--- Log opened Sat Jan 21 00:00:01 2006 00:00 < BHSPitLappy2> heh, didn't know vlc would open 'em 00:00 < BHSPitLappy2> then again, haven't tried... /me has a nano 00:00 < SlashX> hmm 00:00 < SlashX> i tryed to put it on 00:00 < SlashX> and it said 00:01 < SlashX> the video can not be put on ipod becasue ipod cannot play this video 00:02 < BHSPitLappy2> what did you use to convert? 00:02 < NanoZ> vlc opens almost everything 00:02 -!- gordon [n=gordon@c220-237-110-76.blktn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:02 < NanoZ> i converted a 2minute nano file into 87MB with good quality and video/audio 00:03 < NanoZ> best workable convert so far 00:03 < gordon> hey guys, im in the process of setting up my ipod video, I cant decide between banshee and gtkpod...anyone have experience with both...thanks. 00:03 < SlashX> i use river something to convert it to mp4 00:03 < SlashX> river past 00:03 < NanoZ> yes 00:03 < SlashX> or path 00:03 < SlashX> or w/e 00:03 < NanoZ> i used that to make it smaller 00:03 < NanoZ> river past video cleaner 00:03 < SlashX> yeeah 00:03 < BHSPitLappy2> gordon: out of curiosity, do you know what this channel is? :P 00:04 < SlashX> ive had expiernce with gtkpod 00:04 < SlashX> not banshee 00:04 < SlashX> nano2 00:04 < josh_> linuxstb: ping 00:04 < SlashX> i converted from wmv to mp4 and i cant put it on my ipod 00:04 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ipodloader2/ (Makefile config.c console.c ext2.c): Misc bug (hopefully)fixes. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/725) 00:04 < gordon> BHSPitLappy2: ohh wait, I just realised.....sorry im still in the process of wakening up....thanks....*slaps head* 00:05 < BHSPitLappy2> hehe 00:05 * SlashX slaps gordon 00:05 < SlashX> :D 00:05 < NanoZ> why can you put it on ipod/? 00:05 < SlashX> wke up! 00:05 < BHSPitLappy2> josh_: should I try it on my nano? :D 00:05 < SlashX> nano2 i get an error 00:05 < gordon> thats better..... 00:05 < josh_> BHSPitLappy2: sure 00:05 < josh_> compile it with 00:05 < josh_> make clean all CFLAGS=-DMSGDELAY=1000000 00:05 < BHSPitLappy2> it needs options now? oye :( 00:05 < BHSPitLappy2> heh 00:05 < josh_> that'll put in a 1 second delay after each message 00:05 < josh_> you don't need it 00:05 < josh_> it's a debugging thing 00:05 < gordon> SlashX how did you find it...everythign worked ok? Its got a lot less deps than banshee 00:05 < BHSPitLappy2> yeah 00:06 < josh_> the 1000000 is in microseconds 00:06 < BHSPitLappy2> keeps commands from trampling each other? 00:06 < BHSPitLappy2> like the mpd sleep thing 00:06 < josh_> just lets you see things :-) 00:06 < BHSPitLappy2> ahh... 00:06 < josh_> so it doesn't fly by so fast you can't tell 00:06 < SlashX> gordon, it was good 00:06 < SlashX> i used it when i had linux 00:06 < SlashX> i have windows atm though 00:07 < gordon> cool, thanks 00:09 -!- gordon [n=gordon@c220-237-110-76.blktn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 00:10 < NanoZ> how come ipl doesn't support .gif images 00:11 < BHSPitMonkey> because NanoZ hasn't gotten around to coding it yet 00:11 < NanoZ> i wish 00:12 < NanoZ> i converted a nano sized gif animation from a video file, the result was 2 minutes of video at 25MB or so 00:12 < NanoZ> maybe 17 00:12 < NanoZ> cant rmember 00:13 < NanoZ> you can run sound and pictures in the apple firmware at the same time 00:13 < BHSPitMonkey> or, you know, just separate the frames and use the scrollwheel in retailos... 00:13 < NanoZ> no 00:14 < NanoZ> you extract audio from the file to a .mp3 file, then you convert just the video to .gif 00:14 < josh_> NanoZ: if the iPod isn't powerful enough to play compressed video, and if GIFs are compressed, can't you deduce the logical conclusion there? 00:14 < NanoZ> what isnt a compressed image format then? 00:14 < NanoZ> bmp 00:14 < NanoZ> lol 00:14 < josh_> yes, bmp. 00:14 < NanoZ> :) 00:14 < josh_> also, pcx, tga, xpm, ppm, and a few others too 00:14 < NanoZ> pcx...hmm 00:15 < BHSPitMonkey> is a color palette really a means of "Compression"? 00:15 < josh_> if it's uncompressed, it's not going to be any smaller than regular video 00:15 < BHSPitMonkey> as in, does the client have to do MORE work to dispaly it? 00:15 < josh_> BHSPitLappy2: not really, but GIFs are also LZW compressed 00:15 < BHSPitMonkey> always? 00:15 < josh_> you can make uncompressed ones, but that's kind of pointless... 00:16 < BHSPitMonkey> you can also make uncompressed videos, too, but THAT's kind of pointless... ;) 00:16 < josh_> haha 00:16 < NanoZ> yeah, but the question is how much more cpu power it takes to uncompress a gif than a raw avi 00:16 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host152-20.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 00:17 < NanoZ> or atleast than the nano can handle 00:17 < BHSPitMonkey> iPL frankly should just require its own standards in media completely. 00:18 < BHSPitMonkey> err 00:19 < BHSPitMonkey> i wonder por que my new build of loader2 wasn't any different? 00:19 < NanoZ> id like to know how to put a boot screen image on my nano 00:19 < BHSPitMonkey> wiki. 00:19 < BHSPitMonkey> err 00:19 < ves> BHSPitMonkey: you ever get that shot of the two nanos side by side official vs ipl? 00:19 < BHSPitMonkey> actually no 00:20 < NanoZ> thats for the non color 00:20 < BHSPitMonkey> NanoZ: yeah 00:20 < josh_> BHSPitLappy2: you made a new loader2 build? did it do anything different? 00:20 < BHSPitMonkey> so the answer is no 00:20 < NanoZ> i wouldn't klnow if it would work with a nano 00:20 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: "i wonder por que my new build of loader2 wasn't any different?" 00:21 < josh_> ah. 00:21 < BHSPitLappy2> ves: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3360/pzcomparison0qn.jpg 00:21 -!- lBoxy [i=littleBo@213.195.203.138] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:21 < josh_> did you compile CFLAGS=-DMSGDELAY=1000000 ? 00:21 < BHSPitLappy2> yes 00:21 < ves> awesome :) 00:21 < josh_> BHSPitLappy2: did you clean before compiling? 00:21 < BHSPitLappy2> josh_: i pasted what you gave. 00:22 < BHSPitLappy2> make clean all CFLA... 00:22 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:22 < josh_> ok, hrm. 00:22 < josh_> when it booted did you see lines like ">> Trying (hd0,1)/loader.cfg..."? 00:22 < josh_> those were just added 00:23 < BHSPitLappy2> no, like before it stalled after the very first line 00:23 < BHSPitLappy2> iPL Loader 2.0 or something 00:23 < josh_> that's not the very first line 00:24 < BHSPitLappy2> oh 00:24 < josh_> it prints a bunch of stuff to a "console" before it does that 00:24 < josh_> that's the first line of the menu 00:24 < josh_> is the background solid or gradiented? 00:24 < BHSPitLappy2> well it goes from apple to the "console" displaying that message instantly 00:24 -!- ankit_ [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 00:24 < BHSPitLappy2> solid... 00:24 < BHSPitLappy2> I'm familiar with the difference 00:24 < josh_> I know :-) 00:24 < josh_> hrm, this is weird. 00:25 < josh_> is the message exactly "iPL Loader 2.0"? 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> i believe so 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> nope 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> iPL Bootloader 2.0 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> :) 00:25 < josh_> ah, that changes everything :-) 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> i guess "the top of my head" has a character limit :) 00:25 < josh_> iPL Loader is in menu.c 00:25 < josh_> iPL Bootloader is in loader.c 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> i kno 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> *know 00:25 < BHSPitLappy2> josh_: not in mine, heh heh 00:26 < josh_> hrm? 00:26 < BHSPitLappy2> I "modded" my menu.c a long time ago, sneaky me 00:26 < BHSPitLappy2> (not in this source tree though) 00:26 < josh_> ah 00:26 < BHSPitLappy2> (so don't think I've compromised this build) 00:26 < BHSPitLappy2> ( :) ) 00:27 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:27 < Forceflow1049> I need help downloading the pz0 source... 00:27 < Forceflow1049> im using windows w/ cygwin 00:28 < BHSPitLappy2> why pz0 source? 00:29 < BHSPitLappy2> live in the now! 00:29 < josh_> 16:27 < Forceflow> im using windows w/ cygwin 00:29 < josh_> ^ that's why 00:29 < Forceflow1049> BHSPitLappy2: helping Ichealmay8 w/ podpool 00:29 < BHSPitLappy2> 18:27 "pz0 source..." 00:29 < BHSPitLappy2> i thought that was why? 00:29 < BHSPitLappy2> heh 00:30 < Forceflow1049> hopefully 00:30 < BHSPitLappy2> podpool??? 00:30 * BleuLlama back 00:30 < Forceflow1049> i tried to follow the instructions from the wiki... but it didn't work 00:30 < BHSPitLappy2> what is podpool? 00:30 < BleuLlama> NanoZ: where did you upload those files to? 00:30 -!- ApAthY [n=blah@CPE0004e2a67c13-CM00137189e2f2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 00:31 < Forceflow1049> pool game for pz0 00:31 < Forceflow1049> i can't seem to build podzilla tho 00:31 < BHSPitLappy2> nobody's going to play any new pz0 games... 00:31 < NanoZ> why bleu? 00:31 < NanoZ> which ones? 00:32 < Forceflow1049> it's not my game 00:32 < Forceflow1049> i'm just hoping to help 00:32 < Forceflow1049> could you help me for a bit... 00:33 < BHSPitLappy2> I'm not sure if anyone would be willing to help with it...it's a dead effort, in my opinion 00:33 < BleuLlama> NanoZ: the nano-prepared uncompressed avis. you mentioned you were uploading them somewhere earlier... 00:33 < BleuLlama> 17:41 <@BleuLlama> NanoZ: upload the file, and a description of the procedure 00:33 < BleuLlama> you used to generate it. 00:33 < BleuLlama> 17:41 < NanoZ> i am working on it 00:34 < BHSPitLappy2> sure it'd be a good game, but developers need to be making pz2 modules if they plan on releasing the app... 00:34 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACCAAF50.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:34 * BHSPitLappy2 sounds as if he has an even an ounce of authority around here...heh 00:34 < NanoZ> ah, the 58MB one didnt display correctly, it only worked the first 5 seconds 00:35 < NanoZ> but i have a 87MB file of 2 minutes high quality and good audio 00:35 < Forceflow1049> i'm not the one writing the game 00:35 < Forceflow1049> it's mostly done 00:35 * BHSPitLappy2 dinner's. 00:35 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 00:36 < BHSPitLappy> being in a +m channel is a dumb reason not to be able to /nick... 00:37 < NanoZ> its to stop nick flooding from people who are mad because they dont have voice to talk 00:43 < Forceflow1049> can pz2 be built using windows? 00:44 -!- F-F_|hmf| [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:45 -!- linuxstb [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050317]"] 00:46 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:46 -!- F-F_|hmf| [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:47 < linuxstb> josh_: Did you ping? 00:51 < BHSPitMonkey> hey linuxstb, got that patch? 00:51 < BHSPitMonkey> err, and figure out the svn command? 00:53 < linuxstb> I'm just finishing the patch now. Rockbox has a checksum in the header, and I want to make ipodloader2 check that checksum is OK before executing Rockbox. Once I've done that, I'll upload a patch. 00:53 < linuxstb> ipodloader2 is (sort of) working on my 5g, so I can test it there. 00:54 < BHSPitMonkey> did you figure out the svn command? 00:55 < linuxstb> No, I didn't look. 00:55 -!- SlashX [n=MKnight@71.227.7.239] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:55 < BHSPitMonkey> hrm 00:57 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 < cypres> hmm... my iPod refuse to charge when booted in ipl... anyone experiance something similar... should i attempt to update the kernel? 00:58 < BHSPitMonkey> cypres: no lightning bolt? :S 00:58 < BHSPitMonkey> how recent is your kernel (though i don't think it should matter) 00:59 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 00:59 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, I got a lightning bolt... but it still runs out of juice quickly... and thats even with the USB-connecter plugged in.... 00:59 -!- BVegan [n=BVegan@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["evening, ladies and gents"] 00:59 < cypres> I can charge with the apple firmware running but not with ipl... So I guess its not a hardware problem 01:00 < cypres> running: 2006-01-17-kernel.bin.gz 01:00 < BHSPitMonkey> cypres: linux eats up the battery more quickly 01:01 < BHSPitMonkey> that, and a possibly weak battery, pretty much explains your problem I think... 01:01 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, I heard so, but even with the power plugged in it runs out... :S 01:01 < BHSPitMonkey> weird 01:01 < BHSPitMonkey> sounds like your battery needs replacing 01:02 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, perhaps... but still weird that there are no problems with the apple stuff 01:02 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, running a 4g ipod color btw 01:03 < BHSPitMonkey> well linux doesn't control how your battery gets charged, afaik 01:05 < cypres> how much more does linux require btw. is it still usable as a primary music player on the go? 01:07 < BHSPitMonkey> I'd say not... 01:07 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, depressing.... 01:07 < BHSPitMonkey> there's no sleep mode, the music has to buffer, you'll run into malloc problems sooner or later... 01:07 < BHSPitMonkey> cypres: why? :) 01:08 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, because I were getting all excited about running music straith of the harddrive through MPD/MPDC and not having to use itunesDB :) 01:09 -!- HaxorNinja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 < BHSPitMonkey> ah 01:09 < BHSPitMonkey> someday :) 01:09 < HaxorNinja> Anyone got a minute to help with my nano installation? Not long, just one error I am recieving 01:09 < HaxorNinja> I have searched the forums and all 01:09 < josh_> 3 01:09 < josh_> ^ ign. 01:10 < BHSPitMonkey> cypres: nobody said you can't do that, but i wouldn't use it as a "primary music player" 01:10 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: yeah we know ;) 01:10 < HaxorNinja> linux:/home/paul/Documents/ipodloader-20060114 # ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 ipod_os_partition_backup 01:10 < HaxorNinja> Cannot open firmware image file ipod_os_partition_backup 01:10 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has quit [] 01:10 < HaxorNinja> anyone make any sense of that? 01:10 < BHSPitMonkey> HaxorNinja: go to #ipodlinux.help 01:10 < HaxorNinja> ah 01:10 < HaxorNinja> thanks 01:11 -!- HaxorNinja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["asdasfgsb757n45s7"] 01:11 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, yeah I guess the itunesDB / Apple firmware is better for using the ipod as it were intended... but playing .flac files and files from harddrive through ipl so just so much more fun 01:11 -!- BVegan [n=BVegan@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #iPodLinux 01:12 < BHSPitMonkey> you can still do both 01:12 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-147-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:13 < cypres> BHSPitMonkey, yeah... but atm MPD does not fully see my iTunesDB and Apple firmware plays noting from the harddrive of course... so I am force to store music in 2 ways... an imperfect solution... perhaps the MPD will be able to parse the iTunesDB? 01:14 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["This is Surrealus of Borg. 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We will itemize your giraffes and disown your astronomical yachts."] 01:14 < BHSPitMonkey> it's actually being worked on right now. 01:14 < BHSPitMonkey> it's in courtc's priorities 01:15 < cypres> but when I see that blue lightning the iPod should be charging? 