--- Log opened Sun Jan 22 00:00:01 2006 00:01 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:12 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-218-130.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 00:28 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 00:39 < Gnub> loader2? 00:40 < Gnub> ipodloader2 is a newer loader for iPodLinux that allows you to load the kernel from a file on a FAT32 or ext2 filesystem, instead of having to re-make_fw whenever it changes. 00:40 < Gnub> coolness 00:40 < Gnub> lots changed in a few months 00:41 < josh_> see if it works for you 00:41 < josh_> it works perfectly for me, but some people with nanos have been reporting problems 00:41 -!- simon_23 [n=simon@p5488B9D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 00:42 < simon_23> holla! 00:42 < simon_23> is any ipod really running linux? 00:42 < simon_23> (just found that channel... and i'm wondering....) 00:42 < josh_> www.ipodlinux.org 00:43 < Gnub> heh 00:43 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:43 < simon_23> damn ... this site needs long time to load.... 00:44 < Gnub> yeah ill have to give it a try sooner or later 00:44 < Gnub> load2 00:44 < simon_23> well ! sounds really interessting !!! thankx ! 00:45 < simon_23> '/exit 00:46 < simon_23> 'doh! 00:46 -!- simon_23 [n=simon@p5488B9D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:54 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- JaZy84_ [n=cjazinsk@cpe-70-117-206-214.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 < JaZy84_> i have a 3G ipod. I tryed to install linux on it via the cmd prompt. (in linux) that just messed with the partitions. Now when in windows the ipod is seen but will go into disk mode (doesn't work when not connected just blinks folder) when i try to restore with apples hardware it goes through the process and says it will restart and finish, never restarts.. windows can't format the drive (only seen as 20gb) the ipod is 30Gb can i 00:58 < JaZy84_> do anything to repair? 01:00 < Gnub> yeah i prolly sounded like simon_23 a yr ago to date ... isnt there an irc log somewhere? 01:00 < Gnub> i think thatd be funny 01:00 < BHSPitMonkey> Gnub: /whois _ipodstats 01:01 < BHSPitMonkey> that contains the link. 01:02 < JaZy84_> oh and one more bit of info the installer for windows shows "no ipod found" when it's plugged in in disk mode. apples program will recognize an ipod is plugged in but no the serial and other information. 01:04 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:06 < Gnub> oh wait everybody hated me back then... still prolly do 01:06 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:08 < BHSPitMonkey> JaZy84_: you have it in disk mode, right? 01:10 < JaZy84_> yes 01:10 < JaZy84_> that's the only thing it will start in 01:11 < JaZy84_> well i can get it to start in diag mode on the ipod 01:11 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 01:12 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:14 < BHSPitMonkey> did everything go well under the "kernel installation" section? 01:14 < BHSPitMonkey> ah, JaZy84_ , when you installed the bootloader "dd if=my_sw...." 01:15 < BHSPitMonkey> were you in Apple disk mode, or hardware diskmode? 01:16 < JaZy84_> i did that dd command when i has it plugged in to my linux box, i was using gtkpod at that moment so i'm not sure which mode it was in 01:17 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:17 < BHSPitMonkey> do that step again 01:17 < BHSPitMonkey> "dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev.........." 01:17 < JaZy84_> the kernel installation " on the diag? do the dd cmd on the linux box? 01:17 < BHSPitMonkey> not on diagmode, but diskmode 01:17 < BHSPitMonkey> from your linux box. 01:19 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:20 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 < spazzium> hmmm 01:20 < JaZy84_> let me get ipod bootloder & kernel loder brb 01:20 < spazzium> so for all the joins and quits... testing clients 01:20 < spazzium> s/so/sorry 01:20 < spazzium> heh. 01:22 < BHSPitLappy> you should still have it made 01:25 < JaZy84_> okay i'm ging throught the walk through on installing it on linux, i'm on the fdisk part 01:25 < JaZy84_> i'm not seeing' the cmd 'n' 01:25 < BHSPitMonkey> haven't you already done that? 01:25 < JaZy84_> yeah, i did when i first screwed it up i just wanted to make sure it was right 01:27 < JaZy84_> and when i list them i'm showing they are still 1 blank and 2 apple one apple_partition map and one apple freespace 01:27 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: hasn't been that bad... 01:27 < BHSPitMonkey> huh? 01:27 < BHSPitMonkey> JaZy84_: go to #ipodlinux.help 01:28 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@c-69-181-33-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:28 < Tranqualizer> do the ipod video movies work with iPod linux? 01:28 < BHSPitMonkey> no 01:28 < Tranqualizer> oh 01:28 < BHSPitMonkey> nothing compressed. 01:29 < Tranqualizer> is there a place where I can download pre converted ipod linux videos besides the test ones on the site? 01:29 < BHSPitMonkey> floydzilla's site 01:29 < spazzium> weee 01:30 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: finally figure out that xchat is awesome? 01:30 < spazzium> haha 01:30 < spazzium> no 01:30 < spazzium> xchat blows on OS X 01:30 * frijole shudders at the thought 01:30 < Tranqualizer> sick thanks man! 01:30 * BHSPitMonkey shudders at beans 01:30 < frijole> its all about irssi 01:32 < Tranqualizer> oh also anywhere for pre converted Music Videos? 01:33 < davidc__> that would be copyright infringement 01:34 < Tranqualizer> unless you paid for them... 01:34 < Tranqualizer> like on itunes 01:35 < BHSPitMonkey> Tranqualizer: umm 01:35 < haxorninja> how do I mount the windows drive of my ipod 01:35 < veteran> it's still copyright infringement. 01:35 < BHSPitMonkey> do you have a server with your paid, iPL-converted videos on it? 01:35 < haxorninja> is it mount -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod 01:35 < BHSPitMonkey> (@ Tranqualizer ) 01:35 < veteran> US laws seem to be pay-per-codec 01:36 < Tranqualizer> not if itunes is doing it 01:36 < BHSPitMonkey> haxorninja: no 01:36 < BHSPitMonkey> haxorninja: that partition isn't type ext2, it's type vfar 01:36 < BHSPitMonkey> vfat* 01:36 < haxorninja> oh god I am an idiot 01:36 < haxorninja> didn't think of that 01:36 < haxorninja> thanks 01:36 < haxorninja> oh by the way Monkey, you were helping me last night, to let you know I got everything running fine 01:36 < haxorninja> :) 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, i know 01:37 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Changing server"] 01:38 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 < Tranqualizer> also, is there a way to convert movies to ipl on quicktime w/ out problems like no sound or inverted video? 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> you use mencoder, not quicktime... 01:39 < Gnub> can it play/encode wmv's 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> mopid if you're lazy 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> Gnub: no. 01:39 < haxorninja> fuck 01:39 < haxorninja> I have a video 01:39 < spazzium> virtualdub if you're anal 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> it ONLY plays uncompressed avi 01:39 < Gnub> is there a size limit 01:39 < haxorninja> but it is saved with spaces in its name 01:39 < haxorninja> how do I rename it with underscores 01:39 < Tranqualizer> I really dont understand mencoder 01:39 < Gnub> cause i can always re-encode it to avi 01:39 < haxorninja> rm does not work, it is treatng the name as individual files 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> haxorninja: rm = remove 01:39 < haxorninja> i mean mv 01:39 < haxorninja> sorry 01:39 < Tranqualizer> and so unless you wanna help ill have to stick w/ quicktime 01:40 < linuxstb> Just put the name in quotes - e.g. "My filename with spaces.avi" 01:40 < haxorninja> but yeah any ideas? 01:40 < haxorninja> oh 01:40 < haxorninja> thanks 01:40 < BHSPitMonkey> and just type some of the first part of the name and hit tab 01:40 < BHSPitMonkey> or quotes 01:40 < Gnub> man mv 01:40 < haxorninja> gosh darn I am excited 01:40 < haxorninja> firt video on my nano soon 01:40 < BHSPitMonkey> Tranqualizer: "mopid if you're lazy" 01:40 < haxorninja> yeah I just used mopid on my windows partition 01:40 < Tranqualizer> i'm on mac 01:40 < haxorninja> worked great 01:41 < BHSPitMonkey> Tranqualizer: then get a brain or stop complaining 01:41 < Tranqualizer> im not complaining 01:41 < BHSPitMonkey> I don't see how anyone can "not understand" how to copy and paste a command... 01:41 < Tranqualizer> and I am goood at some other things 01:41 < Tranqualizer> lol 01:42 < Tranqualizer> plus its in my blood to complain anyway (Im jewish) 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> ...except for copy/pasting? 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> "you call these bagels?" 01:42 < Tranqualizer> lol 01:45 < haxorninja> whenever I try to delete a damn directory 01:45 < haxorninja> with rmdir 01:45 < haxorninja> it says "Error, cannot delete. Directory is not empty" 01:45 < BHSPitMonkey> rm -rf directory/ 01:45 < haxorninja> ugh I was using jut f 01:45 < haxorninja> no wonder 01:45 < haxorninja> thanks 01:46 < haxorninja> WOAH 01:46 < haxorninja> FUCk 01:46 < haxorninja> it said I can not copy my 64 mb video to my ipod because there is no space 01:46 < haxorninja> how do I fit anything on my 128 mb partition for linux 01:46 < josh_> you don't have to copy it onto the linux partition 01:46 < Tranqualizer> how big can video files be in iPL? 01:46 < josh_> copy it onto the music partition if you want 01:46 < josh_> Tranqualizer: 2GNB 01:46 < josh_> *2GB 01:46 < josh_> max 01:47 < josh_> (that's about 30 min of movie on a photo-sized screen) 01:47 < Tranqualizer> koo 01:47 < haxorninja> josh 01:47 < haxorninja> how do I get it when in podzilla 01:47 < Tranqualizer> wait 01:47 < haxorninja> what folder int he browser 01:47 < Tranqualizer> but whenever I put a 20 min. tv show in my iPod it exits out of the vid half way through 01:48 < josh_> haxorninja: hp/ 01:48 < josh_> actually, mnt/ 01:48 < BHSPitMonkey> try both ;) 01:50 < haxorninja> thanks 01:52 < Tranqualizer> why does this happen: whenever I put a 20 min. tv show in my iPod it exits out of the vid half way through 01:52 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 01:53 < haxorninja> SHIT 01:53 < haxorninja> it worked 01:53 < haxorninja> wow 01:53 < haxorninja> I am in awe right now 01:53 * haxorninja weeps gently 01:54 < haxorninja> anyone know a way to put my videos in my Music section in podzilla 01:54 < haxorninja> or do you have to go to mnt 01:55 < josh_> now, what exactly would be the logic of putting videos in the Music section? 01:55 < spazzium> as in... you want your videos to show up with your music? 01:55 < haxorninja> yes 01:56 < haxorninja> is there anyway if they are stored on my vfat partition 01:56 < spazzium> ummm 01:56 < haxorninja> to move them to a different folder perhaps music or make a new one in File Browser 01:56 < haxorninja> something like that 01:56 < haxorninja> I have to go to filebrowser/mnt/ipod/videos 01:56 < haxorninja> which is a paine 01:56 < haxorninja> -e 01:56 < spazzium> I supposed if you used some random third party app to edit the database you might be able to do it 01:56 < haxorninja> damn 01:56 < haxorninja> see for me, thats a no. I am not good with this stuff 01:57 < spazzium> not sure if it would even launch correctly if you're not in filebrowser though 01:57 < haxorninja> Ah 01:57 < haxorninja> any way I can make a new folder in filebrowser to link me to the vfat partition? 01:59 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:03 < spazzium> haxorninja: are you in windows or linux? 02:04 < haxorninja> linux 02:04 < haxorninja> though I have access to windows also 02:04 < haxorninja> I think that would be badass 02:04 < haxorninja> if it were possible 02:05 < spazzium> ok assuming you're mounting your vfat correctly 02:05 < haxorninja> check 02:06 < spazzium> I just make a symlink 02:06 < spazzium> so do an ln -s /mnt/home /home 02:06 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@c-69-181-33-254.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:06 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < spazzium> and make a directory called 'home' on your fat partition 02:06 < spazzium> then put any file you want to access with podzilla in that directory 02:07 < haxorninja> oh 02:07 < haxorninja> I see 02:07 < haxorninja> ok ok I like it 02:07 < haxorninja> lemme try 02:11 < haxorninja> how do I mount my sda2 vfat partition? 02:11 < haxorninja> mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod 02:11 < erus`> 5g5g5g 02:11 < haxorninja> doesnt work for some reason 02:12 < haxorninja> oh wait 02:12 < haxorninja> got it 02:14 < haxorninja> good news spazzium I think it worked 02:18 < haxorninja> wait wait wait 02:19 < haxorninja> Spazzium are you even there still? 02:25 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:26 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:27 < Zyrill> is there a way to test the new bootloader? 02:28 -!- wizatcomputer [i=wizatcom@pool-71-161-39-145.clppva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:29 -!- linuxkernel [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:32 < Gnub> yeah 02:32 < Gnub> normally ud just "install" it 02:33 < Gnub> http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 02:33 < Gnub> has the details 02:33 < haxorninja> hm I will try that 02:33 < haxorninja> any other useful apps other than like iDoom and video player 02:33 < haxorninja> I should get? 02:34 < Gnub> hmm 02:34 < Gnub> u can install anything u want to it... practicly 02:34 < haxorninja> oh dear 02:34 < Gnub> most cmdline programs work just fine 02:34 < haxorninja> I believe I jut had a slight orgasm 02:34 < haxorninja> thanks 02:34 < Gnub> u have to "cross compile em though" u need the arm-elf toolchain 02:35 < Gnub> like i have "fortune" on mine 02:35 < Gnub> heh has anyone ported nethack? 02:35 < Zyrill> hah, thx for that info 02:35 < Gnub> yeah ive spent a long ass time reading that page 02:36 < haxorninja> wow I have no idea how to Cross Compile 02:36 < haxorninja> like you said 02:36 < Zyrill> just read up on it... 02:36 < Gnub> if it wasnt fort ipodlinux id still be farting with windows.... but now i run a dedicated slackware distro 02:36 < Zyrill> some hours ago you didn't even know how to remove a directory 02:36 < Zyrill> lol 02:37 < haxorninja> slackware pwns all man 02:37 < Gnub> now if some1 asks me about windows im like? what whats windows i dont mess with that anymore 02:38 < Gnub> i like slackware but im leaning towards fux0ring with gentoo or freebsd 6.0 02:39 < haxorninja> freebsd 02:39 < haxorninja> gentoo is too user friendly 02:40 < haxorninja> yes i said TOO 02:40 < haxorninja> hey Gnub, so say I want to put a program on my ipl, how do I format it for my ipod? 02:40 * spazzium is messing with gentoo right now 02:40 < spazzium> emerge is complicated but powerful 02:40 < spazzium> getting simpler by the day 02:41 < Gnub> u install the cross compiling toolchain already? 02:41 < Gnub> haxorninja, 02:41 < haxorninja> uhh 02:41 < haxorninja> well actually forget about it for now 02:41 < haxorninja> I will just browse the preconfigured apps :) if I need to cross compile something I will be back 02:42 < Gnub> sure thing 02:42 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit ["brb"] 02:42 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@pcp0011004121pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:43 < Gnub> heres a nifty post u might like to checkout i think they go through the proccess of cross compiling 02:43 < Gnub> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1324&start=0 02:44 -!