably true.. 02:24 < imphasing> But I hate spending money on technology.. 02:24 < imphasing> It's never an "investment" 02:25 < BleuLlama> i meant to say "gripe in here" 02:25 < BleuLlama> at us 02:25 < BleuLlama> ;) 02:25 < imphasing> Yeah, I knew that. 02:25 < imphasing> But I decided to ignore that. 02:25 < imphasing> And pretend that it was directed at my own well-being. 02:25 < BleuLlama> ;) 02:25 < imphasing> :P 02:36 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: never seen the movie? 02:38 < BHSPitLappy> and if I could turn back time, I'd probably get a 5G instead of a nano... I ordered it in the period of time where the nano was out but the video wasn't announced 02:38 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 02:38 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:41 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 -!- Fruitw00t [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 -!- Fruitw00t [n=fruitwoo@modemcable241.202-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:45 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@70.130.102.1] has joined #ipodlinux 02:46 < ssstormy> to install ipodlinux on a 5th gen ipod, do I need to do any special hacking, or can I just use CVS and have regular support? 02:47 < ssstormy> well, not regular support, but have it work just with CVS? 02:48 < BHSPitLappy> i believe there's a wiki page that describes installing on the 5g 02:48 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:49 < BHSPitLappy> and you'd just use a daily build of the kernel, but there's some extra stuff you need to do to assemble your firmware 02:51 < ssstormy> BHSPitLappy, thanks! any idea of where the page is? 02:51 < BHSPitLappy> somewhere very near the button that says [Search] ;) 02:52 -!- Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 02:52 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 < ssstormy> k, thanks XD 02:53 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@70.130.102.1] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:54 < rmh3093> on the wiki go to documentation 02:54 < rmh3093> and the link to 5g is near the top there 02:54 < rmh3093> in the TOC 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> (I think he left.) 02:57 -!- ryanshan [n=tshannah@S0106000fb56221a5.fm.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 -!- ryanshan [n=tshannah@S0106000fb56221a5.fm.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:03 -!- MoeWong [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:04 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:05 -!- MoeWong is now known as Nam-Ereh-Won 03:05 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@70.130.102.1] has joined #ipodlinux 03:07 -!- Silviu [n=Silviu@d206-116-215-39.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #iPodLinux 03:09 -!- Silviu [n=Silviu@d206-116-215-39.bchsia.telus.net] has left #iPodLinux ["Leaving"] 03:14 < BHSPitLappy> twisti: ping 03:14 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:17 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@70.130.102.1] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 03:18 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:18 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:21 -!- EvilDude [n=prashant@CPE-60-225-204-122.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:23 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:24 -!- EvilDude [n=prashant@CPE-60-225-204-122.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 03:25 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:35 -!- TermaKill [n=TermaKil@24-113-23-67.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:35 < TermaKill> hello 03:36 < TermaKill> is the cvs make_fw broken or something? 03:36 < BHSPitLappy> why? 03:36 < BHSPitLappy> and it shouldn't be 03:36 < TermaKill> i can only boot linux 03:37 < ai2097> TermaKill: Generation, out of curiosity? 03:37 < TermaKill> mini 03:37 < TermaKill> 1g 03:38 < ai2097> Mmm. At one point I managed to have that happen to my 4g, but it may or may not be related. 03:38 < TermaKill> ya its weird 03:38 < TermaKill> never had that happen before 03:40 < ai2097> Did it used to boot into both OSs just fine? 03:40 < TermaKill> yep 03:40 < ai2097> Same here. 03:40 < TermaKill> Is there another place where I can get the make_fw? 03:40 < ai2097> Did you, perchance, get a series of wierd beeps followed by a blank screen on one boot up attempt before this started happening? 03:41 < TermaKill> no,but it was acting really slow 03:41 < ai2097> Mmm. Have you tried holding each one of the directions (up/left/down/right) during boot up? 03:42 < TermaKill> i have tried it all 03:42 < TermaKill> :( 03:42 < ai2097> Well, mine eventually re-booted into retailos after about 5 tries... 03:42 < ai2097> But at that point, I restored my backup to the disk and haven't had ipl installed since. 03:43 < TermaKill> ya,thats what im about to do until I feel like trying it again 03:43 < TermaKill> thanks for the help ai2097 03:43 < TermaKill> cya later 03:43 -!- TermaKill [n=TermaKil@24-113-23-67.wavecable.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:44 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bcf48a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 03:47 -!- DemonThing` [i=nereid@S01060050da742a74.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:48 -!- DemonThing [i=nereid@S01060050da742a74.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:49 -!- Gent [n=gent@c-24-128-57-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:50 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:52 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:53 < rmh3093> whats in the dpua image? 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> dpua = apua = APple UPdate 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> :) 03:55 < rmh3093> yeah i know thats what is stands for 03:55 < rmh3093> but on the wiki 03:55 < rmh3093> it says there is a bootloader in there 03:55 < rmh3093> and updates for diskmore and diag mode 03:57 -!- DemonThing` [i=nereid@S01060050da742a74.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:57 < BHSPitLappy> what's a hex dump tell you? 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> do you think it automatically writes changes to that image? 03:58 < rmh3093> what? 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> if you modified that image, do you think the ipod would flash it 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> i know nobody in their right mind would, but still 03:59 < BHSPitLappy> would be funny to change the Do Not Disconnect string :P 03:59 < rmh3093> oh i have already done that 03:59 < rmh3093> that is easy 03:59 < rmh3093> oh wait 03:59 < rmh3093> never mind 04:00 < rmh3093> i can change the retailos do not disconnect 04:00 < rmh3093> but not the portalplayer diskmode 04:00 < rmh3093> i dont think you can change that one 04:00 < rmh3093> but maybe 04:01 < BHSPitLappy> that's why I said to look at the image's hex :) 04:01 < BHSPitLappy> my retailos is already vigorously modded 04:03 < rmh3093> supposedly that file is encoded on the 5g 04:04 < ai2097> 4g too, AFAIK 04:07 * BHSPitLappy has a nano 04:07 < BHSPitLappy> lol, a dell support rep actually used the word "coz" in a chat 04:08 < rmh3093> haha 04:09 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: C'mon... if they're working dell support, they can't be -that- bright to start off with ;p 04:09 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:11 < rmh3093> BHSPitLappy: if make_fw can extract the retailos.bin from the dd of /dev/sda1, why cant it take take a newer verison retailos.bin and stick it back into the dd image? 