01:16 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 01:16 < BHSPitMonkey> turn on battery digits 01:16 < BHSPitMonkey> it's a lot more informative than the battery meter 01:17 < cypres> I don't quite understand battery digits... they tend to be a litte strange... not quite numbers... not quite something else... but when I read a 3 digit number... is that in fact the amout of battery left? 01:17 < BHSPitMonkey> pretty much 01:18 < BHSPitMonkey> do you use pz0 or pz2? 01:18 < BHSPitMonkey> (if you don't know, then it's 0) 01:18 < cypres> i guess its 0 then :) 01:19 < BHSPitMonkey> then the numbers really aren't on a fixed scale, you just need to figure out what your max is 01:19 < BHSPitMonkey> mine was like 515 i think 01:19 < BHSPitMonkey> (ish) 01:19 < cypres> the battery digist jump up and down 01:19 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 01:19 < BHSPitMonkey> the status is refreshed every second 01:20 < cypres> they seem to stay at a constat 01:20 * BHSPitMonkey sobs and sobs...his first "deep" scratch is on his nano's screen :( 01:21 < cypres> I'm using the ipod right now... possible the amount of current running into the battery is used at the same rate ? 01:21 < BHSPitMonkey> in podzilla2, the digits are on a scale of 0 to 1000, a little more understandable 01:21 < BHSPitMonkey> it's a possibility... 01:22 < cypres> it dropped to a lower constant 01:22 < BHSPitMonkey> you're losing! 01:23 < BHSPitMonkey> how old is the battery? 01:23 < cypres> indeed... perhaps a real AC usb power adapter will be able to keep up ? 01:23 < cypres> its about 5 months 01:23 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 01:23 < BHSPitMonkey> not sure, it's a possibility the battery is losing its ability to hold a charge 01:23 < cypres> it increased again to a slightly higher constant.... :S 01:25 < cypres> I'll stop flooding the channel with battery status now... but it is indeed falling slowing.... 01:26 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:29 < cypres> is the lastest kernel build 2006-01-19? Did i see a 20 in my imagination? 01:30 < BHSPitMonkey> the latest one is the one at the bottom of /builds...i don't care to go and see 01:30 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host152-20.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has quit ["Client exiting"] 01:30 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 01:30 < cypres> okay... that were also a stupid question.... less asking and more coffee 01:31 < BVegan> ok, being a nOOb I don't know just what that means - are you really seeing my system? Pulling my leg? Should I be getting paranoid? :-D 01:31 < BVegan> oh crap. posted that in wrong place. sorry, disregard :-) 01:32 < linuxstb> josh_: Here is a patch against the current SVN of ipodloader2 to add Rockbox support: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodloader2-rockbox.diff 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> suhweet 01:37 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-240-175.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:40 < BHSPitMonkey> About is in "Extras" now? 01:40 * BHSPitMonkey 's world view is shattered 01:40 < josh_> wait, where was it before? 01:40 < BHSPitMonkey> Settings 01:40 < BHSPitMonkey> like on the apple fw 01:41 < josh_> ah yes, that's where it should be. oops. 01:41 < BleuLlama> excellent, linuxstb! :D 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> if only i could get a good build of pz2 at all, now 01:42 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/podzilla2/modules/about/about.c: About goes in Settings, silly. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/726) 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> *grumble* 01:42 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: hrm? 01:42 < josh_> what doesn't work? 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm still getting stuck after that one line 01:42 < josh_> which one? 01:43 < BHSPitMonkey> iPL Bootloader 2.0 01:43 < josh_> oh, I see 01:44 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ipodloader2/ (config.c config.h loader.c): Rockbox support! Thanks, linuxstb! (And there was much rejoicing.) (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/727) 01:46 * BHSPitMonkey ditches trying the diff out... :P 01:46 < linuxstb> That was quick! Did you make any changes to my patch? 01:46 < josh_> just one, I had it not display the rockbox menu item if rockbox wasn't there 01:47 < linuxstb> Good. 01:47 < linuxstb> I've just realised it probably doesn't support a Rockbox entry in the config file either. 01:47 < josh_> I also need to add some heuristics to figure out whether a file in the config file is RB or linux 01:47 < josh_> any easy way to do that? do rb bins have a nice signature? 01:47 < linuxstb> rb bins are always called "rockbox.ipod" 01:48 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ipodloader2/loader.c: Added a debug line that prints what it thinks the PP is. BHSPitMonkey - TEST! (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/728) 01:48 < BHSPitMonkey> yay! i'm in a commit description! 01:48 < josh_> shit, now it freezes on mine. 01:48 < josh_> what fuun. 01:48 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> i bet it works on mine then! 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> ^^ 01:49 < josh_> tias :-) 01:49 < linuxstb> Ah, the joys of bootloader development... 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> aunts? 01:49 < josh_> Try It And See 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> not a spanish speaker? 01:49 < josh_> nope 01:49 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 01:50 < BHSPitMonkey> you're fluent in more languages than I, i bet 01:50 < josh_> nope, just en and (semi) fr 01:50 * aegray fluent in gibberish 01:50 < aegray> ishtaclitaki 01:51 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: i was referring to C, etc 01:51 < josh_> ah :-) 01:51 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/ttk/schemes/red.cs: Added a comment. Hi BHSPitMonkey! (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/729) 01:51 < BHSPitMonkey> YAY! 01:51 * BleuLlama abuses DVN 01:51 < BleuLlama> *SVN 01:51 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 01:51 < josh_> BleuLlama: any reason? 01:51 < BHSPitMonkey> Hi BleuLlama! 01:51 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: I believe he just gave one 01:53 < BHSPitMonkey> to think, today I was going to figure out a way to switch between bootloaders from within iPL 01:53 < BleuLlama> josh_: no 01:53 < BHSPitMonkey> and then, bam, work on it booms 01:57 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: do I still need the CFLAGS? 01:57 < josh_> probably not, if it's freezing 01:58 < josh_> hrm 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> haven't built the new one yet 01:58 < josh_> don't try it, mine is freezing so yours probably will to :-) 01:58 < josh_> actually, it's rebooting, I can tell now 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> nah, my ipod is superior in some way 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> i know it 01:59 < imphasing> josh_: If you're not busy, could you take a look at this, and tell me why you think it's segfaulting? 01:59 < imphasing> http://localhost/leet.c 02:00 < imphasing> um. 02:00 < josh_> haha 02:00 < imphasing> http://imphasing.myvnc.com/leet.c 02:00 < imphasing> heh. 02:00 * imphasing dork 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> /you suck 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> err... 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 02:01 < imphasing> josh_: The part with the problem, is the longjmp to the setjmp(c) 02:01 < josh_> well yeah 02:01 < imphasing> I'm trying to use longjmp like a goto, which I think should work.. 02:01 < josh_> no, it doesn't. 02:01 < imphasing> Mm.. 02:01 < josh_> longjmp only works if setjmp has been called on that jmp_buf before 02:02 < imphasing> Oooooh... 02:02 < imphasing> :D 02:02 < imphasing> Thanks. 02:02 < josh_> otherwise, how would it know where to go? longjmp and setjmp are just functions, they don't get any help from the compiler 02:02 * BHSPitLappy reaches out and tries desperately to grab some genius-rays 02:02 < josh_> besides, you can setjmp() the same jmp_buf in several places - how would it know which one to pick? 02:02 < josh_> haha 02:02 < imphasing> I figured the compiler set jump points dynamically, before any execution started. 02:02 -!- pedropenguin [n=chatzill@pcp990521pcs.nchrls01.sc.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:02 < imphasing> s/set/sets/ 02:02 < davidc__> nope - its done while running 02:02 < josh_> nope, they're just functions 02:02 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ipodloader2/loader.c: *Correctly* read the PP regs. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/730) 02:02 < davidc__> setjmp is just a function 02:02 < pedropenguin> is anyone experienced with videora? 02:02 < imphasing> Ah, ok. 02:03 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: ^ try that one 02:03 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:03 < BHSPitLappy> pedropenguin: it's relatively easy to use...but it's not this channel's topic, either 02:04 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: on it. 02:04 < imphasing> So longjmp is used more to rewind to a place it already was, and it can't jump ahead like a goto. 02:04 < davidc__> unless you goto ahead and jump back 02:04 < davidc__> setting the setjmp first 02:04 < imphasing> Hah. 02:05 < pedropenguin> BHSPitLappy: sry it seems very user friendly but i am new to the ipod. I transcoded my video to MP4320X240 have even looked at guides on it. I still get the message when i try to put it on ipod that the ipod cant play ir 02:07 < pedropenguin> you have any ideas what im doing wrong? 02:08 < josh_> pedropenguin: does this have *anything* to do with iPodLinux? 02:08 < pedropenguin> only ipod chan i could find on the server sorry 02:08 < cypres> jumpy jump jump....... jump to bed 02:08 < cypres> good night all 02:09 < pedropenguin> do you know of a better channel to ask this in? 02:09 -!- cypres [n=cypres@50A2FF21.flatrate.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:10 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["reboot"] 02:10 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: any luck? 02:10 -!- pedropenguin [n=chatzill@pcp990521pcs.nchrls01.sc.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> no 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> same thing 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> wtf 02:11 < josh_> does it at least print an extra line? 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> no 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> :S 02:12 < josh_> did you make clean before building? if not, tryi t. 02:12 < josh_> *try it. 02:12 < BHSPitMonkey> i completely re-svnned the whole directory 02:13 < josh_> hm. 02:13 < BHSPitMonkey> it was as clean as it gets :/ 02:14 < imphasing> http://imphasing.myvnc.com/leet.c #not my own code, but I thought it was really cool.. 02:14 < imphasing> It calculated pi from its own source code. 02:14 < imphasing> :D 02:14 < BleuLlama> i just broke my powerbook 02:14 < josh_> ah, that 02:16 < BHSPitMonkey> imphasing: 22/7? 02:17 < linuxstb> josh: Your commit to fb.c on 15 January seemed to break the "type 1" LCDs - adding the "-1"s here: fb_565_bitblt(x,0,0,ipod->lcd_width-1,ipod->lcd_height-1); 02:18 < linuxstb> If I revert that change, the startup code in the bootloader runs properly, and then the menu comes up with "iPL Loader 2.0", but no menu... 02:18 < imphasing> BHSPitMonkey: wha? 02:18 < BHSPitMonkey> 22/7 ~= pi 02:19 < imphasing> ish. 02:19 < imphasing> :P 02:19 < BHSPitMonkey> a little TOO approximately... 02:19 < josh_> linuxstb: ah, didn't notice that it was significantly different than the mwin version 02:19 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ipodloader2/fb.c: Clean up my mess. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/731) 02:19 < BHSPitMonkey> :) 02:20 < BHSPitMonkey> should that make a difference for me? 02:20 < linuxstb> BHSPitLappy: Yes - we share the same type of lcd 02:20 < BHSPitMonkey> but i mean should that commit fix things? you said there was still a flaw 02:20 < josh_> linuxstb: do you have a 60004 color? 02:20 < iPL-SVN> jonrelay * tools/podzilla2/modules/tiwidgets/tiwidgets.c: Improved horizontal scrolling in single-line text input. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/732) 02:20 < linuxstb> josh_: Yes - the "type 1" lcd 02:20 < josh_> jonrelay: thanks 02:20 < josh_> linuxstb: ah ok 02:21 < BHSPitMonkey> aaahhhh! 02:21 < BHSPitMonkey> aaaahhhh! 02:21 < linuxstb> Better? 02:21 < BHSPitMonkey> is there a way to undo rm????? 02:21 < BleuLlama> restore a backup 02:21 < linuxstb> On what filesystem? 02:21 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: what FS? 02:21 < josh_> and what did you delete? 02:21 < BHSPitMonkey> my journalised 02:21 < BHSPitMonkey> the contents of my ipodloader folder :( 02:21 < josh_> what's wrong with that? 02:22 < BHSPitMonkey> it had all my fw images! 02:22 < josh_> oh. 02:22 < josh_> what fs? 02:22 < josh_> ext3 or some other? 02:22 < BHSPitMonkey> ext3 journalized i think 02:22 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:22 < josh_> paste the output of df -h to .flood 02:22 < BHSPitMonkey> (mandriva) 02:23 -!- SlashX1896 [n=MKnight@71.227.7.239] has joined #ipodlinux 02:23 < SlashX1896> hey 02:23 < SlashX1896> is there a ipod help irc channel? i dont think this is the place to ask non ipod linux questions 02:24 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:24 < linuxstb> josh_: Another potential bug could be all the files you are opening but never closing - MAX_FILES is defined to be 10 in vfs.c 02:24 < josh_> linuxstb: ipodloader2 can't close files... 02:24 < erus`> 5g5g5g 02:25 < linuxstb> josh_: I know - I think you should increase MAX_FILES. You list 6 config files and 10 kernels.... 02:25 < linuxstb> Plus there are other places you open files. 02:25 < linuxstb> Or implement "vfs_close". 02:25 < josh_> failed opens don't count 02:26 < linuxstb> But it would stop the loader opening a kernel image or Rockbox. 02:26 < SlashX1896> i need some help my friend just got an ipod video and we wanna add some vids and photos 02:26 < josh_> 18:23 < SlashX189> is there a ipod help irc channel? i dont think this is the place to ask non ipod linux questions 02:26 < josh_> ^ you just answered your own question. 02:26 < BHSPitLappy> hey jonrelay 02:27 < SlashX1896> how.. 02:27 < jonrelay> Hey BHS 02:27 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: you know what's interesting, the big topic earlier today in #rockbox was discussing expanding the .FNT format 02:27 < BHSPitLappy> aka anti-aliasing stuff 02:28 < jonrelay> Heh :) 02:28 < BHSPitLappy> oh, and my aquafont.fnt DID load in my rockbox sim 02:28 < BHSPitLappy> so it's some peculiarity with pz2 02:28 < jonrelay> The full one? 02:28 < josh_> what aquafont? 02:28 < jonrelay> josh_: http://aquablue.milkcafe.to/tears/font/sample.htm 02:29 < josh_> cool, is it freely available? 02:29 < BHSPitLappy> i downloaded it freely, so i assumed it was... 02:29 < jonrelay> Yeah, it is. 02:29 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: no, the 4kb one 02:29 < jonrelay> There's a link on that page to download it, but you have to navigate through Japanese. 02:29 < BHSPitLappy> the non foreigner-friendly one 02:30 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: i downloaded it from a simple english page :P 02:30 < jonrelay> OK, so there is something strange with how pz2 handles it. :/ 02:30 < BHSPitLappy> i never even noticed it had a japanese origin... just a quick google mission 02:31 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 < jonrelay> Or rather, with how ttk handles it. 02:34 < josh_> jonrelay: the ttk FNT loading funcs are taken almost exactly from Microwindows 02:34 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:34 < jonrelay> So it's their fault. :) 02:35 < BHSPitLappy> so, lets take our fnt loading funcs from rockbox instead :) 02:36 -!