- bushblowz [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:44 < Gnub> truthfully thats what i used to learn about crosscompiling 02:45 < Gnub> i forget the make cmd to set the "environment" for cross compiling 02:45 < Gnub> maybe some1 can remind me 02:45 < Gnub> or is it ./configure something or ather arm0elf 02:45 < BHSPitLappy> ? 02:45 < BHSPitLappy> dunno. 02:46 < Gnub> last prog i cross compiled was fortune 02:46 < BHSPitLappy> fortune? 02:46 < BHSPitLappy> Wheel of Fortune? :D 02:46 < Gnub> no 02:46 < BHSPitLappy> i think you meant luck though 02:46 < Gnub> its a bsd game i believe 02:46 < BHSPitLappy> or did you? 02:46 < BHSPitLappy> oh ok 02:47 < Gnub> its a common *nix prog 02:48 < BHSPitLappy> are you developing for iPL? 02:48 < veteran> displays a random quote, usually on login 02:48 < BHSPitLappy> yeah, guessed that much 02:49 < Gnub> well slackware does that i dunno about other distros 02:49 < BHSPitLappy> nope 02:49 < haxorninja> should I try floydzilla? 02:49 < BHSPitLappy> nope 02:49 < haxorninja> hm 02:49 < haxorninja> alright 02:49 < Gnub> u should try compiling ur own podzilla 02:49 < BHSPitLappy> what exactly do you need 02:49 < Gnub> the podzilla source or just go to the nightlys and download a "precompiled" binaryt 02:50 < BHSPitLappy> umm 02:50 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: what exactly do you need 02:50 < haxorninja> well 02:50 < haxorninja> mainly fonts 02:50 < BHSPitLappy> then use podzilla2 02:50 < BHSPitLappy> ya dope :) 02:50 < haxorninja> is that a beta? 02:50 < Gnub> and since podzilla 2 has been being developed... id start with that 02:50 -!- birdfish [i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has quit [] 02:50 < haxorninja> well I have a podzilla nightly 02:50 < Gnub> checkout what the wiki has to say about pz2 02:50 < haxorninja> can't I just add some font files to the correct directory 02:51 < Gnub> yeah that should work 02:51 < BHSPitLappy> umm...no 02:51 < Gnub> i like the tiny fonts 02:51 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: what OS?\ 02:51 < Gnub> like the apple.. i just havent figured out yet how to compile the kernel with smaller font 02:51 < haxorninja> I have linux 02:51 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: then it shouldn't be too hard 02:52 < haxorninja> yeah 02:52 < haxorninja> but what format do the font files need to be 02:52 < BHSPitLappy> podzilla2 comes with a bunch. 02:52 < Gnub> aka the kernels initial boot fint size 02:52 < josh_> haxorninja: .fnt or .pcf 02:52 < Gnub> or the "framebuffer or console font size 02:52 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: talking to yourself? 02:53 < Gnub> always 02:53 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: or .png :) 02:53 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: that only works for pz2 02:53 < BHSPitLappy> meh 02:54 < BHSPitLappy> is adding fonts to pz0 as easy as saving them in the correct spot? 02:54 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:54 < BHSPitLappy> didn't think it was. 02:54 < haxorninja> i hope so 02:54 < haxorninja> josh any words on that? 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: get pz2! 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> :D 02:55 < haxorninja> bhspitlappy I can not find it 02:55 < haxorninja> i wiki-ed podzilla2 02:55 < haxorninja> all podzilla stuff 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> it's just "podzilla" 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> on the wiki 02:56 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-170-133.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:56 < haxorninja> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh 02:56 < haxorninja> i can't 02:56 < haxorninja> find 02:56 < haxorninja> it 02:57 < BHSPitLappy> ipodlinux.org/podzilla 02:57 < BHSPitLappy> (assemble words into sentences on single lines, please) 02:57 < BHSPitLappy> nightlies are here http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds 03:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:02 < haxorninja> ah 03:02 < haxorninja> thanks 03:02 < haxorninja> and sorry about the whole multi line thing 03:02 < haxorninja> I do that when I am mad 03:03 < haxorninja> do I need these pzmodules 03:08 < BHSPitLappy> where 03:09 < Zyrill> uuh, sry for bothering again, but where do i find make_fw? 03:09 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: oh, yes 03:09 < BHSPitLappy> those dirs go in /usr/lib on the ipod 03:10 < BHSPitLappy> Zyrill: look at the wiki page "installation from linux" under the "kernel installation" section 03:11 < Zyrill> thx 03:14 < BHSPitLappy> oh wow, I can watch ani GIF's on my nano! :D 03:15 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:16 < haxorninja> linux:/home/paul/Documents/IPOD # cp podzilla2-723 /mnt/ipod/bin 03:16 < haxorninja> cp: writing `/mnt/ipod/bin/podzilla2-723': No space left on device 03:16 < haxorninja> linux:/home/paul/Documents/IPOD # 03:16 < haxorninja> anything I can do? 03:17 -!- linuxkernel [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:17 < BHSPitLappy> df 03:17 < haxorninja> huh? 03:17 < BHSPitLappy> type that 03:17 < BHSPitLappy> what the hell did you add to the linux partition? 03:17 < haxorninja> no idea 03:17 < haxorninja> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on 03:17 < haxorninja> /dev/hda1 19033396 3359500 15673896 18% / 03:17 < haxorninja> tmpfs 127788 12 127776 1% /dev/shm 03:17 < haxorninja> /dev/sda3 108883 108883 0 100% /mnt/ipod 03:17 < BHSPitLappy> video? 03:17 < haxorninja> uhh 03:17 < haxorninja> i sim linked my home folder to a folder in my fat32 partition 03:18 < haxorninja> but that shouldn't take up space? 03:18 < BHSPitLappy> no. 03:18 < BHSPitLappy> you must have done something 03:18 < haxorninja> lemme check some files 03:18 < haxorninja> ah 03:18 < haxorninja> I got it 03:18 < haxorninja> video 03:18 < haxorninja> ok thanks 03:22 < haxorninja> hmm 03:23 < haxorninja> I try to unmount my ipod 03:23 < haxorninja> and I have waited like 5 minutes 03:23 < haxorninja> but it keeps saying it is busy? 03:23 < haxorninja> oh wait 03:23 < haxorninja> nevermind 03:23 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:23 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit ["penis"] 03:24 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:24 -!- haxorninja is now known as niX_ 03:25 -!- niX_ is now known as haxorninja 03:32 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit ["penis"] 03:33 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:33 < imphasing> davidc__: You got any more C puzzles? 03:33 < imphasing> :D 03:40 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:42 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: so do you have any ipod projects going on? 03:45 < imphasing> Eh.. 03:45 < imphasing> I have a viewer that still causes podzilla to restart 03:45 < imphasing> works fine on my pc though 03:46 < BHSPitLappy> viewer of what? 03:51 < imphasing> of many files 03:51 < imphasing> images 03:51 < imphasing> text 03:51 < imphasing> some html 03:55 -!- JaZy84_ [n=cjazinsk@cpe-70-117-206-214.rgv.res.rr.com] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 04:03 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:06 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:14 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:29 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-144-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:41 < BHSPitMonkey> sooooooooooo 04:52 < BHSPitMonkey> #ipodlinux: ping 04:58 < spazzium> pong 04:58 < spazzium> but I doubt you want my pong 04:58 < BHSPitMonkey> works for me 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> can you come up with any ideas for this damn thing 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> making some changes to Chopper, and trying to make the colors come from the scheme 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> but there's no good way to do it 05:02 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:03 < spazzium> make the colors come from the scheme? 05:03 < spazzium> you want to integrate chopper with the scheme being used? 05:03 < BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm 05:03 < BHSPitMonkey> i know the function 05:03 < forceflow1049> in installed pz2 on my 2g, but when i restart after successfully getting in, it hangs on a permission error 05:03 < BHSPitMonkey> but there's no good properties to get the colors from in our schemes currently 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> forceflow1049: what's the error? 05:04 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: I'd look at mpdc and see how it does it (if it does it) 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: which part? 05:05 < spazzium> well when mpd is finished and mpdc is working as it should it'll use the current scheme 05:05 < forceflow1049> command: fi fi Bad command or filename command: podzilla permission denied 05:05 < spazzium> they might have already finished that part 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: i know that 05:05 < spazzium> forceflow1049: plug your ipod back in and do a chmod +x podzilla 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> took the words out of my mouth... 05:05 < spazzium> heh, sorry :) 05:05 < forceflow1049> whats that... i installed using the nightly from the wiki 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: yes, apps using scheme properties is already implemented 05:06 < spazzium> forceflow1049: you running linux? 05:06 < forceflow1049> no... winxp 05:06 < BHSPitMonkey> but the properties in a scheme file... there's no good definitions to work as a sky and tertain 05:06 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: but nobody has done it yet? 05:06 < BHSPitMonkey> terrain* 05:06 < spazzium> forceflow1049: I doubt you're using pz2 then 05:06 < forceflow1049> ?? 05:06 < coob> BHSPitMonkey: what do you want/need the colours for? 05:06 < BHSPitMonkey> forceflow1049: the nightlies are pz0 05:07 < forceflow1049> http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla#Windows 05:07 < forceflow1049> got a pz2 nightly 05:07 < spazzium> right, that's pz0 05:07 < BHSPitMonkey> coob: background and terrain in Chopper 05:07 < forceflow1049> "Yes, there are now nightly builds of PZ2 available!" 05:07 < BHSPitMonkey> coob: there's no good properties really to use 05:07 < coob> you don't use a scheme colour for that. 05:07 < BHSPitMonkey> forceflow1049: not from there though 05:07 < coob> you just use a brown/green and a blue 05:07 < coob> games dont have to be schemed 05:08 < BHSPitMonkey> coob: but I want it to be scheme based :) 05:08 < coob> just ui elements. 05:08 < forceflow1049> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/ 05:08 < spazzium> forceflow1049: go to /etc/rc and add the line chmod +x /etc/podzilla before the line that reads "pozilla" 05:08 < coob> why? thats retarded. 05:08 < BHSPitMonkey> coob: who did pong and all the other ones like that then? 05:08 < coob> should doom be schemed? no. there's no need for non simple games to be 05:08 < spazzium> err... uh... can he even get to that in window? I doubt it 05:08 < coob> just use bg/fg 05:08 < BHSPitMonkey> coob: chopper is simple 05:08 < coob> as pong do 05:08 < coob> if thats not enough 05:09 < coob> then the games not simple enough. 05:09 < forceflow1049> "/etc/rc" no such dir 05:09 < BHSPitMonkey> it should be like pong...but i believe pong uses the compatibility layer or whatever, not ttk 05:09 < spazzium> well... yeah 05:09 < coob> just use fg/bg then 05:09 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3578025.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 05:09 < coob> or whatever corresponds to that. 05:09 < spazzium> forceflow1049: I'm not sure if I can help you, I'm not familiar with the windows installers 05:10 < forceflow1049> kk... it wasn;t an installer tho... i used a start file 05:10 < forceflow1049> gui installer i mean 05:10 < BHSPitMonkey> coob: that's the thing, there's not a pair of consistently contrasting props 05:10 < BHSPitMonkey> and the good stuff's gradiented 05:11 < spazzium> hmmm 05:11 < spazzium> looking at the start file it should have taken care of things 05:13 < spazzium> oh yeah, you're right it is pz2 05:13 < spazzium> they've updated some things 05:13 < forceflow1049> it boots up the 1st time 05:13 < forceflow1049> but when i restart.. it hangs on the error 05:17 < BHSPitMonkey> suh-weet 05:17 < BHSPitMonkey> my mom brasso'd my nano for me 05:18 < BHSPitMonkey> hehe 05:18 < spazzium> you got YOUR MOM to do it?? 05:18 < BHSPitMonkey> YEAH, I KNOW! 05:18 < forceflow1049> wow 05:18 < BHSPitMonkey> actually 05:18 < BHSPitMonkey> i didn't ask her to 05:18 < BHSPitMonkey> she just...offered 05:18 < BHSPitMonkey> i was like uhhhh....ok... 05:18 < forceflow1049> cool mom 05:19 < forceflow1049> she knew the brasso trick? 05:21 < spazzium> there's a joke here... but I'm just gonna leave it on the shelf 05:21 < spazzium> even though it's... right there 05:23 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: i realized that 05:23 < BHSPitMonkey> keep it to yourself 05:23 < BHSPitMonkey> the brasso thing does work very well though 05:24 < forceflow1049> haven't tried it 05:24 < BHSPitMonkey> i tried it once 05:25 < BHSPitMonkey> but i definitely don't have patience 05:25 < BHSPitMonkey> so i didn't do too good 05:25 < forceflow1049> hehe 05:26 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: ping 05:30 < spazzium> hmm 05:33 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:35 < forceflow1049> good night 05:35 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 05:41 -!- wizatcomputer [i=wizatcom@pool-71-161-39-145.clppva.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:42 < Elsan_> Who has an internet connection here? 05:44 < BHSPitMonkey> all of us? 05:46 < josh_> pong 05:48 < josh_> Elsan_: http://www.bash.org/?605794 05:48 < josh_> ^ your reward for asking such an extraordinarily silly question. 05:50 < Elsan_> :D 05:50 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: do you have ANY idea why podzilla refuses to load the aquafont.fnt I converted? 05:51 < Elsan_> I got it on the french bash :D 05:51 < BHSPitMonkey> crazy canadian :) 05:51 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: nope, none. 05:51 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: rockbox DOES load this very .fnt in question 05:51 < josh_> what's the error? 05:51 < josh_> send me the .fnt file, I'll take a look at it in a hex editor 05:52 < BHSPitMonkey> something about truncation, i'll bring it up 05:53 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: sent 05:53 < josh_> "Yo." Shortest email I've ever gotten 05:53 < josh_> . 05:53 < BHSPitMonkey> Error in font file fonts/aquafont.fnt - possibly truncated. 05:53 < josh_> ah 05:53 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: I'm glad to be of meaning 05:54 < josh_> *possibly* truncated 05:54 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: works very spiffily in rockbox 06:05 < Elsan_> josh_, BHSPitMonkey: http://www.bash.org/?605801 06:05 < Elsan_> :D 06:05 < spazzium> can't see any of these, waiting for moderation :) 06:06 < josh_> Elsan_: what was the quote? 