04:12 < BHSPitLappy> do I look like a dev? 04:12 < BHSPitLappy> :) 04:12 < rmh3093> u always have some input 04:12 < rmh3093> you 04:12 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: You're just fishing in hopes that the answer is "yes," aren't you ;)? 04:12 < BHSPitLappy> you're requesting output :P 04:13 < BHSPitLappy> uhh sure 04:13 < rmh3093> the ? is open to anyone 04:13 < BHSPitLappy> and I'm sure if you looked at the code, the modification wouldn't be impossible 04:14 < ai2097> rmh3093: Let me make sure I understand your scenario... 04:14 < rmh3093> my c knowledge is very half assed 04:15 < rmh3093> make_fw as of right now can extract all the images from a dump of an origional ipod or from a firmware file extracted from ipodupdater.exe 04:15 < rmh3093> i was thinking 04:16 < rmh3093> make_fw could be modified 04:16 < ai2097> You have an iPod with retailos version X. You have Apple's updater software, which contains retailos version Y. You're trying to extract Y from Apple's updater, and then flash it onto your iPod? 04:16 < rmh3093> flash/dump yeah basically the same thing 04:17 < ai2097> All right. How did you get the image for Y from Apple's updater? 04:17 < BHSPitLappy> does ipodedit not do this job? 04:17 < rmh3093> yeah it does 04:17 < rmh3093> if you have the .exe verison 04:17 < rmh3093> or you can get the mac verison 04:18 < BHSPitLappy> huh 04:18 < BHSPitLappy> it's made for linux 04:18 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:18 < rmh3093> yeah 04:19 < rmh3093> but it extracts from the win32 updater 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> no it doesn't... 04:19 < rmh3093> yeah it can 04:19 < BHSPitLappy> "PodWizard changes the updater instead of changing the firmware on the device itself. There should not be an issue of figuring out the right firmware to change with ipodedit as you can change the iPod directly." 04:20 < rmh3093> right 04:20 < rmh3093> but 04:20 < rmh3093> ipodedit still can extract the firmware image from the win32 updater 04:21 < rmh3093> you can download the mac dmg installer 04:21 < rmh3093> and use the dmg2iso script 04:21 < rmh3093> mount the iso as a hfs partition 04:21 < rmh3093> and the firmwares are in there also 04:23 < ai2097> If I had to take a guess, I'd say you got a bad firmware image out of whatever executable you skimmed, and make_fw is correctly saving your ass from installing it. 04:24 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:25 < rmh3093> NO.... because i can you ipodload2 to boot different version retailos which i extracted that way 04:25 < rmh3093> they work 04:25 < ai2097> For example, if the firmware's packed/scrambled/otherwise mangled, and the updater un-mangles it before sending. 04:25 < ai2097> Well, what is make_fw complaining about, then? 04:26 < rmh3093> ai2097: i dont want to use the ipodloader, im trying to update a stock ipod fw though linux 04:26 < rmh3093> make_fw is not complaing 04:26 < rmh3093> you arent listening or dont getit 04:26 < ai2097> " make_fw can extract the retailos.bin from the dd of /dev/sda1, why cant it take take a newer verison retailos.bin and stick it back into the dd image?" 04:26 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:27 < rmh3093> the first think when i got my ipod was back it up using dd 04:27 < rmh3093> that is what make_fw looks in 04:28 < rmh3093> retailos is at 0x4200+0x200+0x200 04:28 < rmh3093> so i want to replace the contents of that back up from that point 04:28 < rmh3093> with a NEW fw version 04:28 < rmh3093> it should be possible 04:30 < ai2097> I don't see how it's not, using -i. 04:30 < ai2097> However, I have to catch a bus. Back in an hour and a half. 04:30 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has quit ["Bus"] 04:35 < BHSPitLappy> you've tried generating the firmware using make_fw -g (gen) -o (output) -i apple_os.bin (your loader image) 04:35 < BHSPitLappy> and it didn't like it? 04:35 < rmh3093> yeah when i substitute dpua image for the loader image 04:36 < rmh3093> it just sits at the apple 04:36 < rmh3093> it dosnt go to the error screen 04:36 < rmh3093> it just sits there 04:36 < rmh3093> forever 04:49 < BHSPitLappy> what's a comparison from your generated image to the dd image look like? 04:49 < BHSPitLappy> is one bigger/smaller? 04:49 < BHSPitLappy> yours should be smaller, since it's missing the rcsc or etc 04:50 < BHSPitLappy> try something: do it again, only pick 5G, and have the rcsc image in the directory 04:50 < BHSPitLappy> so build it like a 5G, where it requires the rcsc in there 04:50 < BHSPitLappy> just for giggles :) 04:50 < BHSPitLappy> rmh3093: ping 04:53 < rmh3093> oops 04:54 < BHSPitLappy> I'm interested to know if that works 04:54 < rmh3093> that is how i had been doing it 04:54 < rmh3093> like a normal 5g install 04:54 < rmh3093> but i been changing the loader.bin 04:54 < rmh3093> to various things 04:56 < rmh3093> usually when a make_fw goes bad I get that folder that says to go to ipodsupport 04:57 < BHSPitLappy> for what device? 04:58 < rmh3093> huh 04:58 < BHSPitLappy> what's your ipod 04:58 < rmh3093> video 04:58 < BHSPitLappy> oh 04:58 < BHSPitLappy> :P 04:59 < BHSPitLappy> you really need to call in the greater minds for this, anyone with an @ by their name :P 04:59 < BHSPitLappy> (and josh of course) 04:59 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-132-137-108.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:06 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-249-95.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:09 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:10 -!- greenlase [n=greenlas@cpe-72-130-28-69.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:13 -!- greenlase [n=greenlas@cpe-72-130-28-69.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:13 -!- greenlase [n=greenlas@cpe-72-130-28-69.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:16 -!- greenlase [n=greenlas@cpe-72-130-28-69.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:34 * tarpman nominates BHSPitLappy for an @, or at least a + 05:34 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 05:34 < BHSPitLappy> random nonsense 05:34 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: very few of us keep @ in the channel 05:35 < josh_> davidc__ and leachbj are the only ones, I believe 05:35 < josh_> er... 05:35 < BHSPitLappy> I don't deserve one :D 05:35 < josh_> a quick look at /names shows that's not actually the case. 05:35 < BHSPitLappy> the only @'s in here actually know shit 05:35 < Luke> courtc: i'll look into that link you postex 05:35 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:38 < courtc> Luke: ok, cool. I think vet was goiing to look at it tonight as well... 05:39 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:41 < Luke> courtc: actually that would be better... i'm bogged down as hell right now with CS work 05:41 < blake_> it'll have to be delayed until tommorrow sometime, but looks like it's doable 05:41 < courtc> Ah, alright. np 05:41 < Luke> during the school years actually: busy as hell =) 05:41 < blake_> exhausted :/ 05:41 < courtc> cool. 05:41 < courtc> thanks guys. 05:41 < Luke> if I get any chance at all though, i'll look at it. iPL is a good break sometimes 05:42 < Luke> np 05:42 < Luke> how is everyone btw? 05:42 < courtc> doing well. 05:42 < BHSPitLappy> blake_: non-standard nicks scare me ;) 05:42 < blake_> just don't look at the forums and you'll be fine 05:42 < courtc> haha 05:42 < BHSPitLappy> that's good advice, there 05:42 -!