- birdfish [i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:38 * NanoZ is away (auto-away after 2hrs of inactivity) - (06:38 pm) 02:38 -!- NanoZ is now known as gogs-away 02:40 -!- Pac_Man2k6 [i=XeroGues@ip68-111-157-179.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:40 < Pac_Man2k6> hello 02:41 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:42 -!- SlashX1896 [n=MKnight@71.227.7.239] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:43 < BHSPitLappy> waka 02:43 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:43 < Pac_Man2k6> is that hi? 02:43 < BHSPitLappy> in your language, it is 02:43 < Pac_Man2k6> yay 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> well 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> ok 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> could u help me? 02:44 < BleuLlama> Pac_Man2k6: do you know what Aosuke is? 02:44 < BHSPitLappy> ask your question, don't ask to ask 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> ok 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> so 02:44 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: I sure don't :) 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> i followed a tutorial from 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5281 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> ther 02:44 < Pac_Man2k6> and 02:44 < BHSPitLappy> "Ask only so users kan eliminate?" 02:45 < Pac_Man2k6> i got to were i type in the cmd prompt 02:45 < Pac_Man2k6> aes 1 /info 02:45 < BleuLlama> Pac_Man2k6: that's unsupported in here 02:45 < Pac_Man2k6> but it gives me this back 02:45 < BleuLlama> ask for help on the forums 02:45 < BleuLlama> read the topic 02:45 < BHSPitLappy> Pac_Man2k6: /topic says state your os and generation 02:45 < BHSPitLappy> also, you're flooding like mad 02:45 < Pac_Man2k6> k 02:45 < Pac_Man2k6> thx 02:45 -!- poolio [n=poolio@pcp0011735036pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 02:46 -!- BVegan [n=BVegan@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["iPL - everyone should have it!!!"] 02:46 < Pac_Man2k6> well i fixed it 02:46 < Pac_Man2k6> jsut forgot to extracht a file, thx for the yea... 02:47 < BHSPitLappy> uhh don't mention it 02:50 < linuxstb> josh_: ipodloader2 SVN is working for me now - but only if I remove the call to find_somewhere() that looks for a config file. (I don't have a config file). 02:50 < linuxstb> But there is one odd thing - the backlight doesn't come on. 02:51 < BHSPitLappy> yes, i've had config-related troubles before 02:51 < josh_> that's weird still, hrm. 02:53 < BHSPitLappy> yes, it's my belief that the config file implementation has always been flawed :/ 02:55 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:57 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:58 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 < BHSPitLappy> is cvs down? 03:01 < BleuLlama> i'm down. 03:05 < imphasing> And out.. 03:05 < imphasing> :() 03:05 < BHSPitLappy> is cvs down? 03:05 < BleuLlama> i'm down. 03:05 -!- Pac_Man2k6 [i=XeroGues@ip68-111-157-179.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:06 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: take a look at the font yet? 03:06 < BleuLlama> i 03:06 < BleuLlama> i'm sorry, but you can't call yourself "Pac-Man" and not know who Aosuke is. 03:07 < BHSPitLappy> umm 03:07 < BHSPitLappy> who are you talking to? 03:07 < BleuLlama> the channel 03:07 < BHSPitLappy> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6662039400772256759&q=pacamajig 03:18 < imphasing> :D 03:24 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:29 -!- degreseven [n=Bryan@c-67-160-65-52.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:43 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 03:45 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-138-89-74-33.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:50 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:00 < linuxkernel> did you guys know the USB port on a tivo makes a nice charging slot for an ipod 04:00 < linuxkernel> just found that out 04:02 < gogs-away> really? 04:02 < gogs-away> sweet 04:02 < gogs-away> i have one of those 04:02 < BHSPitLappy> heh 04:02 < gogs-away> i took my hd out of it though 04:02 < gogs-away> hehe 04:02 < gogs-away> in my pc now 04:03 < BleuLlama> where'd you find a 1.8" to 3.5" adapter? 04:04 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: the tivo 04:04 < BleuLlama> aha 04:04 < gogs-away> i wonder if my muvo tx fm could charge my ipod 04:05 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:05 < gogs-away> where the memory stick slides into the battery battery slot 04:05 < gogs-away> via usb 04:07 -!- linuxkernel [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:15 < Luke> davidc__: you around? 04:15 < davidc__> yep 04:15 < davidc__> Luke: why'd you close offtopic? 04:15 < Luke> i think it was me but i cant remember for sure 04:15 < BleuLlama> i have gotten NOTHING done tonight 04:15 < Luke> there was a thread about it like... 3-6 months ago... bern wanted it closed 04:15 < davidc__> eh.. it wasn't done that long ago 04:15 < aegray> i knodk3d my desk over if that counts as somthien 04:15 < davidc__> there was some traffic in it just this month 04:16 < davidc__> from non-mods 04:16 < BHSPitLappy> aegray: nice 04:16 * aegray accompisies something 04:16 < aegray> shes* 04:16 < davidc__> I re-opened it because the SnR was going waaay down everywhere else 04:16 < Luke> davidc__: well thats inconsequential 04:16 < Luke> what about it tho? 04:16 < Luke> you want it back open? 04:16 < davidc__> already done it 04:16 < Luke> k 04:16 < davidc__> didn't know why it was closed 04:16 < Luke> wasnt my decision i was just the one to implement it 04:16 < Luke> you better talk to bern or read the thread 04:16 < aegray> bern is MIA 04:16 < davidc__> and I was tired of seeing people post " offtopic is closed, so I'm posting this in $x " 04:16 < davidc__> I'll talk to bern next time I see him 04:17 < Luke> davidc__: ah thats fine then 04:17 < davidc__> yea, he's on vacation or something 04:17 < BHSPitLappy> skiing accident? 04:17 < aegray> hes back from that i thought 04:17 < davidc__> I didn't know what happened why it was closed 04:17 < Luke> bern wanted it closed 04:17 < davidc__> maybe the activity in there was from mods movint threads into it :P 04:17 < davidc__> ok.. well, I'll talk to him 04:17 < Luke> k 04:17 < Luke> talk to vet too - he might remember 04:17 < davidc__> I don't care for the content in there.. but at least it keeps it outta sw dev 04:18 < aegray> bern originally closed it 04:18 < Luke> i just know like me, mod, court... maybe a few others talked about it for a bit and then closed it 04:18 < Luke> yea aegray is right I think. then when we did the db rebuild I reclosed it 04:18 < aegray> bkea 04:18 < aegray> yea 04:18 < Luke> davidc__: well dood if bern's not around its up to you cause i dont care either way if its open or closed 04:19 < Luke> i probably wouldnt even notice =) 04:19 < davidc__> yeah.. I don't care about the crap thats in there... its just that when its closed, the SnR goes waay down in other forums 04:19 < davidc__> because the n00bs don't have an outlet for their stupidity 04:19 < aegray> xNr? 04:19 < aegray> SnR* 04:19 < Luke> davidc__: yea you have a good point 04:20 < Luke> just keep it open then 04:20 < aegray> stupid & redinulous? 04:20 < Luke> its no biggy either way 04:20 < davidc__> Signal to noise ratio 04:20 < aegray> ah 04:20 < josh_> aegray: signal-to-noise ratio 04:20 < aegray> you lose robot 04:20 < josh_> haha 04:20 * BleuLlama kicks aegray 04:20 < BHSPitLappy> yay, it's josh. 04:20 -!- aegray was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray [you suck] 04:20 < BHSPitLappy> haha 04:20 * BleuLlama kicks aegray in the shins 04:20 < BleuLlama> oh. 04:20 < BleuLlama> idiot. 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> omg 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> i've left my nano here on the ipodloader2 freeze for like an hour 04:23 < BHSPitMonkey> can't be good for the battery 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> config 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> ^ignore 04:24 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:27 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:34 -!- holiday42 [n=me@24-179-184-223.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 -!- holiday42 [n=me@24-179-184-223.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:35 < joeyk> so, what's actually left in the 4G development? 04:36 < BHSPitMonkey> usb 04:38 < josh_> serial 04:38 < BHSPitMonkey> flashing LED's 04:38 < imphasing> Coffee maker. 04:38 < joeyk> o.O 04:38 < josh_> video out 04:38 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: what call did linuxstb comment out? 04:39 < BHSPitMonkey> (where was it?) 04:39 < imphasing> Deep fat fryer. 04:39 < BHSPitMonkey> keys finder 04:39 < jonrelay> lie detector 04:39 < BHSPitMonkey> HA 04:39 < BHSPitMonkey> jonrelay: MAKE THAT 04:39 < imphasing> And an automated-telemachineyola-mola-matron. 04:40 < BleuLlama> stupid dialogue generator. no wait, you all have that covered in here. 04:40 < imphasing> You bet. 04:40 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: but it's not ported to the ipod 04:40 < BleuLlama> true. 04:40 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: the call to find_somewhere for the config file 04:41 < BHSPitMonkey> is it in config.c? 04:41 < BHSPitMonkey> the function is, i believe, but I'm still not scrutinous enough to identify the call itself 04:42 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@dialup-4.159.116.56.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:45 < josh_> yep, it's in config.c 04:46 < BHSPitMonkey> "const char *confname = find_somewhere (confnames, "configuration file");" 04:46 < BHSPitMonkey> or 04:46 < BHSPitMonkey> "config.image[i].path = (char *)find_somewhere (kernnames, "kernel");" ? 04:47 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@138.89.11.101] has joined #ipodlinux 04:49 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit ["brb"] 04:49 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:50 < josh_> 2the first one 04:50 < josh_> ^ no 2 04:50 < BHSPitMonkey> yup 04:50 < BHSPitMonkey> thanks 04:50 < josh_> notice how it says "configuration file"? 04:50 < Mr_Milenko> We know thats no 2 04:50 < josh_> just change that line to 04:50 < josh_> const char *confname = 0; 04:50 < BHSPitMonkey> // ? 04:50 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 04:50 < Mr_Milenko> and this is no 3 04:50 < Mr_Milenko> see 04:50 < Mr_Milenko> 3 04:50 < Mr_Milenko> :D 04:51 < BHSPitMonkey> Mr_Milenko: smart ass. 04:51 < Mr_Milenko> i know.. 04:51 < BHSPitMonkey> ...lets be friends! 04:51 < Mr_Milenko> chili makes my bottom burble.. 04:51 * BHSPitMonkey changes his mind 04:51 < Mr_Milenko> im bored as hell man 04:51 < Mr_Milenko> i could be playing gameboy on my ipod... but noooo 04:52 * Mr_Milenko crys 04:52 < BHSPitMonkey> how about...playing gameboy on your gameboy? 04:52 < Mr_Milenko> i dont have a gameboy anymore :( 04:52 < Mr_Milenko> have all my games though :P 04:56 < BleuLlama> that reminds me... i need to fix my gba. 04:56 < birdfish> Does the ipod 5G support multiple genres through id3v2? 04:57 * BHSPitMonkey wants GBA-Linux 04:58 < BHSPitMonkey> but doesn't have the hardware... 04:58 * wizisi2k wants GBA games on his ipod video 04:58 < BHSPitMonkey> why isn't stuff like flash carts and modchips, etc available in stores? 04:58 * BHSPitMonkey sees no reason 04:58 < BHSPitMonkey> wizisi2k: for now, they better be turn-based 04:59 -!- gogs-away [i=gogs@12-208-197-225.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 04:59 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: jsut buy an e-reader, and print out your own dotcodes 04:59 < wizisi2k> ie FFTA? 04:59 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: http://hackaday.com/ 04:59 < birdfish> multiple genres per track, that is 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: hmm 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> i have one 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> and slightly researched that ability 04:59 < BHSPitMonkey> but to no avail 05:00 < BleuLlama> birdfish: itunes doesn't support it, so i imagine the answer is no 05:00 < birdfish> BlueLlama: thanks. I don't have either yet. I was just curious. 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: were you referring me to the first article on their homepage? 05:01 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:01 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 05:02 < aegray> wtf 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> because that would be a weird coincidence 05:02 < aegray> haha 05:02 < aegray> i joined #ipodlinux on efnet by accident 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> hahaha 05:02 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: yeah. they had that post earlier today 05:02 < aegray> i was wondering why nobody talke 05:02 < aegray> d 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> did you get a bunch pm's about freeipods and porn? 05:02 < aegray> no 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> wtf is "neuroSatanic narm" 05:04 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:05 < aegray> haha 05:07 < davidc__> BHSPitMOnkey - from who? 05:07 < aegray> me 05:07 < davidc__> aegray: there were people there? 05:07 < aegray> which? 05:07 < aegray> neurowhatever? 05:07 < aegray> oh 05:07 < davidc__> on efnet 05:08 < aegray> on #ipodlinux on 05:08 < aegray> no* 05:08 < aegray> i didn't realize it though 05:08 < aegray> so i sat there 05:15 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: so you think that thing requires a really hi-dpi printer? 05:18 < BleuLlama> i was analyzing the dotcode stuff with a friend when the e-reader first came out (we both bought them) and i researched the patents that were behind it. 05:18 < BleuLlama> anyway, i think we figured that you could print out codes on a 300dpi laser printer 05:19 < BleuLlama> not sure if inkjet will work, or if it'd be too blurry 05:19 < BleuLlama> we poked at it for a little while, then gave up 05:19 < BleuLlama> heh 05:25 < BHSPitMonkey> i could use the laser printer in my computer classes 05:25 < BHSPitMonkey> i print shit in there all the time 05:25 -!- DarthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:26 < BHSPitMonkey> is cvs down? can someone check? 05:37 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:39 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 05:39 < josh_> 3 05:39 < josh_> ^ ign. 05:42 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:43 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:45 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 05:50 -!- SaM^HeiN [i=Mr_Milen@dialup-4.158.252.126.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:51 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@dialup-4.159.116.56.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:51 -!- SaM^HeiN is now known as Mr_Milenko 06:01 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 06:03 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:06 -!- D4rthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:06 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:13 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:14 < BHSPitLappy> I dare someone to say something. 06:16 -!- BHSPitLappy was kicked from #ipodlinux by davidc__ [ dare accepted] 06:16 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-169-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:17 -!