06:06 < Elsan_> on #ubuntu-fr, I got flamed for asking that question 06:06 < Elsan_> Who has an internet connection here? 06:06 < josh_> ah haha 06:06 < josh_> 3 06:06 < josh_> ^ ign. 06:06 < spazzium> nice 06:06 < spazzium> hahaha 06:06 < BHSPitMonkey> so you *try* to get Bash.org'ed? 06:06 < BHSPitMonkey> I have no respect for you. 06:06 < Elsan_> No 06:07 < Elsan_> But I HAD to ask that question 06:07 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: he didn't deserve it, take it back! undo! 06:07 < Elsan_> it was an incredible urge 06:07 < Elsan_> No kiddin 06:07 < Elsan_> g 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: figure out anything? 06:15 < Elsan_> Good night. 06:15 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3578025.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> or busy RE'ing away at the 5G 06:17 * BleuLlama gets a 4cd changer running on his P233MMX box for fun 06:22 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: it's a different version of the FNT format 06:22 < josh_> RB12 instead of RB11 06:22 < BHSPitMonkey> so...that means we're behind on that standard? 06:28 < josh_> well, first of all that code wasn't 64-bit clean, assumed unsigned long = 4 bytes... wonder it ever worked before now. 06:29 < josh_> and second of all, I think RB12 has shorts of offset instead of longs 06:30 < josh_> oh, and they don't have the name and copyright fields 06:36 < josh_> also, `nbits' measures bytes in RB12 and shorts in RB11 06:36 < josh_> oh great, the bitmap data is in groups of 8 too :-( sigh. 06:37 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 06:37 < BHSPitLappy> yeah... all that was pretty much a sililoque :P 06:37 -!- Resonant [n=Resonant@ip70-161-239-5.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [] 06:38 < josh_> yeah, we probably won't be able to support RB12 fonts except with HD, which has much better handling for stuff like that. 06:38 < josh_> (Take a look at my recent font commits.) 06:38 < BHSPitLappy> yeah, i saw them 06:38 < BHSPitLappy> in LiveCommit-Vision! 06:38 < josh_> heh 06:39 < BHSPitLappy> so...I guess I ned to find a converter with the older standard 06:39 < josh_> I might be able to convert it for you 06:39 < BHSPitLappy> s/ned/need 06:40 < josh_> anyway, podium sans looks good to me 06:40 < josh_> I'll commit it 06:40 < BHSPitLappy> suh-weet! 06:40 * BHSPitLappy gets his camera ready 06:41 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ttk/fonts/ (PodiumSans-i.png[+] PodiumSans.png[+] fonts.lst): Podium Sans! Thanks, BHSPitMonkey! (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/734) 06:41 < BHSPitLappy> YAY! 06:42 < BHSPitLappy> A CONTRIBUTION! 06:42 < BHSPitLappy> SCORE! 06:47 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:50 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 07:00 < spazzium> hooray BHSPitLappy! 07:00 * spazzium gets font 07:28 < BHSPitLappy> :: "The crowd has fallen deafly silent..." :: 07:39 < BHSPitLappy> good news spazzium, I unignored you 07:39 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.119] has joined #ipodlinux 07:39 < EvilDude> 'lo all 07:39 < BHSPitLappy> hey! 07:40 < BHSPitLappy> I spent most of my computing-day messing with chopper :P 07:43 < EvilDude> woot 07:43 < EvilDude> anything good so far? 07:43 < EvilDude> eg more bouncy or anything? 07:43 < EvilDude> (and do you get how it works :D ) 07:43 < BHSPitLappy> not really :S 07:43 < BHSPitLappy> I changed the gravity timer more to my liking 07:43 < BHSPitLappy> and changed the colors 07:45 < EvilDude> there's a gravity timer :| ? 07:45 < lBoxy> any build supports compressed video already? 07:45 < EvilDude> that's just the drawtimer =\ 07:45 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: well whatever it was it made the heli more responsive i think 07:46 < Lex> lBoxy: nope 07:46 < BHSPitLappy> iGravityTimerCountdown 07:46 < EvilDude> yeah? did you make the timer amount smaller? 07:46 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: that 07:46 < BHSPitLappy> it was 2 07:46 < BHSPitLappy> I brought it up to around 7 or 9 07:47 < EvilDude> ah ok 07:47 < BHSPitLappy> and I *thought* it made a difference 07:47 < EvilDude> I dont even remember what it does =\ 07:47 < EvilDude> but thats good then :D 07:47 < BHSPitMonkey> what controls the vertical acceleration? 07:47 < EvilDude> haha well make it more like the swf ;) 07:47 < EvilDude> yours to fix 07:47 < EvilDude> and then if you wanna learn a lot more 07:47 < EvilDude> look at the todo on the top and try those :p 07:47 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 07:48 < BHSPitMonkey> you should see what I did to the colors :P 07:51 < EvilDude> oh oh :p 07:51 < EvilDude> good or bad 07:51 < BHSPitMonkey> good 07:51 < BHSPitMonkey> I spent a long time trying to make it scheme-based 07:52 < BHSPitMonkey> but I was discouraged and talked out of it 07:53 < BHSPitMonkey> is there a way to "pause"/suspend the desktop podzilla2? 07:54 < BHSPitMonkey> "h" requires it held, so that's not exactly what I'm going for... 07:54 < EvilDude> scheme based would be cool but not sure how well it would work for games 07:54 < EvilDude> hm unfortunately no 07:54 < EvilDude> any reason :| ? 07:54 < BHSPitMonkey> so I can get an action screenshot 07:54 < EvilDude> hm 07:54 < EvilDude> just run and press alt + print screen 07:54 < EvilDude> :P 07:54 < EvilDude> while holding h 07:54 < BHSPitMonkey> does alt take out the delay? 07:55 < EvilDude> delay :| ? 07:55 < EvilDude> no delay on windows =\ 07:56 < BHSPitMonkey> linux here 07:57 < EvilDude> hm why not just press print screen and play for a while and screenshot will come sooner or later :p 07:58 < BHSPitMonkey> i got it 07:59 -!- dottru [n=bot@wrls-12-111-231-254.bowlingreen.oh.speednet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 -!- dottru is now known as `liat 07:59 < EvilDude> cool 07:59 < EvilDude> show me :) 08:04 < BHSPitMonkey> http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3114/helicopter19je.png 08:06 < `liat> I've installed iPL with the newest version of Floyd and was kind of depressed. 08:07 < BHSPitLappy> that's what you get for using floydzilla 08:07 < `liat> ? 08:07 < `liat> It's better than podzilla, imo 08:07 < EvilDude> ..? 08:07 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 08:07 < BHSPitLappy> get some sense. 08:07 * `liat gets sense 08:08 < EvilDude> hahaha i expected those colors :p 08:08 < BHSPitLappy> yup yup 08:08 < EvilDude> I changed it to make it a bit different ;) But thats good too 08:08 < BHSPitLappy> perhaps someday a built in color chooser :D 08:09 < `liat> ? 08:09 < EvilDude> heh perhaps but thats a lot of choosing for a simple game so keep it original i guess ;) 08:09 < `liat> Is there a better shell? 08:09 < EvilDude> `liat what exactly was depressing? 08:09 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: well it wouldn't be a lot of code 08:09 < BHSPitLappy> just an extra input menu for setting a few variables 08:09 < EvilDude> na not extra code - but clogging up the interface a bit ;) 08:10 < BHSPitLappy> meh 08:10 < BHSPitLappy> "New Game" and "High Scores" is just too bare! :D 08:10 < EvilDude> yeah I guess if I'll have a new menu 08:10 < EvilDude> might as well have appearance 08:10 < EvilDude> yeah 08:10 < EvilDude> high scores is so cheap, I couldnt be bothered to make a smart reader that read scores and displayed in bottom or something so i just added new window for it :p 08:11 < BHSPitLappy> heh 08:12 < `liat> EvilDude: I guess i just expected more 08:13 < BHSPitLappy> `liat: I believe you're looking for podzilla and podzilla2 :) 08:13 < `liat> Ya know, 'cause the switch from 98 to Debian was so fun, I guess I expected the same switching from Apple Firmware to ucLinux 08:13 < BHSPitLappy> what the... 08:13 < BHSPitLappy> oh, I can't say your name without calling the bot. 08:13 < `liat> mine? 08:13 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 08:14 -!- `liat is now known as liat 08:14 < BHSPitLappy> heh. thanks. 08:14 < EvilDude> neither :p 08:14 < liat> Back in 1999, I dropped Windows 98 for Debian 08:14 < liat> :D 08:14 < liat> It rocked 08:14 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 08:14 < EvilDude> liat: it's because linux is nowhere near finished and you're obviously not using pz2 on a colour iPod ;) 08:14 < liat> I'm on a nano 08:14 < liat> *color* 08:14 < BHSPitLappy> me too. 08:15 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar6.png 08:15 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar7.png 08:15 < EvilDude> liat: with pz2? no because floyd doesnt use pz2 :P 08:15 < BHSPitLappy> ^ podzilla 2 08:15 < liat> ah 08:15 < BHSPitLappy> and comes with a whole slew of fonts to choose from 08:16 < liat> ah 08:16 < BHSPitLappy> including an exact clone of apple's default nano font! which just got committed! that I made! 08:16 < BHSPitLappy> :D 08:16 < cdm> those aren't very well rendered fonts 08:16 * liat downloads pz2 08:16 < cdm> you guys must be able to get them to look better. 08:16 < BHSPitLappy> stop bitching and get coding 08:16 < liat> hm 08:16 < EvilDude> rofl cdm stop biatching, we let the user choose their own font ;) 08:17 < EvilDude> and our battery meter looks better! 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> Aiken and Podium Sans (the retailos font) are antialiased 08:17 < EvilDude> and the whole thing is customizable :D 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> lots of great schemes. 08:17 < EvilDude> BHSPitLappy we support antialiased fonts right.... :P ? 08:17 < liat> lol 08:17 < josh_> cdm: what, do you think we should store TTFs in a folder on a FAT16 image that gets loaded on boot? seems a little convoluted to me... :P 08:17 < liat> mmm 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: only as SFonts, which are only b/w :( 08:17 < liat> Podzilla 2? 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: ha 08:18 < liat> In the nightly builds section, I only see 1 :< 08:18 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: I still never could make anything of those TTF's :S 08:18 < josh_> yeah, they're probably in a special format 08:18 < BHSPitLappy> liat: nightlies are in a separate server 08:18 < josh_> which only makes the whole idea seem even *more* convoluted 08:18 < BHSPitLappy> liat: or you can build it yourself, so you always catch new commits! 08:18 < josh_> liat: ~[pz2 nightlies] 08:18 < iplbot> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds [from josh_] 08:18 < cdm> josh - yeah, instead lets store them on the main partition and when the drive gets wiped out there aren't any fonts on the device. 08:18 < josh_> and see ~[wiki Podzilla] for info on how to install it 08:18 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [19479 bytes] 08:19 < liat> thx 08:19 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: try "~shit" next ;) 08:19 < josh_> cdm: if the drive gets wiped out, so does the firmware partition and the rsrc image 08:19 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: I know :-) 08:20 < cdm> josh - no, not as easily. When the iPod is in disk mode the rsrc image isn't actually mounted. It's much harder to destory. 08:20 < cdm> destroy even 08:20 < josh_> cdm: rsrc is stored on the first partition. if zeroes are written over that first partition, rsrc is gone. 08:20 < josh_> though I'm sure diskmode has its own simple fonts compiled in, as I would expect 08:21 < josh_> after all, diskmode has to be reliable even in broken-drive situations. however, retailos doesn't. 08:21 < cdm> josh - yes, I realize. But when you make a real product you don't the main app to be crippled due to the user deleting all the folders on the main partition. 08:21 < cdm> ie: going into disk mode 08:21 < cdm> the two need to be de-coupled 08:22 < josh_> ok, fair point. I wasn't thinking about the retail environment. 08:22 < EvilDude> josh_: one quick thing, does the retailos have it's own diskmode? 08:22 < cdm> yeah - it's the difference between having fun hacking on something that doesn't have to survive 30 million users and making a product that does. ;) 08:22 < josh_> EvilDude: yes, don't you notice the difference in appearance on color iPods? 08:22 < josh_> the big red do not disconnect sign vs the small black one? 08:22 < EvilDude> ahh never tried disk mode in the color one 08:22 < EvilDude> only on 3g 08:23 < EvilDude> when i presumed that they were different 08:23 < josh_> 1g's and 2g's didn't have a difference 08:23 < josh_> but 3g+ do 08:23 < EvilDude> yeah 08:24 < cdm> nothing like increasing the size of the images 8x, in color depth alone 08:25 < EvilDude> cdm: you guys killed 2 pairs of MD33 earphones :'( 08:25 < EvilDude> is there some sort of power being sent through the right earphone connection 08:26 < BHSPitLappy> sure 08:26 < BHSPitLappy> I think 08:26 < EvilDude> somehow more than the left? 08:26 < EvilDude> ok 08:26 < EvilDude> http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?threadid=144425 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> not sure about that. 08:27 < EvilDude> LOTS of people are complaining that the right earphones are dying when used with the pod 08:27 < liat> hmm 08:27 < EvilDude> and it explains why 2 pairs of MD33's had their right earphone become a LOT quieter all of a sudden 08:27 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:27 < liat> I've heard that too 08:28 < EvilDude> and it's odd because people say too loud etc etc 08:28 < EvilDude> but if the iPod can support it then doesnt matter 08:28 < EvilDude> and also 08:28 < EvilDude> the left is perfectly fine :| 08:28 < EvilDude> if my new pair of headphones also die then i'll go crazy :P but i doubt that seeing they can handle a lot more than the earphones i guess 08:29 < BHSPitLappy> ha, I like the armband ad where the guy's wearing a 4G on his forearm playing some sport 08:29 < BHSPitLappy> no headphones or anything 08:30 < BHSPitLappy> just apparently wanted to have his iPod on to look sporty :) 08:30 < liat> dork :D 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> http://adserver.ilounge.com/assets/ads/16marware/marwareanimatedgif.gif 08:31 < liat> (oh yeah, if you scratch your nano, and you don't have Brasso, Silvo ISN'T a good alternative) 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> :S 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> my nano got brasso'd today 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> my mom wanted to consider silvo for the back 08:31 < liat> mm 08:31 < liat> no 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> what happened? 08:31 < liat> It screwed my iPod sooo bad 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> sorry 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> send it to apple :P 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> or Silvo :D 08:32 < liat> I wasn't stupid enough to use it on the front 08:32 < liat> But the back is just like sand-papered 08:32 < liat> :| 08:32 < EvilDude> cdm: just wondering, is your job concerning the hardware that goes into the iPod? 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> do the brushing thing that's so popular 08:33 < liat> The fact that the silvo was 'bout 9 years old didn't help either 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> haha -> http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/clothing/ipod-underwear-has-arrived-142337.php 08:34 < EvilDude> =\ 08:35 < liat> ... 