- blake_ is now known as noobinator 05:42 < BHSPitLappy> add 10 years to your life easy 05:43 < Luke> this is what I just turned in 45 min ago: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cs251/lab3/ 05:43 < BHSPitLappy> noobinator: much better 05:43 < noobinator> i'm a friend of sarah connor 05:43 < BHSPitLappy> Luke: is Implementa a word? 05:43 < Luke> the prof is spanish 05:43 < Luke> haha 05:43 < BHSPitLappy> ah 05:43 < BHSPitLappy> lol 05:43 < Luke> he probably thinks it is 05:43 < BHSPitLappy> that was my first guess 05:44 < noobinator> queuse? 05:44 < BHSPitLappy> but I noticed every other word is english 05:44 < Luke> "da booble soort" 05:44 < Luke> priority queue for the first part, then a heap and bubble sort for the second in C++ and then rewrite it in java for the 3rd 05:44 < Luke> in 3 days 05:45 < Luke> its kinda ridiculous if your taking 18 credit hours =) 05:45 < courtc> mergesort on linked list > * 05:45 < Luke> right now i'm drinking by myself to celebrate 05:45 < courtc> YAY! 05:45 < Luke> merge sort in a few weeks! 05:45 < Luke> haha 05:46 < Luke> when I got home, there was alchohol all over my room because my roommates mom is coming so he hid all the beverages in my room 05:46 < josh_> haha 05:46 < Luke> i wasnt planning on drinking but it was like a sign 05:46 < courtc> hahaha 05:46 < Luke> the rum all over my desk.... i couldnt even see my screen 05:47 < Luke> its such a mind fuck to write a program in C and then you have an hour left to rewrite it in OOP/java 05:47 < Luke> Mind.fuck() 05:48 < noobinator> ; 05:48 < Luke> you missed the point of mind fuck! 05:48 < Luke> haha 05:48 -!- noobinator is now known as veteran 05:49 < josh_> mf.cc:10: error: no matching function for call to `Mind::fuck()' 05:49 < josh_> mf.cc:4: note: candidates are: void Mind::fuck(Mind::FMode) 05:49 < josh_> mf.cc:5: note: void Mind::fuck(Mind&) 05:49 < josh_> :P 05:49 < Luke> haha 05:49 < boss429> interesting name for a function 05:49 < Luke> fuck. 05:49 < veteran> turn that one in. 05:49 < Luke> haha 05:49 < Luke> you should see my debug comments 05:50 < veteran> rum-inspired? 05:50 < Luke> TA's grade our code so we have things tha tpeople shouldnt see 05:50 < josh_> hrm? 05:50 < Luke> swearing 05:50 < Luke> haha 05:50 < josh_> ah haha 05:50 < Luke> =p 05:50 < veteran> oh, i thought you were hinting towards provocative ascii art 05:51 < courtc> void *i_fucking_hate_void_pointers(void *damn_void_pointers_go_to_hell) 05:51 < josh_> hahaha 05:51 < Luke> courtc: the whole thing was void poitners 05:51 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has joined #ipodlinux 05:51 < Luke> i just love doing void pointer arith like this: (char*)array + (i * elementSize) 05:52 < Luke> it makes for pretty code 05:52 < josh_> or even better 05:52 < josh_> return (void *)((u8 *)mach->iram + (paddr - mach->irambase)); 05:52 * courtc loveth pointers 05:52 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/iram.c 05:52 < Luke> hahaha we were doing stuff like that too 05:52 < veteran> yikes 6 minutes left on battery, night all. 05:53 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:53 < Luke> haha and for all the dumbasses that said we'd never have to write code like that 05:53 < Luke> sex-ie 05:56 < josh_> or... return (void *)((*(ulong *)(0xffc00000 | (((ulong)virt & 0xffc00000) >> 10) | (((ulong)virt & 0x003ff000) >> 10)) & ~0xfff) + ((ulong)virt & 0xfff)); 05:56 < josh_> (Don't ask.) 05:56 < ai2097> We seem to have lost iplbot. 05:56 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:57 < josh_> `join #ipodlinux-dev 05:57 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["*poof*"] 05:57 < josh_> `join #ipodlinux.flood 05:57 < josh_> `join #ipodlinux.help 05:57 < josh_> ok, he's back 05:57 < ai2097> Great :) 05:58 < BHSPitLappy> ipodlinux is such an empire 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: if it's possible to disable deep sleep, shouldn't it be possible to induce it? 06:00 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: not really 06:00 < ai2097> If only control registers worked like that... :p. 06:00 < josh_> the disabling only works because there's a file that the Apple firmware checks before going to sleep 06:00 < josh_> in iPod_Control 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> oh 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> the 'disable caching' hack also works in a similarly unimpressive way? 06:01 < josh_> believe so 06:01 < josh_> along with "Battery Toggle [AF]" 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> it takes the place of the time 06:03 < BHSPitLappy> (when the time's enabled) 06:08 < ai2097> I keep hearing mention of USB, with hints of getting the controller in host-side mode... is there actually enough information available for that to even be feasible? Is someone working on it? 06:38 < BHSPitLappy> 30 minutes since the conversation died of sudden heart failure 06:41 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-132-137-108.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:41 -!- oga [n=oga@220-253-95-62.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:42 < oga> i've got podzilla working sweet work if any of the dev's are in here appreciated 06:42 < BHSPitLappy> oh they are 06:43 < BHSPitLappy> and when they wake up that'll put a smile on their faces :) 06:44 < oga> i'm fairly new to linux 06:44 < oga> but am constantly surprised at what people can accomplish 06:44 < oga> (if they put their heads together) 06:45 < oga> quickie... how do you boot to the original apple os? (linux defaulted) 06:45 < BHSPitLappy> a lot better than the ones on a salary, right ;) 06:46 < BHSPitLappy> what model? 06:46 < oga> 4g 06:46 < BHSPitLappy> hold << on boot 06:46 < oga> that's what i though 06:46 < oga> thought 06:46 < BHSPitLappy> starting as early as possible 06:46 < BHSPitLappy> I wouldn't default to linux, too 06:46 < BHSPitLappy> you might end up with a dead battery somewhere 06:46 < oga> k 06:47 < oga> I might change it 06:47 < oga> btw << does not seem to work 06:47 < BHSPitLappy> then reinstall 06:47 < BHSPitLappy> I'm out >>> shower 06:47 < oga> thanks anyways 06:48 < BHSPitLappy> also try booting with the hold switch on 06:54 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-132-137-108.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:58 * BHSPitLappy back 07:05 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACD8C5CB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:08 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-dae52efcd895e10c] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:10 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-831e51993689debd] has joined #ipodlinux 07:41 -!