- zoneout [n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 06:18 < zoneout> Hey ppl, just wondering how/if development is going for the 5G ipod. 06:18 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 06:19 < davidc__> zoneout: slowly 06:19 < zoneout> davidc__, When is it expected to be officially supported on the site? 06:19 < davidc__> we don't give deadlins 06:19 < davidc__> it'll be done when its done 06:19 < davidc__> progress is slow 06:20 * zoneout lol... wise very wise 06:20 < zoneout> davidc__, What are the problems with it? 06:20 < davidc__> the LCD refresh time is hideous 06:20 < davidc__> everything else works 06:20 < davidc__> just the LCD redraw time is really nasty 06:20 < zoneout> davidc__, How do you mean? 06:20 < davidc__> as in taking a second to redraw the LCD 06:21 < zoneout> davidc__, oooch 06:21 < davidc__> the solution is to run the drawing code on the broadcom chip 06:21 < zoneout> davidc__, And I take it thats a big job? 06:21 < davidc__> which requires tons of RE work 06:21 < davidc__> tons and tons and tons 06:22 < zoneout> how many devs are working on it? 06:23 -!- DarthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:26 < josh_> zoneout: me, davidc__, leachbj, aegray 06:27 < zoneout> josh_, cool... 06:27 < zoneout> I'm much anticipating its release, but by all means take your time... 06:29 -!- D4rthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:30 < zoneout> Is there podcast support in ipodlinux yet? i.e. support for having other info from the along with the file? 06:30 < BHSPitLappy> ask courtc 06:31 < BHSPitLappy> he's been working on the itunesdb parser stuff 06:34 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:34 < zoneout> cool 06:36 -!- mattercat [n=marshman@h-67-101-51-242.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:39 -!- mattercat [n=marshman@h-67-101-51-242.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:40 < zoneout> I'm considering writing my own command line tool for synching the ipod. Specifically to include podcast support. 06:40 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:41 < zoneout> Currently I've cobbled together my own solution using gnupod and some scripts to download RSS enclosures, but it doesn't put the podcasts in the podcast menu, and I don't get the additional info from the on the ipod. 06:42 < zoneout> Sound-Mind, I'm thinking about dusting off my C skills and using libgpod to do it... Anyone here know if there's already a project to do this? 06:43 < zoneout> oops... sorry Sound-Mind, ignore its just a general channel comment :) 06:46 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [] 06:56 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@dialup-4.158.252.126.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit ["O_o"] 07:07 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:07 -!- DarthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:14 -!- D4rthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:16 -!- jchillerup [n=bille@port167.ds1-vir.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:18 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 07:25 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:29 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-86-86.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 07:31 -!- DarthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:32 -!- zoneout [n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:37 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=steve-o@adsl-64-217-216-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:37 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-169-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:37 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-169-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:39 -!- D4rthL4ppy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:39 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-236-127-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:39 < cdm> evening 07:40 < BHSPitLappy2> howdy 07:41 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 07:41 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 07:41 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 07:41 < BHSPitLappy> howdy Luke 07:46 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 07:52 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.166] has joined #ipodlinux 07:52 * cdm hides from EvilDude 07:52 < EvilDude> hey! :) 07:52 < EvilDude> apple made me happy today :P 07:53 < EvilDude> i upgraded firmware (downloaded the whole f'n 45mb over dial up) and its actually semi fast now, and fixed the lyrics going back to top when paused bug :p 07:53 < EvilDude> cdm, do you they give you any benefits for working in apple like a free dual core intel laptop ;) ? 08:00 < Niles> http://xthost.info/tools, http://xthost.info/tools http://gilest.co.nr http://giles.zoomcities.net/games 08:01 < cdm> Evil - the macbooks aren't shipping yet 08:01 < cdm> Evil - and no, shiny new mac hardware isn't the easiest thing to get get in ipod. 08:01 < EvilDude> ah damn, will you get one when they start? 08:01 < cdm> we get lots of ipods though. ;) 08:01 < Niles> http://xthost.info/tools, http://xthost.info/tools http://gilest.co.nr http://giles.zoomcities.net/games 08:01 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=steve-o@adsl-64-217-216-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:02 < EvilDude> I guess iPods are enough, especially at the rate they've been coming out lately :p 08:02 < EvilDude> cdm: you got a nano and a video then? 08:06 < cdm> sure 08:07 < EvilDude> i really wouldn't mind working where you are =\ 08:07 < EvilDude> have you checked out podzilla2 yet? 08:08 < cdm> man - tooo freaking busy. ;) 08:09 < EvilDude> haha damn shuffle upgrade coming up soon i bet ;) but have you at least read about it :O ? 08:09 < cdm> I don't work on shuffle. :) 08:09 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:09 < EvilDude> oh really? they seperate what you work on ? 08:10 < EvilDude> or is it just shuffle vs rest of the iPods ? 08:10 < cdm> oh no 08:12 < josh_> I know that the firmwares aren't quite as separate as it seems... I've definitely seen code in the Video firmware for handling other iPods. 08:12 < EvilDude> josh_: ooo, expand please :P 08:13 < josh_> In fact, the only differentiating thing I've seen in the firmware is a snippet just inside apple_boot that checks if it's a video and if not sets the next boot action to softupdt and reboots 08:13 < EvilDude> and actually I would believe that seeing there's this guy on iLounge who reckons his video somehow went back to the old 4g style 08:13 < josh_> but I think it's just a logistical nightmare for apple to try to maintain 13 different versions of what's roughly the same code tree 08:14 < josh_> they just add the check to make sure older users don't benefit from the new stuff (like OTG playlists) 08:14 < EvilDude> =\ evil! :p 08:14 < EvilDude> but in the actual updater, aren't there completely different images for each version? 08:14 < josh_> yeah, but the code inside those images isn't exactly tailored for their target iPod 08:15 < josh_> I just saw a pretty lengthy function in the video firmware that's only ever executed for photo LCDs... 08:15 < Niles> http://xthost.info/tools, http://xthost.info/tools http://gilest.co.nr http://giles.zoomcities.net/games 08:15 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-86-86.dialup.clear.net.nz] has quit [] 08:15 < josh_> Niles: why do you keep pasting that? 08:15 < EvilDude> hm, so josh_ wouldn't it be possible to remove that check and make some code work on a version it shouldn't 08:15 < josh_> theoretically 08:16 < EvilDude> hmmm whats annoying me about that is 08:16 < josh_> but there's probably other stuff that wouldn't quite work 08:16 < josh_> I can give you the address of the check if you want... 08:16 < EvilDude> I read an article by some of the apple firmware devs saying (when they released the 4g) that they couldn't add the "new" features such as multiple OTG playlists because they changed the dev environment from 3g -> 4g 08:16 < EvilDude> which sounds alright seeing they're different processors, but now they use the same image.. :S 08:17 < josh_> it's at 0x101A38DC 08:17 < EvilDude> na dont bother with address - i'm too stupid to actually find the place, dont know any arm asm so wouldn't help :( one day hopefully i will though :p 08:17 < EvilDude> *saves for future* 08:17 < josh_> which is an offset of 0x1A3ADC in an image extracted with make_fw or something 08:17 < josh_> you just need to change the top byte of the word at that address to 0xE 08:17 < josh_> change a conditional to an unconditional jump 08:18 < EvilDude> wow 08:18 < josh_> er, top nybble 08:18 < josh_> the instruction as it is is 02 00 00 1A 08:19 < josh_> you need to change it to 02 00 00 EA 08:19 < EvilDude> ahh 08:19 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S0106004005c40c76.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:19 < josh_> (remember, little-endian) 08:20 < josh_> also, you'd need to fix the checksum in the header - look at make_fw for that 08:20 < josh_> it'd be pretty cool if you got it to work though :-) 08:21 < EvilDude> it would :P I really need to learn how to go through this stuff 08:21 < EvilDude> what functions were you looking into? diag mode? 08:21 < josh_> retailos 08:21 < josh_> diag doesn't do anything with the BCM I'm pretty sure, and it's encrypted to boot 08:21 < EvilDude> anything interesting in there :P like a way to run external code from the notes function 08:21 < EvilDude> ah 08:22 < josh_> nope, sorry 08:22 < josh_> though I did see a "debug mode" in the bootloader, with a small shell and everything... 08:22 < EvilDude> ....expand please :P 08:22 < EvilDude> I wouldn't mind seeing what the iPod runs and how it does it ;) eg one big program or what 08:22 < josh_> well retailos is one big messy app 08:23 < EvilDude> wow, I expected some sort of seperation 08:23 < EvilDude> i thought maybe notes calendar etc might be external =\ 08:23 < josh_> about 1.7MB of code and 4MB of data 08:24 < EvilDude> that's a lot of data - just for the images ? (although there are a lot of random fonts and stuff) 08:24 < josh_> fonts, images, strings 08:24 < josh_> fonts in particular are pretty huge no matter what you do 08:24 < josh_> especially full Unicode fonts, which the iPod has 08:25 < josh_> what would be REALLY cool is patching iPodLinux into the menu system of retailos :-) 08:25 < josh_> which I think might even be possible 08:25 < EvilDude> yeah EXACTLY what i wanna do :p 08:25 < EvilDude> :O ? 08:25 < EvilDude> that's basically why I keep wondering if we can run external code somehow ! 08:26 < josh_> if their menu system works in a sensible way, you could add an entry and have it run code hidden in an image or something 08:26 < josh_> (not all the images in retailos are actually used) 08:26 < EvilDude> haha nice! would it be possible to just modify one of the menu's ? 08:27 < EvilDude> something people won't use :P 08:27 < josh_> yeah, you'd have to sacrifice another menu item for it 08:27 < josh_> maybe Settings -> Legal :-) 08:27 < EvilDude> hahaha 08:27 < EvilDude> exactly! 08:29 < josh_> thing is, you couldn't distribute patched versions, because the firmware is copyright Apple 08:29 < EvilDude> yeah I was thinking that as well 08:29 < josh_> you could, however, distribute an app to patch the firmware, but it would be specific to one firmware version 08:29 < EvilDude> but we can distriute programs to patch it ;) 08:29 < EvilDude> yeah =\ 08:31 < EvilDude> But in a while, I think there'll be little reason to use the apple firmware ;) except the video playback maybe :p 08:32 < EvilDude> Do you think it's possible to write a highly optimized mpeg4 / divx/ other compressed formats decoder for the iPod (with or without the broadcom chip)? 08:33 < josh_> yes, but I doubt it'd be optimized enough 08:33 < cdm> and the power numbers 08:33 < cdm> you guys have horrible power numbers. ;) 08:33 < josh_> also, if you were to launch iPL from retailos, you wouldn't have control over the COP - it'd still be doing the retailos routine, most you could do is put it to sleep 08:34 < josh_> cdm: your power numbers aren't any worse than ours for video playback 08:34 < EvilDude> haha 08:34 < cdm> what are you comparing? 08:34 < cdm> photo to video? 08:34 < josh_> EvilDude: thus, anything that used the COP wouldn't work - that includes audio 08:34 < EvilDude> hm cant we tell the COP to listen to ipl ? 08:35 < EvilDude> oh wait 08:35 < josh_> EvilDude: nope 08:35 < EvilDude> it would need to maintain apple os stuff I guess 08:35 < josh_> the COP is its own processor 08:35 < josh_> it can only do what it's programmed to do 08:35 < josh_> you can't send it instructions or tell it to jump somewhere or anything 08:35 < EvilDude> :( 08:35 < EvilDude> maybe if we figure out how apple deals with the COP? 08:36 < cdm> josh - what are you comparing for these numbers? 08:36 < josh_> still, we didn't write the routine so we can't put in a check against some memory value that says "jump to some addr so iPL can start" 08:36 < josh_> cdm: photo to video 08:36 < josh_> is it that much of a difference? 08:36 < cdm> fuck yes. ;) 08:37 < cdm> it's call backlight and lit pixels 08:37 < josh_> ok 08:37 < EvilDude> ah yeah that's right =\ 08:37 < EvilDude> i was thinking about that last night :S 08:37 < josh_> ok, you win :-) 08:37 < EvilDude> about how good the backlight is :) 08:38 < cdm> anyways - on the last photo you should be able to achive 18-22 hours of playback. 08:38 < josh_> cdm: was there ever an 0xA rev iPod, or can you not tell us? I saw references to it in the source, it looked like it had a color screen. 08:38 < josh_> s/source/disasm/ 08:39 < cdm> I really don't track how the firmware team tracks ipods. 08:39 < josh_> ok, np 08:40 < josh_> photo was 6, mini was 7, ... then we skipped to 0xB for video and 0xC for nano 08:40 < josh_> s/mini/mini 2g/ 08:40 < EvilDude> what do you do cdm? control what programs are on the actual iPod? 08:40 < josh_> and there are references to the missing numbers (8, 9, 0xA) in the source 08:40 < josh_> so I just wondered if you knew :-) 08:40 < josh_> s/source/disasm/, again. 08:41 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:41 < cdm> EvilDude - my card reads "Senior Engineer, eh? - iPod Platform Group" 08:41 < cdm> that is all I am gonna say. :) 08:41 < EvilDude> yeah, but what does that mean you do :P ? 08:42 < EvilDude> by the way, your latest update supposedly broke the SD ram test in diag mode, and completely killed the 60gb in case you didnt know =\ 08:42 < cdm> ahhh - mysteries of Apple eh? 08:42 < EvilDude> supposedly, I have a 30gb that works great, and looks even better :p 08:42 < cdm> my 60GB works fine with 1.1 08:43 < EvilDude> haha, well that's coz you buy videos :p 08:44 < EvilDude> how many iPods do you have 08:44 < EvilDude> (i think I wanna be jealous :P) 08:44 < cdm> beyond all the ones I have in various states of open / borkeness in my office? 08:44 < EvilDude> haha yeah the ones that you can take home and kill :P 08:45 < cdm> I have a 20G 4G, 60G 5G, 2x nano 08:45 < EvilDude> and install ipl on ;) 08:45 < EvilDude> heh only a few :p 08:45 < EvilDude> have you tried installing ipl ever ? 08:45 < cdm> nope 08:45 < EvilDude> (dont try now, wait for a new installer which supports 5g + pz2 :P) 08:45 < EvilDude> why! arent you the least bit interested :| ? 08:45 < cdm> no time 08:46 < EvilDude> is apple that bad a place to work that they give you iPods to enjoy but no time to enjoy them ;) ? 08:46 < josh_> EvilDude: that installer won't be here for a while ('specially the 5g part) unless cdm writes it :P 08:46 < josh_> (not asking you to break NDA cdm, just a joke) 08:46 < EvilDude> haha 08:46 < EvilDude> 5g is working thought isn't it :S 08:46 < josh_> slooooowly 08:47 < josh_> cdm can still lord his BCM over us 08:47 < EvilDude> and by slow lcd access, how slow, like when you're browsing lists very slow or showing more than 10fps slow 08:47 < EvilDude> aww :( 08:47 < josh_> 6 fps max, and that's if you're not doing anything except updating the screen. 