08:35 < liat> I wish I was ripped :( 08:36 < liat> I think the apple advertisement scheme has gone a little too far... 08:36 < BHSPitLappy> liat: http://members.optusnet.com.au/brushedipod/ 08:38 < liat> cool 08:38 < liat> that's like a save after scrathing the back 08:43 < spazzium> HOLY crap 08:43 < spazzium> EvilDude: thanks for linking that iLounge forum 08:43 < spazzium> the same thing just started happening on a set of ksc75 headphones 08:44 < EvilDude> its sad :( 08:44 < EvilDude> 100 bucks down the drain 08:44 < EvilDude> yet I need semi decent ones =\ 08:44 * liat is getting damaged archives from (http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/) 08:44 < liat> the zips are fine 08:45 < liat> the gz gets ugly 08:45 < spazzium> EvilDude: your right headphone blew too? 08:45 < EvilDude> 2 pairs of MD33's 08:45 < EvilDude> right still works, but is about 10 times quieter than it should be :( 08:46 < spazzium> that blows! 08:46 < EvilDude> yeah, I blamed the first one for me sleeping with them on 08:46 < EvilDude> assuming i somehow killed them like that 08:46 < spazzium> I'm gonna pony up and get a set of pmx200's as soon as they hit regular US distribution 08:46 < EvilDude> but then the second pair had the same problem - and i didnt sleep on them much :P 08:47 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: rig up some little voltage cap 08:49 < EvilDude> hm spazzium are the pmx200 really that good? I have a crappy pair of panasonics i found here (cost about 30 US or so) and they're ok, but bass isnt strong enough for me =\ 08:49 < EvilDude> I need good bass headphones / earphones 08:49 < spazzium> EvilDude: never personally listened to them... just listened to headphone people compare them to 08:49 < EvilDude> ah ok 08:50 < EvilDude> I need to get to a place where i can just listen to lots of headphones :p 08:50 < spazzium> if we both order a set at the same time it'll split shipping to the point where it's not outrageous 08:50 < EvilDude> i dont think that exists in Australia though :( 08:50 < liat> are the iPod default headhpones supposed to be lacking in the bass depo? 08:50 < EvilDude> haha spazzium i'm in australia ;) 08:50 < spazzium> ahhh 08:50 < spazzium> hahaha 08:50 < spazzium> never mind 08:50 < EvilDude> yeah it sucks :p 08:50 < EvilDude> well meant to be in australia 08:50 < spazzium> actually I wonder if they've hit australia 08:50 < EvilDude> heh nothing hits australia 08:50 < spazzium> hehehe 08:50 < EvilDude> i had to import god damn MD33's 08:50 < spazzium> wow. 08:50 < EvilDude> cheaper to import from japan - audiocubes.com rule 08:50 < spazzium> that's uh 08:51 < spazzium> japanese imports to the states REALLY suck 08:51 < spazzium> I've had to do it a few times 08:51 < liat> $$$ 08:51 < spazzium> yeah. 08:51 < EvilDude> yeah? 08:51 < EvilDude> hmm have you tried audiocubes.com 08:51 < EvilDude> its pretty good 08:53 < spazzium> heh 08:53 < spazzium> the japanese hate the germans 08:53 < spazzium> no sennheiser products :) 08:56 < EvilDude> hahahaha 09:00 < spazzium> liat: the ipod headphones are lacking in everything 09:01 < liat> :D 09:01 < spazzium> they just suck. 09:01 < liat> I know 09:01 < liat> Just wondering why 09:01 < liat> Apple could've finished what they started 09:01 < EvilDude> haha they arent THAT bad 09:01 < EvilDude> i think they're ok 09:01 < EvilDude> just bad when you start using good headphones :p 09:01 < liat> They have good highs, sad mids, and REALLY bad lows 09:01 < spazzium> compare them to any other supraural headphone 09:01 < liat> no comparison 09:02 < spazzium> their highs are shrill 09:02 < EvilDude> they compare a lot to the sony ex71 actually 09:02 < EvilDude> because both suck ;) 09:02 < EvilDude> the highs hurt a lot in the sony's 09:03 < spazzium> EvilDude: see if you can lay hands on a local pair of ksc35's or 75's 09:03 < spazzium> really good sound for the price 09:03 < EvilDude> how much? 09:03 < spazzium> got mine for 13 dollars 09:04 < spazzium> 75's 09:04 < spazzium> 35's generally have better sound to most ears, but I think they're less comfortable 09:04 < EvilDude> ah ok, thats pretty damn good 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> wow 09:05 * BHSPitLappy never wants to return to ipodgarage.com 09:07 < liat> :D wouldn't it be cool if someone ported terminator x to iPod Linux? 09:07 -!- Benji_ [i=Dksar@dsl-hkigw7-fe15f900-1.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 09:07 < BHSPitLappy> liat: I've already covered that idea :) 09:07 < liat> :( 09:07 < BHSPitLappy> and concluded that the ipod just doesn't have the power :D 09:08 < liat> didn't work? 09:08 < liat> ah 09:08 < liat> kk 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> no, didn't try 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> but... it's a cpu-intensive app on the PC 09:08 < Benji_> what's the topic of discussion? :) 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: nothing, really. 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> :D wouldn't it be cool if someone ported terminator x to iPod Linux? 09:08 < EvilDude> hm lets talk about something possible why dont we 09:08 < EvilDude> like viewing artwork on my 5g :) 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> what kind of artwork 09:09 < EvilDude> album artwork :p 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> umm 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> k 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapwizard/23324213/in/pool-make/ 09:09 < Benji_> hehe, i don't even know what terminator x is 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> ^ awesome! 09:09 < EvilDude> Does anyone know if the iPod stores multiple copies of the same artwork for each song in it's artworkdb or are all the songs linked to same art 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: lets you "scratch" mp3's 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> like a DJ 09:09 < liat> terminator x lets you scratch mp3's 09:09 < Benji_> who needs that ;) 09:09 < liat> it would be cool with the scroll wheel 09:09 < liat> :D 09:10 < BHSPitLappy> indeed 09:10 < EvilDude> heh how about playback on COp first :) ? 09:10 < liat> ? 09:10 < EvilDude> playback of mp3's 09:10 < EvilDude> normally 09:10 < liat> ipl plays mp3's 09:10 < liat> (one of it's modules does) 09:11 < EvilDude> heh like using mpd in the background perfectly 09:11 < EvilDude> without wasting processor power of one proc 09:11 < EvilDude> but instead using the second core for mp3 :) 09:11 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: what are you waiting for? sounds like you just volunteered! 09:12 < Benji_> anyone know if there will be ogg support? 09:12 < liat> why not? 09:12 < liat> isn't OGG open-source? 09:12 < EvilDude> heh trust me if I had the skills I would 09:13 < josh_> EvilDude: aegray's done some cop work for mp3dec, you might want to talk to him 09:13 < EvilDude> josh_ na no point - 5g + 3g only :( 09:14 < EvilDude> unless it also uses iram which would change a lot of things :p 09:14 < EvilDude> aegray: you around? 09:15 < EvilDude> haven't talked to him in ages :( 09:17 < liat> man, it's already 4.15 09:17 < BHSPitLappy> 3:15 here 09:17 < spazzium> [04:17] < liat> man, it's already 4.15 09:17 < spazzium> :) 09:17 < liat> lol 09:18 < liat> my watch says 4.15 09:18 < Benji_> 11:18 here 09:18 < spazzium> the intertron says you are wrong :) 09:18 < liat> my wristwatch 09:18 < liat> intertron is wrong! 09:19 < BHSPitLappy> 19 09:21 < liat> BHSPitLappy:Where do you live? 09:22 < BHSPitLappy> ...stalker 09:22 < BHSPitLappy> CST! 09:22 < liat> :( 09:22 < liat> In in est 09:22 < EvilDude> hmm 09:22 < EvilDude> Alright, I haven't noticed a crackling yet... but my ipod spends most of its time playing through my cars audio system. Someone try to verify this one for me. I have separate powered woofers, and when switching tracks I notice a thumping noise. It's less apparent when the track ends and the ipod moves to the next track on its own. This thump seems to be between 25 and 40 Hz... and would easily do this kind of damage, especially if it's causing clipping 09:22 < EvilDude> someone on digg 09:23 < EvilDude> need to test that somehow =\ 09:24 < Lex> im in EEST ;) 09:26 < spazzium> EvilDude: you using line level out? or just straight out of the headphone jack? 09:26 < EvilDude> headphone 09:26 < EvilDude> the comment I posted is someone probably on line out though :s not sure 09:27 < spazzium> not getting anything here 09:27 < spazzium> I have an extremely noise free system, it's jacked all the way up 09:27 < EvilDude> hm damn 09:27 < EvilDude> maybe he's wrong :( 09:27 < EvilDude> i wonder what is causing the problem then 09:27 < spazzium> it could just be your car's amplifier? 09:28 < liat> oh no! 09:28 < EvilDude> not mine!! someone on digg's ;) 09:28 < liat> iTunes just locked up when I told it to convert 5.8gb of ID3 info 09:30 < spazzium> hahaha 09:30 < EvilDude> anyway im gonna go 09:30 < EvilDude> before i go actually 09:30 < EvilDude> any good ideas for a module :p 09:30 < liat> hmm 09:30 < EvilDude> chopper is boring to do :P 09:30 < liat> better music playback 09:30 < liat> fast forward 09:30 < liat> rewind 09:30 < liat> etc. 09:31 < EvilDude> heh 09:31 < EvilDude> i forgot the world simple 09:31 < EvilDude> simple external module 09:31 < EvilDude> ah screw it 09:31 < EvilDude> got a card game engine to work on :P 09:31 < EvilDude> cya 09:31 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.119] has quit [] 09:35 < Benji_> where can i find newest build of podzilla? 09:36 < Benji_> found it.. 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> hahah! 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: have you seen this site? http://www.ipodarcade.com/1.0.php 09:38 < liat> grrr 09:38 < liat> Are those for ipl? 09:38 < BHSPitLappy> yea 09:38 < BHSPitLappy> they're all part of podzilla :P 09:39 < liat> they look stolen 09:39 < BHSPitLappy> they pretty much are... 09:39 < BHSPitLappy> they didn't make them 09:39 < BHSPitLappy> they're just part of podzilla, like I said 09:39 < liat> wow 09:39 < josh_> *why* did someone make that site? 09:39 < BHSPitLappy> no clue. 09:39 < josh_> it looks really oddly professional 09:39 < liat> but I guess they can technically do that, they aren't copyrighted 09:40 < josh_> ahem... 09:40 < josh_> they are. 09:40 < josh_> they're just licensed rather permissively 09:40 < BHSPitLappy> someone should contact them... 09:40 < josh_> yeah, it doesn't exactly look like they're distributing source 09:40 < BHSPitLappy> it seems like they take credit for "podzilla", and misinforms about it to boot 09:40 < josh_> http://www.ipodarcade.com/5.0.php 09:40 < liat> Take our f*cking games off your damn site bitches! 09:41 < liat> who made most of the games? 09:41 < BHSPitLappy> "iPodArcade.com was created in 1979 by two people who realized the demand for ipod games would soon reach an all time high." 09:41 < josh_> well they're perfectly at liberty to distribute podzilla, just as long as they don't misrepresent who it's from and as long as they distribute source. 09:41 < josh_> HA! 09:41 < liat> ... 09:41 < josh_> iPods weren't even around in 1979! 09:41 < Benji_> hehe 09:41 < liat> nieghter was apple 09:41 < liat> wait 09:41 < BHSPitLappy> wasn't it? 09:41 < liat> yeah it as 09:41 < BHSPitLappy> lol 09:41 < liat> but just barely 09:42 < BHSPitLappy> the Apple II came out in 84, right? 09:42 < BHSPitLappy> famous commercial 09:42 < BHSPitLappy> "Currently, the iPodArcade-recommended Podzilla environment allows for arcade games on older generation iPods, including the Original iPod and the Third Generation iPod. " 09:42 < liat> the ipodgames.com site is soo lame 09:43 < liat> but they do use CSS-based design 09:43 < liat> you gotta give them that 09:43 < BHSPitLappy> they DO link to ipodlinux.org for source code, contribution etc 09:43 < BHSPitLappy> but still 09:43 < josh_> haha 09:43 < BHSPitLappy> it's all another sickening aspect of the internet :) 09:43 < josh_> README in the windowsinstaller file: 09:44 < josh_> This is a windows NT/2000/XP/2003 installer for Bernard Leach's port of 09:44 < josh_> Linux to the iPod (http://ipodlinux.sf.net). 09:44 < josh_> ... 09:44 < liat> Do they not understand the concept of PHP? 09:44 < liat> theres a page for every link, first of all 09:44 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: wha? is it not the official one? 09:44 < josh_> it is 09:44 < josh_> (the official one) 09:45 < liat> second, the filenames are soo descriptive: 1.0.php, 2.0.php, 3.0.php 09:45 < liat> :D 09:45 < josh_> the point is that it makes no reference at all to iPodArcade, further proving they didn't do much work on this. 09:46 < liat> and third, the creater's nammes are "unnamed" and "anonymous" 09:46 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: do you plan on contacting them? they DIDN'T actually claim to the software...but on the other hand, they talk about it like it's theirs, and misinform about it 09:47 < josh_> I don't know, I've brought it up in .dev. 09:47 < josh_> Er wait... that officially doesn't exist. 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> .dev or -dev? 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> ah 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> lol 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> secretive little... 09:51 < liat> ... 09:57 < Benji_> how can i add games to podzilla, do i need to make a new build? 09:58 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: use podzilla2 instead :D 09:58 < BHSPitLappy> but the answer is yes 09:58 < liat> :D 09:58 < liat> speaking of PZ2 09:58 < liat> The archives I got were damaged 09:58 < BHSPitLappy> ~pz2 nightlies 09:59 < Benji_> where can i find pz2 nightlies? 09:59 < liat> Since i'm at a winxp station currently, WinRAR is all I have to open gz's 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> I use filzip 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> opens tar.gz, rar, everything 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> well, not bzip :S 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> but that's the only limitation i've run into 09:59 < liat> ; 10:00 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: type what I typed, the bot will tell you 10:00 < BHSPitLappy> liat: the archive is fine, I tested it now 10:00 < liat> kk 10:00 < liat> then WinRAR chokes 10:01 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 < BHSPitLappy> yup yup 10:01 < Benji_> ~pz2 nightlies 10:02 < Benji_> can i update from pz to pz2 with same way as upgrading pz to a newer version? 10:03 < Benji_> (copying to files to the root of the ipod) 10:04 < spazzium> Benji_: there are some extra stuff you need 10:04 < spazzium> check ipodlinux.org/podzilla 10:06 < Benji_> is pz2 already good one? 10:06 < spazzium> umm 10:06 < spazzium> well 10:06 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: on that nightlies page, you need one of each thing 10:06 < spazzium> doesn't play music or videos yet :) 10:06 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 10:06 < BHSPitLappy> Appearance, Modules, and podzilla itself 10:07 < spazzium> yeah, but it looks much much better 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium: there's a legend of this thing called the music player daemon 10:07 < spazzium> I too have heard the stories. 10:07 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> only two people have seen it, one is dead, and the other is in an insane asylum. 