- fo [n=brianmun@S01060011952ced7f.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #iPodLinux 07:41 < fo> hey guys 07:42 < fo> aegray 07:42 < fo> finist writing the linux? 07:42 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-122-192.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:42 < BHSPitLappy> ............... 07:43 < fo> lol 07:43 < fo> its you 07:43 < fo> is anyone here? 07:44 -!- F-F_[hmf] [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:44 < ai2097> Nope. 07:45 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:47 -!- fo [n=brianmun@S01060011952ced7f.vs.shawcable.net] has quit [] 08:02 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-136-248-66.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:04 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-132-137-108.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:10 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:14 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-146-247.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:16 -!- ssstormy [n=sliverst@ppp-71-139-122-192.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:20 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-248-198.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:26 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:29 -!- Cillian__ [n=cillian@host86-136-250-95.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:30 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 08:32 < twisti> BHSPitLappy, pong 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> erm, hehe 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> my friend had some questions he wanted to ask, but that was a long time ago :P 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> something like, can cacao run basically anything his java terminal on his desktop could run, without additional libraries (except system, of course) 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> if I remember his wording correctly. 08:35 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:35 < twisti> BHSPitLappy, well, if it's text only, no gui, yes 08:35 < twisti> except two things: 08:36 < twisti> 1. threads are disabled 08:36 -!- Paltsu [n=hautamak@dsl-jklgw4-fe90f800-48.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #iPodLinux 08:36 < twisti> 2. gc is disabled (curreently) 08:36 < BHSPitLappy> i'll remember to tell him that, thanks 08:36 < twisti> np 08:36 < twisti> but i should get boehm-gc working 08:37 < BHSPitLappy> i honestly don't know the first thing when it comes to java. 08:37 < twisti> do pthreads work on the ipod? 08:37 * BHSPitLappy hides from the question 08:37 < BHSPitLappy> all the devs are sleeping :) 08:38 < BHSPitLappy> as I should be... 08:38 < twisti> hehe 08:39 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-136-248-66.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:40 -!- jfnicolas [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:41 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: What are you talking about? Devs aren't allowed to sleep. Sleep interferes with work! 08:42 < BHSPitLappy> ok 08:42 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-248-198.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:47 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@medea03.gchemie.uni-jena.de] has joined #iPodLinux 08:48 -!- jfnicola1 [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:58 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-251-194.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:04 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 09:05 -!- jfnicolas [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:12 -!- twisti is now known as twisti_home 09:13 -!- hrushikesh [n=hrushike@ns.cmi.ac.in] has joined #ipodlinux 09:13 -!- hrushikesh is now known as rockhopper 09:14 < rockhopper> Hi 09:18 < rockhopper> I have already posted this question in the forums, but nobody has replied so far : 09:18 < rockhopper> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6003 09:19 < rockhopper> Could somebody answer it here? 09:20 -!- Cillian__ [n=cillian@host86-136-250-95.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:23 < BHSPitLappy> hmm never ran into that problem before 09:24 < BHSPitLappy> you could probably make a script that recursively chmod's all the files, and then run it from ipodlinux 09:24 < BHSPitLappy> dunno what that would do to screw things up, though 09:24 < rockhopper> The thing is, I dont have root priviliges, so I cannot even chmod then 09:24 < rockhopper> them* 09:25 < rockhopper> Oh ok! 09:25 < rockhopper> sorry... 09:25 < rockhopper> Let me try that.... 09:25 < BHSPitLappy> like i said 09:25 < BHSPitLappy> don't blame me if it screws something up in iPL 09:26 < ai2097> Well, you aren't going to be able to chmod it to the user you are on that one Debian box, unless you go by UID directly. 09:26 < ai2097> Even then, UIDs are non-portable; move to a different box, and you're back at square one. 09:27 < ai2097> The other option is to make them all world read/write-able, but that means anyone else stumbling into the mounted directory will be able to screw with the files. 09:27 < BHSPitLappy> yeah i didn't think it was that simple either 09:27 < ai2097> pmount has a umask setting. I'd say try that. 09:27 < BHSPitLappy> if he leaves his ipod plugged into a public computer unattended...that's a different story 09:28 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: All the lab machines I deal with allow multiple logins via SSH. You can be sitting at the hard terminal, but other users can be on the box simultaneously. 09:29 < BHSPitLappy> oh 09:30 < BHSPitLappy> seems like asking your admin to chmod is the answer 09:30 < ai2097> Not really. 09:31 < ai2097> You can chmod to your UID (not your username), but it's not going to be portable if you go somewhere where your UID is different. 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> he could have scripts on the ipod for each uid he uses 09:32 < ai2097> *ix UID/GIDs are almost totally pointless on removable storage. 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> or, a script just for when he needs access on that computer 09:32 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: And how would he run said scripts unless they... OMG... 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> ai2097: not when the removable storage is able to run software on itself 09:33 < ai2097> Can you say "root" in one easy step XD 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> no 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> i studder 09:34 < ai2097> Use the startfile to create a SUID script that runs /bin/bash for you :p. 09:36 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: Studder? What is that? Stuttering and shuddering at the same time? 09:37 < BHSPitLappy> exactly 09:37 < BHSPitLappy> I think rockhopper died. 09:37 * ai2097 hides the shovel 09:38 < ai2097> Wasn't me. 09:38 < ai2097> He's probably off madly chmodding :p. 09:39 < rockhopper> hehe, no I am still here...thanks for the help guys! 09:41 < ai2097> Ah, no, pmount is smart. It puts in the nosuid when mounting. 