08:47 < EvilDude> ouchie :| 08:47 < cdm> hehehehe 08:47 < EvilDude> i guess having a 320x240 screen is also taking it's toll 08:47 < cdm> yeah, I warned aegray that would be the case. 08:47 < josh_> yeah 08:47 < josh_> I did some timings 08:48 < josh_> it's 1.67 us per pixel plus 14 ms finishup time 08:48 < cdm> Evil - actually no 08:48 < cdm> it's more complex then that. 08:48 < EvilDude> hm how so? 08:48 < cdm> come now 08:48 < josh_> every pixel has to be transferred to the BCM 08:48 < EvilDude> =\ 08:48 < josh_> and you have to wait for it to digest it before sending the next one 08:48 < josh_> and it's not exactly a fast pipe 08:49 < EvilDude> ah i see 08:49 < EvilDude> cdm, get your guys to stop encrypting stuff ;) we only wanna have a little fun! :P 08:49 < cdm> well, obviously the retail firmware isn't only getting 6fps 08:49 < EvilDude> haha 08:49 < josh_> EvilDude: the BCM is a full CPU, the retailos can run its own code on it 08:50 < josh_> instead of the pitiful read-LCD-pixels-then-send-them-to-the-LCD loop it runs by default 08:50 < EvilDude> yeah, and a fast one too :) 08:50 < josh_> basically, as you send pixels to it it puts them in memory 08:51 < josh_> then the "finishup" command sends them to the LCD 08:55 < josh_> oh 08:55 < josh_> cdm: why didn't you strip the symbol names out of the videocore apps? 08:56 -!- lBoxy [i=littleBo@213.195.203.138] has joined #ipodlinux 08:56 < EvilDude> hahaha you better not strip them in the next firmware ;) 08:56 < jonrelay> josh_: Now why'd you have to say that? ;) 08:57 < EvilDude> we already got what we need though I guess ;) 08:57 -!- axxe [n=axxe1@h239n2fls31o1000.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:57 < josh_> jonrelay: I just wanted to show him how much we knew, it's not like he really can cause any damage now that two versions of the firmware are already released :P 08:57 < axxe> hey 08:57 < jonrelay> Ah 08:58 < axxe> how is the development going for my 60 gb ipod photo? 09:01 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:01 < axxe> ? 09:02 < BHSPitLappy> hey everyone 09:02 < axxe> hey 09:02 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 09:02 < BHSPitLappy> hey EvilDude, i expected you to be on :P 09:02 < EvilDude> haha hey 09:02 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: where'd you get that Podium Sans font, btw? 09:02 < EvilDude> was having a fun chat with cdm :) 09:02 < josh_> well, more with me than with cdm 09:02 < axxe> no one can help me? 09:02 < josh_> axxe: it's unsupported. that means it's unsupported. 09:02 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: apple firmware 09:03 < EvilDude> yeah more with josh_ in front of cdm ;) 09:03 < BHSPitLappy> nano specifically 09:03 < EvilDude> hahahaha 09:03 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: you should really grab the video firmware sometime 09:03 < josh_> extract the rsrc image, chop off the first 512 bytes 09:03 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: just because its podium is bigger? 09:03 < josh_> see what `file' tells you, and expect to be enlightened 09:03 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: huh? 09:03 < BHSPitLappy> I have all the firmwares... 09:03 < josh_> get the video firmware out of an iPod updater or something 09:04 < axxe> josh_: it was a beta version before.. and that was 2 months ago :/ 09:04 < josh_> make_fw -o video_rsrc.fw -e 1 video.fw 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> the original or the revision 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 09:04 < josh_> doesn't matter 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> ok 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> fine 09:04 < josh_> dd if=video_rsrc.fw bs=512 skip=1 of=video_rsrc.img 09:04 < josh_> file video_rsrc.img 09:04 < josh_> get it now? 09:04 < EvilDude> brb 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: my linux box is on my lan, and it gets firmwares from this lappy 09:05 < josh_> ah 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> this lappy doesn't happen to be on MY home's LAN at the moment... 09:05 < EvilDude> i gotta go off for a while :( 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 09:05 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.166] has quit [] 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> my internet is once again off 09:05 < josh_> anyway, if you want me to spoil the surprise and tell you I will 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> ok 09:05 < josh_> it's a FAT16 filesystem image 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> what the 09:05 * cdm got a Belkin MIMO access point / router recently. Wicked good box 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> but why? 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> WOW 09:06 < josh_> because it contains a bunch of files? 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> lots of possibilities are running though 09:06 < josh_> inside the folder Resources/Fonts you'll find a bunch of *.ttf files 09:06 -!- axxe [n=axxe1@h239n2fls31o1000.telia.com] has quit [] 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> oh. 09:06 < josh_> we devs are more interested with the files in Resources/VideoCore :-) 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> i thought you had some better news 09:07 < BHSPitLappy> silly josh_ . making a big fuss over fonts 09:07 < josh_> you clearly haven't been reading everything I said 09:07 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.166] has joined #ipodlinux 09:07 < josh_> 01:06 < josh_> we devs are more interested with the files in Resources/VideoCore :-) 09:07 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: i thought you meant they weren't accessible 09:07 < EvilDude> oo what have i missed :p 09:07 < BHSPitLappy> in that case, yippee! 09:07 < josh_> nothing 09:07 < josh_> (@Ev) 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: then stop wasting attention in here and get! 09:08 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: inside Resources/VideoCore/Library there are files like h264dec_mw.vll... ARC ELF with symbols. 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> that's amazing 09:08 < EvilDude> ah good 09:09 * BHSPitLappy is sorry he didn't get on the neighbor's wifi sooner 09:09 < josh_> we still don't know how to get stuff *onto* the 5g, so it's kind of a moot point 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> i've just been playing the piano this whole time... 09:09 < josh_> er onto the BCM 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> meh 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> don't worry about it 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> it will take care of itself 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> i'm sure it will 09:10 < josh_> heh, sadly it won't unless we work on it :-) 09:10 < BHSPitLappy> heh 09:10 < BHSPitLappy> sadly, our best devs give a little *too* much time to IRC, explaining things to useless people like me :) 09:10 < josh_> leachbj is really the one who's the best at this stuff, and he's been really busy lately 09:10 < EvilDude> gotta learn somehow :P 09:11 < BHSPitLappy> but that's awesome, i'm gonna try to bridge the network now so I can use my desktop 09:11 < EvilDude> he's been busy for the last like 2 or 3 years =\ he's too skilled :P 09:11 < BHSPitLappy> his powers are needed elsewhere 09:11 < josh_> `leachbj 09:11 < iplbot> leachbj is amazing, pay hommage. [from josh_] 09:11 < josh_> :-) 09:12 < BHSPitLappy> well, tis a good day 09:12 < josh_> what made you think we found all this stuff out today? 09:12 < EvilDude> haha 09:12 < BHSPitLappy> trying to think from an RE standpoint, it does seem like that was a little *too* easy ... 09:13 < BHSPitLappy> maybe it's a pseudo-fs apple planted there to sabotage hacker projects like this one! 09:13 < BHSPitLappy> :) 09:13 < josh_> nope 09:14 < cdm> hahaha - like we have time to setup honey pots for you guys 09:14 < josh_> we've known about the rsrc since Sat Nov 12 2005 09:14 < EvilDude> he's known since LAST YEAR :O :P 09:14 < EvilDude> sorry, had to make it seem long ;) 09:15 < josh_> all the devs have 09:15 < josh_> slowcoder is the one who actually figured it out 09:15 < josh_> 3 09:15 < josh_> ^ ign. 09:19 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:19 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:19 < BHSPitLappy2> yeah... 09:20 < BHSPitLappy2> not even gonna TRY that whole bridge thing right now... 09:20 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 09:21 < EvilDude> heh 09:22 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: so is that not the same resources that I thought you could get into the updater and see pretty easily with a mac all along? 09:22 < josh_> nope 09:22 < josh_> the graphics are still embedded in osos 09:22 < josh_> along with some of the fonts 09:22 < josh_> (the bitmap ones) 09:23 < josh_> er wait, misunderstood your question 09:23 < josh_> the resources in the updater are just *whole* firmware files 09:23 < josh_> you grab one, run make_fw -e 1 on it, and mount it, and then look in *there*. 09:23 < EvilDude> the image of the os has it's own resources section :) 09:29 < BHSPitLappy> and i managed to do all of it in windows, so I didn't need my linux box :) 09:30 < BHSPitLappy> ^evil words! 09:31 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: does the new firmware (radio) have anything extra? 09:31 < BHSPitLappy> (in this image) 09:32 < josh_> haven't taken a look at it 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> do you just have the older one? 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> want me to? 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> i'm just interested to see if it has extra stuff regarding the communications through the dock connector 09:33 < josh_> I mean, I haven't taken a look at it in an RE sense 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> nevermind 09:34 < BHSPitLappy> hmm... mplayer :) 09:34 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 09:37 < BHSPitLappy> gawd, downloading from across your backyard is sloooww 09:37 < BHSPitLappy> :P 09:37 < BHSPitLappy> i'm actually reduced to dialup speeds 09:38 < EvilDude> :( 09:39 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:40 < BHSPitLappy> umm... 09:40 < BHSPitLappy> weird, none of those "ttf" fonts display in xp correctly... 09:40 < jonrelay> In OS X neither. 09:41 < BHSPitLappy> good thing stephen made that awesome SFont. he's a lifesaver. 09:43 -!- bushblowz [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:51 < BHSPitLappy> so EvilDude, what's new with you? 09:51 < BHSPitLappy> any coding since we last exchanged words? 09:51 < EvilDude> nope not really 09:51 < EvilDude> been lazy 09:51 < EvilDude> i just cbf with chopper 09:51 < EvilDude> :P 09:52 < EvilDude> maybe you should learn c properly and fix it up ;) 09:53 < BHSPitLappy> ha 09:53 < BHSPitLappy> what exactly does cbf stand for 09:53 < BHSPitLappy> can't be found? couldn't bake fruitcakes? 09:53 < EvilDude> didnt you ask that last time :| 09:53 < EvilDude> cant be fkd 09:53 < BHSPitLappy> no 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> i've never heard of it. 09:54 < EvilDude> cant be fucked 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> uh huh 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> i heard you 10 seconds ago :P 09:55 < EvilDude> ahh i thought you meant 09:55 < EvilDude> didnt heard of fkd and repeated myself 09:55 < BHSPitLappy> maybe felix will take an interest in it and pick it up :) 09:56 < EvilDude> maybe you should :P 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: I can imagine that by the time I'm practicing writing the simplest of programs, either someone else will have finished it or I'll have lost interest :/ 09:59 < EvilDude> heh dont do anything simple then :D 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> right. 09:59 < EvilDude> just go to chopper and play around with the variables 10:00 < BHSPitLappy> that's all that's left, now is it? ;) 10:01 < EvilDude> yeah 10:01 < EvilDude> basically 10:01 * BHSPitLappy has half a percent left on this laptop's drive :S 10:01 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit ["I bad want sleep now. Me sick."] 10:04 < BHSPitLappy> that crazy jonathan... 10:05 < BHSPitLappy> just occured to me that a lot of other nicks in here have relevance to their actual names, unlike me 10:05 < EvilDude> yeah like mine 10:05 < EvilDude> first name Evil, last Dude 10:06 < BHSPitLappy> Jon(athan)relay, court(ney)c(alvin), josh(ua oreman), davidc__... 10:06 < BHSPitLappy> yes, and evil dude 10:07 < josh_> aegray only has the "A" 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 10:07 < josh_> bleullama, coob, and a bunch others are completely unrelated 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: don't you have something to do... 10:07 < josh_> davidc, leachbj, josh_ are pretty close 10:07 < josh_> heh 10:08 < BHSPitLappy> because I don't. that's why I get to think off on tangents. 10:08 < BHSPitLappy> it's 4am and I've not a thing to work on. 10:09 * BHSPitLappy tinkers with chopper. 10:09 < EvilDude> imagine the productivity of josh_ without people like us wasting his time :OI 10:09 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:09 < BHSPitLappy> I keep telling him that... 10:09 < BHSPitLappy> he never gets it... 10:18 < EvilDude> I'm gonna go, you guys do something useful :P 10:18 < EvilDude> cya 10:18 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.166] has quit [] 10:22 < spazzium> heh... that's incredible news 10:22 < spazzium> about h.264 10:23 < spazzium> you guys are gonna make me buy a 5g... 10:33 < lBoxy> spazzium> what? 10:33 < lBoxy> what about h.264? 10:33 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium died in a grease fire 10:33 < spazzium> it was horrible 10:33 < lBoxy> does it will work on nano too? 10:34 < BHSPitLappy> does what? 10:34 < BHSPitLappy> h.264 video? 10:34 < spazzium> seriously, I'm covered in 3rd degree burns, have you no concern for my life? 10:34 < BHSPitLappy> no 10:34 -!- degreseven [n=Bryan@c-67-160-65-52.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:51 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:51 * spazzium mocks BHSPitLappy2's isp 10:54 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:06 -!- svamli [n=svamli@er.fallegur.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:07 < svamli> Hi guys, some genius awake ? 11:09 < svamli> I am having one problem, I have iPod Mini 4gb, golden edition, I ran ipod_linux_installer.exe and everything went fine, then I rebooted the ipod and I get some folder icon and ! sign in a triangle :S 11:09 < spazzium> `diskmode 11:09 < spazzium> [06:09] diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: play+center 11:09 < spazzium> 'restore 11:09 < svamli> I dont understand you... 11:09 < svamli> what should I do ? 11:10 < svamli> Ok now he's in Disk Mode 11:10 < spazzium> first manually reboot the ipod 11:10 < svamli> yes 11:10 < spazzium> http://ipodlinux.org/Key_combinations 11:11 < spazzium> then put it in diskmode 11:11 < spazzium> then use the apple restore utility 11:11 < svamli> But if I want ipodlinux ? :D 11:11 < spazzium> read the wiki 11:12 < svamli> http://ipodlinux.org/Troubleshooting#When_I_boot_my_iPod.2C_I_see_a_folder_icon_with_a_warning_triangle 11:12 < svamli> Maybe I should read this :> 11:12 < spazzium> [06:11] then use the apple restore utility <--- apparently I agree 11:16 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 11:18 < svamli> What generation is my ipod then? 11:19 < spazzium> if you made it to this irc channel you should be able to navigate the wiki 11:19 < spazzium> http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 11:20 < svamli> Second Generation ? 