10:07 < haxorninja> hey anyone know how to fix this 10:07 < haxorninja> inux:/home/paul/Desktop # cp iDoom /mnt/ipod/home 10:07 < haxorninja> cp: omitting directory `iDoom 10:07 < spazzium> hahaha 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: try cp -r 10:08 < liat> LOL 10:08 < liat> oh, nm 10:08 < liat> get it? 10:08 < liat> (CPR) 10:08 < liat> :P 10:08 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 10:08 < BHSPitLappy> ok 10:09 < liat> I know that he meant to use cp -r, but cpr! 10:10 < haxorninja> hey spazzium 10:10 < spazzium> yo 10:10 < haxorninja> do you remember how I made that symboloic link from my vfat home folder to my ext2 home folder for my video's 10:10 < haxorninja> I forgot what syntax I used 10:11 < spazzium> ln -s /destination/direcotory /local/file 10:11 < spazzium> creates a softlink 10:11 < spazzium> *soft link 10:11 < haxorninja> so I would mount my vfat? 10:12 < haxorninja> then /mnt/ipod/home/"BLAH.avi" /THEN WHAT? 10:12 < haxorninja> (the then what needs to be my ipod's ext2 /home folder 10:12 < spazzium> right 10:12 < spazzium> no quotes around anything 10:12 < BHSPitLappy> what the hell are you trying to accomplish? 10:13 < spazzium> and it's retarded to link to a single video 10:13 < spazzium> why not link to a whole directory? 10:13 < BHSPitLappy> that's how i have it. 10:13 < haxorninja> ok so I will do /mnt/ipod/home /but_what_goes_here 10:13 < BHSPitLappy> I have a symlink in my root dir called Videos, to /mnt/Videos 10:13 < Gnub> hmm 10:14 < BHSPitLappy> the path of the link... 10:14 < Gnub> tried playing an avi said sound or whatever is null 10:14 < Gnub> any1 see this before 10:14 < haxorninja> but how will it know that when I say "/mnt/ipod/home" is on my ext2 partition 10:14 < haxorninja> and not my vfat 10:14 < Gnub> which is kinda wierd cause snd works for mp3's and "dialer" etc 10:15 < liat> mount('your/mom/'); 10:15 < liat> :D 10:15 < liat> *gasp* 10:15 < liat> mount('/your/mom/'); 10:16 < haxorninja> I am going out of town in 30 minutes 10:16 < haxorninja> I need this! 10:16 < haxorninja> oh well brb 10:16 < Gnub> heh 10:16 < liat> wheres the non-nightly builds of pz2? 10:17 < liat> filzip doesn't like either of the archives I downloaded 10:19 < BHSPitLappy> liat: the non-nighlies? 10:19 < BHSPitLappy> the ones you svn and build yourself? 10:20 < liat> I dunno, official releases? 10:20 < liat> Binaries 10:20 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: try resetting, and then playing the video 10:20 < josh_> liat: there aren't any yet, it's still very much in development 10:20 < BHSPitLappy> liat: pz2? official release? ha 10:20 < josh_> the nightlies *are* binaries 10:20 < josh_> and I'm pretty sure the zip is fine 10:20 < spazzium> technically I guess they're releases too :) 10:20 < liat> but my friends comp doesn't like them 10:20 < BHSPitLappy> i think he had a problem with the gz 10:20 < Gnub> aight BHSPitLappy 10:20 < BHSPitLappy> which i tested 10:20 < liat> the only problem is with the gz 10:20 < BHSPitLappy> and works 10:21 < Gnub> put a "smaller file on there 10:21 < spazzium> liat: use winrar 10:21 < liat> I did 10:21 < liat> and then filzip 10:21 < Gnub> is there a size limit to the avi? 10:21 < BHSPitLappy> Gn22GB 10:21 < BHSPitLappy> ack 10:21 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: 2GB 10:21 < Gnub> damn 10:21 < BHSPitLappy> damn fingers/// 10:21 < BHSPitLappy> GAH! 10:22 < Gnub> could my podzilla be outdated? 10:22 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: Settings>About 10:22 < Gnub> "audio buffer is NULL 10:22 < Gnub> error 10:22 < BHSPitLappy> and you haven't played anything first? 10:23 < Gnub> like an mp3? 10:23 < BHSPitLappy> yes 10:23 < BHSPitLappy> that would cause that... reboot, then play the video before ANY other media 10:23 < BHSPitLappy> see if it works 10:24 < Gnub> thats what i did 10:25 < Gnub> still nothin 10:25 < Gnub> might be a bum kernel? 10:25 < BHSPitLappy> Settings>About 10:26 < Gnub> 2005-09-16cvs 10:26 < BHSPitLappy> hehe 10:26 < BHSPitLappy> i'd say that's *pretty* old 10:26 < BHSPitLappy> definitely update 10:26 < Gnub> its 06 aint it 10:26 < BHSPitLappy> umm no 10:26 < BHSPitLappy> september 16, 2005 10:27 < BHSPitLappy> that's from before I even got into this project :P 10:27 < Gnub> ugh im pretty sure its 2006 10:27 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: :P 10:29 < haxorninja> ok BHSPitLappy 10:29 < haxorninja> quick question 10:29 < haxorninja> I mount my vfat sda2 partition, there is a dir called home, I made it. In there are my video's 10:29 < haxorninja> how can I sim link that to my home folder on my ext2 partitin 10:30 < haxorninja> anyone can answer, I really have to go soon so I am panicing 10:30 < BHSPitLappy> that's not really how links work 10:31 < BHSPitLappy> it doesn't "merge" two different directories...it's just a shortcut, like in windows 10:31 < haxorninja> so what can I do? 10:31 < haxorninja> I did it before, linked my home in linux to home in the fat32 partition 10:31 < BHSPitLappy> whatever you want to do... 10:31 < haxorninja> I just forgot the syntax. It isn't working 10:32 < haxorninja> ahhh nevermind 10:32 < haxorninja> I just don't understand how it differentiates my linux /mnt/ipod/home with my windows /mnt/ipod/home 10:33 < liat> automagikally? 10:33 < haxorninja> thanks... 10:33 < liat> welcome 10:34 < BHSPitLappy> what's the folder called on fat32 10:37 < BHSPitLappy> @ haxorninja 10:37 < haxorninja> /mnt/ipod/home 10:38 < haxorninja> then the folder in linux is /mnt/ipod/home also 10:38 < haxorninja> so I am really confused 10:39 < BHSPitLappy> that doesn't make sense. 10:39 < BHSPitLappy> on the fat partition, there's a folder called ipod? 10:41 < haxorninja> yeah 10:41 < haxorninja> I go to /mnt/ipod/home 10:41 < BHSPitLappy> well 10:41 < haxorninja> on the fat partition 10:41 < BHSPitLappy> on your PC, the fat partition is /mnt/ipod? 10:41 < haxorninja> in ipod there is the normal Contacts and Notes and stuff 10:41 < haxorninja> yes it is 10:41 < BHSPitLappy> so there's NOT a folder on the fat partition called ipod 10:41 < BHSPitLappy> like you said 10:42 < haxorninja> uhh 10:42 < haxorninja> sure 10:42 < BHSPitLappy> so if you looked at your fat partition, you would or wouldn't see "Calendar, Contacts, iPod, ..." 10:43 < haxorninja> I would 10:43 < haxorninja> not iPod though 10:43 < haxorninja> ok ok here I mount my ipod and the fat partition 10:43 < BHSPitLappy> that was the point of the question. 10:43 < haxorninja> then I go to /mnt/ipod 10:43 < haxorninja> and I see contacts notes home (i created for my video's) 10:43 < Benji_> hmm can't get pz2 working on nano 10:44 < BHSPitLappy> where is the fat partition mounted, and where is the ext2 mounted? 10:44 < Benji_> copied the latest nightlies 10:44 < haxorninja> sda2 for fat 10:44 < haxorninja> sda3 for ext2 10:44 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: i asked where they're mounted 10:44 < BHSPitLappy> type "mount" 10:44 < BHSPitLappy> paste the results in .help 10:47 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit ["penis"] 10:48 < BHSPitLappy> gawd that dude's annoying... 10:48 < Benji_> why do i get:"Bad Command or filename 10:49 < BHSPitLappy> because your command or filename is bad? 10:49 < Benji_> hmm 10:49 < liat> Could Not Load Module: libstdcxx; Out Of Memory 10:49 < BHSPitLappy> why do I get incomplete questions thrown at me in here? 10:49 < BHSPitLappy> :) 10:49 < liat> iPod Nano = less memory? 10:49 < BHSPitLappy> liat: ipod in general + linux = not so good memory mgmt :) 10:50 < Benji_> i was writing more but got interrupted :) 10:50 -!- liat [n=bot@wrls-12-111-231-254.bowlingreen.oh.speednet.net] has quit [] 10:50 < BHSPitLappy> liat: are you launching ... nvm 10:50 < Benji_> now it bootet to pz2 but it is slooow and ugly.. 10:52 < cdm> Benji - of course, it's linux. Would you expect any less. 10:53 * josh_ would really like to give cdm a good hard kick right now 10:53 < josh_> (but I won't) 10:53 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: go to settings>appearance 10:54 < BHSPitLappy> or just all of settings, one by one :) 10:54 < cdm> josh - oh come on now. Pretty UI's is not what linux is known for. 10:55 < josh_> I know, I was just a bit annoyed at the way you phrased it :-) 10:55 < cdm> ahhh - well, I like to be sarcastic on this channel. Mr. aegray gave me the habit. ;) 10:56 < BHSPitLappy> "When you program open-source, you're programming communism. 10:56 < BHSPitLappy> +" 10:56 < cdm> hahaha 10:56 < spazzium> hahahaha 10:56 -!- Gnub [n=Gnub@EV-ESR1-72-49-116-101.fuse.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:57 < cdm> I like this one better - "Open source shows you just how low average really is." 10:57 < BHSPitLappy> is that why Darwin went open? :) 10:57 < cdm> hahahaha 10:58 < cdm> Darwin really isn't developed in an open source way, it just happens to have it's source avaliable. 10:58 < cdm> and the core linux kernel is actually pretty good. 10:58 < cdm> but the vast majority of the open source code is pretty horrid. 10:59 < cdm> anyways - I just like that line. 10:59 < cdm> it's pretty funny 10:59 * BHSPitLappy racks cdm for no apparent reason 10:59 < cdm> :) 10:59 * cdm can still be reached as cdm@debian.org 11:00 < BHSPitLappy> :D 11:00 < spazzium> what projects did you work on? 11:00 < BHSPitLappy> I'm still not sure exactly what your job is 11:00 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-143-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:00 < cdm> I was a package maintainer for gtkclock and windowmaker 11:00 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: "Senior Engineer, eh? - iPod Division" - not sure if "Division" is the actual word 11:00 < spazzium> oh, cool 11:01 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:01 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-218-130.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodLinux 11:01 < haxorninja> hey BHSPitLappy 11:01 < haxorninja> /dev/sda2 on /mnt/ipod type vfat (rw) 11:01 < haxorninja> /dev/sda3 on /mnt/ipod type ext2 (rw) 11:01 < BHSPitLappy> no 11:01 < BHSPitLappy> ok 11:01 < spazzium> heh 11:01 < haxorninja> no I am saying thats where they are mounted 11:01 < BHSPitLappy> 2 lines 11:01 < BHSPitLappy> fine 11:01 < josh_> they're both mounted to the same spot? 11:01 < cdm> BHSPitLappy - ah, unless you come and work at Apple you never will. :) 11:01 < haxorninja> I have a folder Video on my fat with some video's in it 11:01 < josh_> I always know when I do that by accident because nautilus crashes :-) 11:01 < cdm> or I leave and update my resume. :) 11:02 < spazzium> bwahaha 11:02 < haxorninja> I want to link that folder to my home folder in my ext2 partition 11:02 < haxorninja> if anyone can tell me 11:02 < BHSPitLappy> cdm: I'll try not to spill anything while I'm there, make your job easier ;) 11:02 < haxorninja> I will....well I will be happy 11:02 * spazzium imagines watching nauliu's jaw drop 11:02 < spazzium> *nautilus 11:02 < cdm> http://killerstuff.net/resume.html 11:02 < cdm> actually, it already says something on my resume. 11:02 < Zyrill> hi again guys 11:03 < Zyrill> damn you're still here... 11:03 < cdm> I didn't realize I had updated it at all 11:03 < Zyrill> or again here? 11:03 < cdm> who? 11:03 < josh_> "Worked on next-generation software platform for iPod devices." Ooh, fun... ditching the monstrosity known as retailos? 11:03 < spazzium> graduated 2000? I bet you actually get a job didn't you 11:03 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:03 < Zyrill> spazzium BHSPitLappy and haxorninja 11:03 < haxorninja> mm 11:03 < BHSPitLappy> don't ever do that again. 11:03 < cdm> spazz? 11:04 < spazzium> yea? 11:04 < Zyrill> BHSPitLappy: do you mean me? 11:04 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 11:04 < cdm> what do you mean about getting a job? 11:05 < BHSPitLappy> mass highlights = not cool 11:05 < Zyrill> did i wake you up? sry :) 11:05 < Zyrill> well cdm asked... 11:05 < cdm> we have a team of people recruiting people and we can't fill positions. 11:05 < spazzium> as in being employed 11:05 < Zyrill> i'm sorry though - won't happen again 11:05 < cdm> lots of people to interview, no one to hire 11:05 < Zyrill> cdm: where are you working? 11:05 < spazzium> hahaha 11:05 < Benji_> is there any screenshots of pz2? 11:05 < Zyrill> if i may be so bold as to ask 11:05 < spazzium> no good developers left eh? 11:05 < cdm> Zyrill - apple 11:05 < Zyrill> oh alright, thanks 11:06 < haxorninja> spazzium 11:06 < cdm> spazz - yeah, google seems to be a magnet right now 11:06 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar6.png http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar7.png 11:06 < cdm> and there aren't a lot of embedded people with the chops to make it thru our interview process. 11:06 < spazzium> they just made a big recruting push here 11:06 < haxorninja> you helped me make a link before from my vfat video's to my ext2 folder 11:06 < haxorninja> how did you do that 11:06 < haxorninja> @spazzium 11:06 < spazzium> listen, it's really simple haxorninja 11:06 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:06 < Zyrill> tried russia? the company i worked at had lots of phds from russia coding fortran for asset and portfolio-management software... 11:06 < spazzium> you've made a shortcut in windows before right? 11:07 < haxorninja> yes 11:07 < spazzium> this is a very similar concept for your uses 11:07 < spazzium> so let's say I made a windows shortcut called 'foo' 11:07 < haxorninja> ha alright 11:08 < spazzium> and this shortcut when clicked took me to /dir/foo 11:08 < Zyrill> heh and what about all the devs in here? or do they all have jobs already? heh... is that why you're here? :D 11:08 < haxorninja> alright 11:08 < cdm> nah - I just like to watch the devs hack 11:08 < spazzium> now if I were to do the same thing in linux the line to create would look like ln -s /dir/foo /foo 11:09 < Zyrill> i see =) well, from a professional point of view - how are they coming along? 11:09 < haxorninja> I see. So if I want to link something in my vfat to something in my ext2 11:09 < haxorninja> which would I mount 11:09 < spazzium> right 11:09 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 < spazzium> your vfat should be mounted to /mnt 11:09 < spazzium> if things are setup correctly 11:10 < spazzium> err 11:10 < spazzium> I think... yeah 11:10 * spazzium looks at his rc 11:10 < BHSPitLappy> yep 11:10 < haxorninja> /dev/sda2 on /mnt/ipod type vfat (rw) 11:10 < spazzium> ok 11:10 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: he means in the ipod 11:10 < haxorninja> ok yeah 11:10 < spazzium> well hold on 11:10 < BHSPitLappy> haxorninja: on your pc, different devices are in different folders in /mnt 11:10 < spazzium> that's what it's mounted to under linux 11:11 < spazzium> that's not how it's mounted within the ipod 11:11 < BHSPitLappy> on the ipod, in linux, the fat partition is just /mnt 11:11 < haxorninja> ahhhh 11:11 < haxorninja> confused 11:11 < Zyrill> might i bother anybody for another hint, please? is ipod_os_partition_backup the orig_firmware.bin that's referenced in the Loader_2-wiki-page? 11:11 < josh_> yes 11:12 < Zyrill> thx 11:12 < spazzium> so let's say there was a directory called 'home' sitting on your fat32 partition 11:12 < cdm> Zyrill - not bad considering they don't have docs 11:12 < spazzium> so sitting in the same directory that shows up when you mount your ipod and browse it in windows 11:12 < haxorninja> ok 11:13 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit ["penis"] 11:13 < spazzium> you'd type something like ln -s /mnt/home /home 11:13 < Zyrill> looks like we have some idle (and on top of that consummate) minds floating around in here then... 11:14 < spazzium> consummate? teaching soft linking? 11:14 < Zyrill> lol naah... getting along with development rather well 11:14 < spazzium> haha 11:14 < spazzium> GOOD! :) 11:15 < Zyrill> ah i love the the master and commander soundtrack 11:15 < Zyrill> =) 11:16 < spazzium> did he just leave in the middle of my little 'spiel' with a quit message of 'penis'? 