09:44 < ai2097> At least mine does with the FAT part of my IPOD. But then, FAT isn't exactly a permissions-enabled filesystem :p. 09:45 * ai2097 remembers he's sitting right next to a USB 2.0 enclosure with a reiserfs-formatted, 160GB drive in it... 09:48 -!- linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb 09:49 -!- rockhopper [n=hrushike@ns.cmi.ac.in] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 09:51 < ai2097> BHSPitLappy: The "removable storage" isn't *removable* to the processer that's embedded on it. 09:54 < ai2097> If I yanked the HD out of one of my Linux boxes at home, put it in an enclosure and hooked it up to a *ix box somwhere else, the UIDs/GIDs would all translate to either numbers or the wrong user. That's essentially what you're doing when you mount iPL's root on a computer. The only reason it's not so glaringly wrong is because root almost always has UID/GID of 0, and all the files on the root filesystem are owned by root. 09:58 < ai2097> Very annoying, complex systems have been set up to solve this problem. YP/NIS and LDAP are two platforms that help store the information locally; Linux's C-library and nsswitch.conf handle integrating all these disparate services. 09:58 < ai2097> It is, in a word, nightmarish. 09:59 < ai2097> The fact that pmount doesn't automatically override the UID/GID to that of the mounting user is extremely irritating. 10:05 < ai2097> s/locally/centrally/ 10:05 < aegray_> you people are always up 10:05 < aegray_> god 10:05 -!- aegray_ is now known as aegray 10:07 < ai2097> aegray: Sleep is for the week (sic). 10:08 < aegray> maybe 10:09 < aegray> but i like doing it :) 10:10 -!- MOoG_87 [i=SlashIRC@host41-145.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 10:10 * aegray takes a stab at calculus and cuts himself 10:10 < MOoG_87> hi all 10:10 < aegray> hi 10:12 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-831e51993689debd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:12 * ai2097 pokes at streamripper on the NSLU2, and fantasizes about host-side USB + a USB network card + streamripper on an iPod... 10:12 < aegray> hehe 10:13 < ai2097> Drop it on the network... have it automatically start downloading streams... would kill the battery fast as all hell, though. 10:14 -!- jfnicolas [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:14 < ai2097> I really, really wish they had included a dedicated power port. 10:18 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:18 < aegray> i wish they included a portable toilet 10:20 < ai2097> Well, may as well throw in a pony, I guess :p. 10:21 < ai2097> I wish it had been the same electronics as the Karma, only with Apple's shell and electromechanicals! 10:22 < aegray> is the karma any good? 10:24 < ai2097> The Karma was great, save for a few fatal misfeatures :p. 10:25 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:25 < aegray> anyone have an idea on how to integrate sin(something*x)*sin(somethingelse*x)? 10:26 * ai2097 laughs 10:26 * aegray hasn't taken a real math class in several years and forgot all 10:26 < ai2097> I can barely remember which way is the derivative, and which way is the integral :p. 10:27 < aegray> yea...me too 10:27 < aegray> why am i taking this class 10:27 < aegray> :P 10:27 < ai2097> Clearly, you're masochistic ;) 10:27 < aegray> haha yes - its not even required 10:27 < aegray> luckily the drop deadline is march 10 10:27 < aegray> so i have a while to decide 10:27 -!- jfnicola1 [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:32 < ai2097> Yeah, but drops waste money and time. 10:32 < aegray> its a flat rate tuition afaik 10:32 < aegray> time = true 10:32 < aegray> but its worth a try 10:32 -!- quobl [n=quobl@tor/session/x-c4076ccb8fd118bc] has joined #ipodlinux 10:32 < aegray> i'm not planning on dropping - just saying that if i have an F by the drop date, i'll get rid of it 10:35 -!- MOoG_87 [i=SlashIRC@host41-145.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has quit [] 10:43 * ai2097 nods 11:08 -!- ai2097 [n=ai2097@pdpc/supporter/active/ai2097] has quit ["Quitting"] 11:23 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-136-248-124.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:32 -!- intim_ [i=UNKNOWN@d041138.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:36 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-251-194.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:41 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:47 -!- intim [i=UNKNOWN@d066252.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:55 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:55 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:59 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-138-89-111-240.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:19 -!- kashi [n=KK@227.179.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 12:36 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:37 -!- jfnicola1 [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:39 -!- Cillian [n=cillian@host86-136-248-238.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:51 -!- jfnicolas [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:01 -!- Cillian_ [n=cillian@host86-136-248-124.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Success] 13:08 -!- oga [n=oga@220-253-95-62.QLD.netspace.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:08 -!- FarSide79 [i=FarSide7@tilapia.cc.vt.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 13:08 < FarSide79> mornin...neone runnin idoom in here? 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13:56 * BleuLlama remembers learning implicit differentiation. no f'ing clue how to do it anymore 13:58 * rmh3093 is sad and pissed..... just found out my new laptop is on backorder till the 15th or 21st :( 14:02 < FarSide79> apple? 14:03 -!- jfnicolas [n=jfnicola@lec67-1-81-56-105-26.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:03 < rmh3093> naaa its an Acer Duo Core 2Ghz, 2gig mem, 120gig hd, some ATI card with 256mb of mem, 15.4" LCD @ 1680x1050 14:05 < C-Otto> core duo 14:06 < C-Otto> dual core rocks 14:06 < C-Otto> but my opteron would not fit inside that notebook case i think 14:06 < rmh3093> yeah i used to have a dual p3 450 system before i had my toshiba laptop 14:07 < C-Otto> dual _core_ is another story 14:07 < C-Otto> you can break two cores by using a bad fan :> 14:07 < rmh3093> extended warranty 14:08 < rmh3093> :) 14:10 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:13 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:24 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:24 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:33 -!- BHSPitMonkey2 [n=stephen@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:39 -!- BHSPitMonkey2 is now known as BHSPitMonkey 14:46 -!- Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Client Quit] 14:48 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:48 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 < BHSPitMonkey> yyyep. 15:04 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:04 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 < rmh3093> aegray: ping? 