11:22 -!- Timjanmannen [n=kvirc@h152n1fls308o1032.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:22 < Timjanmannen> yo 11:22 < Timjanmannen> im having problem compiling podzilla2 11:23 < Timjanmannen> says it cant find libintl.h 11:25 < Lex> how much bogomips does ipod's processor have? :o 11:25 < Timjanmannen> nobody wants to help me? :( 11:28 < Timjanmannen> im running win2k with a 2 gig nano, trying to compile through cygwin 11:29 < Timjanmannen> low activity here =/ 11:30 < spazzium> Timjanmannen: that's a lost cause 11:30 < Timjanmannen> why so? 11:30 < spazzium> come back again with linux 11:31 < Lex> :) 11:31 < Lex> cygwin is so poor 11:31 < spazzium> weee 11:31 < Timjanmannen> then why is there links and help to cygwin on the wiki? 11:31 < Lex> because there are some noobs who can't use linux 11:31 < spazzium> Timjanmannen: because it can do a limited number of things 11:32 < spazzium> but bleeding edge development is not one of them 11:33 < Timjanmannen> but wtf dosnt anyone write that on the ipodlinux site then? damn linux guys, you can at least be a little informative =( 11:34 < spazzium> if the devs spent all their time testing and documenting their stuff instead of actually writing it, you and I wouldn't even be talking 11:35 < Timjanmannen> hah, i usually spend more time debugging(testing) than writing code :P 11:35 < spazzium> but not documenting 11:36 < Timjanmannen> no, but wtf, how long does it take to write "cygwin users: its a lost cause"? 11:36 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACCAAF50.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:36 < Timjanmannen> not that long time =/ 11:36 < spazzium> most people don't need to be told :P 11:38 < Timjanmannen> this is what i dont like about linux users, and why i dont want to become one myself. you got fregging attitude problems, kinda like those poor guys playing cs but on a more elite level =( 11:38 < spazzium> I'm sorry you're offended, but the fact that you had to compile pz2 yourself might indicate that the code isn't ready for everyone yet 11:39 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:39 < Timjanmannen> sorry, didnt get what you meant 11:41 < Timjanmannen> what did you mean? 11:41 < spazzium> podzilla2 is still in development, it's not ready for everyone yet 11:41 < Timjanmannen> so is windows 11:43 < Timjanmannen> but that's not the point, unless i misunderstood you again, my point is that you could be a little more informative 11:45 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@138.89.11.101] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:47 < Lex> wtf.. 11:47 < Lex> windows won't mount my ipod 11:47 < spazzium> that's no good 11:48 < Lex> HMMM 11:49 < Timjanmannen> its all fixed now, i made an account and changed the 'building podzilla' page so that we windows users dont have to waste a lot of time 11:49 < Timjanmannen> took less than a minute, btw 11:49 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:50 < Lex> ;S what's the problem.. 11:50 < Lex> itunes says that no ipod connected 11:50 < Timjanmannen> read the forums, noob =P 11:50 < Lex> Timjanmannen: shut up 11:51 < Lex> heh 11:51 < Lex> the problem was, i had sftpdrive turned on, and now it recognizes ipod 11:51 < Timjanmannen> cant take a joke? 11:51 < Lex> Timjanmannen: not on this mood 11:52 < Timjanmannen> excuse me, im not elite enough to read emotions over irc yet 11:52 < Lex> i really hate windows 11:52 < Lex> but i needed to install this only because of fglrx doesn't support my card 11:53 < Timjanmannen> duh, change card =P 11:53 < Lex> just bought this 11:53 < Lex> and sold my old 9800 pro 11:53 < Timjanmannen> maybe you should have checked for compability first then 11:54 < Lex> i didn't know that this is on a r481 core 11:54 < Timjanmannen> shit happens 11:56 < svamli> ohh nice :> 11:57 < svamli> what shall I do if the penguin is just sitting there and listening? :> 11:58 < Timjanmannen> slap him around with a large trout? 11:58 < svamli> eh I cant, I was installing linux on the ipod and then rebooted and the logo is just there 11:58 < svamli> nothing happens 12:00 -!- Timjanmannen [n=kvirc@h152n1fls308o1032.telia.com] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 12:01 < svamli> hmm 12:02 < svamli> I rebooted and then the kernel was booting.. 12:02 < svamli> nothing happens 12:02 < svamli> Im just in the 'console' 12:02 < svamli> http://blogtuts.gameportalonline.com/?p=8 I followed this 12:02 < spazzium> svamli: if you're using the windows installer, I can't help you, I know nothing about it, or that guide 12:02 < Lex> svamli: did you remember to move podzilla to the root of your ipod? 12:03 < svamli> yes 12:03 < svamli> Execution finished, Exiting 12:03 < svamli> says the screen 12:03 < Lex> try to reboot it 12:03 < svamli> Already done 12:03 < svamli> I'll try to copy another podzilla 12:03 < Lex> wait 12:03 < svamli> k 12:03 < Lex> did you remember to chmod your podzilla? :) 12:03 < Lex> chmod +x /bin/podzilla 12:03 < svamli> I am in windows :o 12:03 < Lex> yea 12:03 < Lex> boot to apple os 12:04 < Lex> and then make a file called "start" into your ipod 12:04 < Lex> and add there this line: "chmod +x /bin/podzilla" 12:04 < svamli> I made him in the install progress 12:04 < Lex> hmm, it should work with that installer 12:04 < Lex> what gen ipod do you have 12:04 < svamli> I have Ipod mini 4gb gold color 12:04 < svamli> second gen I think right? 12:05 < Lex> hmm 12:06 < Lex> http://ipodlinux.org/2g_mini why didn't you do that? :o 12:06 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:07 < svamli> Steps (for windows) 12:07 < svamli> Excellent tutorial HERE (http://blogtuts.gameportalonline.com/?p=8) that also solves blank screen problem if you have it. 12:07 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 12:07 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 12:10 < svamli> I copyed start and podzilla again to the root of the ipod 12:10 < svamli> ITS WORKING 12:10 < svamli> :D 12:11 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:14 < svamli> spazzium I did it! 12:14 < svamli> :> 12:17 < spazzium> great! 12:17 < spazzium> iDoom is great fun :) 12:18 < Lex> yeah, if i could play it on pz2 .__. 12:18 < svamli> Can I start ssh server on it? 12:19 < spazzium> hmm 12:19 < Lex> svamli: no 12:19 < Lex> you can start telnet on it 12:19 < spazzium> weird 12:20 < spazzium> sorry... testing out irc client here 12:21 < svamli> Lex and how do I connect to it ?' 12:21 < Lex> svamli: wiki :) 12:22 < Lex> http://ipodlinux.org/Ethernet 12:22 < svamli> Ethernet over fw, I just have USB :( 12:24 < svamli> Cant I use it then? 12:28 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-170-133.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:34 < Lex> i don't know 12:34 < Lex> i have a photo 12:34 < Lex> ipod i mean :P 12:34 < svamli> And do you use fw for him? 12:45 -!- Gnub [n=Gnub@EV-ESR1-72-49-116-101.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 < svamli> It's not nice when I am playing music and then want to browse, the song stops :( 12:52 < svamli> How can I turn him off? :S 12:52 < svamli> He always reboots 12:52 < Gnub> checkout what the wiki says about MPD 12:52 < Gnub> he? wtf are u talkin about 12:53 < svamli> Im in podzilla, and I go -> Power -> Turn Off Ipod -> Absolytely 12:54 < svamli> Then he sends the kill signals and so on 12:54 < svamli> Then he just reboots 12:54 < Gnub> it reboots right? 12:54 < Gnub> u cant "turn it off" 12:54 < Gnub> itsll always stay on 12:54 < Gnub> u can make the mac firmware "sleep" 12:54 < Gnub> i think there still working on that 12:54 < Gnub> in podzilla 12:55 < Gnub> but if u want to listen to music an browse checkout "music player daemon" 12:55 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-027-146.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:55 < Gnub> MPD 12:56 < svamli> olk 12:57 < svamli> Gnub is there some wiki on ipodlinux or sum about mpd? 12:57 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 12:59 < Gnub> http://ipodlinux.org/MPD 12:59 < Gnub> uve never been to ipodlinux.org? 12:59 < svamli> Im new :> 12:59 < Gnub> i hope ur joking 12:59 < Gnub> how the hell'd u install it without the wiki? 13:00 < Gnub> musta found a windows installer or something :( 13:02 < ufoalien> wtf 13:02 < ufoalien> windows on ipod? 13:03 < Gnub> i mean the platform used to install IPL (ipodlinux) to your ipod 13:03 < svamli> ufoalien ipod will crash using windows ;( 13:03 < svamli> heh 13:04 < Gnub> more like it'll go though an infinite loop of doing nothing but making chritical error beeps 13:06 < svamli> indeed 13:22 < Lex> reactos would be cool on ipod :D 13:22 < Lex> if it could work 13:22 -!- disident [n=disident@lec67-4-82-235-56-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:25 < Gnub> i dunno whyd u'd want windows in the firat place 13:25 < Gnub> its closed source 13:25 < Gnub> :P 13:26 < Gnub> thats nofun 13:26 < Gnub> hence "freenode" 13:32 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has joined #ipodlinux 13:37 -!- DarthLappy [n=DarthShr@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:42 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:48 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 13:54 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:55 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 14:07 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACCAAF50.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:08 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:08 -!- disident [n=disident@lec67-4-82-235-56-34.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:10 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 14:19 -!- young_cereal [n=michael@p54B20BE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:34 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:36 -!- lightman_ [n=zourse@stavanger-dhcp-223-189.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:42 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fd591.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:50 -!- intim [n=benzyl@d068075.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:53 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 14:54 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:59 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:00 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["asdasfgsb757n45s7"] 15:02 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 15:03 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 < linuxstb> BHSPitLappy: Any luck with ipodloader2 yet? 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17:36 -!- Ethanino [n=ethanino@63-227-114-63.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:51 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:55 -!- Benji_ [i=Dksar@dsl-hkigw7-fe15f900-1.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 17:56 < Benji_> Hi! Which one is better podzilla or floydzilla? 17:57 < BleuLlama> floydzilla has more stuff in it, but podzilla is more up to date, and significantly more stable 17:58 < Benji_> is there a bootloader for installing both at the same time? 17:59 < Benji_> and is there any others than pod and floyd? 17:59 < BleuLlama> floydzill is podzilla, but with added bugs 17:59 < BHSPitLappy> linuxstb: nope 18:05 < BHSPitLappy> damn sbc dsl's been out for 11 hours so far 18:05 < Benji_> thanks for the info. one more question. do u happen to know if there is a difference in battery consumption between linux and apple's own os? (using podzilla on nano atm) 18:06 < BHSPitLappy> yup 18:07 < BHSPitLappy> linux battery consumption > apple battery consumption 18:07 < BHSPitLappy> :) 18:09 < Benji_> big diffrence? 18:10 < BHSPitLappy> not really sure how to tell 18:10 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:10 < BHSPitLappy> but linux currently lacks good power management 18:10 -!- svamli [n=svamli@er.fallegur.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 18:10 < BHSPitLappy> poweroff beta at least allows you to turn it off 18:12 < Benji_> do u think it'll be "fixed" the batt consumption? 18:12 -!- Chiyachan [n=avatargu@user-7040.l3.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:12 < Chiyachan> Hello 18:13 < BHSPitLappy> not sure what I can tell you... 18:13 < BHSPitLappy> not a dev :) 18:14 < Benji_> ok :) i'll hope and wait for better days 18:14 < Chiyachan> Is the ipod photo a 4g ipod? 18:15 -!- Chiyachan [n=avatargu@user-7040.l3.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:15 < Benji_> :) 18:15 < BHSPitLappy> morning, Chiyachan 18:20 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:21 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:21 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 18:23 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:27 -!- goblenk [n=no@dslb-084-060-199-231.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:27 < goblenk> Hi 18:27 < goblenk> anyone there? 18:31 < goblenk> grml 18:35 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:35 < haxorninja> anyone here? 18:36 < goblenk> i just asked the same thing 18:36 < goblenk> no answer yet :-) 18:37 < haxorninja> damn 18:37 < goblenk> yea 18:37 < haxorninja> do you know what you are doing at all? 18:37 < goblenk> np 18:37 < goblenk> no 18:37 < goblenk> i just have a simple ipod question 18:37 < haxorninja> well I can help you 18:37 < haxorninja> whats your question 18:38 < haxorninja> and really you are supposed to be in "ipodlinux.help" 18:38 < haxorninja> but whatever 18:38 < goblenk> i have a usb-ac-adapter that has 5.6volt/750ma and i was wondering if i could charge my 5g ipod with that thing 18:38 < goblenk> its a 3rd party mobile accessory 18:38 < haxorninja> I would not risk it 18:39 < haxorninja> it depends on what it says is supported 18:39 < haxorninja> but the 5g take more power 18:39 < goblenk> it says nothing 18:39 < haxorninja> I would not use that. 18:39 < goblenk> why does the 5g take more power 18:39 < goblenk> it cannot take more power when beeing charged via usb 18:39 < goblenk> usb=5volt 18:41 -!- intim [n=benzyl@d068075.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:48 < coob> ipod can take 12v via firewire 18:50 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:51 -!- linuxstb [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:52 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcs232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 18:53 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:54 < goblenk> yea but the 5g 18:54 < goblenk> only has usb 18:54 < goblenk> so 18:54 < goblenk> 5V 18:55 < goblenk> how much V has the original AC-Adapter? 19:03 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:04 < coob> no 19:04 < coob> it has a coil for the fw charger 19:04 < coob> no fw, but it can take 12v in on the right lines 19:04 < coob> original (fw) ac adapter is 12v 19:04 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 19:10 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:28 -!- forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 < goblenk> ah, ok 19:29 < goblenk> thanks! 19:36 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:37 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:38 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@24.147.105.41] has joined #ipodlinux 19:38 -!- Etho [n=Ethanino@63-227-114-63.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-144-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 < Etho> slowcoder? 19:40 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@24.147.105.41] has quit [Client Quit] 19:40 < Etho> I just installed ipodloader2 and I cannot select anything in the boot menu, have any thoughts? 19:42 -!- Etho [n=Ethanino@63-227-114-63.