11:16 < Benji_> i restored my ipod. copied modules and appearance folders and files podzilla and start to the root of my nano and when rebooting nothing happens. it goes to apple's os 11:16 < Zyrill> lol yes 11:16 < spazzium> that little shit. 11:16 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium: yes, I believe that's exactly what happened. 11:16 < Benji_> i tried to press forwind when booting 11:16 < BHSPitLappy> which is why i stopped trying to help him after the last time, 10 minutes ago 11:16 < spazzium> hahahaha 11:16 < BHSPitLappy> where i have him the EXACT command to use. 11:16 < spazzium> good call. 11:16 < Zyrill> heh, i could have told you hours ago who's mind's offspawn he was, could i? 11:16 < BHSPitLappy> before returning to ask you the same question. 11:17 < Zyrill> lol 11:17 < Benji_> can anyone help pleas? 11:17 < spazzium> I think my help investment for the night was just spent 11:17 < Zyrill> depends... 11:17 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: grrr :) 11:18 * Zyrill giggles 11:18 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium: spent != wasted 11:18 < spazzium> ok 11:18 < spazzium> wasted and spent 11:18 < spazzium> err 11:18 < BHSPitLappy> spwasted! 11:19 < spazzium> wasted && spent 11:19 < Zyrill> lol 11:19 < BHSPitLappy> wasted, like I'm wasted on up-all-night-edness 11:19 < spazzium> same here 11:19 < spazzium> [06:19] < spazzium> same here 11:19 < BHSPitLappy> why do we all prefer #ipodlinux over sleep? 11:19 < Zyrill> where are you guys from? usa? 11:19 < BHSPitLappy> duh 11:20 < BHSPitLappy> that's the official home of linux :D 11:20 < Zyrill> i thought that was sweden... 11:20 < BHSPitLappy> (shh! play along!) 11:20 < spazzium> hell, there's like a dozen hosts on here from Purdue 11:20 < Zyrill> sorry 11:20 < Zyrill> :) 11:20 < Benji_> finnish invetion though linux 11:20 < Zyrill> shit 11:20 < BHSPitLappy> did Conan invent it? :D 11:20 < Zyrill> scandinavian anyway :) 11:20 < Benji_> linus did :) 11:20 < Benji_> afk -> 11:21 < spazzium> Lothar of the hill people did. 11:21 < Zyrill> Purdue? we have a prof. mark hoffman from purdue here in darmstadt right now 11:21 < spazzium> Linus needs to be smacked for the crap he was spewing about gnome 11:21 < spazzium> hoffman, I so know that name 11:21 < BHSPitLappy> what did he say? 11:21 < BHSPitLappy> i thought he liked kde 11:22 < Zyrill> when it says: make_fw -g gen do i put in 4 or photo? 11:22 -!- midkay [n=midkay@24.143.70.99] has joined #ipodlinux 11:22 < BHSPitLappy> I think he just likes KDE because it makes Linux more relatable to the common Windows user: similar interface, inexplicable crashes, etc 11:23 < spazzium> hahaha 11:23 < Zyrill> i like kde better as well though... all those spiffy little ksomething programs are not to be sneezed at 11:23 < spazzium> nautilus owns konqurer 11:23 < Zyrill> achhhhhh... firefox owns them all 11:23 < spazzium> firefox fails as a file browser 11:24 < BHSPitLappy> ha 11:24 < spazzium> it just... does 11:24 < Zyrill> or do you mean as a file... yeah 11:24 < Zyrill> lol sry for being stupid 11:24 < BHSPitLappy> konquer = me being lazy 11:24 < spazzium> and because konquerer tries to do both, it also fails 11:24 < BHSPitLappy> which is most of the time :D 11:25 < Zyrill> so guys... any tips on that placeholder? 11:25 < spazzium> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/01/22/cnpixar22.xml&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2006/01/22/ixcitytop.html 11:25 < spazzium> whoh 11:25 < spazzium> huge link, talks about pixar purchase by disney 11:26 < Zyrill> shit 11:26 < cdm> go baby 11:26 < cdm> it will be like when apple bought NeXT 11:26 < BHSPitLappy> yeah, heard about that 11:26 < Zyrill> first they 're having themselves a beef and now pixar gets bought 11:26 < BHSPitLappy> funny 11:26 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 11:26 < cdm> ie: when NeXT took over Apple 11:26 < Zyrill> lol 11:26 < BHSPitLappy> they were partners, then pixar got pissed and they split 11:27 < BHSPitLappy> now they're about to get swallowed, maybe 11:27 < Zyrill> yeah... i thought disney was only their distributor? 11:27 < BHSPitLappy> they split, remember 11:28 < BHSPitLappy> Incredibles was the last partner thing, and they distinctly changed the presentation name...remember 11:28 < cdm> well, Disney basically did marketting and distribution 11:28 < BHSPitLappy> instead of a Disney-Pixar film, it was "A disney presentation of a pixar film" 11:28 < Zyrill> i might not have my facts all lined up... but yes, that much i remember 11:28 < BHSPitLappy> cracked me up 11:28 < cdm> anyways - much like when Apple needed a future and bought NeXT to give it to them... 11:28 < cdm> Disney needs a future too 11:29 < Zyrill> yes, the last good movie i remember was hercules... and that wasn't the best of em... 11:29 < BHSPitLappy> i liked the incredibles. 11:30 < BHSPitLappy> of course, that's really pixar's credit 11:30 < Zyrill> whereas pixar... well, need i say anything about how we all love their movies? especially the earlier ones where we still have a bit more geekiness :) 11:30 < BHSPitLappy> none of those CG movies would be good if they were cartoons 11:30 < Zyrill> i'm crediting incredibles to pixar entirely 11:30 < BHSPitLappy> indeed 11:31 < BHSPitLappy> they're geniuses, no doubt about that. 11:31 < Zyrill> i don't think there's a single bad pixar movie... one i didn't like 11:31 < BHSPitLappy> yup 11:31 < BHSPitLappy> did dreamworks do Antz? 11:31 < Zyrill> yes 11:31 < BHSPitLappy> i remember that game out right before a bugs life... 11:31 < Zyrill> was a bugs life pixar? 11:31 < BHSPitLappy> saw both...antz sucked 11:31 < BHSPitLappy> yes 11:32 < BHSPitLappy> ABL was way better :P 11:32 < Zyrill> i liked antz though... woody allen as Z :) sweet! 11:32 < BHSPitLappy> ah 11:32 < BHSPitLappy> *ha 11:32 < BHSPitLappy> i don't really remember most of it.. shows how unremarkable it was 11:33 -!- Gnub [n=Gnub@EV-ESR1-72-49-116-101.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:33 < Gnub> shitballs i killed my ipod 11:33 < Zyrill> i was so happy when i watched incredibles though... all my childhood superman etc. stuff + some rambo and james bond stuffed together in a single cool movie 11:33 < BHSPitLappy> we played an incredibles medley in band last year, with the middle schoolers 11:33 < BHSPitLappy> twas awexome :P 11:33 < Gnub> first time ive seen the "folder icon" in awhile 11:34 < Zyrill> BHSPitLappy: are you a teacher? 11:34 < BHSPitLappy> Zyrill: ha 11:34 < Gnub> hmm 11:34 < cdm> brad pitt cracks me up in True Romance 11:34 < BHSPitLappy> I'd sooner shoot myself 11:34 < Zyrill> i'm sorry, i don't understand the american school system... 11:34 < Zyrill> what are middle schoolers? 11:34 < cdm> Zyrill - grade 7 - 8/9 11:34 < Zyrill> and you are? 11:35 < BHSPitLappy> an 11th grader... 11:35 < Gnub> the "do not dissconnect" symbol is now frozen after i just finished the cmd to copy the new loader/kernel 11:35 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: that's queer 11:35 < Gnub> i havent touched it since i invoked that cmd 11:35 < Zyrill> but it's not yet university, right? (what is college compared to university anyway???) 11:35 < Gnub> i kno its trippin me out 11:35 < BHSPitLappy> a college is a specific school 11:35 < Gnub> just wanted to drop in a new kernel and its being a bitch 11:36 < BHSPitLappy> a university is made up of multiple colleges 11:36 < Zyrill> aha! i'm seeing the light 11:36 < BHSPitLappy> like UNT (future university! woot!) has a school of music 11:36 < BHSPitLappy> that i hope to get accepted to 11:36 < Zyrill> what is unt? 11:36 < BHSPitLappy> *into 11:36 < BHSPitLappy> university of north texas 11:36 < Zyrill> aha... is that the one in albuquersomething? 11:36 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 11:37 < Gnub> checkout this dmesg 11:37 < BHSPitLappy> albequerque (sp?) new mexico? 11:37 < Zyrill> i thought that was texas... 11:37 < BHSPitLappy> it's in Denton. 11:37 < Gnub> http://pastebin.com/517296 11:37 < Zyrill> alright, my bad =) 11:37 < BHSPitLappy> Zyrill: you seem to be short-ended about everything :( 11:37 < BHSPitLappy> :P 11:37 < Zyrill> only things that relate to usa... 11:38 < Zyrill> :p 11:39 < Zyrill> might have to do with me not being native... 11:39 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: in my professional opinion, from a completely technological and scientific standpoint, I would speculate that your predicament is, indeed, "that sucks!" 11:39 < Gnub> eh i dont care ill fix da beotch 11:39 < BHSPitLappy> yiah 11:39 -!- midkay [n=midkay@24.143.70.99] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 11:39 < Zyrill> lol 11:40 < Zyrill> and if you fail, you'll just have the most expensive brick EVAR! 11:40 < BHSPitLappy> there are definitely more expensive 11:41 < Zyrill> well an apple mini would do nicely as well 11:41 < Gnub> its just wierd that its taking forever to 'dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/sda1' 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> indeed... 11:41 < Zyrill> Gnub: takes ages here, too! 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> 1.1? 11:41 < Zyrill> reading the firmware took 90minutes... and i have USB2 11:41 < Gnub> always did it for me within seconds 11:41 < Gnub> now more like min 11:42 < BHSPitLappy> Zyrill: that can't be rigbt... 11:42 < BHSPitLappy> and neither can the word rigbt 11:42 < Zyrill> might be because i don't run linux natively... 11:43 < Zyrill> i use vmware 11:43 < Gnub> unless my damn cat has been chewin on my cables agian 11:43 < Zyrill> lol 11:43 < Gnub> worse them mynocks 11:43 < spazzium> your cat chews on your balls? 11:43 < Zyrill> doesn't she get conditioned by all the electric shocks? 11:44 < Gnub> aw man i dont wanna start from scratch agian 11:44 < BHSPitLappy> that's why i'd leave poorly-shielded high-voltage cables around 11:44 < Gnub> ok the dd= is done 11:44 * spazzium thinks cat from national lampoon's christmas 11:44 < BHSPitLappy> haha 11:44 < Gnub> but the ipod screen is frozen 11:45 < Zyrill> BHSPitLappy: lol you brute! 11:45 < BHSPitLappy> Chub...err, Gnub, soak it in warm water 11:45 < spazzium> soak it in brine, even better 11:46 < Zyrill> i bet... 11:46 < Zyrill> hihihi 11:46 * BHSPitLappy has deja vu 11:46 < BHSPitLappy> ugh 11:47 < BHSPitLappy> school is gonna suck monday 11:47 < BHSPitLappy> I should record one of my programming classes and show you guys :) 11:48 < Zyrill> why don't you take over? 11:48 < BHSPitLappy> hahaahaha 11:48 < BHSPitLappy> because I don't know how to program? 11:48 < Zyrill> well then 11:48 < BHSPitLappy> hence, the class 11:48 < Zyrill> i thought it was for amusement only 11:49 < BHSPitLappy> there's nothing amusing about what they teach you about computers at school 11:49 < Zyrill> true 11:49 < Zyrill> lol 11:49 < BHSPitLappy> it makes me want to write my congressman 11:50 < BHSPitLappy> you just have to imagine the kickbacks and what not going on between Microsoft and our schools 11:50 < Zyrill> look at it this way: if they actually COULD code - do you think they'd give lectures in school? they'd be working for apple... 11:50 < BHSPitLappy> we don't even have C textbooks, we're all being taught from one :( 11:50 < Gnub> fixed it 11:51 < BHSPitLappy> the warm water work? 11:51 < Zyrill> i didn't even learn c in school only pascal and delphi... lol 11:51 < Gnub> ull never believe me 11:51 < BHSPitLappy> well, in middle school I taught myself TI-BASIC :D 11:51 < Gnub> gimmie a min to finish my work and ill tell ya all about it 11:51 < Zyrill> for your calc? LD 11:52 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 11:52 < Gnub> damn audio buffer is Null bs agian 11:52 < Gnub> the avi i might be trying to play might be formatted wrong 11:52 < Gnub> any1 got a test avi? 11:53 < Gnub> cant i just disable the audio? 11:53 < Gnub> for avi playback 11:53 < Gnub> ok to my problem... i was having 11:54 < Gnub> i take my ipod apart quite often.. 11:54 < Gnub> and its gotten so easy i can pull it apart with my fingernails 11:54 < BHSPitLappy> Gnub: look for floydzillas site 11:54 < Gnub> so i just cracked it open took out the drive cable and reseated it 11:54 < Gnub> works fine now 11:56 < Gnub> wiggin out for no reason 11:57 < BHSPitLappy> because its owner tears it apart so much 11:57 < Zyrill> stands to reason 11:57 < Gnub> 4;) 11:57 < BHSPitLappy> nice hat... 11:57 < Gnub> wierd dmesg though 11:58 < Gnub> maybe a pin or two was having a weak connection 11:58 < Gnub> pisses me off i updated kernel and podzilla still avi wont play 11:59 < Gnub> BHSPitLappy, why dont u dcc me a file i can test that u kno works with IPL 11:59 < Gnub> avi 11:59 < BHSPitLappy> "Gnub: look for floydzillas site" 12:02 < Gnub> ok noneed already on my ipod 12:02 < Gnub> the demo avi works just fine 12:02 < Gnub> funny shit 2 i kno ive seen it somewhere before 12:02 < Gnub> the Anime stick guy 12:03 < Gnub> doing final fantasy stuff 12:04 < BHSPitLappy> ok 12:04 < BHSPitLappy> tis 0600 12:04 < BHSPitLappy> 0604 to be exact 12:04 < Gnub> so i take it the avi wasnt formatted in the right... format 12:04 < Gnub> what/? 12:04 < BHSPitLappy> did you convert it? 12:05 < BHSPitLappy> i was telling you what time it is :D 12:05 < Zyrill> is it possible to use http://ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer with PZ2 and Loader_2? 12:05 < Gnub> Sun Jan 22 07:09:18 EST 2006 12:05 < BHSPitLappy> Zyrill: probably not 12:05 < Gnub> heh 12:05 < Zyrill> damn... i hate doing everything by hand 12:05 < Gnub> just install it all by hand 12:05 < Gnub> its realy not that hard 12:05 < Gnub> format it correctl;y 12:05 < Zyrill> no but clicking 2 buttons is less of a hassle 12:06 < Gnub> well we here install linux as somewhat "masochists" if u want ease of use stick with the original firmware 12:06 < Zyrill> blabla... thanks, i needed that 12:07 < BHSPitLappy> I sometimes cut myself 12:07 < Zyrill> lol 12:07 < Gnub> i take it thats another windows guy 12:07 < BHSPitLappy> with a sharpened Mandriva dvd :/ 12:09 < Zyrill> Gnub: i don't use linux because it's cool or because i'm a masochist - some programs (such as gulp, a molecular dynamics program) do simply not exist in windows. that's the sole reason i'm using linux 12:09 < Gnub> thats sad 12:09 * Gnub wipes his ass with old wondows cd's 12:10 < Zyrill> whatever... each to his own. 12:10 < Gnub> sometimes i use them as clay pidgeons 12:11 < Zyrill> don't cut up your haemoroids though... can be nasty hehe 12:12 < BHSPitLappy> eew 12:13 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 12:14 < Gnub> stupid me shoulda read this http://ipodlinux.org/Video_player conversion for monochrome screens 12:14 < BHSPitLappy> hehe 12:14 < BHSPitLappy> forget about old 2bppconv? 12:15 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:17 < Gnub> well its been like a month since iv been back here 12:17 < Gnub> and i never realy cared about the video crap 12:17 < Gnub> since i got a monochrome display 12:17 < Gnub> but now im like... hell lets see what this SOB can do 12:18 < Gnub> just to see what sealab looks like on such a tiny 2 tone screen 12:18 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 12:20 < BHSPitLappy> hah 12:20 < BHSPitLappy> it's not 2 tone 12:20 < BHSPitLappy> it's 2 BIT 12:20 < BHSPitLappy> 00 01 10 11 (4 tones!) 12:21 < BHSPitLappy> :D 12:21 < Gnub> scuse me mister perfect! 12:21 < BHSPitLappy> heh. 12:22 < BHSPitLappy> about 6:30... 12:26 < Gnub> ok lets see how this looks 12:27 < Gnub> damnit same audio buffer is null bs 12:28 < Gnub> guess i better check teh forums 12:28 < BHSPitLappy> FYI, videos will only play right on a fresh session 12:29 < Gnub> i tried 12:29 < BHSPitLappy> once you play a video well, then you better reboot if you want a/v sync 12:29 < Gnub> that 12:29 < BHSPitLappy> ok 12:29 < BHSPitLappy> just fyi 12:31 < Gnub> hmm could my boot up "flite msg" text to speach thing be messin with it? 12:31 < BHSPitLappy> definitely possible 12:35 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:36 < BHSPitLappy> si-ya-ma-ha-la! 12:39 -!