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18:35 < cj_m> i would appreciate any help!!!!!!! 18:36 < BleuLlama> 2.6 kernel doesn't work yet on the ipod 18:37 < cj_m> great thx 18:37 < cj_m> any working patches, tried a prerelease no joy, sob 18:38 < BleuLlama> i think someone might be working on porting the 2.6 kernel, but it's rough, and there's not much gain for using it over 2.4, so work is going very slowly, afaik. 18:38 < BleuLlama> 2.4 works just fine on the ipod, no real reason to switch to 2.6 18:39 < cj_m> lol; i know but downgrading always hurts :-) 18:39 < BleuLlama> downgrading? 18:39 < cj_m> 2.6 to 3.4 18:39 < BleuLlama> you never had a working 2.6 on your ipod anyway.... huh? 18:39 < cj_m> 2.6 to 2.4 18:40 < BleuLlama> right. but unless you ported 2.6 yourself, you don't have it on your ipod. 18:40 < BleuLlama> are you talking about using your ipod on a pc running 2.6? 18:40 < cj_m> Oh sorry, there is a miss understanding. Im trying to mount a ipod via usb on a linux box running a 2.6.16 kernel 18:41 < BleuLlama> oh. you're in the wrong place. no one here can help you with that. 18:41 < cj_m> poor english! 18:41 < BleuLlama> go to a gtkpod or linux chat room instead 18:41 < BleuLlama> sorry 18:42 -!- Cillian_ is now known as Cillian 18:43 < cj_m> is this channel only for ipodlinux ( i.e. linux on your ipod) 18:43 -!- cj_m [n=cj@dsl-146-253-236.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:43 -!- cj_m [n=cj@dsl-146-253-236.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ipodlinux 18:46 -!- Therx [n=Therx@i-195-137-39-215.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:46 -!- cj_m [n=cj@dsl-146-253-236.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:47 < tarpman> o_O 18:47 < tarpman> my ipod works just fine on my 2.6... 18:47 < tarpman> maybe I'm special. 18:48 < Cillian> mine too 18:48 < Cillian> 5g 18:54 < BleuLlama> tell cj_m when they return, and talk to them off channel about it 18:54 < BleuLlama> s/when/if/ 18:54 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.172.50] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:57 < Lex> :o 18:57 < Lex> my photo works too 19:08 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:14 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 19:14 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 -!- quobl_ [n=quobl@tor/session/x-6ea366cb0b28078f] has quit [Client Quit] 19:31 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:33 -!- bushblowz [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:34 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["[BX] Time wasted: 6 millenia 2 centuries 3 decades 8 years 5 months"] 19:47 -!- Garfunkel [n=Garfunke@cs181170242.pp.htv.fi] has quit ["Lämnar"] 20:08 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:08 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:08 -!- linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb 20:11 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:15 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd793.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 < rmh3093> i think he is special 20:17 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 20:18 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["*poof*"] 20:25 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd793.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [] 20:27 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-161-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 -!- mightyFidgEt [i=mightyfi@O3277.o.pppool.de] has quit ["Life is Boolean"] 20:32 -!- ryang [n=ryang@67-138-164-82.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 < aegray> rmh3093: pong 20:34 -!- ryang [n=ryang@67-138-164-82.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:34 < BleuLlama> aegray: lobster 20:34 < aegray> BleuLlama: burrito 20:35 < aegray> shouldn't you be working or something? 20:36 < Cillian> aegray: chicken burger 20:36 < aegray> mmmm 20:39 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@24.147.105.41] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 < BleuLlama> aegray: shouldn't you? 20:40 * aegray doesn't work 20:42 < aegray> BleuLlama: it's impolite to answer a question with another question. 20:43 < BleuLlama> aegray: and i am known for my politeness? 20:43 < aegray> BleuLlama: you need to learn. You're never going to make it in the real world with that attitude. Once you get out of that bubble of college, real life is going to hit - and hard. 20:43 < aegray> oh wait. 20:44 < aegray> :( 20:44 < BleuLlama> oh, you're one to talk. you're in 8th grade 20:44 < aegray> i deal with more real world issues than you could imagine. 20:44 < aegray> i got in a fight over dodgeball yesterday 20:44 < BleuLlama> is that so? 20:44 < aegray> when was the last time you got in a real fight? 20:45 < BleuLlama> what does that fucking matter? 20:45 < BleuLlama> only losers get into fights. 20:45 < aegray> it does. Jimmy needed to be tought a lesson. 20:45 < aegray> it's about taking what's yours and defending your honor. 20:46 < aegray> and not letting people cheat. 20:46 < aegray> see? REAL WORLD ISSUES 20:46 < aegray> have fun in your bubble. 20:47 < BleuLlama> you are such a tool sometimes. 20:47 < aegray> yea. resort to name calling. 20:47 < BleuLlama> whatever. 20:49 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-149-184.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:51 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:52 < imphasing> I think I finally got my conditional function worked out. 20:52 < imphasing> :D 20:52 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:00 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@44.80-203-31.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:04 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #Ipodlinux 21:14 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:21 < Cillian> any progress on the 5g? 21:26 < BleuLlama> any chance you'll either look at cvs/svn logs or just stop pestering us about it? 21:27 -!- sketcher [n=sketcher@84-74-69-196.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 21:27 -!- Therx [n=Therx@i-195-137-39-215.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["May be back later"] 21:27 < sketcher> hi 21:28 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:29 < sketcher> I tried to install linux on my ipod nano. I followed 100% the instructions of your website. it never worked for me :-( I have a black screen with a apple on it. does anybody know how to fix it? 21:29 < Cillian> /msg iplbot broken 21:29 < aegray> i doubt you followed 100% instructions then :P 21:29 < aegray> do that 21:29 < Cillian> hehe 21:30 < sketcher> I can't mount it anymore :-( 21:30 < sketcher> any idea? 21:31 < BleuLlama> `diskmode 21:31 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: play+center [from BleuLlama] 21:32 < Cillian> is the apple logo from the flash bootloader, or the apple firmware? 21:32 < aegray> flash 21:32 < sketcher> the normal apple logo (the original one) 21:32 < Cillian> aha... 21:32 < Cillian> so however bad you bork up the firmware on the harddrive, you can still tell the flash to put it in diskmode? 