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:43 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:45 -!- tullamore_dew [n=h2o@dslb-084-057-074-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:46 < Zyrill> Etho: if you get it to work, would you write an article about how you did it for the wiki? 19:47 -!- tullamore_dew [n=h2o@dslb-084-057-074-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:47 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:50 -!- haxorninja [n=paul@cpe-024-074-234-229.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:51 < linuxstb> Etho: Which ipod do you have? 19:52 < linuxstb> Ah, he's gone.... 19:52 < linuxstb> Why do people do that? 19:52 < haxorninja> linux 19:52 < haxorninja> I have one quick question ahh 19:55 < BHSPitLappy> anyone around that can answer a ttk question? 19:55 -!- McStar [i=McStar@82.111.114.158] has joined #ipodlinux 19:55 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:56 < McStar> hi just downloaded iboy-mini-2g-bin.tar.gz from bholland. How do you get it to work on floydzilla???? 19:57 < Lex> courtc: does launching files from pz2 work now? 19:58 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@24.147.105.41] has joined #ipodlinux 20:01 < haxorninja> Anyone willing to help with a quick error I get 20:01 < haxorninja> please I ahve been sitting on here and ipodlinux.help all day 20:01 < haxorninja> literally 20:02 -!- linuxstb_ [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:07 < McStar> aegray are you there? 20:10 < haxorninja> damnit damnit damnit 20:11 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:12 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 20:12 < BHSPitLappy> hello again 20:12 < BHSPitLappy> internet went out 20:13 < haxorninja> BHSPitLappy 20:13 < haxorninja> please help with one error 20:15 -!- alphakiller [n=bohas@200.162.22.132] has joined #iPodlinux 20:16 < Benji_> goblenk, u can charge ur ipod imo 20:16 < BHSPitLappy> must be a long error, it's taking you a while to spit it out 20:16 < Benji_> i made an charger out of 5,8V and it works fin 20:17 < Benji_> apple store sells a solar charger with 6V, that's why i risked my ipod with 5,8V 20:18 -!- linuxstb [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:18 < Benji_> http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/fistore.woa/9201404/wo/ir3V9k0mtt5N3uNAucD1pJX77jq/1.0.19.1.0.8.25.7.11.0.3 20:19 < haxorninja> ok ok 20:19 < haxorninja> BHSPitLappy 20:19 < haxorninja> I get the following error and have no idea what to do (BTW, I can not read all of the text, it starts off the view of the screen, but this is what I CAN see) : 20:19 < haxorninja> I have a nano, also. 20:19 < haxorninja> [code] 20:19 < haxorninja> evice 20:19 < haxorninja> e: No such device 20:19 < haxorninja> vice 20:19 < haxorninja> Command: hdparm -s 3 / 20:19 < haxorninja> setting standby to 3 20:19 < haxorninja> Command podzilla 20:19 < haxorninja> [/code] 20:19 < haxorninja> It hangs there forever, won't budge. Any suggestions? 20:19 < haxorninja> I have searched the forums, there are similar errors having to do with Eth0 or something, but none have this error. AHHH I am so close too 20:19 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:20 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:20 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 20:20 < haxorninja> and that is my error, thats it. 20:21 -!- alphakiller [n=bohas@200.162.22.132] has left #iPodlinux [] 20:22 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:23 -!- linuxstb_ [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:23 -!- linuxstb__ [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:23 -!- linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb 20:23 < haxorninja> I am guessing no one will know what that is, I am guessing it is a pretty uncommon error. Crap. 20:23 < Benji_> can't u boot it? 20:23 < Benji_> with holding down menu and select? 20:24 < haxorninja> that restarts it, then the text scrolls real fast 20:24 < haxorninja> then it shows that error 20:24 < Benji_> and u set it to boot to linux by default? 20:24 < haxorninja> [code] 20:24 < haxorninja> evice 20:24 < haxorninja> e: No such device 20:24 < haxorninja> vice 20:24 < haxorninja> Command: hdparm -s 3 / 20:24 < haxorninja> setting standby to 3 20:24 < haxorninja> Command podzilla 20:24 < haxorninja> [/code] 20:24 < haxorninja> It hangs there forever 20:24 < haxorninja> yes I set linux as the default 20:25 < Benji_> try pressing rewind or forwind when booting 20:25 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@24.147.105.41] has quit [] 20:25 < Benji_> if it goes to apple os 20:25 < haxorninja> that brings me to the apple os 20:25 < haxorninja> that works fine 20:25 < Benji_> ok 20:25 < Benji_> restoring and re-installing podzilla maybe? 20:26 < haxorninja> 3 times 20:26 < haxorninja> though 20:26 < Benji_> strange 20:26 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 < Benji_> did u install with an installer? i did mine and it works fine on nano 20:28 < McStar> Can anyone help me install bholland's build of iboy for 2g mini please??? 20:28 < haxorninja> no 20:28 < haxorninja> Iuse linux 20:28 < haxorninja> so I had no installer 20:29 < haxorninja> followed the guide though exactly 20:30 < Benji_> ok. can't help u. sorry 20:31 < haxorninja> thanks anyways 20:33 -!- linuxstb__ [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 -!- linuxstb__ [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:34 < goblenk> benji pm :) 20:35 < Benji_> pm=? 20:36 < goblenk> i sent you a query 20:36 < goblenk> private message 20:36 < goblenk> ... 20:36 < Benji_> can't see it 20:36 < goblenk> hi 20:36 < goblenk> you still there? 20:36 < goblenk> i actually thought 5.6v would be too much, because standard usb = 5v, but if the original apple ac adapter has 12v... 20:36 < Benji_> oh. maybe it went to someone else? 20:36 < goblenk> no 20:36 < goblenk> ^^ 20:37 < Benji_> to benji instead of benji_ ? 20:37 < goblenk> no 20:37 < goblenk> ^^ 20:37 < goblenk> am writing to you 20:37 < Benji_> well i didn't get it :) 20:37 < goblenk> :) 20:37 < goblenk> thats ok 20:37 < BHSPitLappy> maybe you don't know how to see it :) 20:37 < Benji_> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) 20:37 < BHSPitLappy> ah 20:37 < goblenk> ah 20:37 < BHSPitLappy> hehe 20:37 < Benji_> that's why.. 20:37 < goblenk> :) 20:37 < goblenk> im not spamming :) 20:38 < Benji_> BHSPitLappy, or maybe i do :P 20:38 < goblenk> but im kinda unregistered 20:38 < Benji_> me too 20:38 < goblenk> does anyone have the 5g usb ac adapter? 20:38 < Benji_> anyway. did u see the link about the solar charger 20:38 < goblenk> yea, thans 20:38 < goblenk> ks 20:38 -!- linuxstb [n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:38 < goblenk> still not sure 20:38 < BHSPitLappy> Benji_: :D 20:38 < goblenk> :-/ 20:38 < Benji_> on my 3rd party charger (nokia mobile phone quick charger) was written 5,7V 850mA 20:39 < goblenk> on mine its 5.6v 750ma :P 20:39 < Benji_> i measured it and it was 5,8V and made a charger out of it 20:39 < goblenk> its a nokia charger, too 20:39 < goblenk> but its already a usb thing 20:39 < Benji_> already? 20:39 < goblenk> wait 20:39 * Benji_ waits :) 20:40 < goblenk> http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/73/14/7f_1_b.JPG 20:40 < goblenk> thats my nokia charger 20:40 < goblenk> it came with a usb->nokia cable 20:40 < goblenk> so i thought i could just plug the usb->ipod in there, too 20:40 < Benji_> i think u can 20:40 < goblenk> but i still am worried if this is gonna harm my battery in the long term 20:41 < Benji_> cause the i soldered on my own is quite the same 20:41 < goblenk> i couldnt find any number or email adress to contact apple 20:41 < goblenk> is that service so damn fucked up or didnt i look hard enough 20:41 < Benji_> i think it won't cause apple is selling that solar thing that puts 6V 20:41 < goblenk> yea 20:41 < goblenk> but 20:42 < goblenk> that thing says Rated output: 4-12 V, 0-1 Amp 20:42 < goblenk> whatever "rated output" means 20:42 < Benji_> that nokia thing? 20:43 < goblenk> no, the solar thin 20:43 < goblenk> g 20:43 < Benji_> yes 20:43 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3579854.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:44 < goblenk> so the ipod is capable of a 4-12v input? 20:44 < Benji_> that could be some kind on min/max values 20:44 < Benji_> prolly 20:44 < goblenk> hmm 20:44 < Benji_> cause fw puts 12V 20:44 < goblenk> would be a nice thing 20:44 < Benji_> it's sounds logical 20:44 < goblenk> fw puts 12, usb 5 20:44 < goblenk> yea 20:44 < Benji_> and i was told that ipod has inside it built regulators that 20:44 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Success] 20:44 < Benji_> set the suitable voltage 20:45 < Benji_> or something like that, i'm no expert in electronics. i can handle only the basic physics in electricity.. 20:45 < goblenk> i guess one could expect that of a 300$ product, but i wasnt sure at all 20:46 < goblenk> i found another ipod charger that has Output: 5.5V + 5%. Max:1000 mA. Min:150 mA. 20:46 < goblenk> so i think 5.6/5.8v is good 20:46 < Benji_> 300$?! wow. where did u buy it? :) 20:46 < goblenk> nowhere 20:46 < goblenk> i didnt pay 20:46 < Benji_> stolen! >:) 20:46 < goblenk> just estimating the price 20:46 < goblenk> no, free.ipod :D 20:46 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:46 < goblenk> isnt it like 300usd? 20:46 < goblenk> or even more 20:47 < Benji_> hmm. it could be, i live in finland so my mind is in euros.. :) 20:47 < Benji_> converted it to 300euros but that's not the truth 20:47 -!- McStar [i=McStar@82.111.114.158] has quit [] 20:48 < Benji_> 268e in apple store so it could be close to 300$ 20:48 < BHSPitLappy2> hey Benji_, just wondering... how popular is Conan O' Brien over there? 20:48 < goblenk> 268e? 20:48 < goblenk> in germany its 319e 20:48 < Benji_> 268 € = 323.87800 U.S. dollar 20:48 < goblenk> ;) 20:48 < goblenk> why is it 40 euros cheaper in finland :P 20:49 < Benji_> dunno. it should be cheaper in germany cause u have much cheaper electronics there 20:49 < goblenk> normally 20:49 < goblenk> but apple does its own thing 20:49 < goblenk> :) 20:49 < Benji_> BHSPitLappy, it's quite popular :D 20:49 < goblenk> anyway, i paid like 5 euros 20:49 < BHSPitLappy2> heh 20:49 < Benji_> goblenk, is it 319 in apple store? 20:49 < BHSPitLappy2> Benji_: the resemblence to the president? :D 20:49 < goblenk> yea 20:49 < Benji_> BHSPitLappy, have u seen the invite video made in finland? 20:49 < goblenk> its less 'on the street' 20:50 < goblenk> euro 299,12 is the cheapest offer online 20:50 < BHSPitLappy2> don't think os 20:50 < haxorninja> BSHPitLappy2 20:50 < BHSPitLappy2> *so 20:50 < haxorninja> do you know something about my error? 20:50 < Benji_> "hey man, got something" the guy opens his jacket with full of ipods "yeah, what do need, special price for u" (on the stree ;) 20:50 < BHSPitLappy2> haxorninja: never saw it. 20:50 < goblenk> lol 20:50 < BHSPitLappy2> type it in .help 20:51 < haxorninja> alright 20:51 < goblenk> we dont have that in germany 20:51 < goblenk> try eastern europe :-) 20:51 < BHSPitLappy2> try NYC? 20:51 < Benji_> we neither 20:51 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:52 < Benji_> cool, windows exploder chrashed 20:53 < BHSPitLappy2> heh 20:53 < BHSPitLappy2> good riddance! ;) 20:54 < Benji_> and it crashed again when i selected a file 20:54 < haxorninja> God damn I knew this wouldn't work! Bah! 20:54 < Benji_> and will again if i do so 20:56 < Benji_> goblenk: http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/germanstore.woa/91104/wo/014WK51uvvzG25nZnks1ZwgwLg1/1.SLID?nclm=iPodnano&mco=226DCD1B 20:57 < Benji_> 249euro 20:57 < goblenk> ipodnano? 20:57 < Benji_> 4gig nano 20:57 < Benji_> german apple store 20:57 < goblenk> who was talking about a NANO 20:57 < goblenk> :P 20:57 < goblenk> i was talking about 5G 30gb 20:57 < Benji_> oh :) 20:57 < goblenk> :) 20:57 < goblenk> anyway, got news 20:57 < Benji_> i was so into nano cause i have one :) 20:58 < BHSPitLappy2> my nano looks like it got in a fight with steel wool :( 20:58 < goblenk> i just got an email from an electrician who told me that the ipod ac adapters have another configuration than other usb charger 20:58 < goblenk> hmmm 20:58 < goblenk> i am still worried that i'll destroy my ipod 20:58 < goblenk> :-( 20:59 < Benji_> what does he mean by that 20:59 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:59 < goblenk> well, a usb cable has 2 cables inside 21:00 < Benji_> i charged my nano and it works fine. it is written thougj 5-30V on the back on nao 21:00 < Benji_> nano* 21:00 < goblenk> maybe he just talks shiat to sell me another ac adapter 8-) 21:00 < Benji_> 4, two for power. 21:01 < goblenk> hm 21:01 < Benji_> i read something about the the "real" ipod adapters having some special things because for the ipod to know if it is getting it power from wall of real usb 21:01 < goblenk> hmm 21:02 < Benji_> but mine worked fine though 21:02 < goblenk> maybe i should just pay 25e for a wall adapter 21:02 < Benji_> or buy a third party ipod adapter for cheaper, there are those also available 21:02 < Benji_> ebay for example 21:02 < goblenk> yea 21:02 < goblenk> but i could use mine then, too 21:03 < goblenk> dont think they make any difference ;) 21:03 < Benji_> well, but if u want an adapter made for ipods and with 5V 21:03 < Benji_> :) 21:03 < goblenk> hmhm :) 21:03 < goblenk> btw how does the universal dock load the battery? 21:04 < goblenk> what do you plug into it 21:04 < Benji_> dunno 21:05 < Benji_> http://www.campus111.com/ipodchrger3in1.htm 21:05 < Benji_> there's one for 4 dollars :D 21:05 < Benji_> with prolly 10-15$ shipping 21:05 < goblenk> lol 21:07 < haxorninja> hey it says replace the inittab in /etc with one line of code 21:07 < haxorninja> but the initial file is like 50 lines 21:07 < haxorninja> do I just replace everything with that one line? 21:10 < Benji_> http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/191/94/ i made mine something like that 21:10 < Benji_> with those instructions.. 21:11 < goblenk> thanks 21:11 < Benji_> it is very simple to make actually and didn't cost anything! :D 21:15 -!- ves [n=ves@cpc1-john1-4-0-cust246.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-240-175.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 < Benji_> has anyone played videos on nano? 21:22 < spazzium> yes 21:22 < haxorninja> how 21:22 < haxorninja> I just got it running 21:22 < haxorninja> podzilla 21:22 < haxorninja> and after peeing in my pants 21:22 < haxorninja> I am gonna try to get videos to work 21:23 < spazzium> personally I'd go for replacing your pants first 21:23 < Benji_> spazzium, can u tell what do i need. i'm using windows and have podzilla installed 21:25 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:26 < spazzium> Benji: if you can get one of the night podzilla and kernels on that's all you need 21:26 < spazzium> I can't tell you how to do it from windows, because I never have 21:26 < Benji_> ok 21:28 < spazzium> s/night/nightly 21:29 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3579854.sympatico.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:32 < Benji_> anyone know how can i update my podzilla with windows? 21:33 -!- Resonant [n=Resonant@ip70-161-239-5.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 < Resonant> Hm, odd. 21:33 < Resonant> After I installed the poweroff_beta, my ipod automatically boots into Linux 21:33 < Resonant> and I cant get back to the standard firmware. :o 21:33 < Resonant> Using iPod Nano 2Gig. Installed from Windows. 21:35 < Resonant> Oh, and before I installed the poweroff beta, the original Apple firmware was set to boot by default. 