- Gnub [n=Gnub@EV-ESR1-72-49-116-101.fuse.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:40 < Zyrill> if i installed the Loader... should my ipod boot up to apple firmware (i've set default to apple)? 12:40 < Zyrill> i mean i don't have pz installed yet 12:41 < BHSPitLappy> huh 12:42 < Zyrill> it says loader.cfg not found... crap 12:42 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 12:42 < BHSPitLappy> it doesn't have to find it 12:42 < Zyrill> i put it in sdb3/loader.cfg 12:42 < Zyrill> so it should find it 12:42 < BHSPitLappy> it's not required... 12:42 < Zyrill> well unfortunately it just sits there doing nothing 12:42 < BHSPitLappy> I dunno 12:43 < BHSPitLappy> I no longer use loader2 12:43 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 12:43 < Zyrill> the last message is: Trying |(hd0,1)/ipodloader.conf 12:43 < Zyrill> crap 12:43 < Zyrill> now i have to wipe it, right? 12:43 < BHSPitLappy> just don't have a conf 12:43 < BHSPitLappy> wtf are you talking about 12:44 < Zyrill> i mean i have to restore it using that ipod-software 12:44 < Zyrill> apple software, as it is 12:44 < Zyrill> or can i make it go into diskmode somehow` 12:44 -!- Gnub [n=Gnub@EV-ESR1-72-49-116-101.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:44 < BHSPitLappy> why? 12:45 < BHSPitLappy> what generation 12:45 < Zyrill> photo 12:45 < BHSPitLappy> reboot, and as soon as it flashes hold action+play 12:45 < BHSPitLappy> ...n00b :D 12:45 < Zyrill> i tried that :( 12:45 < BHSPitLappy> you're not doing it right then. 12:45 < BHSPitLappy> flip the hold switch on and off 12:46 < Zyrill> fuck 12:46 < Zyrill> lol 12:46 < Zyrill> i didn't press hard enough obviously 12:46 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 12:46 < Zyrill> now... back to muggin the bootloader 12:48 < Gnub> yup you where right BHSPitLappy that caused it 12:48 < Gnub> it sorta works now.. 12:48 < BHSPitLappy> yuh huh 12:48 < Gnub> i just need a "correct" avi to convert 12:48 < BHSPitLappy> mplayer will take anything! :D 12:49 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:49 < BHSPitLappy> good old tbs 12:49 < BHSPitLappy> giving me tv other than infomercials all night 12:49 < BHSPitLappy> well, crappy movies 12:49 < BHSPitLappy> but still 12:55 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:56 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["leaving"] 12:56 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:59 < Gnub> wierd i cant get any avi i have to play 13:03 < BHSPitLappy> try a sample from floydzilla's site? 13:04 < Gnub> well none of the avi's i convert work 13:04 < BHSPitLappy> but the sample? 13:04 < Gnub> bout how long does it take to convert say 100mb avi? 13:05 < Gnub> sample plays 13:05 < BHSPitLappy> the size isn't a relevant term 13:07 < Gnub> imade the converter via CVS 13:07 < Gnub> are there any "special cmds" 13:07 < BHSPitLappy> not that i know of. 13:07 < Gnub> sh-3.00# 2bppconv 13:07 < Gnub> Error: can't open one or more of the files. 13:08 < Gnub> i do 2bppconv file.avi converted.avi 13:08 < BHSPitLappy> 2bppconv --help? 13:08 < Gnub> and when played on ipod just static "snow" 13:08 < Gnub> that doesnt work iether 13:09 < Gnub> wich is wierd the 1st linux prog that doesnt have a --help 13:09 < BHSPitLappy> well 13:09 < BHSPitLappy> I never could get it to work in 2 bit either 13:10 < Gnub> pluss the prog "sorta" craps out after about 10 sec of encoding... 13:10 < Gnub> when the video is like 30min 13:10 < Gnub> id figure it take alittle bit longer to encode sutch a thing 13:11 < Zyrill> crap... 13:11 < Zyrill> anybody know the standard layout of a suse-mbr? i accidentaly overwrote it with my ipod-backup... lol damn! 13:12 * BHSPitLappy is out like aegray at a popularity contest 13:13 < Gnub> oh shit... 13:13 < Gnub> well what bootloader does suse use? 13:14 < Zyrill> grub 13:14 < Gnub> lilo or grub 13:14 < Gnub> ok 13:14 < Gnub> the grub config still exist right? 13:14 < Zyrill> i didn't mess with it 13:14 < Gnub> usually in /boot/grub/grub.conf 13:14 < Zyrill> thx i'll have a look 13:14 < Gnub> if thats still alive u should beable to use grub to "update" the MBR 13:15 < Gnub> though i dont use grub i use lilo 13:15 < Gnub> so a grub user u need to find 13:15 < Gnub> just DONT REBOOT! 13:15 < Zyrill> i just dded the mbr-image to the disk so nothing should have happened there 13:15 < Zyrill> i wont :) thanks for helping 13:16 < Zyrill> where else could the grub.conf be? 13:16 < Gnub> hell while ur at it just rm -rf /! 13:16 < Gnub> WARNING DONT DO THAT! 13:16 < Zyrill> i might as well have done that yeah 13:16 < Gnub> grub iether in /etc somewhere or /boot 13:16 < Zyrill> i'm not completely stupid... i just made the mistake of just yanking the "dd"-line from the wiki forgetting that my disk is scsi as well 13:17 < Zyrill> how would i invote a grup-update? 13:18 -!- kattmat [n=kattmat@81-233-221-180-no25.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:18 < Gnub> man grub or google grub 13:18 < kattmat> God day. 13:18 < Gnub> or ask some1 who kno's or ask in #suse 13:19 < kattmat> When you want to reset the ipod back to it's "normal" state, non-linux, apple-stuff that is. do you do that by just reformatting the ipod? 13:19 < kattmat> using the update tool. 13:19 < Gnub> u can 13:19 < kattmat> okay. 13:19 < Gnub> or just dd the ole "backup'd " bnootloader u shoulda have made 13:20 < kattmat> i have no music on it what so ever anyways, so it's not a biggie. 13:20 -!- Dudemullet [n=elpaip@201.137.188.125] has joined #ipodlinux 13:20 < Gnub> loader_backup_.bin or something via the wiki's instructions 13:20 < kattmat> i'm thinking about maybe joining the project though. i'm not all that read up on it yet. i own a 4g U2-ipod and i'm an x86 assembler as well as a C programmer. 13:21 < Gnub> welcome aboard 13:21 < kattmat> i will see what i can do with the stuff that exists. 13:23 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 13:24 < Kingstone> i'm having my first practical driving test tomorrow o_O 13:24 < Dudemullet> hi dudes 13:24 < Dudemullet> Ive just begun reading up on this project 13:24 < Dudemullet> hearing my first song on podzilla right now 13:25 < Dudemullet> Ive got a 3rd gen ipod that I repaired outta 2 screwed up ipods 13:26 < Kingstone> what did you replace? 13:26 < Dudemullet> HDD, and the connector 13:26 < Kingstone> nice 13:26 < Dudemullet> best thing it was freee 13:26 < Dudemullet> the guys where buddies of mine 13:26 < Kingstone> you needed to do hard wiring? 13:26 < Dudemullet> only for the connector 13:27 < Dudemullet> the HDD is practically plug and play 13:27 < Kingstone> cool 13:27 < Dudemullet> it was a pain getting it open though 13:27 < Dudemullet> trying not to damage the exterior 13:28 < Gnub> what? i need mplayer? 13:28 < Dudemullet> huh ? you need it for what ? 13:28 < Gnub> mencoder 13:28 < Gnub> nmothin 13:30 < Gnub> i need sleep 13:31 < Gnub> been up allnight 13:31 < Dudemullet> 7:30 Am here 13:31 < Dudemullet> havent slept either 13:31 < Dudemullet> trying to find a "queing" app for my ipod led me to 5 hours of search 13:32 < Dudemullet> and finally installing linux on the pod 13:35 < Dudemullet> in the file browser, do you know how to get to thefolder "linux" ? wich appears in explorer ? 13:38 < coob> queuing app? 13:38 < coob> use on the go playlists 13:38 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:39 < coob> hold the button when you find a song 13:39 < coob> and it'll add it to the playlist. 13:39 < Gnub> mornin coob 13:39 < Gnub> have i matured sice last year yet? 13:40 < Dudemullet> indeed, on the go could have been a way of solving that issue 13:40 < Dudemullet> but theres a difference between still having the whole library being playable from just songs youve selected 13:42 < coob> what? i don't understand you. 13:43 < Dudemullet> If I queue a song it will be played after the one playing at the moment 13:44 < Dudemullet> and after playing the one that was queued it will play a random or the next song in the list 13:44 < Dudemullet> exactly like in winamp 13:44 < Gnub> heh 13:44 < Gnub> night all 13:44 < Dudemullet> night 13:45 < Gnub> ROFL Dudemullet, i didnt catch that till now... nice name 13:45 < Dudemullet> thanks dude 13:45 -!- Gnub [n=Gnub@EV-ESR1-72-49-116-101.fuse.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 13:50 < Dudemullet> well im going to bed too good night 13:51 -!- Dudemullet [n=elpaip@201.137.188.125] has quit [] 13:53 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:05 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:21 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 < Zyrill> which kernel do i chose for use with Loader_2 and PZ2 14:28 < Zyrill> ? 14:36 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:36 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 14:44 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:44 < Zyrill> crap... why does loader2 do nothing but show iPL Loader 2.0 on a pretty gradient background? 14:46 < forceflow1049> i don't think its working 14:46 < forceflow1049> well at least 14:46 < Zyrill> yes? 14:47 < forceflow1049> do you have pz2 installed? 14:48 < Zyrill> not yet 14:48 < forceflow1049> kk, i'm trying right now 14:48 < Zyrill> i want to install the new bootloader and then if that works install PZ2 14:48 < forceflow1049> i don't know much about the new bootloader 14:49 < Zyrill> well i found out that the config file HAS to be located on the FAT32 partition 14:49 < forceflow1049> what OS? 14:50 < Zyrill> what do you mean? i'm using linux and windows... 14:50 < Zyrill> but for fucking my ipod i use suse... 14:50 < forceflow1049> calm down dude 14:51 < Zyrill> no worries - i'm not agitated... 14:51 < forceflow1049> its cool 14:52 < forceflow1049> i've been having trouble getting pz2 up and going 14:52 < Zyrill> i wonder what the loader2 is for... i tried with and without the config-file and nothing seems to work 14:52 < Zyrill> i haven't even tried PZ2 yet... 14:53 < forceflow1049> i get pz2 up and running, but when i restart it dies 14:53 < Zyrill> seems like everything is still a bit unstable 14:54 < forceflow1049> yeah... 14:54 < forceflow1049> you can now install pz2 using nightlies tho 14:54 < forceflow1049> which seems a bit better 14:54 < Zyrill> is there a good guie? 14:54 < Zyrill> guide i mean 14:54 < forceflow1049> for installing? 14:55 < Zyrill> yes 14:55 < forceflow1049> there's still no gui... on windows i use a make file 15:19 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@p5499500E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:20 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@p54995506.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:26 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:27 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 15:33 -!- bas [n=bas@84.86.61.144] has joined #ipodlinux 15:37 < bas> hello. I've been playing around whit ipodloader 2 on my 4G(b&w screen) 15:37 < bas> Got some problems, so have been poking around whit the code 15:37 < bas> Am now up to the point where the console works right(was messed up before) 15:37 < bas> and it does not lock up anymore on the config/image find stuf 15:37 < bas> but keys don't seem to work, and I was wondering if anyone new more bout that... 15:38 < forceflow1049> not I 15:39 < erus`> 5g5g5g 15:40 < forceflow1049> bas: do you have pz2? 15:40 < bas> not yet.. first want this loader to work.. 15:41 < forceflow1049> i think its pretty buggy 15:41 < bas> Well, it's pretty new too.. they're working on it, i guess.. 15:49 < forceflow1049> yep 15:56 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:02 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-731d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:10 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 16:14 < Zyrill> bas: i stopped trying earlier today... couldn't get loader2 to work as well... 16:14 < Zyrill> i made it up to the point where it says "iPL Loader 2.00" on top of that pretty blue gradient background 16:16 < forceflow1049> does bootloader 2 have a wiki page? 16:16 < forceflow1049> can't find it 16:16 < Zyrill> yes 16:16 < Zyrill> it's called Loader_2 16:16 < forceflow1049> oh 16:16 < forceflow1049> thx 16:16 < Zyrill> np 16:19 < bas> Right now i can get it to draw the menu, but keys don't have keys working yet 16:19 < Zyrill> i see - what did you change to get the menu to render? 16:19 < bas> err.. keys don't work yet, that is.... 16:19 < bas> Fixed a bug in the filesystem thingy. 16:19 < bas> it locked up before 16:19 < Zyrill> did you commit it back to svn? 16:20 < bas> nope.. was hoping i could talk to some of the real devs about it, maybe they can do it 16:20 < Zyrill> check #ipodlinux-dev 16:20 < Zyrill> they're hiding in there 16:20 < bas> ah.. :-) 16:24 < forceflow1049> do you have to register to go in there? 16:34 -!- DDustin [n=ddustin@71.141.132.138] has joined #ipodlinux 16:55 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:56 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:27 -!- disident [n=disident@AStrasbourg-156-1-48-202.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Client Quit] 17:37 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 17:41 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:48 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:53 -!- disident [n=disident@AStrasbourg-156-1-48-202.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:03 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 18:10 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:13 < kattmat> i can't access the uclinux ipod patch cvs 18:14 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@20150055242.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@20150055242.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:19 < coob> yeah, the uclinux website sucks/ 18:21 < kattmat> anyway. compiling the source now and hoping for the best. 18:24 < kattmat> make: *** [init/main.o] Error 126 18:24 < kattmat> for fucks sake come ON 18:24 < kattmat> /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-gcc: /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-gcc: cannot execute binary file 18:25 < kattmat> i can't run the app. 18:25 < kattmat> PowerMacG3series:~ anton$ /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-gcc 18:25 < kattmat> -bash: /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-gcc: cannot execute binary file 18:25 < kattmat> how come? 18:26 < coob> did you install the elf linux bins? 18:27 < kattmat> hm. stupid me thought it was for osx (since everything else is defaulting to osx) 18:27 < kattmat> found the correct ones now.. :) 18:47 -!- stlehmann [n=chatzill@p548BC5F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:47 < kattmat> cc1: error: invalid option `short-load-bytes' 18:47 < kattmat> make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 18:47 < kattmat> /bin/sh: line 1: /sbin/genksyms: No such file or directory i'm getting a shitload of these 18:47 < stlehmann> hallo 18:47 < kattmat> hi. 18:48 < linuxstb> kattmat: Are you trying to compile the kernel? If so, which version of gcc are you using? 18:49 < kattmat> arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 18:49 < linuxstb> I believe you need 2.95 for the kernel. 18:49 < coob> you need 2.95 for the kernel 18:49 < stlehmann> was i losing my warranty if i use ipodlinux on my ipod 18:49 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACCAAF50.