21:33 < sketcher> iplbot, what is <=3g? 21:33 < sketcher> ah ok sry 21:33 < iplbot> I assume you meant same damn instructions. same damn instructions is irrelevant. 4g isn't supported yet. There may be odd bugs (like yours) that, even though it's the "same damn instructions", cause problems on >=4g. That includes photo, mini, and (especially) mini 2g. 4g and above is UNSUPPORTED. [from BleuLlama] 21:34 < BleuLlama> oops 21:36 < sketcher> thx my OS is recognizing it again thx thx thx :-) :-) :-) 21:37 < Cillian> :-) 21:37 < sketcher> nice bot :-) 21:38 * Cillian considers adding a script to irssi which searches lines for "broken" and automaticly replies with " /msg iplbot broken" 21:38 -!- bluey [n=bluey@dslb-084-059-100-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:39 -!- bwblade [n=blade870@cpc2-ware1-0-0-cust106.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:40 < bwblade> Hello all 21:40 < aegray> hi 21:42 < Cillian> yo 21:42 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 < bwblade> Having a bit of trouble with IpL gets stuck on the boot up (3g 20gig, Op Win) it stops on the modeprobe command and will not go any further, have tried a few times Kernel is updated have tried completely restoring the ipod and that dident work either any help wld be great 21:43 * Cillian successfully puts his ipod in diskmode for no particular reason 21:43 < Cillian> hmm... 21:43 < Cillian> i'm guessing menu+center to reboot it again? 21:43 < sketcher> bye guys 21:43 < Cillian> cya 21:43 -!- sketcher [n=sketcher@84-74-69-196.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:44 < bwblade> You could reboot 1000 times wld do the same thing 21:44 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 < Cillian> hmm... 21:46 < Cillian> since the ipod seems so indestructable (software-wise) 21:46 < Cillian> i think i might install ipod linux anyway and see what happens 21:47 < bwblade> This is the section that the boot stops at : 21:47 < bwblade> Command: modprobe ts 21:47 < bwblade> Command: modprobe ts 21:47 < bwblade> b43aa82 21:47 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 21:47 < bwblade> b43aa82 21:47 < bwblade> Using. /lib/modules/2 21:47 < bwblade> Using. /lib/modules/2 21:47 < bwblade> .4 24 ipod1/kernel/a 21:47 < bwblade> .4 24 ipod1/kernel/a 21:47 < bwblade> rch/armnommu/mach-ip 21:47 < bwblade> rch/armnommu/mach-ip 21:47 < bwblade> od/tsh43aa82 . o 21:47 < bwblade> od/tsh43aa82 . o 21:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b %bwblade!*@* ] by aegray 21:47 < aegray> shutup 21:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b %bwblade!*@* ] by aegray 21:47 < bwblade> j Exp $ 21:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b %bwblade!*@* ] by aegray 21:47 < imphasing> haha 21:48 -!- EYE-WHY [n=porkins4@pool-70-105-242-121.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 -!- Nam-Ereh-Won [n=ed_iambu@cpe-66-68-176-102.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:49 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b %bwblade!*@* ] by aegray 21:49 < EYE-WHY> is there any way to just turn off podzilla (like pressing/holding pause in apple firmware) on 4g? 21:50 < aegray> yes 21:50 < aegray> `poweroff beta 21:50 < iplbot> poweroff beta is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/poweroff_beta [from aegray] 21:50 < EYE-WHY> sweet, thanks 21:50 < Cillian> does menu+center reboot from linux too? 21:51 < aegray> `poweroff? 21:51 < aegray> `voices 21:51 < aegray> aghhhhhh 21:51 < aegray> iplbot: ping 21:51 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray courtc coob macpod leachbj davidc__ Luke veteran aegray_ BleuLlama aegray__ aegray___ slowcoder > 21:51 < iplbot> PONG [from aegray] 21:51 < aegray> hmm 21:54 < Cillian> isn't that poweroff thing just a version of the "sleep" mode? 21:54 < aegray> not really - its the same as what happens when you leave your ipod off for a long time 21:54 < aegray> it really turns off in deep standby 21:54 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@24.147.105.41] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 21:55 < Cillian> i mean, does menu+center reboot the ipod so I could go back to apple firmware? 21:55 < aegray> yes 21:55 < Cillian> ookay 21:55 < bwblade> Oooo new error 21:55 < EYE-WHY> so the poweroff beta is for puttin podzilla into a deep sleep not just a regular sleep? 21:56 < Cillian> are these filesizes about right? i.e. are my backups ok?: 21:56 < Cillian> 4.0K ipod_boot_sector_backup 79M ipod_os_partition_backup 21:56 < aegray> yes 21:57 < EYE-WHY> so there is no way to turn off podzilla and then next time you turn on your ipod have podzilla come up besides having it as default OS? 21:58 < aegray> you can hold rewind when you turn it on 21:59 < Cillian> i'm guessing it's not possible to do the partitioning in cfdisk? It seems to assume sda1 is free space 21:59 < aegray> :/ 22:00 < bwblade> Has anyone ever heard of the boot stopping at the modprobe command and not loading linux ? 22:00 < aegray> not really 22:00 < aegray> what modprobe command? 22:01 < bwblade> Command: modprobe ts 22:01 < bwblade> b43aa82 22:01 < aegray> take that out of your rc file 22:02 < bwblade> rc file ? 22:02 < bwblade> in the linux folder in root ? 22:02 < aegray> /etc/rc 22:02 < aegray> /etc/rc 22:02 < aegray> weird 22:02 < bwblade> cheers 22:02 < bwblade> ;) 22:07 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bcf48a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 < bwblade> Sorry im lost can you explain how to do that please 22:13 < Cillian> are the nightly kernels always stable? 22:15 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 22:15 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:15 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:16 < BHSPitLappy> ok josh_ 22:17 < Cillian> yes, no? 22:20 -!- nBHSPitMokey [n=stephen@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- nBHSPitMokey is now known as BHSPitMonkey 22:27 < Cillian> this is getting stupid 22:27 < Cillian> i need to compile svn so I can get ipodloader2 22:27 < Cillian> what do I need loader2 for anyway? 22:28 < aegray> makes everything easier 22:28 < Cillian> hmm... 22:29 < Cillian> and whats the apple_sw_5g_scsc.bin do? 22:30 < aegray> something for 5g 22:30 < Cillian> hmmmm..... 22:30 < Cillian> compiling subversion is taking ageeees, is there any other way to get loader2/ 22:30 < Cillian> ? 22:31 < aegray> no 22:31 < aegray> not afaik 22:31 < Cillian> :'( 22:31 < Cillian> what about just manually downloading all the files? 22:31 < aegray> checking out from svn or compiling the actual svn program? 22:31 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:32 < Cillian> checking out from svn 22:32 < Cillian> compiling svn is no prob, but takes ages 22:32 < Cillian> and needs a lot of libraries 22:32 < bwblade> How do i remove that command from etc/rc ? 22:33 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 < Cillian> open /etc/rc in your favorite editor? 22:36 < Cillian> and delete the line with it on? 22:36 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it."] 22:37 < bwblade> where is the etc/rc file ?? 22:37 < Cillian> /mnt/ipod/etc/rc 22:37 < Cillian> i think 22:37 < Cillian> you on linux or windows? 