21:36 < haxorninja> can anyone tell me what this is 21:36 < haxorninja> linux:/home/paul/Documents/IPOD # cp iDoom1_2 /mnt/ipod/home 21:36 < haxorninja> cp: omitting directory `iDoom1_2' 21:37 < haxorninja> i don't know how to copy that to my ipod 21:37 < josh_> haxorninja: cp -R iDoom1_2 /mnt/ipod/home 21:37 < haxorninja> thanks 21:43 < haxorninja> damn 21:43 < haxorninja> the iDoom is nice 21:43 < haxorninja> hard to control 21:43 < haxorninja> but looks great even on a nano 21:46 < Resonant> Indeed 21:46 < Resonant> I play it on mine all the time 21:48 < Benji_> pity there's no sound :( 21:49 < haxorninja> I know! 21:49 < haxorninja> anyone got a custom control configuration? 21:49 < haxorninja> or everyone using the default 21:49 < Benji_> can i see my ipod on windows explorer while ipod is in podzilla? 21:50 < Resonant> No, when you plug the ipod in under podzilla, it will ask you if you want to enter disk mode 21:50 < haxorninja> no i do not think 21:50 < Resonant> it will reboot into Apple firmware 21:50 < haxorninja> yeah Resonant knows whatsup 21:50 < Resonant> and poof 21:50 < Benji_> spazzium, where did u put the video file on ur nano? 21:50 < josh_> veteran: ping 21:50 < Resonant> You can put it anywhere on the root 21:51 < Resonant> such as X:\Movies 21:51 < spazzium> it doesn't matter where you put it 21:51 < Resonant> Then, when you reboot into podzill 21:51 < haxorninja> Can anyone tell me how to put a video onto my nano? 21:51 < spazzium> yeah. 21:51 < spazzium> copy it over. 21:51 < Resonant> open up the file browser and browse to /hp/Movies/ 21:51 < Benji_> http://ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 21:51 < haxorninja> Do I not have to convert anything? 21:51 < spazzium> yeah you do 21:51 < Benji_> check the link.. 21:52 < haxorninja> oh alright 21:52 < haxorninja> thanks 21:52 < haxorninja> and how do I exit iDoom 21:52 < haxorninja> besides a reboot 21:52 < spazzium> switch the hold button on, then back off 21:52 < spazzium> you should be able to figure it out from there 21:53 < haxorninja> ah thanks 21:53 < haxorninja> this is so WTFbadass 21:53 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:53 < Benji_> fucking A, it plays it fine :) 21:53 < haxorninja> so on that link, all I have to worry about it the conversion. The latest nightly has the video player right> 21:54 < Benji_> hmm. is it possible to adjust volume when playing videos or is always on the highest or the latest setting? 21:54 < haxorninja> ahh how do I use mencoder if there is a glitch with the Nano?! 21:54 < Benji_> yes it has 21:54 < Benji_> download mplayer 21:54 < haxorninja> to my ipod? 21:54 < Benji_> it includes mencoder 21:55 < Benji_> no to windows 21:55 < haxorninja> oh I see. And convert with mplayer? 21:55 < Benji_> then convert the video followed by instrcutions and copy it to ur ipod 21:55 < Resonant> You can convert it to raw with mencoder 21:55 < Resonant> which is part of mplayer 21:55 < Resonant> use it like 21:55 < Benji_> yep 21:55 < haxorninja> ffmpeg -vcodec rawvideo -acodec pcm_s16le -r 15 -i file.avi -s 220x176 -aspect 4:3 output.avi 21:55 < haxorninja> so if I install mplayer, and use that command 21:56 < Resonant> That works too 21:56 < haxorninja> am I good? 21:56 < haxorninja> ok 21:56 < Resonant> Er 21:56 < haxorninja> man i hope I do not wet myself before I get this on 21:56 < Resonant> You need ffmpeg, not mplayer 21:56 < Resonant> ffmpeg does not come with mplayer 21:56 < lBoxy> any build supports compressed video already? 21:56 < Resonant> No 21:56 < Resonant> Compressed video decoding would rape your battery. 21:56 < Resonant> and I mean 21:56 < Resonant> rape 21:56 < spazzium> ffmpeg does come with mplayer 21:56 < spazzium> ffmpeg is not a command, it's a library 21:56 < josh_> Resonant: no it wouldn't, it would just be waay too slow 21:57 < spazzium> the command is mencoder 21:57 < haxorninja> can't I just install mplayer from my repo's? 21:57 * Resonant bows down to josh_ 21:57 < josh_> spazzium: there's also a command called ffmpeg 21:57 < Resonant> Yea. 21:57 < Resonant> I was about to say 21:57 < Resonant> Jigga what? 21:57 < spazzium> oh 21:57 < spazzium> :) 21:57 < Benji_> josh_, but if it can decode mp3 then it shoud be able to decode a loose compressed video? 21:57 < josh_> Benji_: nope 21:57 < Resonant> haxorninja - if you are running under linux, why the hell not? 21:57 < josh_> it's very different 21:57 < haxorninja> good point Resonant 21:57 < josh_> video is a ton more data than audi 21:57 < josh_> *audio 21:57 < Resonant> if you are in debian do something like sudo apt-get install mplayer 21:58 < josh_> Benji_: the only reason the 5g can do it is because it has a whole extra processor just for video decoding 21:58 < Benji_> josh_, but video with such small resolution 21:58 < josh_> it's still a ton of data 21:58 < josh_> do the math 21:58 < josh_> 220 x 176 (resolution) x 2 (bytes per pixel) x 15 (frames per second) x 60 (seconds per minute) x number of minutes 21:58 < josh_> it comes out to a LOT 21:59 < Resonant> Indeed josh_ 21:59 < Resonant> but why not a loosely compressed codec? 21:59 < Resonant> something thats not horrbily super-uber compressed like wmv 22:00 < Resonant> which magically makes gigs of data just 500 megs. 22:00 < Resonant> er, loosely compressing codec, my grammar is the suck. 22:00 < Benji_> josh_, raw audio is 10meg/minute about and mp3 1meg/minut roughly 22:00 < Resonant> Right 22:00 < Resonant> Now 22:00 < Resonant> replace "audio" with "video" 22:00 < josh_> the thing is, there's just much more *stuff* to decompress every second 22:00 < josh_> with video 22:00 < Resonant> Right 22:01 < Benji_> ok 22:01 < Benji_> true there is audio + video 22:01 < josh_> compare 88100 bytes per second for audio with 1161600 bytes per second with video 22:01 < josh_> it's a big difference 22:01 < Benji_> on the other hand ipod can run doom engine realtime 22:01 < josh_> that doesn't mean anything 22:02 < spazzium> that's actually not comparable 22:02 < josh_> with regard to video compression 22:02 -!- ThomP [n=Thompuim@s559025d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 < ThomP> Hi 22:02 < Benji_> yes now when i think again i understand.. 22:02 < veteran> josh_, yep? 22:02 < josh_> veteran: check PM 22:03 < Benji_> so there won't be any video compression for nano in the future? 22:03 < josh_> the UIDs are weird on ipodlinux.org 22:03 < ThomP> Can i use the ipodlinux installer to install ipodlinux on the fourth generation iPod. 22:03 < josh_> Blipus: there might be something really simple like RLE, but probably nothing appreciable 22:04 < haxorninja> ok well mplayer is fucking up with my gcc compiler or something, so is there any easier way to convert a video to nano format? 22:04 < josh_> huh? 22:04 < Resonant> ThomP: Read the topic. 4G iPod is unsupported. 22:04 < ThomP> Ok 22:04 < Benji_> easier? :) 22:05 < haxorninja> I unzip the .tar.bz2 22:05 < haxorninja> and it works 22:05 < Resonant> haxorninja - Jigga what? 22:05 -!- ThomP [n=Thompuim@s559025d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 22:05 < haxorninja> then i ./configure 22:05 < josh_> why exactly are you building from source? 22:05 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-170-133.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["I'm offline now!"] 22:05 < Resonant> He is in linux 22:05 < Resonant> But 22:05 < Resonant> haxorninja, what distrobution are you running? 22:05 < haxorninja> Well I started all of this on Suse 10.0 ... I usually use slackware 22:06 < haxorninja> but I am on Suse 22:06 < haxorninja> right now 22:06 < Resonant> Ok 22:06 < Resonant> Hold on 22:06 < haxorninja> alright 22:06 < Resonant> http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/MPlayer.html?hl=com&cx=0:: 22:06 < Resonant> Control F 22:06 < Resonant> and type suse 22:06 < Resonant> and it will give you the section 22:07 < haxorninja> hot damn 22:07 < haxorninja> you are the reincarnation of the Christ figure 22:07 < Resonant> Haha 22:08 < haxorninja> wow 22:08 < haxorninja> long ass list of requirements 22:08 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-170-133.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:08 < haxorninja> are they included> 22:08 < Resonant> Yea 22:08 < Resonant> No 22:08 < Resonant> You have to get them 22:08 < haxorninja> haha oh god 22:08 < Resonant> Thats why Debian and Gentoo is great. 22:08 < Resonant> Dependency resolving is great. 22:09 < Resonant> Im sure there is also a thing you can do on SuSE though 22:09 < Benji_> is it possible that there will be a version of doom with sounds? 22:09 < Resonant> Unless you can modify the iDoom source to output through the iPod's sound output 22:09 < Resonant> No 22:10 < haxorninja> how in god's name am I supposed to download all of these dependencies 22:10 < haxorninja> this is not even worth it 22:10 < haxorninja> it is like 100 of them 22:10 < Benji_> can the podzilla play mp3? 22:11 < Benji_> hehe 22:11 < Benji_> i meant ogg 22:12 -!- disident [n=disident@lec67-4-82-235-56-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 -!- akaidiot [i=nope@c-731d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 < haxorninja> so I have to use mplayer? 22:13 < haxorninja> there has to be something else 22:13 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:14 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/hotdog/ (hotdog.h hotdog_font.c hotdog_font.h): Added a few font-loading functions. Nothing to draw 'em yet, though. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/733) 22:14 < haxorninja> guess that is a no 22:14 < haxorninja> hot damn 22:14 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcs232.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Success] 22:15 < haxorninja> I have an idea! go into my dual boot partition, download mplayer for windows 22:15 < haxorninja> and do that 22:15 < haxorninja> hmm doubt this will work 22:15 < haxorninja> but we shall see 22:15 < josh_> it'll only work if you reboot into windows... 22:16 < haxorninja> so mplayer on linux is pretty m uch it 22:16 < haxorninja> much* 22:16 < haxorninja> can I use real player? 22:16 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 < haxorninja> damn none of you answer if I ask about something other than using mplayer 22:19 < haxorninja> I guess that means I have to use it 22:20 < imphasing> It rocks, so use it. 22:20 < imphasing> =/ 22:21 < haxorninja> but 22:21 -!- goblenk [n=no@dslb-084-060-199-231.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:21 < haxorninja> so 22:21 < haxorninja> many 22:21 < haxorninja> dependencies 22:21 < haxorninja> it will take me an entie day for it 22:23 < Benji_> how can i play ogg's on my nano? 22:25 -!- domr [n=domr@81-86-156-68.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < Benji_> i guess i can't yet.. 22:34 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:40 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:42 -!- Benji_ [i=Dksar@dsl-hkigw7-fe15f900-1.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:42 -!- domr [n=domr@81-86-156-68.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Quit"] 22:43 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:43 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:43 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 22:44 < BHSPitMonkey> hello 22:44 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:46 < BHSPitMonkey> top of the evening to you, josh_ 22:47 < josh_> top of the afternoon to you, BHSPitMonkey 22:47 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm tinkering with chopper's code :) 22:47 < BHSPitMonkey> I actually have a ttk question... 22:48 < josh_> ask away 22:48 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm trying to change chopper from using predefined colors to getting them from the scheme 22:48 < BHSPitMonkey> I've come to the conclusion that ttk_ap_get is the function for this (?) 22:49 < josh_> if you just want the color, ttk_ap_getx("prop")->color 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> i didn't have the "x" 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> :/ 22:49 < josh_> if you're drawing a rectangle with it, use ttk_ap_[fill]rect (srf, ttk_ap_get("prop"), x1, y1, x2, y2) 22:49 < josh_> the "x" means it'll return a dummy structure instead of NULL if the prop isn't defined 22:50 < BHSPitMonkey> ah.... 22:50 < BHSPitMonkey> i'll try 22:52 < BHSPitMonkey> "button.selected.bg" is a correct reference of a prop, right? 22:53 < josh_> yep 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> cBackground=ttk_ap_getx("button.selected.bg")->color; sounds right then? 22:53 < josh_> yep 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> :/ 22:53 < josh_> why? 22:54 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:54 < BHSPitMonkey> maybe I'm not commenting out the old color statement correctly 22:55 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:56 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 < BHSPitMonkey> how can it be using the original color there? I've completely removed it and replaced with the ttk_ap_get :/ 22:58 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> the original line was " cBackground=ttk_makecol(145,197,255); " 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> I've replaced it with what I said before 22:59 < BHSPitMonkey> oohhh, wait... 23:00 < BHSPitMonkey> it IS working, but it doesn't reflect a scheme change unless I restart podzilla... well, I guess that's good 23:00 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 23:00 < josh_> that's what ttk_epoch is for 23:01 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:01 < josh_> in your draw function, check if ttk_epoch > this->win->epoch; if so, reload your colors. 23:01 -!- disident [n=disident@lec67-4-82-235-56-34.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:01 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm 23:09 < BHSPitMonkey> can you think of better suited existing props for a sky and terrain to use? (currently getting the colors from 'button') 23:11 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-218-130.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodLinux 23:14 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: not really, and "button" definitely doesn't fit that well. 23:14 < BHSPitMonkey> well 23:14 < BHSPitMonkey> i needed values that contrast 23:14 < BHSPitMonkey> these work, but... meh. 23:15 < BHSPitMonkey> I hate to come up with reasons to inflate scheme files 23:16 < BHSPitMonkey> but perhaps the need for a game prop section will arise... 23:22 < davidc__> imphasing: awesome comment :P 23:23 < BHSPitMonkey> davidc__: awesome khakis! 23:23 < davidc__> umm. 23:23 < davidc__> right 23:23 -!- BHSPitMonkey was kicked from #ipodlinux by davidc__ [insanity] 23:23 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:24 < BHSPitMonkey> thanks for giving me the novel again! 23:27 < BHSPitMonkey> is something wrong with the cvs 23:32 < davidc__> knowing sourceforge - probably 23:35 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: get a chance to look at podium yet? 23:36 < josh_> nope, sorry 23:36 < BHSPitMonkey> kay 23:39 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 -!- iNT0XiC8D [n=iNT0XiC8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:43 < BHSPitMonkey> loader2 is still stopping after one line... 23:46 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 23:46 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:48 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: for you too? 23:48 < spazzium> I was gonna wait another month before trying loader2 again 23:48 < BHSPitMonkey> it USED to be my primary bootloader for at least a month 23:49 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:49 < BHSPitMonkey> for a long time it's been acting this way, and last night I rm'd my working image. 23:52 < spazzium> oops 23:58 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah. 23:58 < BHSPitMonkey> I just flashed the rockbox bootloader 23:58 < BHSPitMonkey> it's supposed to triple-boot --- Log closed Sun Jan 22 00:00:00 2006