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 18:49 < kattmat> i only found 3.4.3 for osx if you didn't want to compile it all for yourself. 18:49 < coob> stlehmann: ask apple. 18:49 < linuxstb> coob: Do you have a 4G Color with the new type of LCD? 18:50 < coob> if you have to ask, ipl isn't for you... 18:50 < coob> linuxstb: yes 18:50 < stlehmann> coob lol 18:50 < linuxstb> coob: Have you tried ipodloader2 ? 18:50 < coob> i'm hfs, no dirty FAT partition is touching my hd 18:50 < coob> (nope) 18:50 < kattmat> ah found 2.95.3 gcc great 18:51 < coob> why? is there a problem with the lcd driver in it? 18:51 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:51 < linuxstb> I helped Josh fix one bug the other night, so the LCD is working fine now. But the backlight doesn't work. 18:51 < stlehmann> i dont want to ask apple 18:51 < kattmat> why not? 18:52 < kattmat> they surely have the answer 18:52 < coob> linuxstb: perhaps there's some initialisation stuff in the kernel thats not in the loader 18:52 < stlehmann> really? 18:52 < stlehmann> i dont think so 18:52 < coob> may be turning on certain clocks 18:52 < coob> warranty's usually cover normal use. 18:52 < coob> i wouldn't count ipl as normal use 18:53 < coob> but hey, they *might* take it back. if you're that worried, don't use it. 18:53 < coob> linuxstb: maybe the pwm stuff needs turning on? unsure... 18:53 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACCAAF50.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:54 < linuxstb> In the Rockbox bootloader, the two lines that enable the backlight are the first two lines of code executed - so it doesn't seem to need any special initialisation (at least on the 4Gs and Nano/Video). 18:55 < coob> does it work on those new lcd colours though? 18:56 < stlehmann> also merken die das nicht ob da linux drauf war oder nicht 18:56 < davidc__> huh - want to know something funny - playboy hosts eclipse mirrors :P 18:56 < linuxstb> coob: Yes - that backlight code works fine on my ipod. 18:57 < davidc__> seems sorta a strange collaboration 18:57 < linuxstb> It works in podzilla/podzilla2 as well. 18:57 < coob> eclipse as in the ide? 18:58 < coob> linuxstb: i don't know then... 18:58 < stlehmann> oopps its better in englisch right? 18:58 < davidc__> coob: yea 18:58 < linuxstb> coob: I was just wondering if others have experienced the same. The same backlight code is used for all 4G ipods IIRC. 18:58 < davidc__> stlehmann: yea - we don't speak german 18:59 < stlehmann> okay 18:59 < kattmat> haha. why does my kernel-compilation try to run it through gcc/darwin/ppc/as ? 18:59 < davidc__> kattmat: because you didn't copy the config? 18:59 < coob> because you're not doing it right. 18:59 < kattmat> i did. 18:59 < kattmat> trying again from the top though. 19:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:05 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:05 < kattmat> /bin/sh: line 1: /sbin/genksyms: No such file or directory what's this? 19:06 < kattmat> about a million of these 19:06 < bas> linuxstb: i was poking around whit ipodloader2 today on my 4g b&w. backlight didn't work either, but after some changes to the code it now does work 19:06 < bas> pretty new to ipod coding though, so i might have butched something else along the way... 19:07 < linuxstb> What did you have to change? 19:09 < bas> i noticed that the backlight is turned on in ipod_init_hardware(), but the actual I/O pins are set in fb_init, which is called later.. 19:09 < bas> also added some code from the kernel which seemed to miss in fb_init 19:10 < bas> so backlight was turned on, but pins where not enabled yet. Or thats what i think.... 19:10 < kattmat> what the.. i did thinks EXACTLY as it is said in http://ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building but still it tries to use ppc-as, and it says it can't find /sbin/genksyms. how to solve this? 19:11 -!- stlehmann [n=chatzill@p548BC5F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 19:12 < linuxstb> bas: I'm sure the IPL people would appreciate a patch. 19:13 < bas> i got some more changes here.. just trying to get it going on my 4g b&w... 19:13 < bas> you know where to submit patchess? 19:14 < linuxstb> There also seem to be some bugs in the find_somewhere() function in config.c - I had to comment out the call to that to get it to work for me. 19:14 < hyarion> bas: http://ipodlinux.org/Patches 19:15 < bas> ah... should have searched the wiki ;-) 19:16 < linuxstb> I think it also runs out of filehandles - MAX_FILES is set to 10, but there are 16 different places it could look for config files and kernels. Each time a file is checked, another filehandle is used (there is no vfs_close). 19:17 < bas> linuxstb: I do have trouble whit filereading here.. vfs_open seems to work, but vfs_read always returns zero... 19:18 < bas> could that be caused by the filehandlers? 19:19 < linuxstb> vfs_open should fail if it runs out of filehandles. But I haven't looked closely at that part of the code. 19:20 < bas> that's what i thought.... 19:20 < linuxstb> The wiki page describes the filesystem code as buggy - so I suppose that means the bug could be anywhere. 19:21 < hyarion> linuxstb: where on the wiki? 19:21 < linuxstb> Loader_2 19:22 < bas> ghe.. did see that indeed 19:23 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 -!- [eX]Deth [i=extreme@host-88-160-220-24.midco.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:30 -!- [eX]Deth [i=extreme@host-88-160-220-24.midco.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:33 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:40 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:41 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 19:41 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 < kattmat> how do you update podzilla? 19:46 < hyarion> kattmat: http://ipodlinux.org/Updating_Podzilla 19:46 < kattmat> found it. :) 19:46 < kattmat> cheers though 19:47 < kattmat> only bad thing is not being able to play music while doing other stuff. 19:47 < hyarion> you can with MPD 19:48 < kattmat> MPD? 19:48 < hyarion> Music Player Deamon 19:48 < hyarion> http://ipodlinux.org/MPD 19:48 < kattmat> nice. i'll put that in. 19:49 < BetaBoy> what is mpd ? 19:50 < hyarion> BetaBoy: it's a Music Player Daemon ;) 19:53 < forceflow1049> doesn;t work in pz2 tho (not for me) 19:55 < kattmat> eeh. 19:55 < kattmat> still aborting play when i press the menu-button. 19:55 < kattmat> mpd didn't do any difference. 19:56 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:57 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:58 < hyarion> kattmat: you must have done something wrong 19:59 < kattmat> probably something wrong in the rc file 19:59 < hyarion> did you update podzilla? 20:02 -!- Benji_ [i=Dksar@dsl-hkigw7-fe15f900-1.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:03 < kattmat> yes. but i think it was the rc. i'm just gonna burn a disc, then try. 20:13 < kattmat> hm. okay seems to work now. adding all the tracks... 20:13 * dell500 dell500 20:15 -!- Kuehlwagen [n=cromox@p50872CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:19 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 20:22 -!- domr [n=dom@81-86-156-68.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 < kattmat> hmm mpd wasn't all that great. 20:32 < kattmat> since it crashes if i go into artists/albums/songs menu. 20:32 < coob> its alpha, what the fuck do you expect? 20:32 < coob> are you using pz0 or pz2 20:32 < kattmat> that it at least wouldn't crash all THAT soon. :) 20:33 < kattmat> i'm using the one that you could download at http://ipodlinux.org/MPD 20:33 < coob> did it update the db when the ipod started? 20:33 < kattmat> yes 20:35 < kattmat> hm. crashed as soon as i pressed the songs menu. the other ones at least shows the menu-name in the top bar. 20:36 < forceflow1049> coob: does MPD work in pz2 for you? 20:37 < kattmat> hm. mpd goes to the trash. too bad. it would have been nice. 20:37 < coob> forceflow1049: pz2 probably needs aocmpiling with -O2 as would ttk 20:37 < coob> kattmat: sounds like you haven't set it up right. 20:38 < kattmat> no offence to you, though, coob, i'm sure you guys have done a great work. might be that i'm using a 4G 20:39 < coob> no, it's that you don't have a clue what you're doing. 20:39 < kattmat> coob: http://estet.se/~anton/ 20:41 -!- disident [n=disident@AStrasbourg-156-1-48-202.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 20:42 < kattmat> would it help to change the charset to UTF-8? 20:43 -!- alphakiller [n=bohas@200.162.22.132] has joined #iPodLinux 20:49 -!- Kuehlwagen [n=cromox@p50872CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 20:51 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ipodlinux ["BHSPitMonkey :No such nick/channel"] 20:58 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 21:05 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:06 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:06 -!- linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb 21:06 -!- domr [n=dom@81-86-156-68.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:15 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:20 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:36 -!- bas [n=bas@84.86.61.144] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:40 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@p54995506.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:57 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:58 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:59 -!- young_cereal [n=michael@p54B228FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 < BHSPitLappy> ahem 22:02 < young_cereal> Hallo 22:04 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:05 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-144-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:11 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:23 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:40 -!- disident [n=disident@AStrasbourg-156-1-48-202.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:42 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:52 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:02 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-144-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:04 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has quit [] 23:05 -!- conan [i=wampus@82.12.29.253] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 < conan> Hi I'm using a 3G ipod with windows, 23:06 < conan> when im playing back the text is screwed up on the screen 23:06 < conan> is this normal? 23:06 < conan> or is there something wrong 23:06 < conan> oh btw i have linux available as well but its internet is messed up 23:10 < conan> is anyone there? 23:12 < davidc__> hmm? 23:12 < davidc__> "text is screwed up" 23:12 < davidc__> be more descriptive 23:12 < conan> it displays characters that arent real letters 23:12 < davidc__> where? 23:12 < conan> for the details about the song 23:12 < davidc__> i ipodlinux I assume? 23:12 < davidc__> are you sure the song doesn't have bad ID3 tags? 23:12 < conan> it works on my PC 23:13 < conan> in xmms 23:13 < conan> possibly codepages? 23:13 < conan> charsets even 23:13 < davidc__> eh- its just english letters right? 23:13 < conan> yeah 23:13 < davidc__> because we've got crap non-englsh support 23:13 < davidc__> huh... 23:13 < davidc__> thats odd 23:13 < conan> they show fine in the menus 23:13 < davidc__> maybe borked iTunesDB? 23:14 < conan> i copied it all accross with gtkpod 23:14 < BleuLlama> sounds like itunesdb is messed up 23:14 < conan> i will see 23:14 < davidc__> eh - do they look right if you just play the song from the file browser? 23:15 < conan> oh i remember now 23:15 < conan> the first song displays fine 23:15 < conan> and then after that they screw up 23:15 < davidc__> huh - even more odd 23:15 < davidc__> are you using the latest pz nightly? 23:15 < conan> yeah 23:15 < davidc__> and you're using pz0 right? not pz2? 23:15 < conan> yeah 23:16 < davidc__> thats really strange 23:16 < conan> ill have to figure it out tomorrow 23:16 < davidc__> I haven't seen that before 23:16 < conan> its like 11 and i have college in the morning 23:16 < davidc__> k 23:16 < davidc__> 'later 23:16 < conan> see ya 23:16 -!- conan [i=wampus@82.12.29.253] has quit [] 23:21 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-218-130.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:40 < BHSPitLappy> hola 23:41 < hyarion> g'day 23:42 < BHSPitLappy> aye, mate 23:42 < BHSPitLappy> anything amazing going on? 23:43 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 < forceflow1049> does the battery meter work in pz2? 23:45 < imphasing> Hah...the ipods battery meter is a joke anyway. 23:45 < BleuLlama> does it ever! 23:45 < BleuLlama> a joke? 23:46 < imphasing> Yeah. 23:46 < BleuLlama> howso? 23:46 < imphasing> I've never seen it very accurate. 23:46 < imphasing> As in, ever. 23:46 < imphasing> It usually shows me half a charge, with a full charge. 23:46 < imphasing> Then goes up. 23:46 < imphasing> Then back down.. 23:46 < imphasing> then up again. 23:46 < forceflow1049> mine (2g) never seems to move 23:46 < imphasing> the nothing. 23:47 < BleuLlama> it depends on usage. unlike apple's algorithms, ours shows exactly what the battery hardware reports 23:47 < BleuLlama> if you can do better than what we've provided, please, feel free to contribute better code to us. 23:47 < imphasing> I thought it was an actual hardware error, because the iPL one seemed to have the same fault.. 23:47 < BleuLlama> it's not a fault 23:47 < imphasing> "inaccuracy"? 23:48 < BleuLlama> "difference to apple's algorithm" 23:48 < imphasing> I was actually talking about both firmwares. 23:48 < coob> i think apple's uses the same as ours 23:48 < coob> unsure though 23:48 < imphasing> Because I noticed it in both, and I figured it was a hardware thing. 23:48 < imphasing> Which is why I said it was a joke. 23:48 < coob> because after a reset it's shit low, then bounces up 23:48 < imphasing> Not to demean the coder that wrote it. 23:49 < imphasing> coob: Yeah, that's whatI noticed.. 23:49 < BleuLlama> coob: that's what my apple firmware shows 23:49 < BleuLlama> reboot, it starts superlow, then builds back up to about 50-75% 23:49 < forceflow1049> i get the low battery symbol alot 23:49 < BleuLlama> which is the actual value 23:49 < BleuLlama> (4g appleos) 23:49 < imphasing> Hmm.. 23:50 < BHSPitLappy> forceflow1049: it's just kidding around 23:50 < BHSPitLappy> playful little things 23:50 < forceflow1049> yeah... i notived 23:51 < imphasing> Notive: Noun. A noticeable motive. 23:51 < imphasing> :( 23:52 < forceflow1049> hehe 23:52 < forceflow1049> noticed 23:53 < forceflow1049> i didn;t realize you were an english major 23:53 < BHSPitLappy> for great justice! 23:53 < BHSPitLappy> oh wait, that's engrish 23:54 < imphasing> I didn't reveal my major.. 23:54 < imphasing> Creepy. 23:57 < forceflow1049> anybody here run dsl (linux, not internet)? 23:57 < forceflow1049> i want to put it on an ancient laptop 23:57 < forceflow1049> is it any good? 23:58 < BHSPitLappy> figure out for yourself, this is an ipod channel. 23:58 < BHSPitLappy> iPL != DSL 23:58 < BHSPitLappy> iPod != Laptop 23:58 < forceflow1049> my fault 23:58 < BleuLlama> most of us don't even run linux on our machines 23:59 < forceflow1049> i run windows on me machine 23:59 < BHSPitLappy> i run linux on mah machine 23:59 < imphasing> "anybody here run dsl (linux, not internet)?" #What the hell. And here I thought linux WAS the internet. --- Log closed Mon Jan 23 00:00:00 2006