22:38 < bwblade> im using windows 22:38 < Cillian> oh, okay 22:38 < Cillian> urm... i'm not sure how to access the linux partition from windows 22:38 * Cillian prods any clever people in the room 22:38 < BHSPitLappy> ouch. 22:38 < BHSPitLappy> ;) 22:38 < bwblade> I have made progress 22:39 < BHSPitLappy> bwblade: you can't see it from windows 22:39 < Cillian> WTF!?!?!? 22:39 < BHSPitLappy> if you have podzilla2, you can edit the line -in- ipodlinux 22:39 < Cillian> i have just got all the files from the loader2 22:39 < Cillian> and it won't compile 22:39 < Cillian> says it needs: 22:39 < Cillian> " arm-uclinux-elf-gcc" 22:39 < BHSPitLappy> then get it. 22:39 < bwblade> now its stoped on shell invoked to run file /hp/start command: mv /hp/podzilla /sbin/podzilla 22:39 < Cillian> ookay... 22:40 < Cillian> where do I get that? 22:40 < BHSPitLappy> Cillian: type `toolchain in here 22:40 -!- kampfer [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 < Cillian> `toolchain 22:41 < BHSPitLappy> bwblade: it should stop the first time, now reboot it 22:41 < Cillian> i suddenly doubt i'm gonna get this install done tonight 22:41 < BHSPitLappy> Cillian: what distro? 22:41 < Cillian> gentoo :-( 22:41 < Cillian> hang on 22:41 < BHSPitLappy> heh 22:41 < BHSPitLappy> did iplbot give you the link 22:41 < Cillian> it says here I don't need the cross compiler for a binary kernel 22:41 < Cillian> is there no frikin way to do a 5g without loader2? 22:42 < BHSPitLappy> you could use the rockbox bootloader 22:42 < BHSPitLappy> go to their site/channel, that's offtopic here 22:42 < Cillian> oh jeez this is getting annoying 22:43 < Cillian> oh, great 22:43 < Cillian> now i need to download a pretty big file from the slowest server on earth 22:44 < BHSPitLappy> what server/file? 22:44 < Cillian> cya tomorrow, maybe then i'll have more luck 22:44 < Cillian> the arm-elf toolchain, from the uclinux site 22:45 < BHSPitLappy> the toolchains for iPL are on the wiki... 22:45 < BHSPitLappy> didn't iplbot send you a link 22:45 < BHSPitLappy> `toolchain 22:45 < BHSPitLappy> http://ipodlinux.org/Toolchain 22:48 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-64-217-217-43.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:49 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 22:51 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-66-232.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["OOOOoo what does THIS button do!?"] 22:53 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-149-184.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:53 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-161-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:59 -!- meklort [n=meklort@71-34-158-223.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 < meklort> hello 22:59 -!- xevix [n=xevix@adsl-70-132-66-232.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:12 < tarpman> hi 23:15 -!- zak-attack [n=zak-atta@67-136-35-151.dsl1.ogn.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:15 -!- zak-attack [n=zak-atta@67-136-35-151.dsl1.ogn.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #iPodLinux 23:16 * Cillian will continue install tomotrow 23:16 < Cillian> nn 23:19 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:20 < meklort> ok, im just wondering, but does the ipod kernel need to have the devfs populated for it to work, because when I turn on the nano, it says it cant find the init consoul (wich on gentoo(what im running) is /dev/console) 23:23 < tarpman> So I'm running for the bus today, because I'm about to miss it - iPod falls out of pocket. This is the second time it's happened. 23:23 < tarpman> Don't think it's going to recover this time. :/ 23:24 < tarpman> Anyone know what to do with an ipod that *won't* soft-reset? 23:24 < meklort> nope, i think 23:24 < tarpman> The hard drive seems to be completely gone - won't spin up. 23:24 < tarpman> It refuses to sleep or go to disk mode. :/ 23:25 < meklort> my frient droped an ipod, and the apple os just had an icon saying it couldnt find some files / parts of it 23:25 < tarpman> yeah 23:25 < tarpman> that happened to me the first time :P 23:25 < tarpman> and after a few days it got better again 23:25 < meklort> k 23:25 < tarpman> but at least that time the hard drive would still spin up, and make bad noises 23:26 < tarpman> now there's nothing 23:26 < meklort> well, if you still have the warenty... 23:26 < tarpman> heh. 23:26 < tarpman> warranty - yes, probably.. 23:26 < tarpman> receipt might be a different story though 23:26 < tarpman> time to start looking, you think? 23:27 < meklort> ah, that might be a problem 23:27 < meklort> yeah 23:27 < meklort> you owuldnt happen to know why this nano has a kernel panic, saying that the initial consould cant be found (there is nothing in the /dev/ folder when I look at it on my computer) 23:27 < tarpman> no idea, sorry 23:28 < tarpman> try making a /dev/console though :P 23:28 < meklort> k, I think I might try and populate it (im assuming it uses the same commadns for linux for x86 23:28 < tarpman> iirc any linux needs /dev/console and /dev/null to boot 23:28 < tarpman> don't bother populating, just cp -L your console and null 23:29 < meklort> yeah, all the ipod_fs,s that i download of of sourceforge have nothing in /dev thouhg, but i'll try making console manualy 23:29 < tarpman> and null 23:29 < tarpman> /dev/null is needed too I think 23:29 < meklort> k 23:29 < meklort> yeah 23:29 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:31 -!- bushblowz [n=knoppix@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:34 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:36 -!- imphasing_ [n=a766a239@yossman.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:40 -!- zourse_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 23:51 < rmh3093> aegray: ping? 23:51 < aegray> pong 23:51 < aegray> whats up 23:52 < rmh3093> did u get the solution to that integral you were looking for? 23:52 < aegray> i gave up 23:52 < aegray> worked on other stuff instead 23:52 < rmh3093> i sent it to you earlier 23:52 < rmh3093> if you need it again let me know 23:52 < aegray> yea sure 23:53 < aegray> if you could :) 23:53 < rmh3093> you wanted sin(x*y)-sin(x*z) right 23:53 < rmh3093> the integral of that 23:53 < rmh3093> ? 23:54 < aegray> yea 23:54 < aegray> and sin(x*m)^2 23:54 < aegray> erm 23:54 < aegray> sin(x*y)-sin(x*z) is pretty simple 23:54 < aegray> i was looking for sin(n*x)sin(m*x) 23:54 < aegray> but i got that one 23:54 < rmh3093> oh yeah 23:54 < rmh3093> that was it 23:54 < aegray> how do you do sin^2(n*x) though? 23:55 < aegray> i did it by parts and must have done something worng because after expanding it a couple times just got 0=0 23:56 < rmh3093> int of sin^2(x*y) = x/2-[sin(x*y)*cos(x*y)]/2y 23:57 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 23:57 < EYE-WHY> you wanted sin^2(N*x) tho right, not Y 23:58 < aegray> yea 23:58 < aegray> erm it doens't really matter 23:58 < aegray> y is a constant in this case 23:58 < EYE-WHY> gotcha 23:58 < aegray> rmh3093: but how do you get that? 23:58 < aegray> i can plug it in but i want to know how to get there 23:59 < rmh3093> my graphing calculator can do symbolic integration 23:59 < aegray> yea mine too 23:59 < rmh3093> is that different that what you got --- Log closed Fri Feb 10 00:00:00 2006